Tuesday, November 20th 2012 - 06:33 UTC

Major national strike in Argentina with pickets to implement the measure

Argentina’s three main organized labour groupings, and in opposition to Argentine president Cristina Fernandez, have called for a national strike on Tuesday which counts with the support of several tens of camp and city organizations plus hundreds of pickets in the main cities ‘to ensure there is no activity’.

CGT leader Hugo Moyano anticipates a very strong, effective strike

The demonstration which is expected to have a huge response comes almost two weeks after 8N when hundreds of thousands of Argentines all over the country took to the streets, convened by the social networks, shocking the administration of President Cristina Fernandez and surprising the rest of the political establishment which never expected such a massive, almost spontaneous turnout.

On Tuesday the pickets, according to the three organizations, will have the duty to ensure the compliance with the national strike and are expected to cause havoc in the transport system and even in domestic flight airports.

The protest is to demand a higher starting income taxing floor and smaller rates for workers’ families; an increase in child and family allowance and making the government cancel the social security debt with the unions, a sum estimated in 2.5bn dollars, according to the latest release from the National Auditing Office.

CTA’s umbrella union leader Pablo Micheli told reporters that “pickets have always existed”, and added, “So I recommend that those who still want to go to work tomorrow, better do it before the roadblocks start.”

“If there’s a national strike, it should be understood as what it is: a strike. So please understand that we can’t just stay at home saying how bad things are going, we have to do something, we have to claim for our rights.”

Likewise, Micheli, who planned the strike along with the CGT Labour Confederation led by Hugo Moyano and will also count with the support of the Blue&White CGT umbrella union headed by Luis Barrionuevo of the Restaurant workers’ union, and the Argentine Agrarian Federation, remembered that there are “many unions that totally agree with our claims but instead their leaders spend their time visiting government’s officials

“Pickets are not a matter of life or death; it’s never happened. We haven’t been involved in acts of violence, at least in strikes we have organized”, added Micheli.

Urban transport allegedly is not joining the strike but trouble is expected, and likewise with the underground very much limited in the area it tours. Air commercial traffic has been suspended.

Teamster boss and head of the dissident CGT, Hugo Moyano forecasted that “tomorrow we are going to see a ‘strong, effective national strike’ against the government and “we hope it is the most effective possible”.

Likewise the leader of the Corriente Clasista y Combativa (CCC) left-wing political group, Juan Carlos Alderete, assured that on Tuesday’s national strike “there will be 160 pickets across the country in response to the government's abuse against workers.“

Likewise, Alderete said that “at least 16 pickets or roadblocks will be held in Greater Buenos Aires suburb areas.”

In conversations with a radio station, the picketer justified the strike, stating that “it hurts to see how the government mistreats and punishes workers and how it lies to us.”

“It hurts to see how the inflation hits on us all. How the health and education systems are deteriorating. So, be aware that tomorrow’s strike is not only because of salary claims but for the most urgent needs.

“The only thing the government has done is permanently disqualify workers and this causes lot of anger within in the labour movement” Alderete said and added: “The labour movement has to be at the service of the workers and neither to a government nor employers”.
 

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1 toooldtodieyoung (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 07:24 am Report abuse
What's this? Trouble in Paradise????

Ol' Turkey Neck / KFC / TMBOA / The Harpy better get Tango 1 fuelled up and ready to leave..... If there was anyone to fuel it up........ or fly it........ or if there was anyone in air traffic control.......

Is it me or does anyone else think that she is not as popular as she once was????????
2 Idlehands (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 07:58 am Report abuse
I'm not convinced Moyano is any more credible or laudable than CFK. Their goal should be to get rid of CFK and implement prudent government - not just make demands that will worsen the situation.
3 Viva Las Falklands (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 08:20 am Report abuse
Cat got your tongue Mark Alexander?
4 Usurping Pirate (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 08:33 am
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5 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 08:47 am Report abuse
@2 idle-h

“I'm not convinced Moyano is any more credible or laudable than CFK. Their goal should be to get rid of CFK and implement prudent government - not just make demands that will worsen the situation.”

Good point, Idle.
It's actually a bit disappointing.

She really needs to go - she has no solutions...

I fear that it won't happen until there is violent protest.

Will the Peronists try to control and intimidate with gangs of 'Faithful' thugs ??

Privts-Hunter, this sounds tailor-made for a fanatic like you. C'mon, you 100% love CFK, you despise the People, wade in there !!

Oh, oh, I forgot - you have your excuses, you will be more effective typing or shoplifting for the cause - in Canada!!

CFK will be very disappointed in you - she needs every minion right now. :-(
6 David Cameron (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 10:24 am Report abuse
Wonderful to see this happening, another nail in the coffin of the most obnoxious country in South America. Carry on up the road of deconstruction we are all watching and laughing from afar.
7 Raven (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 10:41 am Report abuse
Hey Ho, Hey Ho,
CFK must go,
With all her cronies all in tow,
Hey Ho, Hey Ho Hey Ho,
8 Pete Bog (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 11:18 am Report abuse
@3
“Cat got your tongue Mark Alexander?”

Wasn't he that berk that got lost in Lafonia (in a Rover, not on foot) and needed the police to find him because he couldn't map read?If it is him, I'm not suprised his posts are aload of crap.
9 Pirate Love (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 11:30 am Report abuse
you can just vision crustina and he minions frantically thumbing through medical encyclopedias to conjure up her next sympathy illness, i have a few suggestions....cocaine dependence......anal prolapse.....genital warts......ingrowing toenail.....verbal flatulence.....lizard neck syndrome.....Dysthymia(contagious).....Bingo wings...or more realistic INSANITY!.
10 Anbar (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 11:45 am Report abuse
“”“Wonderful to see this happening, another nail in the coffin of the most obnoxious country in South America. Carry on up the road of deconstruction we are all watching and laughing from afar.”“”

I'm not, please dont speak for me when Im not a xenophobe, thanks.
11 Pirate Love (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 12:12 pm Report abuse
@6 if by “argentina” you mean its government then 100% agree, they are obnoxious and vile,corrupt,criminal and self serving, as for the people who knows all i know is theres good and bad the world over, with no exception.
that does not mean i dont wish the worst for argentina as a country while they have the govt they have and i believe its mutual with arg posters towards F.I and UK through past posts.
12 ptolemy (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 12:20 pm Report abuse
Might be interesting. It won't be old ladies marching in the street (8N) this time. Maybe CFK will notice the difference. I actually think she is more afraid of the unions than the rest of the population , ( whom she ignores.)
On another note, the streets are quieter with the cuts; nice....
13 yankeeboy (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 12:23 pm Report abuse
Since Peron, has there been any ruler of Argentina that has lasted very long after they lost support of the Unions?

Psst....nope

December should be fun to watch
14 gustbury (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 12:51 pm Report abuse
Moyano is a charlatan and stupid guy!
15 Raven (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 01:02 pm Report abuse
Thanks gustbury for that insightful and well reasoned argument showing us how bad Moyano is.

In other news, gustbury works hard at attempting to string TWO sentences together for his next post.
16 yankeeboy (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 01:03 pm Report abuse
14. But he is powerful! He can shut down Argentina's largest city whenever and however he wants.

CFK is probably heavily medicated today

Isn't there another protest scheduled December 8th?

These can't go on for very much longer before there is blood in the streets
17 Condorito (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 01:09 pm Report abuse
@4 lol.

@14
He is a union leader, what do you expect?

CFK vs the Unions is like Dumber vs Dumb. It doesn't matter who wins it is all part of the Argie real life soap opera - they love it really and that is the important thing.
18 ptolemy (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 01:32 pm Report abuse
@16 “... protest scheduled December 8th?”
Don't know, might be. December 7th is the day the government strangles the media here.
19 surfer (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 01:33 pm Report abuse
arf!...............

14 gustbury (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 12:51 pm Report abuse
Moyano is a charlatan and stupid guy!

15 Raven (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 01:02 pm Report abuse
Thanks gustbury for that insightful and well reasoned argument
20 yankeeboy (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 01:42 pm Report abuse
Twitter posts saying that La Campora etc are trashing business in downtown BA.

It would make my day if this spiraled out of control...
21 ptolemy (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 01:46 pm Report abuse
@20
I haven't seen that, but I haven't been downtown today. I not sure why La Campora would be doing that now, it's still morning.
22 LEPRecon (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 01:51 pm Report abuse
Workers of Argentina UNITE against this corrupt and ineffective government!
23 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 02:31 pm Report abuse
I wonder how many people need to be in the streets telling you that you need to go that you realize that you need to go or be removed.
24 Ozgood (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 02:46 pm Report abuse
Condorito, Ungenio is an ardent supporter of CFK

The soap opera continues. Argentina is not alone in having a populist leader who promiss everything. The country needs wise governance

The people cannot see this

Si, lloro por ti Argentina
25 yankeeboy (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 02:57 pm Report abuse
23. Considering about 1/3 of the population of BA turned out last time you'd think she would get the hint.
All they need is some blood in the streets
and She'll be on a plane to Venezuela
26 Raven (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 03:09 pm Report abuse
It will take more than a little blood spilt to lever CFK out of power.

Things could turn very nasty on the streets before she relinquishes her position. She certainly will not go willingly, unless there are just so many insurmountable problems that are about to topple her anyway, in which she'll invoke the 'Due to my health and love for my country, I intend to stand down' speech.

More worrying would be who would replace her. As Ozgood has said, wise governance is needed. Will Argentina get it when CFK finally leaves?

It's guaranteed she will go to Venezuala. With the money she has screwed out of Hugo for Argentine IMF debt, she must be one hell of a high class courtesan.
27 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 03:27 pm Report abuse
@30 Yankeeboy

“Twitter posts saying that La Campora etc are trashing business in downtown BA.”

Now, near Casa Rosada, twitter posters report “short dark shaggy” men using large keyboards to attack strikers and intimidate CLARIN journalists.
28 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 03:32 pm Report abuse
Yankee.....she was essentially pleading with the people via her facebook that they will revert back to starving masses if they do not support the kirchner plan for argentina. With poverty increasing under the kirchners, shelves in the stores becoming bare, less oil, continual infrastructure deterioration and further outcasting from the international community, even from other SA countires, maybe she will soon be hanging from her ankles.
29 yankeeboy (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 03:37 pm Report abuse
27. I bet you are right, it's after 10am and nary an Rg poster. Funny that they are ALL trapped at home today. All 2 of them and their multiple aliases.

BTW I saw Skyfall and I am pretty sure THINK looks like the Javier Bardem character swishy, dyed blond hair, terrible accent absolutely cringe worthy.
movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/javier-bardem-skyfall-best-bond-villain-ever-181233179.html
30 Idlehands (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 03:39 pm Report abuse
I'm not convinced there's any possibility of good governance in the near future. The political class in Argentina seems to be institutionally corrupt. Anyone care to suggest a name that would be considered a quality appointment? I don't know enough to have any idea.
31 yankeeboy (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 03:45 pm Report abuse
30. They need a Pinochet to fix them once and for all, someone to teach a good work ethic, obey the rules and rid them of corruption.

Other than that the country will sink further and further behind the rest of the world.
32 LEPRecon (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 03:51 pm Report abuse
@31 - Yankeeboy

I disagree. What they need is a Maggie Thatcher, who didn't care about being popular, she cared about getting the country out of the financial hole it was in.

She was brutal and dictatorial, but she was also honest and cared more about the country and its people than she did about being popular.
33 Idlehands (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 03:54 pm Report abuse
32 LEPRecon

That'll go down well here. Telling them they need a Margaret Thatcher to save them.....again!
34 Conqueror (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 03:58 pm Report abuse
There seems to be a number of articles in the Buenos Aires Herald.

Transport and services affected by national strike
National strike affects transport into the City
Banks closed amid strike
Union leaders say strike 'successful across the country'
Rosario grains int'l port closed due to strike

But there's one that's particularly funny:

CFK calls all workers 'to defend the Kirchnerite political project'

Why funny? She says “This is why I like to call all my fellow-workers to show some conscious and responsibility..............“

”Fellow-workers”. I'll bet that had them rolling in the streets!
35 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 03:58 pm Report abuse
@29 Yank

Skyfall ?? - that's their Air Force. :-)

Yes, no Trolls - either they are both on the streets or only Gustbury lives close enough to Casa Rosada to get to work.

They are conspicuous in their absence, just like last time.
Robots are being re-programmed to give consistent responses...
36 yankeeboy (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 04:13 pm Report abuse
Yeah they're all gone at the same time yet they claim to be un-coordinated. Yeah sure.
Toby used to show up at 10am on the dot and for gosh sakes Guzz posted 24hrs a day!
And how many Rg, english speaking, nordic background retourandos are there in that country. Seems like it is teeming with them. hahaha
37 The Last Viking (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 04:16 pm Report abuse
It is actually extremely funny to see the response from the pro K politicians, it is always blame the rich and that the people are supporting the government, talk about being in denial! But this take the biscuit “

www.buenosairesherald.com/article/117388/its-a-political-picket-and-not-a-workers-strike-government-says

I bet the plan leaving for Venezuela will be pretty full when time comes!

TLV
38 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 04:23 pm Report abuse
@36 yank

I would love to know the real story ... one day.

Meanwhile, Skyfall - yes, really enjoyed it and yes, the odious villain is very Think-like LOL
39 yankeeboy (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 05:14 pm Report abuse
38. Skyfall was fan-tas-tic!

I love that they stayed in UK and showed off the country.
40 Simon68 (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 05:19 pm Report abuse
30 Idlehands (#)
Nov 20th, 2012 - 03:39 pm

Yuo are absolutely right, Idle, we are between a rock and a hard place as our North American friends would say.

If CFK takes it on the lam, we will inherit Amado Boudou, aka The Money Printer.

As far as corruption goes, I think that we're better off with CFK for the moment, it is far better for her to finish her mandate and let the electorate define our next “President”. Unfortunately it will probably be another peronist, Scioli or De la Sota, it would be far better if our electorate decided on Cobos who is very middle of the road, or Binner who is left wing, but not a fanatic!!!!!
41 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 05:19 pm Report abuse
Asslips is meeting with the boy scouts at la campora today. I assume she is planning some sort of “pro kirchner” march. Of worse....violence.
42 mastershakejb (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 05:23 pm Report abuse
lol, look, an uneducated lower class Argie finally made it to an internet cafe to spazz out with half a poorly written sentence about his jealousy of USA.

Indeed, they can't be compared. One is strikes/riots so large they threaten to remove the president (arg), utter abject poverty, massive double digit inflation. The other is the eventual possibility of losing position as #1 and world reserve currency, lol
43 Pirat-Hunter (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 05:31 pm
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44 surfer (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 05:36 pm Report abuse
You've lost it..... step away from the keyboard....
45 ElaineB (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 05:38 pm Report abuse
Maybe someone could forward PH's post plus his Facebook page to the UK and US Embassies in Canada, so they can identify the lone troublemaker outside. I assume PH will be there to carry out a protest.
46 ChrisR (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 05:40 pm Report abuse
Just what is it with the LatAm posters and their typing?

Why all the....

Followed by: and....

Do they think we use osmaosis to understand one another?

Even TT is at it now, it must be catching! ;o)

Back to the topic. It seems to me that just about everything is, at last, failing in AG if what we see here is anything to go by.

Shame for the people with brains but there are so many brainless idiots in the country you have to wonder if even St. Margaret could have tackled it.
47 ProRG_American (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 05:43 pm Report abuse
Strikes are counter productive. Go to work and everyone makes more money.
48 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 05:51 pm Report abuse
@PH
Greg Palast is British, or was.

Kinda bitter - we think he is the same person as 'Domeoverintheclover' the miserable rascal.

Years of growing up in Canada - you think the Argentinians are lazy??

You really do despise your former people, don't you!?

Argentina has been going downhill ever since CFK started to run it on her own
49 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 05:51 pm Report abuse
It looks like pirater hunter is rolling his worn socks ands smoking them.

“pot banging will not build roads, pick up garbage or build a better Argentina, I know what pot banging does, it will bring Argentina back to 2001 situation or like Venezuela 2003”

Maybe it will not, but than neither is the Thief of Buenos Aires. Perhaps the bigger protest just before Xmas and after the 17 showdown.....asslips kirchner will be boarding tango one....oh wait.....is it back from the USA yet? Or still on hold waiting for parts (payment) over a technical issue?
50 Pirat-Hunter (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 06:15 pm Report abuse
#46 Maybe cows should fly.
Are you a menem, Videla or galtiery fanatic?
I think CFK is the best president Argentina had in 40 years, can you dispute that? Or can you mention the name of an alternative candidate for president in Argentina? When you have one let us know because threats and blackmail don't work with honest people.
www.gregpalast.com/the-globalizer-who-came-in-from-the-cold/
51 mastershakejb (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 06:16 pm Report abuse
@47
LOL on SOOO many levels. I can tell you're bothered by the unfolding reality ;D . And make more worthless Argie pesos? What's the point? Working under Cristina is counterproductive.
Get ready for a LOT more strikes, ProRG retard! You better learn to love the collapse of Argentina, because that's exactly what's happening.
52 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 06:20 pm Report abuse
Any governor or mayor of a large city can manage the country at a level no worse than anus mouth kirchner. You're like a moronic broken record with a new message ofd the day from la campora.....todays catch phrase is......“Show me a better candidate”......what are you from Missouri?
53 Pіrat-Hunter (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 06:24 pm Report abuse
ProRG / Suzzie the slut / Sra Lopez
May god curse your mother and destroy your house. You, shoe, you son of a shoe, you shall be hit with 60 shoes until your ass is red like a monkey’s. You are a bearded clam of the hairy check book variety.

All of us with brown skin take offence at the n-word. You are a filthy racist low life ho.

Drink some more gin and tell us about your Peruvian papi again.
@51
LOL, you are a little worm. I earn more in a week that you do in a year. You sound so jealous and desperate it makes me laugh. Go get your food ticket now, skinny little waif.
54 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 06:34 pm Report abuse
Not only more strike but more protests. I can hardly wait until we see the burning effigies of kirchner. Do you think they can find enough black paint to use as eye makeup?
55 Pirat-Hunter (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 06:42 pm Report abuse
All the Brits here are homos.
56 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 06:45 pm Report abuse
There we go the piss holer is back with his outward anger becausehis perception the world hates him because he has brown skin. The world hates because becasue he is a phoney argentine living in Canada
57 agent999 (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 06:51 pm Report abuse
@57
and you are not sussie us
58 Anbar (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 06:53 pm Report abuse
“”“I think CFK is the best president Argentina had in 40 years, can you dispute that?”“”

One thing is for certain: we can laugh a lot at it

“”“All the Brits here are homos.”“”

1. prefix: from the greek homos, it means “the same”.

All the Brits here are the same...

hmm....

O...K.....
59 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 06:53 pm
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60 Anbar (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 06:55 pm Report abuse
OR...maybe...?

“Homos”, an alternate spelling for hommus or hummus, a Levantine Arab food dip or spread made from chickpeas

“All the Brits here are food dip made from chickpeas....”

O....K....
61 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 06:58 pm Report abuse
as sapiens, we are all homos. That brown boy needs to go to argentina and talk to one of the million shrinks there
62 Ayayay (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 06:58 pm Report abuse
I understand PHs point. The Argentine culture has had big highs and lows like A CLOCK! The gov was overpraised praised for “growth” (which OF COURSE is higher after a crisis) and partly unfairly blamed for being in the toilet.
Partly. Making car salesman become rice importers and wine cooperatives to sell shoes is madness.
63 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 07:00 pm Report abuse
@46 ChrisR

”Even TT is at it now, it must be catching! ;o)“

Oops, I suppose I had better rectify that. I don't want you confusing ”TT“ with ”TTT “ :-(

On another note, I was at two demonstrations in downtown Vancouver this weekend.

A peaceful Pro-Islam gathering by the Art Gallery, the usual spot for such things. There was also a very small demonstration calling for an end to ”Israeli attacks on Palestine“ and I saw two printed signs demanding ”self-determination” for Palestine.
The Canadian Ministry for Multiculturalism set up a small tent next door, handing out brochures and pins.
All nice and peaceful like.

Perhaps Argentina could use this as an example.

The 'people', workers and middle classes could ask for their own Self-determination.

Not sure if it would be a good idea for La Campora to hand out brochures though. ... (for you, Chris)
64 agent999 (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 07:03 pm Report abuse
what happened to Sussie Compora ? @57 - (Guzz ?)
65 Sir Rodderick Bodkin (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 07:14 pm Report abuse
Looks like we are moving forward.
Honestly, i cannot wait to her out of office.

As much as i highly despise moyano, there is no other way but to keep pushing.
66 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 07:14 pm Report abuse
Have we seen “Sussie” since “Guzz” was sent to the big deleted account in the sky???
67 Ayayay (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 07:18 pm Report abuse
Homos is tasty.
68 ChrisR (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 07:31 pm Report abuse
@63 Troy Tempest

LOLs :o)
69 Pirat-Hunter (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 07:34 pm
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70 mastershakejb (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 07:39 pm Report abuse
lol i like how 57 addressed himself @57
And Israel will stop bombing Palestine when Hamas stops launching rockets, not that difficult. The charter of Hamas calls for the destruction of Israel and murder of all Israelis..........you won't read anything like that in Israel's charter.
When was the last time you saw a Jew get up and say his way was the ONLY way, and everyone else should die? Or the last time Israel had public executions for blaspheming, or public stonings for adultery?
Some Muslims are peaceful, sure, but unfortunately that religion has a system of power gaps, that extremists tend to always seize and then force all other believes into their extremist ways by threat of violence.
Islam is THE most dangerous ideology in the world today!
71 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 07:43 pm Report abuse
If you prove I am a Brit, I will give you my IRA, hows that? You are the saddest RG troll Alex......you are so angry about being born with brown skin it eats you alive. But you need not be, no one cares about the color of your skin.....even the fact the you consistently start with the homo lines. That certainly says a lot about you and your make up.
Send me your email address I have a specail link for you
72 agent999 (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 07:44 pm Report abuse
@70I was replying to a post @57 by sussie compora - the post was then deleted !
73 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 07:50 pm Report abuse
Is it not strange that some posted vanish? I've seen that before
74 Pirat-Hunter (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 08:01 pm
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75 Pіrat-Hunter (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 08:04 pm Report abuse
Poppy
So I don’t like homos, just a matter of preference really. I am not homophobic, how can I be when I am bisexual. I just don’t like the effeminate pansy gays.

mastershakejb (#)
Your ignorance and jealousy are palpable.
76 Condorito (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 08:06 pm Report abuse
It was just a matter of time before he came out.
77 mastershakejb (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 08:06 pm Report abuse
lol pirate hunter, Muslims would have you dead if they had their way, due to you not being a believer and following their strict rules
78 agentscrewed (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 08:07 pm
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79 Pirat-Hunter (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 08:13 pm Report abuse
#76 correction I am homofobic

I invite all Argentine to gather in front of UK and Us embassy and light up a Von fire as the the men in benghqzy did last month, help CFK build a better Argentina and stop licking the boots of the english retards who can see an Argentine woman like CFK works harders and has more cojones then all men in Argentia combined, we love you CFK keep up the good work and don't listen to the lazy pot bangers., CFK is the best president Argentina had in 40 years and I invite everyone to dispute that by naming a better candidate for Argentina, but chances are as usual the english will insult me and no even one name will ever be mentioned that 's how I know CFK will stay in power for a lot longer then anyone can predict, pot banging will not build roads, pick up garbage or build a better Argentina, I know what pot banging does, it will bring Argentina back to 2001 situation or like Venezuela 2003, maybe this pot banging Argentine really do deserve someone like menem, galtiery or videla. www.gregpalast.com/the-globalizer-who-came-in-from-the-cold/
80 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 08:22 pm Report abuse
@73 poppy
Yes, mysteriously disappeared, but those forces are very discerning.

Poppy, PH - ALEX is so lazy - everything come out of the “Boys Big Book of Campora”, but paid La Campora feel he is a liability and ask him not to post.

I think your IRA is safe. :-)

He seems very sensitive about racial slurs towards brown people and got very angry at “Sussie”. I don't blame him.

However, the funny thing is, we the critics of CFK , and “The Trolls”(paid trolls) all think that PH-ALEX and Sussie are alike. Both are ranting nutcases and treated as such.

BTW,
Any update on the protests? Any idea if they are calling for CFK's head.
Have the 'real' (not ALEX) La Campora shown up ???
81 agent999 (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 08:23 pm Report abuse
@73 Captain Poppy

It was happening a lot just before Guzz disappeared and the site was closed for comments.
82 Conqueror (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 08:33 pm Report abuse
@43 Oh ho. Alex the asylum hunter speaks again. Let us take all his shit....sorry, words and commit them to memory. Strange that he doesn't mention which UK and US embassies. Those in Canada so that he can skulk around, perhaps? Yes, he has no cojones, he has no cojones today! But I will take up his challenge. A better president for argieland would be Francisco Franco. I know he's dead, but that makes him perfect. After all, he caused over half a million Spaniards to flee to South America with around 300,000 of them being in argieland.
@47 CFK is counter-productive. And what would argies (wrigglies) know about “work”? More holidays than anywhere else in the world.
@50 At what point in time did you learn anything about “honest people”? I only know of one honest Argentine. He calls himself “Simon68”. There may be others that come on here but are ashamed to mention their nationality. You, of course, are up there with CFK, Tinpotman, PutridJelly, ArguJello, VoodooBoodoo, Florence the Randy glove puppet, Alicia VON Kirchner, Herman the Merman, Julio the Lacking, Carlos the Tomato as totally DISHONEST. We know about their corrupt, thieving ways. How about yours?
@53 Oh look. Alex has got upset. Alex, of course, has forgotten, conveniently, that argieland is racist. It's in their constitution. Is that why he fled to a British-originated nation? Are they the only ones that would take him? Do they know he's there? Do we think he should be careful of using that word “earn”. Wonder if his “employer” knows about his internet use?
@55 Tell us, alex. Why do you wear your hair so long? Can I see mascara and eye-shadow on your pic? Have you tried washing? In a worst case, you could always roll in the snow.
@63 Really? Could you pop over to Toronto and put alex out of his misery?
@64 Watch for the idiot names and comments. That's her.
@69 Run out of ideas, have you? Re-posting? Tell you what, alex. Why don't you swallow your dick? You'd like that.
83 Pirat-Hunter (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 08:37 pm Report abuse
#73 and #81 you too still upset i know you are both homosexuals and perverts? You don't have to hack my nick to say it when i already knew it from day one. Next time you too get a gay tantrum take your meds and do something productive like shooting yourselves, no one here will care nor notice.

I invite all Argentine to gather in front of UK and Us embassy and light up a Von fire as the the men in benghqzy did last month, help CFK build a better Argentina and stop licking the boots of the english retards who can see an Argentine woman like CFK works harders and has more cojones then all men in Argentia combined, we love you CFK keep up the good work and don't listen to the lazy pot bangers., CFK is the best president Argentina had in 40 years and I invite everyone to dispute that by naming a better candidate for Argentina, but chances are as usual the english will insult me and no even one name will ever be mentioned that 's how I know CFK will stay in power for a lot longer then anyone can predict, pot banging will not build roads, pick up garbage or build a better Argentina, I know what pot banging does, it will bring Argentina back to 2001 situation or like Venezuela 2003, maybe this pot banging Argentine really do deserve someone like menem, galtiery or videla.
www.gregpalast.com/the-globalizer-who-came-in-from-the-cold/
84 tobias (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 08:39 pm Report abuse
Troy,
I assure you we don’t pay a single penny for PH’s patent infantile drivel. He is beyond the La Campora pale. He can’t even decide if he is bisexual or not.

Sussie (aka ProRG, agentscrewed , etc) is a British imposter trying to defame Argentina. It is the lowest of all posters and roundly rebuked by all sides. All its comments should be ignored.
85 tobias (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 08:53 pm Report abuse
87 Sussie
We know exactly who you are and which usernames you use. We downloaded the server files which have been passed to an enforcer to follow up on.

Follow up involves prosecution outside of the standard legal framework. Your termination has begun.
86 Pirat-Hunter (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 08:55 pm
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87 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 09:01 pm Report abuse
#81 Troy I am sure he didn't even know what an IRA is. Of course crustina stole everyones in Argentina.
I think people need to get over their sensitives of there skin color. We went through a period where we had to deal with reverse descrimination because of the racism of the past. You tend to hear the ”white mans' world comments when in fact, the Chinese rule as the majority. There is in fact only 3 type of homo sapiens on earth from a anthrologic POV......a caucasoid, a mongoloid and a negroid. And each od these have sub races. So you really are either black, asian and everything else.

Agent999

Guzz seemed to have totally disapeared. Maybe la campora offed !....lol That was weird when all comments stopped. I compalined a number of times because they were referring everyone to facebook.....a very easily traceble source from commentors.
88 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 09:22 pm Report abuse
I need help....can anyone tell me what.....“I am scare” means?
89 Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 09:38 pm Report abuse
So where are the holy mods that so jealously guard this website whe people impersonate another? That “tobias” is another admirer of the great (late) Sage Tobias later TTT, one of the many that have impersonated this great historical figure.
90 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 09:42 pm Report abuse
So lets some this up......all unionised workers are against kirchner, the middle classes disdain has been shown in the streets, the rich she steals from is suppose to be far and few.....who is left, other than the few trolls on here.....no one?If she was smart she should take your stolen fortunate and leave while she is still breathing.
91 tobias (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 09:48 pm Report abuse
@94
I never left you, I am omnipresent.
Release my coattails you unworthy groupie.
92 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 09:50 pm Report abuse
@92poppy

I didn't hear ANYTHING. :-)

@86Tobias
“I assure you we don’t pay a single penny for PH’s patent infantile drivel. He is beyond the La Campora pale. He can’t even decide if he is bisexual or not.”

And I assure you, Tobias, I believe it. We agree on that, at least.

- personally, I don't think he understands half of what he reads at the Campora Juvenil site he has posted on Facebook.

- besides we know he can't leave Canada, makes excuses, has no idea about travel, and apart from literally wrapping himself in the Argentine flag in photos, he is more Canadian now.
He went to high school in Canada, and lives in Canada - no way is Argentina going to send dollars out of RG for him LOL

However, sexually confused “Sussie” is very much like PH ALEX, but lives in BA. One of yours for sure, though tragically, looks like the 'electro-shock conditioning' failed. :-(
93 Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 09:52 pm Report abuse
You are not the real Tobias/TTT, he is in the Pantheon of the Empyreal Demiurges.

Just like Jesus Christ has many impostors claiming to be his 2nd coming, you are just that for TTT. When (if) he ever returns, everyone will immediately be able to tell. But I'm not fully converted to Tobianism so go ask the many other worshippers about the 2nd coming of TTT.
94 Anbar (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 09:55 pm Report abuse
“””Sussie (aka ProRG, agentscrewed , etc) is a British imposter trying to defame Argentina. It is the lowest of all posters and roundly rebuked by all sides. All its comments should be ignored.“””

there's quite a few like that on here.... /random platitude BK, the Think-Gestalt (at least they are amusing though, and rarely descend into drooling nonsense...well, mostly....

Our most recent influx of new-name idiocy does appear to be Guzz again I'm afraid. :-(
95 Pirat-Hunter (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 09:59 pm
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96 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 10:01 pm Report abuse
@98 Nostril

“You are not the real Tobias/TTT, he is in the Pantheon of the Empyreal Demiurges.”

So was the “imposter” TTT/Tobias spreading misinformation, then, PH ALEX really IS La Campora, after all???
97 tobias (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 10:02 pm Report abuse
98
Shut down trekkie and await further instructions.
98 Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 10:02 pm Report abuse
I don't know what he is doing, all I can tell you he is not Tobias. Tobias has not posted in at least 6 months when he went into voluntary exile.
99 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 10:20 pm Report abuse
@100 PH ALEX

“No one can come up with at least one candidate? I rest my case CFK is the best, keep banging pots maybe one will materialize.”

Hey dummy, somebody already suggested Moyano.

I think my cat could do better than CFK.

In a few short years CFK has run your previously recovering country into the ground, just to line her pockets.

Unless she grants you some kind of kinky geriatric sexual favours, I don't know why you support her.

Please tell us all why CFK is best - or don't you know??
100 tobias (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 10:21 pm Report abuse
I took a sabbatical semester during which time I explored the sublime and majestic beauty of my natal continent.

I have seen, lived and learned and am wiser and humbler for it.

Let my movements not concern you trekkie.
101 Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 10:28 pm Report abuse
So when will the mods efface this impostor?
102 Ayayay (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 10:37 pm Report abuse
HahahahahahahHahaha
103 Pirate Love (#) Nov 20th, 2012 - 11:16 pm Report abuse
@55 is that a cry for help??? are you advertising??? or as i suspect it is wishful thinking.
either way you are brit-ist and a homophobic argie in dire need to be dominated by a gnarley brit with his big weapon in his hand just like 1982 :)

ever tried animals?
104 functor (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 12:18 am Report abuse
Question for Simon68:

Protests and strikes are becoming more frequent:
September 13, then November 8, then November 27.

It seems likely to me (just from reading the news; never been to South America)
that CFK will last for at most a few more months before she is kicked out. What's your take?

Are there some clear favorites who may become the president if she is brought down?
You mentioned some names above; which ones have better chances?

Thanks!
105 Ayayay (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 01:16 am Report abuse
@ph
Studies show that -authoritarianism -can take ppl from a more natural 'middle' of affection/sense expression and push them up up up the Kinsey scale.

IMHO, Noone has to worry about becoming 'faggy', as you said, if they start following their own heart & stop having their lives be driven by the boring lesser good of 'following or rebelling at' some authority.

In nature, (unlike confined, aka -authoritarian- labs) there's no animals with exclusive orientation towards it's own gender, but playfulness & love- universal.
106 ElaineB (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 01:36 am Report abuse
So, CFKC has blasted the unions and the strike. ”“No one is going to pressure me, especially with threats, bullying or thugs. These are not the leaders that Perón and Evita wanted,”. Quite.

It is not ONE person pressuring her to change but millions.

And they are certainly NOT the leaders that Peron wanted. He liked his union leaders well indoctrinated and doing as they were told by him.

The reference to Evita is somewhat desperate, don't you think?
107 KFC de Pollo (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 01:51 am Report abuse
107 have you seen her latest speeches? i don't think its possible to squeeze in any more images of evita! its hilarious
108 ElaineB (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 02:06 am Report abuse
@107 Yes, I noticed the images multiplying as the unrest progresses. She knows that images of Evita will evoke a mawkish reaction from the masses. When she dyes her hair blonde and puts it in a bun we will know she has lost the plot completely.

What she fails to realise is that it is one thing to subsidise football, stand next to pictures of Evita and shout about the mythical Malvinas when people think their lives are improving. But people are genuinely worried about insecurity, their shrinking wages and loss of freedom. They tide has turned and they are not going to listen to her distractions.
109 St.John (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 06:53 am Report abuse
Have you seen how well British_Kirchnerist's heroina has filled her coffer?

Since 2003 the Kirchner couple has jumped from AR$ 7 million to AR$ 89 million - an increase of 1 271 percent in 9 years, and of course all of it come from the most honest theft one can imagine.

“El crecimiento de los bienes de los Kirchner: de 7 a 89 millones de pesos” www.lanacion.com.ar/1525583-el-crecimiento-de-los-bienes-de-los-kirchner-de-7-a-89-millones-de-pesos
110 toooldtodieyoung (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 07:47 am Report abuse
I wondered why Ol' turkey neck / KFC / TMBOA / The Harpy is over in New York at the moment, sitting in on a commitee that is worthy of her talents......... It's so she is not in Argentina right now........ When the going gets tough...........
111 briton (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 12:45 pm Report abuse
the people have a right to strike,
CFK should tell em the truth,
their broke , skint ,
still as long as she keep hugo happy.?
112 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 02:33 pm Report abuse
If I were the judge, I would asslips that before I make a decision, I need to do an audit of your reserves.
113 Simon68 (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 03:09 pm Report abuse
104 functor (#)
Nov 21st, 2012 - 12:18 am

The very best thing for Argentina would be that CFK finish her mandate in 2015, but would listen to what the great majority of the populace is asking her: To tackle inflation; to stop her personal vendetta against the independent press; to tackle the increasing insecurity; to speak out against the re-re-election; to stop trying to take over the federal judiciary.

As to who could be a presidential candidate, my personal choice would be Julio Cobos, but I seriously doubt that he would be elected. So the real favourites would probably be the peronists, Scioli (present governor of Buenos Aires Province) or De la Sota (present governor of Córdoba Province) or possibly, if the electorate prefer the left wing, Hermes Binner who for a left winger is probably the right choice as he is not a fanatic and certainly is an honest man!!!!
114 Idlehands (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 03:12 pm Report abuse
An article on the matter on the Russia Today website:

rt.com/news/argentina-mass-protest-strike-212/

Fill your boots leaving comments.
115 Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 03:18 pm Report abuse
Don't you look ridiculous and desperate using Russian sources to further your anti-argentinism????

Russians commenting on a strike (they have no such rights in Russia), is a funny as Latin Americans complaining about Argentina's poverty, or as funny as Europeans complaining about Argentina's debt, or as funny as Americans complaining about armed violence in Argentina.

It is completely obvious that the rest of the world has not a gram of self-shame. Thank goodness I'm argentine, the only people with a shred of decency left on this orb.
116 Idlehands (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 03:27 pm Report abuse
I'm not using Russia Today to further any arguments. There are even more idiots posting over there than there are here.

It's clear you didn't acually read the article.
117 Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 03:58 pm Report abuse
@116

I don't read the foreign press. Is a joke.
118 Idlehands (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 04:02 pm Report abuse
If you don't read it then how do you know it's a joke?

NB You are right though - Russia Today is a joke - and very funny too.
119 Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 04:07 pm Report abuse
Come on... Even the most hardcore Brit knows the UK media for ages has been seen as an utter joke and beyond laughable. The Sun, Daily Mail, NOTW, need I say more? To a lesser extent the same can be said of Der Spiegel, the French bloques, Spanish or Italian fringe rags, etc....

The USA has never had actual “press”. What passes for newspapers there are a joke. And their news cable channels are either to the right of Attila or to the left of Pol Pot.

The media in the rest of the world is not worth discussing.

Argentine media, newspapers, and tv channels are fare superior.
120 Idlehands (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 04:12 pm Report abuse
They aren't newspapers they are just gossip columns.

The “proper” UK press are The Guardian, The Telegraph,The Times and The Independent.
121 functor (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 04:44 pm Report abuse
113 Simon68 (#)

You may be right in the above comment about what the best thing would be, but it
won't happen as far as I can see. It's more practical to think about likely rather than
desired outcomes. I looked very briefly at some of the names you mentioned.
Cobos seems great, Binner less so. Binner's block voted to support expropriating 51% of
YPF from Repsol:

www.taringa.net/posts/noticias/14575618/Binner-apoyara-la-expropiacion-de-YPF.html

This is not sound economic thinking. I would have to look into his economic program
and more into his party's voting record (will be hampered by lack of english language sources, but might manage with google translate).
From a very brief glance it seems like the best chance for your country would be to elect UCR. Within UCR, is Cobos the obvious top choice?
122 Simon68 (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 04:57 pm Report abuse
121 functor (#)
Nov 21st, 2012 - 04:44 pm

Cobos is MY top choice, I would hope that all supporters of the UCR would have that same opinion, but unfortunately I think they will probably select Ricardo Alfonsín as their preffered candidate.

As you say my hopes that CFK remains in office for the whole of her mandate are quite possibly wishful thinking, but the alternative which is either impeaching her, which would not succede, or her resigning would mean putting up with Amado Boudou (investigated for influence peddling and other corrupt practices) as her replacement, IMHO this would be even worse than CFK!!!!
123 Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 05:02 pm Report abuse
Cobos was an OK governor, not great, not bad. The problem is his somewhat conciliatory temperament works for Mendoza (where people are far more into compromise and fairness), but does not work in the world of uber-passionate Buenos Aires. To govern there, you need a very strong spine, and also a bit intransigent. He would be a weak president, bullied around by threats because Mendoza unions and businessmen are nowhere nearly as extreme or belligerent as those in the east.
124 functor (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 05:19 pm Report abuse
122 Simon68 (#)
123 Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#)

Thanks for feedback!
Amado Boudou indeed is hardly attractive:

www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/15/amado-boudou-illegal-enrichment_n_1516966.html

If CFK is forced out, wouldn't Boudou be kicked out as well? If you look at previous instances of a president forced out of the office before his term expired, was it always that the vice-president got the job?

Does Ricardo Alfonsin have any credentials (a record as a competent politician) other than being the son of Raul Alfonsin? CFK perfectly exemplifies how dangerous is to select a president based solely on family ties.
125 TipsyThink (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 06:47 pm Report abuse
The genéral strikes are alwaýs non dečlared popúlar másš sport days thats all ...in Argentina.
126 remove by mercopress (#) Nov 24th, 2012 - 05:00 am Report abuse
Isolde aka Lady Troy tender testicles (TTT)
she is gone forever
127 British_Kirchnerist (#) Nov 27th, 2012 - 11:58 pm Report abuse
#124 But Cristina was NOT elected just due to family ties, she was a political leader in her own right throughout her marriage! Moyano wants to take over himself, thats why he's running this scab strike, meanwhile the right wingers further up the thread gleefully speculate about a Thatcher or even a Pinochet. Cristina 2015!

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