Friday, December 21st 2012 - 04:54 UTC

UK Government will not allow Falkland Islanders’ human rights to be ignored

British Prime Minister David Cameron delivers his Christmas message to the people of the Falkland Islands: 2012 has been a memorable year for all of us. It’s been a year of happy celebrations but a year of more sober commemorations too. In London and Stanley, we celebrated the Diamond Jubilee, marking the 60th year of Her Majesty the Queen’s reign. The genuine and deep affection for Her Majesty both here and in the Falklands reminded us of the ties that bind us together.

PM Cameron said the coming Falklands referendum is true democracy in action and an opportunity to send a message to the world

It was an extraordinary summer in another respect too. The 2012 Olympics exceeded all our expectations. This was without doubt the greatest show on earth.

The world saw what the best of British talent, guts and ingenuity could produce. I was truly, truly proud of our country and I hope it looked as impressive 8,000 miles away as it did from here.

But June was also a time for some sombre reflection. It was a time to remember the conflict 30 years ago when your home was invaded by the Argentinean Junta and for remembering the 255 British servicemen and three Islanders who lost their lives. I know you, like me, will never forget the sacrifices they made. It would be appropriate too to remember those Argentines, mostly young men, pressed into service by their government, who also lost their lives.

Last month we sadly lost Sir Rex Hunt who played such a pivotal role during the invasion and following the Island’s liberation.

Sir Rex was the very best of British: a brave man and a dedicated public servant. He was also a close friend and passionate advocate of the Falkland Islands people. I know he will be much missed by all who knew him.

In June I had the privilege of speaking at the Falkland Islands Government’s Liberation Day reception. I was able to hear firsthand the stories of those directly involved in the conflict and to understand more about its lasting legacy. But, we didn’t just look back, we looked forward too and it’s testament to your efforts that the Falklands have prospered so well since those dark days of April 1982.

The progress you’ve made in shaping a positive future for the next generation of Falkland Islanders has been truly remarkable.

Now this year the Government officially renewed its partnership with the Overseas Territories, restating our commitment to help promote the territories social and economic development at a time of dramatic global challenges.

We want all the peoples of the Overseas Territories to be able to determine their own destiny and realise their aspirations.

But, I’m always conscious that you, the people of the Falkland Islands, continue to face a particular and direct challenge both to your economy and to your identity as Falkland Islanders.

President Kirchner’s Government appears determined to argue that you should have no say in how you are governed. They continue to misrepresent the history of your Islands and the current realities of life there. I’m pleased to see the Falkland Islanders working hard to correct these misrepresentations.

Indeed, it was particularly good to see a delegation of young Islanders travel to the United Nations in June to challenge President Kirchner directly. They were a great credit to you all.

It is a pity that Argentina persists in behaving this way. The UK would like to have a more positive relationship with the Government of Argentina. We are stepping up our engagement with Latin America more generally, and there are so many global issues we could work on together.

But, the British Government will not stand by and allow your human rights to be ignored. There is no justification for any country to try and deny you the right to democracy and self-determination. Nor to make attempts to isolate you, block your trade and undermine your legitimate fisheries, hydrocarbons and tourism industries.

Next year the Falkland Islands Government will hold a referendum on the political status of the Islands. I value deeply the UK’s relationship with the Falklands and hope it will long continue.

But it is not my decision, nor is it Argentina’s, it is yours and yours alone.

This referendum is true democracy in action, an opportunity to show the international community what you want for your future and to show it definitively. I hope all of you seize it.

In the meantime, Samantha and I would like to wish everyone on the Islands a very, very merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous New Year. (PN)


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1 Lord Ton (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 05:43 am Report abuse
Hurrah :-)
2 Anglotino (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 05:55 am Report abuse
And now to await the deluge of the misinformed, indoctrinated and lying!

Democracy is such an inconvenience for some countries and people.
3 reality check (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 05:57 am Report abuse
Well, this is going to set the cat amongst the pigeons. Very good speech, now lets see some action.
4 lsolde (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 07:26 am Report abuse
Halloo, malvinistas, wakey, wakey.
Haven't you got anything to say?
Must still be hungover from the celebrations on getting their flagship back.
5 reality check (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 07:35 am Report abuse
Yeah, someone give Christina an early call, she's gonna love this!
6 Britishbulldog (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 07:55 am Report abuse
Hello Argentine malcontents are you listening? Don't you wish that you could afford to do what we do??? Personally I would be content to see each and every Argentine rot in the crap that they are in and then laugh when the rest of South America walks right in and takes what is left.

Argentina can only look on in envy at what we did in the summer, just like they will look on in jealous envy when Brazil does the same four years from now. And in the meantime all the cruise ships that have been docking in Argentine ports bringing in much needed money will be bypassing Argentina and will be docking in other South American country's making them even richer.

Your going down the crap pan Argentina thats the price your going to pay for taking us on again and being the nasty bastards we all always knew you were.

Enjoy your Christmas with your meager food on the table that has cost you a fortune to buy Argentinians. Meanwhile the rest of us including our friends on those islands that you covet so much will look upon our tables laden with good cheer and toast to a job well done, and we will all look forward to next year where once again we will all laugh at Argentina's demise. Merry Christmas to all
7 reality check (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 08:09 am Report abuse
On a totally different subject. Anyone seen the news this morning.

Apparently Mr Julian ASSANGE came on to the balcony of the ECUADORIAN Emabassy last night, to deliver his Christmas Message!

His supporters sang, “Ho Come Let Us Adore him.”

Fuck me, an alternate Pope!

What a bunch of Anoraks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
8 jeffski (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 08:12 am Report abuse
Well said Dave. I think it's safe to say that he speaks for the whole of the UK in his excellent message to the FI, have a great Christmas Islanders and all the best for next year when you show the world you want to remain free and prosperous and no way wish to be colonised by a lying cheating un trust worthy nation like Argentina. UN will have to listen and back your wishes as stated in there charter for self determination.
9 Huntsman Extraordinaire (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 08:20 am Report abuse

Get everyone you can to sign this petition! It's nearly on the first page of the foreign office section now! Stand together and tell the government we want less words and we want a steel toe capped boot putting up the RGs backsides!
10 downunder (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 08:25 am Report abuse
#8 jeffski: I second your comments and wish the Falkland Islanders good wishes for the new year and your referendum on self determination.
11 jeffski (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 08:42 am Report abuse
@7. Yes the self appointed spokesman for free speech has spoken from his prison cell balcony ( prison of his own making I must add)

I still cant understand how anyone can still support this guy in any way, or could of in the first place, he and his cohorts at Wiki leaks have put many innocent lives at risk with there “leaks” and now he has been shown to be the lying little weasel of a man he really is. By avoiding going back to Sweden and clearing his name surly that is a sign of guilt!!

Just wish the fire alarms would mysteriously go off in the dead of night and weasel would be on the 545am flight out of Heathrow, Stockholm bound!!
12 Usurping Pirate (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 10:19 am Report abuse
Excellent speech by the Prime Minister ..... I hope they've reinforced the plate glass and doubled the number of fire extinguishers in our embassy in BA...
As the song says ,, “ I predict a riot ” .
Watch the police stand by and do nothing when it does occur .
13 emerald (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 10:40 am Report abuse
Cameron ??....which Cameron ??.....Ewen Cameron ???

hhmmm.....thats Dr.Ewen Cameron who was former head of the American Psychiatric Association,is one of many highly respected doctors who erased the personalities and manipulate the minds of thousands of unsuspected victims,while many in profession simply turned a blind eye.

Dr.Cameron began conducting unethical ,unscientific and inhuman brainwashing experiments in the 1930's...
Schizophrenic patient were forced to a lie naked in red light for eight hours a day for periods as long as eight months.......but Dr.Cameron technique resulted permanent and complete amnesia.
The project involved brutal ,at times lethal experiments on thousand of unsuspected citizens in direct defiance of law ,all ethical codes and basic human rights.

From January 1957 until September 1960 ..Dr.Cameron project received $ 64,242.44 in CIA funds.
14 Anbar (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 10:43 am Report abuse
Dose of reality for CFKs government & cronies:

As long as the UK supports the Islanders they will never be colonized by Argentina.

UNLESS the Islanders want that to happen.

The sooner that sinks in to the thick skulls of the hyper-aggressive CFK party apparatchiks the better: everything, literally everything, else is irrelevant and will get you nowhere.

So all these years of being mean spirited and aggressive attitude towards the Islanders has done, and will continue to do, you far, far more harm than good.

And if you had continued in good faith and pleasant, normalized democratic political partnership with the Islanders then you would already be getting a foot in the door.

You fail, and will continue to fail, because of your own attitude and intransigence.

FInally, and perhaps more importantly, the UN is warming up the fat lady and the lip-service you get from other LATAM countries has been shown to be just that: lip service.

Wake up to the reality of today's work where nobody is going to walk all over the rights of Islanders just because you wish it, nor will the wider world re-write history just because you wish it.
15 Brit Bob (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 11:08 am Report abuse

Absolutely spot on.

Who'd actually want to be part of a backward looking country that won't even produce accurate growth and inflation statistics and is likely to get thrown out of the G20 and IMF.

While South Amercia pays lip service to Argentina's false claims to the Falkland Islands, the rest of the World laughs.
16 Conqueror (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 11:11 am Report abuse
I can only echo the previous sentiments. To the Falkland Islanders: Please be assured that the people of Britain will ALWAYS step forward for you. There is no-one, nor any combination, that will change that. We are delighted that you have responded to the illegitimate invasion and occupation of your country 30 years ago by demonstrating to the whole of Latin America how a united people imbued with freedom, democracy and self-determination can progress so much more than their poor imitations. It is particularly good to see how your attacker, argieland, is sliding further into humiliation and disaster. We look forward to your clear statement, next year, of your intention to maintain that freedom, democracy and self-determination and provide an ever-greater contrast with the failures of South America. We wish you well in the use of your natural resources and are convinced that you will use them wisely for the benefit of all of you. At this time of the year, we wish all of you well, a merry Christmas and a happy and ever-more prosperous New Year!
17 slattzzz (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 11:22 am Report abuse
Happy chrimbo and a prosperous new year my friends. Rg's need not apply
18 Escoses Doido (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 12:06 pm Report abuse
Merry Christmas Falkland Islands.

Our hearts, and thoughts, are with you always.

Have a great ultide, and my very best wishes to all of you.
19 brucey-babe (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 12:13 pm Report abuse
@16 Conqueror.

Agree 100 % with you `Conk.`
20 Pirate Love (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 12:18 pm Report abuse
@16 amen!
@17 All the best! one and all...

Nobody knows for sure what The Falklanders democratic referendum will propose, so any attempt to illegitamize or disrupt this free and fair process is just plain dictatorship towards The Falklands population, their human rights and their destiny,

Any country/poster scared or dismissive of the outcome to this democratic referendum should ask themselves why?, after all if they were a democracy they would actively promote their own assumed freedom and liberty beliefs onto others, instead of oppression and malicious interference, until then such hypocritical countries cannot call themselves or be seen as a true DEMOCRACY :)

21 Islas Malvinas (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 12:38 pm Report abuse
Well said Mr Cameron! We all support British people´s right to self-determination in British territories! You are right.
But hold on a minute... you´re not suggesting the British to “self-determine” their future in Argentina, are you?
22 Bongo (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 01:00 pm Report abuse

He never suggested any such thing.
23 Islas Malvinas (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 01:05 pm Report abuse
@22 Oh, good! I though he was pretending British subjects to determine something in the Argentine Islas Malvinas.
24 A.J.Rimmer (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 01:32 pm Report abuse
Your an idiot. Period.

He is not “pretending” anything. He has correctly stated that the people of the islands, have the right to choose there own future. Not the UK, and certainly not their pesky noisy neighbours 300 miles away.

If you have a problem understanding this simple premis, then i suggest utilising Google Translate, this will enable you to translate the article into your choosen dialect, and hopefully you will then understand.
25 Shed-time (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 01:52 pm Report abuse
Deluded mullet-stroker's gonna stroke.
26 Britninja (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 01:54 pm Report abuse
@23 Shouldn't you be out looting a supermarket like the rest of the peasants?
27 reality check (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 02:00 pm Report abuse
Para ti y los tuyos y para todos los hispanohablantes que leen esto. Les deseo una muy Feliz Navidad ans un próspero Año Nuevo con el don de la paz para todos. Que tus problemas sean pocos y muchos de sus alegrías.
28 Shed-time (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 02:07 pm Report abuse
@27 Unlike poor people, I don't speak spanish. Can you translate?
29 Idlehands (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 02:19 pm Report abuse
He's just wishing everyone a merry christmas - nothing to get uppity about.
30 gustbury (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 03:00 pm Report abuse
Oh !!!!!!!!I'm crying of emotion!!! IDIOT
31 Escoses Doido (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 03:14 pm Report abuse
I want to get one of those translation machines they had in the movie 'Mars Attacks'

Ga, ga,......Gagagagagag ..... Ga, ga, ga.
32 Elena (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 03:18 pm Report abuse
27 Muy buen Mensaje :)

Happy december 21 XD
33 ProRG_American (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 03:19 pm Report abuse
Human Rights my ass. HAHAHAHAHA!
34 reality check (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 03:20 pm Report abuse
Accept you Guttyboy.

What have I read from you? “Suck my penis, hang from whats between my legs etc, etc.” You are the very epitomy of why a thousand young men, on both sides, never got to grow old and will not be sitting around their Christmas table with their children and grandchildren this christmas.

I was going to say, if I had a christmas wish, it would be, that one of those men could change places with you. Then I thought, no, why should I dishonour their memory. Every single one of them, Argentinian or Brit, was obviously a better man than you will ever be.

And just to prove that I am not that emotional, why don't you crawl back into your shell, you slimey scum bag.

Fuck, that made me feel good! seem to have lost all my christian charity to my fellow man, well perhaps not all.
35 Brit Bob (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 03:36 pm Report abuse

There is no such place as the 'Islas Malvinas'.

There is only, 'the Great Malvinas Lie.' And this is pure propaganda.
36 Idlehands (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 03:49 pm Report abuse
31 Escoses Doido

This is the best translator on the web that I know of:
37 Pirate Love (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 03:51 pm Report abuse
@33 your view to a peoples basic human rights is appaulingly predictable,
and highly irrelevant......

SELF-DETERMINATION.........base of true democracy!
38 Pugol-H (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 04:06 pm Report abuse
@31 Escoses Doido
Malvinero or gustbury can do that for you, both speak fluent gibberish, when think is pissed up, he speaks only in gibberish.

@ 35 Brit Bob
Isn’t it the mythical place they must go to commit mass suicide, for the spaceships to take their spirits to somewhere else.

Probably checking their Mayan calendars for the next end of the world date.
39 reality check (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 04:08 pm Report abuse

Your ass probably feels at home. Next to your brain!
40 Orbit (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 04:14 pm Report abuse
@37 - think its more a comprehension thing. DC used plain speaking diplomatic language so they wouldn't understand. Unless the speeches are child friendly, include emotion-laden terms such as pirates, thieves and vultures (oh, and heavily sweetened with nationalism) they can't comprehend, and think the grown ups are talking amongst themselves.
41 Elena (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 04:17 pm Report abuse
38 Sigh realy do you believe that? all that Apocalypse thing was made by ppl from everyplace in the world except Maya ppl :) who btw are tired of this nosense.
42 Pete Bog (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 04:23 pm Report abuse
“But hold on a minute... you´re not suggesting the British to “self-determine” their future in Argentina, are you?”

If you insist-Britain settled in Ushuaia before Argentina did -so if terra del Fuego voted to be British it would turn the place from an unemployment sh1thole to a prosperous small nation that could trade with the Falkland Islands.
And we'd let them keep all their culture and language too, and let them run their own government.


“Argentine Islas Malvinas.”

No such place exists, except in your dreams.....
43 Pirate Love (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 04:42 pm Report abuse
quick question has the world ended yet??? or is about too, ive just put spaghetti bol in microwave takes 20 mins have i got time? ,
i have 5 months left on xbox subscription can i get refund?,
does my car insurance cover the end of the world?
what will happen to my pension when the world ends?
who can i sue for the world ending and spoiling my christmas?
how did the mayans see the end of the world and not the end of their civilization?

I think I`ll just stick to my christmas plans either way the turkeys getting incinerated.
44 Elena (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 04:51 pm Report abuse
43 sweetheart, everything will be ok enjoy your christmas. That´s in reality the Maya message, now that crazzy thing about the end of the world is totally foreing to them. that concept doesn´t even exits in the Maya world, for them there are just cycles that succeed time after time :)
45 reality check (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 05:08 pm Report abuse
Shit! You all still there? can I come out from under this French mountain!
46 Orbit (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 05:16 pm Report abuse
Perhaps the CFK administration will enter a new cycle, and start asking themselves questions like “Why are we running this potentially great country into the ground for personal gain, based on outdated and flawed polictical philosophies?”. “Why are we at odds with practically every other country in the world, and why in particular are we harassing the Falkland Islands when all the inhabitants want is to live and prosper in peace?”

“We need to change our ways before it is too late!”

Hang on, scratch all that... I've just spotted I didn't take my medication at lunchtime, my posts could be somewhat off-centre.
47 reality check (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 05:23 pm Report abuse

Then again they may concern themselfs with an ever greater question.

Why does bird shit fall from the sky?

Some how, I think they will solve that one, before they ever solve the so called Falklands question!
48 andy65 (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 05:56 pm Report abuse
This is the REAL diplomatic language used not the ranting and raving by some middle aged spanish bird on the change of life,Mr Cameron is a trained lawyer not a pretend one like SS Hitler Kirchner thats why he always makes her look stupid when he takes the time to respond to her nationalistic ranting.
God bless The Falkland Islands and it's people The United Kingdom will always be with you.
49 Joe Bloggs (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 06:36 pm Report abuse
Thank you Mr Cameron and the UK and thank you to the Falklands supporters on Mercopress. We truly appreciate what you do for us despite the spin of a few bitter and twisted losers on here.

Merry Christmas and Happy New year to each and every one of you. That's me signing off until the New Year. To all you chronic bloggers: take a break and go and spend time with your friends and family before you ruin your health. LOL!
50 MrFlagpole (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 06:37 pm Report abuse
God save the Queen.
51 Joe Bloggs (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 06:38 pm Report abuse
Thank you Mr Cameron and the UK and thank you to the Falklands supporters on Mercopress. We truly appreciate what you do for us despite the spin of a few bitter and twisted losers on here.

Merry Christmas and Happy New year to each and every one of you. That's me signing off until the New Year. To all you chronic bloggers: take a break and go and spend time with your friends and family before you ruin your health. LOL!
52 reality check (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 06:48 pm Report abuse
Same to you. Have a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, be sure to pass on our festive wiushes to the rest of the Islanders. Christmas day, do me a favour, look outside and enjoy all you see. It's where you live and it always will be.
Merry Xmas.
Chris. Julie. Rebecca and Megan.
53 LightThink (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 06:54 pm Report abuse

Are you a “” Manchurian Candidate“” like Conqueror. ?
54 lsolde (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 07:03 pm Report abuse
Merry Christmas to all.
55 Joe Bloggs (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 07:10 pm Report abuse
52 reality check

Chris, a very special thanks. That was quite touching. I wish you and your family a very happy festive season and may your days start to get longer and sunnier as ours start to recede into darkness.
56 LightThink (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 07:13 pm Report abuse
You are squint or talking yourself.
Chris is at @54.
57 reality check (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 07:35 pm Report abuse
Give it a rest. We were exchanging Christmas Greetings on line.

If you care to accept them. I send the same greetings to you.
58 LightThink (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 07:43 pm Report abuse
no thanks..i am radical atheist.
59 reality check (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 08:00 pm Report abuse
Shit, you still one off those old fashioned people that still thinks Christmas is a Religious Festival?
60 GFace (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 08:06 pm Report abuse
Even heathen bad girl Ayn Rand gladly said Merry Christmas. And on that note, Merry Christmas. And Self-determining new year to us all.
61 Marcos Alejandro (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 08:09 pm Report abuse
“UK Government will not allow Chagossians’ human rights to be ignored”

About time.

27 reality check
62 LightThink (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 08:12 pm Report abuse

I am very atheist but i send my Christmas greeting to you all.
63 ChrisR (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 08:53 pm Report abuse
As a real atheist, I hope everyone has a good time in the next few days and that real progress can be made after the referendum.

My best wishes to all the reasonable people on this site of whatever nationality.

I hope you and your family are safe Simon68 from the coming riots which seem to be permeating the whole country.

And of course I have a few words for all the Malvanistas: there are STILL no Malvinas you Pratts!
64 reality check (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 08:57 pm Report abuse
Where have you been you little tinker, All is well I hope?

Su Bienvenida.
65 Conqueror (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 09:00 pm Report abuse
@21, 23 It seems I need to get down to your level before you understand. Sod off, tosspot! I pray every day that you will die in agony. Given the opportunity,n I will make sure you do. If I can find one coward amongst the other 41 million!
@30 Cry for your non-existent future, dogs' breath!
@33 I have a present for you and your ass. A double-length bayonet. Don't care whether you want it or not. But, if you choose, I can shove it down your throat. I have a hammer to make sure it goes all the way!
@39 Try not to use the word “Yank” in respect of faggots. “Yank” and “Limey” are, generally, friendly expressions between cousins. Please think of another word of opprobium for faggots, wherever they try to hide. We do need to work together to locate these scum and transport them halfway to their origins. Only fair. By air or by sea, let's see them “punch” a hole in the air.
@53 Sub-titles for you, twinky-lite. Try to remember that “Conqueror”, particularly HMS Conqueror, is a proud name. With reason. It sank Slutland's waughship with ease. And killed lots of latinos guilty of using air. Not content, that small vessel saw the rest of the lily-livered, gutless, coward “navy” scuttle out of sight. It won't happen again. Next time, cowards' lairs will be missiled until exterminated. “Happy” New Year, gutless.
@57 No reason for your existence or “life” then. You've always been pretty pointless. Being a faggot isn't a reason for existence. May you die soon and suffer in hellfire for the rest of eternity. Or, perhaps just cease. May the breath rattle in your throat and your bowels discharge. The stench will be a proper “marker”. Please let us know about your “end”. I really want to travel and crap in the cesspit of your disposal.
@61 Do you not keep up with the news, faggotface? The “Chaggosian” scroungers have LOST. They are going to have to something they've never done before if they want to survive. WORK!
66 reality check (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 09:03 pm Report abuse
Merry Xmas Conq!!!!!
67 Britworker (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 09:04 pm Report abuse
It's difficult to see where the Argentines can go with this next year, they seem to have tried just about everything and its made not a jot of difference. I do hope they don't continue with the economic blocks and actions violent thugs, you should always be gracious to your adversary in defeat and maintain your dignity.
I genuinely don't think they understand the British/Falklands animal. They attempt to deal with us in the same way they treat their tired and beleagered Iberian neighbours, all shouty and screamy, stamping feet and crying, me me me, mine, mine, mine, everybody feel sorry for us, everybody is against us.
None of that is going to wash with a cool anglo-saxon mentality.

Be interesting to see their next step.
68 reality check (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 09:08 pm Report abuse
They have made a very simplistic mistake, they looked across the sea and they saw 3000. Silly buggers should have looked just a little bit further and they would have seen the other 63 million!
69 lsolde (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 09:34 pm Report abuse
@65 Conqueror,
Merry Christmas from our family.
You have my younger kids in hysterics, even the girls!!!
Don't know where they get it from!
l'm such an even tempered person. lol lol.
Must be their Dad!
70 reality check (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 09:42 pm Report abuse
Merry Christmas love, to you and yours.
Chris, Julie, Rebecca and Megan.
71 Steve-33-uk (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 09:44 pm Report abuse
'Silversea Cruises cancels Falklands visits'

'Argentina complains to UK over Queen Elizabeth Land 'imperialism''

'Send world a message with referendum, David Cameron tells Falklands'
72 reality check (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 09:51 pm Report abuse
Damn a cruise ship cancelation to the Falklands and the IOU Libertad, nice Christnmas for ou RG posters.

Seems intimidation can pay off. sometimes.

Hope you fuckers enjoy your visits.
73 andy65 (#) Dec 21st, 2012 - 10:45 pm Report abuse
Have a merry looting Christmas to all our Argentine idiots on here may you steal all you wish from looted stores and that your botox Queen goes quickly to join her dead husband Nazi Nestor
74 Bongo (#) Dec 22nd, 2012 - 12:45 am Report abuse
@63 ChrisR,

You're a real atheist?

What's a fake atheist?
75 reality check (#) Dec 22nd, 2012 - 01:37 am Report abuse
Bongo thats easy!

An atheist is someone who is not afraid of dying.

A fake athiest says he is not afraid of dying, but really, he his.

Man! we could really have a philosophical debate on the subject!
76 Bongo (#) Dec 22nd, 2012 - 12:35 pm Report abuse
A real Malvinista is someone who genuinely believes Argentines will get the islands.

A fake Malvinista is someone who says Argentines will get the islands but knows, logically, they never will.

Definitely no debate there!
77 Escoses Doido (#) Dec 22nd, 2012 - 03:19 pm Report abuse
So by that, I take it we can compare 'real' malvinista to Theists?

(I am an Atheist/Humanist by the way)
78 mclayoscar (#) Dec 22nd, 2012 - 03:58 pm Report abuse
Sign up
79 ChrisR (#) Dec 22nd, 2012 - 04:16 pm Report abuse
@74 Bongo

See 75 reality check.

Death comes to us all, being a real atheist means you don't have to worry about God putting the 'fear of God' up you, or whether you are going to hell or not. Their is no God and neither is there a hell, just the end of everything, so make the best of what you have.

Being an atheist also means you don't have to listen to the lies of the Pope and all the rest of the deluded Christians, Islamists (same as Christian but with a real killing hang-up) Jewish Church (same as Christians but still waiting for the real Prophet) and every other failed creed that lays claim on you.

Remember that these three religions spang from the same source (originally Abraham) in the same area of the middle east desert albeit at different times due to Muslims not starting their hatred of everyone else until AD 622.

@77 Escoses Doido

As long as you are not a fake atheist, then being a humanist is fogiveable! :o)

BTW what is YOUR definition of a humanist?
80 Bongo (#) Dec 22nd, 2012 - 04:33 pm Report abuse
Oh I see, so being a “real atheist” means being a “dumb primate”.

Thanks for making that clear!
81 Steveu (#) Dec 22nd, 2012 - 04:37 pm Report abuse
Happy Christmas to all from this empirical agnostic!
82 ynsere (#) Dec 22nd, 2012 - 04:51 pm Report abuse
ChrisR @ 79
Chris, what a wonderful preacher you'd make! Why don't you set up an Atheist Pentacostal church in an old cinema? It might be a brilliant second career, and vastly more profitable than your first.
Happy whatever you want to call it, I've enjoyed our little exchanges on these forums (fora?). May your Uruguayan days continue with good health and happiness.
83 Think (#) Dec 22nd, 2012 - 07:43 pm Report abuse

Please sign this vital E-petition…
Created by: Chris Schofield / Number of signatures: 106,507
Ahhhhhh......... And dont forget to sign these too……:

Chuckle chuckle©
84 briton (#) Dec 22nd, 2012 - 07:43 pm Report abuse
what he meant was,

if this child keeps on being very naughty,
then we will have no choice but to spank her,

and the spannish,
85 ChrisR (#) Dec 22nd, 2012 - 08:24 pm Report abuse
82 ynsere

Thank you for the positive critique and best wishes, I do appreciate them.

I am not sure how I could make money however. American TV 'evangelists' turn themselves into very rich men by taking the poor suckers money ‘In Jesus’ Name’.

Doesn’t quite work ‘In nobody’s name’ does it? I think people are likey to see through that, though given the idiots who believe in the LITTERAL word of the bible perhaps you may be correct after all.

The thing is you see I am the ‘Christians’ worst enemy as far as they are concerned. I used to be the head server (not real heads) at the High Church my parents went to. I know the scriptures as well as most of them.

However once I started studying science and thinking for myself (11 Y/O) I soon realised that there are some real lies in both testaments.

Not only that but the whole regime of ‘beware the wrath of God’ and ‘you are a sinner from the day you were born’ didn’t quite sit with ‘God loves you’.

I think it is a truism that throughout history, monarchs, governments, and politicians of all parties have used religion as a tool for controlling the masses. TMBOA continues to do that even now, though I do not see how her thievery fits in with any faith.

I really find it amusing that people like Bongo still fall for the ‘Old Lies’, but that is their lookout.

BTW, I subscribe to the Oxford Dictionaries: forum plural is forums. Fora is correct if you want to base it on Latin, but as Latin is the language of the RC Church, I’ll give it a miss. :o)

80 Bongo

Given this post I am happy to give you the lead in being dumb, I think you deserve the accolade.
86 briton (#) Dec 22nd, 2012 - 08:34 pm Report abuse
To be truthful,
I wondered if any south American would still be alive today,

So the Mayans were wrong,
Millions of disappointed people in the world,

At least what’s left can enjoy the festive season,
87 Alexei (#) Dec 22nd, 2012 - 08:49 pm Report abuse
I hope Cameron means every word of this, and isn't as much of a wet lettuce and apologist as he usually appears, even though it's unnerving to find oneself agreeing with him.

One thing can be said for certain about the Falkland Islands, and their aggressive neighbour, they unite the British people, English, Scots, Welsh and the others, with very very few exceptions. I would sincerely advise any aggressively enthusiastic neo-Malvinistas to remember this. We will not be a pushover (as you might remember), and we can hit back very very hard too.

Here's a little tip: Try giving something, and stop complaining and demanding. We'll like you a whole lot more, you'll get more and we'll all be happier. Anyway, let's hope you can avoid any more unpleasantness, a very happy December 22nd (avoidance of the apocalypse day, we really should make this an annual event), a merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all.
88 lsolde (#) Dec 22nd, 2012 - 09:30 pm Report abuse
Your precious petition didn't get many signatures, Think! ho ho ho.
Thats the sort of sneaky petition that you would make up.
So you can forget about it, you're not getting South Georgia or anything else.
But good marks for trying!
Happy New Year.♥
89 Escoses Doido (#) Dec 22nd, 2012 - 10:09 pm Report abuse
@79 chrisR,
I am me.

I guess I can be called an atheist, becouse I am not a Theist. I do not believe in a god(s).

Whatever, humanist? Atheist? as far as I can see they can describe the same king of 'free thinkng' mind.

I'm not a fake either. I've been in many life threatening situs in my life, and despite having been raised by a born again Pentecostal Minister (my Mother)

I have never stooped sp low as to have god enter my thoughts at the moment of danger.

Last time this happened was just a couple of months ago, whe I was car-jacked/abducted in Brasil, with a gun pushed in to the back of my head, and the knowlage that these guys normaly kill you regardless, - I could only THINK of how to make the equation of dividing two Brasilian armed robbers, and one Scotsman, - And still having one Scotsman left over.

No thoughts of any god entered my mind, - So, no, I'm deffinately a real Non-Theist.
90 emerald (#) Dec 23rd, 2012 - 10:10 am Report abuse
Si vis pacem,para bellum....

If you wish for peace ,prepare for war. ....
91 Think (#) Dec 23rd, 2012 - 10:19 am Report abuse
(89) Escoses Doido

You say
“...... I was car-jacked/abducted in Brasil, with a gun pushed in to the back of my head, and the knowlage that these guys normaly kill you regardless, - I could only THINK of how to make the equation of dividing two Brasilian armed robbers, and one Scotsman, - And still having one Scotsman left over.”

I say:
You must be a good “THINKER”...
The Scotsman seems to have survived............. Thank God for that ;-)

How did it go?
Were you “lucky”............ or did you use Mr. ChrisR method?
He is the fastest Super-British Expat Pensioner in Latinamerica you know?
He could...: ”Cut your throat on the fly with his razor sharp flick-knife, that would be back in his pocket before you have finished dying ……”
Don’t you believe me?
Check him out….:

What a psycho.......
92 Escoses Doido (#) Dec 23rd, 2012 - 12:12 pm Report abuse
@91 Think:

Bit of both really. The one behind me was not able to exit quickly due to the doors being in child-lock mode. (my kids were there, saw what happened by the way)

That coupled with their greed, and I presume not wanting to ruin the car's re-sale potential by decorating the interior with my cerebral matter.
93 Think (#) Dec 23rd, 2012 - 12:52 pm Report abuse
(92) Escoses Doido

Anyhow...... Good that your brain-mass is still in place and working ....

Hope you are not one of those “Persons” that let some traumatic experience on any certain geographical location of the World, taint their opinion about everybody and everything on that certain place…….

We have in here at MercoPress a perfect example of the above in a poster calling himself “Yankeeboy”........

Apparently, he was robbed his gold Rolex in Buenos Aires some years ago and that has marked him so deeply that he hates everything Argentinean…..

(To the point of publicly rejoicing, on these very pages, over the death by carbon monoxide suffocation of some indigent Argentineans during the last cold spell in Buenos Aires….)

Needless to say, as a human and an Argentinean, I somehow disrespect such kind of “persons”…..

Kind Regars
El Think
Chubut, Argentina.
94 ChrisR (#) Dec 23rd, 2012 - 01:51 pm Report abuse
93 I Don't Think' aka The Turnip In Chief

Back on the old laugh a minute at others expense then?

Well I would rue the day if I ever became a 'friend' of yours (if you have any friends).

Bitter and twisted old man, way over pensionable age but won't say just how old he is.

Trusting in God! Ha, ha, ha. Even if there is a God, with your track record it will be Old Diablo himself who will have you. I take it you are an RC, so not even Purgatory for you: straight to the fires of hell with demons, etc gnawing on your knackers for all eternity. Ha, ha, ha, what a pleasant sight.

Well, sorry to disappoint you but I love Uruguay, even my Argentinean next door neighbours who will be here next week until the end of February. I bet your neighbours don’t even speak to you, do they?

And I have all my money invested in Uruguay, but I bet what pittance you are left with stays under the bed, safe from the Policia of Chubuts ‘help-myself programme' eh?

But don’t forget, be careful with those knives! If you want you can have one of mine free of charge as long as you promise to cut both carotid arteries with it, OR, I could even do it for you and fast-track you to Diablo! Now that’s an offer you can’t refuse, at least it would put you out of your misery and cheer the rest of us up.
95 Think (#) Dec 23rd, 2012 - 02:17 pm Report abuse
(92) Escocês Doido

Post (94) corroborates my previous warnings about English “Mr. ChrisR”….................... doesn't it?
What a psycho.....

I mentioned above “Mr. Yankeeboy”, another Anglo, desperate for attention, I wouldn't waste any time discussing with.............
Here, a link of his latest rant against Argentina...:

Another poster I wouldn’t waste my time with, if I were you, is English “Mr. Conqueror”…….....
He hates Argentineans, all right…..
Well…. He hates all Dagos in general…..
But he seems to hate Scots even more…………….., specially “Crazy Scots”.
Don’t you believe me?
Try him! ;-)))
96 ChrisR (#) Dec 23rd, 2012 - 04:37 pm Report abuse
Escocês Doido

Please, please take heed of what I Don't Think says or you will end up crazy, you Crazy Scot!

ALL of the Brits are nuts according to The Turnip In Chief and you will see why he says this if you continue to post on here.

It has something to do with all of us seeing through his lies and obfuscation but I am sure you can make your own mind up. :o)
97 briton (#) Dec 23rd, 2012 - 07:18 pm Report abuse
Merry Xmas to the British Falklands,
And all British territories,
And may the new year bring more dictators down.
98 shb (#) Dec 24th, 2012 - 09:46 am Report abuse
@83 Thinkless

I liked the epetition suggesting surrendering the Falklanders to you - 5 people had signed up to it...............

Shows the massive support that there is in the UK for the likes of Galloway and the “Guardianista” gang in real terms does'nt it. You are'nt going to get a collapse, are you, think.

Ho Ho Ho............

Merry Christmass........not.

Meanwhile - happy christmas to everyone on our side.
99 andy65 (#) Dec 24th, 2012 - 10:04 am Report abuse
What a great year to be British
100 lsolde (#) Dec 24th, 2012 - 10:30 am Report abuse
@98 shb,
For all we know, Chief Squatting Turnip(i.e. Think)could have started those petitions himself.
Especially that one which offers to “give” South Georgia to Argentina if they'll drop their ridiculous “claims” for the Falklands.
Not likely guv'nor.
Try again, Think.
l've got a better idea. We'll drop our claims to Sta Cruz province if you give us Chubut.
lt makes as much sense.
Merry Christmas all.
101 Doveoverdover (#) Dec 24th, 2012 - 11:10 am Report abuse
“Peace in the South Atlantic, offer Aregntina South Georgia in return for their dropping their claims to the Falklands”

The briefest of research shows that this proposal, complete with misspelling of Argentina, is the work of a Liberal Democrat party member and elected British politician (OK, local Councillor).

Having outed him as Think, the least you could do is email Councillor Cardy and ask him to deny it.
102 British_Kirchnerist (#) Dec 24th, 2012 - 11:48 am Report abuse
Cristina would not allow the Falklanders human rights to be ignored under her leadership either =)
103 ChrisR (#) Dec 24th, 2012 - 02:06 pm Report abuse

Dumb comment.

How come TMBOA tramples over the human rights in Argentina, and thieves their money, and berates those who did not vote for her.

The President is supposed to represent the PEOPLE of AG, not a Nazi mob, headed by her son.
104 lsolde (#) Dec 24th, 2012 - 10:01 pm Report abuse
@101 DoD,
Why don't you let Think speak for himself?
Jumped straight into the breach, didn't we?
Think's representative at large! l won't say in the UK, as there seems to be doubt in some peoples' minds as to where you actually live.
l said, “for all we know”, not it is fact.
What makes you think that giving SG to Argentina would ensure peace in the South Atlantic?
They would never be satisfied with SG.
And what a handy base for them to mount further attacks against the Falklands & other British possessions.
lt smacks of Danegeld to me & we all know how that turned out.
You, as a supposed Briton are either with us or against us.
Make you position clear & get off the fence.
Otherwise you will be classified as a malvinista.
lt may be a game to you, if indeed you are British, but its a deadly serious situation for us.
Anything(or anyone)who encourages the Argentines in their empire-building, at our expense should be surgically removed(like a malignant tumour).
Read into that what you will.
105 andy65 (#) Dec 24th, 2012 - 10:56 pm Report abuse
@British_Kirchnerist Just Argentines human rights she could not give a rats ass about.
106 reality check (#) Dec 24th, 2012 - 11:23 pm Report abuse
What's the problem. Self Determination end of.
107 briton (#) Dec 24th, 2012 - 11:46 pm Report abuse
we have a better idea,

offer them sod all, give em sod all, and tell em sod all.

if CFK wishes to live in cuckoo land it up to her,
if her indocrinated followers want to follow her, its up to them,

for who then really is the fools,
CFK who says it,

or those who follow her..
108 Pete Bog (#) Dec 24th, 2012 - 11:52 pm Report abuse
”offer Aregntina South Georgia in return for their dropping their claims to the Falklands”

The Argentine claim for South Georgia because it is the next stop from the FI is less valid than if the UK/Falkland Islands were to claim Terra del Fuego as it was settled with British pioneers from UK and born Falkland Islanders before Argentinians reached the area.

It is more valid, as no-one from South America has ever has a population living on South Georgia, apart from the military occupation in 1982, which didn't last long.

The fact is people from Argentina were not for a long time stopped from workingand settling in the Falkland Islands , ie the 150 gauchos who worked for Lafone in the 1850s. The fact is that most preferrred the climate nearer to BA as the South is too cold for their liking.

It is worth remembering that not every emigrant from the UK has always hacked the conditions, hence the relatively low population.
109 briton (#) Dec 25th, 2012 - 12:19 am Report abuse
we wonder what CFK would actualy do,

if in the new year, [just for the hell of it]

put in a claim to the UN ,

stating that the falklands wishes to lay claim to,

Terra del Fuego and patagonia ??

surles it would be worth it, if only to see CFK jump up and down pulling her hair out lol.
110 Troy Tempest (#) Dec 25th, 2012 - 01:29 am Report abuse
@104 Isolde

”You, as a supposed Briton are either with us or against us.
Make you position clear & get off the fence.
Otherwise you will be classified as a malvinista.
lt may be a game to you, if indeed you are British, but its a deadly serious situation for us.
Anything(or anyone)who encourages the Argentines in their empire-building, at our expense should be surgically removed(like a malignant tumour).“

Ha ha, Isolde!
”Dame Dover“ has already declared that Christmas is ” all humbug”.
I see him as either a miserable old curmudgeon, or
a miserable old Argentine curmudgeon propagandist.

Either way, it doesn't matter what he is, he won't be happy unless he is unhappy and others are more unhappy than him.

Oddly, that's logical for a malignant sod like him.
111 shb (#) Dec 25th, 2012 - 08:03 am Report abuse
@102 BK

If you think CFK really cares about the rights of the Falklanders, then you are a complete plonker.

I'm pretty sure that life under the Argentine jackboot would be very unpleasant to the Falklanders.

Even if the more extreme elements in Argentina did'nt get to ethnically cleanse the place by forced deportation, then they would spend every day having their noses rubbed in Argentinas' triumph and be forced to endure occupation by a hostile power that considers them to be less than second class people.

What a success that would be for you....

The liberals are utter pratts, and weak as P*** so I'm not surprised they advocate giving away land that Argentina really has no claim to. Don't vote for them.

The Falklands remains free despite idiots who want to kowtow to the enemy.

I don't believe in danegeld or apeasement, happy christmas and a happy new year to everyone way down south in the Falklands. May you remain free forever.
112 Troy Tempest (#) Dec 25th, 2012 - 09:31 am Report abuse
BK has said that he makes extreme statements on this forum solely for the enjoyment he gets from positing people off.

He has no interest in a real discussion of issues.
113 andy65 (#) Dec 25th, 2012 - 04:18 pm Report abuse
Happy Christmas Crissy and Maximo shame you weren't invited.
114 emerald (#) Dec 25th, 2012 - 06:38 pm Report abuse
*106* reality check

your comments are not attractive when you use “ ElaineB” name. !
115 Nostrolldamus The 5th (#) Dec 25th, 2012 - 07:06 pm Report abuse
The UK is an utter frieking disaster, economically and most importantly in its internal socio-cultural situation, and this maybe the next to last “UK address” anyway, Dave. Why would Argentina want any relations with a country that is on the watch list of extinction as soon as 2014?
116 shb (#) Dec 25th, 2012 - 10:01 pm Report abuse
@troy tempest.

I must have missed his explantation - I'm not surprised though. I'll just ignore him in future.

@115 - that post just made me laugh. Taken a good look at the internal situation in Argentina recently. No matter how bad the recession has hit us - that country is goung down the pan, fast..............
117 Nostrolldamus The 5th (#) Dec 25th, 2012 - 10:43 pm Report abuse

If it makes you feel better... Schadenfreude is dismal enough as consolation... Schadenfreude based on a myth is tenfold the worse.
118 Anglotino (#) Dec 26th, 2012 - 01:59 am Report abuse
@115 NT5

I'm not sure why the UK is on some sort of extinction watch list. Are you claiming that the UK will cease to exist if the Kingdom of Scotland regains independence?

Is that just because of the name? UNITED KINGDOM of Great Britain and Northern Ireland? What if they changed their name to just UNITED KINGDOM of Britain and Northern Ireland? Or maybe just Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Or even Kingdom of England. Does a name change denote a cessation of existence?

If Scotland doesn't deny the rest the right as a successor state (think about who the Quen of Scotland is) then nothing changes.
119 shb (#) Dec 26th, 2012 - 10:08 am Report abuse
@117 YAWN

Yadda yadda yadda....

The problem with your country is denying that it has a problem. I've already posted what I think about that.
120 andy65 (#) Dec 26th, 2012 - 02:01 pm Report abuse
@shb , What these Argentines do not mention (they probably have not got the intelligance to know) is that Argentina has dropped from 20 to 26 in the world GDP rankings,what a shame while UK is about to jump to 6th place
121 Anglotino (#) Dec 26th, 2012 - 07:20 pm Report abuse
Actually in nominally terms using the market exchange rate it has dropped to 30th or 31st.
122 British_Kirchnerist (#) Dec 27th, 2012 - 02:43 pm Report abuse
#112 “BK has said that he makes extreme statements on this forum solely for the enjoyment he gets from positing people off”

Occasionally, (and I've actually toned the “Queen Cristina” stuff down now the jubilee is over), but #102 was definately not one of them. Its the heart of my honest case. Take it or leave it, I believe all the evidence supports it...
123 ChrisR (#) Dec 27th, 2012 - 04:43 pm Report abuse

If you REALLY believe that I suggest that you seek psychiatric help as soon as possible.

Believing in the humanist side of TMBOA is akin to Christians believing in God / Jesus and the life thereafter, without a shred of evidence to support it.
124 downunder (#) Dec 28th, 2012 - 07:15 am Report abuse
Nostrolldamus The (whatever): “Why would Argentina want any relations with a country that is on the watch list of extinction as soon as 2014?”
Quite right Carlos, quite right. What would a bunch of card carrying losers from the arse end of history possibly gain from an association with a real country like the United Kingdom?
By the way, verbose, pompous and inaccurate writings do not make lucid, sensible arguments. The mere fact that you consider it necessary to rephrase your writings using simpler English (“in other words”) demonstrates that you do not have much confidence in what you are trying to say. (It also insults those who bother to read your work). So if you have nothing to say – don’t clutter up the comments section with crap! There’s a good chap.
125 shb (#) Dec 28th, 2012 - 01:06 pm Report abuse

Bloody hell - some good news for blighty! I just went and verified what you posted and it gets better.....

There is a chance we could move up to 5th place - the French are very worried about us leaving them behind and them falling to 9th place in a couple of years.

Not bad for a country about to become extinct......................

Put that in your pipe and smoke it Argies.


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