Thursday, January 10th 2013 - 11:56 UTC

In a highly political speech CFK appealed to the motherland and blasted hedge funds

President Cristina Fernandez (CFK) as expected made the welcoming ceremony for the Argentine frigate ARA Libertad (retained in Ghana for 78 days) into a ‘sovereignty and dignity’ political rally including the support of 20.000 militants, mostly bused in by political organizations, in which she blasted hedge funds, ‘global social predators’ and warned that through extortion and force nobody is going to obtain anything from Argentina.

Cristina Fernandez cheers the militant Kirchnerite organizations

ARA Libertad docking at the Mar del Plata naval base

Honours to the president on board the frigate

“We’re a government accustomed to external, internal and even underground pressures but we will continue to resist any extortion because no one will ever obtain anything from Argentina by extortion and by force”, said the Argentine president addressing a crowd estimated in 200.000 which gathered Wednesday evening at the Mar del Plata submarines base to welcome ARA Libertad, escorted by other Navy units.

In a speech with strong patriotic appeal and pledges of unrestricted defence of Argentina’s interests, the president said that not all governments resist pressure in reference to Ghana, --where the Argentine navy flagship remained impounded for 78 days--, and lashed out at vulture (hedge) funds, which she described as “social savage predators”.

The whole Argentine cabinet turned out at the ‘sovereignty and dignity’ event plus lawmakers, governors, mayors, political, social and human rights leaders as well as Uruguay’s Defence minister Eleuterio Fernandez Huidobro. A privileged first line of thousands of militants with flags, posters and songs especially dedicated to Cristina Fernandez made up the scenario to which no members or representatives of the opposition were invited.

“Gentlemen officers and petty officers, welcome back to our homeland: all Argentines acknowledge your dignified defence of our flagship and flag” said Cristina Fernández as she began her speech at the Mar del Plata naval base after boarding the vessel at 20:00 hour sharp and greeting one by one most of its crew. The three-mast training vessel which had arrived a day before and was waiting out at sea approached the port of Atlantic resort Mar del Plata near the beaches so that the thousands of tourists that were waiting could see her arrival. The frigate was followed by 150 sport and fishing ships and the corvette Espora which had been stranded in South Africa and also in fear of impounding from hedge funds.

The speech, on national television, invoked Argentine independence heroes such as Jose de San Martin, Manuel Belgrano and Admiral Guillermo Brown the Irish man considered the creator of the Argentine navy, whom the president said showed at all times courage “and what you need to be a man”, sometimes even disobeying orders from Buenos Aires to ensure the consolidation of the nation.

Cristina Fernandez recalled that during the seventy long days “many or maybe not so many” but powerful and with strong media repercussion, were asking to give in, to pay the hedge funds, to pay a bail, but “our government paid respect to its historic legacy” and as Brown would have preferred to scuttle the vessel before surrendering the flag.

With words loaded to defend the policies of the current government and that of her deceased husband Nestor Kirchner, the president added that “paradoxically many of those who were telling us to kneel down before the vultures, are the same who indebted Argentina, the legacy we are supporting and strictly complying after restructuring 93% of the debt with our creditors”.

The Argentine president said these vulture funds are not mere chance: they emerge when the heavy indebtedness policies bring de-industrialization, loss of jobs, hunger to the people and then they buy defaulted bonds for 10% of their face value and later claim full value be it by illegally impounding assets as happened with the frigate ARA Libertad. “But we ignored vultures, our local caranchos (South American buzzards), we listened to none, we only listened to our people that demanded respect and dignity”

“Argentina went through two of these periods in recent history, in the seventies and the nineties, we all remember that and what we need are rules, more rules for what has become anarchic-capitalism worldwide”.

Finally in what was interpreted as a reply to personal attacks questioning the speed and origin of her fortune and some non-presidential attitudes, Cristina Fernandez ironically said it would be “so nice and pleasant” to talk about colours and fashion but those who occupy executive posts must make decisions that “many times are not liked by everybody”.

“How nice would be to share smiles with everybody and take no risks, no responsibility, how nice to talk only about colours and fashion, I’d love to” said the president in a clear reference to Buenos Aires province governor Daniel Scioli who is considered a strong much-loved 2015 presidential hopeful and who she included in an escalating twitter controversy about her assets that erupted when a famous Argentine actor, Ricardo Darin (Oscar for the best non English spoken film “The colour of your eyes”) questioned their origin.

“Don’t ask me for a hypocrisy gesture, I rule for everybody with my defects, errors and horrors. I am as I am, I don’t lie, I don’t cheat, I care for the motherland, for the flag and this I will continue for fight for wherever I have to be”, said the Argentine president finishing her emotive and highly political words with several “long live the motherland” and “long live Argentina”.

The celebrations included musical performances and a display of fireworks.

Before the ceremony anti-government protesters held a pot-banging demonstration near the dock of the frigate's arrival to protest against the President and her administration. However they were rapidly dispersed by Kirchnerite militants and security forces had to intervene to impede their access and possible clashes with the militants.

Argentine media reported that most first line Kirchnerite militants, estimated in 20.000 with their flags, posters and drums, arrived in a carry-operation from different provinces in at least 500 contracted buses that were parked in a three kilometres span.

ARA Libertad left from Ghana on 19 December with a crew of 143 after spending 78 days retained in the port of Tema. She was retained 2 October when a Ghanaian court agreed to a legal demand from the US hedge fund NML. The dispute reached the Hamburg based US Law of the Sea tribunal which on 15 December ordered the immediate and unconditional release of the vessel.
 

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1 Anbar (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 12:03 pm Report abuse
/yawn
2 slattzzz (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 12:13 pm Report abuse
into a ‘sovereignty and dignity’ political rally including the support of 20.000 militants, mostly bused in by political organizations says it all, and then
“Don’t ask me for a hypocrisy gesture, I rule for everybody with my defects, errors and horrors. I am as I am, I don’t lie, I don’t cheat,..........yeah right !!
3 yankeeboy (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 12:34 pm Report abuse
Cringe worthy
Do these weak minded Rgs really fall for this crap?
I find it hard to believe
4 Conqueror (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 12:39 pm Report abuse
@2 Please note. She didn't say “I don't steal.”
5 LEPRecon (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 12:42 pm Report abuse
“I don't lie.” Erm. Actually I think that is a Typo, it should read “I do nothing BUT lie.” And probably cheat, and steal.

She'll never get into heaven with number of whoppers she's told, no matter how many Hail Mary's and Our Father's she's said.
6 ElaineB (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 12:44 pm Report abuse
She had to bus in 20,000 militants? She must be very scared.
7 Anglotino (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 01:29 pm Report abuse
The end must be approaching faster than many predict, I can't think of another reason for her to be so defensive unless she has seen the real inflation, growth and poverty figures.
8 yankeeboy (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 01:29 pm Report abuse
6. I think they are very worried the checkbook has dried up and has brought the support along with it.

The current crisis is they are 20 shiploads short of the LNG they need for 2013. They can't afford what Brazil and Japan are paying for them.

The electrical grid is held together with spit and twine and needs U$60MM in immediate repairs in Z Norte. But the electric companies can't even pay salaries! And all the euip they need must be imported.

Gonna be hard to blame the blackouts on someone else when the gov't owns the companies.

Next will be Candles Para Todos
9 willi1 (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 01:39 pm Report abuse
bullshit as usual. the crew must feel extremely beeing pulled their legs.
they know exactly: ALL THE SHIT HAPPENED BECAUSE CK DOEST NOT PAY THE COUNTRY´S DEBTS!
ck is not only a liar but also a crook who steals the money of pensioners to make herself a good life.
10 GFace (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 01:41 pm Report abuse
@8 “Gonna be hard to blame the blackouts on someone else when the gov't owns the companies. ”

“The colonialist pirates who rape our dear Mother, the Malvinas who is always with is in our hearts, with their left-hand steering wheels have siphoned off the electricity from our power grid. They are also making it rain, overloading our urban watersheds. And I think they killed my dog. ZE SUDETEN... uh... MALVINAS ARGENTINA!”
11 yankeeboy (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 01:53 pm Report abuse
10. You are actually on to something there, I heard a conspiracy theory from an RG that the USA has satellites that control the weather and is causing some places to be too wet/hot/cold depending on what it takes to ruin their crops.
You know I couldn't make this stuff up if I tried!
12 Optimus_Princeps (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 02:00 pm Report abuse
200,000? That's a lot of hotdog sandwiches. When she talks about the “Malvinas” or “vulture funds” she's basically saying “we're f#%*ed!” Read between the lines and keep your eyes open for stories completely unrelated to either topic. Things that will disturb even those with the hardiest of constitutions.
13 Simon68 (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 02:07 pm Report abuse
12 Optimus_Princeps (#)
Jan 10th, 2013 - 02:00 pm

One of them is the barbarous murder of Imer Ilvencio Flores, the 12 year old Qom child, CFK's rant in Mar del Plata is designed to take our minds off this horror, among other things like general street crime, government corruption, galloping inflation, rising unemployment, etc.
14 Tobers (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 02:13 pm Report abuse
Effectiveness of political policies doesnt mean shit at this point. Its all about deception and manipulation now. The truth isnt important. Say and do whatever it takes to keep people dependent, distracted and bought. Its just a performance. Blatant lies? Doesnt matter. People are irrational and believe what they want to to believe. The economy is well and truly screwed. Phenomenal 25 -30 % and rising inflation and increasing value of the dollar and its associated effects cant go on forever. There will be a severe readjustment at some point soon. What a mess. Its probably going to kick off this year.
15 yankeeboy (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 02:17 pm Report abuse
14. The spread between the gov't U$ rate and the real rate can't last for much longer. It has already destroyed the Real Estate and Construction Industry and 1000s of jobs. At some point the populations must take action.

Peso is 8/1 in Uruguay and Brazil...IF you can find anyone to trade!
16 slattzzz (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 02:52 pm Report abuse
All about the Libertad and not Espora as she slunk into port in the shadows, the embarrassment of a crew that couldn't keep her at sea or in fact shouldn't have let her go to sea in the first place.
How come Gentleman officers and petty officers only got a mention what about the rest of the ranks or don't they matter.
17 MrFlagpole (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 03:01 pm Report abuse
I feel embarrassed for her.

I just don't know how she can turn not weaselling out of your debts in to an issue of pride.
18 ptolemy (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 03:05 pm Report abuse
As usual, after an event like this, I have to go out and remove the political BS off my house. Today was no exception. I actually like removing the cute CFK slogans. Many people stop, watch and ask questions; makes them think for change. By the way, who is it that issues the cans of paint? I know the little K-rodents don't buy them themselves.
19 Tobers (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 03:21 pm Report abuse
@18

I wondered that when I was there last year. Paint isnt cheap! The government are paying for the paint. You see massive pro government slogans everywhere on peoples homes, libraries, schools. Overnight a 30 foot slogan will appear sprayed quickly on the side of a school wall. You name it they don' t care. And from what I saw it outnumbers anti government slogans by about 10 to 1 which goes to show how hysterical and insecure they are. Its obvious that its organised because there are only 2 or 3 slogans repeated everywhere. Every street in everytown defaced by the government with the public's money. A pathetic way to run a government.
20 Troy Tempest (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 03:36 pm Report abuse
At least in Cuba, where communism and a totalitarian state makes no pretence and declares itself as such, the government erects monuments and constructs billboards for slogans, rather than deface homes, public, or now, privately owned, buildings.
21 LEPRecon (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 03:39 pm Report abuse
@11 - Yankeeboy

Well there was one RG poster who actually believed that the British ran the world, and that the US and the UN were puppets, and it was only a matter of time before we revealed our true intentions.

It's typical of certain parts of Argentina to blame all of their troubles, especially the self-inflicted ones, on others. Because of this they are completely unable to learn from their mistakes, hence why they're always voting crooks in who rob them blind, and why the Argentine economy is nose-diving every decade.

You see it's not THEIR fault, so it must be the evil British Pirates or the evil Inperialistic USA.

They never learn, and from the looks of it, they never will.
22 Simon68 (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 03:43 pm Report abuse
Just think that Moreno contracted sufficient busses to transport 20.000 “militants” to Mar del Plata. I've heard that the price per capita was ARS$ 450.00 so the the government spent something in the region of US$ 2.000.000 of our money to move these slackers so that they could wave flags and shout for a couple of hours and consume a sausage sandwich or two!!!!!!!

Add to that almost another US$ 1.000.000 for the contract of the luxury plane for CFK's trip to Cuba, the UAE and Vietnam. This bloody woman is too damned expensive for us!!!!!!
23 GFace (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 03:51 pm Report abuse
@21, well it was awfully kind of him/her to give “The Joooooooooooooos” a day off. (Though given the rabid antisemitism we see bubble up from some of the Malvanistas here I'm sure they were part of the big conspiracy too!)
24 Tobers (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 03:58 pm Report abuse
@Simon

Its pathetic and so wrong to spend all this money transporting 20 000 militants to Mar del Plata. Its not far from BA and greater BA. People could have gone there by their own accord. On top of that there are already 100 000s there on holiday. The government couldnt be sure that enough people would turn up to actively support them and were worried about anti CFK demonstrators (lets call them pro democracy supporters from now on). Pathetic.
25 KFC de Pollo (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 04:02 pm Report abuse
200,000 my arse! 20k max and they were the usual mix of government workers, campora twats and the odd union who cristina has paid.
26 ElaineB (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 04:10 pm Report abuse
There were complaints that the ship's crew's families were not being given the same free transport and help to get to Mar del Plata. I wonder if the government did something about that?
27 Captain Poppy (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 04:14 pm Report abuse
“We are happy that the ship has returned, that goes without saying, but I don’t know if it was appropriate to hold such a grand party using a budget that all of us Argentines have to pay for.
Mainly though, because of the fact that the return of the ship came amid an international scandal, where we were embargoed for having debts with the world,” Macri told reporters.

One of the few Argentine leaders that relaizes this is not a reason to celebrate being a worldwide embarrassment.
28 JuanGabriel (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 04:20 pm Report abuse
@8 I love the fact that one of the LNG vessels used to supply them is called 'British Innovator' which flies the British Flag. I think they seem to be getting all their LNG from Trinidad at the moment.

Perhaps UKG should subsidise a shipping company to tender for the contract and get them to rename all their ships - I'm sure we can come up with a few suitable ones.
29 reality check (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 04:36 pm Report abuse
Recalling Admiral BROWNS name. I bet the old bot is turning in his grave with shame!
30 surfer (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 04:52 pm Report abuse
Expect a massive ramp up in rhetoric and sabre bashing.... Peso is getting jolly rogered....

tn.com.ar/politica/el-dolar-blue-sin-freno_298499
31 ChrisR (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 05:32 pm Report abuse
Clarin had photos of the coaches used to take this shit to the party outside the offices of INDEC.

Senior officials of INDEC actually arranged it. I think that is where the 200,000 number came from. Given the number of buses it was probably 2,000.
32 yankeeboy (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 05:36 pm Report abuse
30. What the market is saying is that it is expecting a 40%+ devaluation.

I think the tipping point will be 10/1.

Any bets on when we will see it? I correctly predicted 7/1 last year. I'm thinking at the latest 3rd quarter 2013 after the Soy inflow is spent.
33 ElaineB (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 05:45 pm Report abuse
I think they were bused in from all over, not just BsAs. Apparently, 500 buses carrying 20,000.

The buses from BsAs gave out party favours; Caps and Tees with 'Clarin Lies' slogans.

Really, anyone wanting to launch an opposition just has to come up with better party bags. One of those gigantic pointy hands and some candy floss would probably win over the rent-a thugs.
34 Simon68 (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 05:48 pm Report abuse
32 yankeeboy (#)
Jan 10th, 2013 - 05:36 pm

If there is a soy inflow!!!!! With the farmers up in arms they may not send there harvest to market, as they don't like to pay the extra export tax on soy!!!!!

That would really f*ck CFK's plans!!!!!!
35 Lou Spoo (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 05:57 pm Report abuse
I suspect the only reason so many people turned up is because they heard it was going to be a 'DIGNITAS' party and hoped to see the mad old bitch top herself!
36 ChrisR (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 06:05 pm Report abuse
@33 ElaineB

That would be 10 round trips for each bus. I don't know, but it that possible in the hours they had available?
37 reality check (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 06:17 pm Report abuse
She could have used red double deckers, but following on from the story of her leasing a British Jet, leasing British buses, would have been a step too far, even for her.
38 redpoll (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 06:28 pm Report abuse
You should see the state of his grave in County Mayo.
39 ElaineB (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 07:02 pm Report abuse
@36 Were they not 52 seater coaches? I don't know either. I read 500 buses from different cities shipping in 20,000 people but I wasn't there. :)

I heard the anti-government protest was quickly swamped. What happened to CFKC's assertion that the government does not stop protests as it is the right of the people? I remember her saying that.
40 GFace (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 07:39 pm Report abuse
This really is sad though. This is supposed to be a big victory and what is it? She beat the repo man to whom she still owes wads of cash (and not in bonds tied to GDP which due to their lies about the inflation rate are worthless, real honest to goodness dollars). How does she celebrate? She had to bus in 20k people at great public expense to cheer for it and then use them to break up a small counter demonstration. Boy this is really sad. If she weren't such a crypto-fascist and reminiscer for the Dirty War WRT the Falklands.
41 agent999 (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 07:41 pm Report abuse
@39
500 coaches would have been more than enough @ 40 per coach.
Also the 20,000 include all her ministers and officials, they would not have lowered themselves to travel by bus.
42 jeffski (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 08:04 pm Report abuse
www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-10/evading-singer-s-dragnet-means-880-000-flight-argentina-credit.html
43 Ayayay (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 11:29 pm Report abuse
In the meantime, both political sides in the U.S. think the U.S. is headed for another boom period. To compete with Asian countries, ppl need to be constructive.
44 AzaUK (#) Jan 11th, 2013 - 12:49 am Report abuse
that's their flagship? lmao
45 briton (#) Jan 11th, 2013 - 12:51 am Report abuse
Don’t ask me for a hypocrisy lesson=, ,
, for the flag and this they will continue to fight for and die for when I demand , wherever I have to be
1, I rule for everybody with my defects, [plastics included]

2, , errors and horrors. I am as I am / [ I ruin everything I touch]
Including my face,= // I am as I am, because I was moulded that way ? ]
3, I don’t lie, I don’t cheat// [everything I say is the truth, according to argentine law.

4, , I care for the motherland=/ , it has made me very rich and wealthy,,

And if she dares to tell a lie, may she talk for ever and ever.
Chuckling .
.
46 Mendoza Canadian (#) Jan 11th, 2013 - 01:21 am Report abuse
The propaganda machine here cost billions...futbol para todos alone cost 1,287 BILLION....84% over budget...because all advertising is in the name of the presidenta....
47 KFC de Pollo (#) Jan 11th, 2013 - 05:44 am Report abuse
@46 you are so right, and now all the media companies are so reliant on this propaganda to survive! Its crazy!
48 reality check (#) Jan 11th, 2013 - 08:43 am Report abuse
Time for a musical dedication for madam Presidente.

The party's over
It's time to call it day
They've burst your pretty balloon
And taken the moon away.

It's time to wind up
The masquerade
Just make your mind up
The piper must be paid.

The party's over
The candles flicker and dim
You danced and dream
Through the night
It seemed to be right
Just being with Libertad.

Now you must wake up
All my dreams must end
Take off your makeup
The party's over
It's all over, my friend.
49 Raven (#) Jan 11th, 2013 - 09:35 am Report abuse
So, here we have the Fourth Reich, with the Fuhrer giving another speech to make another story to put in the front pages of her press, and the SS and Brownshirts keeping disruption away from the event.

And just like the Third Reich, she's going to leave her country in utter shit state by the time she leaves office.
50 yankeeboy (#) Jan 11th, 2013 - 12:41 pm Report abuse
34. Simon, that would be the smartest thing the Farmers could do. Withholding the grains from market for a season should be enough to drive the economy into the ground.
I am sure CFK would try to confiscate it but it may be tied up in the courts long enough for it to collapse the system.

I find the apathy of Argentinians sickening, absolutely sickening!

They never learn, every 10 yrs they lose all their savings, families move from Middle class to Poor and yet they get someone just as bad to rule them the next 10 years.

Can't any RG tell me is it stupidity or laziness?

Iv'e asked many many times and no one can see to tell me what is wrong with these people.
No one.
51 Simon68 (#) Jan 11th, 2013 - 02:17 pm Report abuse
50 yankeeboy (#)
Jan 11th, 2013 - 12:41 pm

I suppose you could call it laziness, yankeeboy, laced with a bit of stupidity. I say this because the fact that our electorate keep electing crooks is tat the voting base here consists (aproximately) of 30% totally convinced peronists ( of all persuasions), 30% independents (of all persuasions) and 40% poverty stricken people of NO ideology at all who will sell their vote to the highest bidder, or to the thug who makes the worst threats!!!!!!

This is why we will NEVER get out of the vicious circle!!!!!
52 yankeeboy (#) Jan 11th, 2013 - 02:24 pm Report abuse
Simon, I feel sorry for the small % of the population that realizes they're doomed but can not escape. It must be a horrible feeling.
At least once a week I have one of my Arg friends asking to come to the USA or worst case to send them money. All of my friends from there were/are professionals in their 30s! Most of them live at home still and have no hopes to be able to afford to ever move out of their parent's house, can't travel, can barely afford a car and the ones with families of their own are asking me for $! It is super sad.
53 ElaineB (#) Jan 11th, 2013 - 03:01 pm Report abuse
@52 No disrespect to anyone but I kinda hope you don't give money. None of my business but I never, ever, give money even when gently hustled as happens in many of the countries I visit, though particularly in Central America. I've heard enough sob-stories and details of businesses I might want to invest in to last a lifetime.

I am not hard-hearted (actually, I probably am) but other than treating friends to an occasional night out as thanks for their help, or sometime taking someone along on a trip when I need a companion, I just think they have to find their own way.

In Argentina it is tough because they are encouraged to have developed world aspirations whilst never really having the ability to achieve them. I still think one good and powerful leader could change the fortunes of that country.
54 yankeeboy (#) Jan 11th, 2013 - 03:06 pm Report abuse
Elaine, I never give them money. I may buy clothes or shoes for the kids when I visit but never money.
I agree a good and powerful leader could and probably would change their country but at this point there is no one on the horizon. They need a Thatcher to right that ship!
55 Gordo1 (#) Jan 11th, 2013 - 04:37 pm Report abuse
Does she have no sensible mature advisors? Surely someone should have told her the outcome of this performance means she has “egg all over her face”?

Even her most ardent Latin American supporters (Rafael Correa, Evo Morales) must be just a little worried about this nonsensical “pantomime”.
56 yankeeboy (#) Jan 11th, 2013 - 04:47 pm Report abuse
55. I think once Chavez is in the ground UNASUR and the Bolivarian Socialist Revolution will die right along with him.

They never got their Bank of the South going and you never hear of Unasur outside of this forum they don't even have a rep in DC!

Bolivia and Ecuador are too small and poor to be of any consequence to anyone and Brazil, Peru, Chile, Columbia are (mostly) aligned with the USA.

I understand Venezuelan officials have already been knocking on Cap Hill and State's doors to try to get better relations with us.

Hopefully the Chavez nightmare will be over soon.
Godspeed,
57 agent999 (#) Jan 11th, 2013 - 05:23 pm Report abuse
@55
She does not allow sensible advisers
After all she has publicly stated:-
“you only have to fear God, and me”
“Don’t ask me for a hypocrisy gesture, I rule for everybody with my defects, errors and horrors. I am as I am, I don’t lie, I don’t cheat, I care for the motherland, for the flag and this I will continue for fight for wherever I have to be”
58 Raul (#) Jan 11th, 2013 - 05:27 pm Report abuse
“People need more work and less wars”

Read the following link:

www.pagina12.com.ar/diario/elpais/1-211350-2013-01-07.html

The National Government repudiated the “militaristic threats” made ​​by the Prime Minister of Britain, David Cameron, who said he was “ready to fight” to maintain colonial rule over the Falkland Islands. The Foreign Ministry issued a statement calling on the Prime Minister to “stop using legitimate and peaceful demands” made ​​by Argentina in international forums “to continue supporting the arms industry, rather than alleviate crisis experiencing social Europe ”.

The response of the Palacio San Martín Britain insists that meets demand “the obligation to accept the resolutions of the United Nations to resolve the matter peacefully Falklands”.

“The aggressiveness of the words of British Prime Minister confirm the complaint filed by the Republic of Argentina to the United Nations about the militarization of the South Atlantic and the possible presence of nuclear weapons introduced by the colonial power,” said Foreign Ministry.

During an interview with the BBC, Cameron said it was “absolutely essential to have jets and troops stationed in the islands,” and stressed that his country “is one of five defense budgets in the world.”

Therefore, the portfolio of Minister Héctor Timerman order British Prime Minister “not use legitimate and peaceful demands” that Argentina was “against the usurpation of part of our territory and against colonialism as an excuse to continue to support the industry of weapons instead of alleviating social crisis currently affecting Europe. ”

contact:

face1354@hotmail.com
59 agent999 (#) Jan 11th, 2013 - 05:35 pm Report abuse
@55
She does not allow sensible advisers
@58 raul - back on topic
After all she has publicly stated:-
“you only have to fear God, and me”
“Don’t ask me for a hypocrisy gesture, I rule for everybody with my defects, errors and horrors. I am as I am, I don’t lie, I don’t cheat, I care for the motherland, for the flag and this I will continue for fight for wherever I have to be”
60 Shed-time (#) Jan 11th, 2013 - 05:39 pm Report abuse
@59 Hector Timmerman is just trying to make/keep himself rich by saying anything that will keep him close to this corrupt frump and her seemingly endless collection of sycophantic argies. Then he'll return to NYC and count all his gold.

He'd say green is blue if it got him another dollar. Probably best to ignore his inane ramblings.
61 agent999 (#) Jan 11th, 2013 - 05:58 pm Report abuse
@60
but blue is the only colour if you want buy US$
62 Pirat-Hunter (#) Jan 11th, 2013 - 06:00 pm Report abuse
you have to love CFK she has more balls then all of the Argentine army combined let's hope the constitution is finally fixed so we can vote for CFK again, VIVA CRISTINA, keep up the good job.
axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_64333.shtml
63 Captain Poppy (#) Jan 11th, 2013 - 06:11 pm Report abuse
Ask anyone IN argentina if they feel as you do. I have yet to meet anyone that feels you way.
And yes she has balls......blue balls.
64 slattzzz (#) Jan 11th, 2013 - 08:22 pm Report abuse
@58 as i said before on the other thread dickhead go on you tube and actually listen to the interview instead of making a complete dick of yourself as usual Quote“I get regular reports on this entire issue because I want to know that our defences are strong, our resolve is extremely strong.” Asked whether Britain would fight to keep the islands, he replied: “Of course we would, and we have strong defences in place on the Falkland Islands, that is absolutely key, that we have fast jets stationed there, we have troops stationed on the Falklands.” unquote NO mention of colonial rule.
Again i ask you why we have strong defences in the Falklands (there are no malvinas).................1982 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
65 Shed-time (#) Jan 11th, 2013 - 08:39 pm Report abuse
Motherland or Vaterland. Nuremberg or Mar del Plata. Same sh!t, different shovel.

.... it's all some German spouting fascist doctrine.
66 toooldtodieyoung (#) Jan 11th, 2013 - 09:33 pm Report abuse
62 Pirat-Hunter

Are you saying that KFC / TMBOA / Ol' Turkey Neck / The Harpy is a man??? No wonder you never see Timerman and KFC in the same photo!

LOL!! I think you might be right. She is more of a man than you or me.She has hairs on her chest you know..... All the way down to her w*lly!!!

58 Raul

The response of the Palacio San Martín Britain insists that meets demand “the obligation to accept the resolutions of the United Nations to resolve the matter peacefully Falklands”.

There you go again with Argentina Demands and KFC insists...blah, blah, blah. The matter of the Falklands can never be settled peacefully thanks to thick headed, goose steeping, all-but-in-name Nazi / Argentine attitudes to the Islanders.
The whole world saw your “Peaceful solution” back in 1982 thank you very much. Locking up the entuire population of Goose Green, deporting “Troublesome” Islanders, planting hand grenades in school desks, laying unmapped mine fields, using all of Port Stanley as a big, open cess-pit for your troops.....NO!!

You had your chance... Remember the old phrase “You only get one chance at making a first impression” well, guess what? 1982!! Now the islanders want nothing to do with you.

So the Falklands issue HAS been solved. The Islanders want to remain British AND they have a garrison to help them remain British. So I guess that that means that you can take your “demands” and your “Insists” and your “orders” and stick them up your 'Arris.
67 reality check (#) Jan 11th, 2013 - 09:56 pm Report abuse
@66too
You have something there, perhaps the official FO line to her rants should be. “HMG has no comment to make regarding Argentinas last statement. HMG considers the matter of the Falkland Islands was resovlved in 1982.”

Nothing more, each and every time a brief statement, “HMC has no comment to make regarding Argentinas last statement. HMG considers that the matter was resolved in 1982.”

Each and every time, nothing more.
68 lsolde (#) Jan 11th, 2013 - 10:13 pm Report abuse
@66 toooldtodieyoung,
Excellent post, couldn't have put it better myself.
“Demands” & “lnsists” are among their favourite words.
Gives the general idea of their “schoolyard bully” mentality.
lndeed 1982 decided it all. They had their big chance & they dropped the ball.
No second chances, amigos.
Too true, reality check, the matter is resolved.
69 toooldtodieyoung (#) Jan 11th, 2013 - 10:25 pm Report abuse
67 reality check & 68 lsolde

Have you noticed that it's also true of the La Campora posters on here too? Not only do they make mistakes.... But they keep on making the same mistakes!!

Hard to believe that no one, NO ONE in KFC's government has stopped to think “Hang on a minute, we've tried this before and it didn't work then, why are we doing it again?”

Oh and Reality Check? LOve that statement man, love it!! They should have it made into flash cards to hold up at the UN when laughing boy Timerman goes off on one.
70 commonsparrow (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 02:02 am Report abuse
I wish she would talk about colors and fashion because that black has to go. Charismatic speeches in black don't mix well. Too many “I”s and not enough “people” in the speech. Should first have her PR people go over the speech next time.
71 redpoll (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 03:15 am Report abuse
Yep black pants at arrival at Havana and then she changed into a blackshirt before leaving the terminal
72 Pirat-Hunter (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 03:28 am Report abuse
#63 thats no news to me, you will surely never meet anyone at all if you never get out of your moms basement. Have you considered that the friends you have lie about being Argentine.
#64 we support a nuclear defence program 100% made in Argentina how long do you think it would take for a nuclear war to end ? And who will win? If we tested on islas Malvinas Argentina ?
#65 islands Malvinas Argentina are not negotiable, and the fakland holdings can go back to UK asap. We already have a big corporation like YPF, What's the beef? I am proud of CFK she is the best president Argentina had in 49 years.
#66 we have it in our constitution Islas Malvinas Argentina, the fakland holding vote came in too late. We might also vote in Argentina in march to show that we don't want Malvinas Argentina to be British. Who's vote do you trust 300 British or 40 million Argentine?
#67 lol don't be silly this will last for hundreds of generations, I look forwards for Argentina to build a nuclear defence program 100% made in Argentina before 2020 and build a mining and fishing town in Antarctica Argentina in the same frame of time.
#68 that's what Jewish said about Palestine and the planes fell out of the sky, all I can say is bring you parashute if you are not Latin american and bring your own water and food.
#69 trust me no one has tryed it, I am cheering for Argentina to do well without any financial help because any financial help goes to a Swiss bank account to help IMF and WTO blood suckers.
#70 she make me feel proud when she speaks to the people, she has my support at least she is not arming terrorists in the middle east or letting children by executed by a automatic weapons. I wish people had ethics and morals.
axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_64333.shtml
73 surfer (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 07:31 am Report abuse
Fail
74 reality check (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 09:39 am Report abuse
PH

The Argentine Nuclear Development Programme could probably do with some help, so here goes.

Step 1. Split the Atom.
75 ChrisR (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 10:32 am Report abuse
74 reality check

Brilliant!

Easy-peasey to the massive intellect of every Malvanista!
76 slattzzz (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 12:10 pm Report abuse
www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/01/falklands-redux-is-president-kirchner-south-americas-biggest-troll/267067/
Read and weep trolls
77 LEPRecon (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 01:19 pm Report abuse
@74 - reality check

Step 2. Er... there isn't a step 2 as we are unable to achieve step 1. ;)
78 ChrisR (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 01:36 pm Report abuse
But they could always try what this idiot did:
www.treehugger.com/corporate-responsibility/man-arrested-for-attempting-to-split-the-atom-in-his-kitchen.html

And, just to accompany them:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=otY1sfvELXQ
79 reality check (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 01:41 pm Report abuse
ChrisR

Dare I say it, that's not PH's kitchen by any chance, is it?
80 redpoll (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 01:44 pm Report abuse
So the black widow gave Chavez a Bible. Useful text for those studying for thier Finals
81 slattzzz (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 02:08 pm Report abuse
@72 she make me feel proud when she speaks to the people, she has my support at least she is not arming terrorists in the middle east or letting children by executed by a automatic weapons. I wish people had ethics and morals.
Says the man who wants to nuke the Falklands (there are no malvinas) who lives in Canada under the soveriegnty of Her Majesty the Queen. You must be gutted every time you pull out a twenty dollar bill and see her majestys face on it...................dickhead
82 toooldtodieyoung (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 04:46 pm Report abuse
72 Pirat-Hunter

“Who's vote do you trust 300 British or 40 million Argentine?”

Seriously, you don't know the answer to that one? What is this? Some kind of Star Trek bullsh*t, the needs of the many outwiegh the needs of the few? well, let me enlighten you on that.

1/ There are 3,000 British in the Falklands. Not 300

2/ 40 million wrongs do not make a Right

3/ If it is written in your constitution that the Falklands Islands are Argentine, then your constitution is a lie.

4/ It is not just the British that would agree with me, there are plenty of other nations in the world that are willing to take the word / vote / opinion of 1 British person, over the word / vote / opinion of 40 million Argentinians. Other nations have seen what liars / cheats you are. They also know you would sell your own mothers for the right price and can not be trusted with anything.

5/ what of the lands that you have stolen from your neighbours? Are you going to show “Good faith” and return them to their rightfull owners??

6/ “ I wish people had ethics and morals”...... You say, while wanting to “Ethically cleanse” the Falklands..........clown.
83 ChrisR (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 06:06 pm Report abuse
80 redpoll

Yes, he is swotting up on Revelations; particular who may be riding the Green Horse (Death and Hades follows him) because he might know him!

Any week now I think: can't come soon enough.
84 redpoll (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 08:22 pm Report abuse
BooK of Job I think at present Chris with all his visitors?
85 GeoffWard2 (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 08:31 pm Report abuse
Seems like CFK's media boating event has been lost in the Chavez media swamp.
86 Shed-time (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 01:42 pm Report abuse
“ I am as I am, I don’t lie, I don’t cheat, I care for the motherland, for the flag and this I will continue for fight for wherever I have to be”

Let's just objectively examine what she said here...

” I am as I am“ - nothing to add
” I don’t lie“ - with a successful career as a legal eagle, made millions, lies about malvinas, lies about UN resolutions, lies about everything nearly
”I don’t cheat“ - YPF $520 million offshored to a personal wealth account, $2.3 billion routed to her son in La Campora for 'new planes'
”I care for the motherland, for the flag“ - the Reichskriegsflagge
”I will continue for fight for wherever I have to be” - probably in exile.
87 ChrisR (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 05:22 pm Report abuse
@84 redpoll

With TMBOA in the role of Satan or his shrew of a wife (Job that is)?

Ha, ha. Good call on Job.
88 GFace (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 05:22 pm Report abuse
@72/82:

So... 40M in Fascist Argentina, 3000 in the self-determining British Falklands.

~69.3M in Nazi Germany, ~3.8M Danes in 1940.
~69.3M in Nazi Germany, ~8.3M Belgians in 1940

I guess that settles it. Fascists like you never change.
89 scottbart (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 08:03 pm Report abuse
‘sovereignty and dignity’ This woman is totally nuts! The ship was impounded because Argentina continues to fail to pay its debts! If you cant pay your debts then dont borrow the money! Bills have to be paid or the whole system breaks down!
Trying to paint this picture of dignity is hilarious!
90 Shed-time (#) Jan 15th, 2013 - 10:50 pm Report abuse
@90 paying one's debts in Argentine is seen as being highly undignified and often the cause of family break-ups.
91 British_Kirchnerist (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 06:17 pm Report abuse
Great speech, and a brilliant dose of politics delivered in the usual classy way. Great to see her fighting Scioli, can't imagine she'll just hnd over to him because he's a Peronist. She's so right that the haters are hypocrites and a President would be hypocritical to try to please everyone. Its just she pleases the sectors that most Presidents opress (as Scioli most likely would) and angers those who most Presidents (and definately Scioli) would appease - the banksters, hedge funders and vultures. And she's winning, don't take my word for it, just look at those lovely pictures of her with the ship =)
92 redpoll (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 10:01 pm Report abuse
BK doesnt live in Scotland but in Cloud Cuckoo Land

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