Saturday, January 19th 2013 - 03:00 UTC

Argentine car washers blame poor weather forecasting for bad business

A summer brawl has surfaced in Buenos Aires between the car washers’ industry and the Argentine Meteorological service that are blamed for their poor forecasts which scares customers from the outlets.

Automatic or manual, ‘pls don’t scare the clients’

But 2012 has been the rainiest year since 1900 says the Met office

The dispute came to light when the Argentine Chamber of Automatic and Manual Automobile Washing, Calama, criticized the weather forecasters in an open letter addressed to one of Buenos Aires newspapers.

However the Argentine National Meteorological Service tried to downplay the controversy. The director of the service Hector Ciappesoni in statements to another daily said that the mistakes are “even” both when announcing rainfall and when anticipating good weather.

“In any case the owners of the car washing stations must understand that 2012 was the fourth rainiest year since 1900”, indicated Ciappesoni.
In the letter the chamber complains that the “reiterated errors” of the Met Service which forecast rain, storms and hail which then do not occur only help “to scare clients” from our washing stations.

“What the news airs is considered almost a ‘holy statement’ and sometimes there are whole programs dedicated to climate change and the weather, and whenever they forecast rain, it’s a ‘dry’ day for us”, complained Calama.

“They (news programs) even forecast with absolute certainty at what time it is going to rain and for how long, and repeat and repeat”, complained Atilio Krenn, president of the car washing industry.

Ironically from the other side of the River Plate, in Montevideo, there are also serious complaints about weather forecasts and the government’s handling of extreme situations with strong storms of wind and twisters.

However in Uruguay the word is “you can’t trust the local met office, better check what is happening in Buenos Aires, they are usually more on target”.


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1 Shed-time (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 08:53 am Report abuse
So, the Argentines suggest what? Get the uneducated La Campora folks to force the meteorologists to say every day is a sunny day just so they get more business? Next thing, they'll be getting La Campora to fly their planes.

.... oh, wait.
2 Joe Bloggs (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 09:30 am Report abuse
Always someone else's fault now even the weather forecasters are to blame. Maybe the UK could send the one of their top weathermen. Say, Michael Fish?

One would imagine that, if it's starting to get a little tougher to make ends meet, paying someone to wash your car might be an early casualty a cost-cutting exercise. However if the car wash unions really think the forecasts are to blame they could always canvass to have INDEC take over the role. That way they could be sure that the number of forecast rainy days would be cut by at least two thirds.

BTW, Argentina can have Michael Fish. I met him in the Falklands once and he is a right dick.
3 Raven (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 10:53 am Report abuse
Agreed Joe.

Luxuries are always first to be hit when times are hard.

I wonder, is the Argentine met office really that bad?

I have to laugh at the idea of a Car Wash Union. I mean, seriously?!
4 Joe Bloggs (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 11:19 am Report abuse
3 Raven

I wouldn't be surprised if the car wash union's membership list has got a lot in common with the membership lists of the paid thug organisations that CFK bankrolls. Or should I say is struggling to afford to bankroll. She's going to have a big problem with that as the money continues to dry up. Like owning a pack of hyenas. As long as you keep feeding them they'll spare you but you'd better get out of there fast if you run out of food.
5 ElaineB (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 12:34 pm Report abuse
Surely Argentines can do what everyone else does; look out of the window to see the weather.

I would say it is far more likely that people are cutting back on luxuries, as has been said.
6 ptolemy (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 12:51 pm Report abuse
Yes, I look out the window and check the weather satellite map myself.
7 Pirate Love (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 01:13 pm Report abuse
Take it to the U.N! if they havent already.
8 Usurping Pirate (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 01:13 pm Report abuse
Typical RG story . Everything is someone else's fault .
9 yankeeboy (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 01:18 pm Report abuse
I don't think Argentina has its own weather satellites. They probably just use forecasts from USA services like The Weather Channel, or Accuweather etc. and pass on the info.
If there were any good forecasters which is pretty big business here they've most likely are working outside of the country. I have a friend who does weather forecasting/modelling for a commodities broker and makes a fortune!
10 Shed-time (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 02:36 pm Report abuse
This issue with the weathermen is not a national Argentine issue, it's clearly a global issue that needs to be discussed at the highest priority within the OAS, Mercosur and random asian states. A letter will be sent to Ban Ki Moon immediately, and has nothing to do with laziness and cr@p marketing.

Is the Argentine Car-washer's Union a euphemism for something else?
11 GFace (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 02:52 pm Report abuse
In fairness, Chambers of Commerces in the US have been infamous about harping on about missed rain/snow forecasts, and I s'spect it's true for every country. But the direct causation between a rainy forecast (when it's sunny right now) and people going to the store is dodgy (unless they have to drive for miles and miles to get to the store and people don't drive 50-100 mi to the carwash). Unless you literally live in the middle of nowhere, every shopper is a Household Weather Service of One and our model of choice is called a window. Plus everyone knows that the best way to make it rain is to wash your car so in this case, the charge is beyond frivolous.

But most importantly weather services and met offices exist to save lives and protect properties by promptly issuing watches and warnings. They are more interested in NOT missing severe storm and flooding events (ahem... such as those that have hit BA) rather than putting happy pictures of sunshine or whatever on their public forecast web pages so people who don't look out windows will go shopping. In such a formula, it's ok and forgeable to forecast sprinkles for what is really a perfect picnic day.
12 slattzzz (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 03:20 pm Report abuse
Probably the Falkland Islands fault those bad people keep changing the weather.

A car washers union WTF
13 ChrisR (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 04:19 pm Report abuse
I must admit I was fed up with the efforts of the UYU Met Office and have used the Norwegian website shown below for the last 18 / 20 months with much better accuracy.

You can specify your town or local area and there are local, moving weather maps over a two or three day period.

I also use the site to keep an eye on my extended families weather situation in the UK.
14 toooldtodieyoung (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 09:02 pm Report abuse
Even the BBC has become a bit hit and miss of late.

I say it's because Dan “The Man” Corbett doesn't do the weather anymore....

You ever see him? The man is a legend!!!
15 slattzzz (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 10:49 pm Report abuse
bbc scotland Judith Ralston she's hot, reminds me of a teacher come porn star
16 Raven (#) Jan 19th, 2013 - 11:25 pm Report abuse
@15 slattzzz

Playing the 'Best Weather presenter' then...

The Rules of Engagment.
No derogatory terms to be used. You just have to ''see'' your opponents offering, and raise him with the hand you play.


I'll see your Judith Ralston, and I'll play Keelie Donovan BBC Look North.

Any one in?
17 Shed-time (#) Jan 20th, 2013 - 12:25 am Report abuse
@16 Fred Talbot?
18 Troy Tempest (#) Jan 20th, 2013 - 06:22 am Report abuse
Car Wash Foreman:
We have a problem with the new employee.

What's the matter? He did great in the interview, used lots of words even I never heard before!

Well, half the time he's next door at the Internet Café, and the other half he spends arguing with all the 'real' workers. And besides, he has no idea how to wash cars!

That's ok. He's my wife's nephew, he lives with his parents in a 'settlement' and we just pay him in Internet Minutes next door.
19 Joe Bloggs (#) Jan 20th, 2013 - 08:38 am Report abuse

For me it's Laura Tobin. As a lot of you most likely know, the same folk do the BFBS weather also so we're lucky enough to get a double serve.
20 toooldtodieyoung (#) Jan 20th, 2013 - 11:14 am Report abuse
16 Raven

Ok, on mature reflection, Keeley Donovan gets my vote.

Sorry guys, but there it is.... Laura tobin would be the runner up though.
21 stick up your junta (#) Jan 20th, 2013 - 11:30 am Report abuse
Any objection to “Spanish” speaking weather girls?
22 slattzzz (#) Jan 20th, 2013 - 12:29 pm Report abuse

Grrrrr sexy minx
23 Raven (#) Jan 20th, 2013 - 12:47 pm Report abuse
@16 Fred Talbot?!

@19 Mmmm yes, Laura Tobin.

@21 Awwww. Seriously now! :D
You should have put this instead.
Mayte Carranco Mexican weathergirl.

Keep the suggestions coming.

On a side note, if any of that lot were presenting the weather, would you REALLY know what the weather was without having to look outside? :D
24 ElaineB (#) Jan 20th, 2013 - 01:27 pm Report abuse
*rolls eyes* You guys. : )
25 ChrisR (#) Jan 20th, 2013 - 01:50 pm Report abuse
23 Raven
“Mayte Carranco Mexican weathergirl”

Very attractive young lady apart from she speaks as fast as an overclocked AMD A8.

This is good for a laugh: striptease Brazilian 'weather girl' and anchorman.
26 Shed-time (#) Jan 20th, 2013 - 03:05 pm Report abuse
Meanwhile in Taiwan....

WTF?!?! @ 0m12s
27 GFace (#) Jan 20th, 2013 - 03:36 pm Report abuse
I really need to find a piece of 80s footage that has a US weathercaster using a blue screen under a raincoat complete with newspaper in the pocket and having to reach inappropriately under the beltline to get down to Florida.

But for now, I must defer to someone who never wanted to do a weather forecast to begin with.

And then there is THIS
28 Raven (#) Jan 20th, 2013 - 04:12 pm Report abuse
Becky Mantin ITV.
29 Simon68 (#) Jan 21st, 2013 - 05:49 pm Report abuse
As a retired emergency services worker, I can tell you that the Servicio Meteorológico Nacional (National Weather Service) here in Argentina is excepcionally good at its job, they have given us spot forecasts for wild fires in the middle of nowhere which have been 99% correct over a 12 hour period. Anyone in the fire services will tell you that this is very good indeed!!!!!
30 andy65 (#) Jan 21st, 2013 - 08:46 pm Report abuse
Perhaps it's simply because

31 slattzzz (#) Jan 21st, 2013 - 10:02 pm Report abuse
why are weather girls always pregnant?

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