Falklands does not discard a referendum on ‘full independence in the future’
If at the coming referendum, the Falkland Islands wish to remain a UK Overseas Territory, retaining the current status and preserving the right to self-determination, which would allow the Falkland Islands to review its status at any time, “this could include full independence in the future”, points out the booklet “On the future of the Falkland Islands”.
The explicative booklet released on Friday by the Falkland Islands elected government in support of the confirmation of the date and question of the coming referendum, explains to voters the current political situations in the Falklands and Argentina, the reason for calling the referendum and what Yes or No means for the future.
Follows the text of the booklet:
On the 10th and 11th March 2013, there will be a referendum on the political future of the Falkland Islands. This booklet explains the referendum, and what your vote would mean.
What is a referendum?
A referendum is a general vote by the electorate on a single political question. This particular referendum is a consultative referendum and is being held to seek your opinion on the political status of the Falkland Islands.
Why are we having this referendum?
The United Kingdom has sovereignty of the Falkland Islands. Argentina meanwhile claims that the Islands are theirs, and have requested that the UK Government enter into negotiations over this sovereignty. The UK Government support the Falkland Islanders’ right of self-determination, allowing the people of the Falkland Islands to decide their future. The Argentine Government states that it does not believe that the Islanders have this right and, as evidenced in their Constitution, claim full sovereignty of the Islands.
The purpose of this referendum is to give Falkland Islanders the opportunity to clearly state, through an open and observed democratic process, what they wish the political status of the Falkland Islands to be.
What is the question?
A referendum asks you to vote yes or no to a proposal. For this referendum, you will receive a ballot paper with this question:
The current political status of the Falkland Islands is that they are an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom. The Islands are internally self-governing, with the United Kingdom being responsible for matters including defence and foreign affairs. Under the Falkland Islands Constitution the people of the Falkland Islands have the right to self-determination, which they can exercise at any
time. Given that Argentina is calling for negotiations over the sovereignty of the Falkland Islands, this referendum is being undertaken to consult the people regarding their views on the political status of the Falkland Islands. Should the majority of votes cast be against the current status, the Falkland Islands Government will undertake necessary consultation and preparatory work in order to conduct a further referendum on alternative options.
Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current politicalstatus as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?
YES or NO
What is the current political status of the Falkland Islands?
The Falkland Islands are one of 14 Overseas Territories (OTs) of the UK. Each of these OTs has its own constitution, its own government and its own local laws. They are therefore all different and there is no blueprint for the administration of the OTs. But there are some common themes, which of course apply to the Falkland Islands. These themes are described in detail in the June 2012 White Paper [The Overseas Territories: Security Success and Sustainability] (http://bit.ly/LiPmM9).
In short, the relationship between the UK and its OTs is based on the principles of selfdetermination and autonomy, whilst recognising mutual responsibility and a pledge of UK support when needed. The relationship between the Falkland Islands and the UK is essentially described in the Falkland Islands Constitution Order 2008
(http://bit.ly/V5LqDt). This spells out the degree of autonomy of the Falkland Islands Government whilst also describing the responsibilities of the UK towards the Islands.
The UK Government maintains a long-standing position on independence for the OTs, recognising that any decision to sever the constitutional link between the UK and an OT should be on the basis of the wishes of the people of the OT. Where independence is an option and it is the clear and constitutionally expressed wish of the people to pursue independence, the UK Government will meet its obligation to help the OT achieve this aim.
What is the Argentine position on the Falkland Islands?
The Argentine Constitution (http://bit.ly/zvdOvm), as amended in 1994, is clear that the Argentine Government claims full sovereignty over the Falkland Islands:
“The Argentine Nation ratifies its legitimate and non-prescribing sovereignty over the Malvinas, Georgias del Sur and Sandwich del Sur Islands and over the corresponding maritime and insular zones, as they are an integral part of the National territory. The recovery of said territories and the full exercise of sovereignty, respectful of the way of life of their inhabitants and according to the principles of international law, are a permanent and unrelinquished goal of the Argentine people.”
What does a YES vote mean?
If more people vote ‘yes’ than ‘no’ then the Falkland Islands Government will confirm to the UK government that the Falkland Islands wish to remain a UK Overseas Territory, retaining the current status and preserving the right to self-determination, which would allow the Falkland Islands to review its status at any time. This could include full independence in the future.
What does a NO vote mean?
If more people vote ‘no’ than ‘yes’ then Falkland Islands Government will undertake further consultation and preparatory work leading to a further referendum on alternative options. These alternatives would be representative of public opinion, as identified through open and free consultation.
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This is what I keep trying to tell our RG posters, its not a question of if its a question of when.
Nothing much would change in the FI, strong links would still be maintained with the UK and commonwealth and the UK would maintain a military base.
“Jajajajaja!!!!! Tell me another joke!”
What about TMBOA sinking you economy?
Making AG the laughing stock of the World?
Confirming to all the foreign investors that they will lose their money faster than TMBOA can re-plasticise her hideous face?
Thieving money from every argie?
Travelling the World in a British luxury jet because AG cannot risk Tango 01 being confiscated to pay your creditors?
Confiscating the shareholders assets in YPF with no compensation then YPF going into a tailspin on lack of oil and gas production levels?
There are SIX real laugh a minute jokes for the rest of the World to enjoy!
Not too funny when you live in the shithole you call Argentina though, is it?
SS Hitler Cristina Kirchner (love that Spanish name) for being such a prick and the love of botox is shameful
Argentina for electing such a prick as there leader
The jokes go on but I will be kind on this occasion.
OK
Argentina honours its debts and is the land of the brave.
I see that Union Jack is still flying proudly over the Falkland Islands and the UK's other extensive South Atlantic territories and maritime space.
Can't see that changing anytime soon.
what do we imagine argentina might do in the same situation?
Pitcairn Island (pop 49) No original inhabitants and settled by the Bounty mutineers. What does the C24 suggest? Independence? They would be hard pushed to form a football team, much less a fully fledged independent govt. So C24 what are your ideas?
Tristan da Cunha (pop 269) Again no aborigine population. In 1961 the entire popaltion was evacuated to UK following a volcanic eruption. They were very unhappy in UK and voted to return to thier island home and to hell with the volcano
Ascension Island (pop 873), most of whom are transient. A barren rock in mid Atlantic which subsists because of Wideawake airfield
St Helena (pop 6,600) A BOT with an elected parliamentary assembly which has delegated certain matters to the Uk govt but which can declare thier independence should they so wish
The Falklands No aboriginal inhabitants and a duly elected parliament to manage thier own affairs. Need I go on?
As for the uninhabited islands such as South Georgia (btw Marcos slipped up there didnt you? Its called something else in Spanish) Argentina has as much claim to it as the Mexicans do to the French Clipperton Island
So can anyone tell me what is the C24 practical solution to the decolonization of these so called colonies?
The UN C24 is corrupt and has been infiltrated by Argentina, bringing their friends in as members. But hopefully the BOT's will be boycotting this circus from now on.
@11 XAVIERV
I do not understand what you are trying to say?
Im not surprised that Indonesia pays lip service to Argentinas claims. They have had a few expansionist imperial problems of thier own. The covert invasion of Borneo, the independence movement in West Irian and not least East Timor, recently independent and decolonised
She would do better thinking about the 25% of her people that live on $7 per day
A. Because we can and
B. Because it will wind up the Rg's
very silly move,
look who is living next door,
very silly move,
move on please.
Of course for C24, it's not a problem, it's a feature. With the mutually agreeable equilibrium between the territories and their sponsor state, they can continue to claim a purpose, reject the local's right to self-determination, and even self-represetnation in the C24 and continue the arrogant role as Big Blue Father.
The whole criteria is up the pole. The Dutch terretories in the Carribean for instance. For instance some of them voted to become autonomous UNDER THE DUTCH CROWN, while others elected to become municipalities of mainland Holland. Then there is French Guiana an overseas department of mainland France. They were given the oppotunity to vote on their future staus but elected to stay as they were
Bit like the FI situation really So why arent there terretories on the C24 hitlist? Beats me. Anybody care to explain?
“Independence means having your own army and not hide under the skirt of Queen ..”
Iceland , a small sovreign nation and NATO member, does not maintain significant armed forces - so why should the Falkland Isles, should they choose full independence.
However, as Iceland - should they become a NATO member, they will be afforded protection.
Why are they breaking all the rules of democracy to build their very own imperialist empire with argentine colonies?
hypercrit to the last..
But it's easy, I propose now claim for Argentina the present territory of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and also carry out the amendment of the Constitution Argentina in this regard. So “respectful” and “democratic”, as the “British”, would call the 60 million Britons a referendum given to Argentina's claim to decide whether to continue with its current political situation YES or NO and if NO what other alternatives would like.
Again, what twisted mentality with these pirates.
They say to give the appearance of legitimacy, will present the results to the United Nations, but one wonders with what face? I suppose that the presentation would go to file Malvinas / Falklands along with more than 40 resolutions calling itself the negotiations, as further evidence of unresolved conflict of sovereignty between Britain and the Republic Argentina.
15 Conqueror
Quiet!, You were born in the Malvinas Islands? Yes? Then you are ARGENTINE! Ja, ja, ja!
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHWHo cares..
MALVINAS ARGENTINAS..
uk is FINISHED!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbLfje8_jgI
Many thanks and can you do it quickly rather than ignoring it.
In fact to save time, you could just provide a copy of any resolution that says Britain is supposed to negotiate the transfer of sovereignity over the Falklands to Argentina.
If you can't manage that, you could try a copy of any resolution that says there have to be negotiations specifically on sovereignity, that the islanders are to be excluded from any such negotiations, and that the principle of sovereignity doesn't apply.
And failing that, try a copy of any UN resolution that states Britain is in breach of any UN resolution.
If you get stuck in your reading, try asking Ban-ki Moon, I'm sure he'll set you straight.
Hello Malvi, who are you today?
Taking your medication, are you?
So pleased to see you happy & gay(old meaning!).
We know that Argentina is finished, so solly,so solly.
You both have my sympathy.
“and that the principle of sovereignity doesn't apply.”
I meant, of course, “and that the principle of self-determination doesn't apply”.
This will be 'respect' counter model style, similar to the way Warsaw and polish culture was treated circa 1944. Particularly if fat max is put in charge.
We only have to look at the c24 meet for evidence; CFK and timerman treated the falkland island delegation with utter contempt. They had the opportunity to show grace and statesmanship, which might even have helped their case, but they aren't capable of that. So reverted to arrogant ignorance, which they excel at.
Look at the map.It is a matter of geography as well as soveriegnty...Falkands myst have self-determination, and Argentina as well as South America must change or remain 19/20th Century thinkers in a very rapidly changing climatic ,as well as political world. Its a practical Proposition, not one for silly schoolchildren vindictiveness or illiterate comment from badly educated people(those that rise to this...well, if the cap fits, wear it.,
Plus they tried to sink my arse 30 years ago, so fook em
When do you think you'll be giving us a response?
The UK is in violation of NO UN resolutions, BKM said so explicitly and you don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that it is AR that is in breach of the only resolution that matters and their actions in 82 nullified any prior non-binindgs and indeed any vestige of a moral claim on the FI by AR (just as DEU has no moral or any other claim on East Prussia). And I don't understand what what you would assume that I think otherwise. The only reason I'd like to see “direct talks” would be to see AR be told directly across a table by the FIG (not a London rep from the UK) to take their colonial aspirations and shove it and since AR won't even acknowledge them. Sadly, I will be eternally frustrated in that respect, because the look on the AR delegation faces when the UK transferred the floor to the FIG would be comedy gold.
Any cursory review of my comments would make my stance on that clear, I'd think.
@7 No. “Independence is a condition of a nation, country, or state in which its residents and population, or some portion thereof, exercise self-government, and usually sovereignty, over the territory.” Andorra, Costa Rica, Grenada, Kiribati, Liechstenstein, Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Nauru, Palau, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Samoa, Solomon Islands, Tuvalu and Vatican City are all independent. None have an army!
@18 Stop using Google translate. It's making you look more stupid than you are naturally.
@19 Go ahead. No concern of ours. But bear in mind that you have to have an army. Javi says so!
@21 Please try using the mind that you don't have.
@22 Prick!
@30 Are you sure? I thought they were just there for the extra foreign holidays at someone else's expense.
@36 Remember the Picton, Lennox and Nueva islands. Three other islands that arsieland tried to steal. Remember all the “incidents”, the arbitration decision that arsieland rejected, the direct negotiations, the attempt to occupy the islands, the papal mediation, the Falklands War? And the result? The islands belong to Chile. I don't know of anybody born in “Malvinas Islands”. They are a fantasy, a myth. But I AM British. Figure it out.
@38 Keyboard stuck again? A common problem with a NEW solution. Place it in the middle of the road. Go back for it next week.
@45 Why? What's wrong with arsieland imploding? There was a time when Buenos Aires thought it could be a country all by itself. Let's replace arsieland with 23 smaller countries?
I just got horribly confused, my apologies.
It would save a lot of misunderstandings. I have seen several of these in the past. If they changed the policy of not being able to post if you have the last comment, that would be a start as you could at least put out an amendment.
Hopefully the moderator(s) will see this comment and take this on board.
axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_64333.shtml
www.fihplc.com/index.php?section=0
abcnews.go.com/Blotter/algeria-terrorists-trade-us-hostages-blind-sheikh/story?id=18247667
1, prove it
2, prove it
3 prove it
All the rest = prove it,
You cant, just like your leader you just talk,
And for the thousands watching this blog,
They laugh at you indocronoughts,
And just like pirate hunter
You talk , brag , and garble,
Yet prove nothing,
The Falklands are British, full stop.
.
“ Wake up Argentina or we will end up like Palestine illegally occupied by vritish Jews. Long live CFK and death to the thieves in Malvinas Argentina.”
ALEX - you are clearly showing that you are a RACIST again, and ANTI-SEMITIC, as well.
Do you READ AND UNDERSTAND history and world events?
Are you referring to the PALESTINIAN EXODUS?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus
The Palestinians were only angry at the British because they withdrew after losing many British lives to Israeli terrorist attacks. The British were in fact, trying to protect the Palestinians from Israeli incursions into the Arab section of Palestine, as partitioned by the UN.
The UN, the same body that CFK demands hand over The Falklands to Argentina.
history.state.gov/milestones/1945-1952/ArabIsraeliWar
Now, you would have the British miltary withdraw from The Falklands, a forced exodus of the current inhabitants, a self-governing culture and people who have lived there for nearly 200 years and going back many generations, to make room for 'settlers' who have no legal claim to the territory??
Is that the example you wanted to make?
You are a racist puppet of the CFK foreign aggressors.
I looked on the La Campora website recently and there facing me was an interview with that Argentine legal academic who used to comment on here before he got sick of basically being wrong all the time. I remember lurking back then and seeing that even he didn't seem to attribute his comments to any kind of academic paper.
Do these folks not understand!?!
“all terrorist occupying other nations must be executed”
And the land that Argentina “Forcibly stripped” from it's neighbours? Are you, Argentine Terrorists, going to burn in hell too?
Aren't La Campora, Quebracho, Vatayon militante and 'The Condors' all state sponsored terrorists? Their job is to terrorise people, and they're paid for by the state.
Because they terrorise British people, you could even class them as state-sponsored international terrorists. Guantanamo awaits their leaders (eh, Maximo).
Hopefully by then, Argentina will have broken up into about 6 or 7 different manageable countries & perhaps Sta Cruz & Chubut are Falkland lsland Overseas Territories.
Boy are they going to take some re-educating!
mmmmmm, I wonder.... Re-invent the present, ignore the past, ignore the truth.... Yep that is pretty much SOP isn't it?
Because “La Campora, Quebracho, Vatayon militante and 'The Condors' all state sponsored terrorists” does that now mean that they are part of the axis of evil???
The best deal in 2013 : BUY A BRIT FOR HIS REAL VALUE BASED IN WHAT HE REALLY OWNS( DO NOT INCLUDE YOUR QUEEN'S DOGS) AND SELL IT FOR THE SIZE OF HIS EGO. It is the only thing he has big that is way he has NUCLEAR WEAPONS.( Sigmund Froyd, last essay about the English man)
“I am British” says this disturbed and pretend to be judge and jury in the territorial dispute the fool ...
Regarding the Picton, Lenox and New, What!!!!!???????????
”#69, JoséMal, maybe you pretend to ignore or to change the real history. Those were islands we (Argentina) tried to take from Chile. They went to ICJ and Argentina lost the lawsuit. Remember now?”
Good one, Rob !!
Thanks for that.
The Actual joke goes ( and present company accepted, Respect, Rob the argentine ):- How do you make a quick profit? Buy an Argentine for what he is worth and sell him for what he thinks he is worth.
As for your other comment about Sigmund “Freud” I am pretty sure that he didn't mention Nuclear weapons in any of his papers or essays. If you have the proof that he did then please share it with the rest of us on the forum.
You know, you could do a lot worse than listen to what Rob the argentine is saying. He is making sense and you would do well to read and understand what he is saying... Now, hush.... the adults are talking.
Ha ha I will not agree, silly, if I am Argentine, but I repeat:
“Regarding the Picton, Lenox and New, What!!!???????????”
go go go .
Just as Ossetia's independence is not recognised by any country outside of Russia. Don't expect the Falklands will be recognised by many.
It would also piss off 99% of the British population who have paid in Gold and Blood to keep the islands free. If the Falklands wanted further support they would be unlikely to get it after opting for what would be unrecognised independence.
The Falklands need Britain and Britain needs the Falklands, like it or not that is the reality. It's time to work with it.
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