Monday, November 19th 2012 - 11:24 UTC

UN consensus decision confirms Spain formally abandons Gibraltar trilateral process

Spain’s decision to pull out of the trilateral process was formally recorded in the consensus decision on Gibraltar adopted by the United Nations General Assembly this year.

Chief Minister Fabian Picardo: “the product of diplomacy”

The annual decision also notes the UK’s desire to continue with the three-way talks despite the Spanish position.

As in other years, the decision urges the UK and Spain to reach a definitive solution to the question of Gibraltar “in the spirit of the Brussels Declaration” but while listening to the “interests and aspirations” of Gibraltar.

But the different stance of each government in respect of the trilateral forum led to a break with past language in the decision, which had in essence been rolled over unchanged for several consecutive years.

The latest decision reflects “…Spain’s desire to replace this forum with a new mechanism for local cooperation in the interests of social wellbeing and regional economic development, in which the people of the Campo de Gibraltar and Gibraltar are represented.”

The UK and Gibraltar both believe that the trilateral forum is the best format for talks on issue of mutual interest but Spain disagrees. This year’s UN consensus decision was discussed in the Gibraltar Parliament last Thursday following a question tabled by Opposition leader Peter Caruana.

Chief Minister Fabian Picardo said that the Gibraltar Government had been consulted on the content and language of the consensus decision. But he said that the consultation “leaves a very bad taste in the mouth” because Gibraltar’s opinions – as had always happened in the past - were not reflected in the text.

“This is not a document that any Gibraltarian would draft or want to see drafted,” Mr Picardo said. “It is the product of diplomacy.”

The consensus decision on Gibraltar is adopted by the UN General Assembly without a vote. It allows both governments to set out their respective positions on Gibraltar without the need for an open confrontation with the UN forum.
 

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1 Idlehands (#) Nov 19th, 2012 - 12:28 pm Report abuse
....so now there is no forum to dicuss Gibralatar?

Britain and Gibraltar won't care - this unilateral Spanish action only affects Spain.
2 LEPRecon (#) Nov 19th, 2012 - 12:55 pm Report abuse
Further proof of the irrationality of the Spanish position, by refusing to talk to the people whose future is actually at stake, namely the Gibraltarians.
3 British_Kirchnerist (#) Nov 19th, 2012 - 01:24 pm Report abuse
“The consensus decision on Gibraltar is adopted by the UN General Assembly without a vote. It allows both governments to set out their respective positions on Gibraltar without the need for an open confrontation with the UN forum”

So in this case neither side can claim the UN supports them?!
4 Idlehands (#) Nov 19th, 2012 - 02:05 pm Report abuse
“So in this case neither side can claim the UN supports them”

Hard to tell - it isn't very clear. The UNs attitude is as always - talk about it between yourselves.
5 Conqueror (#) Nov 19th, 2012 - 03:08 pm Report abuse
@3 The UK is the UN-approved and recognised Administrative Authority. Seems fairly clear.
6 LEPRecon (#) Nov 19th, 2012 - 04:34 pm Report abuse
@3 - BL

The UN doesn't take sides, they never have and they never will.
7 ChrisR (#) Nov 19th, 2012 - 05:09 pm Report abuse
The trouble maker in all of this, is Minister Garcia-Margallo, who right from the start when the new government was elected in Spain set out to badger Gibraltar over the boundary issues.

As per RG, the issues are only in his mind, no-one else's.

Nothing but trouble makers, even though their country is in as much trouble as Argentina. Why am I not surprised?
8 Anbar (#) Nov 19th, 2012 - 06:42 pm Report abuse
“”““It is the product of diplomacy.””“”

The art of leaving everybody unhappy... just in time for a big slap-up meal at somebody else's' embassy.
9 Pugol-H (#) Nov 19th, 2012 - 07:37 pm Report abuse
The Spanish must know that making any kind of decisions about Gibraltar without the agreement of Gibraltar, is never going to fly in Europe. Even today too many wars could start that way.

3 British_Kirchnerist
Not true Gibraltar can claim UN support, according to Ban-Ki Moon, all the non-self-governing territories have the right to self-determination, “be it independence or some kind of government in their territories”. He has repeated this many times now.
10 briton (#) Nov 19th, 2012 - 07:39 pm Report abuse
So the other halve of the cry babie twins is throwing his toys out of the pram,

If they can’t have all of Gibraltar then they wont talk to them anymore,

Just like CFK , hoping that if both twins start crying the UN might take sympathy and give em both a lolly..lol.
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11 toooldtodieyoung (#) Nov 19th, 2012 - 08:42 pm Report abuse
“The UK and Gibraltar both believe that the trilateral forum is the best format for talks on issue of mutual interest but Spain disagrees”

So?? who cares if “Spain disagrees” we live in a democracy don't we? Spain is outvoted 2 to 1 motion is carried end of..........

If this is the best the Europe has to offer then take us out, please, please, please take us out of Europe and let that fetid mass of distended terrapins gonads to rot all together.
12 Conqueror (#) Nov 19th, 2012 - 08:55 pm Report abuse
Spain. Another rogue state. Refuses to go to the ICJ. Where it would lose. An economic disaster. All we have to do is wait. Then there will be no more Spain. This “state” has to be ended. It is criminal.
13 Pirate Love (#) Nov 19th, 2012 - 11:26 pm Report abuse
They may Huff, They can even Puff,
but the right to SELF DETERMINATION aint coming down!
14 Idlehands (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 11:20 am Report abuse
No more Spain? - Yikes!?

Who will produce all of Europes tiles and err...umm....whatever else they produce. Sangria?
15 Brit Bob (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 01:07 pm Report abuse
Just say NO to Spanish wine.
16 LEPRecon (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 01:33 pm Report abuse
What would be easier would be if the citizens of the UK decided to a person not to go to Spain on holiday next year and the year after.

Without all those tourist Euro's their economy would collapse completely, and the 'new' government would be out on their ear.

I hope Catalonia get their chance to vote on independence.

Personally I think the UK should provide the RN to support the Gibraltan police, so any vessels breaking Gibraltan law by fishing illegally, can be seized and impounded. That'll learn 'em.
17 briton (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 12:38 pm Report abuse
we never holiday in spain,
and have not for over 15 years, since their rudness to brits,

we go to greece.

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