EU, US and Japan ask WTO to rule on Argentine imports’ restrictions
The European Union, the US and Japan have jointly asked the World Trade Organization to rule in a protracted trade dispute with Argentina. They criticize what they believe are unfair import restrictions and protectionism.
The European Union on Thursday appealed for the World Trade Organization (WTO) to rule in a dispute with Argentina over import restrictions. The move was supported by similar complaints from the US and Japan.
“Argentina's import restrictions violate international trade rules and harm EU exports,” EU Trade Commissioner Karel De Gucht said in a statement. He noted that earlier WTO consultations with Argentina had not brought any positive solution.
De Gucht emphasized Thursday's move was “the last resort to see Argentina's unfair trade practices lifted and free and fair trade reestablished.” The European Commission said Argentina's protectionist import licensing procedures potentially affected all EU exports to that country, with shipments reaching a volume of 8.3 billion Euros in 2011.
In a separate complaint, the US stated that Argentina's rules “included the broad use of non-transparent and discretionary import licensing requirements that had the effect of unfairly restricting US exports.”
Argentina was accused of requiring US importers to agree to undertake burdensome trade balancing commitments in exchange for authorization to import goods and services.
Earlier this week, Argentina for its part filed WTO complaints charging the US with trade barriers against its beef and lemons exports, and the EU and Spain in particular with protectionist measures against its bio-diesel.
The EU, US and Japan petition asks for the establishment of a panel to solve the disputes. Mexico also made a similar presentation November 21. The panel will address the dispute 17 December.
Argentina at that moment can object to the panel, so that the issue will then be again addressed in another meeting in January. At this stage Argentina can’t block the process and the panel stands firmly.
EU sources said that Argentina knew before hand that the EU, US and Japan would be making the petition to the WTO, and thus feel disappointed by Argentina’s attitude.
“Argentina’s attitude is totally unjustified and baseless since the Spanish regulation has never had an impact on Argentina’s trade with Spain or the rest of the EU”, said John Clancy, EU trade spokesperson.
Clancy recalled that Spain last October changed the ministerial order, (the motive for Argentina’s complaint) which limited the imports of bio-diesel to countries from the EU. This order automatically dropped the order approved by Spain last April to limit imports from Argentina as a reprisal for the seizure of a majority of Repsol’s YPF.
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Little sheep when alone.
One of my friends in Mendoza suffers from cancer and the medicine he must have is extremely scarce. He emailed me yesterday and told that the farmacia had located two packets in Córdoba and will have them sent to Mendoza. When they are used, he may die from import restrictions. The hospitals have run out of it.
Or do you think these questions have easy answers? And no, I don't want to hear one pathetic little northerner say in their country this sh!t doesn't happen. Both in Europe and the USA millions of people have to struggle to choose between medicine and food, or are turned down by government medicine for treatment due to age or lack of recovery.
Bring the popcorn; I already have the beer, jejeje.
TLV
Have to say that when my dad had Myeloma/Amyloid and needed drugs which were pretty rare we never had a problem getting them on the NHS. In fact, when he went to the cancer clinic we never heard complaints about people not being able to get hold to the drugs they needed. My experience of the Argentinean health system is that it is good but is this a wide spread problem? Are you trying to say that because of our economic policies in the UK people in simialr situations die of cancer through inability to get the requisite drugs? Are you smoking something?
they missed out, desperate, typical, paranoid, malicious, hateful, spiteful, cowardly, vile.......etc....
Welcome to Argentina, nice to see they are getting the global recognition it truly deserves :)
Tobias is talking out of his culo again.
A very dear friend of ours found out last year she has a rare case of cancer. It is so rare that the specialist told her that he has seen only two other cases in the five years he has been in post. The hospital is the biggest in Stoke on Trent and has cases referred to it from the entire county of Stafford.
This cancer grows very slowly indeed and exists between the membrane of the lungs and the heart. It was gradually squeezing her heart and making her breathless that led to its’ discovery.
There was no hesitation in treating it, she went into hospital within two weeks and the chemotherapy started immediately. Regrettably it cannot be operated on, the chemotherapy is a one shot attempt and there is now way to get rid of it completely.
She has just been for her six month review and it has already stated to grow, albeit very slowly. There is nothing more that can be done at this time.
I wonder just how that sinkhole that is AG would have coped. I suspect that firstly they would not know what they were looking at and secondly they would have done nothing about it.
well theres no guessing which one you chose!
and it shows :)
Even diabetic medications are hard to come by for some people.
Very sorry to hear about your friend. One shot chemo is a horrible thing and excatly what my dad had.
www.amyloidosis.org/intranet/Search.aspx?pg=1&alph=J&id=60
The doctors in Argentina are good and look after you well (from first hand experience in an Argentinean hospital in Neuquén) it seems to be a nation of hypercondriacs so the primary provision of healthcare is good...
Idiot has no idea what he is talking about. Thank god for the NHS, annoys me when it gets slagged.
When you travel widely you realise just how blooming lucky we are to have the NHS. It should be added that whilst some people pay a nominal amount for prescriptions the majority do not pay because they are under 16, of pension age, pregnant, on welfare, have chronic illness, cancer etc.
I was trying to explain to some friends in America how the NHS works and is free at point of use. It does not matter if you are rich, middle class or poor, have private health insurance or not, the first point of call with any illness or injury is the local GP. I can walk into my local doctor's surgery six days of the week and see a doctor that day for treatment or referral. No cost. Cradle to grave.
The NHS is special and very dear to the hearts of the British.
My Grandad was a WW1 invalid and could not work. there were seven of them in the family, so they could seldom afford the doctor and the treatment. She used the book to diganose and either made or bought the treatments.
She bought the book on the club, from a door to door saleman, dad said a lot of famiies at that time did the same, or borrowed one from a neighbour.
We seem to have forgotten those times and do not realise how lucky we are.
What’s next on the agenda,??
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@5 Quite true. It's why you lot constantly run around the world begging for “support”.
@9 The one thing that you can be sure of is that no-one outside of LatAm, apart from “terrorist” states needs argieland.
@11 But argieland has a “new model”! It's bankrupt, corrupt, criminal and tens of thousands, possibly millions, of people are against it. What does CFK care. It will be her “monument” to Nestor. Who only stole 100 million plus dollars. CFK will try to steal more.
@16 Not to worry. Argieland is leading the world! I wonder where to. Have you looked behind you? No-one sensible is following. Never mind. Boldly go where no woman has ever gone before! Please don't ask for aid. We are finished.
@19 No!!!!! Are you trying to encourage more Guzz or P-H morons? Leave them to visit only the places they can walk to.
There are waiting lists for certain types of operations, yes. Depending on the urgency of the operation it varies - remember sex change operations, gastric bands, plastic surgery etc. are all available on the NHS and treatments have to be prioritised.
Private insurance is not a priority here. I could afford it but elect to use the NHS, just as almost all the people I know do. We pay for the service and use it.
Did you know that the NHS has the very best doctors and equipment? Most private patients are actually treated in NHS hospitals.
I will give you an example. A friend of mine fell and hurt his neck in Thailand whilst on holiday last year - not what you think, he had not been drinking, it was just an accident - and he was seen at a Thai hospital and deemed fit to fly home even though he was in excruciating pain. The airline took pity and upgraded him and his family so he could have some comfort in first class but by all accounts it was harrowing. When he arrived back to the UK he went to a London hospital where they diagnosed a broken neck. He saw all the best specialists, and despite a grim prognosis that he may be paralysed, he had operations and treatment and has recovered. The company he works for has the best private health insurance but because of the very specialist nature of the treatment he needed, the NHS was his best route for treatment.
If you require urgent treatment, you get it, no waiting.
“Canada is musg that same......8 months for a Cat scan, unless it is an emergency”
Hey, Poppy, I do know what you are talking about, but that is not typical. Personally, I went for non-emergency MRI and CT, and it was only a couple of weeks. Emergency care and medical expertise in Canada is extremely good. I have had both my wife's parents, immigrants, succumb to diabetes, and other related ailments. Their care was first rate, as are Cancer treatments here. UBC' s University Hospital is a leader in Cancer Research.
That being said, their is less money in Canada's public 'not for profit' Medicsl system. Equipment like Cat Scanners are not as readily available, and given Canada's huge geographical area and sparsely populated northern regions, it is not economical to have that equipment everywhere. Patients must be flown to cities or larger centres.
Very reassuring that anyone is entitled to first-rate medical care, and nobody goes broke trying to pay for it. This is the main reason that Canada was rated 14th in world standard of living. The US was 32nd, and Australia with state medical was 2nd. Singapore was 1st.
Argentina??? God knows !!!
The legal costs alone must be eye watering, an awful lot of lawyers must be getting very fat on all this. Still what is a Lawyer but the Laval phase of a politician’s lifecycle.
Yet the probable outcome for Argentina still remains a Pyrrhic defeat, on most if not all fronts.
I work, am a middle class product so healthcare is not an issue for me.
When I had an order for a CAT (I have had my share...6 ortho surgeries-sports related) scan, I typically scheduled it on my time....still do. I guess it comes down to what socities are use to.
Actually Elaine it was the telegraph that I was reading. Said you have a right to be seen at the hospital with 18 weeks of your GP referring you and the number being seen decreased and increased over 18 weeks. 92 % of patients are seen within those 18 weeks. It did not make a distinction for fat people, sexually conflicted people and plastic surgery. Said it was the cost of two consecutive years of budget cuts in healthcare. That is the primary reason most working Americans prefer to keep healthcare private and out of government controls. I think most will defend their country system for it's one they know the best.
That is one hell of a disease.
Well, those same organizations have made “reports” about European medicine: that in Europe tens of thousands die each year because government panels decide they are too old to treat. They also state Europe has not invented one new medicine in 50 years of social-government hospitals, and that for things like apendicitis people have to wait two weeks for surgery.
Americans, don't you trust the EU? Doesn't Captain Poppy/Yankeeboy toss me reports of the Human Rights commision in Geneva, of the EU economic office, etc, about how bad Argentina's performance is.
Well, those same organizations have made “reports” about American medicine: that in the United States people are left to DIE in the emergency waiting rooms if they are found not to have insurance, that the government + insurance + hospitals hook people on unneeded drugs to make more profits, that tens of thousands of families lose their life savings just to get an appendicitis operation (30 thousand dollars).
Or are you saying that all those reports are wrong and you people live in Utopia Terra Incognita by the rest of the world?
It seems to me of those organizations are oh so right about Argentina, they must be oh so right about you!
Analyze this, and enjoy your day!
There is a very simple solution to this: Keep life saving drugs free of import restrictions.
You are wrong in assuming that if Argentina implemented the economic model recommended, he would not be able to afford the medicine to begin with.
If the Argentine governments through decades had managed the country's immense resources sensibly, Argentina would be among the 10 - or maybe even 5 - richest countries per capita.
more absolute garbage !!
Don’t the brits trust the Americans/trust the Canadians/trust the brits ect ect,
We think you will find that all 3 don’t trust the argentines.
Fair enough .lol.
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You say....:
...... it (Argentina) seems to be a nation of hypochondriacs..... so the primary provision of healthcare is good...”
I say...:
So very true.... on both accounts.....
Judging by the comments in here, we are close followed by the Brit Nation....
Defauty day - December 15th
IMF Red Card - December 17th.
LOL.
#38 tobi aka titti boi as he stills lives with momma....posts what he is told to post regardless of it making sense or not.
Che was a communist and died a well deserved death
Communism can be a very democratic politico-economic system, as Marx say “kingdom of freedom”. However, there are all the imperial powers surrounded the USSR, and there was that Georgian, Stalin, distorted its nature. AS to China, it has introduced too much of free market system; now no health insurance, and there is a great gap between haves and have-nots. Cuba is still a very sound country thanks to Fidel. Please note that the logetivity of Cubans is on the aprt with that of the US according to the CIA and State Dpt information. What an achievement in that poor country, isolated by the US imperialism and the EU fascists. Under that circumstance, there need to be some resrtictions on freedom of speech, etc. By the way, the US is rapidly losing its freedom of speech, etc., especially under Obama: see Ntinoal Defense Authorization Act, which can put anyone in jail, military jail like Gantanamo, anybody including US citizens, in communicado, (no lawyer, and no notice to families). Cuba does not have such a system, and no tortues, Not any crimes to speak of. It has one of the best medical systems in Cuba, though there are a lack of medicines, etc., but they are overcoming these difficulties. Because goverment is people oriented, not big bisiness oriented in the US and the EU.
As to Argentina, CFK tries to be people oriented but she does not have any knowledge on economy and is too much of populist, thereby failing its economy.
This is very unfortunate, and without her studpid policy, it can thrive economically even under the current difficult economic situations.
A face on a T shirt!
You are from Japan?????
How large is the Japanese community in Buenos Aires?
What is their typical occupation?
Do we really have to call you yasu toby? titti boi is much better
“Do we really have to call you yasu toby? titti boi is much better”
LOL Poppy, I agree! Same TTT style, nothing Japan-specific that isn't full of crap!!
Answered no questions:
Are you Japanese ?
How big is the Japanese Community ?
What are their occupations?
Typical TTT.
He focuses on his diversions, Ché and communism. I can't imagine many Japanese, except the unemployed, unsuccessful, or disillusioned.
Their neighbours, Vietnam, North Korea, and especially China, are less than friendly, communists!
Russia is his favourite?? Russia has been Japan's hated enemy for over 100 years, and I can't think of a Japanese that would have any admiration for them. Japanese are typically very nationalistic.
I imagine when he refers to “Russian news” he means RT online - renowned for its journalistic integrity, ha ha!!
So, enough of TTT's diversion - hoping that Argentina gets slapped down quickly, and their frivolous lawsuits and protests are shut down.
Japan and Russia are in a heated dispute over the, I think Karil Islands since WWII. You know Troy, I'm thinking they said say screw the complaints and every country that trades with argentina implement the exact import licensing procedure that argentina has. I can't see how argentina can file a complaint then.
Japan, EU, USA must be ina trully desperate economic situation to be trying to get a country like Argentina (700 billion GDP vs 34 trillion those three combined... that's 50 times larger gdp!)... man how the mighty have fallen. Jostling for scraps.
Now Japanese economy: true the public debts to GDP is more than 230%, but it is almost entirely supported by the Japanese domestic money, differing from the US and the EU. Japanese banks are very sound, and manufacturing has still strong basis in Japan, though they have diversified to the US, and others. It is natural for them to make products in the area where they have big customer basis. The quality of Japanese products is still number one. Even Bin Laden recommended Toyota when interviewd Robert Fiske, becasue of high reliability. Just see what small trucks those Arab terrorist use, Toyota.
WTF you waffling on about now!!!!!!
l don't think that he is TTT/Toby.
TTT was such a miserable, picked on,leave me alone, excuse for a man/woman.
yasu's posts are not whining in anyway.
l think he's Japanese(or a very good imitation!).
Anyone here speak Japanese, to try him out?
I want you to leave me alone, I want nothing to do with you. You seem not to respect that.
Lol yes those toyota's blow up very well.....something you can be proud of.
toby/ ttt/ nostowhatthefuck, yasu.......get a life and stick to one persona. Nothing will change, the world gives less than a shit for argentina. Argentina fucked the world and it's time to pay the piper....there is not get out of jail free card this time around.
whatever you call yourself at the moment you are really nothing but a ass pimple
What don't you express everything you eluctate here about Argentian to your wife's face? (if that story is even true). Or are you nothing but an uxorious poltroon?
Brilliant comeback. NOT!!
Argentina has lots of friends...............Yeah, Right.
There are over 190 countries in the world and only a handful in south america can't seem to fit into the world.....why is the toby? Let's hear your tainted excuse?
The most brutal counries are Spain, France and the UK : Sapin erminated entires Laten American natives in Argentina, destroyed Maya, Inca, etc., stealing their wealth, even todays BBC reported this in its feature program, Tou stupid, study the history, though you may not have any brain to do so, like CFK sobre economia, ruining Ar. economy.
France killed more than one million Argerians, and the UK killed lots also.
German killed probably close to 40 millions in WWII, but their killing period is short as it was soudly defeated by the USSR, which saved the world from the yoke of Nazism, and Russia also saves Europe from the yoke of French imperialism. That is the reason I like Russia, which still has many good aspects of the USSR. Porbably you can not see their TVs, which are beyod your comprehesion. I am quite sure.
Now Japan is not imperial power thanks to the US occupation power, which gave us the so-called peace constitution with Article 9 (at that time, the US had many more democratic peace-loving people). Japan can not export any military hardware and software (thatis, technology, which is the world rate technology, which the US wants), though there are some violation of this law (3 principle of trading military hard and soft). This is a quire difference from Germany, which is selling military hardware and technology, even in violation of the rules and regulations. Germany as usual sold Husein raw materials for chemical weapons together with the US, which were used to kill Iranians, as reported by British reporter, Robert Fiske, whold renounced reporter based in Beirut.
I am writing these not as a rely thos e stupidos, but to give truth, which many do not know.
You stupid, stupid
Simple, we are not interested in fitting in the world. What do you have to offer.
I thought so.
“The most brutal counries are Spain, France and the UK : Sapin erminated entires Laten American natives in Argentina, destroyed Maya, Inca, etc., stealing their wealth, even todays BBC reported this ”
That sounds like a very LATAM point of view. You're also talking about 400-200 years ago, certainly the same could not be said for the past 100 years ago.
Where Spain left off in SouthAmerica, Bueno Aires and Argentina took over, wiping out Bronze-Age indigenous peoples for their land and resources. I suppose that was alright though, they were not using them properly, from your perspective.
The Germans killed “40 million” people in 6 years, 2.5% of the world population? Are you sure of your figures?
How does the history of Asia compare? Being “Japanese” you would know, right? You must, in order to justify your actions.
“r during the WWII, in which many Chinese, Koreans were killed but not the extent German did.”
How many millions do you think were killed in Manchuria, China, and Korea in over a decade of war? That's not considering the rest of SE Asia and the Pacific.
“German was soudly defeated by the USSR, which saved the world from the yoke of Nazism” and replaced it with the yoke of Communism and campaigns of retribution.
How many millions of Ukranians, foreign POW's, “undesirables”, and “enemies of the People” died in Stalin's pogroms, purges, and genocides??
They then threatened the rest of the world with Nuclear War (PH-Nippon would love this).
The other Communists, China, who learned from the Russian ComIntern have been attributed to 60 million deaths, under Mao's regime alone.
You leave no doubt which role models you follow personally, and why :-D
Tell us more about modern, peaceful Japan. As head of the US occupation, MacArthur rebuilt Japan instead of raping and punishing its people.
As a result it became a global economic power.
Don't like that? Tell us about the Japanese, nationalistic, gay, militarists of the 1970's.
Japanese war crimes
Main article: Japanese war crimes
Included with total war dead are victims of Japanese war crimes.
R. J. Rummel estimates the civilian victims at 5,424,000. Detailed by country: China 3,695,000; Indochina 457,000; Korea 378,000; Indonesia 375,000; Malaya-Singapore 283,000; Philippines 119,000, Burma 60,000 and Pacific Islands 57,000. Rummel estimates POW deaths in Japanese custody at 539,000 Detailed by country: China 400,000; French Indochina 30,000; Philippines 27,300; Netherlands 25,000; France 14,000; UK 13,000; UK-Colonies 11,000; US 10,700; Australia 8,000.[8][68]
These are the numbers of victims of the WWII and years just before that reached by many scholars.
That is, German killed much more than Japanese did. German killed around 30 millions only in the USSR (the number given above included olny those in the current Russia). They killed the Brits, Americans, and numerous Jews, Gypies, etc. Then they could have killed 40 to 50 millions.
As to Geneva conventions, even today, the US is violating it.
I am not an apologist for what Japanese did but the fact is fact: Japanese killed much less than Germans did.
As to Stalin, the crimes are mainly in the USSR, that is, he did not kill many foreigners excepting those living in the USSR.
Those stupid, find the facts, and then argue. Most of those seem to be scams and stupids.
”That is, German killed much more than Japanese did. German killed around 30 millions only in the USSR (the number given above included olny those in the current Russia). They killed the Brits, Americans, and numerous Jews, Gypies, etc. Then they could have killed 40 to 50 millions.”
Estimates are about 40m Total.
On the other hand, those you admire so much, the Russians, are estimated to have killed a staggering 40m to 62m from 1917-1987. The majority were their own citizens, civilian farmers. An additional 21m Russians are listed as War Dead in WWII.
Not counted is the numbers of enemy soldiers that Soviet troops killed in battle.
www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-bin/blogs/voices.php/2008/01/21/p22696
www.enotes.com/stalin-joseph-reference/stalin-joseph
www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE4.HTM
The other Communists, China, the students of Soviet style communism, are estimated to have killed or starved 78m of their own people.
Yes, Communists and the Russians are exceptional role models for you to admire and embrace.
That says a lot about you.
Stupid
The US is not an angel: they used atomic bombs on Japan top frighten the USSR, not to defeat Japan as Japan is essentially defeated at the time of bombing due to the participation of the USSR against Japan. That is, the dropping of Atomic bombs was just to show that the US has a powerful atomic bomb, to the Soviet.
Chuechill was worse than the US. H e should be also judged as a war criminal. In Greece, the communist led partisans defeated Nazis: while Churchill was suppoted the partisans until they defeated Germans, Churchill started to kill those aex-allied parisans. Also recent (about year or 2 ago), British secrets papers were declassified, in which Churchill wanted to threat the USSR by atomic bombs, asking Truman to use atomic bobms on Baku, if the USSR indicates a kind of surrender. What war criminal he is!
You stupid is like those war criminals, ha ha ha ha.
But we are getting off-track here.
Argentina had relatively good growth until the stupid policy by CFK, but she derailed it, now it has to default all its obligations to other countries, that is, it will be 2001 or 2002 again. Anf Argentinians can not get any trust from the financial worlds. Only brave studids can invest in Ar, as long as CFK is alive.
Yes, we are off track.
“Yasu” the RG troll, is trying to establish his persona as a successful Japanese property owner in Argentina and paradoxically, as a supporter of communism too, especially the most bloodthirsty regime in history.
Funny his view of history - just trying to get our goats, demonising Churchill, portraying Allied war actions as provocations against the USSR.
So, “Yasu”,
can you back anything up with links about Baku.
I have one, with a Japanese perspective:
”Baku (獏 or 貘) are Japanese supernatural beings that devour dreams and nightmares. ”
See, just a figment of your imagination, just as you are a figment of TTT's or ProRG 's imaginations. :-)
Really not hearing much about Japan.
How do you reconcile being a wealthy Japanese nationalist and capitalist, with your admiration of a murdering/enslaving communist regime.
I suppose you're not a fan of Nationalist and modern Japanese militarist Yukio Mishima? His platform was a resurgence of Japan as a superior military power. Like you, he resented the US 'restrictions' on Japan.
But no, you're all for Russian and Communist dominance.
There are many communists who are famous and devote their life for the betterment of people. Examples included Pablo Picaso (very rich in a way but he was a card carrying communist member of France, Niemayer who died just few days ago, who deisgned many buildings including the UN building, other numerous buildings all over the world, and as to Argentinians, Mercedes Sosa whodied several years ago, Osvaldo Publiese (tango), and famous Chilean poet, nobel rpize winner in literature, Pablo Neruda, recent Nobel prize winner in physics, Prof. Masuda from Japan and Dr. Yukawa, the first nobel prize winner in physics from Japan many years ago was assisted by many communist physicists in Japan. Julio Curie, communist and nobel prize winner from France, Luis Aragon nobel prize winner in literature from France, and there are countless famous communists known world over.
One can not judge communism or Marxism by citing some mistakes or wrong doings by some.
“One can not judge communism or Marxism by citing some mistakes or wrong doings by some.”
LOL LOL LOL - you are ridiculous!!
But then, you are just making outrageous statements as an Argentine Troll diversion.
What stupid statements - I'm still laughing!!!
You chose two artists, idealists perhaps, as your examples of Marxist Communism.
Pure Communism should be a utopia.
However, you state that you admire Russia! The people who “made a few mistakes ” are Stalin, the most influential communist in the 20th century, the murderer of 60m of his own people. He created the institutions and the Russia that you hold up as a shining example to the world. The other person who “made mistakes” was Mao, responsible for at least 60m deaths, systematically destroying the fabric of Chinese society, and eliminating “Freedom of the Press”, and an entire class of intellectuals. China and Mao were instructed by Russia and the ComIntern on how to subjugate the population.
Today, it is the largest representation, 1.2B people, of a functioning Communist State, arguably more 'pure' than Russia.
Tell me more about how Japan got 'shafted' by the West? The Japanese must have strong feelings about that??
How do the Japanese feel about modern militarists like Yukio Mishima? Do you know who he is? He wanted to make Japan 'great again'.
How does the Japanese community of Argentina feel about the economy there?
Surely, as foreigners they must be worried about their investments??
As an 'identifiable minority' do they experience violence and crime from the Argentines??
You wouldn't know, you are Argentine yourself and know nothing of Japanese culture or social issues, do you??
You are not convincing anyone.
Japan seems to be in agreement with US and EU and UK - they don't want your crap goods!!
As some you asked questions, let me reply as follows.
Mishima was a fascist militrarist, whom one few in Japan admire, inspite of the fact that he could be a good writer, but not the level of Pushikin, etc.
I am not living in Argentina, but visit there few times a year, and those Japanese immigrants are different from those Japanese who immigrated: they were generally from poor uneducated families who could not live in Japan, as most of immigrants were so. If you have money and are well to do, they do not immigrate to other poor countries like Argentina.
Japanese economy is not so bad now though it has to reduece the public debts which are supported mostly by Japanese, that is, no Greece nor even European countries such as Spain, and even Germany (which is by the way most corrupt countries in the world. For example, Siemens paid 2.5 billion US$ as penalties, etc. for its corruptions including some big ones in Argentina.) and the US, which is having the fiscal cliff, and can not pay any debts to Japan and China for ever.
Even tourists are now experiencing the violences in AR, see one in C/Florida, but excepting Japan where it is very safe, you have to suffer from violences. I live also in the US and safe areas : for example, I lives in the apt building where the great tenor Placido Domingo lives, used the same elevator with him, as we have one elevator per each apt. on the floor.
As to Japanese cultures, I do notlike their popular musics, which are often feudalistic, and I am more familiar with Russian culture and European cultures as many Japanese intellecturals are very familiar with them.
As to investments in AR, it might be crazyl to invest there under to current situation thanks to CFK, which is causing great damages to AR economy as noted by Lavagna, ex economic minister. Chinese communists are very corrupt to the extent that it is a disgrace.
You have Troll written all over you. Your typical behaviour gives you away.
Trying to pass yourself off as a wealthy Japanese business man, intellectual, and int'l property owner??
No Japanese would be as crass as you. Why not just say, I live in NYC?? Living in the US alone, is enough to impress troll - cronies,( and typical, mind you) but you have to kick it up a notch - “my neighbour is Placido Domingo”. Why would you mention that? You give no personal details, otherwise, but that nails your address, 425 E. 58th Street!!!
Oh, wait - that's readily available on google:
therealdeal.com/blog/2008/12/05/opera-star-placido-domingo-buys-1m-sutton-place-co-op/
(Really, $1m ??? Not so much, actually)
Typical Argie troll, you brag about your wealth while you put down others, “Japanese immigrants are different from those Japanese who immigrated: they were generally from poor uneducated familie”
No Japanese would behave that way.
You show a particular antipathy towards the Germans, though your countries shared very close ties for decades. You hail the Russian Communists as admirable role models, contrary to the real Japanese. Not even Japanese “intellectuals”.
In fact, your previous posts solely seem to be childish attempts to insult and provoke the US, UK, and EU contributors to this forum.
Surely, you should have identified with Mishima !
You have not yet, posted any links to corroborate your 'alternate universe' statements of history.
BTW, as a Japanese, you would know that the Japanese military and the Japanese people would never surrender to an enemy invader. They would have fought to the last man, taking devastating losses in house to house fighting. They would have died for the Emperor, a deity.
It took the A-bombs to make Hirohito ask the people to surrender.
I can't think of any Japanese “intellectual” that would be as rude or immodest, or 'foolish' as you.
Good try, porteno boludo.
As to close yies with Germany, Richard Sorge, who was a communist member of the USSR, though he is a German, was dispatched by one of the largest German newspaper, probably Frankfurtaralgemine, as a correspondent in Japan during WWII, but he was an excellent espion, and with a cooperation of a high ranking Japanese, spied on Japan and sent some valiable information to the USSR, telling that Japan would not attack it from the east in spite of the request from the nazis. This allowed the USSR to move their army on the eastern front to the western front to defeat Nazis, acclerating the defeat of Hitler. They were caught by Japanese police and hunged just before the end of the WWII.
As to atomic bomb use, the US used one on Hiroshima, which was not a major military base, just killing mostly innocent civilians and within a week, it dropped another one on Nagasaki, which did not have any major military base. If the US really wanted to defeat Japan, it should have used atomic bombs in right above imperial palace in Tokyo, or other major military bases such as Yokosuka. That is, the purposes of dropping atomic bombs had several purposes, the major one to frighten the USSR, to experiment them, to find its effects on human guinea pigs (Japanese) (there is an excellent reportage made by Americans, and broughtcast by RT, Alzejeera, etc. which tells the experiments on human bodies on survivers instead of treating them in a very graphic manner, you should see it).
As to other relation with pre-war Germany, which was one of the most scientifically and technologically advanced, Japan used it.
ln his first line he talks about “stupid, duped Japs”, JAPS, It is my understanding that the Japanese do not like being called “Japs”
They prefer Nipponese.
So if he is Japanese, he wouldn't use the word “Japs”
But he does sound Japanese.
I am convinced that he is a Communist, HE might say Marxist. He reveres the Russian model of applied Communism, but knows Stalin is indefensible. Therefore, he gives the standard answer, “Stalin was not Russian, he was Georgian”, and “don't judge Communism by mistakes and wrong doing.”
All his answers about Japan are related to the USSR and they all have a common theme - USSR is mankind's saviour, Western Allies actions were anti-humanitarian or war crimes.
And, you were right, he does not react to any of the Japanese “ hot button” issues I brought up.
BTW, Yukio Mishima was a Japanese nationalist who did not like perceived US subjugation of Japan.
He was also an internationslly renowned author. What is not mentioned by Yazu is that the themes were often homosexuality and after his death there were many very embarrassing revelations about his lifestyle. Several make lovers appeared publically, he faced much criticism and the family has tried to cover it up ever since. I think he just did a quick google search for that info, “ Yukio Mishima, author, militarist”
Far from being a wealthy Japanese businessman, I am sure that Yasu is merely an idealistic, but confused (duped) communist student. I would bet he has never left South America.
His attempts to intimidate other posters by insults when questioned is a hallmark of our Troll friends. Perhaps he is a new recruit.
don't Poop ...Think....don't Poop....
There Gini coefficients are quiete high, almost duble the Japanese one (just 24.9, meaning the more equal distribution of wealth, compared with other developed countries: France is 32.7, Germany 28.3, the US 40.8, Singapore 42.5 extremely unequal city state). Spain 34.7 and the UK 36.0
“Fools”, “stupid” etc etc
False statistics too.
You sound more Argentinian than Japanese.
Japane has the best equality in terms of wealth distribution. Those whose wealth is very high are due to their holdinfgs of real estates such as Mori familty. Whenever, I see my friends who are presidents of big companies, I always tell them that you are born in a wrong country, as they generally earn a half million US$ or less. In the US, thery earn 100 million or even billions per annum. Ordinary Japanese workers earn 40,000 to 100,000 US$ after working about 10 years. That means Japanese tops (CEO) earn only 10 times or even just 5 times. People who are ignorant such as you should study everything very carefully. Japan is still one of the richest country where people have large savings.
Have you seen the latest news regarding your fabled Mendoza?
New inmates in the Public Hospital: CUCARACHAS no less.
www.docsalud.com/articulo/4207/mendoza-cucarachas-invaden-hospital-público
Soon to be promoted to Consultants In Bacterial Infections methinks!
You know these infections - the ones that your amigo at La Camping It Up or Homos Are Us by the name of Dunni-Burger says categorically do NOT exist anywhere in Argentina.
Gotcha this time little boy. LOLs
You stupido troll yasu....so STAY ON TOPIC TOBY
maybe your next identity you can be a ........mmmmmmmm North Korean...say .....Kim Soo Lee
Good one !
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