Wednesday, November 21st 2012 - 20:01 UTC

Ghana rejects Argentine plea to drop case of impounded frigate ARA Libertad

Ghana rejected on Wednesday Argentina’s plea for Accra City’s Commercial Tribunal to drop the case that kept the ARA Libertad navy training frigate impounded at Tema port since October 2nd.

Commercial tribunal Judge Adjei Frimpong: “It would be bad fate for this tribunal to put this through”

ARA Libertad, a naval training vessel, was detained in Ghana’s eastern port of Tema on October 2 at the request of hedge fund NML Capital Ltd, which claims Argentina owes it over 300 million dollars on bonds in default since 2002.

On Wednesday Ghana Judge Richard Adjei Frimpong, of the Commercial Tribunal in Accra City rejected the proposal put forward by the Argentine government’s legal representatives.

“It would be bad fate for this tribunal to put this through,” Frimpsong said, who explained that the initial part as an “unconditional” defendant was not able to be reversed.

Shortly after the decision was made known, President Cristina Fernández was reported to have held an urgent meeting at the Olivos presidential residence with Foreign Minister Héctor Timerman, in order to discuss the issue.

The Argentine Foreign Ministry on Thursday last week informed the International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea at Hamburg, which then proposed November 29 and 30 as the days to hold the hearings between Argentina and Ghana over the seizure of the ARA Libertad Frigate at Ghana's Tema Port.

The solicitors defending Argentina wanted the Ghana court to declare it was not competent to judge a dispute between the NML Capital investment fund and a foreign sovereign country.
 

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1 briton (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 08:10 pm Report abuse
Four letters,, two words

HA HA.

More later. lol..
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2 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 08:11 pm Report abuse
Oh oh!!!
3 MaxAue (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 08:16 pm Report abuse
:)
4 briton (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 08:22 pm Report abuse
Argentina [CFK]

The solicitors defending Argentina wanted the Ghana court to declare it was not competent to judge a dispute between the NML Capital investment fund and a foreign sovereign country .

Ok so who is competent to judge this?
Argentinean court [perhaps]
Or the ICJ perhaps.
We wonder who CFK thinks IS able to see this item through, ???...

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[Changing the subject]
Any news in this HMS Westminister mystery.
5 Frank (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 08:31 pm Report abuse
'Shortly after the decision was made known, President Cristina Fernández was reported to have held an urgent meeting at the Olivos presidential residence with Foreign Minister Héctor Timerman, in order to discuss the issue.'

Oh to have been a fly on the wall.....
6 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 08:45 pm Report abuse
They must be talking about how they can get out of the Tribunal at the end of the month without looking like bigger assholes
7 LEPRecon (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 08:46 pm Report abuse
Yup, Argentina thought the threat of the Law of the Sea Tribunal would cause Ghana to drop the case, and it has spectacularly FAILED.

Ghana is ruled by laws, and the courts are impartial. This is difficult for the Argentine government to comprehend. Here they cannot threaten or bully Ghana. Ghana knows that Argentina is impotent in this matter.

In the next few days the Libertal will be ordered to move. The Ghanaians won't put up with the Argentine sailors waving weapons about this time, either. I bet they'll have the police or even the Army on standby, and any Argentine sailor that refuses to obey the court order can be arrested for obstruction and contempt of court.

Any and all injuries/deaths will be laid at the feet of the Captain.

As for the Tribunal at the end of the month, Argentina, don't hold your breath on it going your way as you can't threaten or intimidate them either.
8 Anbar (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 09:03 pm Report abuse
“”“As for the Tribunal at the end of the month, Argentina, don't hold your breath on it going your way”“””

I wouldnt be entirely sure on that... it wont go entirely Argentinas way, but dont be surprised at a rule in principal in their favour.
9 stick up your junta (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 09:06 pm Report abuse
chortle chortle
10 briton (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 09:08 pm Report abuse
Sod the boat,
as long as she gets her victory,
thats all she cares about.
11 Gordo1 (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 09:09 pm Report abuse
Where are the trolls?
12 LEPRecon (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 09:10 pm Report abuse
Judge Frimpong to Cristina:

“No one is going to pressurise me through bullying and thugs...” :D
13 Condorito (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 09:21 pm Report abuse
12
lolz
14 ConCapt.Poppy is a Nigger (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 10:43 pm
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15 ProRG_American (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 10:57 pm Report abuse
Judge Frimpong was hoping to have been vacationing in the Cayman Islands to collect his kickback by now. Seeing that this will not happen, is out to cover his own rear end after a quick payout failed.
16 Lou Spoo (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 11:04 pm Report abuse
@15

And the evidence to support your claim is?
17 HansNiesund (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 11:10 pm Report abuse
@15
It's the only possible explanation. Why else would a court find if you sign a contract waiving your immunity, it means you've waived your immunity?
18 ProRG_American (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 11:10 pm Report abuse
It is so obvious.
19 ConCapt.Poppy is a Nigger (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 11:19 pm
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20 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 11:19 pm Report abuse
I am really glad that the argentine government and leadership has no pride whatsoever and is ego. Image is they had pride........the argentine comedy hour, starring asslips kirchner, broadcasting live....internationally would never have been aired.

The show keeps me busting a gut.
21 ProRG_American (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 11:26 pm
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22 KFC de Pollo (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 11:29 pm Report abuse
one day they'll look back at all this and laugh at how naive they were to elect a moron like cristina.
23 HansNiesund (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 11:31 pm Report abuse
@22
I'm not so sure. It will probably turn out Christina's election was all somebody else's fault.
24 Britworker (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 11:32 pm Report abuse
This is just humiliating for the Argentine people, why would you drag this out with the world watching, why would you think you don't have to and shouldn't pay your debts and how could you lose your own navies flagship.

All the underhand tactics used by Kirchner, pointing their weapons at dock workers, has clearly pissed the Ghanains off, I can't see them making this easy for them from now on.
25 redpoll (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 11:33 pm Report abuse
I feel for the captain of the ship and his men. They have been put in an impossible situation by political intrigue. And we know he will get blamed if anything goes wrong rather than Sr Purtescent and his boss who put him in the situation in the first place
26 ElaineB (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 11:47 pm Report abuse
Timerman will be telling CFKC that he will fly off somewhere and it will all be settled. Anything to get away from the screaming harpy.
27 Pirate Love (#) Nov 21st, 2012 - 11:51 pm Report abuse
@21 seen as you have gone off topic, you may also like the surrender of the great argentine crusade to a much smaller force in their own back garden in more modern times of 82,remember? look it up on youtube you will love it, that would be nearly 200 hundred years after your feeble attempt to offend, and guess what we are still there and argentina are not,and we both know that is what really matters, dont we. :)

@14 rascist much??

as for the boat,who cares the longer this goes on the more damaging and incompetent it looks for Princess Crustina, i do hope for a interesting end to this :)
28 Joe Bloggs (#) Nov 22nd, 2012 - 12:52 am Report abuse
So much for the NATO Naval Commander's Hanbook and all that bullshit Captain Birdseye sprouted huh?
29 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 22nd, 2012 - 01:21 am Report abuse
Singer returns Libertad to Argentina, LOL !!

Ha ha, a Geordie co-worker has been in BA for the past 2 weeks, visiting relatives, watching football, and drinking.

Brits not so popular, it seems, but he says he heard some funny stuff.

It seems that some Argentines are clinging to a rumour that Libertad, as a national treasure, will be returned after the current government is out of power, LOL

Delusional LOL LOL
30 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 22nd, 2012 - 02:33 am Report abuse
#27 I seem to be on the trolls hit list. The made an ID with a distortion my my name. Trolls are getting desperate.......very racist too.
31 ElaineB (#) Nov 22nd, 2012 - 03:18 am Report abuse
Ignore it.
32 Teaboy2 (#) Nov 22nd, 2012 - 03:29 am Report abuse
@30 Don't worry i have reported him for having a racist username, to the site team and made a pretty firm suggestions to them too about banning all Ip address of user who are constantly reported for being trolls and those that break the rules!
33 LEPRecon (#) Nov 22nd, 2012 - 06:57 am Report abuse
@15 - ProRG Yank

You've made some very liablous comments, do you have evidence to back up that comment?

Thought not.

Besides, if Judge Frimpong could be bribed, Argentina would've tried to do it by now, wouldn't they?
34 Xect (#) Nov 22nd, 2012 - 08:04 am Report abuse
@30 - Captain Poppy.

I've also reported the user for having a racist screen name and continually posting racist slurs and abuse in the same vain as Teaboy2.
35 ChrisR (#) Nov 22nd, 2012 - 10:03 am Report abuse
@30 - Captain Poppy.

DITTO!
I've also reported the user for having a racist screen name and continually posting racist slurs and abuse in the same vain as Teaboy2.
36 mastershakejb (#) Nov 22nd, 2012 - 10:36 am Report abuse
online.wsj.com/article/AP6619e89ef0894836a9fd96e5bf16c468.html OONTZ
37 LEPRecon (#) Nov 22nd, 2012 - 10:51 am Report abuse
@36 - mastershakejb

I like the bit were the judge stated that he was making the judgement in response to inflammatory remarks made by Argentine officials, who vowed not to pay a cent!

Honestly, the Argentine government needs to learn that speaking quietly and softly has a greater impact that shouting from the rooftops.

In fact, all of Argentina's hysterionics, demands, declarations and outright lies, have just made more people hostile towards them.

They could really learn a lot from the British...

www.theweek.co.uk/uk-news/50169/britain-most-influential-nation-it-wins-soft-power-survey

Britain is now considered the most influential nation in the world, and we didn't need to make a fuss to become so.
38 malen (#) Nov 22nd, 2012 - 10:55 am Report abuse
How many brits interested in Arg news!! Brits loves others disgraces, not to help, but to make them worseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Instintive.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-Dow9JzdWg
New material of Ciro, singer. Héroes de Malvinas. Love it. Pacific guy. Not messed with politics.
39 toooldtodieyoung (#) Nov 22nd, 2012 - 11:12 am Report abuse
“The solicitors defending Argentina wanted the Ghana court to declare it was not competent to judge a dispute between the NML Capital investment fund and a foreign sovereign country”

Nuff said....................LOL.............
40 LEPRecon (#) Nov 22nd, 2012 - 12:46 pm Report abuse
@38 - malen

What are you going to do when the Law of the Sea Tribunal states that the Libertad case is outside of their remit?

How will your incompetent government cope?

What will your government do next, when the ARA Espora is impounded for Argentina not paying its debts?

You Argentines must thrive on humilation to allow such an incompetent and foolish government to continue.
41 Conqueror (#) Nov 22nd, 2012 - 01:10 pm Report abuse
@38 Sounds like he's got a belly ache!
42 GeoffWard2 (#) Nov 22nd, 2012 - 01:39 pm Report abuse
No, LEP #40,
I don't think that Argentinians thrive on humiliation ...

more like they see this as a session at the casino.
You keep losing but there is always a chance of the WIN.
Trouble is, the odds are stacked and the Argentinians can't believe this, so they keep on keeping on.
It's bad tactics to bet against the House ... international law and the rules of persuance of international trade.

Once in this mind-set it seems impossible for them to change,
and that being so, (Rome, Hitler's Germany, the USSR, Mao's China, ...) we wait for their collapse.
I take no delight in this, just a sadness at it's relentless inevitability.
43 Foxtrot Indigo (#) Nov 22nd, 2012 - 02:23 pm Report abuse
@38

Actually this story hasn't been reported on any British news (that I am aware of). I just checked a couple of websites and I couldn't find any mention of the ARA Libertad. So it is only those who follow Mercopress who know about the story. I guess Ghana news is reporting it but I don't know what any of their newspapers are called (also I can't be bothered to look for them)
44 Idlehands (#) Nov 22nd, 2012 - 03:22 pm Report abuse
Nobody I know knew anything about the loss of the Libertad - not even the nutter in my team that's married to an Argentine and a rabid malvinista and general conspiracy nut.

He's actually in Argentina at this very minute. I wonder how impressed he's been with all the strikes and money issues.

Will they try to fleece him of every last dollar at customs when he tries to leave? I hope so.
45 ChrisR (#) Nov 22nd, 2012 - 03:30 pm Report abuse
I expect that Ghanaian Judge Richard Adjei Frimpong is going to be the rider of the green horse as far as Argentina is concerned.

:o)
46 malen (#) Nov 22nd, 2012 - 04:09 pm Report abuse
what do you think of the good music I post Leprrrrrr?
Have you hear it?
Do you like it???
47 Foxtrot Indigo (#) Nov 22nd, 2012 - 04:45 pm Report abuse
@45

Green horse?
48 ChrisR (#) Nov 22nd, 2012 - 07:02 pm Report abuse
@47
http://www.1st-art-gallery.com/Viktor-Vasnetsov/The-Four-Horsemen-Of-The-Apocalypse,-1887.html

The fourth horse should be pale green, the colour of a corpse.

On the horse rides DEATH AND HADES FOLLOWS HIM.

From a lapsed Christian, now an atheist. :o)
49 toooldtodieyoung (#) Nov 22nd, 2012 - 08:38 pm Report abuse
48 ChrisR

As far as I can remember,

Death rode a horse of purest white and it's name was Binky.

From Terry Pratchett and the Discworld novels. :o)
50 wangito (#) Nov 22nd, 2012 - 09:05 pm Report abuse
It amazes me that this Mercosur news page is almost exclusivly dedicated to the stupidities of the CFK's.
Malvinas....Falkland...Libertad...ARG inflation...dollar clamp...courts...corruption...42% salarry increase etc.
She was right. ARGees, you have to fear CFK!, forget God.
51 ChrisR (#) Nov 22nd, 2012 - 09:19 pm Report abuse
49 toooldtodieyoung

Brilliant, it is at least as good as the version in Revelations - written by some medieval desert dweller, hell bent on smiting everybody who blasphemed God.

It is so much easier when you are an atheist.
52 Troy Tempest (#) Nov 23rd, 2012 - 01:22 am Report abuse
@43

Try Ghana Web
53 briton (#) Nov 23rd, 2012 - 12:08 pm Report abuse
We think most of us have reported this fool,
And will keep doing it,
So just ignore him/her/them/
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
We hear today that Argentina has lost AGAIN against the US Court,
Pay up or else.
Why is it so hard to mend something so simple?
Pay ya dues and move forwards,
Unless your name is CFK ,
Then refuse to pay and live in the past…
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54 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 23rd, 2012 - 03:28 pm Report abuse
That is the center of the problem with peronist, they live in the past, like a teenager look for a quick fix, do not acceopt responsible, and shift blame, and never plan long term
55 ChrisR (#) Nov 23rd, 2012 - 08:52 pm Report abuse
One of the amusing things we did today in Espanol was the political scene in Uruguay which then descended to The Dark Country.

Apparently, the idiot in the AG government who admitted he 'knew nothing of the technicalities of the Judge Griesa's decision but he supported the Peronists position 100%' is typical of the breed.

In Uruguay if someone does not know the facts about the latest government news they say ‘I know nothing, but I am a peronist’.

And the Malvanistas think Uruguay supports them! Ha, ha, ha.
56 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 23rd, 2012 - 09:31 pm Report abuse
blind party politics will always kill a nation
57 briton (#) Nov 23rd, 2012 - 10:08 pm Report abuse
They do say,
You can get dogs to jump through hoops,
Cats through walls, squirrels on a high wire,

Elephants on two feet , bears on a glassier mint ,
But you cant get CFK to pay her bills,lolol.
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58 redpoll (#) Nov 23rd, 2012 - 10:32 pm Report abuse
Come off it Chris. There is no Peronist party in Uruguay
59 ChrisR (#) Nov 24th, 2012 - 12:19 am Report abuse
58 redpoll

Yes, that is true, that is why it is a joke! They know nothing (they have not checked, etc) but they are peronists (who also know nothing)!
60 redpoll (#) Nov 24th, 2012 - 01:05 am Report abuse
I think you will find that Uruguayans are more intelligent than you paint them. I wouldnt vote for the Frente and they have hit me in the pocket as a producer pretty hard. But we are a functioning democracy and we are NOT argentines. You were not here during the dictatorship, a dark period in our history. I was, though I didnt suffer as much as some others did. I didnt agree with Blair, Brown and even Cameron and Cleggers but its up to the voters who live in UK to remove them at thier voting discretion, not me sniping for the sidelines. Far be it from me to campare you with Manglewurzel (aka Guzz), a supposed Uruguayan skulking away in Scandanavia. If he was a patriot of whatever political persuasion he should be here helping to shape Uruguays future. We have got a lot of faults in our system here but its the best one we have under a democracy so dont knock it
61 British_Kirchnerist (#) Nov 24th, 2012 - 01:45 am Report abuse
Listen up Ghana: when you're in a hole, stop digging!
62 redpoll (#) Nov 24th, 2012 - 02:27 am Report abuse
So who is in the hole?
63 British_Kirchnerist (#) Nov 24th, 2012 - 09:49 am Report abuse
Ghana
64 ChrisR (#) Nov 24th, 2012 - 10:57 am Report abuse
60 redpoll

I am astounded by your post.

When have I EVER said a thing about the people of Uruguay and my criticisms of the government have always been constructive and with the people in mind.

What is the matter with you, can’t you see a joke (made by my Uruguayan Spanish Teacher)?

Please tell me where YOU come from as I have never met a Uruguayan with your attitude.
65 briton (#) Nov 24th, 2012 - 07:34 pm Report abuse
British_Kirchnerist (
Listen up Ghana: when you're in a hole, stop digging!

[ but Ghana’s not in a hole, ,CFK is ]

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66 reality check (#) Nov 25th, 2012 - 02:26 am Report abuse
Fuck I am bored. God knows how the crew is feeling?
67 redpoll (#) Nov 25th, 2012 - 02:35 pm Report abuse
Sorry Chris I am not going to tell you where I live or ask where you do either. The trolls on this site compile lists of personal details for future reference and action. So you will have to keep guessing mi amigo
68 ChrisR (#) Nov 25th, 2012 - 04:57 pm Report abuse
67 redpoll

I was asking which country you live in, everyone knows I am a Brit now living in Uruguay by choice.

Are you in Argentina? :o)
69 redpoll (#) Nov 25th, 2012 - 07:38 pm Report abuse
No live in the interior of ROU Chris
70 briton (#) Nov 25th, 2012 - 07:40 pm Report abuse
66
we wonder if they still love their leader after all this.
71 andy65 (#) Nov 28th, 2012 - 01:54 am Report abuse
You Argentines should pray that old botox lips joins her dead husband SOON
72 Captain Poppy (#) Nov 28th, 2012 - 11:41 am Report abuse
They can always help her achieve that goal

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