Wednesday, November 21st 2012 - 07:48 UTC

Day of protest a “complete success” and “much stronger than we expected”

Argentine labour unions leaders said that support for the successful national strike was “much stronger than we expected” and urged President Cristina Fernández to listen to “people’s message.”

“The ball remains in the government’s court” said union leader Julio Piumato

One of the 160 pickets

“The protest reflected people’s dissatisfaction with what is happening in the country and the Government’s lack of responses. The silence in the streets is what the Government should listen to” said dissident CGT union leader and teamster Hugo Moyano during a press conference along with Agrarian Federation head Eduardo Buzzi and other unions’ leaders.

“At one time I thought this government was national and popular. But it discriminates against the most vulnerable people of our society: children and the elderly. How can they discriminate against our children; when they put a cap on family pensions? This Government is far from national and popular,” Moyano added.

Pablo Micheli chief of CTA, the other big workers union behind the strike assured the one day protest was “a complete success” and underlined that “thousands joined us to protest a government that doesn't want to listen to us“.

The secretary-general of the Argentine court workers union Julio Piumato said that members of the anti-government branch of the CGT were “very happy” with the development of the strike and that “the ball will remain in the government’s court” regarding workers’ demands.

“Today all workers are giving a great example of unity by taking aside any differences that might exist between their union leaders.”

”The strike is a total success. We must understand the situation workers are experiencing. A large portion of the working class is unregistered or working off-shore positions, all which is nothing but a sign of how precarious the labour situation is.”

“And those who are working today must be sad since they feel oppressed as they can’t claim for their rights. This also confirms how precarious the labour situation is for some workers”, Piumato remarked.

Likewise, Piumato asked a group of journalists: Can you join the strike? Many of your colleagues told me they can’t because if they do, they will lose their jobs. Well, to me those are not the ideal working conditions. It reveals the pressure put by your bosses to you and to your unions so you don’t join measures like this.”

Asked about the roadblocks set in the BA City surrounding areas, Piumato explained: “Everybody knew that there will be tickets. They [pickets] are part of the protests, and the people knew it beforehand.”

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1 mastershakejb (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 09:37 am Report abuse
;D lol
2 DanyBerger (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 10:49 am Report abuse
Time to scrap the unions perhaps????
3 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 10:55 am Report abuse

Yes Dany. Scrap more of the people's voice.
4 redpoll (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 11:56 am Report abuse
Well Dunny,a good historical precedent for that. The leader of the National Socialist Party of German Workers did just that. His name? Herr Adolf Hitler
5 Mrlayback (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 12:31 pm Report abuse
@2 more like time to scrap CFK, D'elia, Moreno, Medina, Oyarbide, Randazzo, Fernandez and La Campora!! flush them down the shitter were they belond...
6 Pirate Love (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 12:31 pm Report abuse
@2 clarin, Unions.....Silencing The Falkands didnt work whos next U.N, Military on the streets??

eliminating any voice of opposition, basically sums Crustinas regime up,
DICTOCRACY! Dictatorship in Democracy clothing.

nice to see you support the suppression of democracy Dany, interesting.
7 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 01:37 pm Report abuse
Scrap the unions, scrap the middle class and of course the well to do is not in her corner. What is left Dany? What is the population of the poor in Argentina Danyberger.......are they the new overwhelming majority in Argentina.....poor people, that will support your president?
8 Simon68 (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 02:17 pm Report abuse
No peronist survived without the support of the unions. Take note CFK!!!!!!
9 redpoll (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 04:41 pm Report abuse
Trolls a bit silent today? Recommend that some of them go and discharge in the dunny and use for toilet paper you know what
10 ProRG_American (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 04:56 pm Report abuse
More Balloney from the Moyano Waffen SS. Seems as if the strike was widely unpopular and enforced by armed thugery an strett blockages.
The Government will just let these events happen. They seem to be running out of steam as each of them take place.

Oh by the way, can you Brit Trolls help out with this matter
11 Conqueror (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 05:18 pm Report abuse
@2 Thought argieland was supposed to be a democracy? Blown that lie, haven't you?
@10 Still too late. Didn't CFK tweet “Please save me. I still need another US$30 million. Or is that US$130 million? Never mind. Still need loads more of your money. I'm not greedy. Another US$100 million will do. Then I'll go. Unless you suckers are dumb enough to want to elect me again. Just give me a chance. I reckon I can sqeeze US$25 million a year for every year I'm in power!”
12 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 06:02 pm Report abuse
@10 ProTroll

Good try at distraction, Troll, - an off-topic story in an Argentine government-run newspaper about an assault in London.

Poor girl - has nothing to do with the massive protests in Buenos Aires against the incompetent, corrupt government of Argentina that is waging a war against the workers and middle-classes.
13 ElaineB (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 06:15 pm Report abuse
@10 Maybe it was a frustrated Guzz? Haven't seen him around here lately.
14 ChrisR (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 06:47 pm Report abuse
10 ProRG_Argie

Well, I can see your early years in AG were really well spent! I thought you were an American? Surely not. Even allowing for the yawning chasm between English and American even this little example is beyond the pale. No, I think you have never left AG. After the brackets the CORRECT spelling / grammar is given (FIVE errors in total).

More Balloney (sic) boloney from the Moyano Waffen SS. Seems as if the strike was widely unpopular and enforced by armed thugery (sic) thugs an (sic) and strett (sic) street blockages.
The Government will just let these events happen. They seem to be running out of steam as each of them take (sic) takes place.
15 briton (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 08:08 pm Report abuse
No smoke without fire,

CFK has tried her best, but failed
Failed the economy
Failed to get the little abandoned ship back
Failed to get the Falklands
Failed with the brits,
Failed at the UN
Failed at the G20
Failed with the unions
Failed her own people,
Failed, failed, failed,

She did succeed at getting money from Hugo the bear,
And support from Spain,
no pain no gain .lolol
16 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 08:21 pm Report abuse
She has crippled her country by failing in diplomacy. As her countries economy dwindles and gets kicked out of the G20....there is always room in the G24 or G77
17 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 22nd, 2012 - 01:06 am Report abuse
18 jakesnake (#) Nov 22nd, 2012 - 02:57 am Report abuse
Is Sussie really Tobi in drag?
19 toooldtodieyoung (#) Nov 22nd, 2012 - 11:32 am Report abuse
10 ProRG_American

“More Balloney from the Moyano Waffen SS”
............and after welcoming them with open arms at the end of the 2nd World War, you would know all about the waffen SS wouldn't you?
20 British_Kirchnerist (#) Nov 24th, 2012 - 01:03 am Report abuse
When Cristina is struggling so mightily against the world financial elite, to have a political strike against her (as opposed to, say, a strike about wages in a specific workplace) is actually political scabbing...

#2 There are good unions too though arent't there Danny, that still support Cristina, and stand up to the careerist demagogue Moyano...

#10 “Seems as if the strike was widely unpopular and enforced by armed thugery an strett blockages”

That sounds about right, Moyano strikes me as a mafia man

“The Government will just let these events happen. They seem to be running out of steam as each of them take place”

That seems worrying. I know you support Argentina so when you say they're running out of steam I take notice in a way I don't with clowns like yankeeboy et all. While I don't support the government repressing strikes, obviously, surely they could call counter protests. And do you think they're running out of steam more broadly. I know you said some time before that you expect Scioli to be the next President, a conservative Peronist, yet between Cristina and Binner the left got 71%at the last election, and since then the right/left struggle has only intensified with the attacks of the IMF, so I wouldn't see Argentina dropping out of the progressive tide in Latin America, and certainly not without the Cristinistas putting up a fight. Your thoughts?
21 DanyBerger (#) Nov 24th, 2012 - 08:01 am Report abuse
@ British_Kirchnerist

I don’t agree with the stuff of the unions in the long run they are a pain in the @ss because always they want more power and seem to don’t know when is time to stop. They end harming business, own workers and the whole society.

So workers have to know that supporting that kind of union leaders will not be for free.

So as in military training when some of the lad doesn’t want to run as the rest for being lazy or whatever the instructor officer provides punishment to the whole group.

Late at night comes disciplinary task force from the rest of the lads and the next day he will be the faster runner among the army. Always works...
22 British_Kirchnerist (#) Nov 24th, 2012 - 10:04 am Report abuse
#21 Can't agree with you on unions in general, their role in the UK has always been very positive which is why the Tories hate them so much, but I certainly agree about the thug Moyano
23 ChrisR (#) Nov 24th, 2012 - 10:34 am Report abuse
@22 BSK

Ha, ha, ha. You deluded pillock, now I know you are a commie.

I KNEW Red Robbo personally. You remember him being that 'positive' that the management at BMC / Leyland couldn't do a thing with the business.

And the remarkable thing was he was very personable when he was not on 'stage' gobbing off to the media. GEC had a programme of meeting these characters for their directors to see what they were up against.

We had Robbo up to lunch in the director’s dining room and it was obvious what his problem was. His father had been a rabid communist just after WW1 and had been smacked around because of it. Obviously as a small child he was indoctrinated in s world of fantasy (much as you and AG are in) where the 'people are going to inherit the world.

We met other contemporary with him but with a shrewd brain on their shoulders: much easier to negotiate with but more dangerous in the long run because they could think for themselves.
24 British_Kirchnerist (#) Nov 24th, 2012 - 11:38 pm Report abuse
#23 “I KNEW Red Robbo personally”

Then you knew a hero =) Do you not even have grudging respect for him?
25 DanyBerger (#) Nov 25th, 2012 - 09:52 am Report abuse

Unions in UK always have been powerless but in Argentina they have more power than in France or Italy.

They also controls the health care system of they associates employees (what is compulsory) so if you start to work in Argentina as a truck driver for example you end up under the Moyano hands.

Only Moyano according with “La Destruccion” receives per month around $147 million pesos or U$s 30,75 (dollar) a total of 360millions dollar at year.

Now multiply this for all existing unions that exist in Argentina over a work force of 17millions and someone are far much bigger than Moyano union.

A truck driver today earns around 8000 pesos if he is single and close to 14000 if he has family lets say 2 kid and wife. So the net salary is for the former guy $2928,87 US dollars or $35.146 US dollar at year.

Commercial Pilots average salary in US is $23,300 at year so as you can see would be cheaper to employ US pilots to drive a truck than Moyano truck drivers that always are on strikes.

I guess that is a good business just to perform some strikes.
What do you think?
26 British_Kirchnerist (#) Nov 26th, 2012 - 02:37 am Report abuse
Yes that does sound like quite a different, and worse, model of trade unionism, kind of explains why corrupt thugs like Moyano have risen to the top. Cristina should introduce an NHS, Cuban/British (the only time I can use those examples interchangably!) universal healthcare syste; a good thing to do anyway but also to undercut Moyano. What do you think?
27 DanyBerger (#) Nov 26th, 2012 - 08:58 am Report abuse

Argentina also has a universal health care system, all public hospitals will treat any resident for free even if they are foreigners. Yeah sounds silly but is the way it is. So people from others countries practice what is called here sanitary tourism to Argentina.

And that is one of the reason why the system sometime looks like is to collapse because the hospitals have long queues with people from abroad asking for free treatment and the hospital cannot refuse to treat them.

But unions have the privilege to run its own health care service system among other stuff for their affiliates only someone most are really good. They also have hotels and tourism service for their affiliates, loans, etc.

So Argies workers have a lot of benefits but always complain because they take for granted all benefit stuff thinking that they are available in all countries.

This is a hotel for the workers on the milk stuff

This is a hotel for the affiliates of Moyano in Mar del Plata

This is a hotels for the employees of electricity supply sector

As you can see is not like UK unions ARG unions move a lot of money and has a lot of power.

Also in Argentina exist private health care system so you can have your health coverage from a private company.

The same is for education public and private both are supported by the state the private receive a subsidy from the state.

So I don’t know why some morons are complaining because in Argentina you can choose the system that more you like from complete free to the most expensive.

Cheers mate,

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