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NML-Capital offers to pay for repatriation of ARA Libertad crew members
In a PR stunt the US fund NML-Capital offered to fly back free of charge all crew members of the Argentine training frigate ARA Libertad retained in Ghana, but reiterated that to release the vessel Argentina must deposit a 20million dollars bail. Read full article
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Oct 20th, 2012 - 06:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Send for Tango One...
No way the crew goes with the boat they didn't stand up to defend it, keep them all including the captain. They are useless, talking about loosing your ship without a shot shot be considered treason and punished by execution. Ans don't forget to get a receipt for the 20.000.000.00$ dollar the vulture originally demanded for ransom.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 06:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina only gets credit for what the ship fetches at auction, minus costs incurred...
Oct 20th, 2012 - 07:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Crew...
NML are doing the decent, humanitarian thing and paying to fly them home - this is a problem created by the CFK government.
Pirat-ALEX VARGAS, You're not much on being a humanitarian, are you?
- you don't care about these kids that were abandoned by their government
- you want to wipe out an entire peaceful island population, and take their homes
- you support a Dictator, CFK, who says her people should feed themselves on 6 pesos per day
- you support Gaddaffy, a Dictator who sponsored state terrorism against civilian men women and children by bombing their plane, and other acts
- you support Gaddaffy murdering his own people with the army, and hired mercenaries to harrass the refugees fleeing their homes.
- you want a nuke program to inflict heavy loss of life and suffering on civilian populations
- what other destruction of society do you wish upon the world??
- What do you think of Syria murdering, torturing, and shelling their own civilians??
- did you know that Mao killed more Chinese than the Japanese did in WWII ??
and you commit petty crimes against your neighbours and hosts in Canada, where you live in comfort, counselling violence and death against people in other countries!!
You are NO humanist, just an angry child.
It's no surprise that you are “not big on Christmas”
A fine humanitarian gesture.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 07:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0the govt. of Argentina are getting their arses handed to them in the PR stakes, nice move.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 07:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0The in flight movie, The Sea Chase, starring John WAYNE.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 08:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yellowbeard?
Oct 20th, 2012 - 08:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0The cruel sea would be better and they might even spot some of their navy ships in it.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 08:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0What about the Battle of the River Plate for the inflight movie?
Oct 20th, 2012 - 09:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0A stirring real life story of 3 outgunned and outranged RN vessels taking on the German Battleship Graff Spee off the River Plate in 1940.
It'll be nice for the cadets to see how real sailors work together under extreme conditions.
My favourite line from the Commodore to HMS Exeter which has been badly damaged in the encounter.
Commodore to Exeter's Captain, “Can you make it to the Falkland Islands to effect repairs?”
Exeter's Captain to Commodore, “Can make it to Plymouth, if ordered to do so.”
Yup, we'll done Exeter, Achillies and Ajax.
However back to the thread. Yup NML have pulled a blinder of a PR stunt here. We are not an unfeeling, in human vulture fund. We care about people and will even pay for these people to get home.
In fact the only thing keeping these guys there is CFKs misplaced pride.
Yes, it is playing the diplomatic game well. Highlighting that this is nothing against the Argentine people personally, it is purely business. CFKC's government owes the money and should pay it. They know it, the courts confirm it and now the world knows it.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sadly, CFKC is too mentally challenged to realise the long-term consequences of this. She wants the shiny toy back and cannot see that she is demonstrating to everyone that investing in Argentina would be throwing money away. Stupid, stupid woman.
Elain, The Ks have never played the long game. Diplomatically and economically, they have took the shortest most expedient way to get out of the day's problems rather than looking ahead and doing the right thing.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Cfk is off her rocker, the whole world knows it and the whole world knows Argentina is a deadbeat and a scofflaw.
FDI is gone for as long as she is ruling and maybe a lot longer than that,
Their economy doesn't' generate enough trade to pay for the standard of living they have been accustomed to stealing.
Reality is intruding on their mass delusions and it is going to get really bad there rather quickly.
USA is counting on Brazil to contain the coming economic and political melt down but I wonder if they will step up?
I am betting by the mid part of next year we will see a different groupspeak from the Rg posters.
We shall see.
@11 None of the K supporters posting on this site live or work in Buenos Aires where the effects are being acutely felt. It is a rabble of Argentines living abroad, searching for a better life, or living in remote places, or living at home having achieved nothing in life.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0When I speak to friends in Buenos Aires - even K supporters - they are nervous and annoyed about the state of their country and the future.
I cannot imagine Argentina surrendering the ship. I cannot imagine the commanding officers releassing the majority of their crew. (naval custom would normally be to offer release from assignment non-Argentinians as well as any infirm. However, I still cannot imagine Argentina simply paying (through a third party) the 20m bond. Elaine, you are quite right, she's stupid, stupid and more stupid...
Oct 20th, 2012 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 012. My friends and family are not nervous, they are panicked! They can't travel, there are no jobs, their salaries aren't going up and nobody is buying anything.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0I cannot imagine Argentina surrendering the ship. I cannot imagine the commanding officers releassing the majority of their crew. (naval custom would normally be to offer release from assignment non-Argentinians as well as any infirm. However, I still cannot imagine Argentina simply paying (through a third party) the@ 20m bond. Elaine, you are quite right, she's stupid, stupid and more stupid...
Oct 20th, 2012 - 11:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0TWIMC
Oct 20th, 2012 - 12:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The sky may fall on out heads tomorrow.....
But tomorrow never comes......
Chief Vitalstatistix.....
Were you saying the same in 2002 or did you escape back to Europe and wait it out on the refugee dole?
Oct 20th, 2012 - 12:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Have you been to Argentina since the 70s?
I doubt it.
apparently the crew were scared about flying over the south atlantic back to argentina and demanded inflight parachutes and not one requested a seat by the door, cant possibly think why:)
Oct 20th, 2012 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@11
Oct 20th, 2012 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Different group speak? Argentina has been anti-American for 100 years, anti-British for 70 years, anti-European for 10-15 years, and anti-Chinese for 4 years. And the anti-___ will only increase. We can't stand any of you as you are not worthy societies in almost any respect.
@12
Those are some mighty claims there. Why don't you prove them? Oh that's right, that famous British mentality I adduced to in the other article, which makes your society so putrid.
So if I say you are a meretricious Colombian woman-entrepeneur dabbling in the world of international diplomacy, how do you disprove what I just said?
Though I'm guessing you thought this was a complement.
No need to worry, as Max has used his connections to charter a modern Tupolev 154 to bring the crew back to BA.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh Toby er ah Georgy, You have so much hate, seems like you hate most of the world. So what countries does a Frontier ( almost lost that designation tho) country look up to and admire? Bolivia? Paraguay? Or the human rights paragons of (axis of evil as we call them) of Cuba/Venezuela/Syria/Iran?
Oct 20th, 2012 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think I know the answer.
what sad sad creatures Rgs are...
@21
Oct 20th, 2012 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, what choice do we have? Your country certainly is not an option, culturally, human rights wise, and no longer economically, so...
Don't get mad at the messenger if your country is sliding on all fronts.
22. Still better than any other place out there though.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You know I was thinking about something you posted awhile ago about how great Mendoza was doing, new highways, dams blah blah blah and I thought gosh I don't know any new dams or highways where I live. Then I thought it is because they just happen, they aren't newsworthy, nobody pays any attention. A new dam? good gracious is this the 1800s?
How embarrassing.
Sad part is though Argentina won't be able to fund anything new for a long long time after losing WB and IDB loans. A LONG LONG TIME. You'll probably be retired or dead before you see a new road or dam again.
@23
Oct 20th, 2012 - 02:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You see little loser, in my part of the world we use dams for hydro, as Argentina being an environmental healthy country uses this type of energy more than almost all other countries.
Not only can they produce power, but Mendoza is a semi-desert (I know the city with the million trees belies that fact), so any new dam is another safeguard in drought years. So of course new dams here are a big story.
Compare that to US dams, which as you said correctly, were built in the 1800s, and not been REPAIRED SINCE. Did you know there have been more dam failures in the USA in the last 25 years than in the prior 200 combined? Do you know 30% of your bridges are technically fit for closure from traffic because of disrepair? Do you know they are converting paved roads to gravel in 40 states because they can't afford to repave them? Do you want me to bring that article?
I'd say it is more embarrasing to be in the state given what you claim to be. Which more and more is legends of your own minds.
No I didn't...do you know why? It isn't newsworthy and nobody cares because it just gets taken care of.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I would think we probably over paved a bunch of roads that never should have been in the first place. Sometimes gravel is better, environmentally safer as you might say, easier to maintain or something.
I don't really know and again it is not something we think about because we did all of that 50 or 100 yrs ago. Now it just being maintained.
I have been all over the world and have not seen better yet.
all this distraction talk and still argentina cannot get back their flagship vessel.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 02:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@25
Oct 20th, 2012 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Whatever floats your boat. If you think that of your country fine. But don't come insult my country.
And go ask Californians if a new dam or a new waterway is not “big news”. Perhaps you live in an area with plentiful rainwater, but in any desert, semidesert, or rain-shadow region (Mendoza is the latter), they are big news.
Funny, maybe if you had a few more dams in the USA central region... you would still have a corn crop. Oops, too bad.
(20) Chicureo
Oct 20th, 2012 - 02:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Baaaaad choice.....
As we all know, the Tu-154 has a max. range of ~6,500 km.
As we all know, the dist. from ACC to BUE is ~7,500 km.....
I would strongly reccomend an Ilyushin-96...
27. Corn Crop...again nothing the avg American concerns themselves with, Farmers have insurance and market protections, so they're fine one or two yrs of drought and no one even notices.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think they care in Mexico about the price of corn, probably in your filthy backward country too but not here. We just go on and nobody notices any difference in their lives.
That's the difference in a developed country and and undeveloped country.
BTW I think they need some water management in BA province I hear 1/3 of the farmland is under water.
I also hear due to CFKs terrible policies they expect 17% less wheat crop this year. I don't think that is enough for any exports...
Do you like barley bread?
I hear it is tasty!
@29
Oct 20th, 2012 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hahaha, “market protections”, which have cost you 130 billion in 10 years directly, and over 400-500 billion in overpaying especially for “ethanol” from corn.
You don't notice huh? That's partly why you are on the edge of fiscal annihilation. Enjoy it.
Barley bread? Wheat is plentiful and cheap, everyone can get it. No problems.
It's cheap because there are price caps, what happens when there are price caps? Bare Shelves and Black markets.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Better stock up,
I don't believe in using food for energy it is bad policy and immoral. Pretty sure it will be fixed soon though. But I didn't feel it. I can travel anywhere I want and anytime I want. Can you?
Yes. In fact I'm planning at trip to Slovenia, Lombardy, and Galicia soon.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bahahahaa sure.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0loser
If that makes you feel better, I'll enjoy learning about those cultures. I'll forget they are European, for that time.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 028 I don't Think aka The Turnip In Chief
Oct 20th, 2012 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think Chicureo knows full well the range of the plane and the trip distance.
As usual you miss the point.
BTW @16 you wrote:
“The sky may fall on out (Sic: our) heads tomorrow” English 102
Just another little error was it?
Little turnip.
As usual you miss the point.
I heard you can see and experience every culture in the world in just a few hours drive from Mendoza. Why bother ever leaving paradise?
Oct 20th, 2012 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bahahahaha
p a t h e t i c
NML is a scumbag vulture fund that uses the Cayman Islands to avoid legal and tax issues (“a [tax haven] that has been denounced by the G20 and the UN”). 93% of all bond holders have accepted Argentina's repayment terms, but not the crybabies at NML. Thy don't want to pay taxes but they want the courts to help them when they get in a bind.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 05:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@37 - Tompaine
Oct 20th, 2012 - 05:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And what then is Argentina?
A country who borrowed money, promising to pay it back, then refuses. That's stealing. So NML try to recoup some of their loses from Argentina by sending in the bailiffs.
Argentina is an unremitting debtor, who had flouted international law and just plain common decency to repay money that was loaned to them in good faith.
Argentina needs to accept that this situation was brought about by YOUR government. The same government that REFUSES to accept ANY responsibility for its actions. It's always someone else's fault, isn't it? In this case NML and Ghana's.
Well Argentina shouldn't have borrowed the money if it couldn't pay it back.
You have sown the wind, now reap the whirlwind.
July 7, 2005 was a legitimate response to Iraq.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0NML investors should lose their money. I don't know of one American who didn't lose money in the great Republican depression of 2008. Stockholders at GM and people who lost their ass on a mortgage brought on by scum bankers and vultures like NML. Loaning money to people who absolutely could not afford to buy a home. Bankers bundled the bad debt with good debt and got rating companies to rate these investments as triple A. These types of investors have almost brought the entire world to its knees.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0interesting to see where NML strike next. Where are the vulnerable assets? YPF cannot operate in isolation so perhaps rich pickings there...
Oct 20th, 2012 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The bad publicity is a big deal, not confidence inspiring for any organisation interested in investing in Argentina.
@39 - Tobias
Oct 20th, 2012 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So you support terrorists now eh? Cowards that they are and you're a coward too for supporting them.
In a democracy we accept responsibility for our governments actions, but we are not cowards.
Did you see the news reels in July 8th 2005? If you did you would've seen Londoners walking around with t-shirts on bearing the message: “still not scared.”
You really are pathetic Tobias and obviously have no valid arguments to support your position, since all you can do is bring in an attack by cowards and try to divert the thread (very poor job you're doing too).
Tell me, Tobias, just what did the people of Bali or their government do to deserve to be attacked by terrorists?
Or the people of Madrid?
Or even the people of Argentina when the Iranians set off bombs in your capital city?
Or the people of New York?
Only cowards attack this way, too afraid to stand up a face their enemies like men. To cowardly to try and change things politically by getting the people to vote them into power, and changing things that way. No they can only threaten to kill unarmed defenceless people, just like your military junta did. Do you think the junta were heroes for using terror tactics against Argentine citizens?
Why your mother must be so proud of you Tobias.
However, nothing you have said removes Argentina's obligation to pay off its debts, does it.
So Tobias, you'd better break into your money bank if you want your ship back, because the longer you delay that more expensive it will become.
39 Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos
Oct 20th, 2012 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0July 7, 2005 was a legitimate response to Iraq.
You are the lowest of the low. LEPRecon at 42 is wrong. You don't even have a mother do you? 'cos your dad s**t you from his a*shole didn't he?? You pathetic scum.
The only reason that Argentina hasn't been attacked by terrorists yet is because they don't have to, the Argentine government is doing their job very nicely for them.
42 LEPRecon
Nice post. Couldn't have said it better myself.
@36
Oct 20th, 2012 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pathetic is this:
“Father dies in front of children's eyes from bullets he took to save them; 4-yo son also dies, gunman then sets neighborhood on fire, dozens evacuated, dozens more locked in fear within homes”
http://www.ksee24.com/news/local/Father-Dies-Shielding-Children-From-Gunman-Who-Set-Home-Ablaze-175078901.html
Gets only a few sentences in a backwater local channel. Amerika the Wonderful.
ahahahahaha.... what a joke.
That is VERY nice of NML-Capital.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 2 Pirat-Hunter
Oct 20th, 2012 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“the crew goes with the boat they didn't stand up to defend it, keep them all including the captain. They are useless, talking about loosing your ship without a shot”
Perhaps you should got to Ghana and fight for the ship, great hero.
It seems that Pirat-Hunter, hopefully alone among the 7 000 000 000 people in the world, suggests that one should take up armed fight against a court, which rules in accordance with international and national laws.
@8 Vectis (#)
Oct 20th, 2012 - 11:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oct 20th, 2012 - 08:56 am
Not without a bathyscope.
@44 - you think the the USA is the only country that has terrible crimes happening - why don't you look at the news in Argentina PELOTUDO!
Oct 21st, 2012 - 12:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Here I will give you just a FEW sad stories all happened in the last 24 months and getting worse every day:
Candela a young 11 year old girl, murdered and found in a plastic bag in an empty lot:
http://www.larepublica.pe/31-08-2011/conmocion-en-argentina-nina-candela-aparecio-muerta
Young 17 year old boy, Matías Berardi, kidnapped, held for ransom and murdered when he tried to escape:
http://www.larepublica.pe/31-08-2011/conmocion-en-argentina-nina-candela-aparecio-muerta
Garbage collector shot and killed when he tried to block a thief's car from escaping:
http://www.larepublica.pe/31-08-2011/conmocion-en-argentina-nina-candela-aparecio-muerta
2 young girls from France murdered in the Salta province and 1 French tourist killed for his camera at 8:00 in the morning in the center of Buenos Aires (this website of course is blocked from access in Argentina)
http://www.larepublica.pe/31-08-2011/conmocion-en-argentina-nina-candela-aparecio-muerta
In Argentina this gesture was taken very badly for teh paublic opinion. Increasing contempt and to NML and Mr. Singer.
Oct 21st, 2012 - 03:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0If someone didn'y what a VULTURE found was, well now they know and it has a the face of Mister singer on it and they now that he has the backup of the USA and teh UK!
Cheers!
What kind of a crapshit navy has it's flagship taken by a friendly country and does nothing about it, BECAUSE IT HAS NO FUEL.
Oct 21st, 2012 - 09:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Seriously, Shit navy is seriously shit.
44 Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos
Oct 21st, 2012 - 09:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0From a gunman!!!! You really are a weapons grade idiot arn't you?
He was saving his children from a gunman!!! NOT his own GOVERNMENT!!! why am I not supprised that you could not tell the difference?
@50
Oct 21st, 2012 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hey, who invades countries by mistake? Now that is the shittiest navy of them all. The UK's, besides the fact you are a moral joke of a country, especially since 2003.
So I'd suggest you no longer open your mouth, your country has not a penny, has record deficits and will be gone by 2015. That is the real joke. I would be utterly embarassed to live in a country which can't balance a budget (ever), and has major constituents about to vote on independence.
Quite embarassing.
52 Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos
Oct 21st, 2012 - 04:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh dear Giorgio!! This is worse than I first thought!!
What you have posted there is a textbook case of “Projection” your outrage about what other people are say is your own release for the failure of your government and your country.
The thought that THE WHOLE WORLD holds Argentina in contempt and your government is the laughing stock of the UN is too much for you. what we have here Ladies and Gentlemen is a case of show and tell:-
Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos thinks he is telling us all but actually he is showing us everything. Take the phrase:-
”your country has not a penny, has record deficits and will be gone by 2015. That is the real joke. I would be utterly embarassed to live in a country which can't balance a budget (ever)“
I think that this one phrase alone tells us about the mindset of the poster. All the hate that he feels towards how Argentina is staring international ruin in the face. All you have to do is substitute the word ”YOUR“ for the word ”MY” and it tells us everything about how he feels.
He doesn't deserve to be laughed at. No, he needs counciling for his inability to connect with real people. You see, he is using this forum as a kind of therapy for his misplaced rage and impotence, attacking people for what he sees as their malice towards him but is in fact his own shortcoming.
You need to workshop those emotions Giorgio, I mean really get to the bottom of your soul and find out who the reall Giorgio is. Otherwise, you are a headline just waiting to happen.
@ 53 Isolde Miedosa y asquerosa!
Oct 21st, 2012 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0callate.....stupida mujer!
Argentina is the winner....
@53
Oct 21st, 2012 - 09:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't retire to engage solely in your attempts at physiognomy. You will die of thirst (not even hunger).
But you could take a crack at reading your fellow countryment, who by the dozen come here to insult my country, and thoroughly lie about it. What does that tell you?
I won't wait for an answer, I'm sure you will cravenly ignore it.
@53 Isolde
Oct 21st, 2012 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0y ahora que vas a decir?
No thanks We will keep the crew on the ship until the international courts decide, the vulture and Ghana should have thought of it before seeking for ransom, this exercise should be good training for the crew because in case of war being hostages would be much like this, except they can't go home whenever they want, I think this navy officers should use this opportunity to sharpen their endurance skills, it is all part of the training.
Oct 22nd, 2012 - 08:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0#48 in Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, syria and egypt the UK and USA rapes and murder Muslim women and children every day, I guess no one pays you to speak for Muslims.
We the Argentine people will like to thanks the UK and USA civilians for their comments and support but we much rather ask you solve your own problems in you respective countries and let us solve ours, we think the murdering of innocent Muslim women and children deserve much much more attention then asking Argentina for ransom.
Argentina shouldn't pay ransom for the relic ship, let ghana keep it hostage until the end of the international ruling.
Mean time check out what happened to the vulture fund money.
http://www.gregpalast.com/the-globalizer-who-came-in-from-the-cold/
http://www.gregpalast.com/the-globalizer-who-came-in-from-the-cold/
http://www.gregpalast.com/the-globalizer-who-came-in-from-the-cold/
To Pirate Hunter
Oct 22nd, 2012 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0“No way the crew goes with the boat they didn't stand up to defend it, keep them all including the captain. They are useless, talking about loosing your ship without a shot shot be considered treason and punished by execution.”
So according to Pirate Hunter the half a million british troops that surrendered to the japs without firing a shot commited treason and should have been executed.
55 Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos
Oct 22nd, 2012 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh dear Giorgio, Who do you think is against you?
“But you could take a crack at reading your fellow countryment, who by the dozen come here to insult my country, and thoroughly lie about it. What does that tell you?”
Look, if we are going to get anywhere, who have to let go of this paranoid delusion. The whole world is not out to get you. They are merely pointing out the error of KFC's / ol' turkey neck / TMBOA's ways.
They are trying to warn you of the coming storm. So the best way forward for you is to recognise this and accept that there is more than one point of view in this world. Just because you don't agree with what they say does not make them wrong.
Now.............. what is your favorite animal and why?
@57 Alex Vargas
Oct 22nd, 2012 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I think this navy officers should use this opportunity to sharpen their endurance skills, it is all part of the training.”
Laughable - Argentina's government breaks a financial agreement and sends it ship to a foreign port, where it is impounded.
Pirat - Alex blames the crew, calling them “treasonous”.
He wants the death of his own countrymen!!
@57 Alex Vargass
“#48 in Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, syria and egypt the UK and USA rapes and murder Muslim women and children every day, I guess no one pays you to speak for Muslims. ”
You know nothing of world affairs except what you want to hear in the anti-West press.
How many Muslim women are raped tortured and beaten by your friends, the Taliban in Afganistan, and Islamist fundamentalists in Iran and Libya???
BTW, your Facebook is full of pictures of Taliban snipers killing afghan civilians and Canadian soldiers, alike!
Egypt was an uprising by their own people ( as was Libya, with the people begging for help from outside).
Your Facebook pictures show your support for Dictator Ghadaffy's regime, while he was murdering his own people!
The UK or USA has NOTHING TO DO WITH SYRIA !!!
CHINA and RUSSIA are using their veto at the UN to prevent US/IL/NATO from stopping the Syrian armed forces from shelling civilians and murdering them in their homes ( yes, women and children, too), yet you condemn the West and support the Dictator, and the RUSSIANS who are selling them arms!!
ALEX , you do NOT have any moral high ground.
You simply, jealously HATE !
@57 Alex Vargas
“We the Argentine people will like to thanks the UK and USA civilians for their comments and support but we much rather ask you solve your own problems in you respective countries and let us solve ours,”
You are not Argentine anymore, just a coward in Canada!
Answer this post and explain your reasoning.
No, you are a coward and you know how weak your position is.
You will find an excuse not to reply...
@ 60 Troy Tempest
Oct 22nd, 2012 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Alex Varga is a big hero....I changed my mind!
@61TTT
Oct 22nd, 2012 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Alex Varga is a big hero....I changed my mind!”
I can imagine that he must seem very compelling to you.
Does he qualify to join you lot at La Campora, now??
I have never felt that he was one of your members - seems to be brigand with no alliance to anyone - and too much of a loose cannon for professionals...
#10 “this is nothing against the Argentine people personally, it is purely business”
Oct 29th, 2012 - 11:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just business. As the human trafficker said to Liam Neeson in Taken, when trying to have him killed to protect the sale of his daughter...
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