Saturday, November 10th 2012 - 02:20 UTC

Argentine armed sailors prevent Ghana port officials from moving ARA Libertad

Armed sailors on board the detained Argentine ARA Libertad frigate in Ghana threatened to open fire on Ports and Harbours Authority (GPHA) officials, if they attempted to move the ship from berth 11 to berth six, at the Tema Port, according to reports of “The Chronicle” local newspaper.

Ghana solicitors defending the vessel argue the appeal implies “an automatic stay of execution” of seven days

Ghana Ports and Harbours Authority (GPHA) officials trying to speak with ARA Libertad Captain (Photo “The Chronicle” )

The Chronicle's investigations at the port revealed that the GPHA's action was a result of a motion they filed at the High Court, Commercial Division, for the frigate to be shifted from a commercial berth she had been occupying since 2 October 2012, when the detention order went into force.

For hours, the situation remained tense, until the Argentine Ambassador to Nigeria, also responsible for Ghana, Susana Pataro arrived at wharf to seek audience with the port officials to be allowed to get on board, but that did not materialize.

In the midst of the tense moments, the Flag officer Commanding (FOC) Eastern Naval Command, Commodore Akoto Bunso, came and intervened, and on Wednesday mid-afternoon the gangway was lowered, but as soon the envoy got on board, the sailors lifted it to its former position.

The ambassador remained on board the detained frigate trying to speak to the armed crew, who only laid down their arms later in the evening.

According to the GPHA authority, berth 11 at the Tema Port receives container vessels, and is considered one of the busiest quays, and for that matter, wanted her to be shifted to the nearby berth six, which is not part of the busy zones at the port.

However further investigations revealed that on hearing the directive, the managers of the vessel decided that they would not heed the order, and subsequently, their lawyer, Kizituo Beyuo from Fountain Chambers, wrote a letter to the GPHA indicating that the High Court, presided over by His Lordship Adjei-Frimpong, granted the GPHA motion for a variation of the order of injunction, which was granted on 2nd October, 2012.

“The court ordered that the defendant's vessel, Fragata Libertad, currently at berth 11, Tema Port, be moved and kept at berth six. The defendant has since appealed to the Court of Appeal against the decision of His Lordship Adjei-Frimpong.

“By rule 27(3) of the Court of Appeal rules CI 19, there is an automatic stay of execution of the order by His Lordship Adjei-Frimpong for a period of seven days, immediately following the giving of the judgment or decision.

“This letter is to draw your attention to the above provision, in order that you do not take any steps in furtherance the order appealed against, which will render our client's appealed nugatory.”

GPHA head Jacob Kwabla Adorkor, quoted by the Argentine media confirmed the incident lasted from 06:00 in the morning Wednesday to mid afternoon and admitted “we never expected the Argentines to point us with rifles; we expected them to act professionally; this is not a war, we carried no guns or munitions, we only wanted to talk to them”.

Adorkor denied port authorities had cut the electricity supply to the vessel, “they have their own generators” and contrary to reports in Buenos Aires pier six is only one kilometre away inside the port of Tema.

“What concerns us is not ARA Libertad’s debt, we are losing 60.000 dollars a day which other container vessels should be paying for operating in this busy part of the harbour”, added the Ghana official.

From Buenos Aires and Argentine Navy spokesperson said that “the situation is of complete normality. The vessel remains in the same pier from the very first day, October first and is waiting to receive further formal instructions”.

Regarding the incident Rear Admiral Daniel Alberto Martín said the commander of the frigate reported to the Tema port authorities that “the vessel will remain in that pier until it receives further instructions from the Navy for any movement to be made”.

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1 Ayayay (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 02:39 am Report abuse
Arg is repeating near exactly the late '70s
2 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 02:41 am Report abuse
She told you to f**k off in the only language you truly understand... No misunderstandings, right? ;)
3 Ayayay (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 02:47 am Report abuse
**As one result of pointing guns, Argentina went from a middle class country to a poor one.** It's like Groundhog Day.

At least we got our Jimmy Carter this time in the U.S.!!!
4 Pirate Love (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 02:50 am Report abuse
tut tut... isnt this militarization of another country yet again???
so argentina thinks pointing weapons will get what it wants, yet again?
they may be trouble ahead.....yet again.
5 Dam edge conTroll (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 03:00 am Report abuse
For the sages remark, that those with weapons shall alwayd speak of others with weapons from the heights of noetic dishonesty.
6 Ayayay (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 03:20 am Report abuse
The American South is so like LatAm in its military agression and backwards-facing.
7 St.John (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 04:28 am Report abuse
If the crew open fire on the Ghanaian port authority, it constitutes an act of war (ARA Libertad being a ship of war, right?) and they'll be wiped out.
8 surfer (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 05:21 am Report abuse
Really this shows a complete lack of leadership, leaving the crew in an impossible situation.

The govt. of Argentina seem to be sacrificing them for the sake of hubris.
9 reality check (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 07:25 am Report abuse
Not very clever resorting to arms, cut the power, cut the water cut the food and wait. Then charge them with threatening to kill Ghanaian officials.
10 Idlehands (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 07:35 am Report abuse
The feral child has now developed a biting habit. The world will take note.
11 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 07:55 am Report abuse
That is not the end of this one. That ship will be moved within days. They had no legal right to offer armed resistance to the port personnel. The individuals involved should be dragged off and charged by the local police.
12 slattzzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 08:17 am Report abuse
Good eh because your country's going down the tubes deny a poor country like Ghana 60000 dollars a day in income
13 reality check (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 08:23 am Report abuse
If there was not a Ghanaian military presence around this ship, I suspect there is one now.
14 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 08:27 am Report abuse
When CFK called her crew back and left the ship without a fuzz, you cried about her and her crewmembers not having the balls to protect their sovereignity. Now that the crew says “here, but not longer”, you cry because the Ghanese personnel aren't allowed on the ship at will.
You lot just want to cry, don't you?

15 reality check (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 08:36 am Report abuse
Threatening a civilian docker with a 7.62 FN is not defending your countries sovereignty, it's gross stupidity!!!
16 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 08:40 am Report abuse
You think he got the message?
17 Viva Las Falklands (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 08:43 am Report abuse
Militarily the Argies are as thick as S##t. If they fire one shot that 18th century style “warship” will be reduced to a cinder. The occupants of that ship are not sailors merely armed bandits.
Say your last prayers Argies.
18 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 08:47 am Report abuse
What are you going to do? Throw your keyboard at them? Twice?
19 Viva Las Falklands (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 08:54 am Report abuse
Oh dear hit a raw nerve Guzz.
As previously said in this thread it is pretty sure the Ghanaians have now brought in their Army near the ship and will not tolerate a group of armed bandits threaten their port officials. As always when Argies resort to military action they come off second best.
20 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 08:56 am Report abuse
16 Guzz

Oh he got the message alright but not a good message for Argentina. This is not going to end the way CFK is kidding nobody it is. I bet the ship is moved under the instructions of Ghana within a few days and this will be the last time the Argentine military is welcome inthe country.
21 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 09:21 am Report abuse
And what a welcome they recieved...
You think Arg will accept another of those invitations?
The world doesn't spin around your belly-button, Joe.
I got news for you, it never has...
22 Beef (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 09:34 am Report abuse
Argies are only brave when they have guns and the others don't. If the port athorities and coast guard decided to arm themselves in reaction to this naked agression then the Argies will either run away (perhaps swim) or cry not to shot at.

Even the Argie sailors lack a spine. I imagine the Argie trolls are proud of their sailors arming themselves and threatening unarmed officials.
23 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 09:35 am Report abuse
40-some military dead would be a fair price to pay for your moral suicide...
24 HansNiesund (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 09:51 am Report abuse

Life is cheap when you're sitting comfortably in Denmark, eh Guzz?

25 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 10:03 am Report abuse
@24 Hans

Guzz says he was “exiled” to Denmark er, umm Sweden, I think...

He now says he has“returned' to SA because, according to him, ” Gusanos are those who move to Europe or the US because they cannot live off others for free in SA“.

He implies he is in Uruguay, but its more likely he never leaves Argentina.

BTW, this one tough character with a strong moral fiber. ”Guzzano claims he was a brave Socialist fighting against the fascists in Operation Condor, in the 1970's.

That should make him 60-70 years old, by now. Do you think he shows that maturity ??
Look how calm BK is, and he's got to be in his 80's !
26 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 10:04 am Report abuse
Not at all, mate.
It hurts my soul every time I read about a child dead from UK/US firearms and bombs in the middle east...
27 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 10:07 am Report abuse
What soul ???

Oh, and whose “military dead”?
28 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 10:09 am Report abuse
21 Guzz

What makes you think I believe the world revolves around me?
29 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 10:10 am Report abuse
“Oh, and whose “military dead”?”

Anyones, the more, the merrier...
30 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 10:11 am Report abuse
Make no mistake. Guzz is simply another of TTT's tags.
31 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 10:13 am Report abuse
Whatever Joe, your arguments are always the same.
As soon as someone disagrees with you, they are TTT.
Told you, the world doesn't spin around your belly-button.
32 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 10:15 am Report abuse
...and what is my argument Guzz?
33 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 10:17 am Report abuse
“You are TTT”....
34 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 10:19 am Report abuse
@30 Joe

TTT was posting away about Libertad just now on Ghana News.

Same verbose style
35 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 10:22 am Report abuse
You're wrong. I've never used any tag other than Joe Bloggs. How about you? You can't even keep your story straight under the one tag. First you're in Uruguay, than Denmark now back in South America. You claimed you were old. Then last week you said you were in your twenties...

...and you reckon I think the world revolves around MY belly button. Ever been to cordoba Guzz? Deadbeat.
36 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 10:24 am Report abuse
The fact that you two need multiple accounts to proove your points has nothing to do with me. If it wasn't because of the fact that there are a bunch of lunatics defending your wicked views, threatening to kill people discussing on a thread, I would have no issues logging in with my facebook account. As it is, I have this account, and this account only. I even bide my time when posting and realising I forgot to answer someone addressing me, not wanting to create another account for quick answering. For you lot, I'm Guzz. What you call me, is your problem.
37 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 10:26 am Report abuse
Obviously there are different La Campora “operators” at different hours, working the Guzzano identity.

Not nearly as cool as “The Bourne Identity” so don't bother going there.
38 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 10:27 am Report abuse
The only reason you are so upset and ramble about multiple identities, is because you have no one yourself.
Fly on little butterfly...
39 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 10:34 am Report abuse
@38 Guzzano

Using the flippant “dismissal tactic” again, I see.

Did your operative “Pirat-Hunter” (ALEX VARGAS) get conked on the head or his teeth knocked out, outside the Consulate on N-8 ???

Was expecting some portrayals of graphic violence from him by now.
40 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 10:36 am Report abuse
Does this mean you are Poppy, yanquiboy, Ayayay, Tooold, Briton, LEP and Joe?

Because you lot seriously need to change the record...
41 LightThink (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 10:42 am Report abuse
I can not comment becouse i am French at this event.

** French word sometimes is used a jargon “ a man who knows nothing ”
42 slattzzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 10:43 am Report abuse
@35 don't forget he was a ship's engineer (cat) running out of Uruguay then a student in Sweden / Denmark. He will resort to kill more muslim women and children shortly sure as eggs are eggs
43 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 10:44 am Report abuse
Well my daughter just stole my ipad while I was making her breakfast. That's gratitude for you. I can't be bothered trying to find where one of the kids left the family laptop's lead which wasn't where they were when they let the said device run flat. I left my laptop in the office at work and can't be fagged to go and get that. So I am on very borrowed time on Mrs Bloggs's MacBook Pro while she's outside tending to the hens.

Guzz has actually helped me keep things in context. I don't have an issue with him or Argentines in general. I am simply a Falkland Islander who had his back up a little because the government of our nearest neighbour kept trying to use us as a distraction from her own problems. Actually I'm not concerned about our security...

Sorry. Mrs Bloggs is coming in through back door for her usual Saturday morning ritual of catching up with news and replying to emails whilst eating breakfast. Being on her beloved MacBook Pro on a Saturday morning after the hens have been tended to is suicidal.
44 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 10:48 am Report abuse
Sounds like your life is clocked mate... You sure you aren't conquerors Dr. Jekyll?
45 Britworker (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 10:53 am Report abuse
For someone who 'claims' to Uruguayan you seem so personally invested in the Argentine cause, not even the Uruguayan government is openly protesting what the Ghanaians are doing. After reading your posts on here I am satisfied that you are Argentine. Hopefully the Ghanaian military will shoot next time they raise their arms , they have probably been taking advice from the British Foreign office and know that if you fight back, the white flag very quickly follows.
46 slattzzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 11:10 am Report abuse
Easiest thing to do is. A. Cut off thier shore supply, it takes a lot of diesel to keep the lights on, galley running and electrical equipment running off generators, B. Disconnect them from the effluent barge or tanker that will be tending them for sewage etc, I don't personally know how much thier sewage treatment plant can hold but I bet it's not much, and it is illegal to discharge sewage directly overboard inside territorial waters (not that illegal will bother rgenweener) but believe me the ship will soon be stinking. C. Cut off fresh water supply from jetty, ships evaporators capability to make fresh water from sea water is greatly reduced when a ship is alongside and of course needs power from generator to make it happen which takes me back to A
47 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 11:24 am
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48 slattzzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 11:27 am Report abuse
Of course Guzz would have known all of my above being a ships engineer /:(
49 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 11:29 am Report abuse
12 nautic miles, mate. Indeed.
Still, they are 45 men on board. A ship of that size...
50 reality check (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 11:30 am Report abuse
Then again a couple of 20mm burst throught her rigging may have the desired effect, you know the sort of thing, put your pea shooters away you ferkin idjuts, ours are bigger than yours. When did they swap the old crew with Samuria Sailors? all eager to commit Hari Kari.
51 Britworker (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 11:32 am Report abuse
@ 47
One would suggest moral suicide is being one thing whilst purporting to be another. I rather think you have beat me too it.
52 ChrisR (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 11:33 am Report abuse
The sailors should be court marshalled and the captain reduced to the ranks or dishonourably discharged for this cowardly action. I realise that AG does not understand anything to do with the concept of honour.

But respect to the Ghanaians again for the tolerance shown to this bunch of idiots. Let us hope that they have placed armed guards and heavy automatic weapons close by in case of a repeat.

Despicable actions by the AG ‘Captain’.
53 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 11:33 am Report abuse
Only thing that is interesting is how you are viewed in the eyes of the world. Every moral vein-cutting from your side helps. If you ask me, even sinking Libertad, but then again, I'm not Argentine...
54 toooldtodieyoung (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 11:42 am Report abuse
At Last!!!! the REAL Argentina being shown to the whole world. Nothing more than a bunch of spoilt little children who think that waving guns around will change anything and get them their way.

If it wasn't so sad it would be funny. A nation bankurpt of EVERYTHING.

40 Guzz

“Because you lot seriously need to change the record...”

It hurts my soul every time I read about a child dead from UK/US firearms and bombs in the middle east...

Take a look at your own posts you idiot!! who needs to “Change the record?”

40-some military dead would be a fair price to pay for your moral suicide...

and then you talk of moral suicide!!!! Moral's are what the rest of the world has Guzz. As I pointed out in another post, Argentina is A-Moral. That is, it's not that they have any moral's, it's just that they don't know how to act Morally or even what moral's are.

Tell you what Guzz, from now on, leaving the thinking to the grown-ups would you? there a little lamb.............
55 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 11:47 am Report abuse
Grown-ups? you?
You bash Argentina should she surrenders without struggle.
You bash Argentina should she struggle to surrender.
You bash Argentina should she struggle and not surrender.
You bash Argentina for the sake of bashing Argentina.

How very mature of you...
56 slattzzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 11:47 am Report abuse
@49 with draft of only 6 metres, a hull length of 92 metres and a displacement of 6700 tonnes, with a full complement of nearly 350 people I would suggest that doesn't leave a lot of room for sewage treatment plants, however you'd be surprised how much crap 45 people can generate on a ship.
57 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 11:50 am Report abuse
Well slattzzz, I would just crap over the railing. No law against that...
58 lsolde (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 12:10 pm Report abuse
l would assume that by now, the Ghanian Army would have a battery of Artillery zeroed in on the Argentine ship.
Mmmmmmmmmmmmn, brandishing guns in someone else's country...........not a smart move.
But then, its not the first time for Argentina, is it?
59 slattzzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 12:12 pm Report abuse
@57 yeah i bet you would, I'd clean the railing when you've finished though, hate for someone to put thier hand on it.
60 Santa Fe (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 12:13 pm Report abuse
as long as the ghanayans wave a white flag the will be perfectly safe, unlike the British troops that were murdered when the RGs faked a surrender then opened fire.
61 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 12:14 pm Report abuse

“If you hear something late at night
some kind of straining
some kind of splash
just don't ask me what it was”

62 LEPRecon (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 12:18 pm Report abuse
@57 - Guzz

No doubt you would crap over the side of the ship - but their is a law against it whilst a ship is in port.

The Ghanaians would have to add environmental terrorism to the list of crimes against the Argentine Sailors.

Threatening behaviour
Refusing to obey a legal order
Environmental terrorism

Of course, if they were ever stupid enough to open fire, they would all be arrested and charged with attempted murder, or murder if they actually killed someone.

They still have the death penalty in Ghana...
63 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 12:19 pm Report abuse
Hahahaha LEP!!!
I'd love to see the specifics of that mentioned law :))))))))
64 Think (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 12:26 pm Report abuse
Latest telephonic update from the “Fragata Libertad”. (10/11/12, 09:30 Zulu Time)

1) Ship still moored at berth 11, port of Tema, Republic of Ghana.

2) Water, electricity and sewage services functioning normally.

3) Situation in the ship is of “absolute normality”, the Captain informs.
65 slattzzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 12:27 pm Report abuse
It's a shit law LOL :)
66 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 12:30 pm Report abuse
Of course Think, and the crew members are allowed to leave the ship at will, I'm just fooling around with these titwits...
67 slattzzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 12:43 pm Report abuse
@64 of course he would say that wouldn't he?
68 Think (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 12:46 pm Report abuse
(66) Guzz

Nope..... Nobody is allowed to disembark ship.....
All permissions to land have been revoqued by the Captain since Wednesday morning......

Please, keep fooling around with those titwits.....
I'm too old for it ;-)
69 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 12:49 pm Report abuse
Still friend, it's in the hands of the captain.

And I will, as soon as they post another stupidity.
On the contrary to what they believe, I'm doing this for plain fun :)))
70 yankeeboy (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 12:55 pm Report abuse
I am always surprised that Argentina seems to get away with things that civilized country would not dream of doing. I think most countries treat them like angry teenagers, who don't know how weak and stupid they really are.

This was a sophomoric act that will not go un-noticed. It would be quite embarrassing for RG Navy personnel to rot in jail in Africa.

BTW I see Obama is going to Ghana to show support for their growing democracy and rule of law. I wonder if he has any trips planned to Argentina...probably not

I wonder what is taking so long to repossess this ship... I wonder if Singer is letting it sit there and hoping for more embarrassing international incidents. Maybe, since time is on his side.
71 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 12:58 pm Report abuse
A visit from Obama means what exactly?
Your belly-button syndrome is alarming...
72 yankeeboy (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 01:09 pm Report abuse
Guzzie, Argentina can't get a meeting at State or Prez they knock and knock but no one answers. The are forced to take out op-eds and advertisements in US newpapers to try to get thier points across...
I bet it drives the hag crazy
73 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 01:15 pm Report abuse
You need to look at thing with a bit of perspective.
Obama is visiting you lot for another whole 4 years, and it's STILL not helping you, is it?
74 yankeeboy (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 01:25 pm Report abuse
Things are much better here than in EU UK or dun dun dun...Argentina. That is for sure.
I hate Obama, I worked against him but the people spoke and I will get along fine and I hope the rest of the USA does too. We will try again in anther 4 years.
The USA is a huge and very wealthy country it would take generations to end up like Argentina. Look how long it took them to go from 1st world to 3rd world 5-6 generations and they were no where near as rich as we are plus we work and make things not just live off what the land can produce and are at the whims of the weather for our survival.

Looks like the weather isn't cooperating too much this year. Isn't that what killed the Mayans?
75 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 01:28 pm Report abuse
“1st world” to “3rd world”? Argentina? How does one go from “1st world” to “3rd world”?

yanqui, you are so full of shit, a plomber would constantly pull your ears...
76 HansNiesund (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 01:32 pm Report abuse

So you'd just shit everywhere? Like you did in the Falklands, you mean?
77 yankeeboy (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 01:33 pm Report abuse

Actually I forgot right now Argentina is considered Frontier...but that won't be for very much longer.

Guzz do you have any idea how much U$ you get for a Patacone? You better find out. I have a feeling that what the December bonus will be made up of...
78 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 01:35 pm Report abuse
Only thing that will happen in December is the Clarin media grop being dissolved into clarinetes... itos, clarinetitos...
79 Pirat-Hunter (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 01:36 pm Report abuse
Finally the Argentine navy stood up and did what they are trained to do, protect Argentina's interests, let's hope when they pick up the anchors they head home as soon as they move anywhere. I am not sure uninvited guest can come on board of a ship, I could be wrong but it can be considered piracy in English nation, I am sure the guns pointing help everyone see the big picture better, guns is the only language English people understand.
80 yankeeboy (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 01:41 pm Report abuse
Guzz, Mark my words, save this post, December will be a fun, fun month to watch for fun fun!!
81 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 01:44 pm Report abuse
82 slattzzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 01:50 pm Report abuse
@79 thats right PH pointing guns at unarmed civilians, why not just get the quartermaster to say I'm sorry I cannot let you on board, this is Rg soveriegn territory, that's all they need to say no need to be pointing guns. Any Naval ship is soveriegn territory same as an embassy that's why you fly the flag on it, anyone who steps onboard by invite is then subject to the laws of the Nation the ship belongs to
83 Brit Bob (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 01:53 pm Report abuse
Is this the last throw of the dice by CFK and the Argentine Comedy club?
84 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 01:54 pm Report abuse

Your “Prez” isn't important enough for our “Prez”, so we send our embassador to deal with him instead...

As for last link, disregard it, here's the proper one:
85 yankeeboy (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 02:01 pm Report abuse
Huh? That picture was from when your Ambassador presented his credentials, just about every Ambassador gets his pic with the Prez at that time so I have no idea what are you talking about?
Plus the article was talking about how Uruguay is DESPERATE to sell more into the USA. DESPERATE.
I wonder if they'll sign an FTA next year?
Uruguay will NEVER been large or relevant enough to have a State Visit. Never.
Good gracious what kind of delusional world do you live in?
86 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 02:06 pm Report abuse
Bush came last time around and licked our arses...
87 yankeeboy (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 02:12 pm Report abuse
yeah on a multi-state tour what? I don't know where you think you are going with this?
If you are trying to say Uruguay is relevant to the USA you'll never prove your point.
I am sure we would LOVE to set up a base there though. I wonder if that is part of the FTA agreement....
88 reality check (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 02:19 pm Report abuse
I seriously doubt that these rifles were actualy loaded with live ammo. I can not believe that any Captain, would risk an ND killing a Ghanaian civilian, don't forget, he ordered this action and would be responsible for any subsequent actions, including murder, so he too would face charges.
89 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 02:19 pm Report abuse
I could not care less for USA, and I sincerely hope Uruguay isn't relevant for that doomed nation.
That particular FTA agreement you are mentioning... You´'ve been talking about that since February. There is no evidence of such agreement whatsoever, just another one of your foolish predictions... Get it, we don't want any FTA's with you lot, and if you are in such a hurry to get one, talk to Mercosur.
90 yankeeboy (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 02:26 pm Report abuse
Guzzy, The FTA has been done for a long long time. It was put on hold by the inept drunk commie currently running Uruguay. A little googling will show you what I am talking about.
I think there are a couple US Senators that want to see it get back on track and your Ambassador is falling all over himself to get it done.
As MercoSur is failing and Uruguay sinks along with Argentina I can see the drooling over the USA market is starting again.
Eyes wide shut guzzy eyes wide shut
91 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 02:31 pm Report abuse
Latest news on your “visions”

Stop talking crap, yanqui... I'll admit you are good at it, but it serves you no purpose...
92 Pirat-Hunter (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 02:32 pm Report abuse
Does the US navy or British navy face charges for pointing guns at pirates? Because an illegal boarding is the same as piracy, or does the law only count for English people.
93 yankeeboy (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 02:35 pm Report abuse
Guzzy I saw that article a long time ago but guess what, its November. Lots has changed since April hasn't it? I think that was a bit before the hag shut off imports and the U$..isn't it?
Lot's has changed....
Don't worry you'll like it just look at Chile they've had an USA FTA for years and they seem to be doing quite well. Better than most I would say.
94 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 02:38 pm Report abuse
Show me what has happened, yanqui.
And not only inside your head, out in the real world.
Feel free to post anything that backs your words, fool.
Tell you what, you can't, because in the alternative reality of your, CNN has no coverage.
95 yankeeboy (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 02:45 pm Report abuse
The biggest thing that has changed is the ability of Uruguay's neighbor to spend U$ in their country.
Don't you think they are a bit worried about this? Uruguay is very dependent on a good summer season, whole towns exist solely for this purpose.
MercoSur has not worked for them, Argentina is a HORRIBLE HORRIBLE trading partner and even your inept commie Prez is looking for alternatives.
The FTA is done, maybe there are a few details to iron out yet but it will happen sooner than later. It does require Uruguay to abandon MeroSur though...that'll be a blow to CFK and her papi Chavez.
And it won't be on CNN, Uruguay is too small and barely anyone has ever heard of it in the North.
96 Zhivago (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 02:47 pm Report abuse
92 Pirat
Yes, the law only counts for English people, or better said it only counts for people who could actually back up their threats. How long do you think your ship will last, a good SWAT team could take them out, if there are any retired SAS in Ghana I'm sure one or two of them could take the ship in under an hour. Poor deluded little busboy.
97 Dam edge conTroll (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 02:50 pm Report abuse
Violence and war is the currency of the Bankrupt.
98 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 02:51 pm Report abuse
First it was our “Prez” hindering, now it's Mercosur... You know what, yanqui? All I hear is bla, bla, bla and a twisted version of reality.

We want no FTA with you
Mercosur doesn't want an FTA with you
CELAC doesn't want anything to do with you

But hey, in your head, we are this -| |- close to a trade agreement...
Keep dreaming fool...
99 yankeeboy (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 02:55 pm Report abuse
Are you a little dumb? Yes your commie Prez put it on the back burner when he was elected AND the MercoSur agreement would have to be nullified to do an FTA with USA. Two actions same reality.
I didn't say they are close I said the FTA was already written, negotiated and done....can you read your own links?
Just let it happen you'll like it.
I promise
100 Dam edge conTroll (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 02:57 pm Report abuse
Freedom trade between slave and slave owner still lacks freedom.
101 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 03:01 pm Report abuse
So proove your words. Is it so difficult?

By the way, Uruguay was a member of Mercosur long before Mujica became President. At no point has his decision decided the outcome of a fantasy FTA with the USA.
102 yankeeboy (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 03:03 pm Report abuse
Did you not read your own link? It proves MY point retard.
103 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 03:06 pm Report abuse
“Under the Mercosur agreement, this is probably about as close as Uruguay will come to a FTA with the US, unless the Free Trade Area of the Americas somehow becomes a reality.

Argentina and Brazil have been criticized for promoting protectionist policies to the detriment of Uruguay and Paraguay, the two considerably smaller Mercosur nations. Uruguayan Vice President Danilo Astori went so far as to say in March that “Argentina completely ignores the Mercosur treaty and spirit.”

Despite growing disillusionment with Mercosur among the people of Uruguay, it’s unlikely that the country will leave Mercosur. In fact, President Jose Mujica has promised to “fight to the death” for the future of Mercosur.

In the end, Mercosur’s restrictions on bilateral trade agreements will present the greatest hurdle to establishing a full-blown FTA between the US and Uruguay.”

What in there prooves your point?

That Mujica doesn't want any FTA with you? Indeed
That Mercosur doesn't want FTA's with you? Indeed
That Uruguay isn't leaving Mercosur? Indeed
That you are a charlatan? Indeed

Your point is?
104 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 03:12 pm Report abuse
Try to stay calm Guzz. Remember what happened a couple of months ago when you started losing it like this. You ended up throwing all of your toys out of the pram and hurling abuse at everyone. Then you went through a series of Mercopress tags and also tried to tell us that you were part of some sort of organised team gathering evidence against the West or some shit like that and that you'd gathered enough evidence to bring the whole lot down on our heads. It wouldn't happen until March you said. Need I go on?

Chuckle chuckle.
105 slattzzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 03:14 pm Report abuse
Does the US navy or British navy face charges for pointing guns at pirates? Because an illegal boarding is the same as piracy, or does the law only count for English people.
Right dickhead let me explain, the clue is in your stupid statement. We point guns at pirates because.........................wait for it ...............they're fuckin pirates the word pirate you should understand, if they boarded and took away an Rg tanker would they be pirates then, of course they would you dick, pirates don't care who's ship they target including YOURS. They board tankers and anything else with AK47's and take hostages for ransom, nationality does not matter to them Rg, British, Us, Russian, Afghan, they don't give a fook mate . So where is your fuckin Navy protecting the innocent...........................oh sorry I forgot. I really hope one of your tankers is next that the Pirates board and hold to ransom and see your pathetic response, you'll probably blame us for not protecting them enough, you pathetic fool
106 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 03:16 pm Report abuse
What on earth are you on about now, Joe?
I remember abusing everybody indeed. It was after my first encounter with conqueror, after he promised to kill me...
The rest of it, please post me a link to refresh my memory. What will happen in March?

And what are you chuckling about???
107 yankeeboy (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 03:17 pm Report abuse
Let me say it again cause it appears you are a bit thick...

Guzzy I saw that article a long time ago but guess what, its November.

Lots has changed since April hasn't it? I think that was a bit before the hag shut off imports and the U$..isn't it?
Lot's has changed....

Uruguay is getting squeezed, panicked, scared...the ol drunk commie chose the wrong sides now he's looking to switch again...or do you think he is too dumb?
108 Dam edge conTroll (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 03:17 pm Report abuse
Military hubris is at the bottom of the list when all other sources of pride for a society have been extinguished or been fretted away.
109 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 03:20 pm Report abuse
What has changed?
Actually, lets forget about proofs and lets go to the root of the problem. Your head.
What is it in your head that makes you believe your drivel? No proof needed, just try to form one (1) single sentence that talks about what actually has changed and not about the fact that it happened. Your move.
110 yankeeboy (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 03:26 pm Report abuse
Maybe after 3 posts you'll understand...
Lots has changed since April hasn't it? I think that was a bit before the hag SHUT OFF IMPORTS and the ABILITY OF RGS TO SPEND U$ IN URUGUAY..isn't it?
Does that help?
111 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 03:34 pm Report abuse
That's your proof of Uruguay signing an FTA with the USA???


I'm not sure you are keeping up, Pepe offers the Arg tourist to shop tax free in order for them to continue spending cash in Uruguay. Nodoby ever mentioned an FTA with USA as a counter-measure...

And I'm the retard? Lol...
112 yankeeboy (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 03:40 pm Report abuse
You have no idea what is going on....yep retard.

Eyes wide shut, eyes wide shut.
113 Conqueror (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 03:41 pm Report abuse
I think this is fun. The crew of a vessel for which the argie “government” specifically waived immunities face local authorities with loaded weapons. Surely the article's headline should be something like “Argentine Military Maniacs Respond to Port Officials with Armed Resistance”? As I recall, Ghana has 2 light infantry battalions, an infantry regiment, an armoured regiment and an artillery regiment in close proximity. So this should be quite simple. Move up the artillery regiment and zero in the guns. Move up the armoured regiment for the frontal approach supported by the infantry. From the seaward side, anything available. Ghana does have a number of military helicopters from which to drop grenades and the like. In the old days, the greatest dangers for the crews of wooden wind-powered vessels were falling masts and splinters from the woodwork. Hopefully, the Port of Tema has salvage equipment. So, open fire and cut the masts off in 10-foot sections. Having masts, yardarms and the like crashing around their heads and through the deck should cause argies to re-assess the situation. Bring the sights lower. Shells smashing through the gunwhales and the felled masts could be quite good. Bring the sights a little lower. More or less horizontal to smash straight through the hull. And at what cost? 15 argie bodies. Which can be tossed overboard and “lost”. The other 30 will “surrender”. Bawling, crying, defecating, frightened, grizzling, peeing, puking. trembling, wanking (last time). Could there be “wounded”? Nah. If it's not dead, make it dead. Give the colonialists a taste of the “old days”. Spears. Decapitation. And, just to round out a proper appreciation of argie attitudes, impalement. It is important that all this is videoed. CFK will want the DVD. Off stage right: Hysterical British and Falkland Islands laughter! And the cost? 45 argie criminal pirate corpses. It's all good!
114 slattzzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 03:42 pm Report abuse
@111 Guzz just have to say have you decided if your Rg, Uruguyan, Swedish, or Danish yet, in your 50's ex ships engineer or still a 20 year old student living in northern europe? Just asking!!
115 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 03:45 pm Report abuse
It's not my decision slattzzz, it never was.

Obviously I don't have a single clue what is going on in your head, on that we fully agree...
116 toooldtodieyoung (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 03:45 pm Report abuse
111 Guzz

Yes, yes you are.........

The very fact that you even had to ask the question proves it.
117 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 03:47 pm Report abuse
You know what the “3rd world” is now, don't you?

Guess you were in a bit of a doubt until a retard came along ;)
118 toooldtodieyoung (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 04:19 pm Report abuse
Oh son, son, son!!

I've always known, I just like watching you, telling your lies and playing your usual game of trying to answer a question without answering a question.

The ONLY thing that you appeared to achieve is now everyone on this site KNOW's that you are a liar and can not carry an arguement in a bucket.

So why don't you answer slattzzz @ 114 huh? we will start from there.
119 Dam edge conTroll (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 04:20 pm Report abuse
Never has a xenial leader outlasted a chary despot.
120 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 04:22 pm Report abuse
Again you are involving your family matters into these threads...
I want none of it, and if your son is refusing you, respect him.

My personal life has nothing to do with these threads either, so drop that as well.
121 Foxtrot Indigo (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 04:42 pm Report abuse

In a different article you said that all persons of the military should be buried alive and eaten by worms but when your sailors take up arms against unarmed port officials you support them? Double standards much?
122 yankeeboy (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 04:45 pm Report abuse
Awhile ago I proved that it is mathamatically impossible to have 3 RG retournados with Nordic backgrounds that speak English and know about MP.
But he still likes to play his games...
123 toooldtodieyoung (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 05:07 pm Report abuse
120 Guzz

have you decided if your Rg, Uruguyan, Swedish, or Danish yet, in your 50's ex ships engineer or still a 20 year old student living in northern europe?

Can't or won't........................?
124 Think (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 05:20 pm Report abuse
(122) Yankiboy

You say:
A while ago I proved that it is mathamatically impossible to have .. blah,.... blah...., blah...

A shorter while ago (at comment 85) you said...:
“Uruguay will NEVER been large or relevant enough to have a State Visit. NEVER.”

I say:
Isn't that George W. Bush we see on the video below during his State Visit to Uruguay some 5 yeaars ago?

You are a true “Doomsday Prepper”... Funny to watch but... What a Waco!
125 toooldtodieyoung (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 05:35 pm Report abuse
124 Think

It doesn't count, George W. Bush was a joke, the party that spawned him was a joke, they continue to be a joke and they always WILL be a joke.

Hey, it's a bit like KFC!! / TMBOA / Ol' Turkey Neck / The Harpy!! oh and Laughing boy Timerman!!! only with them, there is no punch line.
126 slattzzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 05:39 pm Report abuse
ah think who are you today?
127 Think (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 06:28 pm Report abuse
(125) toooldtodieyoung

You say that President George W Bush State Visit to Uruguay on 2007 was a joke?
Was President Johnson State Visit to Uruguay on 1967 a joke too?
Was President Eisenhower State Visit to Uruguay on 1960 a joke too?
Was President Roosevelt State Visit to Uruguay on 1960 a joke too?

It just shows the total ignorance of certain Anglo turnips in here ....
128 ElaineB (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 06:29 pm Report abuse
Guzz/TTT/*insert name here* will say anything just to argue. He enjoys the attention.
129 Santa Fe (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 06:39 pm Report abuse
Haha and he's distracted the posters from the main discussion as per usual. he will eat like a king tonight thanks to Le Campora, well done multiple personality trolls well done. I particularly liked Guzz & Think The two troll personalities pretending to interact, I suppose you need two computers log on and bingo. Jajajajaja
130 slattzzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 06:46 pm Report abuse
one question ...why do you keep changing your sign ins, if you where serious about an arguement why be embarrassed by your name, losing or not, if you have a point of view then so be it, have the courage of your convictions at least, nonones going to turn up at your door and punch your lights out are they? Why pretend to live in Sweden/Canada or whatever, why pretend to be something your not or never have been if you've nothing to back up your arguements why bother
131 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 06:46 pm Report abuse
128 ElaineB

Spot on. Yet he says I think the world revolves around myself. Geez, give me a break Guzz. Count up the posts on these threads. You've got to be running at 3:1 to anyone else.
132 slattzzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 06:55 pm Report abuse
@131 he lives in Plymouth hence the name
133 yankeeboy (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 06:57 pm Report abuse
Think, OF COURSE Uruguay would give the USA a State dinner/welcome but the USA will NEVER give Uruguay one. Surely you can see the difference without too much explanation right?
134 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 06:58 pm Report abuse
132 slatzz

So far he is running at about 32% on this story. So almost in and three posts on here are in the name Guzz. God knows how many posts on here in total are written by the deadbeat behind that tag. I'm pretty sure three are only about 3 regular posters on the Argentine side in total.
135 Dam edge conTroll (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 07:01 pm Report abuse
Guzz is guzz, TTT is in the heavens, and I am me.
136 slattzzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 07:03 pm Report abuse
@134 crikey that many, guzz is from plymouth, wind up merchant, not very good though
137 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 07:07 pm Report abuse
135 Like I said. God knows how many posts if you add up all of the tags that the one guy is using.
138 slattzzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 07:13 pm Report abuse
Golf Uniform Zulu Zulu Plymouth dockyards international callsign
139 Dam edge conTroll (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 07:16 pm Report abuse

I am not Guzz, that is all I can say.
140 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 07:16 pm Report abuse
138 slatzzz

Okay, now I see what you're on about. I'm not familiar with those call signs. My bread and butter ones are of a different variety.

Was DamfuckingannoyingTroll the deadbeat that came on here about a week ago and said he wanted to have a UK experience? I knew from the very first post he was just a born-again deadbeat with big feet and a small dick.
141 ElaineB (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 07:17 pm Report abuse
From his posts we know he had to leave education early, lives in his mama's house, is very angry at the world, hates himself, has no voice in the real world and comes here because he gets a lot of attention. NPD, much.

The only puzzling part is his language. He sounds more British than Argentine.
142 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 07:22 pm Report abuse
141 ElaineB

It's good fun winding the deadbeats up whoever they are. Been away much lately? I'm enjoying 3 short weeks at home before heading off again the week after next. Last trip for the year, touch-wood.
143 Dam edge conTroll (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 07:24 pm Report abuse
Don't become a detective Bloggs, just friendly advice.
144 ElaineB (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 07:27 pm Report abuse
@142 I am in the middle of a short trip - just five weeks. Weirdly I only have a little work spread out across the continent and a lot of free time on this one. : ) But I am using the free time to meet up with much neglected friends.

I shall be heading back to SoAm in January. I am kind of hoping Argentina won't be on the itinerary as my friends there are feeling very uneasy about the escalating situation. But that might just be a good reason to go....

Enjoy your time at home.
145 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 07:28 pm Report abuse
Don't get business cards Dam. You wouldn't be able to afford it. Just friendly advice.
146 slattzzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 07:30 pm Report abuse
@143 just a word of advice at least try to change your tone or the way you put sentences together otherwise you'll end up seeming as thick as Sussieus/pro arg, and the rest of them
147 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 07:35 pm Report abuse

I was in South America a week or so ago but not Argentina. I hope you enjoy seeing your friends. Those sorts of trips are good and bad at the same time. It's nice to have some time off and catch up with friends but they make the total time away add up. Do you go to Central America/ Carib region much? I feel like I spend half my life there.
148 Dam edge conTroll (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 07:35 pm Report abuse
For the sages note the irony, in that I have not spoken but soft words for weeks now, yet the collective hatred remains. And all which hatred engenders, lies, deceipt, myopia, paranoia, festers like a tumid excrescence of the lowest velleities of a creature risen from apes.
149 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 07:44 pm Report abuse
We don't hate you. We think you're one of the funniest deadbeats on here. Stop changing names though. Grow some balls and stay there and take it. You are always claiming that you have us all at your mercy and play us three or four at a time. YOu obviously don't feel like that though. Otherwise you wouldn't keep running away like a cry baby.

BTW, how's the big case you've worked up against us going? Remember? The one that will be realised around March next year? Come to think of it, no wonder you changed names again.
150 Furry-Fat-Feck (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 07:46 pm Report abuse
@23 Guzz (#)
Nov 10th, 2012 - 09:35 am

As long as it isn't your death eh Guzz?
151 ElaineB (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 07:48 pm Report abuse
@147 For work? Mostly South America, second is USA and occasionally Central America, though I think that may become more frequent in the future. I hope so.

I have become used to the nomadic lifestyle and have built social networks in the countries I visit regularly, so I just slot back in wherever I am. It takes a bit of work though.

@148 Nope. Did not notice.
152 Dam edge conTroll (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 07:53 pm Report abuse
To the blind you shower pity, to the blind for having their eyes closed you shower something far worse for a fate: the unbereable punishement of disregard.
153 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 08:04 pm Report abuse
151 Yep, for work. I think one good measure of a friend is someone whose place you can turn up to and just waltz in and help yourself in their kitchen. I have friends like that in 8 different countries. Some of my friends at home find that a strange concept to grasp and I guess it is. I get sent invites to all sorts of dinners and parties all over the world and it always amazes the hosts AND ME how many I can turn up for.

I've got to stop the travel in another year or two though because it is starting to become a drag.
154 BritishguyfromLondon (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 08:05 pm Report abuse
Argentine diplomacy triumphs once again...

(I'd bet everything I own that if sailors from a British ship did this then all of the Argentines leaping to the crew's defence here would be condemning them as aggressive, militarising pirates...)
155 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 08:08 pm Report abuse

Do you think TTT's work just gave him his 2013 diary?
156 Dam edge conTroll (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 08:09 pm Report abuse
For the sages tell, those who stop fighting for justice are conquered by injustice the very next moment.
157 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 08:11 pm Report abuse
@127 Think/Guzzano

3 Presidential “whistle-stops” while in South Anerica.

All that was half a century ago !!

They are not even on the radar, now.

Anyway, Uruguay has nothing to do with it.

The “Guzz” identity really lives in and for, Argentina.

Guzzano, we don't care where you live.
The point is, we show these these inconsistencies to demonstrate that you are full of shit, and your story changes to suit the circumstances.

When that becomes too obvious, you choose another incarnation.
158 Dam edge conTroll (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 08:14 pm Report abuse
For home is not your dwelling of body, it is your state of mind.
159 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 08:16 pm Report abuse
Guzz hasn't come on here since I pointed out that 1 in 3 posts on this thread (as at post 131) were his. He is now holding his breath for the rest of his life and when he finished that he'll be back on here. Either that or he has just put the Guzz tag on hold for the rest of tonight.

Meanwhile TTT is up to Mid-February already in his new 2013 diary. Keep reading TTT, you're really impressing us all immensely.
160 Dam edge conTroll (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 08:19 pm Report abuse
Preening is but for the weak, lest the weak in humility become better than most of us.
161 ElaineB (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 08:25 pm Report abuse
@155 Quote-a-day toilet paper?

Yes, I think another five years tops and I shall have to take another route. I still love the travel - apart from the usual annoyances -, meeting new people, a fresh city to explore, and I don't want to lose than.
162 Dam edge conTroll (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 08:29 pm Report abuse
As the sages wisdom, to cursty as a claque transforms even the most sequacious of thinkers into a cynosure of freedom.
163 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 09:04 pm Report abuse
You sure you aren't Elaine?
I mean, after midnight... It makes sense, both spit useless drivel and your strongest argument is “you are someone else”...

Lets play your game, lets talk about who we assume everybody else is, at least it's a conversarion you lot can keep up with...
164 slattzzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 09:06 pm Report abuse
guzz now becomes dam edge con troll bless him
165 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 09:15 pm Report abuse
And you are the other character here, of 2 in total from your side. Namely slattzz/Poppy/yanqui/Ayayay/conqueror.
166 ElaineB (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 09:22 pm Report abuse
@163 Awwwww. Not the centre of attention?

Where is it after midnight? Not here.
167 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 09:24 pm Report abuse
Joe, why have you changed alias then??
168 Welsh women are ugly pigs (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 09:27 pm Report abuse
Now they are finally pulling out their guns like real soldiers, yet I am waiting for legal actions if this really occurred. Soon they will be lying in a comfy Ghanaian prison.
169 TipsyThink (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 09:31 pm Report abuse

You coùld not hit(reach) somè nàmes from onè side.

morè càrefùl plèase....
170 toooldtodieyoung (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 09:36 pm Report abuse
The thing is........ we are agreed that ARA Libertad doesn't have any fuel and so, even if they wanted to, they can't move right?

No one actually has to go on board do they? they just cast off the lines from the dock side and have a couple of tugs standing by to push ARA Libertad anywhere they want it to go right?

The sailors can't shoot anyone cause they are not boarding the vessel and if they don't want to find themselves stuck on a sandbank somewhere then they have no choice but to comply.

I can not believe the Ports and Harbours Authority are handling them with kid gloves.... It's their Port, their rules and if the ARA Libertad doesn't want to comply then shove them on a sandbank out of the way.
171 TipsyThink (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 09:39 pm Report abuse

Do i whisper who ís who ? oné can heár .
172 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 09:50 pm Report abuse
They are like the musketeers with a twist, instead of all for one, it's all IN one...
173 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 09:55 pm Report abuse
The Fragata ARA Libertad will shortly be moved under the instructions of the port authorities.

Do you deal with politicians, diplomats and senior civil servants in your line of work? I suspect you do. I do and this story reminds me of so many of the characters I have met over the years in various places. The amount of hours people will be spending on this will be enormous. What a waste of time all because of the financial pickle CFK has let them get in.

Does anyone know if other assets such as Tango 1 are confined to Argentina only?

Chuckle chuckle.
174 toooldtodieyoung (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 09:58 pm Report abuse
172 Yo, Deadbeat

Still not going to answer the question then?
175 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 09:59 pm Report abuse
They are 3 people on the islands and they ask eachother what they do for a living on an internet forum...
176 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 10:02 pm Report abuse
175 Guzz

I've no idea who ElaineB is and as far as I know she lives in the UK when she isn't travelling the globe like I myself do.

What do you do for a living?
177 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 10:05 pm Report abuse
Elaine is you after midnight, Joe. No reason to hide it anymore, your cover is exposed

178 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 10:16 pm Report abuse
I'm off out to dinner with Mrs Bloggs shortly so I'll catch you all some other time.
179 Guzz (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 10:19 pm
Comment removed by the editor.
180 briton (#) Nov 10th, 2012 - 10:48 pm Report abuse
For foreign armed men, military or not, to use or threaten to use, on their [Ghana’s] soil,
Could be grieved as
1, and act of war,
2, an act of aggression,
3, an act of terrorism,
4, an act of piracy,
We don’t know how or what the Ghanaians will do,

But we think you will find, they have a right to,
1, open fire in response,
2, board the ship and shoot/arrest,
3, send a warning to CFK to inform them to disarm, or an act or aggression, it may be…..
4, Conflict , very doubtful, but the next move could probably up to CFK.
Just an opinion.

181 gustbury (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 03:35 am Report abuse
Argentine saylors haves EGGS!! 113@ Conqueror haven't!! .He's a coward behind the keyboard!
182 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 05:20 am Report abuse
@181 Gusty

Sussie ???

183 Santa Fe (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 08:45 am Report abuse
Guzz Posts.... What do you think about this post THINK....guzz frantically logs on to his second account....THINK....I am in total agreement with you guzz!!!, Jajajajajajaja the lonely world of an Internet troll..what's for tea mam?????
184 Guzz (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 08:58 am Report abuse
Someone lefthanded got upset with my post at 179

185 toooldtodieyoung (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 10:35 am Report abuse
176 Joe Bloggs

It's no use asking Deadbeat what he does for a living, he can't even answer a simple question about where he's from.
186 Yuleno (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 10:37 am Report abuse
And yankeeboy pontificates more imagery from his dark imagination.Doom for uruquay and magical gifts for paraquay.
Such colourful myths.
187 Guzz (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 10:51 am Report abuse
First off, tell me where YOU are from

Deadbeat ;)
188 Conqueror (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 02:33 pm Report abuse
@119 Let's get down to your level. You don't have the intellectual capacity of a brain-dead turd. As far as I can tell you utter your most profound comments when you fart. Must be interesting when you ARE a fart. Suggestion: F*** off! Become a useful argie. DIE!!
@127 At it's current level, the last important “visit” that Uruguay had was the Admiral Graf Spee in 1939.
@135 Does that mean that you're a “real” faggot?
@141 You have to understand differences. In Britain there is a tiny minority of putrid wankers. B_K is an example. An offering from the Slimy Necrophiliac Ponces. In argieland, these “things” are the 99.7% majority. Going to prove that sh*te sticks together!
@148 Have you tried intelligence and English?
@162 You're trying to appear intelligent, aren't you? Bit of advice. Not working!
@165 Whoops! Wrong. Thick Guzzle!
@181 Oh dear. An argie, queer faggot with delusions of grandeur. Trust me, I have no reservations about ripping/cutting your head off, shoving it down a toilet (face up, mouth open) and crapping on/in it. Would you like to volunteer to (sit) on my 8-foot steel stake? Think of the pleasure to be felt as it works its way up. And the uncertainty. Will it come out of your mouth? Your nose? Your eye? The top of your head? And all self-lubricated!
189 LEPRecon (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 02:36 pm Report abuse
@185 - toooldtodieyoung

Well I know where Guzz is from. He's from Argentina.

However, he's so embarrassed to be an Argentinian that he swears blind that he is a Uruguayan/Swedish/Dane.

He is also a marine engineer/a student or more likely unemployed, spitting on the very hands that feed him.

He is also a 70 year old 'twenty-something', with an obvious poor memory, because he can't keep up with his own lies.

He is also brilliant at English grammar and often points out when other posters get their spelling or grammar wrong, but gets upset when his own failings in that area are pointed out to him.

He also hates the military, whilst at the same time supporting dictatorships, and a socialist who states on minute that he respects life (constantly mentioning how the evil British and Americans are killing women and children in Afghanistan), but supports the setting up of concentration camps to dispose of all those who do not support his own political dream - to have all of South America forced into a Socialist Republic, run by Argentina (despite the fact that he is supposedly Uruguayan/Swedish/Danish - you get the picture).

However, back to the thread. I wonder if Ghana will sent their Army and Navy to remove the crew of the ARA Libertad should they be foolish enough to wave their weapons at Ghanaian civilians again?

Of course, the Argentine government will try and play the victim again, but it will be well documented how the Argentine sailors broke the law.

Serving a prison sentence in Ghana probably wasn't on the minds of these sailors when they set sail from Argentina. I wonder how long they'd get for threatening behaviour and/or assault?
190 agent999 (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 02:52 pm Report abuse
Argentina is doing itself no favours with these stupid childish actions.

The Ghanaians are within their rights to ask for the Libertad to be moved to another part of the port.

Moving the Libertad has nothing to do with the pending case of Argentinian debt.
It would not harm Argentina to allow the vessel to be moved, it would show maturity on Argentina's part if they allowed the move.
191 Conqueror (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 03:44 pm Report abuse
This needs to be approached in a calm, controlled, intelligent manner. Shoot the stupid, argie bastards. They will not be missed. (Double entendre?) Is there anything argie worth retaining? No! Scorched earth followed by British colonisation.
192 Guzz (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 03:48 pm Report abuse
The very fact that you get upset with me all while this mentally illness in form of conqueror runs loose, speaks volumes :)))
193 Dam edge conTroll (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 05:26 pm Report abuse

The Ghanans do not own the ship, nor would they own it if they ruled in favor of the criminals. Since they own not the ship, they can't just jump on board and move it.
194 Brit Bob (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 06:01 pm Report abuse
The Ghananans will just turn off the electric and water. That will be the end of the 'stiff resistance'.

Bring on the Tin man and the Botox Queen.
195 scarfo (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 06:07 pm Report abuse

nice post made me lol


who exactly gets upset?
196 Guzz (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 06:24 pm Report abuse
According to your webmaster, quite a lot of you :)))
197 MistyThink (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 06:33 pm Report abuse
] 195
Where does Mercopress publish from ?
198 scarfo (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 06:36 pm Report abuse
so that'll be no one then! :|
199 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 06:38 pm Report abuse
@192 Guzzano Argentino

You and the other trolls are an organised group, to spread misinformation to undermine the British and the Fslklands and further the goals of CFK.

Your 'opposition' are all independent, unlike La Campora trolls.
Conq. is lashing out at your anti-foreign, anti-Brit posts.

We have no control over him. Nor should we.

Speak to the Moderators.

200 MistyThink (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 06:38 pm Report abuse
] 198
Where does Mercopress publish from ?
201 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 06:46 pm Report abuse
It says, Montevideo...
202 MistyThink (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 06:47 pm Report abuse
I say I am a penguin .
203 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 07:31 pm Report abuse
I say you are a penguin, too.
204 agent999 (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 07:31 pm Report abuse
don't insult the “peguins”
205 Guzz (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 07:34 pm Report abuse
MP has no address in Montevideo, they are just desperately needing friends in SA...
206 agent999 (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 07:36 pm Report abuse
What proof do have ?
207 Guzz (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 07:41 pm Report abuse
Check their website for contact info, no address, no telephone, no names. MP is a British site, run by Brits, for Brits and desperately wanting to befriend us.
208 Dam edge conTroll (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 07:42 pm Report abuse
MP is a fiend, who seeks the nuclear annihilation of the Land of Silver, thus they must be tramontane, or trans-riparian.
209 agent999 (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 07:49 pm Report abuse
More of your theories with no basis on facts, again just childish rants and distractions.
210 Guzz (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 07:52 pm Report abuse
You show me some proofs that they indeed operate from Montevideo.
Or is everything as usual and you need no proofs?

All MP has in Montevideo is a fax number.

Stop blaming my country for your biased views!!
211 toooldtodieyoung (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 08:02 pm Report abuse
210 Deadbeat

FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You Suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nuff respec to agent999!!!!
212 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 08:05 pm Report abuse
@207,208 trolls

Which one is it,
“Brits desperately wanting to BEFRIEND us ”

“seeks the nuclear ANNIHILATION of the Land of Silver”

You Trolls are not working well together, today.

213 Dam edge conTroll (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 08:05 pm Report abuse
For since the dawn of our land, has the enemy skulked athwart the Great Rivulet of Silver, and in fact has the fiend tried to destroy us, and not been succesful.

And 10 scores and 5 years later still does our fiend lurk on those shores, waiting for a weakness to strike. It is the nature of this nocuous force. This is why we must stand with even our wretched brother, never with the tramontane.
214 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 08:12 pm Report abuse
Enough distraction.

Are the crew getting tired of rations and candlelight. What will they do without Internet or the power to charge their phones.

44 crew ?? It must be as confining on Libertad (ironically “Freedom”) as it is for Assange at the Ecuadorian Embassy apartment in London.

Rats in a hole.

215 briton (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 08:13 pm Report abuse
The Ghanans do not own the ship
They can't just jump on board and move it.
Wanna bet.

They are just being polite..
216 Dam edge conTroll (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 08:17 pm Report abuse

You know, you are a pathetic piece of trash. Insulting servicemen, who are in fact only following orders. To call them rats, what have they done?

You coward, you wouldn't last an instant in a battle.
217 ChrisR (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 08:18 pm Report abuse
210 Guzz

You show me the proof that MP are indeed British and run by Brits.

I can assure you I have no intention of befriending Malvanitas though I do have a soft spot for the people of Uruguay.
218 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 08:20 pm Report abuse
The Trolls do not understand courtesy.

Just like Remembrance Day ceremonies.

They felt left out, but instead of honouring their own dead, and respecting others, they had to trash the Brits.

No respect,
no maturity,

No courtesy.
219 Dam edge conTroll (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 08:26 pm Report abuse
Eff u.
220 Pete Bog (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 08:33 pm Report abuse
Pointing their weapons at unarmed officials is the nearest Argentina will ever get to a military victory. Expect the sailors to get Argentina's highest military honours when they return to BA (if they return) , plus a few statues put up...

If they are killed Argentina can always refuse to take the bodies back and start launching a sovereignty claim for Ghana.

Even though the ship has not moved berths, it's still in Ghana, not Argentina.

The Argentinian military still have not worked out the knack of fighting succesfully against opposition which is armed and can fire back, so if the Ghanians move in military force, the Argentinians favourite military handsignal will be exercised-Manos Arriba!
221 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 08:35 pm Report abuse
@221 troll
“Eff u”

Is that what the “Sages” told you to say ??

Too bad their Commander in Chief of the Argentine Afmed Forces is sitting in comfort in her palace, while her loyal sailors suffer for her inaction.

Pay the bond, free the ship, return it to the Argentine people.

The enemy to the Navy is CFK, not vultures...
222 Think (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 08:36 pm Report abuse
(210) Guzz & TWIMC

Just to show that this “Custom” of censoring Latin American comments is nothing new “in here”……:

”128 Marcos Alejandro Sep 30th, 2010
Andres, after ”THINK” posted their site, they removed the name and telephone number of this company , now only fax and email is available.
This is clearly a british site link probably with their fish industry in the islands.

129 Ocampo_Andres
Well, up until now no one brought it up, now that they're found out it's a different story.
Edificio Acapulco - Juan B. Blanco 1265 Of. 102 …..

130 Marcos Alejandro
What a “kilombo” you started raising the question about who really is MercoPress.

131 Ocampo_Andres
haha well I'm from Rosario, where Che Guevara was from.
No one likes the truth when it's a dirty one.

132 Marcos Alejandro
Saludos and let's see if they removed our comments again…..”
223 Dam edge conTroll (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 08:38 pm Report abuse
The last two entities are fiends, for they are foreigners. And they are non-relevant for the natives of the Land of Silver. Eschew them, eschew them, like one shuns Variola Major.
224 Guzz (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 08:46 pm Report abuse
I admire your pacience, but it feels a bit pointless if they censor us as soon as they can't keep up, especially regarding the fact that we'll have to talk about pies and people's whereabouts in order for them to keep up...
225 Dam edge conTroll (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 08:47 pm Report abuse
The last two entities before the last two entities.
226 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 08:52 pm Report abuse
Think,Guzz, and Troll

You do not have to post on this site if you do not wish.

We will happily discuss the news stories between ourselves, without any distractions or harrassing insults to the Brits (and friends).
Perhaps some 'real', thinking Argentinians will be more encouraged to post,ole 'Jimmy' and 'Patonuzu', recently.
I am sure they have much to tell us about the feelings of the people towards CFK.

BTW, what is the Contact info of La Campora and La Campora Juvenil ??
Does Maximo have “just a fax#” or can we phone him directly.
Please post a photo of their building - we'll pass it along directly to MI6.
227 briton (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 08:52 pm Report abuse
Once again we have come to claim our sovereign rights
You have no sovereign rights.

It’s not a historic claim but an absolutely present-time claim
So the Falklands in present-time, can claim Argentina.

General Assembly) which calls on all of us to begin sovereignty talks
Prove it, show us this document that states in English and or Spanish,
That specifically says [sovereignty]

The plundering of natural resources that do not belong to her
just like CFK does …

The UK is responsible for any ecological catastrophe
We always blame the British for every thing, because we are innocent, [CFK]

It’s not only the Argies that are censored.

Bla bla, says CFK its all mine all mine., we Argentinians can claim what we want , when we want , and from who we want , blab la .

When did the truth ever stop an ambitious Empire builder.
Chickybutter , chickybutter..
228 Guzz (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 08:52 pm Report abuse
No way an Uruguayan site would open up for comments in the English version of the site and keep the Spanish version closed for comments and totally outdated.
Add the fact that UK posters are free to abuse while SA posters are being censored (and yes, I have been reporting abusive posts, nothing happened) and I can assure you, MP is NOT Uruguayan, at all.
229 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 08:55 pm Report abuse
But neither are you!!!! Lol
230 Guzz (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 08:56 pm Report abuse
Weird, now you start posting empty comments... What for???
231 Think (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 08:57 pm Report abuse
(227) Dear Guzz

Don't you “Think” that El Pepe thought that things were “a bit pointless” at Punta Carretas?

Look where he is now ;-)
232 Guzz (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 09:01 pm Report abuse
Indeed, you are right, but our battle is in SA, these mariposas are on a free fall, and the faster they fall, the louder they cry...
233 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 09:03 pm Report abuse
If you are from Uruguay,

You could just pop along to the MP address and knock on the door.
That should prove whether it is true or not.

Post your results on here, and let us all know.

*waits for excuses to start...*
234 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 09:03 pm Report abuse

I just got back home and the deadbeats look like they're squealing like pigs. WTF is wrong with you losers?

So Mercopress is our own site for our own purposes now? Think, the king of losers, is quoting shit going back to 2010 and Guzz the deadbeat has spent his entire day on this site. FFS, you fucking losers! Get a life you wankers.

I'm giving up on Mercopress as of tonight. NONE of my family or friends read it anymore. NOBODY in Stanley is discussing the chances of Argentina getting its hands on our islands anymore. We're secure and I have no more interest in reading the posts of shitty trolls.

I just read on one of these threads where either Guzz or TTT/ Tobias/ Dam / etc etc (they are both the same person as far as I can tell but they squeal like pigs if I say so) wrote something to the effect that we, the pro-Falklands posters think that other posters are non-genuine if they don't agree with our views. Then they claim Mercopress is British because it removes their posts. FFS!
235 agent999 (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 09:04 pm Report abuse
@227 Guzz
Even more childish remarks, you poor persecuted posters.

The posts of yours that are deleted are the ones when you do not post in English -the deletion of your derogatory posts on the “Memorial service” article are understandable.

As far as your assurances “I can assure you, MP is NOT Uruguayan, at all.” - as usual you can provide no proof,
236 briton (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 09:04 pm Report abuse
That’s cleared that little bit up,

Now what about this poor lonely abandoned little orphaned ship.

When are you guys going to take him home to Argentina .again.

237 toooldtodieyoung (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 09:05 pm Report abuse
217 briton

so then, why not just let it drift? Casting off lines does not mean you have to board the ship does it?

Then, once it's released from the dock, tow it to wherever you want it, otherwise, just let it crash into a sandbank out of the way somewhere.
238 Think (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 09:06 pm Report abuse
(235) Guzz
Go easy on MP....
The owner is a buen tipo, yoruga, and tocayo of yours...:-)
239 briton (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 09:14 pm Report abuse
240 toooldtodieyoung
thats a good way of moving it,
and CFK cant complain about that.
240 Think (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 09:16 pm Report abuse
(237) Joe Bloggs
Giving up already……; huhhhhhhhhh?

(242) Guzz
No pibe... No soy alcahuete.......
241 briton (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 09:23 pm Report abuse
tut tut 245,
sussie insults and has to be removed,
anyway, dont you have spannish sites like this,
and if not,,why not.
242 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 09:30 pm Report abuse
Briton, too old, agent 999, joe bloggs, and other 'good guys'

I think this issue is closed.

Guzz will never visit MB, and the sailors will be home just after Christmas, that's when the 90 day pay or seize period is up.

Of course, if CFK won't send Air FRANCE to pick them up, Singer may have to drop them at Guzzano's place in Montevideo.
A bit like Argentina abandoning and refusing to re-patriate the troops of the failed invasion force.
Will they be ' in disgrace' as well?

TROLL, your friend Guzz has put it on record, in previous posts, that ALL military personnel are beneath contempt and better off dead.
You guys should talk these issues over with Max or your supervisor, and decide what message you want to convey.

Off to the Remembrance Day Services now. Bye.
243 Dam edge conTroll (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 09:46 pm Report abuse
Is the above the all time record for removal of content?
244 briton (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 09:47 pm Report abuse
damm that was fast.
and these argies complain about their removal.

245 agent999 (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 09:50 pm Report abuse
Comment removed by the editor.
246 briton (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 09:54 pm Report abuse
calm down agent999
and tell us why you are being picked on.
now see what you argies have done,
247 Guzz (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 10:00 pm Report abuse
Comment removed by the editor.

Think Briton, think....
248 Dam edge conTroll (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 10:01 pm Report abuse
For the sages tell, that when one speaks of an entity in some fashion, and then the entity immediately tries to furtively demonstrate the antithesis of what had been spoken... there must be a locked up cat, or a smelly fish.
249 Think (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 10:11 pm Report abuse
(248) Guzz

Remember botija.....

This is the free Uruguay your parents and so many others fought for...
It is “His Agenda” and he has all the rigtht to have it.....
May we like it or not...............

So, as one of my Anarko-Boys in Scandinavia always tells me....
Chill out, du gamle.....
250 briton (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 10:12 pm Report abuse
Comment removed by the editor.

we know,
thats what they said about you lot.
251 Frank (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 10:42 pm Report abuse
From the BA Herald '
“The Ghanaian Port Authority sought to assault the ship and relocate it by force, without a court order endorsing such behaviour”, the ministry said in a statement released late on Friday.'
FMTT .. you don't need a court order to shift a ship.... you simply tell the captain... 'we are shifting your ship'... nothing more.
252 Think (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 10:44 pm Report abuse
(258) Guzz
253 redpoll (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 10:55 pm Report abuse
To get back to the original article, it is the captains duty to defend his ship. How was he to know this wasnt just another trick to cut out his vessel by the creditors.Nobody got killed and no shots were fired. If he had allowed his ship to be taken by a trick he would have been rightly shot for dereliction o f duty on his own quartedeck, Bravo for you capitan! You acted as you should.
The real failure is the ineptitude of the Argentine diplomatic service and possibly the Admiralty in Buenos Aires. The ambassaress in Ghana should be closely monitoring the situation. What took her so long to sort the situation? Polishing her nails perhaps?
254 Think (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 11:01 pm Report abuse
261 Guzz

Andres Federman is also worth googling;-)
255 Frank (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 11:04 pm Report abuse
Maybe it was because she is the ambassaress (sic) to Nigeria? Its a fairly long bus ride to Tema

How could they 'cut out ' the fragata.... ?

'Here is the plan captain .. we disconnect your shore services and a harbour pilot comes on board... your crew take the tug's line... we let go your shore lines... when we get to your new berth we reverse that operation.'

They have just made themselves look very stupid and pissed orf the Ghanian people who previously couldn't have given a monkey's.....
256 Guzz (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 11:06 pm Report abuse
These people are a bunch of vendepatrias!!!
257 Think (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 11:14 pm Report abuse
(265) Guzz

That depends of which Country you consider your “Patria”........

I know 4th or 5th generation “Brits” down here in Chubut that always talk about “US” and “THEM”....

“US” being the British....
“THEM” being the Argentineans......
258 Guzz (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 11:16 pm Report abuse
My Patria is La Patria Grande Artigas spoke about, friend...
259 Think (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 11:20 pm Report abuse
(267) Guzz

As you surely guessed by now, that's mine too.....
260 Guzz (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 11:22 pm Report abuse
San Martin spoke about it too... Simon Bolivar...
Damn, we lost big-time...

One day, friend... one day...
261 Think (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 11:38 pm Report abuse
(269) Guzz

30 years ago, I “thought” it would take a century, at least........

Today, names as :
Hugo Ch.
Rafael C.
Ollanta H.
Dilma R.
Michelle B.
Cristina K.
And, last but not least, PEPE M.
Fill me with renewed optimism..............
262 Guzz (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 11:42 pm Report abuse
Mercosur, Celac, Unasur...
We are getting there, still many obstacles in our way. Not only from within, but also from these infiltrators... At least now I know whom I'm dealing with.
263 Think (#) Nov 11th, 2012 - 11:54 pm Report abuse
271 Guzz

We have always been dealing with the same ones................
264 Guzz (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 12:00 am Report abuse
True indeed, but they hide behind so many facades, sometimes it's hard to tell friend from foe...
265 redpoll (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 12:15 am Report abuse
Stuff if Guzz or Wurzel Gummage or what ever you name is in Danish/Swedish. We dont want La Patria Grande. We are quite happy as we are, Pepe notwithstanding. You want to see a common currency for Mercosur controlled from the Argentine central bank? No Thanks! If you really live in Denmark on a scholarship (from whom?) suggest you skagarack off mate
266 Guzz (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 12:18 am Report abuse
See Think, 274 is easy to spot...
267 Think (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 12:28 am Report abuse
(274) redpoll

We disagree absolutely about la Patria Grande.......
But I “Think” that we three quite agree about the Captain of the “Libertad”.
268 Frank (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 12:50 am Report abuse
The captain of the Libertad is just a tool of KFC and her cronies... poor bugger. Libertad will end up in the mangroves sooner rather than later.

Thicko... why isn't Port William suitable as a site for the Falklands' new commercial port ?
269 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 01:10 am Report abuse
@277 Frank

“Thicko... why isn't Port William suitable as a site for the Falklands' new commercial port ?”

He wants it to be in Stanley, so that we can't park our new HMFI Thatcher , there.
Used to be called 'Freedom'
270 Nostrolldamus (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 02:05 am Report abuse
Whe the carapace of the Angles is lifted away,

the flesh within is revaled as rotting away,

for those who vaunt of greatness with dismay,

are now shown to be a fraud, and cast away.
271 Guzz (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 06:46 am Report abuse
They removed my comments about the people behind MP.
I'm quite sure I didn't break the houserules...
Why would they do something like that?

272 ProRG_American (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 07:53 am Report abuse
Just aim between their eyes sailor!
273 agent999 (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 09:52 am Report abuse
@273 what comments did they remove ?
274 agent999 (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 11:17 am Report abuse
MercoPress, in common with many others, deletes spam post like those advertising cheap counterfeit goods and there have been a few here recently.

What comments of “yours” were deleted ?
275 agent999 (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 11:51 am Report abuse
like your comment @254 ?
276 Guzz (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 11:57 am Report abuse
No, the link providing sources and the affiliation to Penguin News
277 agent999 (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 12:44 pm Report abuse

Penguin News is an independent publication !
278 Guzz (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 12:55 pm Report abuse
Sure mate, that's probably why they removed the comments...
279 Zhivago (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 01:28 pm Report abuse
Guzz and Think
Interesting man Artigas, although he did hold many “Anglo” values and ideas
”Artigas admired the United States of America and was said to always carry a copy of the United States Constitution with him. He wanted the United Provinces of the River Plate government to be based on the same federalist ideas as the USA. These ideals went against what the Buenos Aires government of the time wanted (a centralized state; some even supported the idea of putting a European monarch in charge of the newly independent lands), but he managed to gain the support of some other provinces. Because of this, the Buenos Aires government supported the Portuguese invasion of the Eastern Bank.”

Much ado about colonialism, n'est-ce pas?
280 Guzz (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 01:36 pm Report abuse
Comment removed by the editor...
281 Zhivago (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 01:48 pm Report abuse
Are your comments really being removed or are you just posting the quip; Comment removed by editor?
282 Zhivago (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 02:05 pm
Comment removed by the editor.
283 Pirat-Hunter (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 02:05 pm Report abuse
Hang in there boys. Ask Ghana for a U$ service charge fee. If they don't pay take it take it to the same court blackmailing Argentina for the U$, to willingly buy troubled bonds couldn't take more work then moving a ship, unless the terrorist are already running the world. O excuse me I forgot that the CIA and MI6 are still active and operating around the world.
284 agent999 (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 02:06 pm Report abuse
If you are so sure of your facts post them again !

Is this just another of your conspiracy theories ?

Can you prove the affiliation to Penguin news ?
285 Zhivago (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 03:02 pm Report abuse
I think the editor is in the can!!
286 RaulC (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 03:13 pm Report abuse
That don't prove nothing, are many John Fowler in English...
287 MistyThink (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 03:22 pm Report abuse
estimate/find , which comments are written from this web site employees .
288 agent999 (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 05:35 pm Report abuse
Your link in no way proves the close affiliation between Penguin News and MercoPress that you are suggesting.

MercoPress will gather its information from many sources world-wide, it is a “news agency” and some will come from articles published by Penguin News, some from the BA Herald, and from of its many other sources.

You really are suffering from a persecution complex if you seriously believe anyone would delete your post just because it contains the link that you provided.
289 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 06:07 pm Report abuse
It is in Spanish and not allowed. Simple.

Guzz is setting up an artificial self-fulfilling prophecy by breaking a simple rule to create his desired reaction to his “challenge”.

If he had posted a translation, I'm sure it would be left alone.

Sorry Guzzano, very amateur, very transparent.

I, for one, have reported the post to the Editor, as inappropriate - “not being posted in English”
290 scarfo (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 06:11 pm Report abuse

post is not in english, so it should be deleted!!!
291 briton_is Isolde (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 06:43 pm Report abuse
292 TipsyThink (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 06:43 pm Report abuse
wěll doně Gůzz.

yoů šwěpt Conqůěrěr and hiš all othěř naměš.
293 agent999 (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 06:44 pm Report abuse
That is just what Guzz would want.

He knows the posting the link and the Spanish text would fall foul of the MP rules on posting in English.

Had he posted the link and an English translation his post would not be deleted, but he then would not be able to complain that MP is picking on him.
294 Ayayay (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 06:51 pm Report abuse
@287 StaWp!! hahaha
295 Think (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 07:37 pm Report abuse
( 273) Guzz

You say:
“Think.... They removed my comments about the people behind MP.
I'm quite sure I didn't break the houserules... ”

I say:
But; you did break the House Rules.................. The unwritten ones......

Listen, botija......
I had a very similar debate a long time ago in here.
At that time, many “Non Turnips” were arguing that this “Place” was “Independent” and “Unbiased”.......
After being properly linked and informed, those “Non Turnips” have kept very quiet about that “Issue”.....
As you can see today, only the “Real Turnips” believe this place to be “Independent” and “Unbiased”...

Did you read the news about Gardel?
296 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 07:41 pm Report abuse
@301 “Think” and “Guzz”

Why did you post this publicly?

You could have just talked to each other in the next cubicle.

Or... maybe you in the same one ?!
297 Think (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 08:37 pm Report abuse
To “agent999”
Do you need any more “Proof” about how Guzz'es posts are being censored in here???
Read your own posts below (or above:-)

273 agent999 Nov 12th, 2012
@273 what comments did they remove ?

274 agent999 Nov 12th, 2012
MercoPress, in common with many others, deletes spam post like those advertising cheap counterfeit goods and there have been a few here recently.
What comments of “yours” were deleted ?

275 agent999 Nov 12th, 2012
like your comment @254 ?

Chuckle chuckle
298 TheSwede (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 08:49 pm Report abuse
Think @ 297
I've been reading that guys posts. He was being very offensive. Just my thought.
299 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 08:58 pm Report abuse
@298 the swede


Really, you guys are real Abbott & Costello comedy team...

What a pair of amateurs !!

What a transparent pantomime !!!

LOL LOL LOL .. !!!!!
300 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 12th, 2012 - 09:09 pm Report abuse
@300 Guzzano

Hi Guzz,
you're not fooling anyone, silly bugger!

*retreats to his fantasy world*
301 British_Kirchnerist (#) Nov 14th, 2012 - 10:43 pm Report abuse
Comment removed by editor....just kidding!

Good for the sailors, when this is all over I hope some of them get elected to public office on Cristina's ticket =)

Guzz and Think, great conversation (at least the bits they left up that I could see!) =)
302 Marcos Alejandro (#) Nov 16th, 2012 - 06:03 am Report abuse
Does agent999 work for MercoP(enguin)? :-)
303 JIB (#) Nov 16th, 2012 - 02:24 pm Report abuse
Yesterday Ghanian Navy's Commander had lunch with Libertad's Captain, it seems to be some wishes thrown around here are not being heard.
Water, electricity, fuel, everything's going on as it always did.

It's just a matter of time to release the Flagship.
304 British_Kirchnerist (#) Nov 16th, 2012 - 06:15 pm Report abuse
#303 Excellent. Glad to see not everyone in the Ghanaian leadership is a craven supporter of the vultures, I imagine there will be many like him in the Ghanaian military and society who hate the humiliation of Nkrumah's country turning itself into a battering ram against progressive Argentina

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