Saturday, November 17th 2012 - 06:12 UTC

Planning for when the 2016 airport, St Helena after closer links with Faklands

A top official from St Helena will be visiting the Falkland Islands next month to explore ways that the governments of the two British Overseas Territories can collaborate and looking ahead to when the mid Atlantic volcanic island will have an international airport.

St Helena airport building is cleared for take-off (Pics by St. Helena Online)

A new design for St Helena’s proposed airport terminal has been unanimously approved by executive councillors at a special meeting (31 July 2012).

Chief Executive for Economic Development for St Helena and former General Manager of the Falklands Development Corporation, Julian Morris will spend four days in the Islands with meetings scheduled from 3 December to and including Thursday 6 December.

A milestone in St Helena history is taking place currently with the construction of an airport which is contracted to open in February 2016 definitively putting an end to its centuries’ isolation be it not for a monthly sea link with South Africa.

It is envisaged that the airport will lead to greater developments with tourism, fisheries and in the wider economy.

Mr Morris will hold formal and informal briefings with Members of the Legislative Assembly, senior officials and members of the public about St Helena developments.

A number of presentations are scheduled including a presentation at the Chamber of Commerce Monday 3rd December, a public update on Tuesday 4th December and a MPA update on Wednesday 5th December.

Mr Morris will also inform Falklands businesses about investment opportunities on St Helena and explore ways that the Governments of the Falkland Islands and St Helena can collaborate.

Last 3 November marked one year since the start of the St Helena airport which is expected to transform the economy of the island at the most exciting and important period of St Helena history for over 150 years.

The airport project Director Janet Lawrence said that construction is on budget and specifications which includes the completion of the temporary jetty as well as a temporary fuel storage facility and work has begun on the haul road to Prosperous Bay Plain.

The Falklands and St Helena have close relations going back to the South Atlantic conflict when many St Helenians were contracted to help with reconstruction after the war and some stayed on, married locals and became part of the community.

Falklands’ fishing companies are also involved in St Helena, and with the opening of the airport links are expected to become closer and more intense.
 

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1 Think (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 07:55 am Report abuse
TWIMC

Article says:
“............................closer links with Faklands”

Article should say:
“............................closed links with Faklands”
Why?
1) In the last decade, the Saint population in the Malvinas/Falkland Islands has DECLINED by 40-50%. That coincides with them being granted UK citizenship in 2002.
2) The Saints simply H-A-T-E the climate on them Islands.
3) The Saints simply H-A-T-E the borderline racist immigration rules on them Islands.
4) The Saints would simply L-O-V-E to return to St. Helena if jobs are to be found.
5) The Saints can now freely “escape” to Britain if jobs are not available or if their “Close Knitted Community” becomes too “Closed Knitted”.......
(Do you catch my drift, Kelpers?)

O-V-E to return to St. Helena if jobs are to be found.
5) The new airport, most certainly is going to create those jobs.
2 stick up your junta (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 08:41 am Report abuse
20016 thats when the oil is going to flow aint it Think? the Falklanders will have enough money to hire argie pool cleaners for their heated swimming pools
3 Think (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 08:58 am Report abuse
Ooooooooooooooooops.......

Anybody mentioned “First Oil” in 2017 ?
Anybody heard the rumours about “Scotia” ?
Anybody has another explanation for yesterdays plunge ?

:-)))
4 Teaboy2 (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 09:00 am Report abuse
@1 Errr Think - There never was a SAINTS population in the Falklands, only a Falkland islanders population. The SAINTS population live on St Helena, they always have done!
5 stick up your junta (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 09:07 am Report abuse
@3

Think the poor mans oracle, wasnt it you that said the airport wasnt going to get off the ground? anyways thinking of starting a job's fare in BA for domestics for the Falklands :-)
6 Lord Ton (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 09:26 am Report abuse
Things not going well for you Think?

I told you a long time ago that the new airport would make a difference.

If only in the time it too for the RAF to get to the Falklands.

New airport + deep water port facilities = Who needs SA ??

:-)
7 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 09:29 am Report abuse
Most of what Think says in 1 is correct. Like I asked Denny Berger though in response to his revelation about the UK's multi cultural mix: what's your point? Is it that you would think we would be concerned about the figures and would be trying to prevent them from being released?

Like most of Think's stories, he only talked of the declining St Helenian population. He didn't talk about how quickly his closest neighbours from Chile filled the void and are only too happy to live and work here. And we're only too happy to have them.

Dear oh dear Think. Bitter n twisted?
8 Think (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 09:52 am Report abuse
Turnips in action….:

First, “Millionaire” British Turnip Number (4) saying that there is no Saint population on them Islands!......
I’ll quote from the Malvinas Census 2006 / Table 11:
Population by Country of Birth: St. Helena: 394
www.falklands.gov.fk//documents/Census%20Report%202006.pdf
The complete Malvinas Census 2012 is not yet available on Internet…
Reliable sources tell us that the Saint population in Malvinas today is not bigger than ~250 souls……

Then, “Stick Up” Turnip (5) saying that: “I said the airport wasn’t going to get off the ground.”
Well..... I, “Mr. Think” never said such thing.... MercoPress archive is open to anybody asserting the contrary....

Then we come to Non Turnip, ex copper Mr. Lorton at (6) commenting about some improved but irrelevant military flight capabilities to them Islands......

Fact is that Saints are leaving Malvinas in large numbers....
Increased job opportunities in their Home Island will only accelerate that process....
In the meantime, they are replaced by Chileans, who greatly contribute to the much overdued Latinization of Puerto Estanley...
Chuckle chuckle©
9 LightThink (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 09:58 am Report abuse
No doubt that St Helena is far more than Falklands to Cape Town especially for the mixed “” Dany,Conqueror,Chris and nano name Teaboy “” trio.
10 British_Kirchnerist (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 10:04 am Report abuse
#1 ”3) The Saints simply H-A-T-E the borderline racist immigration rules on them Islands“

Indeed, but then we couldn't have an area the size of Wales with a population of, what was it, 400 outside Stanley, ”swamped”, could we? The Falklands are full up, like Britain, don't ya know!
11 Think (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 10:07 am Report abuse
“”Dany, Conqueror, Chris and Teaboy “” is no doubt far more for the especially mixed nano name than that Falklands, Cape Town to St Helena trio.

Now, it does make even less sense ;-)))
12 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 10:31 am Report abuse
8 Think

I still agree with most of that. I don't have a problem with it. Nor does the Falkland Islands Government. In fact they were quite supportive of the big Sodexho changeover back in the early noughties when the Saints were offered jobs for higher wages in Germany (working for Sodexho) while Chileans were offered jobs for triple their wages in the Falklands (working for Sodexho).

The day of interviews at Hotel Jose Nogueira in Puntas Arenas, Chile there was chaos. A few notices had been placed advising people who may be interested in working in the Falklands to turn up at the hotel. The only problem was that over 1000 people turned up and the queues went 3 blocks. The hotel was swamped but that was soon taken care of and everyone was happy in the end.

Still not sure what Think's point is.
13 JustinKuntz (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 10:43 am Report abuse
Think never has a point, he is just a troll spitting bile. Think he is compensating for some inadequacy.
14 Think (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 10:51 am Report abuse
(12) Joe Bloggs

Think's point No. 1 is...:
Article says:
“St. Helena ............................closer links with Faklands”
Article should say:
“St. Helena.............................closed links with Faklands”

Think's point No. 2 is...:
When Argentina succeeds on stagnating the Islands economy, the first to be fired/repatriated/deported will be the Chilean “Gastarbeiters”.

Think's point No. 3 is...:
When Argentina succeeds on stagnating the Islands economy, the next to dissapear back home will be the Pom rubble without status, followed by many educated and ambitious Kelper youthlings.

Those are my points......
15 stick up your junta (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 11:32 am Report abuse
Think's point No. 3 is...:
When Argentina succeeds on stagnating the Islands economy,.

Like how you are going to Sabotage the Islands as a cruise destination?
Cruises visiting Port Stanley, Falkland Islands during February 2014
www.cruisetimetables.com/visitingportstanleyfalklandislands-feb2014.html

Now that is something you predicted would happen a couple of years ago Think :-)))))))))
16 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 11:35 am Report abuse
14 Think
OK. Good luck with that.

15 stick up your junta
I like a man with a vision.
17 slattzzz (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 11:37 am Report abuse
Stink how are you going to stagnate the islands economy. You've been trying for years with no success in fact the islands get stronger by the month. Anyway CFK is to busy stagnating rgenweener's economy
18 Lord Ton (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 12:04 pm Report abuse
“When Argentina succeeds on stagnating the Islands economy ...”

Still relying on that old strategy Think?

How many moves ???
19 Islander1 (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 12:14 pm Report abuse
Think - Can I clarfy your claims a bit! decrease in St Helenians working in the islands is the result of economies having to be made by the civilian UK contractors at the Mount Pleasant Base - cuttting staff numbers and the passage costs of recruiting Chileans and Peruvians is cheaper! And many have gone to Europe as Joe says. Actually they have always had no real problem with entering UK to work-even before 2002 - that just made it official.
In Stanley the number grows each year of St Helenians who qualify for permanent resedency and Islander Status - so maybe some fill in census forms as islanders now - who knows?
Naturally some have returned home to work on the new airport and good for them. Anyone would think their new airport and future is all part of an Arg funded plan to hit the Falklands the way you portray it!!!!!!!!!!!
As for your claim of Latinization of us! Long before southern Arg became part of Argentina we have been eating empanadas and asados and riding colorado or alazan horses with bastos and caversadas in the camp(o)! A bit late there Think.
Good luck to St Helena and their new airport and a future. Long overdue.
20 Think (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 12:16 pm Report abuse
(13) Justin(hishead)Kuntz
The first poster on MercoPress to cover me with insults some two years ago!
I can see that you continue to find inadequacies on anybody not agreeing 100% with your personal points of view…
I can also see that you finally “Quitted” Wikipedia….
What happened…? Couldn’t you bear the inadequacies of all the rest of Wikipedians?

Turnip number (15) changes now his “Cunning Stategy”…….
He doesn’t lie outright anymore…..
Now he “grossly modifies” what has been written….
Some two years ago I speculated about the best medium/long term strategy and actions to cripple the Malvinas Cruising Business….
A few of those mentioned actions have been taken during the 2011/12Season….
Let’s see what 2012/13 Cruise Season brings…. Shall we?
And, as I said before; MercoPress’s archive is open to anybody asserting the contrary....

(16) Joe Bloggs
Thanks for wishing me luck….
But luck is not so relevant at the moment….
The last drill is going on at Scotia and it certainly is beginning to smell like a Patagonian Dust Storm….

(18) Mr. Lorton
Ten moves to check mate when your Black Scotia Queen bites the dust.
21 DanyBerger (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 12:20 pm Report abuse
What about a kebab, pyjamas and curry embargo?

That sure will drive them bloody mad at least...
22 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 12:23 pm Report abuse
19 Islander1
Well said.

20 Think
Time to reactivate your chum Captain Birdseye, Royal Navy retired.
23 slattzzz (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 12:33 pm Report abuse
Joe please tell think doesn't associate himself with the Royal Navy, I couldn't take the embarrasment if he did
24 JohnCFI (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 12:39 pm Report abuse
Lets correct a figure ot two. St Helenian numbers in the Falklands have contracted by 40-50%. Not true, Whilst there have been some job reductions (as MPA has reduced size and requirements), and a significant number of 'Saints' have integrated into FI Community by Marriage or Citizenship, the biggest change has been as a result of St Helena and the rest of the BOTs regaining FULL British Citizenship, and so fall within the British Citizen numbers and are no longer recorded or reported seperately.

Which also blows apart any suggestion of adverse racist treatment. 'Saints' and 'Brits' are treated exactly alike for legal and immigration purposes.

Saints would love to return to St Helena, of course so, just like the English love to return to England and I expect Argentines to Argentina, whats wrong with that.

St Helenians have been able to go to work in Britain ever since there has been a jobs market, and a great many have done so, an estimate a few years ago reckoned there were three time the number of 'Saints' in Britain than on St Helena. Other long standing job markets have been Ascension Island and South Africa. For St Helena exporting it's labour force is what has served to assist the economy, as a small island with little or no natural resourses, the Population has had to learn to adapt to that. I have to say that one of the happiest overseas 'Saint' communities is the one on the Falklands. No doubt as links evolve integration will increase further.
25 JIB (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 12:42 pm Report abuse
That means Lan flight from Chile will no longer be needed?. Interesting.
26 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 12:44 pm Report abuse
23 slatzzz

No no. Haven't you seen his old chum on here. SparrowoverSlough? The truly bitter guy who claims he is ex Royal Navy. Been to the Falklands a couple of times, maybe more so thinks that makes him an expert on all things Falkland Islands.

Him and Think go back to the days when men were built of steel and ships were built of wood and together they share a bitterness towards the Falklands. Sparrow thinks we should all be on our knees grovelling for the odd piece of crust thrown down to us by the FCO and Think prefers the 70's when our parents were “seen and not heard” and didn't try to improve our lot.

Surely you've read the ramblings of the two of them. Well, maybe not.
27 stick up your junta (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 12:48 pm Report abuse
A few of those mentioned actions have been taken during the 2011/12Season….
Let’s see what 2012/13 Cruise Season brings…. Shall we?

Way to go Think , bit kamakazi mind, keep up the good work :-)))))

28 FEB 2012: Argentina turned away two Carnival Corp. cruise ships
Turning away the ships meant losing a hefty financial loss for Ushuaia’s taxi drivers, tour operators, wildlife guides and restaurant and boutique workers who had arranged to work on Monday's Argentine national holiday to cater to the more than 5,000 passengers.
28 Santa Fe (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 12:53 pm Report abuse
Good work st Helena can wait to visit. Will the FI raf flights call in for a visit on the way south.
29 reality check (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 12:53 pm Report abuse
@27
It's called cutting your nose off to spite your face and you would be hard pushed to find a better example of it, anywhere else in the world.
30 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 12:54 pm Report abuse
27 stick up your junta

I can assure you that no cruise ships will be stopped for political reasons in 12/13.
31 slattzzz (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 12:56 pm Report abuse
@26 LOL no Joe haven't read thier ramblings i tend not to read stinks delusional posts after all that would be 30 secs of my life wasted
32 Lord Ton (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 12:58 pm Report abuse
Still 10 moves ?? But with an added 'when'.

It'll always be 10 moves away Think ..... just out of reach. Always has been.

But that's life :-)
33 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 01:00 pm Report abuse
24 JohnCFI
I thought you'd be drawn into this. Thanks for clarifying things and good luck to you all as the Napoleon International Airport gets fully under way. Can't wait to see it.

28 Santa Fe
Most unlikely that the RAF flight will go there. The runway on St Helena is going to be a bit short. There is talk of Ascension being a diversion for the flight to St Helena but vice versa is less likely. Given the distances being considered the largest aircraft likely to use St Helena will be a 757.
34 Think (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 01:04 pm Report abuse
(19) Islander1

Please…… don’t start, again, with your small convenient white lies....

You say:
“….. they (The Saints) have always had no real problem with entering UK to work-even before 2002 - that just made it official.
I say:
Next you will tell me that: “….. We (The Kelpers) have always had no real problem with entering UK to work-even before 1983 - that just made it official.”

You say further:
”……maybe some (Saints) fill in census forms as islanders now - who knows?”
I say:
Who knows............, you ask ???
Well..., let's start with the Census Authorities... They should bloody know!
That’s the whole meaning with a Census…...... Isn’t it?
Besides, if any born Saint Helenian filled his Census form as “Born in Malvinas/Falklands”, he would be lying, wouldn’t he?

3) As long as you, Kelper bunch, don’t drink mate amargo and repel the Brutish usurpers, you are not Latino enough, chay ;-)
35 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 01:07 pm Report abuse
33

Ps. The runway is being designed for 737/ A320 size aircraft but it could take a 757 at a stretch.
36 Think (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 01:18 pm Report abuse
(30) Joe Bloggs
You say:
I can assure you that no cruise ships will be stopped for political reasons in 12/13.
I say:
Hmmm.... Interesting….. Will have to ”mark” this one …. √√√…. Done :-)

(32) Lord Ton
You say:
It'll always be 10 moves away Think .....
I say:
Not quite so…........... I told you: Twelve (12) moves in 2011, lad….
Nobody ever said this would be a ”Quicky”
That's life :-)
37 slattzzz (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 01:24 pm Report abuse
quite a few St Helena people in the Royal Navy actually @34 does it really matter they are all dual citizens Falklands, St Helena /British after all and as such have the freedom to travel between thier islands and Britain as they wish, hence thier passports are British with the said Overseas territory stated on it, I myself was born in Bermuda and have duel citizenship, but my passport says British so whats your problem Stink. The green eyed monster has really got a grip on you eh?
38 Doveoverdover (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 01:27 pm Report abuse
@22 How did you know that was what they called me behind my back?
@23 Ahoy, shipmate. Don't forget to pay your RNA subs this year.
@26 Back to when Centurion was a rank not a tank, if you don't mind. That's why I know a colony when I guard one. As for the FCO throwing you a crust, is that the same FCO that you've had the privilege of watching close up as their best and brightest confounded sundry foreign governments on your behalf? Ungrateful colonist, its about time you started paying your way.
@14 I think you've jackknifed the pantomime horse with that one. I have a strong feeling that both ends will be in the knackers yard before Argentina succeeds on stagnating the Islands economy
39 slattzzz (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 01:34 pm Report abuse
@38 paid for out of my considerable Navy pension cheers :)
40 JohnCFI (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 01:45 pm Report abuse
@34 Moron

The Census asked for 'nationality' not 'nationality at birth'. As my wife and I naturalised as a Falkland Islanders in 2007, we naturally put Falkland Islander in answer, on the previous census I put 'British' and my wife put 'St Helenian'. Would that be clear enough for you.

Oh, and my good wife said to tell you she absolutely loves the climate here.
41 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 02:01 pm Report abuse
37 slatzzz see 38 and see what I mean. Full of shit.
42 slattzzz (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 02:06 pm Report abuse
Got you mate another oxygen thief
43 Doveoverdover (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 02:11 pm Report abuse
@39 Good to know you are up to date with your subs. Even with my measly pittance of an index linked pension, which must be a small fraction of your Admiral's pension, I pay my subs up front. Never know when you might need a bit of benevolence. Still, small as it is I value it and would very much like to keep it as it is, for the sake of both me and Mrs DoD. In these hard times it would be best if the UK Government didn't risk spending it on garrisoning ungrateful but loaded colonies who won't reimburse them for the defence, judicial and diplomatic services they receive.
44 Martin Woodhead (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 02:15 pm Report abuse
When does argentina start its claim for st helenia?
45 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 02:19 pm Report abuse
43

I've told you several times but you conveniently overlook it. We are waiting for the day when we can repay the UK for our defence and we will do so. Our politicians are on public record saying so. Sort of erodes away the need for the bitterness which I think is really driven, in your case, by something else.
46 slattzzz (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 02:24 pm Report abuse
@43 no just a Chiefs pension indexed linked in two years, never made admiral just like you never made it through the entrance exam, Royal Navy, you? fookin dream on, anyway pay by direct debit it's cheaper and you don't have to worry about it.
47 reality check (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 02:24 pm Report abuse
Googled St Helena earlier, I have to confess, apart from the Napoleon connection, I knew very little about the place. I would say with the right marketing, once the airport opens, St Helena would definately be a destination for those who enjoy travel or holidays to unusual destinations. Not to mention for those French admirers of Les Emperor. Now there's a market for a start, visit the location where Napoleon spent his last days.
All in all, the airport should prove to be a boon for Islanders and good luck to them I say!
48 LightThink (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 02:30 pm Report abuse
Apartheid (Aparthood) is an Afrikaans word for a system of racial segregation enforced through legislation by the South Africa National Party Governments.
49 Think (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 02:33 pm Report abuse
( 40) JohnCFI

You say:
”The Census asked for 'nationality' not 'nationality at birth'.
....on the previous census (2006) I put 'British' and my wife put 'St Helenian'. Would that be clear enough for you.

I say:

1) No, the Census asked for A: 'Nationality' and B: 'Place of Birth'.

2) ..on the previous census (2006) , when asked about your “Nationality” you put 'British' and your wife put 'St Helenian'.
That is clear enough for me......

3) ..on the last census (2012) , when asked about your “Nationality” you put 'Falkland Islander' and your wife put “Falkland Islander”.
That is clear enough for me too......

3) ....on the previous census (2006) , when asked about your “Place of Birth” you put 'Great Britain' and your wife put 'St Helena'.
Is that correctly asumed.....?

4) I must asume that on the last census (2012) , when asked about your “Place of Birth” you still put 'Great Britain' and your wife still put 'St Helena'.
Is that correctly asumed or are you both “Newborn Falkland Islanders”?

Do you catch my drift.

Ps:
Give my regards to your good wife..... and tell her that I'm having a difficult time believing the bit about her love to the Malvinas climate.......
50 reality check (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 02:39 pm Report abuse
Longwood House, Napoleons home on the island, still exists and is owned by the French Government. Courtesy of Google. Now if that is not a tourist magnate, love to know what is?
51 slattzzz (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 02:46 pm Report abuse
@49 are you thick read your own post and realise you have answered your own question, place of birth will never change
52 Think (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 02:57 pm Report abuse
(51) slattzzz

Don't say!
Please tell poster (40) JohnCFI about that.....
He doesn't seem to know.
53 slattzzz (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 02:59 pm Report abuse
he didn't say that, all he said was nationality had changed not nationality of birth
54 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 03:05 pm Report abuse
50 RC

Napoleon will be a key part of their marketing strategy. As well as the French connection there are several other good quality touristic features for them to sell to the world.
55 Think (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 03:08 pm Report abuse
(53) slattzzz
Try following the thread....:
Post (19)
Post (34)
Post (40)
Post (49)
Before opining about something you haven't even read and embarrasing yourself....
56 reality check (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 03:22 pm Report abuse
JB
Agree, it has only been the isolation of the Islands that has kept his numerous admirers, I understand there are a lot of them, from visiting the Island. The equivelent of Elvis fans visiting Gracelands. I hope the Islands themselfs will take the lead and benefit the most from what is after all, the most famous of reasons why are known to the rest of the world.
57 Conqueror (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 03:28 pm Report abuse
@14 What a shame that Twinky doesn't have the brain of a bent Patagonian weasel. Should we look at how successful argieland has been at “stagnating the Islands economy”? Well, it hasn't been, has it? All argieland has succeeded in doing is advertising the Islands as a place for opportunities and demonstrating that they are criminals. Just think. Before the argies got started, there was only a marginal interest in an oil industry. Argies have been remarkably successful in persuading the Islanders to diversify. And now a deep-water port! All signs of stagnation. Well done, argies!
@25 More threats? Can argieland do anything else? Here's a project for you. List the aircraft that can fly from the UK to the Falklands without landing or refuelling.
@43 You need to be more up to date. In the first place, the defence of the Falkland Islands, like that of every other BOT, is Britain's responsibility. A responsibility we are more than glad to take. In the second place, the Falkland Islands have already said that they are more than willing to pay for their defence when they have the money. So when the oil billions are flowing in, the Islanders will make their contribution. It's not a problem. Except for some bitter, twisted “people”.
@49 Desperation from a bitter, twisted genocide. How does it feel walking over the blood and bones of all the people you dispossessed and/or murdered? And now you want to do it again somewhere else? Not a chance, sonny!
58 slattzzz (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 03:29 pm Report abuse
Stink try reading back your own posts before embarrasing yourself. The Census asked for 'nationality' not 'nationality at birth'. As my wife and I naturalised as a Falkland Islanders in 2007, we naturally put Falkland Islander in answer, on the previous census I put 'British' and my wife put 'St Helenian'. so if at the last census they put where they were born how can they be newborn falkland islanders, they are new naturalised Falkland islanders by choice not birth.
59 LightThink (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 03:47 pm Report abuse
-57

First tell your apartheid not others genocides which you have no idea on them.
60 Think (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 03:47 pm Report abuse
Juppppp….
Many good reasons to visit St. Helena Imperial Prison Island alright…

If you are French(ic), Napoleon….
If You are African(ic), Chief Dinizulu...
f you are Arab(ic), the Barahani princesses…
If you are German(ic), the thousands of Boer prisoners…

Many good reasons indeed……
61 reality check (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 03:52 pm Report abuse
Think
Boers are of Dutch descent, not German. They would be the first to point that out.
62 slattzzz (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 04:04 pm Report abuse
@60 the green eyed monster raises it's ugly head again, more tourism away from rgenweener PS Boers are Dutch matey :)
63 Think (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 04:06 pm Report abuse
(61) reality check
Dear Turnip.....
Please learn to read English
I wrote “Germanic”.....
The Dutch ar of Gernmanic origin....
As the Angles are...
And the Saxons
Ever heard of the Anglo-Saxons?
64 JohnCFI (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 04:17 pm Report abuse
@49 Dense

I won't bother to comment on the nationality thing. clearly beyond you feeble abilties. Others have tried to educate you and failed.

I do however know my wife somewhat better than you, the fact that we have been here for almost 14 years testifies to how we love the place weather and all. My Missus would have been the first to voice her opinion if she didnt like it.

I don't suppose your chauvanistic self would stoop low enought to actually think a woman might have a valid opinion!!

She also says that she would expect nothing else from a Malvinist, the truth is told directly to you and still you doubt it. I would add that that is what defines you as a nation!

I guess it would surprise you to find out that many decendants of the Boers (Dutch decendants BTW) still live on the Island as St Helenians. And that the current Princess Dinizulu visits often, St Helena being one of her favourite places.

Culture, something you appear to lack as you mock!
65 slattzzz (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 04:19 pm Report abuse
@63 same as rg are spanish then :)
66 Think (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 04:43 pm Report abuse
(64) JohnCFI

1) The name is ”Tink”,... not ”Moron” ...nor ”Dense”……. ”Think”….. T-H-I-N-K…… Comprende?

2) If I didn’t knew better i would ”Think” you are trying to insult me, not educate me.

3) I must, of course, bow to your greater knowledge of your Missus tastes…..But I still reserve the right to say that most Saints detest the Malvinas climate (at least eight months of it)

4) Me chauvinist....? Nooooo way… I’m as British minded as this guy :-)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=imTroiDQIog&feature=context-shows&list=SL
67 slattzzz (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 04:45 pm Report abuse
stinks getting all defensive now bless
68 Think (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 04:50 pm Report abuse
Turnips often mistake politeness with weakness.....
69 Santa Fe (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 05:16 pm Report abuse
68... We note your constant need to try to prove your intelligence , like an over eager child in school. what a shame most of the facts you post are utter hogwash , just think if you had finished school you may have got yourself a proper job, not hunched over a computer trolling for dollar!
Your constant mentioning of population census reminds me of a Simpsons episode in the court house, when the brief used the Star Wars defence classic
70 Think (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 05:21 pm Report abuse
(65) slattzzz

Close enough.....
There is a reason why we are called Latin-America,you know?
71 Santa Fe (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 05:23 pm Report abuse
68... Correction it was the Chewbacca Defense in South Park, but I suppose you already knew that being proper clever and all that.
72 slattzzz (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 05:29 pm Report abuse
@70 we know thats why the only true South Americans are the Indians you disposed of, and may I say as an add on, after we had discovered the Falkland Islands
73 Teaboy2 (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 06:02 pm Report abuse
@8 so what think, just because less St helenas have immigrated to the falklands it doesn't mean their population on the falklands has decreased, they will have had their own children and gran children in the falklands, therefore increasing their population in the falklands. All your post proved is that less were born in st Helena it doesn't prove the number of those with st helena ancestry has decreased though. Plus once the move to the falklands they become falkland islanders just like if i moved their from the UK.

As for me being a millionaire, well i fail to see your need to bring that up, obviously your just jealous. But end of the day Think i started with no money other than job seekers allwance and made my own fortune within 3 years, if i can do it then anyone can do it even you if you had the balls to get of your arse and do something about it, instead of sitting around doing nothing in the hope you win the lottery or someone else will do the hard work for you.
74 Think (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 06:03 pm Report abuse
(72) slattzzz
OMG.......
Here we go again......

One representant of the most successful murderous European tribe (The Germanic Anglo-Saxons)…..
Speaking badly about the next best murdering Tribe of Europe (The Latin/Celt Iberians).

After shamelessly slaughtering each other for millennia , the various murderous tribes of Europe decided to expand their killing activities to the West, East, South and North.......

Remember, Turnips.....
Every time you point a finger three are pointing back at you.
Don't you believe me?
Try it!
75 reality check (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 06:09 pm Report abuse
@63 Think
Have it your way, but I will tell you now, having lived in the Netherlands for several years and given the recent history of the area, the last people on the planet, the dutch consider themselfs to be, is Germanic.
76 Think (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 06:21 pm Report abuse
(75) reality check

Is there no end for the ignorance of the British Turnips about their own European History and Geography?
Now you are confusing “GERMANIC” with “GERMAN”
For your info...
The English, the Dutch, the Danes, the Swedes, the Norwegians etc. are GERMANIC Peoples....
The English language, the Dutch language, the Danish language, the Swedish language, the Norwegian language etc.are GERMANIC Languages...

Capisce?
77 reality check (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 06:39 pm Report abuse
No I am not confused, I typed Germanic, I meant Germanic.

My personal favourite, the Greatest Boer that ever lived and the father of the British Royal Air Force. Jan SMUTS.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Smuts
78 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 06:39 pm Report abuse
76

Do you mean other people don't think something is as important as you do? Ungrateful, greedy, thieving colonials! Have a chat with your chum about the halcyon days, get the slides out and open a nice bottle of something. Take it easy for a night. Nothing will happen to the grand plan if your not at the helm for a spell.
79 dab14763 (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 06:44 pm Report abuse
Think says:

1) In the last decade, the Saint population in the Malvinas/Falkland Islands has DECLINED by 40-50%. That coincides with them being granted UK citizenship in 2002.

2012 Census report says:

There has been a decline in the proportion of the population from St. Helena (now 10.4% compared to
13.1% in 2006)

I do some checking:

2001 census born in St Helena 113
2006 census -------”-------- 394 (13.1% of 3000 total number present)
2012 census -------”-------- 326 (my calculation based on 10.4% of 3136 total number present)

I do some arithmetic:

2001 -> 2006 Saints' pop increased by 348%
2006 -> 2012 -----“------ declined by 17%
2001 -> 2012 -----”---- increased by 288%

I realise a decade to 2012 is 2003 - 2012

So I do some more arithmetic:

For the Saints' pop to decline by 40-50% in the last decade it would have to have been between 543 and 652 in 2003

Was there a very large increase in the Saints' population between 2001 and 2003 followed by a drastic drop between 2003 and 2006 which is not reflected in the census change between 2001 and 2006?
80 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 06:51 pm Report abuse
Don't worry about what Think says. Even if he can prove what he says is true, there is no point to it. Around the entire globe different ethnic workforces come and go and give different countries their unique flavour.

Let's leave Think to it. If he's right and the Falklands has had to rely on a huge influx of South Americans who are now going to overwhelm our culture, it will all be revealed in March when we go to the polls.
81 reality check (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 07:06 pm Report abuse
@76 Think
English is a West Germanic language accordinding to Wiki.

Which, suprise! suprise! then goes on to say English is a mixture of Roman Latin, Saxon (Ah there's the Germanic bit), Norman French and Norse. Completely ignores the Celtic influence. Confusing is it not, says one thing then on the same page says something else. English is not solely a Gemanic language, but a bastardisation of all the languages of those nationalities that settled here.
82 stick up your junta (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 07:38 pm Report abuse
@ Think , The Boers are a mixture of French Huguenot, Dutch, German and Flemish. if it helps :-)
83 Anbar (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 07:52 pm Report abuse
“”“”Still not sure what Think's point is.“”“”

I'm still not sure what anybody;s point is so far....

especially unsure on how one of the Think-Gestalt has become a de-facto speaker for all opinion of St Helenians....

(I reckon he just made it up..... )
84 Pete Bog (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 07:55 pm Report abuse
@43
“who won't reimburse them for the defence, judicial and diplomatic services they receive.”
Firstly in the future the UK may well be reimbursed for the defence costs by the FIG.
Until the Falkland Islanders build up their economy it would be unfair for them to meet their defence costs.
By this logic, has the UK recieved anything from, Seirra Leone for their liberation? Or Libya?
Or should the UK insist that when HM forces provide any service be it famine relief, arresting pirates, rescuing people that it should now send a bill to those people.
Where do you draw the line?
What we should be doing more vigourosuly is to claim back money that Argentina has borrowed off the UK and not paid back, which amounts to several £millions .
The Argentines are the reason for the defence expenditure to protect the Falkland Islands, the fault lies at their door.
They are to blame.
Why don't we claim the costs of the 1982 war from Argentina?
They started the war.
That would go someway to paying the defence costs of the Falklands.
85 Anbar (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 07:58 pm Report abuse
“””(I reckon he just made it up..... )“”“

OOps, I should've read the thread in full

He DID just make it all up - rofl ;-0

en.mercopress.com/2012/11/17/planning-for-when-the-2016-airport-st-helena-after-closer-links-with-faklands#comment188427

I ”Think“ that the ”Think” gestalt has being showing a lot of lower quality postings recently... they keep getting ace'd within a few posts.... it's terrible dull.

c'mon, this is supposed to be entertainment..try harder el thinko-gestalters!!!!
86 dab14763 (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 08:25 pm Report abuse
'@76 Think
English is a West Germanic language accordinding to Wiki.'

Reality,

So are German and Dutch.

West Germanic languages, North Germanic languages, and the East Germanic languages, which have no native speakers, are all collectively Germanic languages.

'Which, suprise! suprise! then goes on to say English is a mixture of Roman Latin, Saxon (Ah there's the Germanic bit), Norman French and Norse. Completely ignores the Celtic influence. Confusing is it not, says one thing then on the same page says something else. English is not solely a Gemanic language, but a bastardisation of all the languages of those nationalities that settled here.'

Norse is a North Germanic Language

Norman French has Germanic influences from the Norse speakers who settled in Normandy (NORman) because they came from the North ie Scandinavia. French itself has Germanic influences from the Franks who settled in France and gave the country its name.

There is very little Celtic influence on the English language. Just a few words.

English is a Germanic language because its grammar and structure are Germanic. Latinate influence (directly from Latin or indirectly from French) has been primarily in vocabulary, not grammar or structure.

'@ Think , The Boers are a mixture of French Huguenot, Dutch, German and Flemish. if it helps :-)'

Stick,

Mostly Dutch. And Afrikaans is also mostly of Dutch ancestry.
87 mohamed yamin (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 08:36 pm Report abuse
well, it seems that after 189 years they found some money...
slow minds ah?
88 reality check (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 08:55 pm Report abuse
@86
Thanks, well explained. in my case being Welsh, the Celtic influence is, as you would know, is present in both our language and culture and before you ask, no I do not speak my native tongue. However it is most certainly making a come back in the south, most of my families children and nearly all of their grand children now speak it, but not as their first language.
89 mohamed yamin (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 09:01 pm Report abuse
I hope the islanders finds some money to build a 5 star hotel...
talking about airports, the best airports are the one in Singapore and the one in Bs.As.
90 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 09:24 pm Report abuse
89

Sussie?
91 Doveoverdover (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 09:27 pm Report abuse
@84 Sierra Leone is not a British colony anymore and Libya and Argentina never were but anyway they are, all three, independent sovereign states, not British sovereign territory populated by British citizens.

Back to first principles. It is the duty of the British Government to, among other things, defend the Realm and the People against internal and external threats and to manage relations with other States. To do this it raises revenue through taxes. Now, some people are poor and are exempt direct taxation but even they are liable to indirect taxation. Some other people, though, are very lucky to live in British territory with favourable tax regimes . They are popularly called “tax havens” and they are not very popular with those who don't live there, even the ones that don't need garrisoning on a one for one basis. There is a real possibility that the Falkland Islands will drift into “tax haven” status if UK tax payers don't remain vigilant and UK politicians don't put in place checks to prevent this from happening.

Now, I've seen it written several times that FI local politicians have promised to pay a contribution to the UK when they think they can afford it. I don't think that is good enough. I would much prefer to see Ms Granger including the debt to the UK as an item in the Annual Financial Statement for all to see. That way there would be transparency where there is darkness; certainty where there is hope, fairness where there is inequity and gratitude where there is none.

@88 Go on, admit it , you do speak your native tongue don't you or have you been struck dumb late in life?
92 dab14763 (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 09:31 pm Report abuse
Reality,

Point taken on the Welsh influence. No doubt there's Welsh influence on Welsh English. And Scottish Gaelic influence on both Scottish English and Scots, and Irish influence on Irish English. But much less so on English English, American English, Australian English, etc which make up the largest part of the language.
93 reality check (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 09:49 pm Report abuse
@91
I do not speak Welsh, if my great, great grand father could come back, he would tell you why, but here's a hint, courtesy of Wiki, yet again.

In the later 19th century virtually all teaching in the schools of Wales was in English, even in areas where the pupils barely understood English. Some schools used the Welsh Not, a piece of wood, often bearing the letters “WN”, which was hung around the neck of any pupil caught speaking Welsh. The pupil could pass it on to any schoolmate heard speaking Welsh, with the pupil wearing it at the end of the day being given a beating. Many tried in vain to get rid of this bigotry.

That is only one of the reasons why the Welsh Language declined, especially in the industrialised South, where its use was forbidden by the owners of the Mines, Iron works etc. Speak English or watch your family starve, not much of a choice.

I look at it like cultural ethnic cleansing, but thanks to the topography of our country. it failed miserably in Mid and North Wales.
94 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 09:49 pm Report abuse
91

You need about as much luck as Think does if you ever think you're going to get what you want.
95 toooldtodieyoung (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 09:53 pm Report abuse
90 Joe Bloggs

89 Sussie!

1 Think

Are you getting upset because, if all goes well, the Falklands Islands will be even LESS dependant on the air bridge from Chile, subject to the mood swings of Ol' Turkey Neck / TMBOA / The Harpy / KFC????

I “Think” you are........Yes, I “Think” you are.... Poor Think........

Me “Thinks” that the Think doth protest too much................
96 briton (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 10:17 pm Report abuse
Hey why you let him pull ya legs,
Come on, 2,000 odd years ago,
The dammed Romans tells you the Germanics were referred to as barbarians, Huns and vandals,
[depends on whose telling it] says cato.

Germany [was not]
The English language was a derivative of several Germanic tribal languages, and slowly evolved over time into what we have to day is English,
So English was in fact created in England, so its pure , from a newly invented language, is concerned,

Can we come back to the 21st century now
,,,,,,
still
the british military will look after st helens and the british falklands,
from those nasty pirat hunters lol.
97 reality check (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 10:29 pm Report abuse
Macro and Cat0. Know what you,ve been reading!!!
98 Islander1 (#) Nov 17th, 2012 - 11:08 pm Report abuse
Think- If so many saints find our climate so bad - why do so many saty for years and years - intermarry- take out status - buy houses - set up businesses ete etc? What am I not understanding here?

Actually I lived and worked in England for several years in the 1960s and 1970s - never a problem that I did not have right of entry into Uk in my Falklands passport?

Mate - jump back 50years and it was indeed a Falklands camp drink at 4 am before going shepherding/gathering. The best Uruguyan brands were on sale in Stanley shops. Largely Died out now - but a few diehards still take it!
Can you name the ships that cancelled their Falklands calls in 2011/12 for political reasons?
I know of 2 that cancelled Argentine calls for political reasons - they went to Chile instead on their way to Stanley!
99 Marcos Alejandro (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 12:55 am Report abuse
“Anybody mentioned “First Oil” in 2017 ?”
UrineHopper update 147.62 -5.00 (-3.29%) 147???
Kelpers, Pray pray and.. pray
100 Monty69 (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 02:23 am Report abuse
91 Doveoverdover

I'm sure you would like that. Let's say oil is never produced here and under your scheme, our 'debt' to Britain increases by £100 million per year. More than that, I mean, you'd have to charge us interest wouldn't you. Do you see that continuing indefinitely? Or would it top out at a few billion? How do you see that playing out at the UN?
I've got an even better idea; why don't you start charging the Afghan government for their defence from the taliban. They haven't got a pot to piss in just now, but they could have anything lurking under all that desert. Libya must be worth a few bob as well, as they have oil flowing already.

As for tax; by what mechanism are you suggesting the UK parliament regulate taxes on the Falkland Islands? And where is your evidence for your assertion that the FI will slip towards 'tax haven status'?

No. This won't do. If oil revenues start to flow, the Falkland Islands will pay what they can afford, not because they are compelled to but because they want to. The days of the mother country expropriating the wealth of the colonies and shipping it back home are gone. I fail to see why you would even begin to think that this was an acceptable stance. Or why you think that this approach would inspire 'gratitude'.

You're a poor old soul aren't you. You're afraid that the Falkland Islanders will keep all that lovely oil money for themselves, but you're even more afraid that we'll hand a big chunk of it over to the UK without being compelled by anyone.
101 Pirate Love (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 02:35 am Report abuse
i take satisfaction from the negative reactions regurgitated from arg-wanna be trolls towards any positive news from The Falklands in the shape of planned proposals that meant development giving more access to the global community ,as we all now argentinas dear leader has only strived to keep The Falkland islanders isolated as much as possible.

FALKLAND NEWSFLASH: a continual prosperous and bright outlook.

Argentina : as part of a future re-housing and irradication programme being developed by the believers in highly successful Kirchner model, all argentines have been asked by their dear leader and supreme majesty Crustina to keep any cosy family size cardboard boxes, and to start practising minimalism.
102 Santa Fe (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 09:03 am Report abuse
99... Lets check the share prices again shall we, it's fluctuated 3.27 percent a sure sign there is no oil and the falklanders will starve. Grasping at straws my troll friends. The FI have one of the best wages per capita already without oil!!! So if your in depth economic investigation which involves quoting share prices is true and there is no oil then they can sit back and enjoy the cruise ships , tourism and fishing revenue, happy days.
103 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 09:04 am Report abuse
I'm glad everyone smells a rat when they read Captain Birdseye's posts now. He is not what he says he is- a British tax payer who is sick of seeing his money wasted on greedy colonials- there is more to it. He's either an Argentine troll or a bitter and twisted Brit who has had a bad personal experience with the Falklands at some time in his life.

If he is annoyed at the money being spent on the Falklands by the UK he must also be very annoyed by the cost to the UK of the airport on St Helena which is currently standing at circa GBP270,000,000 and, as with all such projects, that price can only go in one direction.

Money well spent if you ask me and, if you ask the UK coalilition, because it was this current government amidst their tough but prudent austerity measures who passed it and got it under way.
104 Think (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 09:05 am Report abuse
(100) Monty96

Did you mention :”Tax Haven Status ???

I say:
”Prior to 1966 when the Falkland Islands became a tax haven, you’d have found the capital Puerto Estanley to be a sleepy little backwater…but with tax haven status came almost overnight sophistication. And today, with more than 9,000 mutual funds, 260 banks and 80,000 companies operating through the islands, Puert Estanley is a thriving and exceptionally wealthy hub.

Nice huhhhh?
And you know why it is not so today…?
Because the FIC didn’t have the “Right Friends” at Westminster, back then in the 60`s…:-(
The Cayman Islands lobby though; they certainly did have the “right friends”…!

Sooooo…… Back to reality then….:
Prior to 1966 when the Cayman Islands became a tax haven, you’d have found the capital Georgetown to be a sleepy little backwater…but with tax haven status came almost overnight sophistication. And today, with more than 9,000 mutual funds, 260 banks and 80,000 companies operating through the islands, Georgetown is a thriving and exceptionally wealthy hub.........
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
You say further:
“The days of the Mother Country expropriating the wealth of the colonies and shipping it back home are gone. I fail to see why you would even begin to think that this was an acceptable stance.”

I say:
Nice Anti-Imperialistic, Anti-Exploitation, and Anti-Colonial stance from a British Squatterette…..
May I ask if your brave and laudable stance also applies to the South Sandwich Islands, South Georgia and the British Antarctic Territory, all occupied today by your Mother Country ?
105 Doveoverdover (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 09:51 am Report abuse
@100 “The Falkland Islands will pay what they can afford” makes the place sound like a deadbeat pleading with a creditor for leniency. I refer the lady to the answer I gave earlier. Afghanistan is a sovereign country. If you want to be treated like one, elect a nationalist leader and become one too. There's still time before 21 Nov to get that Referendum question changed.

Interesting idea that I should be more “afraid” of UK coffers being filled than not when my entire personal manifesto is based on the Falkland Islands being an unquestionable UK Overseas Territory with all that means with regard to commitment (expenditure) and ownership of resources (income). Interesting idea but wrong.
106 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 09:56 am Report abuse
How interesting that we can't comment on Pimmy's story.
107 Think (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 10:02 am Report abuse
(106) Joe Bloggs

Seriously now....
Can you post the ISBN number of Pimmy's book...
I't's a “Must Have” for Chrismas but I refuse to buy them from FIC ......

Thanks in advance
El Think
108 Doveoverdover (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 10:04 am Report abuse
@106 I wouldn't have had you down as an IT nerd. Full of surprises you are.
109 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 10:20 am Report abuse
ISBN 1 903402 379
110 Think (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 10:29 am Report abuse
Merci vielmals :-)
111 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 10:31 am Report abuse
De nada
112 Monty69 (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 10:39 am Report abuse
105 Doveoverdover

Firstly, we are not an 'unquestionable' British Overseas Territory. The question about whether we should be one or not can be asked, by us, at any time.
Secondly, I suggest you do some research in the UN documents about the relationship between countries and their overseas territories regarding the ownership and exploitation of their natural resources. Our friends at the FCO understand how it works. Whatever you decide to spend is your own business. We aren't responsible for that.
113 Think (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 10:42 am Report abuse
(109) Joe Bloggs

You devious Squatting Kelper.... ;-)))... You gave me a Wrong Number!!!
“ISBN 1 903402 379 is: A Little Piece of England: My Adventures as Chief Executive of the Fallkland Islands
www.isbnsearch.org/isbn/1903402379”;

Any “Honest Squatting Kelper out her that wants to help Pimmy to sell some books to Argentina?
Please post the “correct” ISBN number for ”The Christmas Sports” book….
Thanks in advance
El Think, Chubut.
Patagonia, Argentina.
114 Doveoverdover (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 10:53 am Report abuse
@112 The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland has no doubt about its sovereignty over the Falkland Islands. (Or has it?)
115 Think (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 11:11 am Report abuse
TWIMC...

Evidently....., Pimmy was to stingy to pay 15£ for an International Standard Book Number (ISBN) for his new book .....
A true Kelper indeed ;-)))

No way then…..
Will have to buy some other Christmas presents……
116 yankeeboy (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 11:36 am Report abuse
Psst, Think your desperation is showing...

How can you buy an Int'l book when you'd have to go to Eze to pick it up, pay the bribe, plus the huge tax...by that time it will take all of your pension won't it?

hahahaha
117 Think (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 11:40 am Report abuse
114 Cmdr. McDod

You say:
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland has no doubt about its sovereignty over the Falkland Islands. (Or has it?)

I say:
But some Kelpers have doubts about the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland sovereignty over the Falkland Islands.
And many of them Kelpers are OBE’s and MBE’s….
And they say that the FCO agrees with them….
A bit strange…, don't you “Think”?
118 Santa Fe (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 12:49 pm Report abuse
117... Ah the Chewbacca Defense again , it's a miracle to behold. did you watch Rumpole of the Bailey as a child. ove the do you 'think' at the end inspired, works on so many levels and it shows your superior intellect jajaja
119 Zethee (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 01:40 pm Report abuse
Think's delusions are becoming even more hilarious as time goes on.

Been telling us for years that Argentina is stagnating the islands. Yet no-one from the islands has noticed this supposed stagnation and oh lookie - Investment from other oil companies , New port being built.

Things are looking up for the islands at the moment.
120 Lord Ton (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 02:12 pm Report abuse
South Georgia, the South Sandwich Islands and British Antarctica are not connected to the Falkland Islands. What the Islanders decide to do either with the right to self-determination or even their black gold is up to them. What happens to South Georgia etc is not.

Different overseas territories, different position. Please note that contrary to Argentina's weak attempts to include them, South Georgia, the South Sandwich Islands and British Antarctica are not on the UN's list of Non-self Governing Territories. They are, and will remain - British.
121 yankeeboy (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 02:18 pm Report abuse
Think should be glad the island is doing so well, has so much new investment and infrastructure being built instead of being so bitter about it since according to him Argentina will get all of that nice new stuff
alas they can only dream about it

Did you know YPF had 70 meetings with O/G companies and haven't found a penny of investment.

I wonder why?

Pretty soon the Falklands new oil investments will far exceed the total worth of YPF...maybe very soon
122 Think (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 02:46 pm Report abuse
And yet another British Turnip (119) that doesn’t read what I write…
……………..................…..but freely quotes me for things I didn't write…
Chuckle chuckle©

(120) Mr. Lorton
I did ask that question to a self-declared anti-colonial Kelperette......
Your English Retired Male Copper answer is therefore......... irrelevant ;-)

(121) Mr. Fred Bates, Bold Shoe Salesman from Guachinton DC
Pretty soon indeed...
Scotia shouldn't be more than four weeks from TD....
Hope Santa has a nice present for the Argentinean People....
123 yankeeboy (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 02:55 pm Report abuse
What a silly bitter old fool.
They have found more o/g new finds in the Falklands than in ALL OF ARGENTINA did last year, ON LAND.
Do you know how exponentially harder/expensive off shore exploration is than on-shore? But every year the wells keep coming while Argentina has ni una pesito por YPF and quickly running out of nat gas and oil.
quickly running out
How many companies had to shut down last winter because the gas was turned off..how many?
Maybe YPF should start begging on Florida Ave to find some $.
Oh wait they can raid Anses oh no that can't its all gone
Bye bye pensions

silly bunny
124 Think (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 03:13 pm Report abuse
(121) Mr. Fred Bates, Bold Shoe Salesman from Guachinton DC

You couldn't even predict the “FOUR MORE YEARS” of Obama in your own home town; Guachinton DC....

As a matter of fact you have been predicting Obama's total demise for the last couple of years....

How can you expect anybody to take any of your predictions about Argentina seriously?

What a Turnip...............
125 ptolemy (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 03:25 pm Report abuse
The usual mud-slinging session by many, comments having little or nothing to do with the article.
Back to the article,..
Great idea for an airport! I'd like to go St Helena; interesting history and a half-way stop-over to Africa, etc.
126 Doveoverdover (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 03:39 pm Report abuse
@125 Back to the article.... I was disappointed to discover that a South African firm is building the airport with UK money from DFID. DFID so mishandled the competition, it has been alleged, that no British or European company would produce a best and final offer. This shouldn't be allowed to happen with that shiny new port (like it didn't with that once shiny new airport).
127 yankeeboy (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 03:43 pm Report abuse
Who predicted 7/1 for the peso by August ( I think) a voila its 7.43/1 in the gray market.Who?
a Yankee that's who
I should put my money where my mouth was..
Betcha its over 10/1 soon
really soon
Then what
Hyperinflation I think
probably depression
I wonder if Chrissy will be enjoying her stolen millions in Miami by then?
or under house arrest
I wonder
Barely para todos!! maybe the next campaign
Did you know Pork makes you horny...Chrissy does but that campaign didn't last very long
128 ptolemy (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 03:47 pm Report abuse
@126
Distance may have something to do with it.
Or,..Department for International Development (DfID) (International, key word.)
129 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 03:47 pm Report abuse
125

St Helena, by all accounts, is a great place to visit. I missed the chance to visit 10 years ago due to a technical problem with the ship we were on. I will however being going there in 2014 and I can't wait. The airport is on schedule, so far for completion by mid-2015 with contract completion date being early 2016. It looks set to be a high-spec airport for a first rate travel destination; no package deals or reps at this type of high-end destination. Rather similar to the Falklands in that sense.

Sorry if I am to blame for any of the mud-slinging but I suspect that a couple on this thread smell; mud or no smell.
130 Conqueror (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 04:11 pm Report abuse
@59 I might answer you. If either you or I had a clue what you were talking about.
@60 Irrelevant drivel.
@63 Irrelevant drivel.
@66 So you're “Tink” now. What's that word “Comprehende”? I don't speak gibberish.
@68 Irrelevant drivel.
@70 It's not what we call you!
@74 More irrelevant drivel from a genocide.
@76 More irrelevant drivel.
@91 You are welcome to make your “preference” known to the Falkland Islands Government. Pop down to Gilbert House and tell them.
@96 Sorry, the Huns didn't migrate into Europe until around 370AD. The Vandals were even later. The original “Germans” were actually Teutons or Goths. By the way, St Helens is on Merseyside.
@104 More desperate irrelevant drivel.
@105 “Domestic revenue” belongs to the Falkland Islands. Licensing revenues will be “domestic revenue”. QED.
@117 More irrelevant drivel.
@122 There may well be a present. A visit from the bailiffs.
@129 Yeah, wish I could go too. Still, with luck, I am due a payout of around £30,000 in 2015. Maybe I could do a triple. Ascension, St Helena and the Falklands. I do so love visiting British territories.
131 Doveoverdover (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 05:13 pm Report abuse
@128 All sorts of issues there. Two will do for starters. British and European construction companies don't normally feel constrained from bidding for work by the mere inconvenience of distance from corporate HQ. What is DFID doing funding work in a British Overseas Territory populated almost entirely by British nationals?
132 ptolemy (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 05:27 pm Report abuse
@131
1.Read about DfID yourself. It is a lenghty read.
2. Distance = ships. Africa closer.
133 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 05:27 pm Report abuse
131

Your second point has been an argument for many years and may actually be addressed shortly. It is by no means just something that has happened for this St Helena project. DfID has been pouring millions into several British OTs for many years.
134 dab14763 (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 05:31 pm Report abuse
The OTs are not excluded

www.dfid.gov.uk/Where-we-work/Overseas-Territories/
135 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 05:50 pm Report abuse
There's nothing new about the UK awarding contracts to overseas companies is there? As frustrating as it is it happens quite a bit. A few of the sub-contractors that Basil Read are using are British so that's some consolation.
136 Think (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 05:58 pm Report abuse
(131) Cmdr. McDod

You ask:
“What is DFID doing funding work in a British Overseas Territory populated almost entirely by British nationals?”

I say:
Following the North American & European trend, maybe......?
That of canalizing monies from the ”Aid Industry” into ”Less Conventional Activities Areas”.........
I could tell you about monies from NORAD & DANIDA going to ISAF in Helmand, for example…

In the good ol´days the “Aid Industry” was a productive business for the developed world and, sometimes, for the developing world as well…..

Now, it’s being directly used to pay for “White and Ginger” occupation troops on Asian soil or “Geostrategically Important” airports in the South Atlantic…

Brainwash and Doublespeak anybody?
137 Doveoverdover (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 07:41 pm Report abuse
@133 Perhaps DFID staff are just about to work out that they are no longer the Colonial Office's Public Works Department? The words often precede the reality by some considerable margin.
138 Think (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 07:50 pm Report abuse
(127) Mr. Fred Bates, Bold Shoe Salesman from Guachinton DC

You say:
“Who predicted 7/1 for the peso by August ( I think) a voila its 7.43/1 in the gray market. Who? a Yankee that's who”

I say:
Would that be the same Yanki that, by August 2012 also predicted a 10/1 for the Peso?
Would that be the same Yanki that, by August 2012 also predicted a 12/1 or more for the Peso?
Would that be the same Yanki that, by August 2012 also predicted the demise of the Peso?
Would that be the same Yanki that, by August 2012 also predicted the coming of the Patacon?

Please predict to us....., ohhh great Doomsday Prepper from the Mighty North…
Who else is “Coming”?
Is it Jesus?
Satan?
Fred?
139 briton (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 08:06 pm Report abuse
Poss.,
But we did not quote any dates,

As for st Helens
Yup Merseyside it is,
And bishop gate,

St Helena
South Atlantic it is then.lol.
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
but those complaining abt who should pay for the british military in the falklands,

the british will pay, ?
and to be fair,
the argies should get the bill.
140 Isoooooolde is Skare (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 08:25 pm
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141 Doveoverdover (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 08:26 pm Report abuse
@136 No, I don't think so. DFID and Helmand I can come to terms with. See my response to the remarkable input @135 to be found @137.
142 briton (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 08:35 pm Report abuse
140 we dont talk to corpses get lost dead impersonater.
twit
143 Isoooooolde is Skare (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 08:35 pm Report abuse
@94------95
same UK wimps....jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeejeeeeeeeeeeeeeeejeee
144 Islander1 (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 09:13 pm Report abuse
Think- still waiting for you to list the cruise vessels your side stopped coming here in 2011-12?
Tax Haven - unlikley! - it was indeed looked at in late 1960s and early 1970s, - conclusions -
Tax Havens need a decent climate!
Our location would attract a lot of sahdy deals and laundering etc rather than “clean” money - after all who are we next door to?

No change likley in either of the negatives!

Marcos - why do you still burble on about RKH - do get up to date - Premier are the folks who will be doing it and spending the money now!
RKH have nothing to do until they restart some more exploration drill 2015 so not surprising their shares not exactly booming at the monent!
Please listen to Beef - unlike you he has a good understanding of what he talks about
145 Think (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 09:20 pm Report abuse
(141) Cmdr McDOD

Hardly surprising that you “can come to terms” with the DFID and other European “Aid & Development Agencies” financing ISAF's military activities with their Poverty Alleviation Funds….
Makes good “military” sense, I suppose .....

“A dead pauper is, indeed, an alleviated pauper”
146 Monty69 (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 09:35 pm Report abuse
126 Doveoverdover

Which shiny new port is that? You can't mean the Falkland Islands port, surely. Who is paying for that anyway? Sounds like an internal matter to me.
147 Think (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 09:55 pm Report abuse
(144) Islander1

“Rockflopper” still owns 40% and they are going down, down, down…….
“Premier Oil” bought 60% in october and, since then, they are going down, down, down…….
www.lse.co.uk/ShareChart.asp?sharechart=PMO

Wonder how much gas this shares are putting in Mr. Beef’es Jag?
148 Doveoverdover (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 10:04 pm Report abuse
@146 There is, I believe, a study into how it will be paid for. Truly an internal matter for all British citizens
149 Monty69 (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 10:14 pm Report abuse
148 Doveoverdover

I don't think so. This will be paid for by the FI private sector, FIG and perhaps a loan against future oil revenues. This has absolutely nothing to do with you. It has nothing to do with foreign policy and is therefore not a matter for 'all British citizens'.

Just out of interest, what form would you like to see the involvement of 'all British citizens' taking in this matter?
What sort of interest would you like to see Falkland Islanders taking in the way things like, well, ports, get built in the UK? How would you see that happening in practice, given that we don't have representation in Parliament?
150 Doveoverdover (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 10:28 pm Report abuse
@149 No taxation without representation then. Since you ask, I would absorb you into the Dover Constituency and political structure. We electors of Dover Town Parish Council would then be able to outvote you as there are more of us than you and, since the Army Battalion moved out in 2007, reestablish our close relationship with the British Armed Forces. Win for Democracy, win for the British Taxpayer....
151 Monty69 (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 11:04 pm Report abuse
150 Doveoverdover

There, you see, I told you that you were a laugh a minute. Happily we already pay taxes and have the government of our choice. I think our form of democracy is rather more developed that yours; the voters of the Falkland Islands are not allowed to disenfranchise a minority (Camp voters) unless both Camp and Stanley voters agree to it. From our perspective, your proposition doesn't seem all that appealing.

I think your only recourse is to lobby your government to stop defending the Falkland Islands. That is your democratic right and your only way to achieve the 'win for the British Taxpayer' that you want. In fact, why aren't you doing just that? Your position is completely untenable as it is, being completely opposed to the UK government's policy of encouraging the OTs to achieve internal self government and whatever long term future they wish, and even more at odds with the UN and international opinion.
This would be quite an interesting move; most ex- military chaps use the Falklands as a reason to lobby the government for more money for the forces.

Anyway, which constituencies do you have in mind for the other OTs? I guess you're planning to take them all into the fold, so let's hear it.
152 Think (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 11:19 pm Report abuse
I'm still impressed with Pimmy’s thriftiness !
Here a couple of anecdotes about him.....

Puerto Estanley telephone directory makes an ideal personal address book for Pimmy………
He simply crosses out the names and addresses of people he doesen't know.

Pimmy took a girl for a ride in the taxi once…….
She was so beautiful he could hardly keep his eye on the meter.

Monty96 called in to see her friend Pimmy to find he was stripping the wallpaper from the walls……...............
Rather obviously, she remarked “You're decorating, I see.” to which Pimmy replied “Naw…… I'm moving house.”
153 yankeeboy (#) Nov 18th, 2012 - 11:54 pm Report abuse
Time is on my side...time is on my side...

To the extent it has succeeded, the Kirchner economic model has relied on the 2001 default on $100 billion in debt and interest, a weak peso, protectionism, confiscation of private property, capital controls, broken contracts and high taxes. In other words, it has depended on other people's money. Now, as Mrs. Thatcher warned, that money is running out.

In the second quarter, the economy contracted by 1.4%. The Buenos Aires-based think tank Foundation for Latin American Economic Research (known by its Spanish initials FIEL) is forecasting 2012 GDP growth of only 1.5%. Inflation is estimated by independent economists at almost 25% annually. As salaries are adjusted upward to compensate for the loss of purchasing power, workers are being pushed into higher tax brackets. Argentines traveling abroad now have to explain their plans to government bureaucrats if they want to buy hard currency.

online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323551004578118980029057450.html
154 Islander1 (#) Nov 19th, 2012 - 01:10 am Report abuse
Still waiting for the names of those ships Think? Oh and do tell me - what have the majority of all the world,s oil company shares been doing over say the last 12 months?
155 DanyBerger (#) Nov 19th, 2012 - 05:28 am Report abuse
Very interesting debate about the responsibility of BOTs to contribute to the huge debt around 11 trillions owed by Britain. After all they consider themselves Brits, they think they belong to Britain and they happily accept all the money, protection, financing and benefits from Mother land.

And the best part of that is that the Islanders (according with their own posting) seem to have a strong willing to honour debts as they all the time are more than happy to point out toward Argentina.

So is quite clear for me that the referendum in the FI should contain the following questions...

1-Would you like to continue to be BOT and contribute with all the oil found to the huge British debt?
2-Would you like to become a province of Argentina?
3-You don’t like the 2 proposals above and you would like to became an independent country and the next shooting target of Argentina, UK and US like Iraq?



@Think

“Mr. Fred Bates, Bold Shoe Salesman from Guachinton DC” Ha ha ha

@ yankeeboy

“Spanish initials FIEL” FIEL is a Biased ORG that is infected with formers Menemist, lobbyist for privatised companies and the “Sociedad Rural“ you can see the constitution of its stuff here www.fiel.org/staff I will not buy a used car from any of them.

Even “La Destrucción” and ClarinMiente have to admit and recognise the rise of the Arg economy in the last months, what of course is used as a good tool for them to predict more fantasy inflation... but that is another thing.

“Se recupera el consumo y le da un nuevo impulso a la inflación”
Consumption expending recovers and gives new push to inflation (According with “La Destrucción” of course)
www.lanacion.com.ar//1527918-se-recupera-el-consumo-y-le-da-otro-impulso-a-la-inflacion?utm_source=n_tis_nota1&utm_medium=titularS&utm_campaign=NLEco

So I guess are using the wrong source of info for your predictions try again please...
156 Santa Fe (#) Nov 19th, 2012 - 08:00 am Report abuse
155... All western economies borrow and owe vast amounts of money, that the way it works and has done for many a year, difference being we are credit worthy dont get our assets frozen and impounded.

Standards troll post, page 25 of campora handbook, page 25 is quote falkland island oil and gas share prices
157 Doveoverdover (#) Nov 19th, 2012 - 08:15 am Report abuse
@151 Happy to bring a smile to your face for once.

You know, I pay local taxes too - the parish, the District, the Police and the County all benefit from my largesse. I also get a vote for all of them (since 15 Nov 12 anyway). I'm so overwhelmed with democracy that I can't move for people wanting to represent me.

As for the other OTs. How about Pitcairn and the Scilly Islands? No, on second thoughts we can lump them in with you and take you under our wing. After all you both generally share the same approach to family values. As for St Helena, most people think its on Merseyside so there you go.
158 DanyBerger (#) Nov 19th, 2012 - 09:47 am Report abuse
@Santa Fe

Why I will borrow Green toilette paper from Uncle Sam printer machines when I can print my own and in any colour I like and cheaper?
159 HansNiesund (#) Nov 19th, 2012 - 10:13 am Report abuse
@158
Because yours Dany, like anything else, will be worth only what people are willing to pay for it. And the stampede will be entirely in the opposite direction.
160 DanyBerger (#) Nov 19th, 2012 - 10:35 am Report abuse
@HansNiesund

Doesn’t matter Hans if you want to buy something from me I will require to be pay in my own bad printed bills.

Sorry not green toilette FIAT currency paper accepted anymore.
161 HansNiesund (#) Nov 19th, 2012 - 11:12 am Report abuse
@160

I see. Now show me something you're selling which I need and can't get anywhere else.
162 DanyBerger (#) Nov 19th, 2012 - 11:48 am Report abuse
@ HansNiesund

Well I have no Idea what can I show you that you cannot get anywhere else.

But the Spanish could not have bio diesel because you need soy to do that so they have to buy bio diesel from Argentina even if they don’t want.

Do you want to have PLA? Is a bio plastic becoming very popular on these days for plastic bags, cups, etc.

PLA is made from Polylactic Acid extracted form corn, guess who is the 3 bigger exporter of that?

Sure you would like to keep gas and oil flowing using steel tubes made from a single extrusion operation.
Guess who has the monopoly of that with companies with different names all over the world?

Of course may be you can find some alternatives but will become very expensive as the Spanish quickly found out and that are not economically viable.

Now can you show me something that I cannot get from anywhere else.

Can you?

CaMoron is not a valid answer...
163 pgerman (#) Nov 19th, 2012 - 12:02 pm Report abuse
Dear Mr. Islander and HansNiesund

I beolieve that you can help me out with the following issue:

I know that this is not related with the topic of this article but, as a result of a discussion with a couple of Argentine friend of mine, I have been looking for information about the legal goberning institutions of the FI. Basically the Ejecutive, Legislative and Judicial power and their history since I read that they are the oldes in function in South America. SO I'm interested about thei history and evolution through the times.

The fact is that I cannot find any of importance surfing the web and I would like to read, study and know about them. Do you have any idea about where this information can be found?

Regards
164 Benson (#) Nov 19th, 2012 - 01:43 pm Report abuse
@163 pgbergman
If you email someone at Gilbert House or the London FIGO office they would probably be able to help you out, you can find email addresses on the website www.falklands.gov.fk/Contact_Us.php
165 Simon68 (#) Nov 19th, 2012 - 01:53 pm Report abuse
Marcos Alejandro & Think:

Very interesting your comments about the o & g companies in the Falklands and their share prices, I was so interested that I looked up our dear old YPF to see just how well it was doing.

What a surprise!!!!!

the last 52 weeks shows that share prices for YPF have dropped from US$ 41.51 to US$ 9.21 that is a 78% fall in value!!!!!!!

Perhaps La Campora won't approve of you using o&g data for propaganda purposes.
166 yankeeboy (#) Nov 19th, 2012 - 02:06 pm Report abuse
I imagine there wouldn't be a NATIONAL Strike if the economy was doing well..
but alas everything is shut down AGAIN today
How does anything get done there
Ooops it doesn't
that is why is a failed state

Isn't there another protest scheduled for next week and the week after too

losers
167 pgerman (#) Nov 19th, 2012 - 02:40 pm Report abuse
@164 Benson

I'll try to contact them to get some info.

Thank you
168 TipsyThink (#) Nov 19th, 2012 - 02:54 pm Report abuse
I don't know what Simon Bolivar would thinking if he were líving ríght now and seen úsing his copy náme when read some loudmouthed comménts and talking themself...leastwise he would be happy bécouse that they are not from South America.
169 brits are pavos (#) Nov 19th, 2012 - 03:58 pm Report abuse
gugl gugl gugl is the only languange the bloody rubbish english people understand
jijiji
170 Anbar (#) Nov 19th, 2012 - 06:35 pm Report abuse
“”“”1) The name is ”Tink”“”“”

teeheee titter titter....

best typo on these boards too date ;-)

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glad to see TinkyWinky going off-on-one again... great entertainment...total nonsense half of the time, but great entertainment nonetheless.

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“”“the last 52 weeks shows that share prices for YPF have dropped from US$ 41.51 to US$ 9.21 that is a 78% fall in value!!!!!!!”“”

Sorry, dont see the relevance with that statement. ... at least the Argentines now have $9.21 that would otherwise go to Spaniards...well...

9.20

9.19

9.18

9.17

9.16...

...
..
.

- - - -

“gugl gugl gugl is the only languange the bloody rubbish english people understand”

everyone wave to Guzz b4 he gets banned again. /wave
171 Teaboy2 (#) Nov 19th, 2012 - 09:16 pm Report abuse
@170 - “everyone wave to Guzz b4 he gets banned again. /wave”

Lol i am already working on it and with getting tipsy/Light/Murkythink's Ip address banned too!
172 HansNiesund (#) Nov 19th, 2012 - 11:17 pm Report abuse
@163 pgerman

Sorry, I've no better answer than the one Benson gave you.
173 Anbar (#) Nov 19th, 2012 - 11:24 pm Report abuse
“”“I don't know what Simon Bolivar would thinking if he were líving ríght now ”“”

probably something like....

“Is that really the best they could manage in 200 years?”
174 brit abroad (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 01:49 am Report abuse
has anyone noticed that Think has a serious case of Illeism?

Why would that be?
175 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 04:12 am Report abuse
@174 Brit

'Oui' !
176 Be serious (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 10:01 am Report abuse
174
Perhaps he really wants to be Mrs Thatcher or a member of the Royal Family.

He's always had a bad case of “supersileism”.

Anyway the Union Jack (Flag) STILL flies high and proud over these our extremely beautiful Falkland Islands, South Georgia, South Sandwich Islands and South Atlantic maritime space. Some things never change.
177 Briton likes Juntas (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 04:43 pm Report abuse
i said the best thing is another invasion to clean the islas malditas
at the same time ,,,,,,
i hide in my house basement
lol
178 agentscrewed (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 08:24 pm
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179 Kameron de gallina (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 09:13 pm Report abuse
who me? I don't know what to say
but
i would like to know if Isolde is yensere-ly Skare of posting again
180 Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 11:05 pm Report abuse
Good. The faster they complete this airport the sooner we can stop hearing the moans from the islanders about Argentina exercising sovereignty over its airspace and ports.
181 Pete Bog (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 12:28 am Report abuse
@181
By preventing Falkland Islands ships docking in Argentina, the law of the sea which Argentina considers so precious is being broken.
But please Nostro, don't worry the Islanders are not losing sleep over it and Argentina loses the money it would get from these ships, the way Argentina genuinely loves to lose money.
The islandrrs are not moaning anymore-as they will build a port that will take shipping away from Argentina as one of its side effects. Feel free to send your military ships to the Falklands to dock, as I'm sure the Islanders will be on the blower to Paul Singer to fly down and collect his property.
182 Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 12:36 am Report abuse
@182

You are delusional just like all the other Brits/Falklanders. There is no “law of the sea” that states a sovereign nation has no control over who anchors and uses its ports. NONE.

And the money Argentina loses from the economy of an island of 3000 doesn't make a dent even on 12 hours of budget in a country of 40 million.

The upside, you keep the money and you forget we exist (which is my fav part I admit, can't wait till I don't here from the Falklanders, Brits, or Europeans for that matter ever again).
183 Benson (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 10:46 am Report abuse
@183
That's fair enough, whilst I'd prefer friendly neighbours I could live with quiet neighbours that ignore me completly over beligerent neighbours.
184 Be serious (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 11:56 am Report abuse
Think
The last drill is going on at Scotia and it certainly is beginning to smell like a Patagonian Dust Storm….

Isn't it just.
What are you sniffing today?
185 Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 03:37 pm Report abuse
@184

It's for the best, really. You deserve to live in peace and unbothered. And as much as people here may hate my guts for speaking the truth (the anti-argies here don't like the truth much), they even admit that I haver ALWAYS been steadfast in this matter of Falklanders and their rights.

I just want my gov to leave you alone so that you, and the UK leave us alone. Then we can tell Europe, China, USA to leave us alone and engage in isolationism.
186 Think (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 04:56 pm Report abuse
(185)

I'm sniffing....

“Pump & Dump”....

Before the Patagonian Dust Storm....
187 Xect (#) Nov 22nd, 2012 - 12:04 am Report abuse
Good post Tobias.

I'd be happy for all parties to drop hostilities towards each other, after all the UK position is unmovable and thus its a pointless exercise.

If Argentina wants to engage in isolationism, well that is the right of Argentina.
188 Be serious (#) Nov 23rd, 2012 - 06:25 pm Report abuse
187
Sounds like you have a touch of gas.
189 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 24th, 2012 - 12:51 am Report abuse
@185Nozzynukes

Good post, I quite agree.

That being said, do you honestly believe that you are in danger of invasion from NATO??

I would think that NATO has no interest, with nothing to gain.
However, your neighbours, Chile and Brasil are likely to be far more nervous of a bankrupt and desperate Argentina, especially if Venezuela becomes a major influence in your affairs.

Wouldn't it be to their advantage invade while you are weak financially and militarily??

What do you think?
190 Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#) Nov 24th, 2012 - 01:08 am Report abuse
I think NATO is a danger to the world, not just Argentina. Has been since 2003.

2nd, I guess they could try to invade, but then again it could be the Versaille treaty all over again. Look at how that helped the French and British, to humilliate the Germans.

Argentina has had powerful militaries in the past, and has vast resources and whether you like it or not has the potential to be able to gather a significant military threat to the rest of South America.

If they did attack us when “weak”, I think they would only be putting themselves in danger. They have no shot at holding any part of Argentina.

Then again, I believe in disbanding the military and using the billions saved to buy massive amounts of anti-aircraft, so much that no matter what aircraft is used the sheer numbers would dispel any attack.

Look at Syria, why have NATO not have the guts to attack them like Libya? Because they are a significant threat to the safety of NATO aircraft, by way of anti-aircraft arsenal.

I propose Argentina have 20 TIMES the syrian amount, since we would not spend the rest of the budget on tanks, and soldiers like Syria does, and our economy is 7 times larger, thus at least 7 times more budget (really 12 times since our per capita is also 3 times as high).

That and divert resources from other areas to this purpose, and while Argentina may not defeat an invasion by NATO, it would make it so costly that it would cost dire and cause massive unrest at home.
191 DanyBerger (#) Nov 24th, 2012 - 07:23 am Report abuse
@Nostrolldamus The 2nd

Don't forget some nukes Nostro abut 60 will be just fine to send some retarded Queen F@kers go back to stone age again...
192 Clyde15 (#) Nov 24th, 2012 - 09:59 am Report abuse
#191
Probably correct Dany and while this is happening your country will be free from any retaliation ?. Is a Phyric victory worth having.
Ask the Argentinian population before you post any more stupid remarks.
Why would we be interested in invading Argentina, there's nothing there of any use to us and it is full of Argentinians whose government is a complete pain in the arse. No, your country is completely safe from invasion, however, outward aggression is a different matter.
193 Pete Bog (#) Nov 24th, 2012 - 12:32 pm Report abuse
@191
“Don't forget some nukes ”

Without some sort of delivery system, (to the target) nukes are impotent-you thinking of blowing your own country to tiny pieces?
194 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 24th, 2012 - 05:02 pm Report abuse
@190 Nozzy

“Look at Syria, why have NATO not have the guts to attack them like Libya? Because they are a significant threat to the safety of NATO aircraft, by way of anti-aircraft arsenal.”

Actually, no.
NATO, or whatever Western Alliance cannot go into Syria because Russia and China at the UN have vetoed that. Otherwise they would be there, now.
Russia is selling arms to the Syrian regime and profiting handsomely.

You are paranoid if you think NATO nations want to invade Argentina. It would be very costly in $$$ and manpower, and it would be depriving Argentina of Self-Determination.
There is nothing to be gained from an invasion. Apart from being impossible from such a distance, without the help of Brasil or Chile, there is no wealth that could be extracted from Argentina, that could not be done more cheaply by peaceful investmen, elsewhere.
Besides, who would want the headache of administering your population?
195 Philippe (#) Nov 24th, 2012 - 08:21 pm Report abuse
MALVINAZIS BEWARE.
The UK is getting closer and closer to the free Falkland Islands, and the free F.I.
are getting closer and closer to the UK.
Now, president-for-life K.K. can start squaring the circle!

Philippe
196 Troy Tempest asshole (#) Nov 26th, 2012 - 04:34 pm
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