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“Madame President: pls address inflation and rampant crime” demands Argentine organized labour
Argentine dissident organized labour concentrated at the emblematic Plaza de Mayo and claimed the government of Cristina Fernandez was applying IMF recipes by halting wage hikes for workers and called on the Lady to address inflation and rampant crime. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesSounds like a responsible, truth-telling ( who else used that term, but only to deceive? hmmm) opposition, with the true welfare of the people in mind.
Dec 20th, 2012 - 07:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0They'll hold her feet to the fire !!
@1 According to posters on here who are more familiar than I am re Moyano, he is pretty awful as well, just in a different way to CFK. Let's face it, if you realised you had a chance of being President, or even a President-maker, in a country as corrupt as Argentina, you'd grab it with both hands and wait for the riches to roll in.
Dec 20th, 2012 - 07:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0The real problem for ordinary people in Argentina is that it is impossible to see an alternative - where is the leader who will change things for the better, end the incompetence, corruption and cheap nationalism and put the country back on track to make proper use of its natural resources and be a valuable member of the international community?
inflation going up! wages going down!... please hold on to your possessions while the ride commences. This guy is said to be as big a joke as frau frump, so the mullet-strokers have nowhere to turn in the ballots.
Dec 20th, 2012 - 07:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Unfortunately there is no free market alternative in Argentina, so if they don't like high inflation, currency restrictions, import restrictions, a non independent central bank, nationalizations and all the other hassles that go hand in hand with a socialist/nationalist government , then they better get used to it because there will never be change. Argentines want to suckle from the bosom of the state, this is when they are at their happiest, so I don't expect any change soon. Socialism, para todos y todas!
Dec 20th, 2012 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0The problem is that a large portion of the population is anti-work, while they don't care that the rest of us have to pick up the slack. Finding a business with hours of operation that they actually follow is rare. The siesta is another tradition that just screams laziness.
Dec 20th, 2012 - 11:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0My friends joke and say, why don't we leave Argentina and start our own country without all the lazy scum. Then they can wonder why their welfare checks aren't coming in anymore.
It will require a cultural change if Argentina is ever to reach its' potential.
Dec 20th, 2012 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0@2
Dec 20th, 2012 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm not convinced Moyano is such an awful person. His problem, and other people's problems, is he only represents one segment of the population, (workers.) This is the problem for many. Gangs of men roaming the streets, buses full of union protesters beating drums while careening down the street, does not suggest the best image for Moyano. Be glad he is not Luis D'Elía.
An interesting BBC World Service programme broadcast last week dealing with the 'official' inflation figures.
Dec 20th, 2012 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p011phwy
Gov't is pushing for a 20% rise in salaries this year, after 30% inflation in 2012 and expected inflation of 37% in 2013.
Dec 20th, 2012 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Long ago when stupid Axel was saying inflation is not an issue because everyone's wages go up more I told him that can't last forever and here it is.
These Rgs are so short sighted they could never survive outside of that crazy country they have created.
Well, at the end of the day,
Dec 20th, 2012 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0someone has to take the blame for this,
someone must carry the can,
now ? who can we blame for all this mess,
we wonder ? mmm
You can't make this up:
Dec 20th, 2012 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.lanacion.com.ar/1538490-furor-por-mochilas-antibalas-en-estados-unidos-tras-la-masacre-de-connecticut
Bullet-proof SCHOOL BACKPACKS. Cinderella and SPider-man and everything... what a safe, civilized country.
United States: “The Brazil of the north”.
@5
Actually, a 20-30 minute siesta boost cognitive function by 30% and alertness by almost 100%, in tests done with oral, video game, and simple iq exercises. So you have no idea what you are talking about. It is a natural human rythm to have a sleepy period around 1400. What isn't beneficial or detrimental is a 3 hour siesta.
When I can I close my eyes for 25 minutes after lunch. My attention and concentration in studying is way way higher when I do that compared to when I just keep on going.
Peronista politicians have always been a bit like the pigs in Animal Farm...they preach equality for all but tend to live high off the hog, whilst stuffing their pockets with whatever they can get their hands on.
Dec 20th, 2012 - 02:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am surprised that CFK doesn’t appear to know Abe Lincoln’s famous caution to politicians:
“You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time”
“Peronista politicians have always been a bit like the pigs in Animal Farm...”
Dec 20th, 2012 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So they are just like the banking CEOs, the real political leaders of Europe and the USA.
we would like to wish you all and early marry christmas,,,
Dec 20th, 2012 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0seeing as you aint going to be here to enjoy it..
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still
its the thought that counts lol.
12. But what I don't get is why the Rgs cheer on the Pols who get rich off their backs?
Dec 20th, 2012 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are they that stupid?
They have to know the money is being stolen from them, right?
@11 Nozzy
Dec 20th, 2012 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Actually, a 20-30 minute siesta boost cognitive function by 30% and alertness by almost 100%, in tests done with oral, video game, and simple iq exercises. So you have no idea what you are talking about. It is a natural human rythm to have a sleepy period around 1400. What isn't beneficial or detrimental is a 3 hour siesta.
When I can I close my eyes for 25 minutes after lunch. My attention and concentration in studying is way way higher when I do that compared to when I just keep on going.”
Of course cognitive function and alertness is ZERO for that time period, perhaps longer.
You guys can rationalise anything LOL
@11 People can do as they like on their lunch break, but on a cultural scale it's bad business. I also am very familiar with polyphasic sleep. It's amazing for college students as well, but seeing an entire city shut down for a couple of hours a day is a complete waste.
Dec 20th, 2012 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Having 4 hours of snooze in the middle of the day, combined with a 3 hour day consisting of sitting around doing nothing, consuming 30 kilos of raw meat, and getting sour about no one wanting to buy your things whilst not paying your debts, is not the sign of a good business culture.
Dec 20th, 2012 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's half the reason the Spanish and Argentine economies are in freefall. FACT.
One of the really annoying things about living in BA is that the utilities, water, gas, phone and most gov't offices won't answer their phones until after 10am! Then there is coffee 1030-11, then lunch 12-130 and they finish the day around 4 or 430.
Dec 20th, 2012 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then add on the gov't holidays and 5 weeks of vacation!
You can't get anything done in that horrible place!
@16
Dec 20th, 2012 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Look, you believe what you want to believe, I'll puth my faith in science, reason, theory, and method.
I know that in the USA, Canada, UK, and Europe you are in the midst of an anti-science, anti-empiricism groundswell. I am aware of the ardent rejection of scientific thought which now suffuses all facets of life there, and how you have retrogressed towards purblind superstition and obscurantist folklore. You are free to pursue that path.
But please, get off my back when it comes to questioning science here, that is the one solitary transgression I will not brook with any longanimity. Your ”reply' was de minimis, go burn incenses if you so wish.
Wise complicated words,
Dec 20th, 2012 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Scientific breakthroughs, are good for the soles,
Only the scientific failures are really ignored,
So I doubt if the northern countries are anti scientific,
Rather than pro-proven,
After all, where would we all be without science.
Just a scientific thought.
5 days to go,
father christmas is getting nearer.lol.
@20
Dec 20th, 2012 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nostrolldamus The 3rd , you should have your own TV show and quit wasting your talent here.
Toby, You are turning into one of the saddest most pathetic people I have contact with,
Dec 20th, 2012 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina must do that to people
nothing to look forward to
never can move from the station you were born into
knowing you'll be poorer than your parents
only surviving but never thriving
never being able to see the places you've read about
it's terribly sad existence
All caused by consecutive bad governments
and endemic corruption
sad sad sad
@20 Nostroll
Dec 20th, 2012 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Up your nostril, Toby.
I can well imagine that people think clearer after a nap.
However, while you are sleeping, your co-workers are working, producing, cooking fries, etc. - making money for your employer.
Again, your output is ZERO. You are producing nothing for that period.
A cultural thing, I suppose, as @21 Briton said.
How's your summer job?
I'll have a Coke with that Big Mac, please, while you kowtow to the US multinational. :-D
Did anyone read what Toby said? I couldn't be arsed so can someone paraphrase it.
Dec 20th, 2012 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Something about “questioning science” and other rambling.
Dec 20th, 2012 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not really sure what he was on about this time, again.
???
“Madame President: pls address inflation and rampant crime” ,
Dec 20th, 2012 - 10:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0yeah right, what inflation according to indec you dont have an inflation problem, as for the rampant crime issue , they have a website.
http://www.lacampora.org/
Had a look at that.
Dec 20th, 2012 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a bunch of cultists!!
@28
Dec 20th, 2012 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Militarization of Argentinas brainwashed youth,starting at school!
like pied piper Adolf Crustina will continue to lead them over the edge, to the tune of her peronist lies and misinformation.....
no doubt end the same way as most insane cults!
Like Pirat-Hunter ALEX VARGAS, they “drank the Kool-aid”.
Dec 20th, 2012 - 11:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0LOL
but scary
Yeah I just had a look too at the Campora website. That is genuinely scary stuff. I felt a chill run through me. To me it is entirely comparable with The Hitler Youth of the early 30s.
Dec 20th, 2012 - 11:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@31
Dec 20th, 2012 - 11:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah, La Campora opened for business about 5 weeks ago a few blocks from my house. Tonight,.. UB Peronista (read I love CFK,) opens it's station tonight,..ACROSS the street from me. The brainwashing has begun. You'd have to be here to believe it. We have become Banana Republic.
Doesn't any side there use their mouth-motor to discuss small, slow, but cumulative solutions and take positive action?
Dec 21st, 2012 - 12:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0@33
Dec 21st, 2012 - 01:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0??
32 ptolemy (#)
Dec 21st, 2012 - 02:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dec 20th, 2012 - 11:52 pm
I feel very sorry for you, I imagine that the value of your property has fallen through the floor!!!!
La Campora tried to open a place in our town, but it only lasted for about two weeks and then misteriously decamped without paying the rent!!!!!
Whew what a day they had yesterday in Argentina!!
Dec 21st, 2012 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yet no comments from our Rg posters
Multiple country wide riots
National Police called out in several cities
Multiple deaths
Inflation expected at 3%/Month starting this month
Further devaluation of the Peso
Such a great place to live
I wonder why so many Rgs are fleeing to the north?
Yankeeboy.
Dec 22nd, 2012 - 02:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0No, it's all over. They took ProRG_Americans advice and sent in tanks equipped with flame throwers.
Mans a nut, no way is he a real Yank!
perhaps this was the mayans fault,
Dec 22nd, 2012 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Inflation, rampant crime, approx 100, 000 prtotest marchers in BA, widespread looting in Argrntine provincial cities. A paranoid self -obsessed government -there is something rotten in the state of Argentina.
Dec 24th, 2012 - 08:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Moyano is a scab, and he has a real cheeck to attack Cristina as an IMF stooge when she's being hammered for refusing to implement austerity. I don't think he'd be so steadfast if he got in, he's a Menemesque mafia man
Dec 24th, 2012 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@BK
Dec 25th, 2012 - 01:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Have you been away? Re-re-arrested??
I notice you are hitting every past thread, straining to put in some token post in favour of CFK.
If you think this will annoy us, you couldn't be more wrong.
It just shows what a mindless inept drone you are. All these threads are past the point of any meaningful discussion and you points, if any, have already been disproved and derided, earlier.
I ask you again, “do you get paid by the thread?”
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