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Day of protest a “complete success” and “much stronger than we expected”
Argentine labour unions leaders said that support for the successful national strike was “much stronger than we expected” and urged President Cristina Fernández to listen to “people’s message.” Read full article
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Nov 21st, 2012 - 09:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Time to scrap the unions perhaps????
Nov 21st, 2012 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse 02
Nov 21st, 2012 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes Dany. Scrap more of the people's voice.
Well Dunny,a good historical precedent for that. The leader of the National Socialist Party of German Workers did just that. His name? Herr Adolf Hitler
Nov 21st, 2012 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0@2 more like time to scrap CFK, D'elia, Moreno, Medina, Oyarbide, Randazzo, Fernandez and La Campora!! flush them down the shitter were they belond...
Nov 21st, 2012 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@2 clarin, Unions.....Silencing The Falkands didnt work whos next U.N, Military on the streets??
Nov 21st, 2012 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0eliminating any voice of opposition, basically sums Crustinas regime up,
DICTOCRACY! Dictatorship in Democracy clothing.
nice to see you support the suppression of democracy Dany, interesting.
Scrap the unions, scrap the middle class and of course the well to do is not in her corner. What is left Dany? What is the population of the poor in Argentina Danyberger.......are they the new overwhelming majority in Argentina.....poor people, that will support your president?
Nov 21st, 2012 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No peronist survived without the support of the unions. Take note CFK!!!!!!
Nov 21st, 2012 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Trolls a bit silent today? Recommend that some of them go and discharge in the dunny and use for toilet paper you know what
Nov 21st, 2012 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0More Balloney from the Moyano Waffen SS. Seems as if the strike was widely unpopular and enforced by armed thugery an strett blockages.
Nov 21st, 2012 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Government will just let these events happen. They seem to be running out of steam as each of them take place.
Oh by the way, can you Brit Trolls help out with this matter
http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/117468/police-seek-man-who-knocked-out-girl-in-london-street-assault
@2 Thought argieland was supposed to be a democracy? Blown that lie, haven't you?
Nov 21st, 2012 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@10 Still too late. Didn't CFK tweet “Please save me. I still need another US$30 million. Or is that US$130 million? Never mind. Still need loads more of your money. I'm not greedy. Another US$100 million will do. Then I'll go. Unless you suckers are dumb enough to want to elect me again. Just give me a chance. I reckon I can sqeeze US$25 million a year for every year I'm in power!”
@10 ProTroll
Nov 21st, 2012 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good try at distraction, Troll, - an off-topic story in an Argentine government-run newspaper about an assault in London.
Poor girl - has nothing to do with the massive protests in Buenos Aires against the incompetent, corrupt government of Argentina that is waging a war against the workers and middle-classes.
@10 Maybe it was a frustrated Guzz? Haven't seen him around here lately.
Nov 21st, 2012 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 010 ProRG_Argie
Nov 21st, 2012 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, I can see your early years in AG were really well spent! I thought you were an American? Surely not. Even allowing for the yawning chasm between English and American even this little example is beyond the pale. No, I think you have never left AG. After the brackets the CORRECT spelling / grammar is given (FIVE errors in total).
More Balloney (sic) boloney from the Moyano Waffen SS. Seems as if the strike was widely unpopular and enforced by armed thugery (sic) thugs an (sic) and strett (sic) street blockages.
The Government will just let these events happen. They seem to be running out of steam as each of them take (sic) takes place.
No smoke without fire,
Nov 21st, 2012 - 08:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CFK has tried her best, but failed
Failed the economy
Failed to get the little abandoned ship back
Failed to get the Falklands
Failed with the brits,
Failed at the UN
Failed at the G20
Failed with the unions
Failed her own people,
Failed, failed, failed,
Still,
She did succeed at getting money from Hugo the bear,
And support from Spain,
So
no pain no gain .lolol
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She has crippled her country by failing in diplomacy. As her countries economy dwindles and gets kicked out of the G20....there is always room in the G24 or G77
Nov 21st, 2012 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/21/us-mexico-argentina-idUSBRE8AK1JR20121121
Nov 22nd, 2012 - 01:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is Sussie really Tobi in drag?
Nov 22nd, 2012 - 02:57 am - Link - Report abuse 010 ProRG_American
Nov 22nd, 2012 - 11:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0“More Balloney from the Moyano Waffen SS”
............and after welcoming them with open arms at the end of the 2nd World War, you would know all about the waffen SS wouldn't you?
When Cristina is struggling so mightily against the world financial elite, to have a political strike against her (as opposed to, say, a strike about wages in a specific workplace) is actually political scabbing...
Nov 24th, 2012 - 01:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0#2 There are good unions too though arent't there Danny, that still support Cristina, and stand up to the careerist demagogue Moyano...
#10 “Seems as if the strike was widely unpopular and enforced by armed thugery an strett blockages”
That sounds about right, Moyano strikes me as a mafia man
“The Government will just let these events happen. They seem to be running out of steam as each of them take place”
That seems worrying. I know you support Argentina so when you say they're running out of steam I take notice in a way I don't with clowns like yankeeboy et all. While I don't support the government repressing strikes, obviously, surely they could call counter protests. And do you think they're running out of steam more broadly. I know you said some time before that you expect Scioli to be the next President, a conservative Peronist, yet between Cristina and Binner the left got 71%at the last election, and since then the right/left struggle has only intensified with the attacks of the IMF, so I wouldn't see Argentina dropping out of the progressive tide in Latin America, and certainly not without the Cristinistas putting up a fight. Your thoughts?
@ British_Kirchnerist
Nov 24th, 2012 - 08:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don’t agree with the stuff of the unions in the long run they are a pain in the @ss because always they want more power and seem to don’t know when is time to stop. They end harming business, own workers and the whole society.
So workers have to know that supporting that kind of union leaders will not be for free.
So as in military training when some of the lad doesn’t want to run as the rest for being lazy or whatever the instructor officer provides punishment to the whole group.
Late at night comes disciplinary task force from the rest of the lads and the next day he will be the faster runner among the army. Always works...
#21 Can't agree with you on unions in general, their role in the UK has always been very positive which is why the Tories hate them so much, but I certainly agree about the thug Moyano
Nov 24th, 2012 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0@22 BSK
Nov 24th, 2012 - 10:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ha, ha, ha. You deluded pillock, now I know you are a commie.
I KNEW Red Robbo personally. You remember him being that 'positive' that the management at BMC / Leyland couldn't do a thing with the business.
And the remarkable thing was he was very personable when he was not on 'stage' gobbing off to the media. GEC had a programme of meeting these characters for their directors to see what they were up against.
We had Robbo up to lunch in the director’s dining room and it was obvious what his problem was. His father had been a rabid communist just after WW1 and had been smacked around because of it. Obviously as a small child he was indoctrinated in s world of fantasy (much as you and AG are in) where the 'people are going to inherit the world.
We met other contemporary with him but with a shrewd brain on their shoulders: much easier to negotiate with but more dangerous in the long run because they could think for themselves.
#23 “I KNEW Red Robbo personally”
Nov 24th, 2012 - 11:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then you knew a hero =) Do you not even have grudging respect for him?
@British_Kirchnerist
Nov 25th, 2012 - 09:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Unions in UK always have been powerless but in Argentina they have more power than in France or Italy.
They also controls the health care system of they associates employees (what is compulsory) so if you start to work in Argentina as a truck driver for example you end up under the Moyano hands.
Only Moyano according with “La Destruccion” receives per month around $147 million pesos or U$s 30,75 (dollar) a total of 360millions dollar at year.
Now multiply this for all existing unions that exist in Argentina over a work force of 17millions and someone are far much bigger than Moyano union.
A truck driver today earns around 8000 pesos if he is single and close to 14000 if he has family lets say 2 kid and wife. So the net salary is for the former guy $2928,87 US dollars or $35.146 US dollar at year.
Commercial Pilots average salary in US is $23,300 at year so as you can see would be cheaper to employ US pilots to drive a truck than Moyano truck drivers that always are on strikes.
I guess that is a good business just to perform some strikes.
What do you think?
Yes that does sound like quite a different, and worse, model of trade unionism, kind of explains why corrupt thugs like Moyano have risen to the top. Cristina should introduce an NHS, Cuban/British (the only time I can use those examples interchangably!) universal healthcare syste; a good thing to do anyway but also to undercut Moyano. What do you think?
Nov 26th, 2012 - 02:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0@British_Kirchnerist
Nov 26th, 2012 - 08:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina also has a universal health care system, all public hospitals will treat any resident for free even if they are foreigners. Yeah sounds silly but is the way it is. So people from others countries practice what is called here sanitary tourism to Argentina.
And that is one of the reason why the system sometime looks like is to collapse because the hospitals have long queues with people from abroad asking for free treatment and the hospital cannot refuse to treat them.
But unions have the privilege to run its own health care service system among other stuff for their affiliates only someone most are really good. They also have hotels and tourism service for their affiliates, loans, etc.
So Argies workers have a lot of benefits but always complain because they take for granted all benefit stuff thinking that they are available in all countries.
This is a hotel for the workers on the milk stuff
http://www.hotel10deseptiembre.com.ar/hotel.html
This is a hotel for the affiliates of Moyano in Mar del Plata
http://www.hotel10deseptiembre.com.ar/hotel.html
This is a hotels for the employees of electricity supply sector
http://www.hotel10deseptiembre.com.ar/hotel.html
As you can see is not like UK unions ARG unions move a lot of money and has a lot of power.
Also in Argentina exist private health care system so you can have your health coverage from a private company.
The same is for education public and private both are supported by the state the private receive a subsidy from the state.
So I don’t know why some morons are complaining because in Argentina you can choose the system that more you like from complete free to the most expensive.
Cheers mate,
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