Friday, January 18th 2013 - 14:29 UTC

Falklands does not discard a referendum on ‘full independence in the future’

If at the coming referendum, the Falkland Islands wish to remain a UK Overseas Territory, retaining the current status and preserving the right to self-determination, which would allow the Falkland Islands to review its status at any time, “this could include full independence in the future”, points out the booklet “On the future of the Falkland Islands”.

The Falklands’ flag and coat of arms

The monument to the 1914 Battle of the Falklands

The explicative booklet released on Friday by the Falkland Islands elected government in support of the confirmation of the date and question of the coming referendum, explains to voters the current political situations in the Falklands and Argentina, the reason for calling the referendum and what Yes or No means for the future.

Follows the text of the booklet:

On the 10th and 11th March 2013, there will be a referendum on the political future of the Falkland Islands. This booklet explains the referendum, and what your vote would mean.

What is a referendum?

A referendum is a general vote by the electorate on a single political question. This particular referendum is a consultative referendum and is being held to seek your opinion on the political status of the Falkland Islands.

Why are we having this referendum?

The United Kingdom has sovereignty of the Falkland Islands. Argentina meanwhile claims that the Islands are theirs, and have requested that the UK Government enter into negotiations over this sovereignty. The UK Government support the Falkland Islanders’ right of self-determination, allowing the people of the Falkland Islands to decide their future. The Argentine Government states that it does not believe that the Islanders have this right and, as evidenced in their Constitution, claim full sovereignty of the Islands.
The purpose of this referendum is to give Falkland Islanders the opportunity to clearly state, through an open and observed democratic process, what they wish the political status of the Falkland Islands to be.

What is the question?

 A referendum asks you to vote yes or no to a proposal. For this referendum, you will receive a ballot paper with this question:
The current political status of the Falkland Islands is that they are an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom. The Islands are internally self-governing, with the United Kingdom being responsible for matters including defence and foreign affairs. Under the Falkland Islands Constitution the people of the Falkland Islands have the right to self-determination, which they can exercise at any
time. Given that Argentina is calling for negotiations over the sovereignty of the Falkland Islands, this referendum is being undertaken to consult the people regarding their views on the political status of the Falkland Islands. Should the majority of votes cast be against the current status, the Falkland Islands Government will undertake necessary consultation and preparatory work in order to conduct a further referendum on alternative options.

Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current politicalstatus as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?

YES or NO

What is the current political status of the Falkland Islands?
 

The Falkland Islands are one of 14 Overseas Territories (OTs) of the UK. Each of these OTs has its own constitution, its own government and its own local laws. They are therefore all different and there is no blueprint for the administration of the OTs. But there are some common themes, which of course apply to the Falkland Islands. These themes are described in detail in the June 2012 White Paper [The Overseas Territories: Security Success and Sustainability] (http://bit.ly/LiPmM9).
In short, the relationship between the UK and its OTs is based on the principles of selfdetermination and autonomy, whilst recognising mutual responsibility and a pledge of UK support when needed. The relationship between the Falkland Islands and the UK is essentially described in the Falkland Islands Constitution Order 2008
(http://bit.ly/V5LqDt). This spells out the degree of autonomy of the Falkland Islands Government whilst also describing the responsibilities of the UK towards the Islands.
The UK Government maintains a long-standing position on independence for the OTs, recognising that any decision to sever the constitutional link between the UK and an OT should be on the basis of the wishes of the people of the OT. Where independence is an option and it is the clear and constitutionally expressed wish of the people to pursue independence, the UK Government will meet its obligation to help the OT achieve this aim.

What is the Argentine position on the Falkland Islands?

The Argentine Constitution (http://bit.ly/zvdOvm), as amended in 1994, is clear that the Argentine Government claims full sovereignty over the Falkland Islands:

“The Argentine Nation ratifies its legitimate and non-prescribing sovereignty over the Malvinas, Georgias del Sur and Sandwich del Sur Islands and over the corresponding maritime and insular zones, as they are an integral part of the National territory. The recovery of said territories and the full exercise of sovereignty, respectful of the way of life of their inhabitants and according to the principles of international law, are a permanent and unrelinquished goal of the Argentine people.”

What does a YES vote mean?

If more people vote ‘yes’ than ‘no’ then the Falkland Islands Government will confirm to the UK government that the Falkland Islands wish to remain a UK Overseas Territory, retaining the current status and preserving the right to self-determination, which would allow the Falkland Islands to review its status at any time. This could include full independence in the future.

What does a NO vote mean?

 If more people vote ‘no’ than ‘yes’ then Falkland Islands Government will undertake further consultation and preparatory work leading to a further referendum on alternative options. These alternatives would be representative of public opinion, as identified through open and free consultation.

 

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1 Escoses Doido (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 04:06 pm Report abuse
Viva Falkland Islands!
2 XAVIERV (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 04:07 pm Report abuse
Jajajajaja!!!!! Tell me another joke!
3 Shed-time (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 04:42 pm Report abuse
@2 Argentina!
4 Steve-33-uk (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 04:44 pm Report abuse
Full independence is the solution to end all sovereignty debates.
This is what I keep trying to tell our RG posters, its not a question of if its a question of when.

Nothing much would change in the FI, strong links would still be maintained with the UK and commonwealth and the UK would maintain a military base.
5 ChrisR (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 04:46 pm Report abuse
2 XAVIERV

“Jajajajaja!!!!! Tell me another joke!”

What about TMBOA sinking you economy?
Making AG the laughing stock of the World?
Confirming to all the foreign investors that they will lose their money faster than TMBOA can re-plasticise her hideous face?
Thieving money from every argie?
Travelling the World in a British luxury jet because AG cannot risk Tango 01 being confiscated to pay your creditors?
Confiscating the shareholders assets in YPF with no compensation then YPF going into a tailspin on lack of oil and gas production levels?

There are SIX real laugh a minute jokes for the rest of the World to enjoy!

Not too funny when you live in the shithole you call Argentina though, is it?
6 andy65 (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 04:47 pm Report abuse
2 XAVIERV The two biggest jokes are

SS Hitler Cristina Kirchner (love that Spanish name) for being such a prick and the love of botox is shameful

Argentina for electing such a prick as there leader

The jokes go on but I will be kind on this occasion.
7 XAVIERV (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 04:51 pm Report abuse
Independence means having your own army and not hide under the skirt of Queen ..
8 Be serious (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 04:53 pm Report abuse
2
OK
Argentina honours its debts and is the land of the brave.

I see that Union Jack is still flying proudly over the Falkland Islands and the UK's other extensive South Atlantic territories and maritime space.

Can't see that changing anytime soon.
9 MrFlagpole (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 04:54 pm Report abuse
If they want independence then it is theirs to have. UK will offer them any help they need and wish them good luck.

what do we imagine argentina might do in the same situation?
10 redpoll (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 04:55 pm Report abuse
UN C24 committee. Just what is the purpose of this farcical assembly? They blether and blether but do they have any practical solutions as to how decolonization should be carried out? Lets look at five cases. I wont go into the Falklands case as it has been discussed ad infinitum on these threads
Pitcairn Island (pop 49) No original inhabitants and settled by the Bounty mutineers. What does the C24 suggest? Independence? They would be hard pushed to form a football team, much less a fully fledged independent govt. So C24 what are your ideas?
Tristan da Cunha (pop 269) Again no aborigine population. In 1961 the entire popaltion was evacuated to UK following a volcanic eruption. They were very unhappy in UK and voted to return to thier island home and to hell with the volcano
Ascension Island (pop 873), most of whom are transient. A barren rock in mid Atlantic which subsists because of Wideawake airfield
St Helena (pop 6,600) A BOT with an elected parliamentary assembly which has delegated certain matters to the Uk govt but which can declare thier independence should they so wish
The Falklands No aboriginal inhabitants and a duly elected parliament to manage thier own affairs. Need I go on?
As for the uninhabited islands such as South Georgia (btw Marcos slipped up there didnt you? Its called something else in Spanish) Argentina has as much claim to it as the Mexicans do to the French Clipperton Island
So can anyone tell me what is the C24 practical solution to the decolonization of these so called colonies?
11 XAVIERV (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 04:58 pm Report abuse
I opponent, nor will I ever vote to Peronism, you can say what you want about cristina, may we express our opinion the same. The problem is not her, but all Argentines! Three cucumbers I care what the world opine. The point is that we want it or not its only neighbors and so we will be for the next 50 million years! As provided in the tectonic plates! So they have no choice to bear with us!
12 redpoll (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 05:16 pm Report abuse
Javi! Control yourself! Was that jajaja a hollow laugh or an unwanted emission from your backend?
13 Steve-33-uk (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 05:23 pm Report abuse
@10 redpoll

The UN C24 is corrupt and has been infiltrated by Argentina, bringing their friends in as members. But hopefully the BOT's will be boycotting this circus from now on.

@11 XAVIERV
I do not understand what you are trying to say?
14 redpoll (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 05:41 pm Report abuse
@13 Steve I was just trying to show how ridiculous this committee is. Both of us pay taxes through our govts contributions to the UN to support these cushy and useless “diplomats”
Im not surprised that Indonesia pays lip service to Argentinas claims. They have had a few expansionist imperial problems of thier own. The covert invasion of Borneo, the independence movement in West Irian and not least East Timor, recently independent and decolonised
15 Conqueror (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 05:46 pm Report abuse
Death to latinos!
16 andy65 (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 05:48 pm Report abuse
@XAVIERV OK tell us all the meaning of SELF DETERMINATION do you understand what it means?? we do understand that you might find it difficult growing up in a country that teaches young children from a very early age lies and propoganda.
17 Britninja (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 05:53 pm Report abuse
@11 Three cucumbers? What you do in your private life is your business.
18 XAVIERV (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 06:02 pm Report abuse
Noting better shield, bearing the flag I see Argentina implicitly .. Well, it's a matter of time just .. je
19 Gustbury (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 06:06 pm Report abuse
Fantastic, on my block We are also thinking become independent too!!We are more or less 200 residents!!! HAHAHAH LOL
20 redpoll (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 06:09 pm Report abuse
Wow Javi Didnt know they were making your flags out of kevlar as shield. Do they stop bullets too?
21 Richfe (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 06:09 pm Report abuse
Oh dear...Conq is having a turn again. Conq: please try and stop threatening to kill people. It just makes us all imagine you're foaming at the mouth with the nurses coming for you...and we'd rather reserve that image for pirate hunter...
22 Gustbury (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 06:23 pm Report abuse
15@muppett!
23 andy65 (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 06:29 pm Report abuse
@Gustbury Argentines have to live with what they voted a jumped up chemically henanced corupt Biotch, the rest of us from the outside looking in can just carry on taking the piss at a desperate middle aged menapausle twat desperately trying to live her dead husbands NAZI NESTORS dream.
She would do better thinking about the 25% of her people that live on $7 per day
24 slattzzz (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 07:15 pm Report abuse
wheres our canadian methadone high rent boy from Canada PH, might be that high he can't type, or perhaps working on his nuclear defence 100% rgenweenian, anyway if in the future the people of the Falkland Islands (there are no Malvinas) want independance from Great Britain then so be it, that's called SELF DETERMINATION, if they go for independance and ask us to continue to defend them then I'm 100% sure that we will
A. Because we can and
B. Because it will wind up the Rg's
25 briton (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 07:30 pm Report abuse
no reply
very silly move,
look who is living next door,
very silly move,
move on please.
26 ElaineB (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 07:56 pm Report abuse
@23 Hey, steady on, she is way past menopause.
27 reality check (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 08:22 pm Report abuse
Wonder if her ORT clashes with the Botox treatments.
28 Anglotino (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 08:28 pm Report abuse
Running out the door to work. Anyone got a quick link to this document so I can read it?
29 Brit Bob (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 08:46 pm Report abuse
It is really sad that so many Argentinians have allowed themselves to become duped by propaganda and lies that have been spread by successive Argentine governments on the subject of the Falklands. The Falkland Islands ARE NOT Argentinian. Argentina DOES NOT HAVE A VALID CLAIM. The Falkland Islanders DO HAVE THE RIGHT to self determination. Get over it.
30 GFace (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 08:53 pm Report abuse
@10, the problem with C24 is that their list has stabilized towards those territories that want the status quo at present. They cannot be practically “integrated” into their sponsor state, are not yet ready to go independent and/or have inhabitants who are rabidly opposed to be forcibly colonized or annexed by an immediate neighbor who sees the inhabitant as enemies to be oppressed and ethnically cleansed and would impose an unwelcome authoritarian colonizing overlord (i.e, Argentina) and handing them over would like giving the Czechoslovakia to the Nazis.

Of course for C24, it's not a problem, it's a feature. With the mutually agreeable equilibrium between the territories and their sponsor state, they can continue to claim a purpose, reject the local's right to self-determination, and even self-represetnation in the C24 and continue the arrogant role as Big Blue Father.
31 redpoll (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 09:28 pm Report abuse
@30 Gface
The whole criteria is up the pole. The Dutch terretories in the Carribean for instance. For instance some of them voted to become autonomous UNDER THE DUTCH CROWN, while others elected to become municipalities of mainland Holland. Then there is French Guiana an overseas department of mainland France. They were given the oppotunity to vote on their future staus but elected to stay as they were
Bit like the FI situation really So why arent there terretories on the C24 hitlist? Beats me. Anybody care to explain?
32 GFace (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 10:04 pm Report abuse
@31, one answer that should be obvious is that, ironically, Argentina's open ambitions to colonize and oppress the islanders give C24 some publicity, especially as they can define the conflict as white people against. well.. white people. Yes, that makes sense.
33 Morse (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 10:15 pm Report abuse
@7 XAVIERV

“Independence means having your own army and not hide under the skirt of Queen ..”

Iceland , a small sovreign nation and NATO member, does not maintain significant armed forces - so why should the Falkland Isles, should they choose full independence.

However, as Iceland - should they become a NATO member, they will be afforded protection.
34 briton (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 10:29 pm Report abuse
For a country that supposes to condemn imperialist , empires and colonies,

Why are they breaking all the rules of democracy to build their very own imperialist empire with argentine colonies?

hypercrit to the last..
35 slattzzz (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 10:44 pm Report abuse
@7 Kevlavic was the biggest US air base in Northern Europe until ten years ago, Iceland has the full protection of Europe and the US
36 José Malvinero (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 11:47 pm Report abuse
These Englishmen with their old imperialist mentality, they think they can go around the world occupying islands here and there with British occupy and then vote to make this small group of Britons if they want to remain British.
But it's easy, I propose now claim for Argentina the present territory of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and also carry out the amendment of the Constitution Argentina in this regard. So “respectful” and “democratic”, as the “British”, would call the 60 million Britons a referendum given to Argentina's claim to decide whether to continue with its current political situation YES or NO and if NO what other alternatives would like.
Again, what twisted mentality with these pirates.
They say to give the appearance of legitimacy, will present the results to the United Nations, but one wonders with what face? I suppose that the presentation would go to file Malvinas / Falklands along with more than 40 resolutions calling itself the negotiations, as further evidence of unresolved conflict of sovereignty between Britain and the Republic Argentina.

15 Conqueror

Quiet!, You were born in the Malvinas Islands? Yes? Then you are ARGENTINE! Ja, ja, ja!
37 GFace (#) Jan 18th, 2013 - 11:54 pm Report abuse
@36, Yes yes, and if you were born in Czechoslovakia or western Poland, you are German. ja ja ja ja. Whatever. Made plenty of the same sense back then, too. Of course the Germans know better in 2013. Argentina, not so much. You want to play these games? Well, that's where they originate. And that's where they end.
38 Malvinero1 (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 01:46 am Report abuse
Falklands does not discard a referendum on ‘full independence in the future’
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHWHo cares..
MALVINAS ARGENTINAS..
uk is FINISHED!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbLfje8_jgI
39 Shed-time (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 08:57 am Report abuse
@30 Can you attribute your comments by providing a list of the 40 UN GA resolutions that 'call upon' the UK to negotiate sovereignty with Argentina, taking into account that any resolutions before the War of Aggression (1982), are null and void.

Many thanks and can you do it quickly rather than ignoring it.
40 Boovis (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 09:40 am Report abuse
@39: You should say “binding resolutions” and then also perhaps we can list the actually binding ones that Argentina has ignored...
41 HansNiesund (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 09:49 am Report abuse
@30

In fact to save time, you could just provide a copy of any resolution that says Britain is supposed to negotiate the transfer of sovereignity over the Falklands to Argentina.

If you can't manage that, you could try a copy of any resolution that says there have to be negotiations specifically on sovereignity, that the islanders are to be excluded from any such negotiations, and that the principle of sovereignity doesn't apply.

And failing that, try a copy of any UN resolution that states Britain is in breach of any UN resolution.

If you get stuck in your reading, try asking Ban-ki Moon, I'm sure he'll set you straight.
42 lsolde (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 09:49 am Report abuse
@38 Malvinero1,
Hello Malvi, who are you today?
Taking your medication, are you?
So pleased to see you happy & gay(old meaning!).
We know that Argentina is finished, so solly,so solly.
You both have my sympathy.
43 HansNiesund (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 09:51 am Report abuse
@41

“and that the principle of sovereignity doesn't apply.”

I meant, of course, “and that the principle of self-determination doesn't apply”.
44 Orbit (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 10:59 am Report abuse
“The recovery of said territories and the full exercise of sovereignty, respectful of the way of life of their inhabitants”.

This will be 'respect' counter model style, similar to the way Warsaw and polish culture was treated circa 1944. Particularly if fat max is put in charge.

We only have to look at the c24 meet for evidence; CFK and timerman treated the falkland island delegation with utter contempt. They had the opportunity to show grace and statesmanship, which might even have helped their case, but they aren't capable of that. So reverted to arrogant ignorance, which they excel at.
45 Room101 (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 11:28 am Report abuse
It should give no one any satistfaction that Argentina is in Deep Manure; the future must envisage a cooperative one with an entirely different government.
Look at the map.It is a matter of geography as well as soveriegnty...Falkands myst have self-determination, and Argentina as well as South America must change or remain 19/20th Century thinkers in a very rapidly changing climatic ,as well as political world. Its a practical Proposition, not one for silly schoolchildren vindictiveness or illiterate comment from badly educated people(those that rise to this...well, if the cap fits, wear it.,
46 slattzzz (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 03:10 pm Report abuse
@45 well thanks for that, but it does give me satisfaction to see rgenweener in deep manure, why? because they keep on trying to make peoples lives misery, whilst they should be sorting thier own shit out, once old turkey neck has gone and a sensible goverment is in force that ceases all the rhetoric and crap then I might change my opinion until then fraid not.
Plus they tried to sink my arse 30 years ago, so fook em
47 Shed-time (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 04:01 pm Report abuse
@30 GFace, we're all still waiting for your responses and the list of resolutions detailling what was requested in @39, @40, @41.

When do you think you'll be giving us a response?
48 GFace (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 04:37 pm Report abuse
@47, Uh Shed..

The UK is in violation of NO UN resolutions, BKM said so explicitly and you don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that it is AR that is in breach of the only resolution that matters and their actions in 82 nullified any prior non-binindgs and indeed any vestige of a moral claim on the FI by AR (just as DEU has no moral or any other claim on East Prussia). And I don't understand what what you would assume that I think otherwise. The only reason I'd like to see “direct talks” would be to see AR be told directly across a table by the FIG (not a London rep from the UK) to take their colonial aspirations and shove it and since AR won't even acknowledge them. Sadly, I will be eternally frustrated in that respect, because the look on the AR delegation faces when the UK transferred the floor to the FIG would be comedy gold.

Any cursory review of my comments would make my stance on that clear, I'd think.
49 Conqueror (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 04:39 pm Report abuse
@2 Once upon a time there were some Spanish people who got in a boat and sailed for thousands of miles. When they got to wherever they murdered all the local people and decided to stay. Now they want to do it again. One of their complaints about the people who live where they want to go is that they are an “implanted population”. They deny being an “implanted population” themselves. There you go. Not one joke, but two!
@7 No. “Independence is a condition of a nation, country, or state in which its residents and population, or some portion thereof, exercise self-government, and usually sovereignty, over the territory.” Andorra, Costa Rica, Grenada, Kiribati, Liechstenstein, Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Nauru, Palau, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Samoa, Solomon Islands, Tuvalu and Vatican City are all independent. None have an army!
@18 Stop using Google translate. It's making you look more stupid than you are naturally.
@19 Go ahead. No concern of ours. But bear in mind that you have to have an army. Javi says so!
@21 Please try using the mind that you don't have.
@22 Prick!
@30 Are you sure? I thought they were just there for the extra foreign holidays at someone else's expense.
@36 Remember the Picton, Lennox and Nueva islands. Three other islands that arsieland tried to steal. Remember all the “incidents”, the arbitration decision that arsieland rejected, the direct negotiations, the attempt to occupy the islands, the papal mediation, the Falklands War? And the result? The islands belong to Chile. I don't know of anybody born in “Malvinas Islands”. They are a fantasy, a myth. But I AM British. Figure it out.
@38 Keyboard stuck again? A common problem with a NEW solution. Place it in the middle of the road. Go back for it next week.
@45 Why? What's wrong with arsieland imploding? There was a time when Buenos Aires thought it could be a country all by itself. Let's replace arsieland with 23 smaller countries?
50 Shed-time (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 05:06 pm Report abuse
@48 Sorry about the confusion. I was aiming both comments at @36 (José Malvinero) and not actually at yourself.

I just got horribly confused, my apologies.
51 Steveu (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 05:33 pm Report abuse
@50 when are Mercopress going to allow editing of comments by their authors - as offered by the Daily Torygraph

It would save a lot of misunderstandings. I have seen several of these in the past. If they changed the policy of not being able to post if you have the last comment, that would be a start as you could at least put out an amendment.

Hopefully the moderator(s) will see this comment and take this on board.
52 Pirat-Hunter (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 05:48 pm Report abuse
We Argentine support a nuclear defence program 100% made in Argentina to end the illegal occupation of Islands Malvinas Argentina by vritish illegal aliens. Go home or be prepared to meet Saddam hussain, all terrorist occupying other nations must be executed as it was done in Algeria a few days ago and should be done in every nation where the vritish exist. Well done Algeria execute all the thieves of natural resources in Algeria. Wake up Argentina or we will end up like Palestine illegally occupied by vritish Jews. Long live CFK and death to the thieves in Malvinas Argentina.
axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_64333.shtml
www.fihplc.com/index.php?section=0
abcnews.go.com/Blotter/algeria-terrorists-trade-us-hostages-blind-sheikh/story?id=18247667
53 slattzzz (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 06:14 pm Report abuse
@52 i hate to say this my little Rg friend sponging off Canada but saddam hussian is DEAD, now back to your drugs there's a good rent boy
54 redpoll (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 07:43 pm Report abuse
@51 CouDlnt agree more . We all make typos. MODERATOR PLEASE NOTE
55 briton (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 07:54 pm Report abuse
36 José Malvinero
1, prove it
2, prove it
3 prove it
All the rest = prove it,
You cant, just like your leader you just talk,
And for the thousands watching this blog,
They laugh at you indocronoughts,
And just like pirate hunter
You talk , brag , and garble,
Yet prove nothing,
The Falklands are British, full stop.
.
56 Troy Tempest (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 08:28 pm Report abuse
@52 ALEX VARGAS - RACIST

“ Wake up Argentina or we will end up like Palestine illegally occupied by vritish Jews. Long live CFK and death to the thieves in Malvinas Argentina.”

ALEX - you are clearly showing that you are a RACIST again, and ANTI-SEMITIC, as well.

Do you READ AND UNDERSTAND history and world events?

Are you referring to the PALESTINIAN EXODUS?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus

The Palestinians were only angry at the British because they withdrew after losing many British lives to Israeli terrorist attacks. The British were in fact, trying to protect the Palestinians from Israeli incursions into the Arab section of Palestine, as partitioned by the UN.
The UN, the same body that CFK demands hand over The Falklands to Argentina.

history.state.gov/milestones/1945-1952/ArabIsraeliWar

Now, you would have the British miltary withdraw from The Falklands, a forced exodus of the current inhabitants, a self-governing culture and people who have lived there for nearly 200 years and going back many generations, to make room for 'settlers' who have no legal claim to the territory??

Is that the example you wanted to make?

You are a racist puppet of the CFK foreign aggressors.
57 slattzzz (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 08:55 pm Report abuse
wait for it 100% nuclear defence for rgenweener made in rgenweener and free ky jelly for rent boys.......what an idiot
58 Shed-time (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 09:21 pm Report abuse
I ask thee, when is any single argentine commenter ever going to add citations to back up their comments?

I looked on the La Campora website recently and there facing me was an interview with that Argentine legal academic who used to comment on here before he got sick of basically being wrong all the time. I remember lurking back then and seeing that even he didn't seem to attribute his comments to any kind of academic paper.

Do these folks not understand!?!
59 toooldtodieyoung (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 09:22 pm Report abuse
52 Pirat-Hunter

“all terrorist occupying other nations must be executed”

And the land that Argentina “Forcibly stripped” from it's neighbours? Are you, Argentine Terrorists, going to burn in hell too?
60 Shed-time (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 09:31 pm Report abuse
@59 I'm pretty sure that the UN and this latest South Atlantic Treaty Organisation treaty categorically state that genocide is bad. I'm pretty sure that the Argentines like to ignore treaties that they sign.

Aren't La Campora, Quebracho, Vatayon militante and 'The Condors' all state sponsored terrorists? Their job is to terrorise people, and they're paid for by the state.

Because they terrorise British people, you could even class them as state-sponsored international terrorists. Guantanamo awaits their leaders (eh, Maximo).
61 reality check (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 09:42 pm Report abuse
I confidently predict that in 2182 La guerre Las Malvinas, will have in their history books, morphed into a glorious Argentinian victory and the 2nd of April, will be a national holiday. The only problem they wil have, is explaining why the Islands are still a BOTD or an independent country with close links to the UK.
62 Shed-time (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 09:47 pm Report abuse
@61 I'm pretty sure by that time Argentians will have evolved back into stone-age man and the falkland islanders will have become a metropolis protected by laser cannons.
63 lsolde (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 09:55 pm Report abuse
@61 reality check,
Hopefully by then, Argentina will have broken up into about 6 or 7 different manageable countries & perhaps Sta Cruz & Chubut are Falkland lsland Overseas Territories.
Boy are they going to take some re-educating!
64 GFace (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 10:10 pm Report abuse
@50. No prob!
65 toooldtodieyoung (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 10:34 pm Report abuse
60 Shed-time

mmmmmm, I wonder.... Re-invent the present, ignore the past, ignore the truth.... Yep that is pretty much SOP isn't it?

Because “La Campora, Quebracho, Vatayon militante and 'The Condors' all state sponsored terrorists” does that now mean that they are part of the axis of evil???
66 slattzzz (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 10:45 pm Report abuse
@61 the glorious Falkland Islands army will have invaded and taken rgenweener by then, they will all speak English and drive on the left
67 you are not first (#) Jan 20th, 2013 - 01:56 am Report abuse
Sure they will be free. Free of PBI because they will have to pay every single vacation of the spoil brats from the Royal family. Just like any Brit.
The best deal in 2013 : BUY A BRIT FOR HIS REAL VALUE BASED IN WHAT HE REALLY OWNS( DO NOT INCLUDE YOUR QUEEN'S DOGS) AND SELL IT FOR THE SIZE OF HIS EGO. It is the only thing he has big that is way he has NUCLEAR WEAPONS.( Sigmund Froyd, last essay about the English man)
68 Rob the argentine (#) Jan 20th, 2013 - 04:36 am Report abuse
#67, your last sentence was an old joke about argentines. And Falkland will be free the day islanders wish to be free. That is well known as “self-determination”.
69 José Malvinero (#) Jan 20th, 2013 - 04:54 am Report abuse
49

“I am British” says this disturbed and pretend to be judge and jury in the territorial dispute the fool ...
Regarding the Picton, Lenox and New, What!!!!!???????????
70 Rob the argentine (#) Jan 20th, 2013 - 05:05 am Report abuse
#69, maybe you pretend to ignore or to change the real history. Those were islands we (Argentina) tried to take from Chile. They went to ICJ and Argentina lost the lawsuit. Remember now?
71 Troy Tempest (#) Jan 20th, 2013 - 06:28 am Report abuse
@70Rob

”#69, JoséMal, maybe you pretend to ignore or to change the real history. Those were islands we (Argentina) tried to take from Chile. They went to ICJ and Argentina lost the lawsuit. Remember now?”

Good one, Rob !!
Thanks for that.
72 toooldtodieyoung (#) Jan 20th, 2013 - 11:37 am Report abuse
67 you are not first

The Actual joke goes ( and present company accepted, Respect, Rob the argentine ):- How do you make a quick profit? Buy an Argentine for what he is worth and sell him for what he thinks he is worth.

As for your other comment about Sigmund “Freud” I am pretty sure that he didn't mention Nuclear weapons in any of his papers or essays. If you have the proof that he did then please share it with the rest of us on the forum.

You know, you could do a lot worse than listen to what Rob the argentine is saying. He is making sense and you would do well to read and understand what he is saying... Now, hush.... the adults are talking.
73 José Malvinero (#) Jan 20th, 2013 - 03:14 pm Report abuse
70 Rob the argentine
Ha ha I will not agree, silly, if I am Argentine, but I repeat:
“Regarding the Picton, Lenox and New, What!!!???????????”
74 briton (#) Jan 20th, 2013 - 07:43 pm Report abuse
ICJ==ICJ==ICJ==

go go go .
75 BritishguyfromLondon (#) Jan 21st, 2013 - 04:22 pm Report abuse
The Falklanders have the world at their feet. They have a growing economy, a precious natural resource, lots of space in which to expand their population, an astonishingly low crime rate and boundless possibilities. They have the right to become independent at any time. Their only real problem is some annoying country named Argentina with a corrupt government, failing economy and ragged military who want to establish a dictatorship on the islands. I really wish that Kirchner would leave the Falklanders alone so they can push on and become a fully fledged new nation.
76 Anti-Fascist (#) Jan 22nd, 2013 - 02:41 pm Report abuse
Unrealistic Steve, full independence would NOT be recognised by most countries in the world. Most countries in the world being members of the Group of 77 and similar third would despots who hate Britain and sympathise with Argentine. Most people in Latin America believe the Falklands are the Malvinas and are populated by Latin American's like themselves who speak Spanish and are held against their will in a colonial throw back, while Latin American governments are locked into supporting Argentina's claims to the Falklands.

Just as Ossetia's independence is not recognised by any country outside of Russia. Don't expect the Falklands will be recognised by many.

It would also piss off 99% of the British population who have paid in Gold and Blood to keep the islands free. If the Falklands wanted further support they would be unlikely to get it after opting for what would be unrecognised independence.

The Falklands need Britain and Britain needs the Falklands, like it or not that is the reality. It's time to work with it.

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