Friday, November 2nd 2012 - 05:57 UTC

Type-21 Frigate Association present at Remembrance Sunday in UK and Falklands

The Royal Navy Type 21 Association raised funds in support of activities to remember those that have lost their lives in war and peace whilst serving in the Armed Forces. The funds were raised at a successful reunion recently held in Devonport where the eight Type 21 ships were based.

HMS Antelope lost during the Falklands’ war

Members of the Association raised £635 to purchase a wooden bench to be placed in The National Memorial Arboretum (NMA) in Staffordshire. With the project being led by Committee Members Peter Mosse and David Woollard in conjunction with staff of the NMA, the bench will have a plaque with the names of all eight ships and will form a permanent fixture within the Arboretum for all visitors to use at a place of national importance. The bench is expected to be dedicated in the spring of 2013 in the presence of Association members.

The Type 21 Association will also be represented on Remembrance Sunday in the United Kingdom and in the Falklands with the laying of poppy wreaths with the Type 21 Association Crest. Wreaths will be laid at The Cenotaph in Whitehall, at the Falklands War Memorial situated in the Maritime Memorial Garden on Plymouth Hoe, and also at The Type 21 Memorial that overlooks San Carlos Water in the Falkland Islands where HMS Ardent and HMS Antelope were lost during the 1982 conflict with many lives lost.

The RN Type 21 Association brings together all servicemen who served on the Royal Navy’s Type 21 Frigates. It has been formed to organise reunions and events and as the Association develops it is hoped that it will be able to offer support and other services to its members.

The Association has already held two reunions in Plymouth which where a resounding success with guests coming from all over the UK, Canada, America, Malaysia and Australia to attend.

Membership is free, and once enrolled there is also access to a dedicated social networking site for all members. Associate Membership is available to family members, staff of Yarrow and Vosper Thornycroft shipyards who built the ships, Royal Dockyard staff, and those in the Pakistani Navy who have an association with the ships.

There were eight Type 21 Frigates that entered service between 1970 and 1975. A general purpose frigate of commercial design, they were known for their distinctive sleek lines, and good turn of speed. They were often referred to as the Porches or Greyhounds of the fleet. They were the first class of Royal Navy ships to be powered by aero derived gas turbines and the crews’ living conditions were a substantial improvement on their predecessors.

All eight ships were always based in Devonport, Plymouth, and for the first time since WWII, the “Base Port” system was reintroduced for those who served on these ships. Once trained to serve on his first Type 21, a serviceman would find that he subsequently served on several other Type 21s in his career, allowing the serviceman, and his family, stability, and familiarity with the ships. This provided a unique bond between all those who served on the ships that was not replicated elsewhere in the fleet. The ships became known as the Type 21 Club during their build period. This informal “Club” came to embody the close unity between the ships and crews.

Seven of the eight ships served with distinction in the 1982 Falklands War. Two of the ships, HMS Ardent and HMS Antelope, were lost during the conflict with many lives lost. The explosions and sinking of HMS Antelope provided some of the most iconic images of the war.

The ships were HMS Amazon, HMS Antelope, HMS Ambuscade, HMS Arrow, HMS Active, HMS Alacrity, HMS Ardent and HMS Avenger. The remaining six ships were de- commissioned in 1994 and sold to the Pakistan Navy. They are still in service with the Pakistani Navy today.

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1 British_Kirchnerist (#) Nov 02nd, 2012 - 10:29 am Report abuse
Why is it always so militarised down there?!
2 saphira (#) Nov 02nd, 2012 - 10:38 am Report abuse
Silly little Man
3 Clyde15 (#) Nov 02nd, 2012 - 11:21 am Report abuse
You know full well the reason !
They would love to live in peace and security but YOUR Argi. chums will not let them.
They are remembering a debt of gratitude for those who were killed while serving their country.
If you were a UK citizen then you would not need an explanation.
4 GALlamosa (#) Nov 02nd, 2012 - 11:49 am Report abuse
#1. Its not. The defence deterrent is only proportionate to the threat from Argentina. Puricelli said recently the only reason that Argentina did not own the Falklands was because of the British military deterrent. Thats why they are here, to protect fundamental human rights.
5 Teaboy2 (#) Nov 02nd, 2012 - 12:21 pm Report abuse
@1 - What the hell does this article have to do with militarization? Nothign at all!

In fact its about the Type 21 association raising funds so they can remember those in the armed forces that have died in war (on both sides) and in peace time. The Falklands war is close to the association members hearts since they lost 2 type 21's and many of their colleagues that were serving on those ships. So they have every right to be in the falklands to remember them and lay a wreath for them.

But hey, there is always one narrowminded arsehole that wants to turn an article that merely mentions the falklands into a Brit/Islander V Argentina slagging off match isn't there “Arsehole”!
6 toooldtodieyoung (#) Nov 02nd, 2012 - 12:28 pm Report abuse
1 British_Kirchnerist

They are remembering and honouring the dead, those that fell in battle. And as my friend Teaboy2 says at 5, they remember and honour the dead of BOTH SIDES!!! Now, does Argentina do the same?

Do you remember and honour those who lost their lives in the Falklands? Or are you going to keep relying on the Islanders to do your remembering for you?
7 War Monkey (#) Nov 02nd, 2012 - 12:45 pm Report abuse
And because you don't remember BK you are doomed to repeat the same mistakes over and over again.
8 Anti-Fascist (#) Nov 02nd, 2012 - 12:58 pm Report abuse
@1 Artentine Twat:

Why are Argentine twats so retarded, they can't read?
9 Santa Fe (#) Nov 02nd, 2012 - 02:58 pm Report abuse
8... Couldn't have put it better
A fake British Le Campora troll , mamas cooking his pasta, she crys into the pasta, why does my son stay hunched over his computer all day long, in a our humble slum dwelling, if only he would go out and meet a nice lady. Sorry a little to close to the truth ehhh fake BK
10 bloody rubbish britons (#) Nov 02nd, 2012 - 03:27 pm Report abuse
what a show for the 3,000 retards!
11 Conor J (#) Nov 02nd, 2012 - 03:56 pm Report abuse
Always loved the look of the old Type 21s, such beautiful ships.

Yawn again.
12 Idlehands (#) Nov 02nd, 2012 - 04:02 pm Report abuse
10 bloody rubbish britons

Do you believe your appearance and posts say anything to the world other than “Hello I'm stupid” ??
13 reality check (#) Nov 02nd, 2012 - 04:04 pm Report abuse
How very appropriate that the crew of a type 21 should be there at this time of the year to honour the fallen.

We will remember them, from the sea, freedom.
14 perfecta (#) Nov 02nd, 2012 - 05:31 pm Report abuse
I am telling the true about the brits, like it or not!
15 reality check (#) Nov 02nd, 2012 - 05:49 pm Report abuse
You would not know the truth about the Brits, if the truth jumped up and bit you in the arse. Your opinion is bitter, twisted and biased by the disappointment of something you can not have, vis a vis, the Falklands. Aggrevated by a humiliating military defeat at the hands of a numericaly inferior force of a superior military, when you resorted to force to obtain what you could not have.
So excuse me if us Brits could not give a flying fergie about your opinion of us.

Oh and warmonkey, is ever so ever so right.
16 Usurping Pirate (#) Nov 02nd, 2012 - 07:14 pm Report abuse
BK : It's militarised down there because every now and then the argie army likes to try to invade the Falkland Islands .
British soldiers have to be on hand to take their surrender , feed them ( their own officers don't you see ? ) and then send them back to the mainland on a 5 star cruise liner .
17 reality check (#) Nov 02nd, 2012 - 07:25 pm Report abuse
And all that lovely new kit to capture as well. Save yourself the hassle, just arrange to have it delivered to UK MOD direct. Much more efficient.
18 China owns the UK (#) Nov 02nd, 2012 - 07:26 pm Report abuse
the brits are broke with a 2 trillon dollars debt see the UK Debt Clock!
19 reality check (#) Nov 02nd, 2012 - 07:30 pm Report abuse
Oh dear, 2 trillion! Is that more than a quizzlion or less. Just asking cos that is the extent of this Brits overdraft facility. I was going to call him a muppet, but what the hell did the muppets ever do to him!!!
20 toooldtodieyoung (#) Nov 02nd, 2012 - 07:31 pm Report abuse
10 bloody rubbish britons @ 14 perfecta & 18 China owns the UK

Another 3 to add to the list?

They ARE all sussieUS arn't they? The same words keep popping up but in a different order.......
21 reality check (#) Nov 02nd, 2012 - 07:35 pm Report abuse
Must be, there can not possibly be three or more of them, what the hell was the name of that movie where they threw water over these creatures and they multiplied, oh yeah, Gremlins that's them. Breed faster than bunnies on steroids.
22 Clyde15 (#) Nov 02nd, 2012 - 07:46 pm Report abuse
The correct term is parthenogenesis. This is the condition where a low life form, such as a greenfly, can reproduce without the action of a male. Is this a surprise ?
In effect it is cloning. Any adverse traits are passed on to the clones so the are impossible to tell apart.
23 slattzzz (#) Nov 02nd, 2012 - 07:49 pm Report abuse
@1, 10, 14 Members of the Association raised £635 to purchase a wooden bench to be placed in The National Memorial Arboretum (NMA) in Staffordshire. Read the fuckin article before you gob off you fucking rg retards. Sussie why don't you visit and pay respects to your dead.....tell you why, your an ignorant arsehole of a troll living in the US sponging a living off the state, who really couldn't care less about Argentinas dead, so fuck off back under your rock
24 reality check (#) Nov 02nd, 2012 - 08:17 pm Report abuse
Mate, these cucking funts never served, WTF would they know about honouring the fallen, ours and theirs. They have no concept of honour and respect.

From one ex seviceman to another, fuckem!!!!!!!!!!!!
25 slattzzz (#) Nov 02nd, 2012 - 08:27 pm Report abuse
@24 your right they've no honour or respect, in fact couldn't even spell the words. GSTQ !!!!!
26 briton (#) Nov 02nd, 2012 - 08:44 pm Report abuse
How can you tell if CFK is so desperate and scraping the barrow,

When as their last line of defence,
Is [ SUSSIE, ]

27 reality check (#) Nov 02nd, 2012 - 08:46 pm Report abuse
My grandfather enlisted on the 31st of December, 1914.

On the 31st of December, 2014 I plan on going out and getting fally down drunk and every pint I sink, will be in memory of him and all of those, who fought with him, those who came home, like he did but especially those who did not.
28 slattzzz (#) Nov 02nd, 2012 - 09:03 pm Report abuse
@27 my grandad enlisted 1918 RN aged 15, got sunk three times in WW2 and lived till he was 92, my dad did 32 years in RN, My brother did 19 yrs RN, I joined RN in 77 left in 2005, my son joined RN in 2002 Helo maintainer on Merlins and doing well and my nephew has just left after ten years, you may say a real Naval family. I have all our medals mounted with pride of place on our wall at home, and all our service docs (save those still serving), makes some interesting reading I can tell you. We always get together for anniversarys ie my Dad and Grandads passing and have a right good knees up, because that's the way they'd have wanted it. That's why I have no respect for arseholes who don't appreciate or respect what our fathers and forefathers did for us, and the lads who are still doing it today
29 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 02nd, 2012 - 09:14 pm Report abuse
1 BK

Why do you think?
30 reality check (#) Nov 02nd, 2012 - 09:24 pm Report abuse
RN through and through then, fantastic pedigree.
Me, Great Grandad, Royal Navy.
Grandad. Royal Field Artillary, Great War, Gassed twice.
Father, Regimental Sergeant Major, Infantry.
Me RAF, third brother Para. Late baby brother RM.
Then three of us in Police Force, all retired now, lost the baby booty 4 years ago cancer, miss him like I can not describe.
Those of us who have served share a bond, a bond with those very, very fine lads and girls who as you said, are doing a a fantasicly difficult today. Bless them all and bring them all safe home to their loved ones.
31 slattzzz (#) Nov 02nd, 2012 - 09:43 pm Report abuse
@30 must be something going on my Dad joined Hampshire police in criminal records dept on leaving Navy up till he retired and my brother works for Hampshire Police as we speak. “Bless them all and bring them all safe home to their loved ones”. Never a truer word spoken. Those of us who served down South have never held a grudge or bad feelings against the rg pilots that bombed us, they were doing thier job as where we, that's what numpties like sussie will NEVER understand, hence they have no respect and are not worth wasting a stand easy over
32 reality check (#) Nov 02nd, 2012 - 10:18 pm Report abuse
I served with Marine David COOMBES Mid. He seved as Captains steward aboard HMS ENDURANCE. On South Georgia, he put two 84MM rocket into the hull of an Argentinian Corvette and disabled the 100mm gun shelling them, earning his Mid. He was known throughout my old Division as “Yomper.”

Did he tell me that? no he did not. I found it out myself through the net.

In 1991, he was sent to a domestic in a rural Norlolk village. He knocked on the door, the bastard that opened it stabbed him with boning knife. In those days we had no body armour, we wore black, nylon jackets, by some miracle the knife rode up the jacket, entered under the top of his right arm and went right through. The bastard got off with attempted murder and served 9 years for wounding.

The point of this story, he went through all that on South Georgia and nearly lost is life in a sleepy rural Norfolk village.

Must have been one hell of a Marine, cos he was one hell of a copper. Retired now, like me.
33 slattzzz (#) Nov 02nd, 2012 - 10:35 pm Report abuse
@32 respect, funny how veterans never tell you thier horror stories except in certain moments, I know loads of lads who still won't speak about it now, it's something personal and in the back of thier subconsious, now and again it will come out, usually after beer.
34 José Malvinero (#) Nov 02nd, 2012 - 10:44 pm Report abuse
Arrow, damaged, Alacrity, damaged, Ardent, sunken, Antelope, sunken ... 50% of the type 21 sunk or damaged. Not so bad.
England sent to the South Atlantic as if they are in the eighteenth century-the largest navy since the Second World War and especially to ensure the False-Self Determination of 1800 islanders with sacrifice of human lives. Or the English are the greatest benefactors of humanity or are the biggest hypocrites humanity using transplanted immigrants themselves as a justification for perpetrating their occupation and interest in the Argentine Sea and Antarctic.
Obviously I prefer the second possibility: the biggest hypocrites of humanity.
35 reality check (#) Nov 02nd, 2012 - 10:45 pm Report abuse
Getting back to the story though. I for one think it is very appropriate that a type 21 visiting this time of year. I remember as do we all seeing those pictures of the ships in San Carlos Bay. Taking everything the ARA threw at them. I remember thinking they were sitting ducks, no room to manouvre. I think it was the price they had to pay to provide aircover for the landings.
Question, had they been able to manouvre in open seas, would they have suffered as much?
36 slattzzz (#) Nov 02nd, 2012 - 11:07 pm Report abuse
@35 ignoring the ignorant twat that is JM, No the air cover would have been a lot closer and the 42's/ 22's would have picked off thier airforce in open sea the land provided to many blind spots and interference for Radar as well as cover for them, if it was in open sea it would have been a turkey shoot, maybe we should have waited and let them attack us at sea till they were to weak to really threaten the landings, the carriers were out of thier range and thier Navy ran off, I think, IMO, combat air patrols to take out thier airforce was the way ahead, but that would have taken months. We would have still lost or had ships damaged to Exocet no doubt but not as many, as it happens they only had a few left (hindsight is a wonderful thing) But heyho we do as we're told, but major lessons were learnt and it would defo be a turkey shoot this time
37 reality check (#) Nov 02nd, 2012 - 11:28 pm Report abuse
Cheer Slattzzz.
Hey JM @32 pretty good at naming HM ships, but how good are you at naming hills? and others? need reminding?
Goose Green.
Mount Longdon.
Mount Kent.
Wireless Ridge.
Two Sisters.
Mount Harriet.
Pebble Island.

How long did you have to prepare for an attack coming from a fleet miles away, 3 months was it?

Now if you really want to impress us, tell us? just how many battles did you win in the war? Ah now, lets see? Oh that's right. none!!!!!!!!
38 Zhivago (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 12:02 am Report abuse
34 Jose Malvinista
Hey buddy, nudge, nudge, you lost the war, keep your voice down! Just a reminder!
39 briton (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 12:38 am Report abuse
34, silly twit,

ships planes men,
the point is, you lost.
40 Santa Fe (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 09:23 am Report abuse
34... YOU LOST Jajajajajajaja simple fact. Why rake up the match report, you scored a few goals in the first half, but in the second half we put 6 goals past you and won... See what I did , I made it sound like a football your limited intelligence may be able to understand.

Ps ... How is your second mighty corvette soon to be impounded by another of your friends South Africa, the humiliation must be unbearable
41 Pirate Love (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 01:59 pm Report abuse
Who won the Falklands war, Arg trolls remind me :))))))) jjajaajajaaajja

oh thats right, Argentina YOU LOST!! now bend over and take it.....

and thats all that matters, Its a glorious day dont you think!! :))))))
42 toooldtodieyoung (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 05:31 pm Report abuse
34 José Malvinero

oh dear, You are forgetting how many of your ships / patrol craft / aircraft were sunk by the type 21's.

Each and every one of them served with distinction and left a record second to none. The members of the Association and especially the men who served on the Type 21's should be rightly proud of their service aboard these ships. they did themselves and the country proud.

I believe ( and someone PLEASE correct me if I am wrong ) HMS Avenger actually shot down an exocet during a failed air raid on the task force and then, having lost 4 skyhawks in that attack, the Argentines claimed they had damaged HMS Invincible ( LOL )

And you are forgetting that HMS Arrow provided gunfire support for the attack on Goose Green......... Now, as an Argentine, why would you forget / ignore these facts???
43 briton (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 07:25 pm Report abuse
how many times do we have to remind you, [are they deaf]
repeat please , repeat please lol.
44 slattzzz (#) Nov 03rd, 2012 - 09:22 pm Report abuse
@42 no exocets were shot down during the Falklands war although all failed to explode on impact except the one that hit Glamorgan, (land based (by the way Glamorgan's captain was stupid trying to cut a corner of a known exocet silo to get to a resupply ship)), this was mostly thought to be through bad programming or bad maintainence of the missles, contrary to believe the French refused to provide rgenweener with any upgraded missiles although they did try to buy some from Peru (who said fook off this is your war). However tooldtodieyoung the NGS from mainly the type 21's, 12's and county class destoyers made the rgs shite themselves. A. because of they're accuracy (curtesy of the spotters from SAS, SBS etc and B. rate of rounds they could put down. We fired thousands of rounds of HE and resuppled nearly everynight. Ref the sinking of the Invincible what a crock of shit, there was no way anything rgenweener could offer would get anywhere near her, can't believe some idiots still say that they sunk her even after watching her triumpant return to Pompey weeks later
45 José Malvinero (#) Nov 04th, 2012 - 03:24 am Report abuse
Britain, shitty country if any ...
46 Santa Fe (#) Nov 04th, 2012 - 10:53 am Report abuse
45... A video made by tinhead??? Shows all the refinement of an official RG propaganda film from the ministry of lies.
47 Clyde15 (#) Nov 04th, 2012 - 01:24 pm Report abuse
I do not usually bother with tedious youtube refs, but I tried this one as I thought it was referring to sanitary ware for bathrooms.
To explain this to an Argentinian, like you. These are items made of glazed pottery to enable human waste to be collected and disposed of hygienically. I realise that this is a difficult concept to understand as the last mass influx of your countrymen just shat anywhere they fancied - in kitchens, bedrooms , halls etc.

I presume this film was made by the Dr. Goebbels film foundation.
Not as good as Tom and Jerry, amusing in parts but rather repetitive.
I don't think it will make it into the top 100 films world wide, but it keeps you impotent Argies happy so no harm done.
48 M's Bulldog (#) Nov 04th, 2012 - 02:08 pm Report abuse

You can post as much hatred as you like in this forum until your head falls off but it still won't change the fact that the islands were never yours, and never will be.

You can also threat that your tough, brave soldiers will beat our soldiers, bla, bla, bla, but the reality is that if they try again it will fail. We will carry on as normal and you will continue yet again posting pipe dreams about how “shitty” we all are and how divine, clean and pure your country is, which anyone will tell you is so very far from reality.
49 ChrisR (#) Nov 04th, 2012 - 03:11 pm Report abuse
34 José Malvinero

Spouting the usual rubbish, eh argie? Did you get the last bit: ARGIE. I know how much you love to be called an ARGIE!

Now to the point of the matter:

Your so-called ‘military’ are nothing but a bunch of wankers (as the stills provided by you confirm) and have NEVER, and will NEVER, understand the concept of HONOUR. And that is the problem for all Malvanistas and a good deal of the civilians as well.

There must be some good Argentineans (Simon68 being a good example among with a few others) who see the reality of the situation and what is coming to you all except TMBOA and her gang of thugs.

So carry on weeping into your mate argie, while you have it to drink. Before long, you and your ilk will have fack ull, and I will well and truly celebrate that day.

Now just to make it clear to you stupid argies: FACK ORFF.
50 briton (#) Nov 04th, 2012 - 07:00 pm Report abuse
Arircaft Carrier Construction
It’s slowly coming together.

and you have ???????
or should we say, others HAVE of yours,
51 Pete Bog (#) Nov 04th, 2012 - 11:15 pm Report abuse
“Or the English”
You need to bone up on history.
English people did go down to the South Atlantic in 1982 joined by Scottish Troops (BIG CLUE=Scots Guards), Welsh troops (BIG CLUE=Welsh Guards), Nepalese troops (BIG CLUE=the Ghurkas), and there were several other nationalities that sent your pirates packing back to where they belong.

Your french mercenaries were sensible enough to leave Pebble Island before the SAS gave you a lesson in how to conduct a succesful commando raid, but your American mates were finished off by the Paras.

You actually miss the point that your cowardly forces invaded and bullied a population of no more than 2000, with a huge numerical superiority, laid unmarked mines like the amateurs you are, shit in people's beds when most civilised people use toilets, boobytrapped schools and falsely painted red crosses on buildings housing ammunition. Not to mention your failed use of napalm.

It is your country that has a backward, 18th century, fascist mentality (inherited from the Nazi criminals you invited with open arms after WW2 )as you are unable to move into the future with your asses stuck 200 years in the past, where they will stay forever.
52 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 05th, 2012 - 01:44 am Report abuse
@34 JM

” Or the English are the greatest benefactors of humanity or are the biggest hypocrites humanity using transplanted immigrants themselves as a justification for perpetrating their occupation and interest in the Argentine Sea and Antarctic'

I guess you gambled and lost on that one - who would have thought they would support their own people from invasion ??

I suppose you hate them for that ?
53 briton (#) Nov 05th, 2012 - 07:26 pm Report abuse
34 just hates and hates.
54 reality check (#) Nov 06th, 2012 - 10:17 pm Report abuse
If the ARA were so good, why do I see so many CGI and caroon representatations on line of the attack on the Invincible? What, you can mount an exocet on an aircraft, but you can not manage a camera!!!!!

You realise how silly you look! reproducing a compuet generated image or a cartton, of a courageous attack on an aircraft carrier, who was flying the A4's? Shrek, Donald Duck, Buggs Bunny and Popeye!!!!!!
55 Pete Bog (#) Nov 06th, 2012 - 11:09 pm Report abuse
A cartoon could be made of the British salvage ship that raised the Invincible three times, as apparently the Argentines sunk it three, or was it four times?

Looked quite good when she returned to UK considering she had done submarine impressions.

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