Ghana rejected on Wednesday Argentina’s plea for Accra City’s Commercial Tribunal to drop the case that kept the ARA Libertad navy training frigate impounded at Tema port since October 2nd. Read full article
The solicitors defending Argentina wanted the Ghana court to declare it was not competent to judge a dispute between the NML Capital investment fund and a foreign sovereign country .
Ok so who is competent to judge this?
Argentinean court [perhaps]
Or the ICJ perhaps.
We wonder who CFK thinks IS able to see this item through, ???...
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[Changing the subject]
Any news in this HMS Westminister mystery.
'Shortly after the decision was made known, President Cristina Fernández was reported to have held an urgent meeting at the Olivos presidential residence with Foreign Minister Héctor Timerman, in order to discuss the issue.'
Yup, Argentina thought the threat of the Law of the Sea Tribunal would cause Ghana to drop the case, and it has spectacularly FAILED.
Ghana is ruled by laws, and the courts are impartial. This is difficult for the Argentine government to comprehend. Here they cannot threaten or bully Ghana. Ghana knows that Argentina is impotent in this matter.
In the next few days the Libertal will be ordered to move. The Ghanaians won't put up with the Argentine sailors waving weapons about this time, either. I bet they'll have the police or even the Army on standby, and any Argentine sailor that refuses to obey the court order can be arrested for obstruction and contempt of court.
Any and all injuries/deaths will be laid at the feet of the Captain.
As for the Tribunal at the end of the month, Argentina, don't hold your breath on it going your way as you can't threaten or intimidate them either.
Judge Frimpong was hoping to have been vacationing in the Cayman Islands to collect his kickback by now. Seeing that this will not happen, is out to cover his own rear end after a quick payout failed.
@15
It's the only possible explanation. Why else would a court find if you sign a contract waiving your immunity, it means you've waived your immunity?
I am really glad that the argentine government and leadership has no pride whatsoever and is ego. Image is they had pride........the argentine comedy hour, starring asslips kirchner, broadcasting live....internationally would never have been aired.
This is just humiliating for the Argentine people, why would you drag this out with the world watching, why would you think you don't have to and shouldn't pay your debts and how could you lose your own navies flagship.
All the underhand tactics used by Kirchner, pointing their weapons at dock workers, has clearly pissed the Ghanains off, I can't see them making this easy for them from now on.
I feel for the captain of the ship and his men. They have been put in an impossible situation by political intrigue. And we know he will get blamed if anything goes wrong rather than Sr Purtescent and his boss who put him in the situation in the first place
@21 seen as you have gone off topic, you may also like the surrender of the great argentine crusade to a much smaller force in their own back garden in more modern times of 82,remember? look it up on youtube you will love it, that would be nearly 200 hundred years after your feeble attempt to offend, and guess what we are still there and argentina are not,and we both know that is what really matters, dont we. :)
@14 rascist much??
as for the boat,who cares the longer this goes on the more damaging and incompetent it looks for Princess Crustina, i do hope for a interesting end to this :)
Ha ha, a Geordie co-worker has been in BA for the past 2 weeks, visiting relatives, watching football, and drinking.
Brits not so popular, it seems, but he says he heard some funny stuff.
It seems that some Argentines are clinging to a rumour that Libertad, as a national treasure, will be returned after the current government is out of power, LOL
@30 Don't worry i have reported him for having a racist username, to the site team and made a pretty firm suggestions to them too about banning all Ip address of user who are constantly reported for being trolls and those that break the rules!
I like the bit were the judge stated that he was making the judgement in response to inflammatory remarks made by Argentine officials, who vowed not to pay a cent!
Honestly, the Argentine government needs to learn that speaking quietly and softly has a greater impact that shouting from the rooftops.
In fact, all of Argentina's hysterionics, demands, declarations and outright lies, have just made more people hostile towards them.
How many brits interested in Arg news!! Brits loves others disgraces, not to help, but to make them worseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Instintive.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-Dow9JzdWg
New material of Ciro, singer. Héroes de Malvinas. Love it. Pacific guy. Not messed with politics.
The solicitors defending Argentina wanted the Ghana court to declare it was not competent to judge a dispute between the NML Capital investment fund and a foreign sovereign country
No, LEP #40,
I don't think that Argentinians thrive on humiliation ...
more like they see this as a session at the casino.
You keep losing but there is always a chance of the WIN.
Trouble is, the odds are stacked and the Argentinians can't believe this, so they keep on keeping on.
It's bad tactics to bet against the House ... international law and the rules of persuance of international trade.
Once in this mind-set it seems impossible for them to change,
and that being so, (Rome, Hitler's Germany, the USSR, Mao's China, ...) we wait for their collapse.
I take no delight in this, just a sadness at it's relentless inevitability.
Actually this story hasn't been reported on any British news (that I am aware of). I just checked a couple of websites and I couldn't find any mention of the ARA Libertad. So it is only those who follow Mercopress who know about the story. I guess Ghana news is reporting it but I don't know what any of their newspapers are called (also I can't be bothered to look for them)
Nobody I know knew anything about the loss of the Libertad - not even the nutter in my team that's married to an Argentine and a rabid malvinista and general conspiracy nut.
He's actually in Argentina at this very minute. I wonder how impressed he's been with all the strikes and money issues.
Will they try to fleece him of every last dollar at customs when he tries to leave? I hope so.
It amazes me that this Mercosur news page is almost exclusivly dedicated to the stupidities of the CFK's.
Malvinas....Falkland...Libertad...ARG inflation...dollar clamp...courts...corruption...42% salarry increase etc.
She was right. ARGees, you have to fear CFK!, forget God.
Brilliant, it is at least as good as the version in Revelations - written by some medieval desert dweller, hell bent on smiting everybody who blasphemed God.
We think most of us have reported this fool,
And will keep doing it,
So just ignore him/her/them/
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We hear today that Argentina has lost AGAIN against the US Court,
Pay up or else.
Why is it so hard to mend something so simple?
Pay ya dues and move forwards,
Unless your name is CFK ,
Then refuse to pay and live in the past…
.
That is the center of the problem with peronist, they live in the past, like a teenager look for a quick fix, do not acceopt responsible, and shift blame, and never plan long term
One of the amusing things we did today in Espanol was the political scene in Uruguay which then descended to The Dark Country.
Apparently, the idiot in the AG government who admitted he 'knew nothing of the technicalities of the Judge Griesa's decision but he supported the Peronists position 100%' is typical of the breed.
In Uruguay if someone does not know the facts about the latest government news they say ‘I know nothing, but I am a peronist’.
And the Malvanistas think Uruguay supports them! Ha, ha, ha.
I think you will find that Uruguayans are more intelligent than you paint them. I wouldnt vote for the Frente and they have hit me in the pocket as a producer pretty hard. But we are a functioning democracy and we are NOT argentines. You were not here during the dictatorship, a dark period in our history. I was, though I didnt suffer as much as some others did. I didnt agree with Blair, Brown and even Cameron and Cleggers but its up to the voters who live in UK to remove them at thier voting discretion, not me sniping for the sidelines. Far be it from me to campare you with Manglewurzel (aka Guzz), a supposed Uruguayan skulking away in Scandanavia. If he was a patriot of whatever political persuasion he should be here helping to shape Uruguays future. We have got a lot of faults in our system here but its the best one we have under a democracy so dont knock it
When have I EVER said a thing about the people of Uruguay and my criticisms of the government have always been constructive and with the people in mind.
What is the matter with you, can’t you see a joke (made by my Uruguayan Spanish Teacher)?
Please tell me where YOU come from as I have never met a Uruguayan with your attitude.
Sorry Chris I am not going to tell you where I live or ask where you do either. The trolls on this site compile lists of personal details for future reference and action. So you will have to keep guessing mi amigo
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Nov 21st, 2012 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0HA HA.
More later. lol..
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Oh oh!!!
Nov 21st, 2012 - 08:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0:)
Nov 21st, 2012 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina [CFK]
Nov 21st, 2012 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The solicitors defending Argentina wanted the Ghana court to declare it was not competent to judge a dispute between the NML Capital investment fund and a foreign sovereign country .
Ok so who is competent to judge this?
Argentinean court [perhaps]
Or the ICJ perhaps.
We wonder who CFK thinks IS able to see this item through, ???...
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[Changing the subject]
Any news in this HMS Westminister mystery.
'Shortly after the decision was made known, President Cristina Fernández was reported to have held an urgent meeting at the Olivos presidential residence with Foreign Minister Héctor Timerman, in order to discuss the issue.'
Nov 21st, 2012 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh to have been a fly on the wall.....
They must be talking about how they can get out of the Tribunal at the end of the month without looking like bigger assholes
Nov 21st, 2012 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yup, Argentina thought the threat of the Law of the Sea Tribunal would cause Ghana to drop the case, and it has spectacularly FAILED.
Nov 21st, 2012 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ghana is ruled by laws, and the courts are impartial. This is difficult for the Argentine government to comprehend. Here they cannot threaten or bully Ghana. Ghana knows that Argentina is impotent in this matter.
In the next few days the Libertal will be ordered to move. The Ghanaians won't put up with the Argentine sailors waving weapons about this time, either. I bet they'll have the police or even the Army on standby, and any Argentine sailor that refuses to obey the court order can be arrested for obstruction and contempt of court.
Any and all injuries/deaths will be laid at the feet of the Captain.
As for the Tribunal at the end of the month, Argentina, don't hold your breath on it going your way as you can't threaten or intimidate them either.
As for the Tribunal at the end of the month, Argentina, don't hold your breath on it going your way”
Nov 21st, 2012 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wouldnt be entirely sure on that... it wont go entirely Argentinas way, but dont be surprised at a rule in principal in their favour.
chortle chortle
Nov 21st, 2012 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sod the boat,
Nov 21st, 2012 - 09:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0as long as she gets her victory,
thats all she cares about.
Where are the trolls?
Nov 21st, 2012 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Judge Frimpong to Cristina:
Nov 21st, 2012 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No one is going to pressurise me through bullying and thugs... :D
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Nov 21st, 2012 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lolz
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Nov 21st, 2012 - 10:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Judge Frimpong was hoping to have been vacationing in the Cayman Islands to collect his kickback by now. Seeing that this will not happen, is out to cover his own rear end after a quick payout failed.
Nov 21st, 2012 - 10:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@15
Nov 21st, 2012 - 11:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And the evidence to support your claim is?
@15
Nov 21st, 2012 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's the only possible explanation. Why else would a court find if you sign a contract waiving your immunity, it means you've waived your immunity?
It is so obvious.
Nov 21st, 2012 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Comment removed by the editor.
Nov 21st, 2012 - 11:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am really glad that the argentine government and leadership has no pride whatsoever and is ego. Image is they had pride........the argentine comedy hour, starring asslips kirchner, broadcasting live....internationally would never have been aired.
Nov 21st, 2012 - 11:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The show keeps me busting a gut.
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Nov 21st, 2012 - 11:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0one day they'll look back at all this and laugh at how naive they were to elect a moron like cristina.
Nov 21st, 2012 - 11:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@22
Nov 21st, 2012 - 11:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm not so sure. It will probably turn out Christina's election was all somebody else's fault.
This is just humiliating for the Argentine people, why would you drag this out with the world watching, why would you think you don't have to and shouldn't pay your debts and how could you lose your own navies flagship.
Nov 21st, 2012 - 11:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All the underhand tactics used by Kirchner, pointing their weapons at dock workers, has clearly pissed the Ghanains off, I can't see them making this easy for them from now on.
I feel for the captain of the ship and his men. They have been put in an impossible situation by political intrigue. And we know he will get blamed if anything goes wrong rather than Sr Purtescent and his boss who put him in the situation in the first place
Nov 21st, 2012 - 11:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Timerman will be telling CFKC that he will fly off somewhere and it will all be settled. Anything to get away from the screaming harpy.
Nov 21st, 2012 - 11:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@21 seen as you have gone off topic, you may also like the surrender of the great argentine crusade to a much smaller force in their own back garden in more modern times of 82,remember? look it up on youtube you will love it, that would be nearly 200 hundred years after your feeble attempt to offend, and guess what we are still there and argentina are not,and we both know that is what really matters, dont we. :)
Nov 21st, 2012 - 11:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@14 rascist much??
as for the boat,who cares the longer this goes on the more damaging and incompetent it looks for Princess Crustina, i do hope for a interesting end to this :)
So much for the NATO Naval Commander's Hanbook and all that bullshit Captain Birdseye sprouted huh?
Nov 22nd, 2012 - 12:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Singer returns Libertad to Argentina, LOL !!
Nov 22nd, 2012 - 01:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ha ha, a Geordie co-worker has been in BA for the past 2 weeks, visiting relatives, watching football, and drinking.
Brits not so popular, it seems, but he says he heard some funny stuff.
It seems that some Argentines are clinging to a rumour that Libertad, as a national treasure, will be returned after the current government is out of power, LOL
Delusional LOL LOL
#27 I seem to be on the trolls hit list. The made an ID with a distortion my my name. Trolls are getting desperate.......very racist too.
Nov 22nd, 2012 - 02:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ignore it.
Nov 22nd, 2012 - 03:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0@30 Don't worry i have reported him for having a racist username, to the site team and made a pretty firm suggestions to them too about banning all Ip address of user who are constantly reported for being trolls and those that break the rules!
Nov 22nd, 2012 - 03:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0@15 - ProRG Yank
Nov 22nd, 2012 - 06:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0You've made some very liablous comments, do you have evidence to back up that comment?
Thought not.
Besides, if Judge Frimpong could be bribed, Argentina would've tried to do it by now, wouldn't they?
@30 - Captain Poppy.
Nov 22nd, 2012 - 08:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0I've also reported the user for having a racist screen name and continually posting racist slurs and abuse in the same vain as Teaboy2.
@30 - Captain Poppy.
Nov 22nd, 2012 - 10:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0DITTO!
I've also reported the user for having a racist screen name and continually posting racist slurs and abuse in the same vain as Teaboy2.
http://online.wsj.com/article/AP6619e89ef0894836a9fd96e5bf16c468.html OONTZ
Nov 22nd, 2012 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0@36 - mastershakejb
Nov 22nd, 2012 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0I like the bit were the judge stated that he was making the judgement in response to inflammatory remarks made by Argentine officials, who vowed not to pay a cent!
Honestly, the Argentine government needs to learn that speaking quietly and softly has a greater impact that shouting from the rooftops.
In fact, all of Argentina's hysterionics, demands, declarations and outright lies, have just made more people hostile towards them.
They could really learn a lot from the British...
http://www.theweek.co.uk/uk-news/50169/britain-most-influential-nation-it-wins-soft-power-survey
Britain is now considered the most influential nation in the world, and we didn't need to make a fuss to become so.
How many brits interested in Arg news!! Brits loves others disgraces, not to help, but to make them worseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Instintive.
Nov 22nd, 2012 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-Dow9JzdWg
New material of Ciro, singer. Héroes de Malvinas. Love it. Pacific guy. Not messed with politics.
The solicitors defending Argentina wanted the Ghana court to declare it was not competent to judge a dispute between the NML Capital investment fund and a foreign sovereign country
Nov 22nd, 2012 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nuff said....................LOL.............
@38 - malen
Nov 22nd, 2012 - 12:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What are you going to do when the Law of the Sea Tribunal states that the Libertad case is outside of their remit?
How will your incompetent government cope?
What will your government do next, when the ARA Espora is impounded for Argentina not paying its debts?
You Argentines must thrive on humilation to allow such an incompetent and foolish government to continue.
@38 Sounds like he's got a belly ache!
Nov 22nd, 2012 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No, LEP #40,
Nov 22nd, 2012 - 01:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't think that Argentinians thrive on humiliation ...
more like they see this as a session at the casino.
You keep losing but there is always a chance of the WIN.
Trouble is, the odds are stacked and the Argentinians can't believe this, so they keep on keeping on.
It's bad tactics to bet against the House ... international law and the rules of persuance of international trade.
Once in this mind-set it seems impossible for them to change,
and that being so, (Rome, Hitler's Germany, the USSR, Mao's China, ...) we wait for their collapse.
I take no delight in this, just a sadness at it's relentless inevitability.
@38
Nov 22nd, 2012 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Actually this story hasn't been reported on any British news (that I am aware of). I just checked a couple of websites and I couldn't find any mention of the ARA Libertad. So it is only those who follow Mercopress who know about the story. I guess Ghana news is reporting it but I don't know what any of their newspapers are called (also I can't be bothered to look for them)
Nobody I know knew anything about the loss of the Libertad - not even the nutter in my team that's married to an Argentine and a rabid malvinista and general conspiracy nut.
Nov 22nd, 2012 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He's actually in Argentina at this very minute. I wonder how impressed he's been with all the strikes and money issues.
Will they try to fleece him of every last dollar at customs when he tries to leave? I hope so.
I expect that Ghanaian Judge Richard Adjei Frimpong is going to be the rider of the green horse as far as Argentina is concerned.
Nov 22nd, 2012 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0:o)
what do you think of the good music I post Leprrrrrr?
Nov 22nd, 2012 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Have you hear it?
Do you like it???
@45
Nov 22nd, 2012 - 04:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Green horse?
@47
Nov 22nd, 2012 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.1st-art-gallery.com/Viktor-Vasnetsov/The-Four-Horsemen-Of-The-Apocalypse,-1887.html
The fourth horse should be pale green, the colour of a corpse.
On the horse rides DEATH AND HADES FOLLOWS HIM.
From a lapsed Christian, now an atheist. :o)
48 ChrisR
Nov 22nd, 2012 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As far as I can remember,
Death rode a horse of purest white and it's name was Binky.
From Terry Pratchett and the Discworld novels. :o)
It amazes me that this Mercosur news page is almost exclusivly dedicated to the stupidities of the CFK's.
Nov 22nd, 2012 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Malvinas....Falkland...Libertad...ARG inflation...dollar clamp...courts...corruption...42% salarry increase etc.
She was right. ARGees, you have to fear CFK!, forget God.
49 toooldtodieyoung
Nov 22nd, 2012 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brilliant, it is at least as good as the version in Revelations - written by some medieval desert dweller, hell bent on smiting everybody who blasphemed God.
It is so much easier when you are an atheist.
@43
Nov 23rd, 2012 - 01:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Try Ghana Web
We think most of us have reported this fool,
Nov 23rd, 2012 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And will keep doing it,
So just ignore him/her/them/
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We hear today that Argentina has lost AGAIN against the US Court,
Pay up or else.
Why is it so hard to mend something so simple?
Pay ya dues and move forwards,
Unless your name is CFK ,
Then refuse to pay and live in the past…
.
That is the center of the problem with peronist, they live in the past, like a teenager look for a quick fix, do not acceopt responsible, and shift blame, and never plan long term
Nov 23rd, 2012 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One of the amusing things we did today in Espanol was the political scene in Uruguay which then descended to The Dark Country.
Nov 23rd, 2012 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apparently, the idiot in the AG government who admitted he 'knew nothing of the technicalities of the Judge Griesa's decision but he supported the Peronists position 100%' is typical of the breed.
In Uruguay if someone does not know the facts about the latest government news they say ‘I know nothing, but I am a peronist’.
And the Malvanistas think Uruguay supports them! Ha, ha, ha.
blind party politics will always kill a nation
Nov 23rd, 2012 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They do say,
Nov 23rd, 2012 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You can get dogs to jump through hoops,
Cats through walls, squirrels on a high wire,
Elephants on two feet , bears on a glassier mint ,
But you cant get CFK to pay her bills,lolol.
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Come off it Chris. There is no Peronist party in Uruguay
Nov 23rd, 2012 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 058 redpoll
Nov 24th, 2012 - 12:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, that is true, that is why it is a joke! They know nothing (they have not checked, etc) but they are peronists (who also know nothing)!
I think you will find that Uruguayans are more intelligent than you paint them. I wouldnt vote for the Frente and they have hit me in the pocket as a producer pretty hard. But we are a functioning democracy and we are NOT argentines. You were not here during the dictatorship, a dark period in our history. I was, though I didnt suffer as much as some others did. I didnt agree with Blair, Brown and even Cameron and Cleggers but its up to the voters who live in UK to remove them at thier voting discretion, not me sniping for the sidelines. Far be it from me to campare you with Manglewurzel (aka Guzz), a supposed Uruguayan skulking away in Scandanavia. If he was a patriot of whatever political persuasion he should be here helping to shape Uruguays future. We have got a lot of faults in our system here but its the best one we have under a democracy so dont knock it
Nov 24th, 2012 - 01:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Listen up Ghana: when you're in a hole, stop digging!
Nov 24th, 2012 - 01:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0So who is in the hole?
Nov 24th, 2012 - 02:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ghana
Nov 24th, 2012 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 060 redpoll
Nov 24th, 2012 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0I am astounded by your post.
When have I EVER said a thing about the people of Uruguay and my criticisms of the government have always been constructive and with the people in mind.
What is the matter with you, can’t you see a joke (made by my Uruguayan Spanish Teacher)?
Please tell me where YOU come from as I have never met a Uruguayan with your attitude.
British_Kirchnerist (
Nov 24th, 2012 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Listen up Ghana: when you're in a hole, stop digging!
[ but Ghana’s not in a hole, ,CFK is ]
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Fuck I am bored. God knows how the crew is feeling?
Nov 25th, 2012 - 02:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry Chris I am not going to tell you where I live or ask where you do either. The trolls on this site compile lists of personal details for future reference and action. So you will have to keep guessing mi amigo
Nov 25th, 2012 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 067 redpoll
Nov 25th, 2012 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I was asking which country you live in, everyone knows I am a Brit now living in Uruguay by choice.
Are you in Argentina? :o)
No live in the interior of ROU Chris
Nov 25th, 2012 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 066
Nov 25th, 2012 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0we wonder if they still love their leader after all this.
You Argentines should pray that old botox lips joins her dead husband SOON
Nov 28th, 2012 - 01:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0They can always help her achieve that goal
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