Argentina files complaints at WTO against US and EU for bans on beef and bio-diesel
Argentina has filed complaints with the World Trade Organization against the United States over limits on beef and lemon shipments, and against the European Union and Spain for curbs on bio-diesel, Foreign Minister Hector Timerman announced.
“We're open to keep talking while this complaint is handled by the World Trade Organization,” Timerman told a news conference, adding that the complaints were filed on Wednesday.
In an official release Argentina argues that the complaints were filed after trying unsuccessfully to bilaterally solve the protectionist measures imposed by the US and the EU and with over a decade of implementation.
In the case of the US which has banned Argentine fresh, frozen and chilled beef, these products are currently exported to countries with very high sanitary standards argued Timerman. Furthermore the US does not recognize Patagonia as a zone free of foot and mouth disease without vaccination despite the fact the status dates back to 2003 and was extended by the Animal Health Organization, OIE, whose regulations have global acknowledgement and are recognized by the World Trade Organization.
Argentina last year exported 731 million dollars of boneless beef, fresh and chilled and so far this year the volume is equivalent to almost 500 million dollars, points out the release.
Likewise with fresh lemons from the northeast of Argentina the ban has been in place for eleven years despite the fact that Argentina exported 172 million dollars last year and so far this year 190 million dollars to 61 different countries.
Regarding the EU, Argentina has questioned a specific Spanish government order which bans the use of Argentine bio-diesel as bio-fuel for transport. Last year Argentine bio-diesel exports to the EU totalled 1.9 billion dollars and 1.2bn until last August. Of total sales to the EU, 1.1bn were to Spain or 53% of the country’s total exports of this product.
It is more than evident that the Spanish government order seriously affects Argentina’s production of renewable fuel, of which the country has become one of the world’s leaders, underlines the foreign ministry release.
Finally these complaints are in addition to other claims lodged by Argentina before the WTO against several developed countries because of “the proliferation of sanitary, phytosanitary and technical instructions with no scientific support which restrict arbitrarily and unfairly the exports from developing and less developed countries perpetuating a system of misbalanced multilateral trade which is again evidence of the double standards existent for developed and developing countries in international trade”.
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What a bunch of buffoons.
Wait, aren't these organizations supposed to be impartial?
Argentina standing up to the northern cheaters, because no one else has the balls to do it.
cant say i would, not that i cant swim, but if you help out they would try drag you down too, leave it to mercosur to help out.
Don't trade with “the northern cheaters” and you won't have to worry about your balls.
While thier outbreak of the disease was going on their Ministry vets were trying to contain an outbreak of FMD which of course didnt exist from a govt point of view, by ring vaccination. They were not successful and so the plague bacillus which of course they said they didnt have was exported to Uruguay with the result that all our hard won markets were lost, ships of meat being turned round in mid voyage and the meat thrown overboard as a feast for the sharks. That damn nearly sent our country broke.I dont think it was a malicious act against Uruguay but the doubt lingers. So nobody trusts the figures or sanitary status that Argentina puts out. Uruguayan statistics ARE trusted and thats why we get a better price for our beef on international markets than our “cousins” on the other side of the Rio de la Plata
Why should Spain buy bio diesel from Argentina when Argentina robs Spains pensioners?
What goes around comes around mr timmerman!
The Argentinians have proven less than trustworthy - best to err on the side of caution! Not fair?
Since when did Argentina care???
Uruguay is battling Dengue Fever along their border with Argentina, but CFK's government will not even acknowledge there is an outbreak, let alone, try to contain it!
Dengue fever along the border with Uruguay... you are quite frankly delirious, or an opium smoker, or both. In an era of internet and in a country where whether you accept it or not 78% of people have internet (highest in Latin America), and 98% have cable or satelite (2nd highest in the Americas), and where there is still an opposition... how do you explain not a word about this “dengue” endemic in Entre Rios leaking to the outside world?
I mean, do you think, or have a brain? We have terrible pictures leaking out of Syria on a DAILY basis, where they have no internet, no media but state controlled channel, the people are being massacred, and a completely tolalitarian regime...
...yet not one report of this dengue crisis makes it out of that totalitarian hermit state called Entre Rios?
Like I said, you must have lose units within your helmet.
@3 Tobias
I though you wanted complete isolation for Argentina? Crying to international bodies is interacting with the world and not isolationist at all.
As for the WTO being impartial, they are. But Argentina has more trade disputes outstanding against you than any other outcry in history. This one should be added to the queue, and when all those other disputes are settled, the WTO may eventually get around to looking at it.
Government denial again??
You couldn't make this up.......... KFC / The Harpy mouthing off about how Argentina shouldn't be a member of these organisations but then who do they go running too????
You can make this up....... Here is a government that doesn't listen to itself let alone its people....LOL!!!
For instance. Argentina trusts that the UN will give fair hearing to various Argentine claims but they don't trust the UN one iota. All at the same time.
If this was general public opinion you could understand it but it is in fact government policy and they think they are being clever.
Good points. They're a bit like the regime in the book '1984', where black is white, 2+2=5, wrong is right, war is peace etc...
They are trying to brainwash the people of Argentina into not thinking for themselves.
Already they are trying to stifle the freedom of the press. It won't be long before speaking out against the regime is illegal, and a short journey from there to accusing people of 'thought' crimes, and disappearing them off the streets, just like the bad old days of the Junta.
Crazy innit
Wonder if the left hand knows what the right hand is doing, or alternately, who has whose head shoved up whose ass!
Could not make this up!
It is time to stop this silly game to ask high standards to developing countries when at home most of measures in some countries are not met.
US, UK Canada, etc. are the champion of the hypocrisy. Inspection in Argentina on meat processor plants companies coming from US, EU, etc. require that plants have to have more sanitary measures than a hospital. Clothing has to be white, without pockets, and all sort of accessories, etc. tables and instruments used in contact with the meat or animals has to be of inox 304 and not coloured dark instruments are allowed.
Processing meat places has to be all white tailed, corners of walls rounded in inox 304, etc, etc, etc.
But they allow the use of the US made Jarvis and other manufactures Cash Knocker in Argentina and in US I saw pictures or workers in US meat factories using jeans, blue clothing, boots blacks and other stuff that will turn down any license of any meat exporter even in Africa.
Now see the colour of a cash knocker used in Canada, US and UK
www.jarviscanada.com/brochure/CASHMAGNUMKNOCKER.pdf
Are black, red and green...
Is not amazing?
Fair trade where?
If you are as clever as you claim why do you persist with this nonsense about dengue fever?
I have already explained the real problem: your ‘government’ doesn’t give a crap about their people in the north and have not sprayed the danger areas in time to prevent the clouding by the mosquitoes that carry the parasites having acquired it by bitting the dogs that also carry it.
Given the diatribe here you have convinced me that you really have lost what little intellect you displayed on here 12 – 18 months ago.
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(and default, again)
In UK since 2008 there are some bacteria(s) that eat human flesh and what UK got have done? Nothing since then.
But UK politicians spend billions of dollars in Carriers that don’t have and planes that don’t fly.
Any corruption in the MoD perhaps?
“Flesh-eating superbug killed father in just four hours as coroner warns of 'new horror'”
“The disease, which is becoming more common, is an infection which sweeps through the body, internally and externally, so quickly that it can actually be seen spreading.”
Idiot...
Go on try and persuade us that not one person in an Argentinian hospital ever contracted NECROTIZING FASCIITIS. I'm sure we will believe you.
“This morning the British Ambassador in Berlin handed the German Government a final Note stating that, unless we heard from them by 11 o'clock that they were prepared at once to withdraw their troops from Poland, a state of war would exist between us.
I have to tell you now that no such undertaking has been received, and that consequently this country is at war with Germany.”
Just thought you should all know.....
Anyway Danny, care to comment on the story (this one, not one from a coupe of years ago that is totally unrelated)?
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2395097/
FIFTH victim has emergency surgery as flesh-eating bacteria strikes again
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2153739/FIFTH-victim-emergency-surgery-flesh-eating-bacteria-strikes-again.html
PUBLISHED: 16:21 GMT, 2 June 2012 | UPDATED: 19:09 GMT, 2 June 2012
Now what are you gonna say? that is from june?
UK a falling country and the morons don't wanna get it
Nobody wants the diseased meat, fruit or vegetables here in the USA.
Complain all you want you'll lose again and spectacularly
Lights out in BA, again
It's hot and rainy no planting today means no SOY tomorrow
I will laugh and laugh if you have to buy USA wheat next year
laugh and laugh
btw we don't take pesos
Maybe you should read the article and then try to find out from a map where South Carolina actually is.
Arg gov't has absolutely no idea what happens in the outer Provinces, the medical services are basically non-existent and there is no reporting. You would be one unlucky person to come down with something while traveling in Misiones or Corrientes, very unlucky and probably dead.
I'm really not clear what the Argentinians are expecting to get told by the WTO with regards to their own actions which, yet again, go against the WTO agreements that they signed up to. They simply refuse to accept core facets of the UN charter and major investment agreements in the framework of the WTO.
Seriously, are they pathologically incapable of sticking to any kind of agreement? Does anyone have any research showing a genetic need for argentinians to renege on agreements of all kinds?
[1] worldtradereview.com/news.asp?pType=N&iType=A&iID=197&siD=14&nID=45487
[2] www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/pressroom/content/20120419IPR43561/html/Parliament-deplores-Argentina%27s-decision-to-expropriate-YPF
You missed a bit
Argentina Govt. strategic planning for 2013.......
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say the IMF,ICJ,WTO etc are corrupt thieves
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say the IMF,ICJ,WTO etc are corrupt thieves
(and default, again. Not that it will be called as such. Probably called ''a stand against vultures'' or some such rubbish).
I've probably missed quite a bit out to that edit, TMBOA and her cronies have the ability to take the piss in completely new directions.
”In an era of internet and in a country where whether you accept it or not 78% of people have internet (highest in Latin America), and 98% have cable or satelite”
Not bad for a country where:-
Argentina has a high percentage of electrification (95%), but a significant proportion of the rural population (30%) no electricity.
I think you are the original troll who had this tag. I prefer the troll that was using this tag up to 3 months or so ago, he did at least post sensible things, even for an argie.
Now, let's get something straight in simple words that simple trolls can understand
1) Dengue is spread by mosquitoes that have been infected by feeding on dogs that carry the parasite. There are two main types. The first one gives the patient severe headaches and fever. First time most people survive, second time 10% die, third time 50% die. No cure, like malaria. Only way of ensuring you don’t die is to move to somewhere that is free of it and never return.
The second type is more like a haemorrhagic fever and many people die even with the first time of infection. Still no cure.
BTW, birds have been found with the antibodies to Dengue (meaning they have survived the disease) along the south coast of the UK in the last four years.
2) Necrotizing fasciitis does NOT eat human flesh, the bacterium which causes the disease produces toxins in the tissue that are so powerful they destroy the deep seated flesh by the toxic shock syndrome mechanism. Mortality can approach 70% if untreated.
This disease CAN be treated however using a cocktail of high powered antibiotics.
Most patients are already ill, suffering from trauma surgery, cancer or diabetes.
If you claim that AG does not have this disease you are poorly informed or you are lying.
“Now what are you gonna say? that is from june? UK a falling country and the morons don't wanna get it”
Danny I'll just quote something at the very beginning of the story for you:
“A South Carolina grandmother has become the fifth victim of the flesh-eating bacteria that has sparked terror across Georgia.”
Danny, South Carolina is not in the UK. How stupid are you? The story even gives you a little map as well. This sort of sums up how stupid you really are. You must be feeling pretty idiotic at the moment, I almost want to report your post for abuse against general sentient humans but I think I’ll leave it there, just so you can go back and look at how thick you really are
That's because NO ONE lives in a “rural” area. Some little town of 2000 people in the middle of western La Pampa province 50 km away from the next 2000 people town may appear rural, but it is not. Argentina is one of the most urbanized nations on the planet, I think over 9 in 10 live in non-rural areas.
So if your 30% rural non-electrification is true it is a tiny fraction of the country, probably indian reservations in the north (those people don't want to pay for electricity), some German menonnite communities in the western Pampa who by religious edict prohibit electricity, and cabin communities in Patagonia (either of rich people or the hippie, Age of Acquarium culture in the Lakes Region of Rio Negro), whose owners don't want electricity on purpose.
Dec 06th, 2012 - 12:49 pm
1) “UK a falling country and the morons don't wanna get it”
2) “A South Carolina grandmother has become the fifth victim of the flesh-eating bacteria that has sparked terror across Georgia.”
WTF has your link to do with UK (your quote 1). Since when is South Carolina or Georgia in the UK!!!!!!!
PELOTUDO
@4 Does “helping” include standing on their shoulders?
@10 www.sitata.com/alerts/dengue-fever-summary-of-cases-in-uruguay
@20 What reputation would that be?
@23 Let's expel argieland from the UN and every other international organisation. Why weren't they expelled after blatantly ignoring UNSC 502?
@26 Meat processing plants. You let argies into them, don't you? Contamination! Unsanitary! Source of necrotizing fasciitis!
@29 Research says that necrotizing fasciitis originated in countries using excessive amounts of antibiotics on food animals. South America, anyone? Didn't get to Britain until early 2012.
Nice try, it utterly failed and was made up of nonsensical points but nice try nonetheless.
Odd.
my little story
energia.mecon.gov.ar/permer/PERMER.html
However 5% of the population without electricity is I suppose only about 2 million people.
I was just wondering how you justified your statement “98% have cable or satelite”
Best ya (You) get the hell out of Dodge (Town) ya varmint (You pest) god damn (Blast) you. ya god damn Limey (Brit) hater!
No running water, sewage in the streets but they have TV...American TV at that!!
USA USA USA
so many followed his divert - and some quite bright ones too!
Probably all supplied by you know who, for you know what, what was the majority? 54% was it.
Not really, the amount of USA channels has been going down down down, especially since the reality show era when you stopped making proper shows. No one cares about fat ignorant americans couples sprinting in Moscow, reality shows are cheap so rather watch locals do it.
@51
Your numbers are wrong.
lanic.utexas.edu/project/tilan/statistics/cable_table.html
This number was 14 years ago, with the internet and with cheaper plans that figure is at last 85% now. 98% I meant either internet or cable/satellite (some have one or the other), but still maybe a small exaggeration.
BTW is that horrible smell in BA the rotting corpse of your country?
It's the smell of New Yorker ex-pats bringing a little bit of home with them.
Firstly Argentina should organize itself & own beef industry instead of trade complaints....
in the past,Argentina has never been NO:1 in beef exporting behind Brazil and Australia..and now behind of USA..Canada..at par Uruguay ,India..
Also has decreasing of beef ...000 tonnes exporting since year 2005.....
The more they avoid the real issue in the headline and try to attack the US/UK/Australia/Ghana/Spain etc... the more they admit defeat, I'm seeing a helluva lot of white flags...
Keep up the pretence, you are not an Argentine. I've read posts where you have refered to them as, “You” and “Your.”
You've been caught out again Guzz.
www.comcast.com/programming/channellineup/all.html
Anyone in a civilized country believe that?
Gotta love Goebbels.
www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/food/2012/10/history_of_pink_slime_how_partially_defatted_chopped_beef_got_rebranded.html
I wonder when they'll say it is actually good for you?
Probably killing a few brain cells that are left in that city.
hahahaaa
I originally thought Chrissy had her huge melt down and all the plastic was burning.
Is this Karma in action?
what numbers of mine are wrong ?
Dec 06th, 2012 - 02:45 pm
The best of it is that, being on MP, he can't delete it himself. Can you imagine his reaction when he realised?
......Not any more, LOL
UK is not a province of US anymore like Puerto Rico?
Bloody since when you have become a separated state?
I’m missing something here?
Don’t worry here from Britain 2012-12-06
Should we really fear 'new flesh-eating bacteria'?
www.nhs.uk/news/2012/02February/Pages/airborne-flesh-eating-mrsa-superbug.aspx
“Britain is in the grip of a new “flesh-eating bug spread by sneezes and coughs”, Thursday February 2 2012
But don’t worry the bacteria seems only to eat flesh from honest people and heterosexuals.
You bloody bastards are quite safe.
But don’t worry Argies scientists are working hard to develop a variant of this bacteria to eat kebabs and Curry. And are planing to put some kilos on missile to shoot over Mount Pleasent to starve your Army.
Sounds good and clean
I guess this stunt backfired like all the rest.
What a bunch of boobs running this country.
Sounds like you are confident that these organizations are in the pocket of the US and EU.
And I thought they were impartial and free of corruption.
These northern foreign-fiends delate themselves.
It means your products are not very good if the government has to inspect them all. Maybe you should improve your production standards.
QA is high on the most refined of products.
It's the crap products that get shoved through by the bucket load that never get checked.
After all, if it's all shit, why bother checking it? ;)
You recieved a load of loans, then forced the people who gave you the money to accept less than they gave you.
QED
I'm sure we have a little more pull than a corrupt dictatorship.
Now where to go for Christmas...I'm thinking London it is so pretty this time of year.
maybe next year
can CFK restrict even more imports
I don't think so
I think BCRA is dry
too bad the field arn't
But your comment writing times (2...84)which are GMT do tell us you are not from USA.
#86 bullshit.....ask what their rating was and did pro arg school grade did pro arg make it to...and what ship and unit? Where was their BNT and what did they call them in BNT?
I'd hazard most American's know nothing of the conflict other than Argentina stole a lot of money from American's. Argentina isn't important enough to make it too mainstream American news.
I would just ask Pro RG American what they call basic recruits. In the Army we were a cross between swinging dicks and maggots........US Navy as there term of endearment.
I just wonder when they serve together in military operations what they eat?
Kebabs and curry stuff or Burritos and tacos?
Maybe you can import some good ol USA beef...right along with our wheat.
“Maybe you can import some good ol USA beef”
Yes sure if you want to die of cancer of liver plus to get a good gynecomastia (Big boobs) due to the tons of hormones used to rise your cattle.
It's no wonder it tasted like shit. if the old cow they have as president is anything to go by.
It's that simple.
The days of grass fed beef are long gone in your country.
Not only are they gone there is no grading or marking for beef in Argentina you have no idea what you are buying or eating.
It is too bad, I used to love eating beef there but alas it is yet one of the many industries destroyed by the Ks never to return.
Although, to be fair, some of the best meals that I've eaten have been curries and gyros that are decidedly MQO (Meat of Questionable Origin) based.
Remember, a dog isn't just for Christmas, if you carve it properly it'll last Boxing Day as well.
“Dany, Since you apparently know nothing of your own country, for about 10 years Argentina uses the same hormones and feed lot system as the USA.”
That certain cannot be true because you have said several times that Argentina is a Poor country, Technologically Backwards, Cannot Afford to buy Medicines (especially from US), has a dollar clamp and has not money to invest.
So the poor cows count only on sun, water and grass.
@andy65
Nope I never heard of that but I heard that you are pretty good on that especially if you work for BBC
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2212335/Jimmy-Savile-sex-abuse-allegations-Radio-1-boss-Douglas-Muggeridge-knew-1970s.html
And the Americans has also a good record in the army
www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/the-womens-blog-with-jane-martinson/2012/oct/29/rape-military-shocking-truth
Might just be a few difficulty's a like a free media, a corruption audit, an unpolitical civil service and statistical service a judiciary you cannot insult with impunity ,uncompensated confiscation(YPF water works et al) and a proper tax base .
a corruption audit,
an unpolitical civil service
an uncorrupted statistical service
a judiciary you cannot insult with impunity ,
uncompensated confiscation (YPF, water works, et al) and
a proper tax base .
A bigger problem is that the European Union is, errr ..... European.
As an Irish man who has lived in London most of my life,worked in Canada,Australia,Peru.yes and Argentina.I can tell you that if the latter had the rule of law and development assistance that the E.U. could provide,it would become paradise on earth I would have no hesitation in retiring there
Brasil is still a paradise on earth, as long as you take care around the Curate's Egg bits.
About what free press in the UK are you talking about?
The one that was telling you that in Iraq were WMD...
The one that was telling you that all was so fine until credit crunch F U up?...
The one that bribes police, politicians and public servants to see if Nanny smelly Queen had changed her underwear in the last couple of weeks?
BTW tell me who in the world can be proud to have in 2012 a Queen and a Royal Family eh?
Don’t bother because I can see the flames and smoke coming from your little brain...
Idioooooooooot
More absolute drivel
drivel....from the drolls. Try visiting the countries you critique. Rather than asking pointless, not to mention mindless questions, bring up a valid point where the press is NOT free to attack the government as in asslips backward world of argentina?
“The one that was telling you that in Iraq were WMD...
The one that was telling you that all was so fine until credit crunch F U up?...
The one that bribes police, politicians and public servants to see if Nanny smelly Queen had changed her underwear in the last couple of weeks?”
The one that was telling you that in Iraq were WMD...
The one that was telling you that all was so fine until credit crunch F U up?...
The one that bribes police, politicians and public servants to see if Nanny smelly Queen had changed her underwear in the last couple of weeks?”
Idioooooot!!
What you are talking about here are the news media.
The difference between the UK papers is that they REPORT the news, in Argentina, CFK would have them report only what she approves or dictates. In other words, INVENT the news or editorialise it, in line with any message the government wants to send to the people.
Cause and effect-something Argentina will never understand.
Cause-RGs displace Repsol Effect, simple, Spanish retaliate by banning RG bio diesel.
Is this that hard for Argentina to grasp?
Cause 1832-UPRP send in a militia to Islands UK has claim over since 1690 Effect, simple-after protest ignored by UPRP, UK eject militia in 1833.
Cause: 1982 Argentina invade FIs imposing a government the inhabitants of the Islands do not want. Effect, simple 1982 Argy squatters evicted .
Cause -Argentina imposes protectionist measures limiting imports to Argentina. Effect-other countries impose protectionist measures against RGs limiting imports from Argentina.
What's the Spanish for Doooh?
Good morning ,I,ve been looking at alternatives to Chubut, looked at Uruguay,O.K. safe but rather boring and over reliant on the Argentine economy .
Chile need to find out more,visited twice but working hard on mining emergency ,the people seemed nice,well better than Peruvians(which would not be difficult)
What do you think of southern Brazil? I,m told its the best part
Sorry, I'm not knowledgable about the more 'European' south of Brasil, though I have lived a little in the (expensive) higher altitude communities of Sao Paulo State. Santa Caterina would suit me for its fishing, because I love the marine coasts. and the Matto Grosso for its freshwater fishing, but these days, I like hills and coasts better.
I love the 'Angolan-influenced' North East Brasil, with its diversity of cultures, its hot tropical beaches and reefs. and Carnival is pretty universal across this large country. Get used to flying, it is VERY big.
These days I see countries through the eyes of the retired naturalist, and I get more of a buzz from seeing a sloth than I do from seeing an Englishman.
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