Spain’s decision to pull out of the trilateral process was formally recorded in the consensus decision on Gibraltar adopted by the United Nations General Assembly this year. Read full article
Further proof of the irrationality of the Spanish position, by refusing to talk to the people whose future is actually at stake, namely the Gibraltarians.
The consensus decision on Gibraltar is adopted by the UN General Assembly without a vote. It allows both governments to set out their respective positions on Gibraltar without the need for an open confrontation with the UN forum
So in this case neither side can claim the UN supports them?!
The trouble maker in all of this, is Minister Garcia-Margallo, who right from the start when the new government was elected in Spain set out to badger Gibraltar over the boundary issues.
As per RG, the issues are only in his mind, no-one else's.
Nothing but trouble makers, even though their country is in as much trouble as Argentina. Why am I not surprised?
The Spanish must know that making any kind of decisions about Gibraltar without the agreement of Gibraltar, is never going to fly in Europe. Even today too many wars could start that way.
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Not true Gibraltar can claim UN support, according to Ban-Ki Moon, all the non-self-governing territories have the right to self-determination, “be it independence or some kind of government in their territories”. He has repeated this many times now.
The UK and Gibraltar both believe that the trilateral forum is the best format for talks on issue of mutual interest but Spain disagrees
So?? who cares if Spain disagrees we live in a democracy don't we? Spain is outvoted 2 to 1 motion is carried end of..........
If this is the best the Europe has to offer then take us out, please, please, please take us out of Europe and let that fetid mass of distended terrapins gonads to rot all together.
Spain. Another rogue state. Refuses to go to the ICJ. Where it would lose. An economic disaster. All we have to do is wait. Then there will be no more Spain. This state has to be ended. It is criminal.
What would be easier would be if the citizens of the UK decided to a person not to go to Spain on holiday next year and the year after.
Without all those tourist Euro's their economy would collapse completely, and the 'new' government would be out on their ear.
I hope Catalonia get their chance to vote on independence.
Personally I think the UK should provide the RN to support the Gibraltan police, so any vessels breaking Gibraltan law by fishing illegally, can be seized and impounded. That'll learn 'em.
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Disclaimer & comment rules....so now there is no forum to dicuss Gibralatar?
Nov 19th, 2012 - 12:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Britain and Gibraltar won't care - this unilateral Spanish action only affects Spain.
Further proof of the irrationality of the Spanish position, by refusing to talk to the people whose future is actually at stake, namely the Gibraltarians.
Nov 19th, 2012 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The consensus decision on Gibraltar is adopted by the UN General Assembly without a vote. It allows both governments to set out their respective positions on Gibraltar without the need for an open confrontation with the UN forum
Nov 19th, 2012 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So in this case neither side can claim the UN supports them?!
So in this case neither side can claim the UN supports them
Nov 19th, 2012 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hard to tell - it isn't very clear. The UNs attitude is as always - talk about it between yourselves.
@3 The UK is the UN-approved and recognised Administrative Authority. Seems fairly clear.
Nov 19th, 2012 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@3 - BL
Nov 19th, 2012 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UN doesn't take sides, they never have and they never will.
The trouble maker in all of this, is Minister Garcia-Margallo, who right from the start when the new government was elected in Spain set out to badger Gibraltar over the boundary issues.
Nov 19th, 2012 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As per RG, the issues are only in his mind, no-one else's.
Nothing but trouble makers, even though their country is in as much trouble as Argentina. Why am I not surprised?
“It is the product of diplomacy.”
Nov 19th, 2012 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The art of leaving everybody unhappy... just in time for a big slap-up meal at somebody else's' embassy.
The Spanish must know that making any kind of decisions about Gibraltar without the agreement of Gibraltar, is never going to fly in Europe. Even today too many wars could start that way.
Nov 19th, 2012 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 03 British_Kirchnerist
Not true Gibraltar can claim UN support, according to Ban-Ki Moon, all the non-self-governing territories have the right to self-determination, “be it independence or some kind of government in their territories”. He has repeated this many times now.
So the other halve of the cry babie twins is throwing his toys out of the pram,
Nov 19th, 2012 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If they can’t have all of Gibraltar then they wont talk to them anymore,
Just like CFK , hoping that if both twins start crying the UN might take sympathy and give em both a lolly..lol.
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The UK and Gibraltar both believe that the trilateral forum is the best format for talks on issue of mutual interest but Spain disagrees
Nov 19th, 2012 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So?? who cares if Spain disagrees we live in a democracy don't we? Spain is outvoted 2 to 1 motion is carried end of..........
If this is the best the Europe has to offer then take us out, please, please, please take us out of Europe and let that fetid mass of distended terrapins gonads to rot all together.
Spain. Another rogue state. Refuses to go to the ICJ. Where it would lose. An economic disaster. All we have to do is wait. Then there will be no more Spain. This state has to be ended. It is criminal.
Nov 19th, 2012 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They may Huff, They can even Puff,
Nov 19th, 2012 - 11:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0but the right to SELF DETERMINATION aint coming down!
No more Spain? - Yikes!?
Nov 20th, 2012 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Who will produce all of Europes tiles and err...umm....whatever else they produce. Sangria?
Just say NO to Spanish wine.
Nov 20th, 2012 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What would be easier would be if the citizens of the UK decided to a person not to go to Spain on holiday next year and the year after.
Nov 20th, 2012 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Without all those tourist Euro's their economy would collapse completely, and the 'new' government would be out on their ear.
I hope Catalonia get their chance to vote on independence.
Personally I think the UK should provide the RN to support the Gibraltan police, so any vessels breaking Gibraltan law by fishing illegally, can be seized and impounded. That'll learn 'em.
we never holiday in spain,
Nov 21st, 2012 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and have not for over 15 years, since their rudness to brits,
we go to greece.
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