Tuesday, January 15th 2013 - 06:55 UTC

Strong ruling party leader ignores Cristina Fernandez ‘dollar clamp’ policy

Following recent criticism from President Cristina Fernández in support of her ‘dollar clamp’ policy, Buenos Aires province Governor Daniel Scioli justified his savings in US dollars by affirming he needs to travel overseas because of his physical problem.

Governor Scioli is seen as a good candidate to succeed Cristina Fernandez in 2015

“I have a physical problem that is obvious and that forces me to travel once a year, so I have to be reasonable about the availability of resources toward my treatment” said the governor in reference to his prosthetic arm.

The Cristina Fernandez administration has been implementing for over two years a policy that discourages Argentines to deal and save with US dollars, arguing the US currency is needed by the Treasury to honour debts and pay for imports. Since last July there are no new bank savings accounts in dollars in Argentina.

However Governor and presidential hopeful Scioli said that he resolves such “matters” in “appropriate areas,” adding that he has certain “differences” with the President, although recognizing that she directs an “ample” following, and that they complement each other nonetheless.

“We generally agree on matters beyond each other’s nuances, (which) have been demonstrated throughout these intense ten years,” Scioli insisted, suggesting he did not have to “overact” his “loyalty.”

The governor stated that “this works as in any team: we are different and complement each other,” adding that he told late former President Néstor Kirchner that “close-minded thought is not good.”

Scioli also referred to his relationship with Conservative Buenos Aires Mayor Mauricio Macri who President Cristina Fernandez is constantly targeting given his presidential chances.

“We have known each other for many years, and” their “wives are friends,” but that it is “clear” that they “belong to different parties.”

With regard to the financial situation in his province, the governor said that his administration will attempt to “maximize the optimization of the revenue allocated for spending,” but that creating or increasing tax was not an option, because a “maximum” level had already been reached, and such a policy would be detrimental to economic activity and competitiveness.

Scioli, Cordoba governor Jose Manuel de la Sota, Tigre Mayor Sergio Massa and Macri are names seriously considered as potential presidential candidates for 2014. This however collides with ultra-Kirchnerite attempts (allegedly sponsored by CFK) to amend the constitution and have Cristina Fernandez bid for a third consecutive period.

Scioli who was introduced to politics in the early nineties by former president Carlos Menem was several years world champion of offshore powerboat competition until in December 1989 he lost an arm during a race in the Parana River.

Not good at speeches, nevertheless he is more easy going, amicable, tolerates criticism, is open to dialogue and has a more mild attitude towards the opposition, some of the qualities that many Peronist leaders have seen evaporate from President Cristina Fernandez as she becomes increasingly arrogant and almost authoritarian particularly in her party dealings.

He was re-elected governor in the province of Buenos Aires two years ago with sufficient margin to help Cristina Fernandez with her landslide victory and re-election.

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1 Shed-time (#) Jan 15th, 2013 - 08:58 am Report abuse
'All animals are equal, just some are more equal than others', G. Orwell (1945)
2 willi1 (#) Jan 15th, 2013 - 09:16 am Report abuse
the question is how long he can withstand ck´s repressions.
3 Anbar (#) Jan 15th, 2013 - 10:15 am Report abuse
I see no harm in saving in $USD. ...



4 Shed-time (#) Jan 15th, 2013 - 11:14 am Report abuse
Ruling elites, in states such as Argentina, North Korea, Venezuela, Ecuador, always have different rules to the peons. That's why KFC has $520mil in a personal wealth fun, presumably in dollars, and this guy has most of his savings in dollars too. Timmerman is an american so of course his wages are in shekels.

Expecting crypto-fascist despotic ruling elites to actually do the same as the proles is expecting a little too much, methinks.
5 ChrisR (#) Jan 15th, 2013 - 11:16 am Report abuse
I was going to say: I bet he can throw his hand in as well!
6 Anglotino (#) Jan 15th, 2013 - 11:19 am Report abuse
Do as I say and not as I do!

Now shut up and continue toiling for the motherland.
7 Optimus_Princeps (#) Jan 15th, 2013 - 11:28 am Report abuse
This guy is a tool. He never takes a position and tries to maneuver in any way necessary to maintain his approval rating. What's the point of approval if it comes from the least politically educated in the country?
8 Shed-time (#) Jan 15th, 2013 - 11:32 am Report abuse
@7 That just shows the underpinnings of Peronism, you spout populist left-wing rhetoric in order to get approval from the unthinking peons, and then your actual time in office is spent reinforcing your power-base though fascism and corporatism.

The argentinian poor are kept poor, because this provides a huge number of poor uneducation and easily manipulated folk to vote for them at the expense of a bag of groceries.

Using this formula you can keep yourself in power ad finitum.
9 Gustbury (#) Jan 15th, 2013 - 12:18 pm Report abuse
Dany is a great great guy!!!!!!!!!!
10 Tobers (#) Jan 15th, 2013 - 12:58 pm Report abuse
Not sure about this illness he claims. Hes often playing celebrity, charity football matches - not bad for a 54 yr old that requires specialist medical attention! Then again at least hes pissing CFK off!
11 yankeeboy (#) Jan 15th, 2013 - 01:05 pm Report abuse
The Province Of Buenos Aires is full of corruptions, insecurity, poor infrastructure, lazy gov't employees and very very high taxes.


I was talking to a friend over the weekend who said the crime is OUT OF CONTROL in BA Province, so far it is kinda OK in Cap Fed but the Prov is very dangerous with lots of Sucuestro Express (es) happening. Which means lots of kidnappings where thugs take you in a car and either call your family for a payment or drive you around to ATMs until you can't withdraw any more then drop you in the middle of a slum to find your way home.
I am so glad I am not living there any longer,
What a horrible place,
12 surfer (#) Jan 15th, 2013 - 01:24 pm Report abuse
Didn't that charming fellow Anibal Fernandez say you had to be 'stupid' to save in pesos, when queried about his own dollar savings?


How the ARG peso is below 10 to the dollar is astonishing, reckon the true value of the is around 3-4 cents....( 25-30 pesos to the dollar apprx. ). That's until the default, then all bets are off!

13 yankeeboy (#) Jan 15th, 2013 - 02:15 pm Report abuse
BCRA already admitted they were going to depreciate the gov't exchange rate peso 20% in 2013.
Why would you give up U$ to KNOW you'll have 20% less buying power next year?
My guess is it will be much more than a 20% devaluation in the real exchange rate though...much more!
14 Shed-time (#) Jan 15th, 2013 - 02:30 pm Report abuse
pesos are basically monopoly money, but with celebratory pictures of genocidal maniacs on each side.

Better save in dollars, vintage wines, luxury items, anything.
15 ptolemy (#) Jan 15th, 2013 - 03:48 pm Report abuse
The guy may be a “tool” but often DOES take a position against CFK, which is surprising since he is a peronist. And as @10 says: “at least hes pissing CFK off!”
16 CJvR (#) Jan 15th, 2013 - 06:13 pm Report abuse

I suspect he would rather resign than turn in his $ at the official rates. If he does cave I expect he will go on a buying spree first to get real estate and other non-peso assets. No one trust in the peso.
17 briton (#) Jan 15th, 2013 - 07:43 pm Report abuse
it looks like they will / may / replace one tyrant with another tyran.
18 Ayayay (#) Jan 15th, 2013 - 08:01 pm Report abuse
So how good is the health care there?
19 yankeeboy (#) Jan 15th, 2013 - 08:55 pm Report abuse
According to Indec you can eat a full days worth of nutritious food for U$0.78!!

Gosh what a paradise!

18. Depends on what you mean by healthcare, Public Hospitals are disgusting, super dirty with used equipment that the USA discarded in the 50s. If you are sick with anything complicated you'll most likely die if you are treated in Argentina. But in general the Dr are nice if you have insurance and go to a private clinic. Even in the private clinics the technology is pretty dated, you wouldn't want to do any major surgery or some new procedure there.
20 Shed-time (#) Jan 15th, 2013 - 10:12 pm Report abuse
@19 $0.80 will probably buy you an out of date can of dulce de leche. So I guess they could have one of those every day and you'd probably make it for a few months before death by chronic diabetes.
21 ajoknoblauch (#) Jan 15th, 2013 - 11:28 pm Report abuse
@19: I once had an MRI on my knee at the Clínica Fleni in Belgrano, which cost me roughly what the deductible would have been in California - if I had been fortunate enough to have insurance. My orthopedist in California looked at the results and said, “These are really good images.”

It's worth adding that the late Dr. René Favaloro pioneered bypass surgery, and his clinic in Buenos Aires does just about everything anybody here can - presuming you have something other than basic state-sponsored coverage at public hospitals.
22 yankeeboy (#) Jan 16th, 2013 - 12:15 am Report abuse
21. Considering since the beginning of 2012 the Arg gov't has SEVERELY restricted the importation of the very basics needs of Hospitals such as surgical gloves, antiseptics, syringes and med some people need to live like INSULIN, HIV & Cancer meds their health system is on the verge of collapse.

My advice if you get sick is to get back to civilization.
23 Pirat-Hunter (#) Jan 16th, 2013 - 01:09 am Report abuse
#2 Argentina is long long away from being a Syria, Libya, Afghanistan or Iraq, in any case we all know that it gets much worst rather then better, that's why we support CFK 100%.
#3 that because you don't know how prices are set in a free market, and if you save in dollars you can't complain about hyperinflation, when there is no structure to support a peso economy.
#4 I guess you come from a part of the world where there was never any slavery.
#7 amazing what people will say and do for power.
#8 a bit like the UK and US terror propaganda in the middle east?
#11 that was a plot by macri who let the police in Buenos Aires lose against the poor and then shut off the electricity in public places. Claiming the city couldn't afford the bills, a month later he unleashed a strike against CFK without much support, and 2 to 3 months later moyano from CGT lunched another strike while macri sat out of the spot light to play with the electricity grids with his allies. That was the end of macri's presidential dreams, now we have this clown who rather then working from a political position to better the health of all Argentines wants dollars to run away to another country, I want to offer him my job in Canada where he can collect all the dollars he wishes and pay taxes for a better health care system in exchange for his job in Argentina, there should be laws in Argentina to root out corruption in public service. If he had said he needed dollars to refurnish university, hospitals, schools or build any public work this report can help him, but this just blows the whistle on corruption and ineptitude.
#16 this guy is inept, if he had invested in property he wouldn't be here licking his wounds. He could be celebrating with the rest of us Argentines who can now afford to buy property.
#17 CFK forever.
#18 the health care is as good as a free horse, how is it in your country? Go or or free?
24 Nostrolldamus the 8th (#) Jan 16th, 2013 - 02:15 am Report abuse

This from a country that can't control a NON-Native mosquito (west nile), and who is the only country on Earth right now being brought to its knees by a simple flu bug...


Vacation mode back on... see ya in a week.
25 Shed-time (#) Jan 16th, 2013 - 11:02 am Report abuse
@24 Your 'fave' country (which you don't seem to live in) is categorically furked. You're not really in a position to mock others.
26 ChrisR (#) Jan 16th, 2013 - 04:24 pm Report abuse

Do you trolls not remember that cringe worthy rant that TMBOA gave about why argies should have the Malvinas back, this mythical place: good job she was not ranting about the Falklands, seeing as argies have never had them in the first place.

Anyway TMBOA, to demonstrate her mental health problems to the world, justified it because ‘our’ birds fly there and come back.

Guess why N. America has the West Nile Virus: YES, it is carried by infected birds and spread by mosquitoes feeding on the blood of the bird and then feeding on humans.

I would have thought more of you had you encouraged that vile bunch of desperate bums you call a government to carry out THEIR duty and eradicate the aedes aegypti mosquito (though any other varriant of aedes will carry the virus) primarily responsible for Dengue Fever from the NW of AG.

Unlike the West Nile Virus which is only fatal in subjects that have very poor health generally, Dengue Fever can KILL otherwise healthy people in all its guises. The hemorrhagic phase is particularly dangerous and can kill 15% of people who contract it.

So are you going to laugh at your our, despotic, country or just ignore the facts as usual?
27 agent999 (#) Jan 16th, 2013 - 04:53 pm Report abuse
Another crass comment.
28 Pirat-Hunter (#) Jan 16th, 2013 - 07:04 pm Report abuse
In Canada and US people who don't pay taxes go to jail or get deported, maybe this guy should be put in jail as an example, if CFK put him in jail she will get my vote Next elections.
#26 that's right we never had fakland because it is a British corporation, we have islas Malvinas Argentina a real island in the south of Argentina, and we will get it back as soon as Argentina builds a nuclear defense program 100% made in Argentina, it all matter of time now and Argentina's self determination dictates that UK and Us have no say in it, pari passu for all or justice for none.
29 Shed-time (#) Jan 16th, 2013 - 07:19 pm Report abuse
@28 There is no such thing as 'Malvinas Argentina' in the south of argentina. There are some islands called Falklands, a South Atlantic state that are 100's of miles off the shores of South America, but no such thing as what you are suggesting.

You seem to be having some kind of delusion, dreaming of islands that don't exist.
30 Anglotino (#) Jan 16th, 2013 - 07:24 pm Report abuse
Looks like Nostrolldamus's mum only gives him one visit to the local Internet cafe per week. Funny coz I haven't used one of those for years and yet still have Internet access no matter where I go.

And it's obviously not enough time to jump on thesaurus.com either. LOL
31 Shed-time (#) Jan 16th, 2013 - 07:36 pm Report abuse
@30 I'm not convinced that he ever leaves his basement. I think that to do so they would need quite supportive lifting equipment.
32 Mendoza Canadian (#) Jan 17th, 2013 - 10:33 am Report abuse
Hey Pirat...you are a war-monger. By the way...how much is your government pay cheque....????
33 British_Kirchnerist (#) Jan 17th, 2013 - 01:53 pm Report abuse
ProRGAmerican, if you're reading this, what are your thought? I saw on another thread that was already closed so I couldn't reply, that you predicted the next “ruler” (in reply to some of the haters' usual hysteria about Maximo) would be Scioli. However despite his manouevering to stay int he same big tent party as Cristina (and his attempts at the moment to seem like a more tolerant figure in the party, which to me just seems like positioning which will evaporate if he gets power, and a dodging of the real issues which Cristina is accused of authoritarianism for tackling head on), this latest piece of disloyalty points to why I've always worried about his conservatism and the problem of remaining in a party which could swing to such a right wing figure. Of course the dollar clamp isn't a point of principle that must last forever, but to undermine it now ist to take the side of the rich and international finance against Cristina and the majority of the people. And if he was President would he remain such a friend of the other LatAm leaders, as beautifully shown by Cristina's personal and close political solidarity with Chavez? At best he'd be a Pinera, unable to disengage from a left wing continent but never taking a leadership role in it. Surely Argentina deserves better, either a 3rd term for Cristina or a personally chosen successor for her, like Dilma succeeeded Lula? Timmerman, Alicia Castro, Kicillof? I'm sure there are others too. And whoever, if not Cristina, surely Cristina should stay active in another key political role to keep politics on the right track?
34 ChrisR (#) Jan 17th, 2013 - 04:22 pm Report abuse
@33 B_S_K

I suggest your final sentence should read 'to keep politics off the rails' if you want to be accurate.

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