Thursday, October 25th 2012 - 06:28 UTC

Argentine seamen are back in Buenos Aires; small group remains in Ghana

After three weeks retained in Ghana, members of the crew and cadets from the Argentine Navy training vessel ARA Libertad arrived past midnight Wednesday to Ezeiza airport in Buenos Aires where relatives and media were waiting.

Relatives and media received the stranded seamen (Photo: Clarin)

The specially chartered Air France Boeing 777 left Ghana mid afternoon with 279 seamen, of which “a fraction are crew members of the training vessel plus all cadets from the Navy and Army schools and all national and international guests”, said a brief release from the Argentine Navy.

Stranded for three weeks because the vessel was impounded by NML Capital, which demands payment of Argentine sovereign bonds, the seamen left the port of Tema for the airport of Kokota in nine buses heavily escorted while 44 crewmembers and the captain remain for the maintenance of the flagship of the Argentine navy.

The Navy said that following medical check-up the cadets can join their families and must return by Monday November 5 to complete their training for the graduation ceremony scheduled 8 December.

The group flown back also includes naval cadets from Brazil, Chile, Ecuador, Paraguay, Uruguay and Venezuela. Two of the Chileans (one of them was injured) out of a crew of 15, arrived in Santiago Wednesday midday. They were received by Defence minister Andres Allamand.

“We were always convinced we would sail; we kept waiting for the day to leave the port”, said the Chilean cadets who added that “people in Ghana are very friendly and were kind with us”.

Meantime the Argentine government continues with its diplomatic lobbying and legal battle with NML-Capital, a battle which so far it has been losing.

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1 stick up your junta (#) Oct 25th, 2012 - 06:59 am Report abuse
The specially chartered Air France Boeing 777 left Ghana mid afternoon

See they didnt want to risk their own airline, fecking deadbeats :-)))))))
2 Santa Fe (#) Oct 25th, 2012 - 07:12 am Report abuse
better send it straight back for the crew of the tub of a corvette soon to be impounded in SA
3 Trunce (#) Oct 25th, 2012 - 07:16 am Report abuse
“The specially chartered Air France Boeing 777 left Ghana mid afternoon”

Paid for in advance, one hopes....
4 LEPRecon (#) Oct 25th, 2012 - 07:45 am Report abuse
There seems to be a lot of crying, I wonder why?

I mean it's not like they've just got back from war or been in any kind of dangerous situation, is it?

Or is it just relief that the Argentine government didn't abandon the crew along with the ship?
5 Usurping Pirate (#) Oct 25th, 2012 - 07:55 am Report abuse
A historical first .
The first time the order “ Abandon ship ! ” has been given on a perfectly maintained vessel moored in harbour .
6 Boovis (#) Oct 25th, 2012 - 08:05 am Report abuse
CFK said they can keep the ship but can't take, our freedommmmm etc etc like the dolt she is, but if she thought she was in the right, she wouldn't even say they can take anything, but say how many laws, if any, are being broken by this and taking it to court. She has no leg to stand on and knows she's in the wrong. Arrogant and proud to the last, she's a dick of the highest order.
7 Britworker (#) Oct 25th, 2012 - 08:29 am Report abuse
Sorry, what is with the crying, have I missed something? Was there a war I didn't hear about?
A battle that Argentina is losing, do they know any other kind of battle?
8 lsolde (#) Oct 25th, 2012 - 08:58 am Report abuse
Latin melo-dramatics, hysteria rules♥
9 Idlehands (#) Oct 25th, 2012 - 09:10 am Report abuse
5 Usurping Pirate

A very astute and comical observation.
10 briton (#) Oct 25th, 2012 - 10:13 am Report abuse
Whose that coming over the hill,
It’s an argie, it’s an arrrgie.
Let’s welcome them home,
Let’s have a party, let’s have a parrrty.

CFK is arranging a speech
Is it a victory, is it a victooory.

Ha ha .

11 Idlehands (#) Oct 25th, 2012 - 10:20 am Report abuse
Did they leave a crew on board “for maintenance” or was it to hamper efforts to sell the ship?

”For sale - one frigate, elderly but nicely maintained. Full heating and galley facilities. One small but very pissed off Argentine crew. $500 o.n.o.
12 ElaineB (#) Oct 25th, 2012 - 10:27 am Report abuse
In Chile the Navy have huge respect from the public. I am sure the Chilean cadets were embarrassed by the incident and it is good to see how respectfully they have been treated by their own government.

I doubt the Argentine seamen will be treated with such respect. They might be used for political purposes but we have already seen on this forum that they are being painted as 'privileged' and 'enjoying an expensive cruise' by CFKC supporters.
13 Vectis (#) Oct 25th, 2012 - 10:56 am Report abuse
@7 yes there was a war it was the battle of Tema fought by the warship ARA Libertad and her brave crew, out numbered and out gunned they fought the law and the law one. 279 seamen escaped leaving some crew to fight a rear action (sounds gay) .This Victory(copy write Royal Navy, also see proper flagship) will never be written in world history but will be Argentina history adapted and altered for CFK as she see's fit.

Depending on how the crew respond to CFK they will either be paraded on TV as victims of the vulture fund or enjoy a ride up in a C-130 for a trip to davey jones locker
14 LEPRecon (#) Oct 25th, 2012 - 11:36 am Report abuse
@11 - Idlehands

Well the way things are going the Ghanaian courts will just tell NML to take the ship and go. The crew will be ordered to leave. If they refuse they'll be arrested, and if necessary, forcibly removed.

The Captain of the ARA Libertad seems to be an honourable man who cares for the sailors under his command, so I expect that he'll go quitely to protect his crew from injury and prosecution.
15 ManRod (#) Oct 25th, 2012 - 11:37 am Report abuse
Since Argentina has taken over Aerolineas Argentinas, shouldn't it also be able to confiscate their planes on international routes?
16 Hook (#) Oct 25th, 2012 - 11:54 am Report abuse
the losers are back in home, in Looser Landia. I wonder how does it feel to be a loser? ..difficult to imagine
17 LEPRecon (#) Oct 25th, 2012 - 01:41 pm Report abuse
I wonder if the Argentine government will label this as the Battle of Tema Port?

No doubt the 'offical' story will be that the crew put up a brave defence of the ship from the Ghanaian 'savages', who finally over-whelmed them and threw them all in the black hole of Calcutta er I mean Tema.

The crew then bravely escaped, and the Captain and 44 'volunteers' stayed behind to take the ship back. Unable to escape, the Captain bravely scuttled the ship to protect from the forces of Dr Evil.

Hey, I'm pretty good at this. I wonder if CFK would offer me a job? However, I only work for dollars, and I want paying up front!

However, it really does lack the suspense, action, drama and truth of the Battle of the Rive Plate.
18 Conqueror (#) Oct 25th, 2012 - 01:42 pm Report abuse
Daddy, daddy, daddy, did you get chased by a tiger? No, dear, we didn't go to the zoo. El Presidente said something about vultures, but we didn't see any of them either. But we were getting really worried because we didn't have any oars!
19 Captain Poppy (#) Oct 25th, 2012 - 01:44 pm Report abuse
I do not think one has to go away to war for a spouse to cry upon the other's return. The shear separation and return brings tears. I understand that the Brits absolutely hate everything Argentine because they had a 74 day war, but is anything off limits? Are the children just nits that grow into lice to the Brits? Stick to the real enemy crustina kirchner
20 Acchiappaladri (#) Oct 25th, 2012 - 01:59 pm Report abuse
@11 Idlehands
Too easy bet ;-)
#2 of course!

@14 LEPRecon
seriuosly, that is more or less what is going to happen.
They, that gang of Ladroprogresista huevones, will drag their feet, they will “break balls” (literal translation of what we use to say in my language) as much as they can.
ASAP I will tell you a very fresh horror story from ICSID !! :-(

@ ChrisR
I owe you a thankful reply ... more asap.
21 ElaineB (#) Oct 25th, 2012 - 02:12 pm Report abuse
The Ghanaian courts are to hear a request from the port authority to move the ship as it is blocking a prime dock needed immediately. I suspect their request will be granted as there is no need for the local economy to suffer the sins of CFKC.

@19 I am sure the Argentine seamen are frustrated and a little bit humiliated by this whole episode. They were hosting crew from several countries and the ship was impounded. Ouch. They have my full sympathy as this is not their fault in any way. They have also seen CFKC blame everyone but herself and they must be nervous about further reprisals. They didn't sign up for this.
22 LEPRecon (#) Oct 25th, 2012 - 02:14 pm Report abuse
@19 - Captain Poppy

Well maybe it's just our stiff upper lips, but I doubt British families would cry upon their return (I wasn't referring to the children, but the adults) from a non dangerous situation. In fact they'd probably be upset because they'd have to put the credit cards away!
23 GFace (#) Oct 25th, 2012 - 02:39 pm Report abuse
@15 I pondered this on other threads. Reason 1 against: Bad publicity of delaying civilians' returns or departures form vacations/business trips (but they're repomen so they already have bad reps). Reason 2 against: Not enough Aerolingas metal lands at airports where seizure by creditors is a likely outcome to make such a tactic profitable (if you look at their list of current destinations, they are very reliant on their Skyteam alliance partners once you leave Latin America and ST is far more centralized around AMS than One World or Star Alliance and they don't even land there and Skyteams' coverage of LatAm and Oceania is pretty sad compared to the other alliances).
24 ChrisR (#) Oct 25th, 2012 - 04:44 pm Report abuse
Don't kid yourself; the crew have had a good cry as well.

Wouldn't you if:
1) you were going back to AG and TMBOA;
2) no rise in your pay (again);
3) you had a great time in Ghana with the friendly girls;
4) you now know firsthand what a bunch of tossers are running the country;
5) did not understand what a vulture fund was until it took your ship and now you know what it is to be a deadbeat;
6) thought you had a career in the AG navy but now realise there are no working ships for you;
7) want a new passport from anywhere else so you don’t have to tell people you meet you are from AG;

No wonder they were crying. LOLs
25 Think (#) Oct 25th, 2012 - 04:52 pm Report abuse
(15) ManRod (hermanito shileno) & (23) GFace

Always happy to help some Turnips that want to help my Country......

The “Main Reason ” nobody can or will confiscate any Aerolineas Argentinas plane on any international route is.................................. ...................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................that Aerolineas Argentinas doesn't own any planes that covers any international route.

They are all leased, mates

Chuckle chuckle©
26 Troy Tempest (#) Oct 25th, 2012 - 04:57 pm Report abuse
@24 Chris
“Don't kid yourself; the crew have had a good cry as well.”

Chris, I have sympathy for the crew and the average citizens of Argentina.
As things stand now, none of them will reach their potential individuals or as a nation.

However, it is up to them to get rid of CFK et al.
27 LEPRecon (#) Oct 25th, 2012 - 05:52 pm Report abuse
@26 - Troy

Agreed. The Rgntina public seem to have a talent for picking the worst people to run their country. One can only hope tht it is a talent that they lose, for their own sakes.
28 ChrisR (#) Oct 25th, 2012 - 06:45 pm Report abuse

You have, I hope and trust, seen other posts of mine where I commented that the ONLY people to come out of this with any credibilty were the Captain and his crew, who followed their orders to the letter.

We do have the culprit now (I think): this from BsAs Herald:-

“'I am responsible for the Libertad's fate,' Puricelli says”

Defence Minister Arturo Puricelli took responsibility today for the fate of the navy training frigate Libertad, which continues to be impounded in Ghana.

“Those in charge of the Frigate are the officials at the Defence Ministry. Final decisions are made by the President and I assume the responsibilities that are given to me,” Puricelli told reporters today

So to paraphrase the Sun, so beloved of some argies:


“It wasn’t me honest!”

29 yankeeNobody (#) Oct 25th, 2012 - 09:06 pm Report abuse
@ 18
uncivilized irish man!
30 Pete Bog (#) Oct 25th, 2012 - 11:01 pm Report abuse
They are crying with joy as CFK will award them medals for suggesting an RG transport aircraft wasn't sent (to get impounded by NML).
31 briton (#) Oct 26th, 2012 - 12:02 am Report abuse
Let’s just hope, that if and when the Ghana government moves the ship,

CFK don’t try to accuse them of kidnapping,

You just never know what these Argies will come up with next..
32 Isolde (#) Oct 26th, 2012 - 09:09 am Report abuse
@31 briton,
“You just never know what these Argies will come up with next..”
A 2 Peso coin celebrating the impounding of their flagship by an African nation, perhaps?
33 briton (#) Oct 26th, 2012 - 11:12 am Report abuse
ha ha nice one.
34 Yehudi8 (#) Oct 27th, 2012 - 07:12 am Report abuse
Kokota in “the airport of Kokota” is misspelled.

The correct spelling is Kotoka.
35 ManRod (#) Oct 27th, 2012 - 11:43 pm Report abuse
“Mate is a plant, we hack it and mix with hyacinth, ginger-root, lemon and sugar”

Guzz, you're kiddin me... you are puting sugar into your Mate?
36 Isolde (#) Oct 28th, 2012 - 04:10 am Report abuse
@25 Think,
So Aerolineas Argentinas has leased planes, Cher Think.
ln light of Argentina's refusal to repay its debts, that could be classified as :-
“An Accessory Before the Act”.
@ 35 ManRod,
By the tone of his posts, l suspect that he's putting more than sugar into his maté. lol
37 briton (#) Oct 28th, 2012 - 06:40 pm Report abuse
Just because you [ lease] does not mean it cannot be taken from you,
Especially if you do not pay your fees .lol.

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