Argentine armed sailors prevent Ghana port officials from moving ARA Libertad
Armed sailors on board the detained Argentine ARA Libertad frigate in Ghana threatened to open fire on Ports and Harbours Authority (GPHA) officials, if they attempted to move the ship from berth 11 to berth six, at the Tema Port, according to reports of “The Chronicle” local newspaper.
The Chronicle's investigations at the port revealed that the GPHA's action was a result of a motion they filed at the High Court, Commercial Division, for the frigate to be shifted from a commercial berth she had been occupying since 2 October 2012, when the detention order went into force.
For hours, the situation remained tense, until the Argentine Ambassador to Nigeria, also responsible for Ghana, Susana Pataro arrived at wharf to seek audience with the port officials to be allowed to get on board, but that did not materialize.
In the midst of the tense moments, the Flag officer Commanding (FOC) Eastern Naval Command, Commodore Akoto Bunso, came and intervened, and on Wednesday mid-afternoon the gangway was lowered, but as soon the envoy got on board, the sailors lifted it to its former position.
The ambassador remained on board the detained frigate trying to speak to the armed crew, who only laid down their arms later in the evening.
According to the GPHA authority, berth 11 at the Tema Port receives container vessels, and is considered one of the busiest quays, and for that matter, wanted her to be shifted to the nearby berth six, which is not part of the busy zones at the port.
However further investigations revealed that on hearing the directive, the managers of the vessel decided that they would not heed the order, and subsequently, their lawyer, Kizituo Beyuo from Fountain Chambers, wrote a letter to the GPHA indicating that the High Court, presided over by His Lordship Adjei-Frimpong, granted the GPHA motion for a variation of the order of injunction, which was granted on 2nd October, 2012.
“The court ordered that the defendant's vessel, Fragata Libertad, currently at berth 11, Tema Port, be moved and kept at berth six. The defendant has since appealed to the Court of Appeal against the decision of His Lordship Adjei-Frimpong.
“By rule 27(3) of the Court of Appeal rules CI 19, there is an automatic stay of execution of the order by His Lordship Adjei-Frimpong for a period of seven days, immediately following the giving of the judgment or decision.
“This letter is to draw your attention to the above provision, in order that you do not take any steps in furtherance the order appealed against, which will render our client's appealed nugatory.”
GPHA head Jacob Kwabla Adorkor, quoted by the Argentine media confirmed the incident lasted from 06:00 in the morning Wednesday to mid afternoon and admitted “we never expected the Argentines to point us with rifles; we expected them to act professionally; this is not a war, we carried no guns or munitions, we only wanted to talk to them”.
Adorkor denied port authorities had cut the electricity supply to the vessel, “they have their own generators” and contrary to reports in Buenos Aires pier six is only one kilometre away inside the port of Tema.
“What concerns us is not ARA Libertad’s debt, we are losing 60.000 dollars a day which other container vessels should be paying for operating in this busy part of the harbour”, added the Ghana official.
From Buenos Aires and Argentine Navy spokesperson said that “the situation is of complete normality. The vessel remains in the same pier from the very first day, October first and is waiting to receive further formal instructions”.
Regarding the incident Rear Admiral Daniel Alberto Martín said the commander of the frigate reported to the Tema port authorities that “the vessel will remain in that pier until it receives further instructions from the Navy for any movement to be made”.
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Arg is repeating near exactly the late '70s
At least we got our Jimmy Carter this time in the U.S.!!!
so argentina thinks pointing weapons will get what it wants, yet again?
they may be trouble ahead.....yet again.
The govt. of Argentina seem to be sacrificing them for the sake of hubris.
You lot just want to cry, don't you?
;)
Say your last prayers Argies.
What are you going to do? Throw your keyboard at them? Twice?
As previously said in this thread it is pretty sure the Ghanaians have now brought in their Army near the ship and will not tolerate a group of armed bandits threaten their port officials. As always when Argies resort to military action they come off second best.
Oh he got the message alright but not a good message for Argentina. This is not going to end the way CFK is kidding nobody it is. I bet the ship is moved under the instructions of Ghana within a few days and this will be the last time the Argentine military is welcome inthe country.
And what a welcome they recieved...
You think Arg will accept another of those invitations?
The world doesn't spin around your belly-button, Joe.
I got news for you, it never has...
Even the Argie sailors lack a spine. I imagine the Argie trolls are proud of their sailors arming themselves and threatening unarmed officials.
Life is cheap when you're sitting comfortably in Denmark, eh Guzz?
Tosser.
Update:
Guzz says he was “exiled” to Denmark er, umm Sweden, I think...
He now says he has“returned' to SA because, according to him, ” Gusanos are those who move to Europe or the US because they cannot live off others for free in SA“.
He implies he is in Uruguay, but its more likely he never leaves Argentina.
BTW, this one tough character with a strong moral fiber. ”Guzzano claims he was a brave Socialist fighting against the fascists in Operation Condor, in the 1970's.
That should make him 60-70 years old, by now. Do you think he shows that maturity ??
Look how calm BK is, and he's got to be in his 80's !
It hurts my soul every time I read about a child dead from UK/US firearms and bombs in the middle east...
Oh, and whose “military dead”?
What makes you think I believe the world revolves around me?
Anyones, the more, the merrier...
As soon as someone disagrees with you, they are TTT.
Told you, the world doesn't spin around your belly-button.
TTT was posting away about Libertad just now on Ghana News.
Same verbose style
...and you reckon I think the world revolves around MY belly button. Ever been to cordoba Guzz? Deadbeat.
Not nearly as cool as “The Bourne Identity” so don't bother going there.
The only reason you are so upset and ramble about multiple identities, is because you have no one yourself.
Fly on little butterfly...
Using the flippant “dismissal tactic” again, I see.
Did your operative “Pirat-Hunter” (ALEX VARGAS) get conked on the head or his teeth knocked out, outside the Consulate on N-8 ???
Was expecting some portrayals of graphic violence from him by now.
Does this mean you are Poppy, yanquiboy, Ayayay, Tooold, Briton, LEP and Joe?
Because you lot seriously need to change the record...
** French word sometimes is used a jargon “ a man who knows nothing ”
Guzz has actually helped me keep things in context. I don't have an issue with him or Argentines in general. I am simply a Falkland Islander who had his back up a little because the government of our nearest neighbour kept trying to use us as a distraction from her own problems. Actually I'm not concerned about our security...
Sorry. Mrs Bloggs is coming in through back door for her usual Saturday morning ritual of catching up with news and replying to emails whilst eating breakfast. Being on her beloved MacBook Pro on a Saturday morning after the hens have been tended to is suicidal.
Sounds like your life is clocked mate... You sure you aren't conquerors Dr. Jekyll?
For someone who 'claims' to Uruguayan you seem so personally invested in the Argentine cause, not even the Uruguayan government is openly protesting what the Ghanaians are doing. After reading your posts on here I am satisfied that you are Argentine. Hopefully the Ghanaian military will shoot next time they raise their arms , they have probably been taking advice from the British Foreign office and know that if you fight back, the white flag very quickly follows.
Still, they are 45 men on board. A ship of that size...
One would suggest moral suicide is being one thing whilst purporting to be another. I rather think you have beat me too it.
But respect to the Ghanaians again for the tolerance shown to this bunch of idiots. Let us hope that they have placed armed guards and heavy automatic weapons close by in case of a repeat.
Despicable actions by the AG ‘Captain’.
Only thing that is interesting is how you are viewed in the eyes of the world. Every moral vein-cutting from your side helps. If you ask me, even sinking Libertad, but then again, I'm not Argentine...
If it wasn't so sad it would be funny. A nation bankurpt of EVERYTHING.
40 Guzz
“Because you lot seriously need to change the record...”
It hurts my soul every time I read about a child dead from UK/US firearms and bombs in the middle east...
Take a look at your own posts you idiot!! who needs to “Change the record?”
40-some military dead would be a fair price to pay for your moral suicide...
and then you talk of moral suicide!!!! Moral's are what the rest of the world has Guzz. As I pointed out in another post, Argentina is A-Moral. That is, it's not that they have any moral's, it's just that they don't know how to act Morally or even what moral's are.
Tell you what Guzz, from now on, leaving the thinking to the grown-ups would you? there a little lamb.............
Grown-ups? you?
You bash Argentina should she surrenders without struggle.
You bash Argentina should she struggle to surrender.
You bash Argentina should she struggle and not surrender.
You bash Argentina for the sake of bashing Argentina.
How very mature of you...
Well slattzzz, I would just crap over the railing. No law against that...
Mmmmmmmmmmmmn, brandishing guns in someone else's country...........not a smart move.
But then, its not the first time for Argentina, is it?
“If you hear something late at night
some kind of straining
some kind of splash
just don't ask me what it was”
;)
No doubt you would crap over the side of the ship - but their is a law against it whilst a ship is in port.
The Ghanaians would have to add environmental terrorism to the list of crimes against the Argentine Sailors.
Threatening behaviour
Refusing to obey a legal order
Environmental terrorism
Of course, if they were ever stupid enough to open fire, they would all be arrested and charged with attempted murder, or murder if they actually killed someone.
They still have the death penalty in Ghana...
Hahahaha LEP!!!
I'd love to see the specifics of that mentioned law :))))))))
Latest telephonic update from the “Fragata Libertad”. (10/11/12, 09:30 Zulu Time)
1) Ship still moored at berth 11, port of Tema, Republic of Ghana.
2) Water, electricity and sewage services functioning normally.
3) Situation in the ship is of “absolute normality”, the Captain informs.
Of course Think, and the crew members are allowed to leave the ship at will, I'm just fooling around with these titwits...
Nope..... Nobody is allowed to disembark ship.....
All permissions to land have been revoqued by the Captain since Wednesday morning......
Please, keep fooling around with those titwits.....
I'm too old for it ;-)
Still friend, it's in the hands of the captain.
And I will, as soon as they post another stupidity.
On the contrary to what they believe, I'm doing this for plain fun :)))
This was a sophomoric act that will not go un-noticed. It would be quite embarrassing for RG Navy personnel to rot in jail in Africa.
BTW I see Obama is going to Ghana to show support for their growing democracy and rule of law. I wonder if he has any trips planned to Argentina...probably not
I wonder what is taking so long to repossess this ship... I wonder if Singer is letting it sit there and hoping for more embarrassing international incidents. Maybe, since time is on his side.
A visit from Obama means what exactly?
Your belly-button syndrome is alarming...
I bet it drives the hag crazy
You need to look at thing with a bit of perspective.
Obama is visiting you lot for another whole 4 years, and it's STILL not helping you, is it?
I hate Obama, I worked against him but the people spoke and I will get along fine and I hope the rest of the USA does too. We will try again in anther 4 years.
The USA is a huge and very wealthy country it would take generations to end up like Argentina. Look how long it took them to go from 1st world to 3rd world 5-6 generations and they were no where near as rich as we are plus we work and make things not just live off what the land can produce and are at the whims of the weather for our survival.
Looks like the weather isn't cooperating too much this year. Isn't that what killed the Mayans?
hahahaa
yanqui, you are so full of shit, a plomber would constantly pull your ears...
So you'd just shit everywhere? Like you did in the Falklands, you mean?
Actually I forgot right now Argentina is considered Frontier...but that won't be for very much longer.
Guzz do you have any idea how much U$ you get for a Patacone? You better find out. I have a feeling that what the December bonus will be made up of...
Only thing that will happen in December is the Clarin media grop being dissolved into clarinetes... itos, clarinetitos...
www.google.dk/imgres?imgurl=http://escuelahispanicademusica.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/clarinete.jpg&imgrefurl=escuelahispanicademusica.wordpress.com/category/curso-de-clarinete/&h=425&w=270&sz=34&tbnid=4mOvgoK8Q42N0M:&tbnh=90&tbnw=57&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dclarinete%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=clarinete&usg=__HUySRr3aphk6Pbmzf_g87WnArYU=&docid=eOcgRJtMdgO07M&hl=da&sa=X&ei=AlieUIbDDsn3sgbA9oCIDQ&ved=0CCIQ9QEwAA&dur=971
Look
www.lr21.com.uy/economia/1073197-habra-mas-oxigeno-en-nueva-etapa-de-la-relacion-uruguay-estados-unidos
Your “Prez” isn't important enough for our “Prez”, so we send our embassador to deal with him instead...
As for last link, disregard it, here's the proper one:
escuelahispanicademusica.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/clarinete.jpg
Plus the article was talking about how Uruguay is DESPERATE to sell more into the USA. DESPERATE.
I wonder if they'll sign an FTA next year?
Uruguay will NEVER been large or relevant enough to have a State Visit. Never.
Good gracious what kind of delusional world do you live in?
www.huliq.com/14425/thousands-of-uruguayans-protest-bush-arrival
If you are trying to say Uruguay is relevant to the USA you'll never prove your point.
I am sure we would LOVE to set up a base there though. I wonder if that is part of the FTA agreement....
That particular FTA agreement you are mentioning... You´'ve been talking about that since February. There is no evidence of such agreement whatsoever, just another one of your foolish predictions... Get it, we don't want any FTA's with you lot, and if you are in such a hurry to get one, talk to Mercosur.
I think there are a couple US Senators that want to see it get back on track and your Ambassador is falling all over himself to get it done.
As MercoSur is failing and Uruguay sinks along with Argentina I can see the drooling over the USA market is starting again.
Eyes wide shut guzzy eyes wide shut
jbriski.wordpress.com/2012/04/01/renewed-talk-of-us-uruguay-free-trade-agreement/
Stop talking crap, yanqui... I'll admit you are good at it, but it serves you no purpose...
www.gregpalast.com/the-globalizer-who-came-in-from-the-cold/
Lot's has changed....
Don't worry you'll like it just look at Chile they've had an USA FTA for years and they seem to be doing quite well. Better than most I would say.
And not only inside your head, out in the real world.
Feel free to post anything that backs your words, fool.
Anything!
Tell you what, you can't, because in the alternative reality of your, CNN has no coverage.
Don't you think they are a bit worried about this? Uruguay is very dependent on a good summer season, whole towns exist solely for this purpose.
MercoSur has not worked for them, Argentina is a HORRIBLE HORRIBLE trading partner and even your inept commie Prez is looking for alternatives.
The FTA is done, maybe there are a few details to iron out yet but it will happen sooner than later. It does require Uruguay to abandon MeroSur though...that'll be a blow to CFK and her papi Chavez.
And it won't be on CNN, Uruguay is too small and barely anyone has ever heard of it in the North.
Yes, the law only counts for English people, or better said it only counts for people who could actually back up their threats. How long do you think your ship will last, a good SWAT team could take them out, if there are any retired SAS in Ghana I'm sure one or two of them could take the ship in under an hour. Poor deluded little busboy.
We want no FTA with you
Mercosur doesn't want an FTA with you
CELAC doesn't want anything to do with you
But hey, in your head, we are this -| |- close to a trade agreement...
Keep dreaming fool...
I didn't say they are close I said the FTA was already written, negotiated and done....can you read your own links?
Just let it happen you'll like it.
I promise
So proove your words. Is it so difficult?
By the way, Uruguay was a member of Mercosur long before Mujica became President. At no point has his decision decided the outcome of a fantasy FTA with the USA.
Argentina and Brazil have been criticized for promoting protectionist policies to the detriment of Uruguay and Paraguay, the two considerably smaller Mercosur nations. Uruguayan Vice President Danilo Astori went so far as to say in March that “Argentina completely ignores the Mercosur treaty and spirit.”
Despite growing disillusionment with Mercosur among the people of Uruguay, it’s unlikely that the country will leave Mercosur. In fact, President Jose Mujica has promised to “fight to the death” for the future of Mercosur.
In the end, Mercosur’s restrictions on bilateral trade agreements will present the greatest hurdle to establishing a full-blown FTA between the US and Uruguay.”
What in there prooves your point?
That Mujica doesn't want any FTA with you? Indeed
That Mercosur doesn't want FTA's with you? Indeed
That Uruguay isn't leaving Mercosur? Indeed
That you are a charlatan? Indeed
Your point is?
Chuckle chuckle.
Right dickhead let me explain, the clue is in your stupid statement. We point guns at pirates because.........................wait for it ...............they're fuckin pirates the word pirate you should understand, if they boarded and took away an Rg tanker would they be pirates then, of course they would you dick, pirates don't care who's ship they target including YOURS. They board tankers and anything else with AK47's and take hostages for ransom, nationality does not matter to them Rg, British, Us, Russian, Afghan, they don't give a fook mate . So where is your fuckin Navy protecting the innocent...........................oh sorry I forgot. I really hope one of your tankers is next that the Pirates board and hold to ransom and see your pathetic response, you'll probably blame us for not protecting them enough, you pathetic fool
I remember abusing everybody indeed. It was after my first encounter with conqueror, after he promised to kill me...
The rest of it, please post me a link to refresh my memory. What will happen in March?
And what are you chuckling about???
Guzzy I saw that article a long time ago but guess what, its November.
Lots has changed since April hasn't it? I think that was a bit before the hag shut off imports and the U$..isn't it?
Lot's has changed....
Uruguay is getting squeezed, panicked, scared...the ol drunk commie chose the wrong sides now he's looking to switch again...or do you think he is too dumb?
What has changed?
Actually, lets forget about proofs and lets go to the root of the problem. Your head.
What is it in your head that makes you believe your drivel? No proof needed, just try to form one (1) single sentence that talks about what actually has changed and not about the fact that it happened. Your move.
Lots has changed since April hasn't it? I think that was a bit before the hag SHUT OFF IMPORTS and the ABILITY OF RGS TO SPEND U$ IN URUGUAY..isn't it?
Does that help?
Retard
That?
I'm not sure you are keeping up, Pepe offers the Arg tourist to shop tax free in order for them to continue spending cash in Uruguay. Nodoby ever mentioned an FTA with USA as a counter-measure...
And I'm the retard? Lol...
Eyes wide shut, eyes wide shut.
yanqui
Obviously I don't have a single clue what is going on in your head, on that we fully agree...
Yes, yes you are.........
The very fact that you even had to ask the question proves it.
You know what the “3rd world” is now, don't you?
Guess you were in a bit of a doubt until a retard came along ;)
I've always known, I just like watching you, telling your lies and playing your usual game of trying to answer a question without answering a question.
The ONLY thing that you appeared to achieve is now everyone on this site KNOW's that you are a liar and can not carry an arguement in a bucket.
So why don't you answer slattzzz @ 114 huh? we will start from there.
Again you are involving your family matters into these threads...
I want none of it, and if your son is refusing you, respect him.
My personal life has nothing to do with these threads either, so drop that as well.
In a different article you said that all persons of the military should be buried alive and eaten by worms but when your sailors take up arms against unarmed port officials you support them? Double standards much?
But he still likes to play his games...
have you decided if your Rg, Uruguyan, Swedish, or Danish yet, in your 50's ex ships engineer or still a 20 year old student living in northern europe?
Can't or won't........................?
You say:
A while ago I proved that it is mathamatically impossible to have .. blah,.... blah...., blah...
A shorter while ago (at comment 85) you said...:
“Uruguay will NEVER been large or relevant enough to have a State Visit. NEVER.”
I say:
Isn't that George W. Bush we see on the video below during his State Visit to Uruguay some 5 yeaars ago?
www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=2556156n
You are a true “Doomsday Prepper”... Funny to watch but... What a Waco!
It doesn't count, George W. Bush was a joke, the party that spawned him was a joke, they continue to be a joke and they always WILL be a joke.
Hey, it's a bit like KFC!! / TMBOA / Ol' Turkey Neck / The Harpy!! oh and Laughing boy Timerman!!! only with them, there is no punch line.
You say that President George W Bush State Visit to Uruguay on 2007 was a joke?
Was President Johnson State Visit to Uruguay on 1967 a joke too?
Was President Eisenhower State Visit to Uruguay on 1960 a joke too?
Was President Roosevelt State Visit to Uruguay on 1960 a joke too?
It just shows the total ignorance of certain Anglo turnips in here ....
Spot on. Yet he says I think the world revolves around myself. Geez, give me a break Guzz. Count up the posts on these threads. You've got to be running at 3:1 to anyone else.
So far he is running at about 32% on this story. So almost in and three posts on here are in the name Guzz. God knows how many posts on here in total are written by the deadbeat behind that tag. I'm pretty sure three are only about 3 regular posters on the Argentine side in total.
I am not Guzz, that is all I can say.
Okay, now I see what you're on about. I'm not familiar with those call signs. My bread and butter ones are of a different variety.
Was DamfuckingannoyingTroll the deadbeat that came on here about a week ago and said he wanted to have a UK experience? I knew from the very first post he was just a born-again deadbeat with big feet and a small dick.
The only puzzling part is his language. He sounds more British than Argentine.
It's good fun winding the deadbeats up whoever they are. Been away much lately? I'm enjoying 3 short weeks at home before heading off again the week after next. Last trip for the year, touch-wood.
I shall be heading back to SoAm in January. I am kind of hoping Argentina won't be on the itinerary as my friends there are feeling very uneasy about the escalating situation. But that might just be a good reason to go....
Enjoy your time at home.
I was in South America a week or so ago but not Argentina. I hope you enjoy seeing your friends. Those sorts of trips are good and bad at the same time. It's nice to have some time off and catch up with friends but they make the total time away add up. Do you go to Central America/ Carib region much? I feel like I spend half my life there.
BTW, how's the big case you've worked up against us going? Remember? The one that will be realised around March next year? Come to think of it, no wonder you changed names again.
Nov 10th, 2012 - 09:35 am
As long as it isn't your death eh Guzz?
I have become used to the nomadic lifestyle and have built social networks in the countries I visit regularly, so I just slot back in wherever I am. It takes a bit of work though.
@148 Nope. Did not notice.
I've got to stop the travel in another year or two though because it is starting to become a drag.
(I'd bet everything I own that if sailors from a British ship did this then all of the Argentines leaping to the crew's defence here would be condemning them as aggressive, militarising pirates...)
Do you think TTT's work just gave him his 2013 diary?
3 Presidential “whistle-stops” while in South Anerica.
All that was half a century ago !!
They are not even on the radar, now.
Anyway, Uruguay has nothing to do with it.
The “Guzz” identity really lives in and for, Argentina.
Guzzano, we don't care where you live.
The point is, we show these these inconsistencies to demonstrate that you are full of shit, and your story changes to suit the circumstances.
When that becomes too obvious, you choose another incarnation.
Meanwhile TTT is up to Mid-February already in his new 2013 diary. Keep reading TTT, you're really impressing us all immensely.
Yes, I think another five years tops and I shall have to take another route. I still love the travel - apart from the usual annoyances -, meeting new people, a fresh city to explore, and I don't want to lose than.
You sure you aren't Elaine?
I mean, after midnight... It makes sense, both spit useless drivel and your strongest argument is “you are someone else”...
Lets play your game, lets talk about who we assume everybody else is, at least it's a conversarion you lot can keep up with...
And you are the other character here, of 2 in total from your side. Namely slattzz/Poppy/yanqui/Ayayay/conqueror.
Where is it after midnight? Not here.
Joe, why have you changed alias then??
You coùld not hit(reach) somè nàmes from onè side.
morè càrefùl plèase....
No one actually has to go on board do they? they just cast off the lines from the dock side and have a couple of tugs standing by to push ARA Libertad anywhere they want it to go right?
The sailors can't shoot anyone cause they are not boarding the vessel and if they don't want to find themselves stuck on a sandbank somewhere then they have no choice but to comply.
I can not believe the Ports and Harbours Authority are handling them with kid gloves.... It's their Port, their rules and if the ARA Libertad doesn't want to comply then shove them on a sandbank out of the way.
Do i whisper who ís who ?..no oné can heár .
ElaineB
Do you deal with politicians, diplomats and senior civil servants in your line of work? I suspect you do. I do and this story reminds me of so many of the characters I have met over the years in various places. The amount of hours people will be spending on this will be enormous. What a waste of time all because of the financial pickle CFK has let them get in.
Does anyone know if other assets such as Tango 1 are confined to Argentina only?
Chuckle chuckle.
Still not going to answer the question then?
I've no idea who ElaineB is and as far as I know she lives in the UK when she isn't travelling the globe like I myself do.
What do you do for a living?
Deadbeat...
Could be grieved as
1, and act of war,
2, an act of aggression,
3, an act of terrorism,
4, an act of piracy,
///////////////////////////////////////////////////
We don’t know how or what the Ghanaians will do,
But we think you will find, they have a right to,
1, open fire in response,
2, board the ship and shoot/arrest,
3, send a warning to CFK to inform them to disarm, or an act or aggression, it may be…..
4, Conflict , very doubtful, but the next move could probably up to CFK.
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Just an opinion.
mmmmm
.
Sussie ???
LOL
:)))
It's no use asking Deadbeat what he does for a living, he can't even answer a simple question about where he's from.
Such colourful myths.
First off, tell me where YOU are from
Deadbeat ;)
@127 At it's current level, the last important “visit” that Uruguay had was the Admiral Graf Spee in 1939.
@135 Does that mean that you're a “real” faggot?
@141 You have to understand differences. In Britain there is a tiny minority of putrid wankers. B_K is an example. An offering from the Slimy Necrophiliac Ponces. In argieland, these “things” are the 99.7% majority. Going to prove that sh*te sticks together!
@148 Have you tried intelligence and English?
@162 You're trying to appear intelligent, aren't you? Bit of advice. Not working!
@165 Whoops! Wrong. Thick Guzzle!
@181 Oh dear. An argie, queer faggot with delusions of grandeur. Trust me, I have no reservations about ripping/cutting your head off, shoving it down a toilet (face up, mouth open) and crapping on/in it. Would you like to volunteer to (sit) on my 8-foot steel stake? Think of the pleasure to be felt as it works its way up. And the uncertainty. Will it come out of your mouth? Your nose? Your eye? The top of your head? And all self-lubricated!
Well I know where Guzz is from. He's from Argentina.
However, he's so embarrassed to be an Argentinian that he swears blind that he is a Uruguayan/Swedish/Dane.
He is also a marine engineer/a student or more likely unemployed, spitting on the very hands that feed him.
He is also a 70 year old 'twenty-something', with an obvious poor memory, because he can't keep up with his own lies.
He is also brilliant at English grammar and often points out when other posters get their spelling or grammar wrong, but gets upset when his own failings in that area are pointed out to him.
He also hates the military, whilst at the same time supporting dictatorships, and a socialist who states on minute that he respects life (constantly mentioning how the evil British and Americans are killing women and children in Afghanistan), but supports the setting up of concentration camps to dispose of all those who do not support his own political dream - to have all of South America forced into a Socialist Republic, run by Argentina (despite the fact that he is supposedly Uruguayan/Swedish/Danish - you get the picture).
However, back to the thread. I wonder if Ghana will sent their Army and Navy to remove the crew of the ARA Libertad should they be foolish enough to wave their weapons at Ghanaian civilians again?
Of course, the Argentine government will try and play the victim again, but it will be well documented how the Argentine sailors broke the law.
Serving a prison sentence in Ghana probably wasn't on the minds of these sailors when they set sail from Argentina. I wonder how long they'd get for threatening behaviour and/or assault?
The Ghanaians are within their rights to ask for the Libertad to be moved to another part of the port.
Moving the Libertad has nothing to do with the pending case of Argentinian debt.
It would not harm Argentina to allow the vessel to be moved, it would show maturity on Argentina's part if they allowed the move.
The Ghanans do not own the ship, nor would they own it if they ruled in favor of the criminals. Since they own not the ship, they can't just jump on board and move it.
Bring on the Tin man and the Botox Queen.
nice post made me lol
192
who exactly gets upset?
Where does Mercopress publish from ?
You and the other trolls are an organised group, to spread misinformation to undermine the British and the Fslklands and further the goals of CFK.
Your 'opposition' are all independent, unlike La Campora trolls.
Conq. is lashing out at your anti-foreign, anti-Brit posts.
We have no control over him. Nor should we.
Speak to the Moderators.
:-)
Where does Mercopress publish from ?
don't insult the “peguins”
What proof do have ?
More of your theories with no basis on facts, again just childish rants and distractions.
Or is everything as usual and you need no proofs?
All MP has in Montevideo is a fax number.
Stop blaming my country for your biased views!!
FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You Suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nuff respec to agent999!!!!
Which one is it,
“Brits desperately wanting to BEFRIEND us ”
Or
“seeks the nuclear ANNIHILATION of the Land of Silver”
You Trolls are not working well together, today.
:-)
And 10 scores and 5 years later still does our fiend lurk on those shores, waiting for a weakness to strike. It is the nature of this nocuous force. This is why we must stand with even our wretched brother, never with the tramontane.
Are the crew getting tired of rations and candlelight. What will they do without Internet or the power to charge their phones.
44 crew ?? It must be as confining on Libertad (ironically “Freedom”) as it is for Assange at the Ecuadorian Embassy apartment in London.
Rats in a hole.
:-D
They can't just jump on board and move it.
Wanna bet.
They are just being polite..
.
You know, you are a pathetic piece of trash. Insulting servicemen, who are in fact only following orders. To call them rats, what have they done?
You coward, you wouldn't last an instant in a battle.
You show me the proof that MP are indeed British and run by Brits.
I can assure you I have no intention of befriending Malvanitas though I do have a soft spot for the people of Uruguay.
Just like Remembrance Day ceremonies.
They felt left out, but instead of honouring their own dead, and respecting others, they had to trash the Brits.
No respect,
no maturity,
No courtesy.
If they are killed Argentina can always refuse to take the bodies back and start launching a sovereignty claim for Ghana.
Even though the ship has not moved berths, it's still in Ghana, not Argentina.
The Argentinian military still have not worked out the knack of fighting succesfully against opposition which is armed and can fire back, so if the Ghanians move in military force, the Argentinians favourite military handsignal will be exercised-Manos Arriba!
“Eff u”
Is that what the “Sages” told you to say ??
Too bad their Commander in Chief of the Argentine Afmed Forces is sitting in comfort in her palace, while her loyal sailors suffer for her inaction.
Pay the bond, free the ship, return it to the Argentine people.
The enemy to the Navy is CFK, not vultures...
Just to show that this “Custom” of censoring Latin American comments is nothing new “in here”……:
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”128 Marcos Alejandro Sep 30th, 2010
Andres, after ”THINK” posted their site, they removed the name and telephone number of this company , now only fax and email is available.
This is clearly a british site link probably with their fish industry in the islands.
129 Ocampo_Andres
Well, up until now no one brought it up, now that they're found out it's a different story.
Edificio Acapulco - Juan B. Blanco 1265 Of. 102 …..
130 Marcos Alejandro
What a “kilombo” you started raising the question about who really is MercoPress.
131 Ocampo_Andres
haha well I'm from Rosario, where Che Guevara was from.
No one likes the truth when it's a dirty one.
132 Marcos Alejandro
Saludos and let's see if they removed our comments again…..”
en.mercopress.com/2010/09/24/cristina-blasts-uk-and-un-security-council-for-lack-of-progress-in-falklands-malvinas
I admire your pacience, but it feels a bit pointless if they censor us as soon as they can't keep up, especially regarding the fact that we'll have to talk about pies and people's whereabouts in order for them to keep up...
You do not have to post on this site if you do not wish.
We will happily discuss the news stories between ourselves, without any distractions or harrassing insults to the Brits (and friends).
Perhaps some 'real', thinking Argentinians will be more encouraged to post,ole 'Jimmy' and 'Patonuzu', recently.
I am sure they have much to tell us about the feelings of the people towards CFK.
BTW, what is the Contact info of La Campora and La Campora Juvenil ??
Does Maximo have “just a fax#” or can we phone him directly.
Please post a photo of their building - we'll pass it along directly to MI6.
You have no sovereign rights.
It’s not a historic claim but an absolutely present-time claim
So the Falklands in present-time, can claim Argentina.
General Assembly) which calls on all of us to begin sovereignty talks
Prove it, show us this document that states in English and or Spanish,
That specifically says [sovereignty]
The plundering of natural resources that do not belong to her
just like CFK does …
The UK is responsible for any ecological catastrophe
We always blame the British for every thing, because we are innocent, [CFK]
Censorship.
It’s not only the Argies that are censored.
Bla bla, says CFK its all mine all mine., we Argentinians can claim what we want , when we want , and from who we want , blab la .
Still,
When did the truth ever stop an ambitious Empire builder.
Chickybutter , chickybutter..
Add the fact that UK posters are free to abuse while SA posters are being censored (and yes, I have been reporting abusive posts, nothing happened) and I can assure you, MP is NOT Uruguayan, at all.
Weird, now you start posting empty comments... What for???
Don't you “Think” that El Pepe thought that things were “a bit pointless” at Punta Carretas?
Look where he is now ;-)
Indeed, you are right, but our battle is in SA, these mariposas are on a free fall, and the faster they fall, the louder they cry...
If you are from Uruguay,
You could just pop along to the MP address and knock on the door.
That should prove whether it is true or not.
Post your results on here, and let us all know.
*waits for excuses to start...*
I just got back home and the deadbeats look like they're squealing like pigs. WTF is wrong with you losers?
So Mercopress is our own site for our own purposes now? Think, the king of losers, is quoting shit going back to 2010 and Guzz the deadbeat has spent his entire day on this site. FFS, you fucking losers! Get a life you wankers.
I'm giving up on Mercopress as of tonight. NONE of my family or friends read it anymore. NOBODY in Stanley is discussing the chances of Argentina getting its hands on our islands anymore. We're secure and I have no more interest in reading the posts of shitty trolls.
I just read on one of these threads where either Guzz or TTT/ Tobias/ Dam / etc etc (they are both the same person as far as I can tell but they squeal like pigs if I say so) wrote something to the effect that we, the pro-Falklands posters think that other posters are non-genuine if they don't agree with our views. Then they claim Mercopress is British because it removes their posts. FFS!
Even more childish remarks, you poor persecuted posters.
The posts of yours that are deleted are the ones when you do not post in English -the deletion of your derogatory posts on the “Memorial service” article are understandable.
As far as your assurances “I can assure you, MP is NOT Uruguayan, at all.” - as usual you can provide no proof,
That’s cleared that little bit up,
Now what about this poor lonely abandoned little orphaned ship.
When are you guys going to take him home to Argentina .again.
.
so then, why not just let it drift? Casting off lines does not mean you have to board the ship does it?
Then, once it's released from the dock, tow it to wherever you want it, otherwise, just let it crash into a sandbank out of the way somewhere.
Go easy on MP....
The owner is a buen tipo, yoruga, and tocayo of yours...:-)
thats a good way of moving it,
and CFK cant complain about that.
Giving up already……; huhhhhhhhhh?
Quitter!
(242) Guzz
No pibe... No soy alcahuete.......
sussie insults and has to be removed,
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anyway, dont you have spannish sites like this,
and if not,,why not.
I think this issue is closed.
Guzz will never visit MB, and the sailors will be home just after Christmas, that's when the 90 day pay or seize period is up.
Of course, if CFK won't send Air FRANCE to pick them up, Singer may have to drop them at Guzzano's place in Montevideo.
A bit like Argentina abandoning and refusing to re-patriate the troops of the failed invasion force.
Will they be ' in disgrace' as well?
TROLL, your friend Guzz has put it on record, in previous posts, that ALL military personnel are beneath contempt and better off dead.
You guys should talk these issues over with Max or your supervisor, and decide what message you want to convey.
Off to the Remembrance Day Services now. Bye.
and these argies complain about their removal.
meoooowwwww
and tell us why you are being picked on.
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now see what you argies have done,
Think Briton, think....
Remember botija.....
This is the free Uruguay your parents and so many others fought for...
It is “His Agenda” and he has all the rigtht to have it.....
May we like it or not...............
So, as one of my Anarko-Boys in Scandinavia always tells me....
Chill out, du gamle.....
we know,
thats what they said about you lot.
“The Ghanaian Port Authority sought to assault the ship and relocate it by force, without a court order endorsing such behaviour”, the ministry said in a statement released late on Friday.'
FMTT .. you don't need a court order to shift a ship.... you simply tell the captain... 'we are shifting your ship'... nothing more.
Nemlig!
The real failure is the ineptitude of the Argentine diplomatic service and possibly the Admiralty in Buenos Aires. The ambassaress in Ghana should be closely monitoring the situation. What took her so long to sort the situation? Polishing her nails perhaps?
Andres Federman is also worth googling;-)
How could they 'cut out ' the fragata.... ?
'Here is the plan captain .. we disconnect your shore services and a harbour pilot comes on board... your crew take the tug's line... we let go your shore lines... when we get to your new berth we reverse that operation.'
They have just made themselves look very stupid and pissed orf the Ghanian people who previously couldn't have given a monkey's.....
These people are a bunch of vendepatrias!!!
That depends of which Country you consider your “Patria”........
I know 4th or 5th generation “Brits” down here in Chubut that always talk about “US” and “THEM”....
“US” being the British....
“THEM” being the Argentineans......
As you surely guessed by now, that's mine too.....
Damn, we lost big-time...
One day, friend... one day...
30 years ago, I “thought” it would take a century, at least........
Today, names as :
Hugo Ch.
Rafael C.
Ollanta H.
EVO M.
LULA
Dilma R.
Michelle B.
Cristina K.
And, last but not least, PEPE M.
Fill me with renewed optimism..............
We are getting there, still many obstacles in our way. Not only from within, but also from these infiltrators... At least now I know whom I'm dealing with.
We have always been dealing with the same ones................
True indeed, but they hide behind so many facades, sometimes it's hard to tell friend from foe...
We disagree absolutely about la Patria Grande.......
But I “Think” that we three quite agree about the Captain of the “Libertad”.
Thicko... why isn't Port William suitable as a site for the Falklands' new commercial port ?
“Thicko... why isn't Port William suitable as a site for the Falklands' new commercial port ?”
He wants it to be in Stanley, so that we can't park our new HMFI Thatcher , there.
Used to be called 'Freedom'
the flesh within is revaled as rotting away,
for those who vaunt of greatness with dismay,
are now shown to be a fraud, and cast away.
They removed my comments about the people behind MP.
I'm quite sure I didn't break the houserules...
Why would they do something like that?
;)
What comments of “yours” were deleted ?
Penguin News is an independent publication !
www.falklands.info/history/histarticle26.html
Interesting man Artigas, although he did hold many “Anglo” values and ideas
”Artigas admired the United States of America and was said to always carry a copy of the United States Constitution with him. He wanted the United Provinces of the River Plate government to be based on the same federalist ideas as the USA. These ideals went against what the Buenos Aires government of the time wanted (a centralized state; some even supported the idea of putting a European monarch in charge of the newly independent lands), but he managed to gain the support of some other provinces. Because of this, the Buenos Aires government supported the Portuguese invasion of the Eastern Bank.”
Much ado about colonialism, n'est-ce pas?
Are your comments really being removed or are you just posting the quip; Comment removed by editor?
www.gregpalast.com/the-globalizer-who-came-in-from-the-cold/
Is this just another of your conspiracy theories ?
Can you prove the affiliation to Penguin news ?
That don't prove nothing, are many John Fowler in English...
estimate/find , which comments are written from this web site employees .
Your link in no way proves the close affiliation between Penguin News and MercoPress that you are suggesting.
MercoPress will gather its information from many sources world-wide, it is a “news agency” and some will come from articles published by Penguin News, some from the BA Herald, and from of its many other sources.
You really are suffering from a persecution complex if you seriously believe anyone would delete your post just because it contains the link that you provided.
Guzz is setting up an artificial self-fulfilling prophecy by breaking a simple rule to create his desired reaction to his “challenge”.
If he had posted a translation, I'm sure it would be left alone.
Sorry Guzzano, very amateur, very transparent.
I, for one, have reported the post to the Editor, as inappropriate - “not being posted in English”
post is not in english, so it should be deleted!!!
jeeeeeeeeeeeejeeeeeeeeeeeeeejeeeeeeeeeeeee
yoů šwěpt Conqůěrěr and hiš all othěř naměš.
That is just what Guzz would want.
He knows the posting the link and the Spanish text would fall foul of the MP rules on posting in English.
Had he posted the link and an English translation his post would not be deleted, but he then would not be able to complain that MP is picking on him.
You say:
“Think.... They removed my comments about the people behind MP.
I'm quite sure I didn't break the houserules... ”
I say:
But; you did break the House Rules.................. The unwritten ones......
Listen, botija......
I had a very similar debate a long time ago in here.
At that time, many “Non Turnips” were arguing that this “Place” was “Independent” and “Unbiased”.......
After being properly linked and informed, those “Non Turnips” have kept very quiet about that “Issue”.....
As you can see today, only the “Real Turnips” believe this place to be “Independent” and “Unbiased”...
PS:
Did you read the news about Gardel?
Why did you post this publicly?
You could have just talked to each other in the next cubicle.
Or... maybe you in the same one ?!
Do you need any more “Proof” about how Guzz'es posts are being censored in here???
Read your own posts below (or above:-)
273 agent999 Nov 12th, 2012
@273 what comments did they remove ?
274 agent999 Nov 12th, 2012
MercoPress, in common with many others, deletes spam post like those advertising cheap counterfeit goods and there have been a few here recently.
What comments of “yours” were deleted ?
275 agent999 Nov 12th, 2012
like your comment @254 ?
Chuckle chuckle
I've been reading that guys posts. He was being very offensive. Just my thought.
Hi, GUZZANO
Really, you guys are real Abbott & Costello comedy team...
What a pair of amateurs !!
What a transparent pantomime !!!
LOL LOL LOL .. !!!!!
Hi Guzz,
you're not fooling anyone, silly bugger!
*retreats to his fantasy world*
Good for the sailors, when this is all over I hope some of them get elected to public office on Cristina's ticket =)
Guzz and Think, great conversation (at least the bits they left up that I could see!) =)
Water, electricity, fuel, everything's going on as it always did.
It's just a matter of time to release the Flagship.
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