Cristina Fernandez targets UK ‘threats’ to keep escalating the Falklands’ dispute
Argentine president Cristina Kirchner targeted the UK for “threatening” to come “to militarize and invade our Malvinas Islands” following the announcement that an additional 150 British soldiers are been sent to the Falklands and PM David Cameron recent warnings on support of the Islands.
“We are at a very particular historic moment where Argentina once again in under attack from the ‘vulture’ funds and from others, 12.000 kilometres away that are threatening to come to militarize and invade our Malvinas Islands”, underlined the Argentine president during her speech at the welcome ceremony for the frigate ARA Libertad in Mar del Plata Wednesday evening.
According to a piece from the Nottingham Post, 150 members of B Company of the 2nd Mercian Battalion will be on a routine two-month tour of duty in the Falklands on daily patrols “against any threat from Argentina”
Apparently a small number of soldiers have already arrived on the Islands but the majority of the soldiers will take the 18-hour flight to the Falklands in the next two weeks. A mixture of ranks will work with comrades from other British Army units as well as RAF and Royal Navy personnel who are based at the Falklands.
“Their role will be to undertake regular patrols protecting key locations across the Falklands as well as training in heavy arms and small arms” according to comments from a military spokesperson who added an ‘educational element’ to the tour.
”There is also an educational element to the tour with the soldiers learning about the history of the issues in relation to past conflicts“.
Earlier in the week PM David Cameron said it was up to the Islanders to decide on their future and if they wished to remain British, and if so vowed to fight to keep the Falklands in the face of mounting Argentine pressure. He insisted British resolve was ”extremely strong“ and pointed out fast jets and troops are stationed on the Falklands.
The statements from Cameron followed on Cristina Fernandez claims accusing Britain of colonialism and demanded the Falklands were handed back to Argentina.
In an open letter published as an advert in the Guardian she said Argentina was forcibly stripped of the Malvinas in ”a blatant exercise of 19th-century colonialism”.
Tension on the Falklands/Malvinas dispute is expected to keep mounting not only because January 2013 is the 180 symbolic anniversary of the alleged ‘stripping’ but mainly because the Falklands are holding next March a referendum with international observers, to decide on their status and future.
This has infuriated Argentina that insists the dispute is bilateral (UK/Argentina) while for Britain it is trilateral with the most important issue the self determination of the people from the Falklands, which must be respected.
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What does a broken record sound like?
Still, this was a tub thumping exercise from the loony leader of a dysfunctional country. I suppose this was almost reserved compared to what she could have said.
Easy now!! Those 150 extra soldiers ( wow ) did the Nottingham EVENING post mention that they were a crack new unit, able to operate without support, behind enemy lines and capable of taking over countries with just their swiss army knifes??
2 Anglotino
Does she even know what a broken record is?????
So she's stressing the fact that sometimes, when pushed, she'll do what's legally obliged of her?? That's big of her, cue shitloads of banks rushing to lend her cash now, what a dick.
mmmmmmm I can see where this is going......
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-20966460
Our fighter pilots must be sh1tting themselves.
Surely there must be some argentinos who are permitted to raise their criticisms!
WOW!!! is that all of their airforce???
Was KFC's son at the controls?
Is that why it was flying so low??
The rest of the world's government must be p!ssing themselves laughing at Argentina right now. “Oh look thevBritish are sending 150 soldiers to replace another 150 soldiers on a routine deployment, and Argentina are sh!tting themselves. Ooh 150 British soldiers keeping the entire armed forces of Argentina at bay.”
No wonder CFK and her government are considered weak by the ret of the worlds leaders (including her good buddy Chavez).
It's priceless. Cristina, the give that keeps giving! LOL
Is it possible to invade something you already own and control! LOL - I don't think she thought that through.....
Anyway, this is just CFK playing the nationalistic card to try to prop up her failed government.
WTF the military have been on the islands in strength for 30+ years, and why is that!! Because these lying two faced debt ridden scoundrels can't be trusted never ever ever. They are the ones who illegally invaded and ignored a UN binding resolution. God this woman is fucking thick.
Self determination.
@10 what it does not show you is the police had to cordon off 2 protesting groups from each other, the applauding peronist militants “K” was organized by no other than the INDEC director Norberto Itzcovich actually leaving from the INDEC building and shipped by coach no less, that figures INDEC not only supplies its government with bogus inflation figures but doubles as a rent a yob agency too. Classy!
The independent is reporting that the Argentines are attempting to turn a humiliating embarrassing incident into a triumphant celebration. What a embarrassment this woman and her inept government are. Argies you do relise how stupid you look.
photos.mercurynews.com/2013/01/09/argentina-ship-release-ghana/
That's all you need when holidaying, old turtle neck spouting off about today being a lesson in history....the woman's off her trolly.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc2y_khwyUE
The battalion returned from the latest tour in Afghan June 2012. A six month tour in the Falklands should be a nice rest for B Company's battle hardened soldiers.
let her continue to bore people outside Argentina into not giving a toss.
www.miamiherald.com/2013/01/09/3174970/argentinas-leader-populist-but.html
There are several instances in history where leaders have become victims of their own propaganda.
Still, I suppose that on the INDEC scale of mathematical moronicness then this is just about fesiable.
Her unstable behaviour can only be put down to the closest men in her life who have stood by her, have chosen death as the more attractive option, rather than spend one more day in her company.
Breast fed “maximo” next, my guess poisoning? :)
If she really believes any intelligent person any where in the world believes that the British have invaded the Falklands about 180 times since 1982 she is absolutely potty.
The comedy and the let's-keep-my-head-buried-up-my-ass continues.
Her speech appeals to the non-intelligent. Less brain cells than a Pot Noodle beyond its sell-by date. (Apologies to Pot Noodles everywhere).
Still it is a great win for the Spin Doctors, to loose all that money flying back hundreds of sailors from Ghana and to leave the Argentine coast undefended by Libertad for all those weeks.
The woman is bonkers, her policy is misguided, her foreign affairs operatives are useless, she is losing ground inexorably on their false Falklands claim.
Give her a new mandate now........pleeeeeeease.
I hope her plastic nose collapses and she suffocates in her sleep.
“ProRG_American” replied,
“Won't happen. Mar Del Plata is filled with tourists that just want to get away from it all. No protests.”, :))) Oh dear! check the link, it did happen.
Anti-Peronist PROTESTS at Libertad arrival!!!!
www.clarin.com/politica/Corridas-insultos-sectores-oficialistas-caceroleros_0_844715558.html&usg=ALkJrhglDQEzadK3goCmrAkxE3iVQL3OjA
@31 bitty! horrible thought :), but more disturbing whos breast feeding who? :))))
The UK threatens to invade the Falklands. I though i'd seen it all.
“ProRG_American” replied,
“Won't happen. Mar Del Plata is filled with tourists that just want to get away from it all. No protests.”, :))) Oh dear! check the link, it did happen.
Anti-Peronist PROTESTS at Libertad arrival!!!!
www.clarin.com/politica/Corridas-insultos-sectores-oficialistas-caceroleros_0_844715558.html&usg=ALkJrhglDQEzadK3goCmrAkxE3iVQL3OjA
@31 bitty! horrible thought :), but more disturbing whos breast feeding who? :))))
Argentina inflation running at > 30%
7.12 pesos to the Dollar (historic high)
www.dolarblue.net/
If she was a horse she would be put down!
I've got a feeling it was from the Princess of Wales Royal Regiment, but they might have been the deterrent before last, as we militarize the Falklands on such a regular basis...
“which african dictator is CFK the reincarnation of?”
I mean, Mugabe is still alive, so it can't really be him.
Idi Amin only died in 2003, this bint likely started her decline into megalomaniacal insanity long before then.
Likewise Laurent Kabila, he only died in 2001.
Personally I think the personality most likely to have taken control of her brain is Fransisco Nguema, late president-for-life of Equatorial Guinea. Equatorial Guinea was an ex-Spanish Colony (hmmm? I wonder who else used to be owned by spain?).
He had the usual post-colonial mindset of blind hatred for anything associated with “the west” or “europe” (which in this case involved modern medicine and electricity), and used this concept to essentially destroy the national infrastructure (sounds familiar eh?).
He had his own workers party, his own personal militia (La Campora, anyone?). He instituted total control of the press (Clarin?).
Under his regime, EG became known as “the Dachau of africa”. Quite a lot of SS men and concentration camp guards ended up in Argentina after the war, ironic eh?
So yeah, he died in 1979, I bet if you look at CFK's medical records you can see evidence of her mental state starting to deteriorate around this time...
:)
So what you are saying is that Argentina is absolutely terrified of 1,200 British Military personnel, who won't do anything unless Argentina is stupid enough to attack the Falklands?
My, my, what a terribles weak and feeble country Argentina must be to always be so afraid of someone who takes no notice of you 99% of the time, and 1% of the time reminds you that they are still there and not to try something stupid.
Pathetic, gustbury, you must be so proud come from a country full of cowards.
But then again, you don't actually speak for the Argentine people, do you? Just the Nazi elite, who can barely string a sentence together let alone think for themselves.
The majority of Argentines would, I think, not be afraid of the British troops on the Falklands, as they know they would not act aggressively towards Argentina.
The rest of South America are p!ssing themselves laughing at how weak and pathetic your president sounds.
Tell me, have Uruguay 'sighted' any more nuclear subs off their coast? That was a funny trick the Uruguayan government played on Argentina last year, wasn't it.
Tell your deluded President that they had spotted a British sub, then sit back with their feet up and some popcorn and watch the show as your president panics and starts screeching at the top of her voice.
Face it, your beloved President has made Argentina the butt of everyone else's joke. The rest of the world see Argentina as a joke run by a bunch of clowns.
The Falkland Islands have NEVER been Argentine, so it impossible for someone to be born there to be Argentine, unless they emigrate to Argentina. No the Islanders are NOT Argentine and never will be. They are Falkland Islanders AND British.
You don't have to be born in a place to have that nationality, but knowing the standard of education in Argentina, I doubt you know or can even understand that. Just like flying a pregnant woman out to the antarctic to give birth doesn't make the antarctic Argentine. In fact by your argument, that baby should be British, as the British claim predates Argentina's by more than 40 years. So the birthplace of that child should probably read “Queen Elizabeth Land”. :)))
By the way, gustbury, are you still scared that those nasty 150 British soldiers are going to invade and take over Argentina? Are you wetting yourself with fear.
Pathetic, just like your President.
question:
is The UK attacking or has stated it is attacking Argentina?
Answer: NO, yet you call the UK aggressors, please explain, as all The Uk has ever stated is that it will DEFEND the Falklands.
which leads me to the main question, if You call The UK aggressors for defending their people from any attack then what would a backward retard call argentinas blatant act of unprovoked war in 1982??
and how would you explain argentinas defence mincers outburst that if it wasnt for the UK armed forces stationed in The Falklands, Argentina would already have invaded The Falklands?, clearly colonizing against the islanders wishes, justifying every right to routinely station and rotate a defence force for the protection of the islands.
SELF-DETERMINATION, :)) The end game.....
I don't know how the Rgs do it.
It is a weird combination of NPD and delusions of grandeur and how so many people in the same country have it is beyond comprehension.
51@ I'm Malvinist NOT Kirchnerist,my cause is malvinas.
52@stop playing play station.idiot!!!
54@Last night I wet your sister!!!!!
MALVINAS ARGENTINAS,I SUGGEST TAKING SPANISH LESSONS SOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm quite convinced that the most comedic thing that the Falkland Islanders could do would be to make a fleet of Dummy Subs (properly weighted oil drums fitted with a battery powered engine and a fake periscope (aka a broom handle) that they can set off in fleets, so that the Uruguayans can actually see dozens of “British Subs” to tell the Argentinians about...
“MALVINAS ARGENTINAS,I SUGGEST TAKING SPANISH LESSONS SOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”, I totally agree, as its painfully clear that Falkland experise will be highly sort after in Argentina once they have gone tits up and economic and social structures have collapsed, and come crying to The Falkland government for help, im sure they will be more than happy to come over and help the backward needy, its neighbourly, great idea though gustbury have you anymore? or are you still having “sexy time” with your sister?
I don't need to know spainish but it would seem you felt you needed to learn English.....
64@you do not exist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
61@ I can say and write many words in English and German!! and you? asshole!!
It's sort of like punching someone in the head and then taking them to court when you break your hand isn't it.
@Gustbury
Fantasie all you like mate the Falklands have never belonged to Argentina and never will. You wet his sister?
“54@Last night I wet your sister!!!!!”
Now I'm all for cultural sensitivity, but what the hell does gustbury get up to when he isn't online here?
Golden showers anyone? I'm rethinking my holiday in Argentina.
To bad they aren't in the right order to make the sentence understandable.
One of the reasons I don't write in Spanish is because I would probably sound as stupid as these idiots.
I can speak and write in Japanese although I am not fluent BUT I speak English, why would I need to learn another language when everyone whose of any importance speaks English anyway?
“Bla Bla Bla” you are starting to dribble! medication time!
you do realise you have to have a mental age of 18 or over on this website?
does your mother know you have skipped pre-school?
“I can say and write many words in English and German”, obviously you need another language, i guess that is what passes as superior intelligence in argentina to claim to have another language, dont think that will get you into MENSA maybe a job in a UK takeaway.
All this great Argentine overwhelming intelligence yet their country in such a shit state they have to try to bring in expertise as they dont have enough engineers as they are all in foreign takeaways earning peanuts learning swear words in english, yeah sounds like a typical argentine plan :)))))
I wonder if they realise it makes them seem very childish?
See what I mean!
Hahahaha
retard
BCRA said the peso will be depreciated another 18-20% in 2013!!!
Psst, I bet it is more.
Remember 36% is a generalized/blended inflation rate, so the 160% their taxes went up, or the 50% that the gas went up or the 60% sugar that went up or or or or... all those ors could make someones individual inflation rate much much much higher than the 36% everyone is expecting.
Me thinks Crissy will be sneaking a 0 on the bills sometime very shortly.
ARGENTINA ALWAYS THE VICTIM
Crissy confirms it in another of her rants
@gustbury, Any normal person would be ashamed of a leader like yours she truly is a nutter.
remember the story “The boy who cried wolf”?
You are something that doesn't exist? Huh?
You 'wet' my sister?????
That doesn't make any sense, but any of my sisters would easily beat you to a pulp with one hand tied behind their backs.
You see my sisters like men, real men, not little cry babies who p!ss themselves with fear everytime someone mentions the British Armed Forces.
Perhaps one day you will be a man, but it's very doubtful judging by the quality of your posts. Argentine women must be really depressed if your the best on offer. Maybe they'd want the British to invade Argentina, so they can see what real men actually are.
Why get rid of her? She's done more to promote the Falkland Islanders claim to self-determination than anyone else has.
I mean after her lunatic actions, not sane person in the world would allow Argentina control of the islands. Not only that, but her easily disproved BLATANT lies, show the world the real truth about Argentine colonial ambitions.
Quite frankly she is a joke, and while she is in power the only people with anything to fear from her are Argentine citizens.
If c. f. k., and her husband ex president nestor kirchner thought that the solution to the conflict must be militar, they would use part of the huge economic growth, in order to militarize the country more and more, however, it didn't happen in absolut.
Respecting the debate about the right to self determination, it must be said that the u. n has never included the govt. from the islands as a third part, all the resolutions just asked arg. and the u. k. to resume the negotiations, to find a peaceful solution.
Anyway, beyond what the u. n. manifests, i have always thought that our govt. should include also the govt. from the islands in the proposal of dialogue that it asks the u. k.
In the case of the u. k. and the islanders, both have never accepted to discusss about the sovereignty, which is the main problem.
Both should realise once and for all that dicussing about the sovereignty, doesn't implicate in absolut a total cession of sovereignty to arg., however, it's not imposible to find a solution that respects the wishes of the islanders, and the rights of arg., like what c. f. k expessesed before the u. n., when she read a secret document from our chancery of 1974, which was being discussed between both govt.
Accepted or not, the three parts of the conflict aren't acting correctly.
Given Argentinas past record of NEVER sticking to an agreement, why should the British trust Argentina when you say you won't invade? Only last year your defence minister said that the ONLY thing stopping Argentina from invading the Falklands was the British Garrison stationed there.
I know that the Argentine government hopes that the British are as stupid and gullible as mindless thugs that support them, but we have a saying in Britain: “Once bitten, twice shy.”
We trusted Argentina not to invade our Islands once, and it cost nearly 1,000 people their lives, most of them were Argentinian.
When you say “Both should realise once and for all that dicussing about the sovereignty, doesn't implicate in absolut a total cession of sovereignty to arg., however, it's not imposible to find a solution that respects the wishes of the islanders, and the rights of arg.” you make some incorrect assumptions.
1. The Argentine constitution states that NOTHING LESS than TOTAL sovereignty over the Islands is acceptable to you.
2. The Islanders wish to remain British and free from Argentine interference, although they have OFFERED to talk to Argentina regarding cooperation in issues of mutual benefit. The Argentine government has REFUSED to talk to them.
3. Argentina has NO rights over the Falkland Islands. The Falkland Islands community dates to the 1820's, their descendants live on the Islands today. The Republic of Argentina didn't exist until 1853. Prior to this you were no a country, just a group of not-so-United Provinces, which eventually dis-united into Argentina and Uruguay.
4. The UN Charter states that all people have the right to determine their own future and allegiance. That trumps all the lies that Argentina has been telling yourselves and the world since 1965.
5. Argentina BROKE all UNGA resolutions by invading the Islands in 1982, meaning that the UK is under no obligation to speak to Argentina about anything, unless the Falkland Islanders wish us to.
As for the UN saying that the Islanders are not part of the formula for discussions, that's just yet another reason to dissolve C24 -- they have more delusions of being a Great White (or Great Blue) father than the so called colonialists they cite to keep their racket going. In any case, the UK has every right to come to the table, introduce the FIG then sit in the back row, open up their laptops and spend what will be a very short negotiation looking at pictures of cats saying silly things. (And they will be able to brag about being the most productive people in the room.)
You are discussing a NON-binding UN Resolution from 1965, based on their understanding if the situation at that time.
It is now 50 years later. Much has changed in that period of time.
Not least, your military invasion of the Falklands, occupation of those lands, subjugation and internment of the civilian population, and deportation (eviction) of those you considered politically outspoken, and therefore, 'undesirable'.
That certainly was contrary to the spirit of the UN Resolution. You disregarded it, entirely.
Since the British liberated the Falkland Island inhabitants and returned them to their homes, they have become a self-governing population of Falkland Islanders, a people with 200 years of history on those islands, exclusive of Argentine society or culture, except as it suits them.
Argentina is now waging a war of economics, propaganda, and politics, with the declared aim of taking the Fslklands, but still, disregarding the people who live there and have built their homes and community there for 200 years.
UK, has very clearly stated to CFK that the FI people, themselves have to power to negotiate freely with Argentina, and only them.
The Falklanders have invited Argentina to discuss the future of the Islands.
Negotiations have to start somewhere. Some kind of 'dialogue' as you put it, is required first, but CFK does not even answer them.
Foul ball, on your side of the net, Argentina.
Ho hum, but you know all this anyway - you're just posturing.
Do you remember me telling you this would happen?
Your buying power is 1/2 of what it was 2 years ago against the U$.
I hope you never plan to leave your country those days are long gone and if you are in your 30s will probably never come again.
Why don't you focus your energy on getting someone elected that isn't going to rob you blind and ruin your country. Instead of fretting about something that will never ever happen.
Jan 10th, 2013 - 03:55 pm
I must beg to differ with your point #2 where you say: “The Argentine government has REFUSED to talk to them.”
I'm sorry to say that our so-called “government” hasn't REFUSED to talk to the FIG, it hasn't even deigned to ADMIT TO RECIEVING the letter offering to start talks!!!!!
In order to “negotiate a peaceful solution”, Argentina has to offer something, because the UK and the islanders are perfectly happy with today's solution.
So, here is my opening gambit:
I want:
1) Argentina to immediately withdraw all claims to the Falkland Islands, south Georgia and the South Sandwich islands
2) I want the Argentine government to admit that the claims were made up in order to unite the populous against a common foe in times of economic strife.
3) I want the government of Argentina to immediately make it mandatory that all Argentine schoolchildren are taught both the true history of the Falklands, and the disgusting use of propoganda to indoctrinate them for generations.
4) I want the Argentine population to immediately withdraw from Patagonia and return it as a homeland for Ameriindians, fully funded by central Argentine Government.
As I understand it, you wish for:
1) all current Falkland Islanders to leave
2) the Islands to become a province of Argentina.
So, Let's negotiate...We will stay as we are shall we?
I doubt many Argentines would like to live of the windy, rainy, cold rock!
I do remember that Hilary Clinton ordered a physiatric report on her cos she tought she was mental, i couldnt agree more!
It seems to me she has taken the death of Nestor very badly by continuing on this rather embarrassing path and trying to fulfill his dream
I wish she would stop going on about a non-binding 1965 UN resolution, after all that is void considering Argentina didnt abide by resolutions to get out of the islands!
I am the only one who would love to phone her up and say “ Listen you stupid bitch, STFU, you dont own the Islands and never have”
Its a bit like my neighbour coming around and insisting that my car is infact his, these claims are absurd in the extreme!
An illegal usurption of Amerindian Land by a colonial power, resulting in the removal of the indigenous (via genocide).
Puts the removal of a handful of rapists, mutnieering murders who had only been on the islands a few weeks into perspective.
Ibet they are already cutting the dies to foist on the world!
My bet is they will mint a new coin or put it on a banknote.
The way the economy is going, they are going to need some higher numbered currency soon, so it's the perfect excuse to print some more propaganda.
Can you please explain your claim to the Islands? I have done what checking I can and im being honest with you, i really dont understand why Argentina is claiming them. Im all ears, really.
You mean you got your cock out and some woman laughed so much she cried.
God knows, but to be honest i think her constant and insane claims to islands is sending the rest of the world to sleep!
Fact is the rest of the world doesnt really give a shite, the islands are not really important on the world stage, and i dont think anyone swallows the colonial nonsense either! Coming form a former colony is laughable!
I think Evita has to be first because she was a real whore.
Given TMBOA preponderance to fuck everything up she has to be an amateur!
Mind you, the mental picture of what that would mean she is up to is just too much!
“huge militarization of the south atlantic”
Don't be so gullible.
There is much, much more military hardware over the Andes pointing at Argentina, yet CFK doesn't get all upset about it. Think about that.
The Falklands is just an easy, cheap button to press with the RG public, that is all...and the funny thing is, it works every time. She presses that button and gustbury pisses himself.
Don't you think those sailors have suffered enough? ;)
Condorito.
Be fare now, after all, those 150 infantrymen are armed with Nuclear Rifles!
Right Christine I here you want to talk about the Falklands and to see if we can come to some arrangement.
Your so kind Mr Britishbulldog your the first person to talk to me about it.
No worry's me old darling now lets get down to business. what have you in mind?
How about if I offer you a nice wad of money thats what we usually do in my Capital?
What your trying to bribe me with wads of money.
Yes whats wrong with that?
Well nothing really but you don't have any.
Well whats that got to do with it? I can always owe you the money cant I?
Owe me the money owe me the money I will never get it I will have to impound one of your tiny ships to try and get it?
I know but thats how we do business down here, I bribe you and you give me what I want.
Sheeesh.
So Mr Britishbulldog do we have a deal.
No “fuck of woman” I only came to see if it was true.
Whats true?
To see for myself If you had all that plastic surgery they said you have had.
Hijo de puta, hijo de puta cabrón gilipollas pirata Inglés de un inglés, voy a tener los cojones voy a matar a todos, tu esposa, tus hijos, tus nietos, tu madre, tu padre, tu madre, esposas, esposas de su padre, su perro , su gato, su budgi, sus sus flores en el jardín, la persona que vive al lado de usted, su esposa, sus hijos, su budgi. VOY A MATAR A TODOS bastardo.
Er was it something I said Christine? why all the hostility all of a sudden. All I said was that I only came to see if it was true about your surgery cant we all be friends?
Te odio Britishbulldog. Te odio con una pasión, odio a todo el mundo
Dear me Christine, it will be a good day when you don't have to go through that time of month that all you women have.
bastardo te habré asesinado a tiros
OK I know when I have outstayed my welcome don't ever come back and say we British did not want to talk about the Falklands.
.
@57 What's a “Malvinist”? Is it like being a believer in Oz? Don't have a “playstation”. Is that some sort of console game for morons?
@65 Then why did you answer? Moron!
@67 Couldn't get that from an argie, could she?
@83 You don't exist, slug. Now ooze away!
@88 You don't get any brighter, do you? Argieland hasn't had any “economic growth” since the Kirchners bought their way in. It's why you have so many debts. The government of the Islands can't be “officially” included. They are not UN members. Yet. There will be NO discussions and NO negotiations on sovereignty until the Islanders wish it. Based on the available evidence, it isn't worth you raising the matter again until the year 3000. How can we put this? Argieland should shut up and fuck off. It's wasting its time! As are you.
@95 Not enough. Under “wants” you should have listed
5) A minimum £1 million payment to every Falkland Islander who was on the Falklands in 1982;
6) A minimum £1 million payment to every Islander that has been on the Islands during current “sanctions”;
7) A £2 million payment to the relatives of every Islander that has died between April 1982 and the current date;
8) Full reparations to the British government for the invasion, the occupation, the war and minefield clearance, estimated at £20 billion plus.
@101 Aww, Simon, never mind. Do you live where there are no malvinistas? Are they a dying breed? Do you wish they were? Would you like to help them to be? Have you thought of becoming a “caped crusader”? After all, if CFK can be a pirate whore, why shouldn't you be what you want?
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/9792338/Cristina-Kirchner-hits-out-at-those-who-want-to-invade-Falklands.html
Amusing video on this one too...
'The company that leased the plane to London route covers Cristina - Falklands'
www.clarin.com/politica/alquilo-Cristina-cubre-Londres-Malvinas_0_844715579.html
'Amid the diplomatic crisis, football Falkland Islands survives'
espn.estadao.com.br/post/302634_em-meio-a-crise-diplomatica-futebol-nas-ilhas-malvinas-sobrevive
“Argieland should shut up and fuck off” it is as simple as that isnt it!, fuck off Argentina!
www.miamiherald.com/2013/01/09/3174970/argentinas-leader-populist-but.html
They will be looking at www.catsthatlooklikehitler.com , it always makes me smile.
I think it was when he said that if it wasn't for the British military in the Falklands they would already have invaded them.
yet the only thing required to know is,
the falklands are british,
still,
she can always stop talking, and try again..
Better we keep the forces numbers higher when such threats are made then be caught napping As was the case in 1982.
This time the Islanders are not going to be so easily wooed by their neighbour and no longer trust them because of the events of the past.
Argentina has only one outcome it wants in any type of talks with Britain and that is complete sovereignty nothing less will do. However there is a third party in this issue that the Argentines also do not recognise and that is the Islanders, The very people that live there. People who settled these Islands through pioneering activities not as the Argentine people done by murdering their way into someone else’s homeland.
Why even today we here of indigenous people being murdered in Argentina so what has changed that would make any Falkland islander want to suck up to them.
Argentina has nothing to offer us but hardship which they already bestow upon their own people. We are doing very well for ourselves thank you very much and while once we openly offered our hand of friendship this will not be so readily available to the Argentine powers so long as they refuse to recognise us as a people with humane rights to determine their own future.
LOL!!! I keep getting a mental image of the FIG at the negotiation table, telling KFC / TMBOA et al to stick it, while William Hague is at the back of the room showing Laughing Boy Timerman “The Hamster Dance”!!!
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/9794967/Helmand-veterans-dispatched-to-defend-Falklands.html
www.clarin.com/politica/empresa-alquilo-Cristina-contratos-Malvinas_0_845315515.html
I wonder how TMBOA will respond to that! LOL
What the Daily Telegraph fails to mention (in their attempt to wind up the Argentine government even more) is that about 90% of the British Armed Forces are now 'Helmand' veterans.
So all future deployments for the next 10 years or so, will have mucho Helmand veterans deployed.
Should be interesting. :)
She'll be asking Britain for asylum next ......
I wonder if she'll get impeached for breaking the laws that she herself put in place?
The federal government, the provincial and municipal governments may not contract with individuals or corporations, domestic or foreign, its subsidiaries or shareholders who directly or indirectly develop oil and gas activities on the Continental Shelf Argentina without obtaining clearances for exploration and exploitation of hydrocarbons emitted from competent authority Argentina.
Gustbury, I have seen you. You look like the retarted son of Satan.
The queen would cut your head off with her Knighting sword, and leave your severed head for the buzzards, on a spike outside Buckingham Palace.
Now run along and re-educate yourself on the history of the Falklands. They are in the BA archives.
Happy reading.
CFK is THAT little old lady! Here overhead carryon is the supply of botox she requires, and her pills (which she never takes) are for her mental illness. ;)
@130 - Gustbury
Oh we're not upset. Your post didn't make any sense in English (perhaps something was lost in translation). We just like pointing out that when you resort to insults you have already lost the discussion, and if you give insults you have to expect them back, no need for you to get upset.
We have a saying; if you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen.
This means, if you don't like being insulted then don't insult others.
By the way, are you still scared of the 150 British troops who are arriving on the Islands on a routine deployment, to replace another 150 troops who are returning to the UK after completing THEIR routine deployment?
I mean if we are removing 150 troops, doesn't that mean we're 'demilitarising' the South Atlantic?
I do feel sorry for you...no wait...no I don't! People like you are what's wrong with Argentina, and why; despite having loads of natural resources; you will remain a poor, third rate country.
Argentina has SERIOUS problems, and it requires SERIOUS people to solve them.
Both you, your government and your beloved CFK fail on all counts, more interested in diverting people's attention away from the problems facing Argentina than actually DEALING with them and doing SOMETHING to solve them.
Even if Argentina magically got the Falklands tomorrow all your problems would still be there, and your government would suddenly start trouble with: Paraguay, Uruguay, Brazil or Chile: over some mythical land dispute where you are the 'victims' of an evil plot by your 'backstabbing' South American 'brothers'.
But still your government wouldn't face the problems.
The Falklands aren't going anywhere; however, Argentina is going...going down the toilet at rapid rate, and CFK has her hand on the flush, and is tugging relentlessly.
Read the following link:
www.pagina12.com.ar/diario/elpais/1-211350-2013-01-07.html
The National Government repudiated the “militaristic threats” made by the Prime Minister of Britain, David Cameron, who said he was “ready to fight” to maintain colonial rule over the Falkland Islands. The Foreign Ministry issued a statement calling on the Prime Minister to “stop using legitimate and peaceful demands” made by Argentina in international forums “to continue supporting the arms industry, rather than alleviate crisis experiencing social Europe ”.
The response of the Palacio San Martín Britain insists that meets demand “the obligation to accept the resolutions of the United Nations to resolve the matter peacefully Falklands”.
“The aggressiveness of the words of British Prime Minister confirm the complaint filed by the Republic of Argentina to the United Nations about the militarization of the South Atlantic and the possible presence of nuclear weapons introduced by the colonial power,” said Foreign Ministry.
During an interview with the BBC, Cameron said it was “absolutely essential to have jets and troops stationed in the islands,” and stressed that his country “is one of five defense budgets in the world.”
Therefore, the portfolio of Minister Héctor Timerman order British Prime Minister “not use legitimate and peaceful demands” that Argentina was “against the usurpation of part of our territory and against colonialism as an excuse to continue to support the industry of weapons instead of alleviating social crisis currently affecting Europe. ”
contact:
face1354@hotmail.com
God you're getting boring now. Same old posts.
Yawn.
another pathetic link.
nothing belonging to Argentina has been usurped.
there have been no threats made against Argentina.
Argentina has a greater social crisis than Europe.
Jan 11th, 2013 - 05:24 pm
“...David Cameron, who said he was “ready to fight” to maintain colonial rule over the Falkland Islands...”
You are a liar, Raúl, David Cameron did not say anything about “colonial rule”, niether in the BBC interview nor in the article you linked in Página/12!!!!!!!!
For example, Britain is ready to kill every argie that thinks the sovereignty of the Falkland Islands can be changed by a third-rate, third-world nonentity. Not what you said.
When any latino cesspit can demonstrate Britain's legitimate obligations under non-binding UNGA resolutions, let us know.
As neither Latin America nor South America “owns” the international waters of the South Atlantic, you might want to consider how British vessels sailing in international waters could be criticised. Not that we care.
Given that argieland is a demonstrably belligerent, larcenous, mendacious, war-mongering slime-pit of war criminals, defence is essential.
There is only one individual that “orders” a British Prime Minister. The British Sovereign. A brainless arse-licker from a third-rate, third-world cess-pit isn't even close. Argie faggots,often with names like Raul, may aspire to the level of shit-swallowers. But it is more likely that they will provide suitable facilities for ball-stomping, hanging targets for darts matches, cleaver practice, experience with junior hackshaws and provision of replacement (smaller) billiard balls, nut-cracking practice and where to shove suitable (sharpened) parts of iron railings. Are you a Hitler bend-over boy? Or will anyone do? Not me of course. But how do you feel about a fishing rod? Or the real excitement of the barrel of a double-barrelled shotgun as the triggers are pulled? Bet you'd love it. Not only would you get REAL penetration, but you'd get your cock blasted off as well! What more could you ask?
www.abc.net.au/environment/articles/2011/12/13/3389001.htm
axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_64333.shtml
PS ask yourself why we have strong defences on the Falklands (there are no Malvinas)..........I'll fookin tell you 1982 !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Are you so thick that you have not noticed that your posts are pointless and are treated as a joke
Do not fool the people of the islands. One day the islands will be integrated back to Argentina.
It will be the largest British community in the country.
Our destinies are linked.
Sorry Pascoe and Pepper.
Malvinas, verdad histórica:
por
Carlos F. Brescacin
www.malvinense.com.ar/smalvi/2013/Malvinas_verdad_historica.pdf
www.ushuaianoticias.com/noticias/leer/11640-gobierno-permitio-amarre-de-buques-ingleses.html
'Falklands Redux: Is President Kirchner South America's Biggest Troll?'
www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/01/falklands-redux-is-president-kirchner-south-americas-biggest-troll/267067/
'Argentina: Hedge funds to blame for woes'
www.upi.com/Top_News/Special/2013/01/11/Argentina-Hedge-funds-to-blame-for-woes/UPI-98601357912952/
'The company that leased the plane to the President has contracts in Falklands'
www.lanacion.com.ar/1544803-la-empresa-que-le-alquilo-el-avion-a-la-presidenta-tiene-contratos-en-malvinas
Perhaps you might tell us all why your beloved leader The Botox Queen SS Hitler Kirchner had a public argument with a Argentine actor on HER Facebook Page recently when he dared to ask her why she had gained so many millions of dollors since becoming president and perhaps you could shine a light on Kirchners Sudden Wealth????
Cameron's Sick stuff from Pirates!!!! you do not forget it!!
So kooky it's almost endearing.
So I loved his two links. The first one was for my country:
www.abc.net.au/environment/articles/2011/12/13/3389001.htm
This article shows how a competent country with little corruption, independent judiciary, stable institutions and a boring government operates. I'll also throw in wealthy with high growth and low inflation.
No heroic speeches by Gillard. Just getting the job done.
It is everything that Argentina could also be without people like CFK ruining it.
Funnily enough, Australia's management of its waters is similar to Falkland's management. I hope they too start burning and sinking any illegal boats from their neighbouring country.
As for the second article, I highly recommend it. axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_64333.shtml
The gist of the article is:
* Argentina is weak and keeps complaining but no one listens
* Britain is very strong both militarily and economically and can afford to ignore Argentina
* Argentina is effectively broke and can't upgrade its military though it relies on importing arms from Britain
*Britain is so rich it can afford to keep upgrading its military and is unassailable by any regional powers in this area.
Now I'm not sure why Pirat-Hunter keeps posting this link considering how devastating it is regarding Argentina's military weakness.
It also accuses Argentina of not taking the case to the ICJ. Which is the same thing asked by many Falkland Islanders and Britons on here.
But the best quote was this:
“Argentina’s claim to sovereignty has yet to be formally recognised”
I'm laughing so hard be sure Pirat-Hinter is continually pasting an article that admits Argentina doesn't have sovereignty over the islands.
Oh and the best part? Pirat-Hunter can't reply to this post or even comment on what I have written because he doesn't talk or reply to homosexuals. Can't have him reading the rantings of a gay man now can we.
But it's so much fun!!!! And he can't reply to me..... LMAO..... ever because I'm a poof.
Thanks slatzzzz. I'm in the middle of Melbourne but still it is dominating our news and thoughts. Our federal opposition leader (also born in UK) is also a volunteer firie and our pollies really pull together. No heroic posters or rambling ranting speeches. Which is why Argentina was once similar to us but is no longer.
rendezvous.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/08/flag-protest-reignites-northern-ireland-strife/
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo0BNYGgEV4
HAhahahah poor deluded ex empire so alone,so bankrupt so hopeless...
When you use the word DELUDED then please associate it rightly to the person and country it truly belongs to Cristina Kirchner and Argentina two far more worthy candidates.
Investors = vultures. ok......., whatever.........
All today's discussion begins January 3, 1833.
They need a military base because they can not discuss the legitimate sovereign rights of the Republic of Argentina.
It would be a very short discussion because Argentina has no legitimate sovereign rights.
Oh, so I get it. The argentine Government were just trying to discuss their legitimate sovereign rights in April 1982 when they landed 1000s of armed troops on the islands.
Posts like yours and the news of multiple cruise-line withdrawals from Argentina are helping me with my otherwise poor sense of humour.
Chuckle chuckle
No the Argentine invasion in 1982 was a direct result of the fact that your government had fecked up the economy and were desperately trying to divert the attention of the Argentine public.
You can't have a 'direct' result after more than 100 years. You just make yourself look foolish, just like all your erroneous claims of sovereignty.
Answer this then. In 1850 the Argentine government didn't believe that the Falklands belonged to them.
In fact, Argentina didn't start trying to claim sovereignty of the islands until 1941. That is a gap of 91 years. Sovereignty claims lapse if they are not constantly mentioned, and they certainly do if it is not mentioned AT ALL within 50 years.
So Argentina allowed the sovereignty claim to lapse (such as it was).
Face it in the 21st century only the UN Charter matters. It clearly states that all people have the right to determine their own future.
Argentina may refuse to acknowledge that the Falklanders are people with the same rights as the other 7 billion people on the planet, but the rest of the world doesn't share your views.
Every year that goes by strengthens the Falklanders claim and rights - after all they and their ancestors have lived on the Islands longer than the Republic of Argentina has existed (big mistake there isn't it? No wonder your government won't go to the ICJ, because that's your 1st stumbling block). Argentina's rhetoric is getting old, and every country, and I mean every country, can see your government and their every increasingly bizarre claims, for what they are.
Pathetic. Desperate. Weak.
No the Argentine invasion in 1982 was a direct result of the fact that your government had fecked up the economy and were desperately trying to divert the attention of the Argentine public
Anyway who cares nazi tatcher did the same thing.An economy horrible then and worse now.The reality uk is FINISHED.....Bye bye pirates,time to pay now...uk will be destroyed,no question about it Who cares of a killer nation...uk is FINISHED!
businessmirror.com.ph/index.php/features/global-eye/7561-30-years-after-war-britain-battles-argentina-over-cruise-ships-at-falklands
I think you need to check the state of your country if you want to see who is finished. Moreover it is YOUR country, who is the “killer nation”. Just check how many indigenous natives your colonial fathers managed to eradicate.
Argentina will indeed be destroyed, no doubt about it, if it try's to pick another fight with the UK. Who cares of a killer nation....Argentina is FINISHED!
I agree with you, ALL land in South America that was usurped by colonialists since January 1833 should be returned to the rightful owners I.e. the indigenous people.
This would not include the Falkland Islands, as there is no indigenous people, no civilians were expelled, blah blah for the 100th time.
however, it would ABSOLUTELY include Patagonia, where a colonialist power (Argentina) used military agression, murdering an indigenous population to expand their territory.
So, when Argentina returns its borders to those of January 3rd 1833, perhaps we might chat about Onslow...and you'd still be wrong.
but at least you'd be wrong and not a huge hypocrit.
Who do you think you are kidding Mrs Kirchner?
If you think we're on the run,
We are the boys who will stop your little game.
We are the boys who will make you think again.
'Cus who do you think you are kidding Mrs Kirchner?
If you think old England's done?
Mr. Brown goes off to town
On the 8:21.
But he comes home each evening
And he's ready with his gun.
So watch out Mrs. Kirchner
You have met your match in us.
If you think you can push us
We're afraid you've missed the bus.
so who do you think you are kidding Mrs Kirchner?
If you think old England's done.
They are doomed I tell you. doomed!
Don't tell him your name, Pike!
Ach so Pike, your name vill also go down in the book.
Keep it up Falklands1, we all enjoy a good laugh!
Don't panic! Don't panic!
LOL!
I bet TMBOA wished she looked like Helga (Kim Hartman)!
I still come over a bit funny when I think of the fish-net stockings and suspender belt!
The Germans were always beaten because they were portrayed as stupid and arrogant, just like TMBOA herself.
Yup.
Pathetic. Desperate. Weak.
It must be so frustrating to know that is how the rest of the world views Argentina.
Soon, even the Falklands 'Myth' won't save your inept government and even more inept President.
A weak President, who spends all her time attacking anyone who doesn't agree with her. Latest is the Argentina actor who had the temerity to ask CFK just when hand how she had amassed her millions of US DOLLARS!!!
If you weren't so ignorant, that is the question YOU and EVERY other Argentine citizen should be asking.
“Hey, Cristina. Just WHERE did you get all that money?”
She won't answer though. Why? Because she got that money by stealing it from the people of Argentina.
And people like you are so ignorant and stupid, as to be taken in by her use of the Falklands 'Myth', that you don't notice her stuffing her off-shore accounts with YOUR money.
Pathetic. Desperate. WEAK.
I have read your document in full. To be honest, it's undermined by the tangents you go off on, and the style is reminiscent of that used by your president - undermine all critics by attacking them, just as the first paragraph of the announcement that they were contracting a British company to provide a jet for the forthcoming tour by attacking Murdoch. All colonial countries did things in the 19th century and 20th century that wouldn't be acceptable today, Argentina included. I don't see what the relevance of the welsh areas of Patagonia, as they are not British. You would find more argentines back living in Europe, using their dual nationality in Spain and Italy. That doesn't make any of those places argentine? By the way, Jewett was a pirate - otherwise the US wouldn't have interviewed. Only 4 civilians left in 1833, as is in the documents in you national archives, and whether you like it or not, in spite of all your prior claims, the peace treaty of 1850 was tacit acceptance of British sovereignty that really makes all the other treaties and such that you mention before completely irrelevant as it is the most recent treaty between the countries. If it was a mistake for Roca to sign it, that may be the case, but that is life, it is never fair. Ask the indigenous people's of South America who were either wiped out or repressed by the European colonisation of the continent.
The problem lies within Argentina's education system and how it teaches untruths to their youth. The next Argentine President will probably have just the same views as CFK towards this issue.
Deep down the problem lies with the fact that they got a bloody nose, and don't like it, don't like it one bit at all, and want revenge. The fact that they started the issue is irrelevant, it's more of a Latino pride thing.
Read and weep trolls
@147 Why would anybody want to translate argie lies into a proper language? Is it beyond you? Is it axel_arg's drivel?
@152 Can we be sick on you? We haven't forgotten how to do that.
@162 We am home, massa. All of us. Some of us be at home in Britain. Some of us be at home in Falklands. Some of us be at home in other places. When be time you going “home”, vargarse?
@165 Just following argie examples. 1982. Argie “troops” couldn't stop shitting themselves. 24 hours a day. Every day!
@168 The cesspit has no rights, legitimate or otherwise. But we're prepared to offer you technology. Nuclear technology. You'll need to be quick before it goes off. Don't push your minimal luck another millimetre. We're getting pissed off now!
@172 Wow! My large fully paid-for house, my large fully paid-for executive car, my tens of thousands of £s in various accounts are all illusions. If this is the UK when it's finished, I can hardly wait for the recovery. Perhaps I'll fly over in my executive jet and drop you a present. What might it be? Bang or splat?
I disagree with what was done by the military government, but protests 150 years seems a short time?
@ 171 “No the Argentine invasion in 1982 was a direct result of the fact that your government had fecked up the economy and were desperately trying to divert the attention of the Argentine public.”
Also true.
“In fact, Argentina didn't start trying to claim sovereignty of the islands until 1941. That is a gap of 91 years. Sovereignty claims lapse if they are not constantly mentioned, and they certainly do if it is not mentioned AT ALL within 50 years.”
False, Argentina made several protests before and after 1850 and 1941.
“Every year that goes by strengthens the Falklanders claim and rights - after all they and their ancestors have lived on the Islands longer than the Republic of Argentina has existed”
A British big lie. So, who protested Lord Palmerston in 1829 if Argentina did not exist?
Then, the flag of that country gave Onslow to Pinedo, if Argentina did not exist?
Ancestors. They came to the islands in 1845 is to say approximately after usurpation. Therefore, says the islanders there before that Argentina is a big lie and I'm sure many islanders know.
regards.
March 1st 1833, Charles Dawin and Capt. Fitzry arrive in HMS Beagle. Darwin records the make-up of the remaining settlers in his diary, ” …The present inhabitants consist of one Englishman, who has resided here for some years, & has now the charge of the British flag, 20 Spaniards & three women, two of whom are negresses.”
As a Uruguayan and what you dub a “Latino”, I have to agree with you say about the mass brain-washing of Argentines for generations. I hope future Argentine governments will handle the Falklands issue in a more intelligent manner and deal directly with the Falklanders, but I fear there will always be an ember to blow on when internal problems arise.
Regarding your comments on “Latino” pride, please note that in South America, Argentines are considered prouder and more arrogant than any other nationality.
So, Argentina made several protests about the Falklands between 1850 and 1941. I take it that you mean official protests through diplomatic channels to the British government, or indeed during the presidential address at the state opening of congress. So, be more specific - please provide details of how and when. As you seem to have done your research, I guess this won't be much of a problem?
Mate don't take offence about the “Latino pride” thing. I didn't imply any form of ridicule, only my experience with some of them. Saying that, us Brits can be just as bad :-)
It really is a pity they can't move on and accept things as they are, as no matter how adverse they feel toward the FI's things will remain as they are, unless the islanders vote otherwise.
My thoughts are that even if, in the extremely unlikely event, the islanders vote to be under the Argentine arm, the Argentinian people will always see the British as an enemy. Blimmin' shame really.
Pathetic. Desperate. WEAK.
As I said none of that matters. All that matters is the UN charter. That trumps all of Argentinas imperialistic colonial ambitions.
Get over it.
en.mercopress.com/2013/01/12/second-indigenous-teenager-in-a-week-murdered-in-the-north-east-of-argentina
i aggree and to be honest this constant whinging from the RGs is only showing them up on the world stage, it is frankly embarrassing!!
I think with CKs “give peace a chance” and generally trying to paint a picture of a poor bullied argentina the world is not falling for it.
It is almost like she is trying to be like Ghandi, but of course the situation is very different and i think the whole world needs a sick bucket everytime they go to UN meetings
They care not for peace, apologies, nor recognition of wars lost. She's just the personification of their immoral nature.
Well ive heard several people mention that because their invasion was highly illegal, they should be paying the £2 billion the war cost the UK back to the UK!
Also CK's stance makes no sense, one minute she deplores the war blaming the junta and then she will celebtrate the “recapture” and make sure schools read out soldiers letters from war time! It seems pretty clear to me they wouldnt have an issue with causing a war aslong as they won and kept the islands, it is something I find outrageous! “peace a chance” my arse! The biggest problem the islands have ever had have been of the RGs making! Even the USA kicked them out with USS Lexingtion!
However, in practical terms, they collectively couldn't pay back $5.8o and would probably call everyone criminals for expecting compensation for their illegalities. To them illegal actions are a way of life.
We do not see the British as enemies.
We do not see the people of the islands as enemies.
Many Argentines believe that an alternative solution is shared sovereignty. It's a big step. You can take the next step. And our people will encounter.
@191
“As I said none of that matters. All that matters is the UN charter. ”
LEP: We hope your country to meet UN resolutions Negotiations sovereignty.
@198 AND, as they say, possession is nine tenths of the law.
Explosive friend Conqueror: Then you're in trouble, in 1833 Argentina was in possession of the islands. AND, as they say, possession is nine tenths of the law. Remember?
Regards.
Get over it, we all did.
Knowing their food, their music, their art, their customs.
I want to know more, but always mentioned 1982, nuclear explosions, warships, soldiers ...By God, I want to know what activities are on weekends!!!, how they live!!
I cant see a shared sovereignty, that would mean both sides admtting the other has a case!
That issue was discussed when argentina invaded the islands and both refused even then. The thousands of conscripts that went to fight suggests argentines did see the UK as an enemy!
Argentina refused to withdraw from the islands after binding UN resolutions demanded it, and now have the cheek to be demanding UK comply to a non binding one from 1965!
The war changed the situation forever, even now the argentine president celebrates the “recapter” of the islands and gets letters read out to school children from the conscripts. Argentina does not regret war, they regret losing
Argentina only rues the war because they lost! I have studied a few wars and cant find any other country behving like this, argentina should have the gace to leave this small group of people alone and accept defeat!
I would ashamed if I argentine, they are the laughing stock of the world
Your rhetoric is of 'Argentinas want shared sovereignty' 'it's a big step for the islanders' ... when essentially Argentina offers nothing at all, not even an apology for the War of Aggression that they forced on the islanders in 1982.
Pretending that Argentinians are holding out their hands in friendship, whilst softly demanding one-sided negotiation of 'shared sovereignty' over someone else's home when they quite openly show no concern for the rights of anyone on the islands is simply morally abhorrent.
What they do at the weekends is nothing to do with you or your compatriots, and I hope this answers your questions.
Why should the Falkland Islanders hand over half of their property to someone else just because they demand it?
I mean if someone turned up at your house and demanded half of it you'd tell them to get lost.
The Falkland Islanders have offered to meet and talk to the Argentine government over matter of mutual interest and benefit. YOUR government continually IGNORES them.
As for UN resolutions, the UK has broken NONE. Argentina, however, disregarded all the UNGA resolutions your broken record of a government constantly spouts by INVADING the Falklands in 1982. You then went on to IGNORE a LEGALLY binding UNSC resolution telling you to remove your military forces from the Islands, forcing the UK to make you leave.
Nearly 1000 people died, and each death is the FAULT of Argentina.
So why should the UK or the Falkland Islanders talk to a country that is constantly ignoring UN resolutions, court orders and other international obligations? How can anyone trust a country that NEVER keeps its word?
Argentina has had 30 years to build bridges of trust and friendship with the Falkland Islanders. 30 years to prove that you were not all like the junta.
And what HAS Argentina done in the last 30 years to promote friendship and trust with a people who your military terrorised and threatened to murder?
Imposed sanctions.
Refused to acknowledge that they exist.
Attempted to damage their fishing industry.
Attempted to damage their oil and gass exploitation.
Threatened them with invasion.
Threatened them with ethnic cleansing.
Constantly lie about them on the international stage.
Perform acts of sacriledge on War Memorials.
Is that friendly? Is that likely to engender trust and friendship?
Of course it isn't.
Malvinese - If Argentina's sovereignty claim is so solid then take it to the International Court of Justice. If you won't do that, then STFU about the Falklands and concentrate on your OWN country which is falling down around your ears.
Germany and france are not trying to invade the UK.
to get joint soverienty you'd have to bring something to the table threats no your impotent.
economics your broke
common culture links to the islands no they dont trust you and speak t some foreign tongue that most Britsh people have the good taste not to bother with.
Aplogise stop being passive aggresive jerks your not getting the islands ever.
Sadly this is not the case.
“201Why not give us the chance to meet?”
Because your president refuses to meet them-the Islanders offered to meet this year, an offer ignored by an ignorant government.
One of their customs is off road driving, another is to use Spanish names for horse riding gear.
Bet the indoctrinated propaganda lessons at Argentine schools don't teach that.
Sorry for my dely, but i have been studing for all the week and i haven't had enough time to check my i mails.
This is evident that you didn't interpret correctly what i said.
Beyond the stupid phrases that perhaps our defence minister said. There is nothing more important than our constitution, and the resolutions from the decolonization committe. I have never heard our minister defence saying that the only one thing stopping arg. from invading the islands is the british garrison, if he really said that, he coulden't be more imbecill. Anyway, it wouden't be sorprising, if it was just one more distortion of the press.
Respecting our constitution, it says clearly that arg. must recover it's full sovereignty over the archipelago under the respect for the int. right., it doesn't say absolutly anything about the posibility of a new invasion. The phrase full sovereignty, is not so important, because independently of it, the u. n has never asked the u. k to return the islands to arg., in fact it has always asked both nations to find a negotiated solution, so, although the u. k. decides to resume the negotiations with arg., if the islanders manifest that they want to remain under british govt., arg. won't be able to force them to accept our sovereignty only, i have said it in all my comments, however, it's not imposible to find a solution for the sovereignty which satisfies the three parts, like the proposals of 1974 or 1980.
On the other hand, if some of you really think that just arg. omits information respecting the historic facts of this conflict, before the int. press, or before any int. forum, it means that you have been prefectly indoctrinated. Accept it or not, both parts tell just what is convenient for them.
If i decided to investigate, it's because i have never believed in or official history, and you should do the same, instead of buying the tipical official propaganda.
I think she is looking shabby and desperate! The whole ship incident is a major embarrassment and she is probably on a British plane right now, how laughable. She is escalting the issue by causing as much trouble for the UK as possible and insisting she is going to get the islands off the UK.
Your old bag is heading for a self-inflicted fall with the farmers.
If she is really lucky the majority will NOT sell their crops this coming season and park their farm machinery in the towns to block everything up.
That WILL finish her, and good riddance.
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