Thursday, December 20th 2012 - 06:19 UTC

“Madame President: pls address inflation and rampant crime” demands Argentine organized labour

Argentine dissident organized labour concentrated at the emblematic Plaza de Mayo and claimed the government of Cristina Fernandez was applying IMF recipes by halting wage hikes for workers and called on the Lady to address inflation and rampant crime.

Moyano accused Cristina Fernandez of following IMF recipes (Photo: AFP)

“This is no other than what the International Monetary Fund instructed Argentina at the time. This is an undercover austerity measure. When the IMF outlines the policies of those countries that subordinate themselves, the first thing it does is freeze salaries. And the Government has frozen and even reduced salaries” said organized labour CGT leader Hugo Moyano at the Wednesday rally next to Pablo Micheli from another once rival labour organization.

The two leaders, Moyano and Micheli walked down the centre of Buenos Aires followed by numerous columns of followers with flags and banners, and converged from different directions on to Plaza de Mayo. Small farmers associations adhered to the rally as so did some opposition political parties among which the most outstanding the Radicales.

An estimated 100.000 people marched and finally converged on Plaza de Mayo.

Regarding the 2013 midterm elections, Moyano said that ”we will have this fundamental tool of democracy, and us workers will vote for those who guarantee our rights. We can’t be wrong again! Don’t come to us with fantasies of an unfinished revolution”.

In 2011 President Cristina Fernandez was re-elected with a record 54% support and thirty points ahead of the runner-up.

Moyano then called on President Cristina Fernández to address inflation and crime rates. “Madame President, please address inflation and security which are the main concern of all Argentines”.

The demands by the high-profile labour union groups included wages, family pay packets, inflation, income tax rates and the owed state debt to the unions’ health insurance companies.

Miceli underlined the union of organized labour: “we started with a concrete action plan along different paths but now we are showing that things can be done together”.

“This rally is not against any government but in self defence and they are not going to have us out of the streets until dialogue is established”, added Miceli who insisted in claiming better salaries and a more fair taxing system.

The two labour leaders also called for an independent Justice. “We have a most respectful Supreme Court and this government wants to tread on it. The Court must annul the terrorist bill which is a threat for civil liberties and for unions’ rights”, said Miceli.

Likewise Moyano demanded that the government respects the court cases favouring old pensioners, who “have been denied justice by the government and like to dress up as the defenders of human rights, what an irony!”

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1 Troy Tempest (#) Dec 20th, 2012 - 07:03 am Report abuse
Sounds like a responsible, truth-telling ( who else used that term, but only to deceive? hmmm) opposition, with the true welfare of the people in mind.

They'll hold her feet to the fire !!
2 Iron Man (#) Dec 20th, 2012 - 07:24 am Report abuse
@1 According to posters on here who are more familiar than I am re Moyano, he is pretty awful as well, just in a different way to CFK. Let's face it, if you realised you had a chance of being President, or even a President-maker, in a country as corrupt as Argentina, you'd grab it with both hands and wait for the riches to roll in.

The real problem for ordinary people in Argentina is that it is impossible to see an alternative - where is the leader who will change things for the better, end the incompetence, corruption and cheap nationalism and put the country back on track to make proper use of its natural resources and be a valuable member of the international community?
3 Shed-time (#) Dec 20th, 2012 - 07:41 am Report abuse
inflation going up! wages going down!... please hold on to your possessions while the ride commences. This guy is said to be as big a joke as frau frump, so the mullet-strokers have nowhere to turn in the ballots.
4 The Chilean perspective (#) Dec 20th, 2012 - 09:51 am Report abuse
Unfortunately there is no free market alternative in Argentina, so if they don't like high inflation, currency restrictions, import restrictions, a non independent central bank, nationalizations and all the other hassles that go hand in hand with a socialist/nationalist government , then they better get used to it because there will never be change. Argentines want to suckle from the bosom of the state, this is when they are at their happiest, so I don't expect any change soon. Socialism, para todos y todas!
5 Optimus_Princeps (#) Dec 20th, 2012 - 11:36 am Report abuse
The problem is that a large portion of the population is anti-work, while they don't care that the rest of us have to pick up the slack. Finding a business with hours of operation that they actually follow is rare. The siesta is another tradition that just screams laziness.

My friends joke and say, why don't we leave Argentina and start our own country without all the lazy scum. Then they can wonder why their welfare checks aren't coming in anymore.
6 ElaineB (#) Dec 20th, 2012 - 11:59 am Report abuse
It will require a cultural change if Argentina is ever to reach its' potential.
7 ptolemy (#) Dec 20th, 2012 - 12:50 pm Report abuse
I'm not convinced Moyano is such an awful person. His problem, and other people's problems, is he only represents one segment of the population, (workers.) This is the problem for many. Gangs of men roaming the streets, buses full of union protesters beating drums while careening down the street, does not suggest the best image for Moyano. Be glad he is not Luis D'Elía.
8 Raven (#) Dec 20th, 2012 - 01:03 pm Report abuse
An interesting BBC World Service programme broadcast last week dealing with the 'official' inflation figures.
9 yankeeboy (#) Dec 20th, 2012 - 01:24 pm Report abuse
Gov't is pushing for a 20% rise in salaries this year, after 30% inflation in 2012 and expected inflation of 37% in 2013.

Long ago when stupid Axel was saying inflation is not an issue because everyone's wages go up more I told him that can't last forever and here it is.

These Rgs are so short sighted they could never survive outside of that crazy country they have created.
10 briton (#) Dec 20th, 2012 - 01:56 pm Report abuse
Well, at the end of the day,
someone has to take the blame for this,

someone must carry the can,
now ? who can we blame for all this mess,
we wonder ? mmm
11 Nostrolldamus The 3rd (#) Dec 20th, 2012 - 01:56 pm Report abuse
You can't make this up:

Bullet-proof SCHOOL BACKPACKS. Cinderella and SPider-man and everything... what a safe, civilized country.

United States: “The Brazil of the north”.


Actually, a 20-30 minute siesta boost cognitive function by 30% and alertness by almost 100%, in tests done with oral, video game, and simple iq exercises. So you have no idea what you are talking about. It is a natural human rythm to have a sleepy period around 1400. What isn't beneficial or detrimental is a 3 hour siesta.

When I can I close my eyes for 25 minutes after lunch. My attention and concentration in studying is way way higher when I do that compared to when I just keep on going.
12 eteega (#) Dec 20th, 2012 - 02:00 pm Report abuse
Peronista politicians have always been a bit like the pigs in Animal Farm...they preach equality for all but tend to live high off the hog, whilst stuffing their pockets with whatever they can get their hands on.
I am surprised that CFK doesn’t appear to know Abe Lincoln’s famous caution to politicians:
“You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time”
13 Nostrolldamus The 3rd (#) Dec 20th, 2012 - 02:01 pm Report abuse
“Peronista politicians have always been a bit like the pigs in Animal Farm...”

So they are just like the banking CEOs, the real political leaders of Europe and the USA.
14 briton (#) Dec 20th, 2012 - 02:17 pm Report abuse
we would like to wish you all and early marry christmas,,,
seeing as you aint going to be here to enjoy it..

its the thought that counts lol.
15 yankeeboy (#) Dec 20th, 2012 - 02:22 pm Report abuse
12. But what I don't get is why the Rgs cheer on the Pols who get rich off their backs?
Are they that stupid?
They have to know the money is being stolen from them, right?
16 Troy Tempest (#) Dec 20th, 2012 - 03:17 pm Report abuse
@11 Nozzy

“Actually, a 20-30 minute siesta boost cognitive function by 30% and alertness by almost 100%, in tests done with oral, video game, and simple iq exercises. So you have no idea what you are talking about. It is a natural human rythm to have a sleepy period around 1400. What isn't beneficial or detrimental is a 3 hour siesta.

When I can I close my eyes for 25 minutes after lunch. My attention and concentration in studying is way way higher when I do that compared to when I just keep on going.”

Of course cognitive function and alertness is ZERO for that time period, perhaps longer.

You guys can rationalise anything LOL
17 Optimus_Princeps (#) Dec 20th, 2012 - 04:01 pm Report abuse
@11 People can do as they like on their lunch break, but on a cultural scale it's bad business. I also am very familiar with polyphasic sleep. It's amazing for college students as well, but seeing an entire city shut down for a couple of hours a day is a complete waste.
18 Shed-time (#) Dec 20th, 2012 - 04:27 pm Report abuse
Having 4 hours of snooze in the middle of the day, combined with a 3 hour day consisting of sitting around doing nothing, consuming 30 kilos of raw meat, and getting sour about no one wanting to buy your things whilst not paying your debts, is not the sign of a good business culture.

That's half the reason the Spanish and Argentine economies are in freefall. FACT.
19 yankeeboy (#) Dec 20th, 2012 - 04:52 pm Report abuse
One of the really annoying things about living in BA is that the utilities, water, gas, phone and most gov't offices won't answer their phones until after 10am! Then there is coffee 1030-11, then lunch 12-130 and they finish the day around 4 or 430.
Then add on the gov't holidays and 5 weeks of vacation!
You can't get anything done in that horrible place!
20 Nostrolldamus The 3rd (#) Dec 20th, 2012 - 07:07 pm Report abuse

Look, you believe what you want to believe, I'll puth my faith in science, reason, theory, and method.

I know that in the USA, Canada, UK, and Europe you are in the midst of an anti-science, anti-empiricism groundswell. I am aware of the ardent rejection of scientific thought which now suffuses all facets of life there, and how you have retrogressed towards purblind superstition and obscurantist folklore. You are free to pursue that path.

But please, get off my back when it comes to questioning science here, that is the one solitary transgression I will not brook with any longanimity. Your ”reply' was de minimis, go burn incenses if you so wish.
21 briton (#) Dec 20th, 2012 - 07:19 pm Report abuse
Wise complicated words,
Scientific breakthroughs, are good for the soles,

Only the scientific failures are really ignored,

So I doubt if the northern countries are anti scientific,
Rather than pro-proven,

After all, where would we all be without science.

Just a scientific thought.

5 days to go,
father christmas is getting
22 ptolemy (#) Dec 20th, 2012 - 08:16 pm Report abuse
Nostrolldamus The 3rd , you should have your own TV show and quit wasting your talent here.
23 yankeeboy (#) Dec 20th, 2012 - 09:09 pm Report abuse
Toby, You are turning into one of the saddest most pathetic people I have contact with,
Argentina must do that to people
nothing to look forward to
never can move from the station you were born into
knowing you'll be poorer than your parents
only surviving but never thriving
never being able to see the places you've read about
it's terribly sad existence
All caused by consecutive bad governments
and endemic corruption
sad sad sad
24 Troy Tempest (#) Dec 20th, 2012 - 09:52 pm Report abuse
@20 Nostroll

Up your nostril, Toby.
I can well imagine that people think clearer after a nap.

However, while you are sleeping, your co-workers are working, producing, cooking fries, etc. - making money for your employer.

Again, your output is ZERO. You are producing nothing for that period.

A cultural thing, I suppose, as @21 Briton said.

How's your summer job?

I'll have a Coke with that Big Mac, please, while you kowtow to the US multinational. :-D
25 Shed-time (#) Dec 20th, 2012 - 10:04 pm Report abuse
Did anyone read what Toby said? I couldn't be arsed so can someone paraphrase it.
26 Troy Tempest (#) Dec 20th, 2012 - 10:26 pm Report abuse
Something about “questioning science” and other rambling.

Not really sure what he was on about this time, again.

27 Pirate Love (#) Dec 20th, 2012 - 10:30 pm Report abuse
“Madame President: pls address inflation and rampant crime” ,
yeah right, what inflation according to indec you dont have an inflation problem, as for the rampant crime issue , they have a website.
28 Troy Tempest (#) Dec 20th, 2012 - 10:36 pm Report abuse
Had a look at that.

What a bunch of cultists!!
29 Pirate Love (#) Dec 20th, 2012 - 10:47 pm Report abuse
Militarization of Argentinas brainwashed youth,starting at school!
like pied piper Adolf Crustina will continue to lead them over the edge, to the tune of her peronist lies and misinformation.....
no doubt end the same way as most insane cults!
30 Troy Tempest (#) Dec 20th, 2012 - 11:02 pm Report abuse
Like Pirat-Hunter ALEX VARGAS, they “drank the Kool-aid”.


but scary
31 Tobers (#) Dec 20th, 2012 - 11:02 pm Report abuse
Yeah I just had a look too at the Campora website. That is genuinely scary stuff. I felt a chill run through me. To me it is entirely comparable with The Hitler Youth of the early 30s.
32 ptolemy (#) Dec 20th, 2012 - 11:52 pm Report abuse
Yeah, La Campora opened for business about 5 weeks ago a few blocks from my house. Tonight,.. UB Peronista (read I love CFK,) opens it's station tonight,..ACROSS the street from me. The brainwashing has begun. You'd have to be here to believe it. We have become Banana Republic.
33 Ayayay (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 12:11 am Report abuse
Doesn't any side there use their mouth-motor to discuss small, slow, but cumulative solutions and take positive action?
34 ptolemy (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 01:16 am Report abuse

35 Simon68 (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 02:00 pm Report abuse
32 ptolemy (#)
Dec 20th, 2012 - 11:52 pm

I feel very sorry for you, I imagine that the value of your property has fallen through the floor!!!!

La Campora tried to open a place in our town, but it only lasted for about two weeks and then misteriously decamped without paying the rent!!!!!
36 yankeeboy (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 03:14 pm Report abuse
Whew what a day they had yesterday in Argentina!!
Yet no comments from our Rg posters
Multiple country wide riots
National Police called out in several cities
Multiple deaths
Inflation expected at 3%/Month starting this month
Further devaluation of the Peso
Such a great place to live
I wonder why so many Rgs are fleeing to the north?
37 reality check (#) Dec 22nd, 2012 - 02:47 am Report abuse

No, it's all over. They took ProRG_Americans advice and sent in tanks equipped with flame throwers.

Mans a nut, no way is he a real Yank!
38 briton (#) Dec 22nd, 2012 - 08:13 pm Report abuse
perhaps this was the mayans fault,
39 downunder (#) Dec 24th, 2012 - 08:44 am Report abuse
Inflation, rampant crime, approx 100, 000 prtotest marchers in BA, widespread looting in Argrntine provincial cities. A paranoid self -obsessed government -there is something rotten in the state of Argentina.
40 British_Kirchnerist (#) Dec 24th, 2012 - 07:25 pm Report abuse
Moyano is a scab, and he has a real cheeck to attack Cristina as an IMF stooge when she's being hammered for refusing to implement austerity. I don't think he'd be so steadfast if he got in, he's a Menemesque mafia man
41 Troy Tempest (#) Dec 25th, 2012 - 01:47 am Report abuse

Have you been away? Re-re-arrested??

I notice you are hitting every past thread, straining to put in some token post in favour of CFK.

If you think this will annoy us, you couldn't be more wrong.
It just shows what a mindless inept drone you are. All these threads are past the point of any meaningful discussion and you points, if any, have already been disproved and derided, earlier.

I ask you again, “do you get paid by the thread?”

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