Friday, January 18th 2013 - 06:12 UTC

Argentina thanks Indonesia for support on Falklands issue and blasts multilateral organizations

President Cristina Fernandez thanked Indonesia for the “permanent support” extended to Argentina in the “Malvinas cause” and reiterated that Argentina is only asking for the UK to respect and abide the United Nations resolution, but at the same time attacked multilateral organizations such as the UN and WTO for “favouring the great powers”.

Cristina Fernandez giving her message at Jakarta’s Presidential Palace

“I want to thank Indonesia and its people for the permanent support for the Malvinas cause” said Cristina Fernandez addressing her peer Susilo Yudhovono during her message following their private meeting at the presidential palace in Jakarta.

The Argentine president on a Far East tour to promote trade and investments, agreed with the Indonesia leader Yudhovono to increase trade, promote cooperation in agriculture, tourism, bio-energy, transport, sports, health and education among others.

“We are only asking the UK to respect UN resolutions”, which call on both sides to begin a dialogue on the Falklands/Malvinas sovereignty.

“We don’t pretend to impose any criteria, just simply demand compliance with the current rules of the game and this means abiding by UN resolutions” said the Argentine president at the end of her message at the Credential Hall of the Government Palace.

However the Argentine president questioned and described as “absolutely non equitable and unfair” the way resolutions are complied whether they involve a strong power or a developing country absent from the global scenario.

The UN, the World Trade Organization and other multilateral bodies whenever “a resolution favours a great power or developed country it must be respected by all countries, but when it favours countries that are not protagonists they are ignored, they are violated systematically and even exposed to ongoing provocations as we are submitted by the UK”.

Cristina Fernandez added that Malvinas is not only a national cause, “but also a global cause” because the relation of force to impose “is a method which belongs to the last century which has proven not to give results to humanity”

That is why it is essential to “reformulate the rules of the game for the multilateral organizations”, which Cristina Fernandez underlined is a shared claim for Argentina and Indonesia.

“We have very similar points of view regarding the need to reformulate rules of the game for the multilateral organizations, particularly those referred to trade, and those that also deal with political multilateral bodies”.

Cristina Fernandez is travelling with a delegation of two hundred business people and the next call is Vietnam. Bilateral trade with Indonesia is in the range of almost two billion dollars. Indonesia provides products for industry and general merchandise valued at 1.5bn while Argentina exports over 400 million dollars mainly oil seeds and cereals.

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1 Escoses Doido (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 06:24 am Report abuse
malvinas a global cause?

I'll crack the jokes around here!
2 Gordo1 (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 06:50 am Report abuse
What sort of support? The average Indonesian citizen does not even know where Argentina is let alone the Falkland Islands!

More verbal diarrhoea from la Kretina!
3 Joe Bloggs (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 07:04 am Report abuse

Do you reckon CFK will come back from Indonesia with a T-shirt that says “I've been to Bali too” written on it?

Could any Malvinista on here please explain what sort of tangible support Indonesia will give CFK over the Falklands? Or is is more like my family's support for the Arsenal FC? We've never bought a ticket for a match, any official merchandise or been members of the club. But we support them!

I sure did pick the wrong time to go to the UK. It's bloody freezing. Don't like my chances of getting back out of here on time according to the forecasts either.
4 Idlehands (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 07:09 am Report abuse
Jakarta Globe report: mention of the Falklands

Jakarta Post: mention of the Falklands

A different article: mention of the Falklands

Have a google - I can't find any that do.
5 reality check (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 07:10 am Report abuse
Argetina thanks ( Insert name ) for their support in this global issue.
6 Xect (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 07:45 am Report abuse
Seems the lying propaganda machine is in overdrive. You always know how badly the Argentine government/country is doing by how loud they are shouting about the Falkland Islands.
7 Britworker (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 08:18 am Report abuse
She implies that they have taken her side, if I had met with her and I hadn't expressly stated that I was taking her side on the issue and she goes on to report in the press that I had, I would be furious.
This is why people don't trust her or her country.
8 Usurping Pirate (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 08:45 am Report abuse
Did she have to treat Susilo Yudhovono to a choripan for his support ?
It seems the only way she can get people to support her .
9 Orbit (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 09:00 am Report abuse
I think there is no mention in the press because Indonesia values the direct and indirect aid it receives from the UK over the scary ranting lady's empty promises (again). The government was being diplomatic, and so nodded at the appropriate moments but was unsure and pretty hacked off that the visit to their shores was not about them, but was usurped into a distraction ploy for Argentina's internal issues.
10 Anglotino (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 09:23 am Report abuse
Yes Indonesia has a special take on decolonisation. Just ask the peoples of West Papua and East Timor.

And Joe, let's just hope her souvenir was Bali belly!
11 agent999 (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 09:49 am Report abuse
Ii is always the same.
“following their private meeting” - warning - “never have a private meeting with her”
We never actually hear these statements direct from these countries leaders, it is always Cristina's fanciful interpretation of her meetings with them.
12 Raven (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 10:11 am Report abuse
@ Joe Bloggs

You should be ok if you are flying from Stanstead. They were the only London airport operating in similar conditions last time whilst Heathrow and Gatwick just became incompetent and got snowed in.

Back to the piece...

“We don’t pretend to impose any criteria, just simply demand''

She's right, Argentina doesn't pretend, it's just the first thing in the Temporary Provisions of the Argentine Constitution.

Oh, and there was that word DEMAND mentioned again
13 Shed-time (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 10:35 am Report abuse
@12 and we all know you shouldn't give in to the 'demands 'of terrorists such as Argentina.

.. and la Campora, Quebracho, Front for Fail, Vatayon Militante... etc
14 Foxtrot Indigo (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 11:23 am Report abuse
So the UK giving the Falklands almost total self governance “is a method which belongs to the last century which has proven not to give results to humanity” but Argentina can colonize the Falklands against the wishes of its people because that's ok......I think I'll stick to the UK thanks CFK
15 Steve-33-uk (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 11:26 am Report abuse
'The Falklands publish referendum proposal for March vote'
16 Shed-time (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 11:58 am Report abuse
@14 a relationship based upon 'free association' is, as per the UN's charter a suitable conclusion to colonialism. Unfortunately the Argentines and their fell cabal don't really like the UN, its charter, nor its underlying principles.

It makes us all wonder why they are even allowed to be in the UN anyways.

Better just to ignore them.
17 Martin Woodhead (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 12:00 pm Report abuse
Well another country that tried stealing somebodys other country and got a kicking off the UK.
Tbf some of them did hang about to fight ghurkhas which is more than could be said of argentina
18 Boovis (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 12:25 pm Report abuse
CFK: the uk are militarising the falklands
Ind: really? they have new kit?
CFK: I guess so, why do you ask?
Ind: oh, no reason...
CFK: so, you support our cause?
Ind: (lost in thought) Hmm? Oh, yeah sure, whatever...

The next day...

Ind: Hi Phil, how are things:
UK defence minister Phillip Hammond: all's well, want to buy some military kit, some training from our troops and conduct some joint naval excercises for a giggle?
Ind: you bet your arse i do!


CFK: I wonder if Top Shop Jakarta is still open...? That reminds me, I need to get Junior a new Mu-mu.
19 Clyde15 (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 12:30 pm Report abuse
For those, like me, who know little of Argentine politics, this is an interesting article in today's B.A.Herald.
20 Steveu (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 12:34 pm Report abuse
@19 Wow! That certainly pulled no punches!
21 ptolemy (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 01:20 pm Report abuse
This woman just spreads hate and lies, always using someone else to do her dirty work.
22 willi1 (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 01:37 pm Report abuse
“...they are ignored, they are violated systematically and even exposed to ongoing provocations...” YES! As we - the cheaten creditors of arg - arg ignored by this unique housewife! Crazy lady - in all corners of the world she is spreading her bullshit.
23 andy65 (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 01:41 pm Report abuse
”We are only asking the UK to respect UN resolutions”, which call on both sides to begin a dialogue on the Falklands/Malvinas sovereignty.

“We don’t pretend to impose any criteria, just simply demand compliance with the current rules of the game and this means abiding by UN resolutions” said the Argentine president at the end of her message at the Credential Hall of the Government Palace.

24 Pirate Love (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 01:48 pm Report abuse
@19 mafia rule, interesting to see how the country, and crustinas government will play out when the squeeze becomes a crush, another conflict? more nationalisation? genocide of destitute protestors? breakaway provinces?
Argentine spring???

all foreign companies in argentina should at least look to its neighbours, as a plan B, after all argentinas investment,transparency and security rating amongst other ratings has taken a massive nose dive in the past 12 months a very risky enviroment for foreign investment in argentina.

And gladly its going to get worse for her government!

25 Steve-33-uk (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 01:50 pm Report abuse
@19 Clyde15
Great Link.
I just hope she doesn't try anything stupid, before they boot her out.
26 Escoses Doido (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 01:51 pm Report abuse
Naturlich SS-Obersturmbannfuhrer Fernandez/Kirchner!!
27 Shed-time (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 01:55 pm Report abuse
“Why Führer Kirchner, with these inconsistent arguments, you're really spoiling us”
28 Shedtime (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 03:26 pm Report abuse
shut up you silly british asshole!
29 andy65 (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 03:39 pm Report abuse
So seeing there was no similar propoganda statement when SS Kirchner was in The UAE are we to believe that the Emire rightly told SS Kirchner to Fack off and stop causing trouble??
30 Shed-time (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 03:56 pm Report abuse
@29 The UAE are quite happy with their British colonial past, saving them from the turks and all. They probably just see the Argentines as very very sour, because their current colonisers are germans.
31 mickey5hins (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 03:57 pm Report abuse
Indonesian government, through the ministry of defense will purchase three multi-role light frigates from Britain.
32 andy65 (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 04:01 pm Report abuse
@Shed-time That was obvious by the Argentine silance on The Falklands on this part of Kirchners Holiday,I don't think The Germans are very keen on her mind you I believe Germany recently voted negatively against Argentina at some kind of IMF meeting
33 Searinox (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 04:36 pm Report abuse
Mercopress ¿could you be more obvious? UN miltiraleral Organization? really? i'm wondering what kind of multilateralism could be in 5 permanent members with Veto Right...please mercopress, please...
34 Faulconbridge (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 04:53 pm Report abuse
“I want to thank Indonesia and its people for the permanent support for the Malvinas cause” ...“and in return we'll support Indonesia's murderous occupation of Papua.” she didn't need to say.
35 Searinox (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 04:57 pm Report abuse
34# what about Chagos Island...or Afganistan, didnt need to say that?
36 Faulconbridge (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 05:16 pm Report abuse
No, Searimox, I dindn't need to say that.
About 250,000 dead in Papua and a third of the population of East Timor killed. No doubt the Argentine military are eager to learn from the indonesians.
37 Searinox (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 05:26 pm Report abuse
don't worry if argentine military are eager to learn from anyone about killing, they should do it from the British...british are experts on that...
38 Faulconbridge (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 05:36 pm Report abuse
“if argentine military are eager to learn from anyone about killing, they should do it from the British...british are experts on that...”
...not at throwing civiliams out of aeroplanes, though.
39 Conqueror (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 05:41 pm Report abuse
@8 What's a choripan? Is it a blow job? Deep throat? Or demanding to get it in the ass? As well!
@16 Just as a thought. Shouldn't a member that fails to comply with a mandatory Security Council resolution be expelled? For ever?
@19 Terrific article. Thanks for the link. Will the dumb arsies, including malvinistas, listen? Doubtful. That is good! Just a little while and they won't exist. But let's not be silly and send British aid. At least, not until the population is down to a million! Or is that too many?
@23 What's wrong with the SAS? Why isn't she dead?
@33 Try to understand. Five nations - China, France, Russia, UK, USA - that suffered from the nazis and their slant-eyed pals. Five nations that put their existence on the line. Five nations that fought through, some more than others - delete France, Russia and USA - and won! Note that France was mostly a Nazi colony. Russia stole many countries until the Nazis attacked in 1941. USA couldn't be bothered until attacked by Japan. Pretty pointless until 1942. When WW2 was half won. Who put its entire wealth, its very existence on the line? Couldn't be understood by arsieland. No guts.
Important words: We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender,
WE haven't changed. A simple bit of advice for arsieland: If we have nothing else, we will send the people of Britain. Armed with knives, forks and maybe even spoons. We will use the knives to cut your throats, the forks to stab holes in you and the spoons to scoop out your eyes. We will turn you into slime. We will smash your skulls under our boots. Live or die. Your choice! Please choose to die! Killing argies is a mission.
40 Richfe (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 05:54 pm Report abuse
Conq...have you forgotten to take the tablets the doctor prescribed again?
41 Raven (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 05:57 pm Report abuse
@ Conq

That last paragraph is way out of line.
42 Frank (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 06:46 pm Report abuse
When this mad cow visits these foreign leaders I am sure that the last thing she does as she is being shown the door is mumble in spanish 'malvinas.... ours...thanks for your support... make sure you put that in the press statement, Diego'. The head of state hears nothing as he is too busy thinking..'thank fuck the mad bitch has gone....' This is why this support only ever gets a mention in the RG press.

I trust that when in Vietnam she will offer reciprocal support to them in their claim to the Spratlys.
43 GeoffWard2 (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 06:56 pm Report abuse
“.. the UN and WTO for “favouring the great powers”.”
The great world-scale agencies of stability are not favouring the 'great powers', as CFK suggests.
They are simply 'dis-favouring' renegade states who do not play by the rules of the game. The world simply cannot operate as an integrated whole if there are too many rogue states.
A frequent - or even an occasional - collapse of world-stability will confer on many societies catastrophies of biblical proportions. Think in terms of the Horses of the Apocalypse - Conquest, War, Famine, and Death.
44 andy65 (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 07:24 pm Report abuse
Do Argentines really understand how stupid this woman makes you all look?? and do they understand the phrase PAYING HER LIP SERVICE??? when this woman belives she is somehow getting SUPPORT for her cause all these other leaders are saying is Just Agree With Her And Get Rid Of The Bitch, serious do you really think Indonesia gives a RATS ASS about SS Hitler Kirchners colonial dreams???
45 briton (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 07:26 pm Report abuse
It had to happen,
We knew she could not visit at least one country without crying and thanking them for their support

Who cares about who supports argentina,,
You need them to back you up and take them,
Not promise you caviar that turns to jam.

They are British, like it or lump it.

46 Brit Bob (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 08:42 pm Report abuse
Yes- More lip service for the Botox Queen. Words are cheap and she's been had. LOL.
47 andy65 (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 09:04 pm Report abuse
I would love to be a fly on the wall so to see how she approaches the subject
48 GFace (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 09:26 pm Report abuse
@10/36: Ah yes, the Falklands and East Timor. What a common cause for a pair of failed jackboots missing the human faces on which they once stomped and doing everything they can to justify a chance to dance on their faces again. Unrepentant and irredeemable.
49 Marcos Alejandro (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 10:03 pm Report abuse
“I want to thank Indonesia and its people for the permanent support for the Malvinas cause” said Cristina Fernandez addressing her peer Susilo Yudhovono during her message following their private meeting at the presidential palace in Jakarta.

Another victory for Argentina.
50 Anbar (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 10:12 pm Report abuse
@49 You're welcome to as many of those “victories” as you want old chap.

...and the Falklands Islanders will hang to theirs from '82
51 GFace (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 10:32 pm Report abuse
How is this a victory. Indonesia put their boot down on East Timor's face and fails. Argentina put their boot down on the Falklands' face and fails. Now they are in agreement that it's just not fair that people don't like it when they step on them. Of course they don't. And the jackboots inevitably and incessantly demand to be seen as the victim of the liberated.
52 Britninja (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 10:38 pm Report abuse
Marcos considers it a victory when he avoids stabbing himself in the eye with his toothbrush. He's not the brightest spark.
53 briton (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 10:51 pm Report abuse
she want the UN to change all the rules in Argentines favour,
or no dice,

this is her agreements
her way, or no way
wahh wahh .
54 andy65 (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 01:05 am Report abuse
@Marcos Alejandro, Does old Crissy the botox Queen pay you to make yourself look stupid?? you really do talk a load of BOLLOCKS
55 ptolemy (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 03:22 am Report abuse
I think Cristina trying to have a showdown in the UN and that's her real plan, to force a vote in the UN as soon as she has BS'd enough countries. It's a bit like someone running around telling lies and gossip about you to whom ever will listen.Suddenly there might to be a mob at your front door. It would do well for the UK to study her heinous type of politics. She has a pattern.
56 HansNiesund (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 07:59 am Report abuse
The UN was of course founded by the victors of WW II, and had Argentina chosen to join in the fight against Nazism and the imperialism it claims to so nobly oppose, it might well have gained its own seat at the top table.

Unfortunately, declaring war against Hitler after his defeat doesn't really cut it as the major sacrifice necessary. And one may wonder indeed what Argentina is doing in the UN at all, since it clearly rejects two of the most fundamental principles of the organisation, namely the peaceful resolution of disputes, and the right of self-determination.

But then again, standards at the UN aren't all that high. It's not like the IMF or the WTO, for example, where you're expected to tell the truth and respect the rules you've signed up to.
57 Conqueror (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 01:50 pm Report abuse
@41 Why? If you were to keep up, you would find that I now place the population of the south eastern latin america into one of two groups. One group I refer to as Argentines. These are sane, sensible, intelligent people who can read, think for themselves, reason and are much like other civilised people. The other group I refer to as arsies. I used to call them argies, but then I decided to be more accurately descriptive. These are largely insane, or brainwashed, or both. They may have heard of the word “intelligent” but that's as far as it goes. They may be able to read but they can only read what they're told to read. This tends to be limited to material produced by the “government” and banners. Thinking is also something they do rarely and never well. Reasoning is also beyond them. As an example, the ability to reason that one plus one equals two. This inability is often demonstrated on this very board. In 1831, after the visit of the USS Lexington to the Falkland Islands, there were about 24 people left on the Islands. In 1833, when the illegal United Provinces garrison for the illegal United Provinces penal colony was required to leave, the records show that 4 civilians went with it. Amazingly, when arsies recount this incident, they have trouble reasoning that twenty-four minus four leaves twenty. As a result, their account always ends with the entire United Provinces settlement being expelled. I, and many others, have spent years pointing out that this is incorrect and is not supported by any evidence. But, if you look at recent pronouncements by CFK, you can see that, according to arsie “reasoning”, twenty four minus four still equals zero. By any reasonable standard, anyone that can't reason is sub-human. Reason is what distinguishes homo sapiens from animals. What do you do when you have a large group of vicious animals threatening a human population?
58 slattzzz (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 07:09 pm Report abuse
“and i'd like to thank my dead husband,Vietnam, Korea, some bloke with a towel on his head, brazil, venezula, Britain no that's not right, Hector who wrote this and why are those people laughing at me?”
59 briton (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 07:48 pm Report abuse
[ CFK Says ]
Argentina thanks Indonesia for support on Falklands issue,

We would like to thank Indonesia to buying [ 3 ] frigates from Britain

that’s the value of true friends,
not CFK puppets.

[ long live great britain.]
60 reality check (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 08:47 pm Report abuse
I see they showed her around the Viet Cong tunnel systems, TRBOA must have felt at home!

TRBOA. The Rat Bitch of you know where!
61 slattzzz (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 09:21 pm Report abuse
Indonesia has already sealed contracts with the British defence industry on supply of parts for Hawk jets and Scorpion battle tanks. OH dear CFK the horse has bolted again, what next? Why don't you try to buy some BRITISH technology we have 4 type 42's up for sale, on second thoughts FUCK OFF
62 Shed-time (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 09:44 pm Report abuse
When reasonable, the falklands should consider buying a set of hawks for their dad's army home guard. The latest ones would still probably pyss all over whatever the argies currently have.

I still think they need to set up a flying school there. It's not like there is any real danger of hitting anything (high buildings, other planes)
63 Rob the argentine (#) Jan 20th, 2013 - 04:43 am Report abuse
TREMBLE WITH FEAR, brits!!!! Indonesia (as Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea and a few more) supports Argentina. LOL
64 briton (#) Jan 20th, 2013 - 08:29 pm Report abuse
TREMBLE WITH FEAR, the brits are here,
And the Argies run for the hills.

They sob and weep,
Whilst living with sheep,
and sing baa baa in their sleep.

The lion is awake
And roars with pride
And growls at little bo peep

The argie tremble rattle an roll,
And all end up in a heap…

just a sleepy
65 LEPRecon (#) Jan 21st, 2013 - 06:02 pm Report abuse
I can imagine the scene.

CFK. “Will you support us over our sovereignty claim to the Malvina's?”

Yudhovono: “Er..The Mavlina's?” Aside to an aide in a whisper, “Where are the Malvina's?”

Aide in a whisper back. “Don't know, we can't find it on any map. I think it's a made-up place.”

Yudhovono to CFK. “Of course we support you over the Malvina's.” CFK squeals with joy missing the last part of his sentence...“but we do support Britain over the Falkland Islands...” :)
66 Boovis (#) Jan 22nd, 2013 - 08:04 am Report abuse
In 2011, Indonesia stated the following ”HASAN KLEIB (Indonesia) said his delegation had always strongly upheld that uniform and universal criteria could not be applied to every situation of the decolonization question, as every case was unique. That was demonstrated in the case of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas), as the historical and political backgrounds of Argentina and the United Kingdom did not fit the so-called “traditional” decolonization scenarios. The General Assembly resolutions on the question encouraged both parties to seek a peaceful settlement and urged accelerated negotiations, with the objective of reaching an early agreement corresponding to the best interest of the Islands’ population. Indonesia called upon the Governments of Argentina and the United Kingdom to take advantage of the “solid relationship” established between them through the years, and to renew negotiations. The delegation further hoped that the draft resolution, which it would support, would be adopted by consensus.“

In what way does that support the Argie claim? If anything it just says ”we hope you both talk but whatever you decide should be in the islanders' interests”, no?

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