Thanksgiving service at the Liberation Monument in Stanley
The Memorial service commemorated the 30th anniversary of the Liberation of the Falkland Islands by British Forces, 10 weeks after they were invaded by Argentina. 252 British Servicemen were killed during the action, plus 3 Island ladies.
All 50 veterans were making their first pilgrimage to the Islands and during their one week visit are being hosted by local families.
Lt. Colonel Tony Davies (Welsh Guards) described the commemorative service as having being 'absolutely excellent, and it was more specially so for the 50 first-time returning veterans. It will change their lives for the better and they will return home in a more relaxed frame of mind'.
According to the Falklands government program, Remembrance Sunday begins with a Memorial Service at Christ Church Cathedral in Stanley. This will be followed by a parade of Guard Detachments representing the Royal Navy, Army, Royal Air Force and a Detachment from the Falkland Islands Defence Force.
The Band of HM Royal Marines Scotland will lead the parade. They will be joined by Veterans and Associations and begin their march to the Cross of Sacrifice at the local cemetery.
A short service will then be held and the Roll of Honour read out and there will be two minutes silence at 11.00 am marked by the firing of the saluting guns on Victory Green.
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The Falkland Islanders have every right to commemorate such important events such their liberation. They must count their blessings when they look at what mess Argentina is today.....a country that could be great, led by idiots.
Clearly as a nation as a nation that supported the Axis forces for the majority of WW2 we do not expect you have any shred of decency or honour. By the nature of your comments it is clear our expectations are justified.
When will you post office shitters grow a spine?
With an attitude like that it is no wonder we are better than you and that you are from the nation that is the spokesperson of disapointment.
it's not a joking matter, your not funny or clever, just pathetic excuse for a human being.
Free education in Denmark for a non-EU citizen my arse.
Is it a spectator sport in whatever nation you want to claim to be from?
How we remember our fallen is aligned with our culture. Last time IS checked you were not an authority on British rememberance commemorational culture?
You are just showing your ignorance of British culture and traditions.
We take Remembrance sunday very seriously - we lost just short of 1 million killed in WW1 - and you can add another 250,000 to that if you take into account troops from the Empire. Whatever the rights and wrongs of this conflict, the sacrifice required to achieve victory was horrific.
In WW2 we lost another 450,000 killed, including civilians and had many of our cities bombed and badly damaged, we fought for a just cause - the defeat of Nazism.
Then we lost another 255 in 1982 when you launched your unprovoked aggression against the Falklands.
The Falklanders will be thinking about the later losses in particular - those servicemen and civilians were killed because of your countries desire to oppress them.
The fact that we are remembering the sacrifices required to defeat your attempt to occupy the islands and then force the Falklanders from their homes at gunpoint (that was in your occupation plan - you just did'nt get around to doing it) must really stick in your craw.
Freedom of expression my arse, bunch of hypocrites, bet that aspect isn't included in your corruption lists :))))
You have nothing to say. On this story you have nothing to say. by your comments ( and the number you have had removed ) it's clear that you have learnt little and understand less than that.
So laugh away, and keep laughing. The more you do the more you show yourself up as being the narrow minded fake that you truely are.
I remember, I will remember and, when remembering those that have fallen, I feel humble. Those that have served and those who currently serve our country are a much better man than me.
God Speed
A soldier at the gates of heaven
To St Peter he will tell
“One more soldier reporting for duty”
“I've done my time in hell”
You are a twisted cretin by saying such pathetic things on a day when the dead on all sides are remembered. Armistice day is a day of remembrance and reflection. You should hang your head in shame.
Guzz - your lack of sensitivity or understanding of the meaning of November 11 is embarrassing. How can you expect anyone to take you seriously when you insult us and laugh at this occasion? Learn to have some respect. Dont be so full of hate.
The world isnt as simple as 'Arge good, UK bad' like Cristina would like you to believe. Would you have preferred a world where the UK did not intervene and the Nazis power had expanded across Europe and beyond?
I post “a stomach hurting with laughter” and I get deleted...
H Y P O C R I T E
And the UK is as corrupt as ever...
Seeing the islands again must have brought back dark memories for the veterans as well as fond ones about their fallen mates. It is great to see that it has had a therapeutic effect on them. British soldiers: the best in the world.
Marvellous people the Falklanders, great place to live except for the sub-human Malvanistas 400 miles away. But they will be dealt with properly the next time they attempt anything stupid, one way or another.
I can assure you your post had been deleted if it was me posting it.
Hypocrites :)
And I'm still laughing :)))
I just dont like what its being turned into by the hate doctrine of Cristina Kirchner, it makes me sad to see people so filled with hatred and blind to the mess she is making of the economy.
Im sure some corruption goes on in the UK, like everywhere. But the levels are miniscule compared with the Argentine administration. I know this from talking to friends (Argentinean) who have worked for the government for years.
Two of them dont agree with the regime. They are scared to talk about it, as they are being watched all the time, one thinks he may lose his job as he is not with Cristina. The other cant progress at all in her career. Both are very clever and talented and are desperately seeking a way to move abroad.
These are civil servants. In a non corrupt country, political views of a civil servant are unimportant, as long as you do your job well. I know cos I am a civil servant in the UK. Noone cares if I dont have a photo of David Cameron stuck to my computer (as if!) Noone even cares if i voice my displeasure with some of the policies he implements. Its called free speech. Something which has become rarer and harder in Arge (although the recent march may be showing a backlash)
Like I said, you have nothing to say......... You whine and moan about how the world isn't fair and blah, blah, blah.........we are all Hypocrites........ yeah, yeah, yeah.......save it for the social worker sweetheart.....
Just seen a guy in full dress uniform walking past my house with wife and little girl in a pushchair. On their way to the war memorial no doubt. I'm thinking “good on you chap”. That's what the world needs right now, more people with courage and honour like you.
Not you in particular... Do you even read what your hypocrite friends posts? All you do is agree in silence, don't you?
Reducing the freedom of expression for words that don't suit you, while taking you freedom to insult at will, is a much better indication of your corruption that any list you may come up with...
You disappoint me greatly with this black and white view of the world that highlights your lack of maturity.
Do you not see that the fixation you have about AG, for someone who says they are from Uruguay lacks all credibility, especially when the ‘killing women and children’ jibe is played as if it were a trump card.
You are the counterpoint to that idiotic BK: he is laughable, you are despicable.
Please take this comment positively and reflect on the contents accordingly.
Sentiment to last and save for the next corpse,
and for the legless man,
And the fatherless family.
Then bloody stop bashing nations at will!!
How come you fools are in your right to do so, disregarding culture, feeling and history, while we must take such things into account? Why this hypocrecy, Chris?
A perfect example of British Brainwash…:
1)
Not a Flower Laid….
Not a World Uttered….
Not a Prayer Prayed….
For any Argentinean dead under Remembrance Sunday.
For “All the Dead on all Sides” ?
My Left Foot!
2)
Some months ago, the Argentinean War Cemetery at Malvinas was vandalized by some “Anglo Heroes”.
No action has been taken to clarify that minor incident…… None whatsoever….
I notice though that some of the posters waving their “Faux Indignation” in here today, are the same that laughed back then.
3)
Totally innocuous comments from an Uruguayan and an Argentinean poster are deleted.
At the same time British posters insults against the above mentioned posters, the Argentinean Nation and the Argentinean Dead are allowed to stay.
On Remembrance Sunday.
Brainwash anybody?
To my knowledge I nave never met any of the posters who you call my 'hypocrite friends'. As Ive said before, its not an us vs them situation and to fob off my views as exactly the same as everyone else who doesnt agree with the regime, well, thats as stupid as saying that everyone that was at 8-N is an ultra right fanatacist paid personally by Macri. I admit sometimes I read insulting comments against Argentina on this site and it makes me feel really really sad that there is such hatred, on both sides. I count some of my best friends in the world as Argentinean (and some of those, even, as Kirchnerites)
I accept Cristina is good at making emotive speeches, at uniting people through hate, but if you look at her actual policies and arguments, they are so so flawed. None of my Kirchnerite friends nor people on this website have ever said a viable explanation for why she is allowed to continue the lies about inflation and about poverty in Argentina, and why this is not a fundamental concern for anyone? Can you answer me that?
what time is it in Montevideo ?
can we believe your discourses.?
You post your ideas and present them as facts. That makes it pretty hard for me to explain, wouldn't you agree?
If this site truly is based in Montevideo, I know precisely whom to talk to in order to have a look at the obvious fascism directed at our continent. Because in Uruguay, we have TRUE freedom of expression, not the “you are free to say what you want to say, as long as you say what I want to hear”-kind of freedom you lot profess...
Course he won't!!! Deadbeat will come out with a comment about shoot outs in American cinema's and school. He will say that we are all a bunch of hypocrites or he will accuse you of being “Joe Bloggs” or “ElaineB” or me!! then he will go on about how the US and UK kill women and Children........ Have I missed anything out?
All Deadbeat knows is how to be a Deadbeat.
All in all, I will use your own tactics against you. You have a problem with that?
Deadbeat?
;)
I thought so. Completely avoiding the issue. I have yet to meet a Kirchnerite who can address it. Are you denying the existence of inflation >25% or are you saying that its okay to have such high inflation and lie about it?
Or do you just have no explanation?
Sorry to break it to you, but inflation is important..and that is a fact not just my idea. Its the value of your money. Everyone suffers, but disproportionately the poorest in society suffer if money loses value. Or do you not agree? Poverty is dropping right? thats why when I was in BA in September thousands of people were sleeping in the streets, thousands more resorting to crime... significantly more than in 2008.
Or let me guess, I am wrong? everything is rosy? Safest city in Latin America? not one of the highest robbery rates at all? This is all a lie made up by Clarin?
m24digital.com/en/2012/10/01/oas-argentina-has-the-highest-robbery-rate-in-america/
Are you telling me things were better under Ménem? De la Rua? Saá?
All I know is that things are going the right direction...
Why do you think Arg voted for CFK? Who are you to put democracy aside because the decisions don't fit you?
On the subject of vandalism, is there any news on any arrests or prosecutions for the firebombing of the British Embassy in BsAs back in April?
Then bloody stop bashing nations at will!!
How come you fools are in your right to do so, disregarding culture, feeling and history, while we must take such things into account? Why this hypocrecy, Chris?
Answer boy!
I think Nestor was the best president that Argentina had in decades. However, he has now died and left his widow in charge. She has become drunk on power and is slowly screwing up the economy. Things have been deteriorating rapidly since 2008. Interference in Indec, finding common enemies in the UK for the malvinas, US for the dollar, Spain for Repsol, the middle class and 'ultra right' for everything, and spending tons of taxpayers money on insulting Clarín (which I freely admit is far from perfect, but has been the subject of a hate campaign when the president really had much more important things to do)
These are all distraction tactics as the economy is worsening by the day. Through expropriating and refusing to pay debts, Argentina has lost the respect of the international community and its own businessmen and women, who are desperate to move abroad to more stable and less risky markets. Wait 10 years, the country will be a shell of what it could be. Definitely NOT heading in the right direction.
And people voted for her because of the Nestor death blackmail card, and the 'Argentina united through hate of common enemies' campaign she has been wielding. These distraction techniques are now becoming ineffective as the economy and peoples wealth deteriorates even further.
Chris
Are you about to respond yet?
And for their ulitmate sacrifice,We will remember them...
Yes, very different people indeed.
Slattzzz
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To have respect for others you must first respect yourself, if you could do that you might find yourself a life worth living.
Then you would not have to spend your time here trying (unsuccessfully) to wind up Brits, who are secure in their identity and belief in themselves.
Remembrance is not big in Argentina because Argentina has not fought any wars, apart from twice attempting to annex British territory in the S Atlantic and getting your arses kicked both times, your military history consists of massacring unarmed Indians and Paraguayans.
Little wonder that you have nothing sensible to say on a day like today, when we remember our heroes, because you have no heroes of your own to remember.
You’re a sad case really, which is why you keep getting redacted.
Difference is that winding up South Americans causes applauses, while winding up Brits causes bans of accounts.
Give me your best shot, DTU has about 10000 computers with almost as many IP's, and my imagination is as endless as the numbers we count in... Guzz2, Guzz3,Guzz4... You lot think they'll ban DTU IP's? ;)
On another note, Mercopress is hosted by Linode, which in turn is owned by Christipher Aker, a guy from USA. These “news” are not from Uruguay and your webmaster can't type in Spanish.
Remove that “Montevideo” from the top and stop bringing shame to my country!
Very moving, and attended by wounded soldiers, their families and members of the medical and nursing staff, both military and civilian. There was standing room only, as more people than they anticipated turned up.
For all the Argentine posters on here, Remembrance Sunday is to remember and commemerate all those who died in conflict.
In the Falklands they remember both the British and Argentine fallen.
In fact the people of the Falklands have done far more to respect and honour the dead of Argentina than ANY Argentine government has ever done. You should be thanking the people of the Falklands for looking after your war dead when your own government spits on their memories.
You are only successful in getting yourself redacted, difficult to wind people up when they cannot read your postings.
Get some self-respect, or end up like Stink posting unintelligible rubbish.
Derr - chuckle chuckle, blither spasm braindump gibberish. Have another whiskey.
Now start banning my account, IP's and whatever you can come up with in order to try to silence me. Fact is that your arguments are as useless as yourselves, hence your censoring.
Ever considered the fact that you get banned, is because you’re a total Twat.
There is no need to silence you because you never say anything of any consequence.
If you are actually a Uruguayan, then you must be the only Pro-Argy Uruguayan on the planet, the rest of them seem to hate Argentina just like Chile and Paraguay.
Upon reading this article, I was intrigued by how other regions chose to commemorate Remembrance Day...
...and was greatly disheartened when I noticed the first two comments were obviously disrespectful ones made by certain pro-malvinas/pro-Argentina commentators... and how they continued to post things that warranted removal by the editor.
Seriously, have you 'people' no shame?
@21 Since when have genocidal, thieving, paedophile queers had a “nation”. At best, you have an “animal” preserve. Let's move quickly to the day when we can watch you become EXTINCT!
@24 You miss a point, Guzzle. Not surprising from a sub-human, paedophile queer, but I'll try to help you. Before your comments got “removed”, someone had to complain and someone else had to agree. Get the idea? Humans considered your comments and agreed that you are a brainless faggot. Now pull your queer neck in!
@28 You really are too thick to understand, aren't you? We have 775 excellent reasons for killing every argie. Then there are 258 reasons for wiping the putrescent slime from the face of the planet. And you complain about being “bashed”?
@33 On the plus side, argieland can also supply meat, fur and skin. I hear the meat tastes like pork!
@38 To the best of my knowledge there is only one “nation” in LatAm. It's called Chile! And you still can't spell!
@39 The Faggot Pretender!!!
@43 Forget it, Guzzle. We know you are an argie queer, genocidal faggot. We know why you pretend to be Uruguayan. Because the only thing an argie is good for is dying - in agony!
@47 Because they got paid!
@55 Why haven't you been exterminated? Like all vermin.
Here's a tip, Guzzle. You are so much lower than sh*te. Return to argieland. Wouldn't want you to miss the experience of your (short) “life”. Would you like to meet my kukri?
No shame, no integrity and no self-respect.
don't pat your mini skirt.
Have YOU no shame in your useless bones?
Honour Ahmed Jabber Kareem
Honour Abd Al Jubba Mousa Ali
Honour Ahmad al Helfi
Honour Hanan Saleh Matrud
You disgusting fascists!!!
Disgusting show of xenophobic hatred by Guzz and cohorts; you do nothing for you causes and much against them.
Scum is what you are, and don't bloody expect me to cry over dead scum.
I think that DTU might ban YOU though Guzz.... i'd be a little bit more careful as it will only take a couple of us pointing the university authorities to this outright racist attacks by you to have them ban you using their facilities or kicking you out altogether.
Denmark remember the wars even if you dont, so tread carefully and do not think that you are immune.
Can they find these names in internet ...i don't tink so.
To use an Australian term, “Have a teaspoon of concrete and harden the f**k up!”. I'm not saying YOU have to honour our dead, but very least you can do is keep your offensive opinions to yourself. Stop playing the victim.
Now I am back from my motorcycle ride, I do have a life away from this blog, I am happy to respond to your point 49.
I do not see hypocrisy in slamming a bunch of want to rule the world argies, who are holding reasonable Argentines like Simon68 and his family to ransom. There must be many reasonable Argentines who are as sick and fed up of TMBOA as I am. The whore has done more financial damage to Uruguay than enough.
Those actions directly affect me and my wife as well as all my friends, including the Argentine family next door. Why am I supposed to hold my considered views and look at the facts of my position (there’s a list coming :o) );
1) CULTURE: Which part of Argentine culture have I bashed? Certainly I castigate those whose rob and murder people of any nationality, including their own citizens, which given the sheer numbers and the police corruption certainly looks like a culture to me;
2) HISTORY: The history of AG since 1816 when it was formed (not backdated to 1810 because they hadn’t got round to putting things in writing – see the start of a trend here?) was (in respect of the Falklands) to say the least was founded on lies and perpetuated to this day by the ruling party of Peronistas by the indoctrination of their own children in these very same lies.
Peron and his whore Evita (this is a fact, she was a whore), laughingly referred to as ‘The Lady’ did everything to subjugate the masses: and this carries on to this day by the Nestor clan.
I could go on about the ‘Conquest of the Desert’ and the invasion of the mythical Malvinas as the highlights in what passes as military history for AG.
3) FEELINGS: I am extremely sorry if reasonable Argentines on here such as Simon68 and the others are in any way upset with my responses and I hereby unreservedly apologise if that is so.
But the feedback does not support your contention that this is so, just the opposite.
Now let us come to how Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, Great Britain and th
Those who don't respect the dead will NEVER respect the living. I believe that your posts put you in this category. You spout crap about caring, when you in fact care for nothing and nobody but your own political agenda.
It is a sign of how much life is respected by how you treat those who have died.
And remember this, Guzz, Death is the one thing we all have in common, regardless of race, creed, colour, religion, nationality or political persuasion.
On Remembrance Day all politics, religion and hatred are put aside.
You should try it sometime. It may make you a better person.
“On another note, Mercopress is hosted by Linode, which in turn is owned by Christipher Aker, a guy from USA. These “news” are not from Uruguay and your webmaster can't type in Spanish.
Remove that “Montevideo” from the top and stop bringing shame to my country!.”
Even more misdirection to suit your story guzz - the fact that the website is hosted outside of Uruguay is no proof that MercoPress is not based in Montevideo.
Your postings are becoming more ridiculous by the day, you pretend to be an adult yet behave more and more like a spoilt child.
well, at least we will find out if you actually are at DTU.... sending them an email asking them to investigate whether or not you are posting from there and if they support your personal brand of xenophobia being ”posted from their facilities”.
Its not much but we shall at least uncover some truths.
DTU isn't like your bisased webmaster, they will actually want to see the posts you are talking about ;)
Never have I attacked any race, and the fact that your belly-button complex leads you to think that you lot are an entire race for yourselves, is your bloody problem, not mine.
DTU isn't like your bisased webmaster, they will actually want to see the posts you are talking about ;)”
I've asked them to contact Mercopress to do just that, and to check the IP address to see if it is one of their student or not. Checking their website they do have a fairly rigid code of conduct and local Danish laws do cover racist attacks, written or verbal, incitement and so forth, as criminal offences.
If you *are* a student there, we shall see what we shall see.
You and Gustbury brought Argentina into this thread with your despicable posts, so stop crying now.
Have RESPECT for the DEAD, because one day YOU will be among them.
Go ahead Anbar, you are still not a race ;)
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Have respect for the living, damn you...
Yes, I refer to the President as The Mad Bitch of Argentina: she is severely Bi-Polar and rants and raves (her own admission) when things do not go how she wants them to, doesn’t turn up for meetings due to ‘low blood pressre’ but has miraculous cures the very next day. How can anybody respect downright crooks who steal from their own people?
And what about your own ravings against Britain: broke, militarising the S. Atlantic (oh dear me) citizens burning shops and rioting (the facts are these were criminals taking advantage of the weakness of our stupid government led by Camoron, who (as a lifelong Conservative I knew was ‘a rung-un’ as we say in the UK) and his ‘bitch’ Clegg. For all it’s faults Britain is a first world country, doing what it can to help other countries financially. It is unsurprising therefore that we have a massive deficit.
But unlike AG, we face our problems and deal with them in a mature way. How is that hypocrisy?
I suspect that you are either too young to appreciate that, or just too ignorant, perhaps even wilfully so.
Either way I strongly doubt that DTU would support your radical incitement to hatred and contempt for the very people who gave you the ability to (supposedly) study abroad and post freely on the Internet.
SO many youngsters, and the wilfully ignorant, preach about “freedom of speech” as those it gives them the right to say whatever they like. Often it is not until they get deep in trouble that they discover that this is not so, and whatever you say may, and often does, have repercussions.
If 30 years in criminal investigations taught me many thing its that there is always somebody cleverer than you, and that if you are going to claim something which is not true, you have to be prepared for when somebody else uncovers the truth and has it pointed out to the world to see.
You might wish to ponder on that Guzz....
Point at ONE single post of mine where I racially abuse anyone!!
ONE POST ONLY!!
As for the rest of your post, take a look at the mirror while reading aloud.
Those who do not respect the dead will never respect the living. You don't respect the living or dead.
If you had ever bothered attending a Remembrance day, anywhere in the world, you would know that both the dead and living and prayed for.
In British Remembrance Services we pray for all people throughout the world:
ACT OF COMMITMENT: (Spoken by the Priest)
Let us pledge ourselves anew to the services of God
and our fellow men and women: that we may help, encourage and comfort others,
And support those working for the relief of the needy and for the peace and welfare of the nations.
Response from the congregation:
Lord God our Father,
We pledge ourselves to serve you and all humankind,
in the cause of peace,
for the relief of want and suffering,
and for the praise of your name.
Guide us by your Spirit;
give us wisdom; give us courage;
give us hope; and keep us faithful now and always.
Amen
You are the biggest hypocrite on this site. Respect the dead, for they were once living. Respect their memory, respect their sacrifice, respect their courage.
You have no respect for anyone, living or dead, Guzz, your posts on this site have proved that beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Your mask falls away, and we see your true nature, a racist xenophobe.
Don’t let Ersatz Argie, Dunny Bugger see your pro kebab eater posts.
I'm still waiting for you to show me in what post I was being racist...
I hope that your Middle East Peace Envoy Tony Blair(the Butcher of Iraq) and UN special envoy on global education Gordon Brown consider my humble request.
Cat got your fingers? Or are you just having a hard time prooving your nonsense, as usual?
Tell you what, get your sidekicks to give you a hand checking every thread, you'll bloody need it...
What is it you call it when miscrediting a persons name?
It is true that a large part of our people DID think this was a good thing, but an even larger part realised that the drunken idiot Galtieri had bitten off more than he could chew.
This large majority is about the same demographic grouping that took part in the 13th. September protest, the thinking sector of the Argentine population, those that realised that going to war with Britain was the next best thing to suicide.
It would be very nice to be able to comment on these threads without the generalisations that are constantly used, i.e. “all argies are...” or “all brits are...”
This thread started out with Brit bashing, niether Guzz nor Gustbury were retaliating because a Brit had bashed Argentina, so Guzz and Gustbury you two were instigating the ridiculous “war of words” and as both of you, however much you try to hide behand your Uguayan persona Guzz, are Argentine, I would like to apologise profusely to the Brits on this thread for the insult to your war dead and to our own.
I merely stated that while other nations have beaches, theatres and carnivals, the islanders have memorial days.
If you compare that to all the crap that comes from various briton posters, and some yanquis, it's a piss in the Nile...
Nov 11th, 2012 - 03:52 pm
You are disgusting!!!!!!
If they had any class, dignity or decency they'd keep their vile, childish and moronic views to other threads rather than disrespecting the dead. This speaks more about them than it does about us, their words are empty and worthless for they disrespect the dead.
What a bunch of utterly despicable scumbags they are, thanks to MercoPress for moderating their hateful posts.
I was just showing you that in Britain we do respect the living, and we respect the dead, since you were the one that kept saying that we didn't.
Stop being hypocritical, Guzz. First you say one thing, then you say another.
If you had any decency you too would honour those that have died in the service of their countries, just like the Falkland Islanders and British honour the memories who paid the ultimate sacrifice of those on both sides of the Falklands War.
Every November the British Forces and the Falklanders lay wreaths on the graves of the Argentine war dead. It's called having respect, but you wouldn't understand that, would you Guzz?
Don't waste your time replying to me because I'm off out again and won't be on the site again until tomorrow by which time your abuse will be wrapping fish n chips somewhere.
Bitter, isn't it?
Will you learn anything? Not at all, but the taste is there... ;)
And Argentina issues 2 Pesos coin to commemorate 30th anniversary of the Falklands invasion
The British are well known for respecting the war dead of other countries, just like in the Falkland Island's where the Argentine have reefs laid on their graves and in the UK where many war graves are tended too of other nations war dead.
So when he says 'bitter' he really knows not what he is talking about (nothing new there eh folks!)
Jewish Cemetery Is Desecrated in Argentina, the Third This Year
www.nytimes.com/1996/10/22/world/jewish-cemetery-is-desecrated-in-argentina-the-third-this-year.html
La Tablada cemetery on the capital's outskirts early Sunday morning and smashed or defaced 100 tombstones and mausoleums, according to police reports. The intruders painted red and black swastikas and ''Hitler'' on many tombstones before being chased by a guard who heard them, the police said.
You say:
“This article appears to be wrong on most counts.
It's an act of remembrance, not a service of thanksgiving.
It was commemorating the dead of all wars and not just the Falklands conflict.
It was held at the Cross of Sacrifice and not the Liberation Monument.”
I say:
You are wrong on one count.
You commemorated all YOUR dead of all YOUR wars.....
Not a Flower Laid….Not a World Uttered….Not a Prayer Prayed….
Under your ”Remembrance Sunday.... for any Argentinean dead .....
For: “All the Dead on all Wars” ?
My Left Foot!
Mercopress Hey! What's wrong with you!? Why erased my comment if I fulfilled the rules of the site? I did my best in my English, but you, erased me.They fear that the royal family be punished for publishing truths????? So not worth. THE MALVINAS ISLANDS ARE ARGENTINE.
You talk about the UK being a corrupt nation. The World's Corrupt Nations Perception Index has Argentina down in 100th place sandwiched in between Benin and Burkina Faso. I guess that means Argentina is a Banana Republic?
Is there any proof the Mercopress is based in Montevideo ?
I think the Argentine government will remove many web sites including Mercopress by the new media law.
“Hypocrites, the invasion occurred on January 3, 1833 and we are never going to give up our rights. Glorious April 2, 1982 was the landing by the recovery of our Malvinas Argentinas waving our flag in repairing the spoil islands . then suffer a new British invasion, so the true liberation of that land for Argentina Argentine people's heritage and future, is pending.
We now have in our soil to Edward Duke of Kent, cousin of the Queen of England today, Grand Master of the United Lodge of England ...... we recognize that not easy with such conspirators and brave characters who hide behind the tight dark secrets of those secret societies .... ”
These guys are well salaried to comment in day long.
I wonder what their lists of perception of corruption says about that.
I bet nothing, as everything is as usual...
Hypocrites :)
“I think the Argentine government will remove many web sites including Mercopress by the new media law.” – That just about says it all really, tells you all you need to know.
@118 Guzz
With no one left to argue with, you’ll just have to argue with yourself.
Where does Mercopress publish from. ?
So look at all your odious comment removed by the moderator and learn
Grow up!!!!
Peace Simon, I understand that not all Argentinians are the same and the “thinking part” of the population is disgusted by the way that KFC / Ol' Turkey neck / TMBOA / The harpy and government has ruined the country.
114 Think
Was there a prayer for the Austrialians?
Was their a prayer for New Zealanders?
The Indian's?
Like I said If KFC / Ol' Turkey neck / TMBOA / The harpy and her government wanted to put on her own November 11th then there would be a chance for all Argentinians to remember their war dead wouldn't there?
Anyway, just because there isn't a service of rememberance it doesn't mean that you can't remember the dead.
118 Deadbeat
........and yet you go on and on with you pathetic whining like a little child. All your posts are about “the hypocrites”, “the hypocrites”, “the hypocrites” and yet you tell me I like the sound of my voice too much....... Pot, kettle, black!!!
As noted before you are a one trick pony, an irritation. all you can do is complain and whine and moan.... when you can do something else other than whine, people might take you seriously ( I doubt it, but they might )
These salaried commentators are more sedulous than Chinese workers.
Don’t know, and what does it matter.
Guzz makes an other stupid comment that because a website is not hosted in Uruguay it proves that MercoPress is not based in Montevideo.
You also have no proof showing that MercoPress is not based in Montevideo.
@118 Guzz
We have no control over what is censored, it is just another of your conspiracy theories.
You claim to be a person of maturity and principles but your posts show none of this.
You say I am only replying in the same way as all non Argentinians post bad things about Argentina, I am sorry Guzz that is a poor excuse for a so called mature person.
Your maturity is questioned as soon as you start posting childish comments on an article that is about remembering those that died in conflicts, remembering both sides in those conflicts.
At least the Argentinian Rugby players had the good graces yesterday at the match against Wales to acknowledge the wreaths and poppies while both countries national anthems were being sung. (it was a good game and a very well deserved victory by the Argentinian players).
You are pathetic with your comments about the “Brits” killing “innocents” in Afghanistan, but forget that your so called Danish hosts/benefactors fight alongside the terrible “Brits” in Afghanistan.
You Guzz are one of the biggest Hypocrites here!
Here is a link to the order of service for Remembrance Sunday. I think you'll find it contains no reference to the specific nationality of anyone who has suffered as a resut of any particular war.
www.ctbi.org.uk/pdf_view.php?id=548
Anyone attending such a service is free to interpret the words in a way that seems meaningful to them.
Do you have any equivalent of Remembrance Sunday in Argentina? Obviously I wouldn't expect you to mark Armistice Day in any way, but do you have a similar day on which you remember the dead of all wars, including the British of course?
A special greeting from Buenos Aires to the inhabitants of the Falklands. Not all Argentines think alike. I personally believe in the need to respect the principle of self-determination. God bless you all.
Nov 11th, 2012 - 07:09 pm
Does this mean we can speak with a real and genuine Argentinean? I do hope so sir. Welcome to the discussion. It is very good to meet you.
Now continue with your bla bla bla bla...
good to see you throwing your toys out of your pram
(i) Britain claimed the Falklands in 1756
(ii) Vernet illegally set up the colony
(iii) In 1833 when Vernet's garrison remained only x1 settler chose to return to the Argentine federation
(iv) Argentina had protested about the British presence on the Falklands right up to and including 1849 but then signed the 'Convention of Settlement' treaty with Britain in 1850 where 'a state of perfect harmony had been restored.'
(v) In his address to Argentine Congress on 1 May 1869, President Sariento said, 'that the country had no claims on other nations.'
(vi) after 1850 the Argentine state produced tens of thousands of maps that either excluded the Falklands from Argentine territory or showed the islands in a different colour.
(vii) After protesting about the British preseence on the Falklands in 1849 Argentina did not make another official protest until 1941. In international law claims are considered defunct if there is a gap of 50 years or more between protests on sovereignty.
(viii) The Falkland Islanders have the right to self detrermination under the UN charter they do not wish to become associated with Argentina.
Argentine claims regarding sovereignty of the Falklands are completely baseless just like INDEC's inflation figures. If a government is going to tell lies about inflation and growth figures telling lies and spreading propaganda around the World regarding the history of the Falklands comes relitively easy.
Wake up and get a life!
Welcome Jimmy... Welcome on board. A pleasure to meet you. I think that you and Simon68 will have a lot to talk about and it will be a pleasure to have a discussion with a clear, thinking Argentinian.
Thank you for your kind words. All wars are regretable. Especially the Falklands Conflict that should never of happened.
The Argentinian conscripts were lied to, badly treated, not told where they were going and not looked after by their senior officers and all died needlessly.
November 11th should be a time to respect and honour all the war dead and promote understanding between peoples so that it should never happen again.
Hahahahahaha!!!
You say:
”Here is a link to the order of service for Remembrance Sunday.
I think you'll find it contains no reference to the specific nationality of anyone who has suffered as a resut of any particular war…..”
I say:
Firstly, I want to thank you for the inspirational link…..
www.ctbi.org.uk/pdf_view.php?id=548
But........ : ”No Reference to the Specific Nationality of Anyone who has Suffered” you say?
Did you read page 20?
The following Blessing is used:
“God grant to the living grace,
to the departed rest,
to the Church, the Queen, the Commonwealth……”
Amen
Well…………. It sounds pretty “Nation Specific” to me……
No thank you. I am careful where I put my tongue. :o)
Do you want to sit any more hairs? Silly contrarian,
ooohhhh eeeerrrrrrr...................... LOL
I see you didn't bother reading the whole verse:
God grant to the living grace, to the departed rest,
to the Church, the Queen, the Commonwealth
[or to the Church, the State]
and all people,
unity, peace and concord,
and to us and all God’s servants, life everlasting
To ALL PEOPLE not just one nation.
Perhaps you should've read it properly before making a fool of yourself?
That says rude and disgusting things about today.
November 11th,
Do these who sprout such abuse never show respect to their own dead and wounded.
To remember, is to remember ALL , those who died, in all wars,
mmmmmm
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Does it make you big , tough , frightening ,
He has done nothing to you.
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Which part of 'all people' are you finding difficult?
Is that not inclusive enough for you? Are you suggesting that the Church of England shouldn't pray for its head and for the country, or are you suggesting that some formula be found to make you Argentines feel more a part of things? I think if you had a specific mention everyone would want one.
I'm not sure where you're going with this one. On Remembrance Day, people think about the sacrifices that were made so that we can enjoy the freedoms of today, and remember those who have suffered as a result of war. I'm not sure how you imagine the Argentine dead fitting into that here. I mean, who do you see laying the flowers and what form should the prayers take?
No. I don't think so.
We are remembering ALL the dead in ALL wars ( It's worth repeating that so THINK gets it ) ALL the dead in ALL wars.
and you are knitting a flag, way to go..............way to go.
Not to mention his copy and paste from somewhere else and misses most of the real facts.
Do you have a reason for posting all this now?
We know what you think already. So the Spanish didn't recognise British sovereignty. So what? The British didn't recognise Spanish sovereignty. And Argentina isn't Spain anyway. You didn't inherit anything from Spain. Well, apart from a bogus claim maybe.
You say:
“I'm not sure where you're going with this one.”
I say:
Let me then repeat it....., just for you....:
”39 Think Nov 11th, 2012
A perfect example of British Brainwash…:
1) Not a Flower Laid….
Not a World Uttered….
Not a Prayer Prayed….
For any Argentinean dead under Remembrance Sunday.
For “All the Dead on all Sides” ?......... My Left Foot!
2) Some months ago, the Argentinean War Cemetery at Malvinas was vandalized by some “Anglo Heroes”.
No action has been taken to clarify that minor incident…… None whatsoever….
I notice though that some of the posters waving their “Faux Indignation” in here today, are the same that laughed back then.
3) Totally innocuous comments from an Uruguayan and an Argentinean poster are deleted.
At the same time British posters insults against the above mentioned posters, the Argentinean Nation and the Argentinean Dead are allowed to stay.
On Remembrance Sunday.
Brainwash anybody?
And if you want to see what my countrymen think of such acts, see here;
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/9441941/Argentine-war-cemetery-in-Falkland-Islands-vandalised.html
Xect
Anyway, I was just trying to see if you could tell what I was thinking.
Thou knowest, Think, the secrets of our hearts.....
Unless you really are God and did hear all the prayers said on remembrance day, in which case I apologise.
Oh think, think, think!!!!
1/ If it offends you that much, why not hold your own Remembrance day and honour / your own war dead on that day mmmm?
2) Some months ago, the British Embassy was attacked by a bunch of cowardly Argentinian “Hero's”. No action has been taken to clarify that Major incident…… None whatsoever…......
3) Uruguayan and an Argentinean posters choose a story about honouring war dead to insult and offend the decent people who read this site. Then when their offensive posts are deleted they whine and moan about the hypocrites.
Sour grapes anybody??
That in 1982 HM Forces expelled the malvinazi-third world neocolonialist aggressors in an epic defence of the Falkland Islanders' freedom and independence.
God Save the Queen,
Philippe
We can’t mention personally all countries involved.
WW1
Countries Involved:
Albania
Arabia
Austria-Hungary
Belgium and colonies
Brazil
Bulgaria
China
Costa Rica
Cuba
Czechoslovakia
Estonia
Finland
France and Empire
Great Britain and Empire
Germany and Empire
Greece
Guatemala
Haiti
Honduras
Italy and colonies
Japan
Latvia
Liberia
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Montenegro
Nicaragua
Panama
Persia
Philippines
Poland
Portugal and colonies
Romania
Russia
San Marino
Serbia
Siam
Turkey
Transcaucasia
Unites States of America
WW2
Countries that Joined the Allies:
Most of the countries of world joined the Allies although some of them were controlled by pro-Axis regimes. The original anti-German military alliance consisting of Poland, France and Britain was eventually joined by the following countries (by alphabetical order):
• Aden Protectorate (former South Yemen)
• Albania
• Argentina
• Australia
• Belgium
• Bolivia
• Brazil
• British Malaya (today's Malaysia and Singapore)
• British Raj (today's India, Bangladesh, Burma and Pakistan)
• Canada
• Chile
• China
• Colombia
• Costa Rica
• Cuba
• Cyprus
• Czechoslovakia
• Denmark
• Dominican Republic
• Dutch East Indies (present-day Indonesia and New Guinea)
• Ecuador
• El Salvador
• French Indochina (today's Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam)
• French Guiana
• Greece
• Guatemala
• Guyana
• Haiti
• Honduras
• Iran
• Iraq
• Luxembourg
• Malta
• Mexico
• Mongolia
• The Netherlands
• Newfoundland
• New Zealand
• Nicaragua
• Norway
• Palestine
• Panama
• Peru
• Philippines
• Saudi Arabia
• Soviet Union
• Syria
• Trucial States (today's United Arab Emirates)
• Turkey
• The United States
• Uruguay
• Venezuela
• Yugoslavia
The Allied coalition also included all African countries except for Italian colonies of Somalia, Ethiopia and Italian North Africa (present-day Libya), and Spanish and Portuguese colonies of Mozambique, Angola, Spanish Sahara (present-day Western Sahara) and Portuguese Guinea (today's Guinea-Bissau) which w
You say:
Anyway, I was just trying to see if you could tell what I was thinking.
I say:
I have never met a man that could tell what a woman was thinking....
You say:
Thou knowest, Think, the secrets of our hearts.....
I say:
Thou knowest, Monty96, those “secrets of our hearts” should be more of our guidance.....
What an amazing discovery. The press is a mechanism for disseminating information.
It's called Public Relations.
Those trolls need for one minute to sit and think of all those poeple that have lost their lives on both sides and how lucky they are to be breathing today, regardless wether they agree with any wars or not! or if they deserve life or not!
disrespecting the dead, only shows their soul is just as dead......
Respect my soul and keep quiet...
I wasn't going to post on here today because of Remembrance Day but I heard some sad news, Sir Rex Hunt passed away. I'm sure everyone knows who he is and its a sad day for all. He ordered the marine garrison to lay down their weapons which saved hundreds of Argentine lives that day, he should be remembered fondly on all sides.
No point in with you lot when equality is set aside, from now on my comments are to the air and my discussions with people that intends to find a solution. You are nothing but an infiltrator.
Infiltrator? An infiltrator of what?
Why England supports “falklands” and prevents Scottish independence? that sucks england. I wish him well in Scotland, and as for england .... no comment !!
I imagine Think knows that already. It's not exactly a secret. Do try to keep up.
You're not very smart, are you?
Blocking independence? How could the English do that when the Scottish haven't even voted yet, you stupid tit.
Mr. Hunt.............................
He did wear those feathers with great dignity.
Not many can brag about that.
Q.E.P.D.
Blocking the EU? What the fuck are you talking about? The vote is in 2014. If they say yes and they wont btw then Scotland will leave the UK. You really are an idiot aren't you?
Could you please write with better English next time?
@178
I dont think Mr Rex Hunt is actually dead. There is no mention on the internet.
“from now on my comments are to the air and my discussions with people that intends to find a solution. ”
A solution to what Mr. Guzz? What is the end product of the dialogue you wish to participate in? You want to discuss only ideas concerning solutions to what problem? (I'm just asking.)
Check another source friend, he is gone, may he rest in peace. (Incidentally, why would I make something like that up?)
The prayer actually read by the Anglican vicar went:
“Let us remember before God, and commend to his sure keeping:
Those who have died for their country in war ...”
No mention of nationality, religion, race.
My apologies, may I ask were you found out?
“I lost interest in talking to you lot, you are mere ants in a big nest of snakes...”
Sorry, but i doubt that is new to you.....no te creo, ya lo sabias ;-)
Censorship is no surprise on this site Guzz, It is normal in the colonial form of democracy. Member, what goes around comes around.
Do you have any proof showing that Mercopress is based in Montevideo ?
“Anbar?
Cat got your fingers? ”
Unlike some I am not paid to post here all day, or so demented tobe tied to it every day all day.
I am replying to a nice email from DTU as it happens and doing, as requested, and leaving them to investigate this themselves, without further comment.
(Hope you've got your affairs in order)
It is not me that is questioning where MercoPress is based, I have no reason to doubt that they are based in Montevideo as they state in their information.
It is the likes of you, Guzz and Think with your conspiracy theories and persecution complexes that are saying that MercoPress are not based in Uruguay.
I went to school with a few boys from the Falklands and one of them let me know. I didn't want to post on Remembrance Day because as you probably noticed disrespect and insults were running rampant as I knew it would. I can understand why you don't believe everything that is posted on this site!
I think you just have to stop drinking on Sundays!
FWI it was proved an argentine vandalised the Darwin cemetary but there was no way of knowing which RG was responsible since they had already buggered off to RG land. I doubt CFK would allow us to round up all the RGs from that flight and transport them back here for questioning.
(1) The video link I included is evidence for my views. It's not the only video. Where is the evidence for your contention?
(2) If the “demographic grouping” you mention is so huge, wouldn't it be more meaningful if they were “doing” rather than “thinking”.
(3) If you go through as many articles on this site as seems to you appropriate, how many contributors (a) support the Falkland Islanders and self-determination; (b) support the false argentine claim to the Falkland Islands and territorial aggression (including nuclear attack)? Amongst group (a), how many are argentine or south american?
(4) If there are so many argentines, i.e. “an even larger part”, who are content for the Falkland Islanders to have the system of government that they wish on their Islands, where are they? This is, effectively, a “confidential” site. It's not the same as speaking out publicly against “the Party” on the streets of Nazi Germany, is it?
You would have us, or at least me, believe that the majority of argentines are not interested in the Islands. My response to that is simple. Prove it!
Yes, it was next to suicidal for Argentina to go to war against Britain. A repeat performance will be even more suicidal. So why is this supposedly huge “demographic grouping” giving tacit support for the current “war”? Not being waged with guns, aircraft, rockets or missiles, but a war nevertheless. In 1939-1945 ALL Germans were “the enemy”. NOW, ALL argies are the enemy. Until they prove that they aren't.
For all we know, you may be the only argentine that might support the Islanders and their wishes. Even you might be here to try to gauge how committed Brits are to the security and defence of the Islands. How far are we prepared to go? The answer to that is simple. All the way. Whatever it takes. It's argies and argentina that need to, demonstrably, change. We won't!
191 isn't me, it's conqueror... that happens when you try to predict who is going to post in the future...
That, or something entirely different is going on...
a guy who has a brain full of hearsayings.
you still here Guzz? I thought us plebs weren't good enough for you?
“I lost interest in talking to you lot, you are mere ants in a big nest of snakes...No point in with you lot when equality is set aside”
Hmm yes, lets talk about equality shall we? Like how you lot constanly deny the human rights (as written in the UN charter) of the Falklands people.
'I didn't want to post on Remembrance Day because as you probably noticed disrespect and insults were running rampant as I knew it would'.
After reading this thread today, I find I am saddened and shamed by what I have read. Some of the posts that have been left to stand are unwarranted trolling and abusive to the point of being quite obnoxious.
Some here should hang their heads in shame at the behaviour and attitudes that have been put on display. Unfortunately, I doubt those that posted such vile will ever think there was anything wrong with what they posted.
May the souls of the near 1000 people who died on/near the Falklands in 1982 Rest In Peace.
I post a lot of crap on this site only because I believe it is a dead issue and everyone needs to move on. That is my opinion. It seems that on Remembrance Day the situation becomes too real, so many lives were affected on both sides, mine wasn't. I just hope everyone had a chance to think about war and those that weren't lucky enough to live through it and maybe to those who did and now have to live with their consciences and memories.
You šwěpt Conqůěřěř and hiš all othěř naměš.
On what planet did Guzz score a victory? (at least I assume that is what you meant to write, kinda hard to tell with your horrific spelling) Loads of people have been getting the wrong posting numbers, just check back at comment 169
@111 I wish you were right. I'd love to watch a reef being placed on an argie war grave. Does it come with the water?
@114 Were you there? Did you listen to every word said? That'll be NO times 2. All those words you typed. All crap!
@115 Somebody doesn't like you! Actually, nobody likes you! What a shame your comment wasn't accurate. You're still crapping, so no-one erased you. More's the pity!
@117 Aaah, yes. In line with their policy of freedom of the press, freedom of speech, democracy.......
@119 Shame you were just trespassing. Come again, why don't you? Next time, NO-ONE will leave!
@120,121 Brainless wankers! Sorry. Cut that back to just “Brainless!” To be a wanker, you have to have something to wank.
@126,127 Are you, at present, getting your butt plugged? Don't be shy. we won't tell.
@132 I'm concerned about an “Argentinian” with the name “Jimmy”. Anybody else have the same feeling?
@143 Why should Twinky deny himself? He IS a fool. Initially, he seemed to be an amusing, uneducated fool. Now he's just an embittered fo..
@151 Let's see now. A little over 30 years ago, a bunch of argie nobodies staged an unprovoked, undeclared invasion against a peaceful British territory. I am awed by the restraint of the Falkland Islanders. I would be inclined to place an explosive charge in every argie war grave. I would have also seized the last 250 argies to visit the Islands and.......... (Guess the rest)!
@158 Depends. What are those Islands 400 miles to the east called? Who do they belong to? Do they have the right to do things as they wish?
@163 Adopt a reasonable custom. We observe 120 seconds of silence. In your case, make it 120 years!
@168 “marcio”. Girl name!
don't trust security passings a lot,can be transfixed easily.
i see your pictures at web sites sometimes...strap face.
Why are you so jealous, you have everything but you have convinced yourself that you are nothing. If the Islands were given back to you, you would find something else to blame for your cock-ups. Tell your wife to give her vibrator a break and concentrate on different things instead of whining all the time.
favorite Country music Singer - Johnny Cash
Favorite LA street scene - Melrose Ave.
Not a militarist either - Former Serviceman, been to war and I hate it.
Nov 12th, 2012 - 01:43 pm
The truth of the matter, Conqueror, is that I have absolutely no obligation to answer you, but I will:
1) I don't remember the site that has the info, but I do remember reading that the manifestation in Plaz de Mayo on 2nd April 1982 was estimated to be on the order of 200.000 people which represented about 0.6% of the population at the time.
2) I don't consider the grouping that I belong to so huge, on 8N about 1 million people took to streets in Bs. As. out of a population of 8 million. As to “doing” instead of “thinking”, that is exactly what we did last Thursday!
3) & 4) I have no interest in totting up the number of comments, for or against the self determination of the Islanders, it has no bearing on what I think and comment on this site, as to #4 The great majority of Argentines couldn't give two tuppenny damns about the Falkland Islands, they are too busy trying to keep body and soul together. The only Argentines that care about the Islands are the veterans who fought there in 1982 and the malvinistas who get paid for writing rubbish on these sites.
If you honestly believe that ALL Argentines are rabid malvinistas I really feel sorry for you, its like saying that all Brits hate the French, just not true!!!!!
Sacre Bleu!!!
This is political correctness gone too far.
Unfortunately, his/her blind hatred towards Argentines and the obnoxious responses he/she posts are both trollish and infantile. I certainly cannot defend the vile and putrid dirge that is issued under his/her Mercopress pseudonym. I personally think he adds as much value as Pirat Hunter to any debate from all I have read here over the last year. I have now put him on my ignore list, along with PH. Either of them serve no purpose toward debate and would have been chucked off many other internet forums a long time ago.
That sums up why you lost in 1982 and why he is there honouring the dead, killed while evicting a facsist occupation carried out with the express wish of evicting British people from their homes at gunpoint.
You sum up why we are'nt interested in negotiating the islanders' future with you either. Why would we give our people over to the likes of you?
You're invasion was based on an underestimation of my country, fueled a deep seated sense of artificially whipped up aggrievement over events that happened so long along that you have to do a lot of digging into history to find out what happened.
When you do carry out the research you find out that your countries claims are a bit shakey, to say the least.......
What a waste of life the whole thing was- and it was your nations' fault.
Do not mess with his feet
Could you supply an English translation for the above.
If it is your territory, why are you not there?
If it was your territory, your flag would be flying there.
Duke's father, Jorge, which says a hectic life .... we do not want in the Malvinas Argentinas.
There are no Malvinas Argentinas, they live in tiny imaginations along with the Sudetenland, Alsace-Lorraine, Palestine and other little pipe-dreams of despots and desperate people. At least those other places do have some historical precedence giving them at least a wisp of legitimacy.
“Why England supports “falklands” and prevents Scottish independence”
It's the UK at the moment. England is a part of the UK. The UK is not England.
There will be politicians arguing against Scotland leaving the UK, but the referendum in Scotland has not been outlawed by the UK government as it's going ahead in 2014.
If the Scots vote for Independence it is not, and will not, be prevented as the Scottish (like the Falkland Islanders) are entitled to the right to self-determination, whether sections of UK politics like it or not.
As an Englishman, I have no objections to Scotland attaining independence if they vote for it.
It is a pity that Argentina disrespects the right of the Falkland Islanders to vote when they themselves have democracy, whereas the UK is not preventing the Scottish independence referendum.
It is of no interest to us WHAT you want in relation to the Falklands. As an Argentinian. it is none of your business You have absolutely no rights or say in how they conduct their affairs or whom they invite to THEIR land.
End of story.
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