Tuesday, February 5th 2013 - 19:33 UTC

Timerman meets Falklands’ lawmaker but dismisses any form of dialogue

Argentine Foreign Minister Hector Timerman dismissed another attempt by Falkland Islands representatives to engage in dialogue and refused to accept a letter addressed to him and a newly published booklet on the Falklands History.

Jan Cheek and Dick Sawle interviewed by the BBC outside Westminster

According to a release from the Falklands’ elected government the incident took place on Monday at the end of a UK/Argentina All Party Parliamentary Group conference when Falklands’ Member of the Legislative Assembly Dick Sawle approached Mr. Timerman, introduced himself and offered a letter and a copy of the newly published booklet “Our Islands, Our History” which were refused by the Argentine official.

MLA Sawle and his peer MLA Jan Cheek travelled over the weekend to London in order to take part in any discussions about the Falkland Islands during Mr Timerman’s proposed meeting with the UK Foreign Secretary William Hague, which the Argentine top official finally declined.

The letter expressed MLA Sawle and Cheek’s disappointment not to be meeting with Mr Timerman, saying: “Your Government says that all it wishes to do is talk. Yet when the opportunity arises, you refuse.”

The letter, which is to be delivered to the Argentine Embassy in London also stated:

“There is no reason to be afraid of sitting down with Falkland Islanders. Previous Argentine Governments have done so. In the twenty-first century democracies like ours should be able to discuss our differences in a reasonable and constructive way. The Falkland Islands people have never sought conflict or confrontation with Argentina. On the contrary, we favour cooperation and peaceful co-existence. There are many important issues that we can both usefully address together.”

“Sadly this refusal comes as no surprise to the Falkland Islands Government, as this is not the first time our attempts at dialogue have been ignored. In June 2012, at the United Nations in New York, President Fernandez de Kirchner was offered a letter asking her to meet with Assembly Members to hear their views and to discuss matters of common interest.

Regrettably, she refused to accept it. The letter was subsequently delivered to the Argentine Government however the Falkland Islands Government has never received a response.

“Our desire for normal neighbourly relations is nothing new, but this most recent refusal of the Argentine Government to recognise our people or our rights once again demonstrates how one-sided this desire is.

Follows the full text of the letter to the Argentine Foreign Minister:

Dear Mr. Timerman,

The Hon Jan Cheek MLA and I are disappointed not to be meeting with you in London, as we had offered. Your Government says that all it wishes to do is to talk. Yet when the opportunity arises, you refuse.

There is no reason to be afraid of sitting down with Falkland Islanders. Previous Argentine Governments have done so. In the twenty-first century democracies like ours should be able to discuss our differences in a reasonable and constructive way. The Falkland Islands people have never sought conflict or confrontation with Argentina. On the contrary, we favour cooperation and peaceful co-existence. There are many important issues that we can both usefully address together.

Falkland Islanders can trace their heritage back through nine generations. Though we value our links to the United Kingdom, we are our own community, free to determine our political future.

We believe that the referendum next month will make it very clear that we do not wish to be ruled by Argentina. Please understand that no amount of harassment and intimidation by your Government against our Island community will change this fact. Indeed, the more you press us, the harder will be our resolve. It is not tenable for you to ignore us.

We know that Argentina has an uncompromising narrative on the history of our Islands. It is not a history that we recognise, or which we believe is substantiated by the archives of our respective governments. I am enclosing a new publication that our Government has just produced, explaining the history of the Falkland Islands from the people who call it their home. I hope you find time to read it; we are publishing a Spanish version in the next few weeks.

We ask you again to reconsider your refusal to speak with us. We remain happy to meet with you at your convenience.

Yours sincerely

The Hon Dick Sawle MLA

Minister Timerman is in London to make Argentina’s case on the Falklands/Malvinas dispute before the UK/Argentina parliamentary group and on Wednesday before 18 groups from the European Union who supports the resumption of dialogue between Argentina and the UK on the issue.

British Foreign Secretary William Hague has said that any meeting with Minister Timerman in which the Falklands issue is involved should include representatives from the Falklands. Mr. Timerman has repeatedly rejected point blank such a position.

“Mr Timerman's own plans in the UK are clearly focused on the Falkland Islands issue and since we remain concerned about the Argentine government's recent behavior towards the Falkland Islanders it is right and proper that their political representatives are involved in the part of the meeting that concerns them. We continue to make that clear to the Argentine government in diplomatic exchanges and the foreign secretary's offer of a meeting on these terms still stands”


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1 BenC30 (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 07:57 pm Report abuse
If Timerman has 'refused any form of dialogue' then the UN should do nothing but ignore Argentina. If they do not recognise the people of the Falkland Islands or their Government, then all talks MUST be scrapped immediately.

Timerman is doing this only for political and Argentine public attention.
2 LEPRecon (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 08:01 pm Report abuse
Once again Timmidman shows the world that Argentina DOESN'T want to talk at all.
3 Steve-33-uk (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 08:03 pm Report abuse
Please tell me someone filmed it?
I wana see it
4 toooldtodieyoung (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 08:04 pm Report abuse
“Your Government says that all it wishes to do is to talk. Yet when the opportunity arises, you refuse”.

Suck it up Laughing boy Timerman!!!! You are a fully fledged, 4 berth, sea-going kn*b!!

I would like to be the first to congratulate you, your trip to the UK has been a success. By the time you leave, the whole world will know without a question of doubt how your country tries to hold the Falkland Islanders under your boot.

Congratulations again for making a complete kn*b out of yourself. What little support you had for your lost cause has surely evaporated now you have shown yourself to an uneducated idiot.

Well done, well done I say!!! To man, the whole of Europe would now not p*ss you you if you were on fire, they can not wait for you to f**k off back to Argentina and crawl back up KFC's arseh*le where you belong

who do you think will shoot him dead first?? The SAS or MOSSAD?
5 Lou Spoo (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 08:07 pm Report abuse
LOL. The man's a fucking moron!

”Lord Davies, the turncoat Tory who served as a defence minister in the Brown government, asked if the Argentines might pursue their territorial claim in the international court at the Hague. Timerman replied that his government will not be doing so because the British government is not serious about entering arbitration. His evidence for this is that the British government rejected an arbitration appeal in 1884 (in fact, he meant 1888). This is not the strongest argument, particularly from someone who professed determination not to talk about the past“

”The word ‘irony’ could not contain the multitude of speciousness issuing from Senor Timerman’s mouth. He was, however, barely warmed up. Timerman began to speak at length about Britain’s colonial history and the need to move on. There was no mention of Argentina’s origins and the systematic eradication of its indigenous peoples (so clearly documented by Matthew Parris a few weeks ago). Timerman then drew comparison between the Falkland islanders and settlers in the West Bank by enlightening his audience of the British government’s hypocrisy of condemning Israeli settlements while continuing to support the islanders. ‘It does not make any sense,’ he said excitedly, echoing my very thoughts”

6 commonsparrow (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 08:09 pm Report abuse
Well, enough said, here it is, Argentina shows that it has very little interest in the PEOPLE of the Falklands. CFK is a MALVINISTA President, she has said this herself, and this is her goal. Nevermind that the supermarket shelves in her country will not stock fast enough, price controls do not reduce inflation, price controls will only cause shortages. But the Falklands issue is a smokescreen and the smokescreen will continue.
7 Monkeymagic (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 08:09 pm Report abuse
“We know that Argentina has an uncompromising narrative on the history of our Islands. It is not a history that we recognise, or which we believe is substantiated by the archives of our respective governments”.

Is he quoting “Think” LOL.....
8 briton (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 08:12 pm Report abuse
If he thinks Argentina will control the Falklands in a mere 20 years time, then why bother talking at all.

We can be rude or polite,
But the fact remains, that if they are not willing to fight for them,
Then they can whistle Dixie,

The islands will remain British until they decide otherwise,

Until then
They can threaten, abuse, intimidate, and cry, and sob, but to no avail.

Argentina has now become a joke state run by comedians and clowns,
And the free world is queuing up to see them.
9 reality check (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 08:18 pm Report abuse
Silly cow is using the same ploy as the junta, using the islands for distraction. I am beginning to think if they had had not emasculated their armed forces, because they could not trust them not to mount another coup. They may have resorted to armed aggression again.
10 briton (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 08:20 pm Report abuse
that nothing has been heared of CFK whilst all this is going on.
11 Conqueror (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 08:20 pm Report abuse
Typical argie discourtesy. “We only want to talk. And here is a list of our conditions and the required result.”

Give him a quick double slap round the chops and a boot up the arse to speed him on his way.

Also, inform him that he is no longer welcome in the UK.
12 CaptainSilver (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 08:21 pm Report abuse
In less than 20 years Argentina will be under UN control. It will be just like Cyprus or Korea. Once again Argentina is sinking:-

It is run by loonies.
It is financially out of control
Large swathes of the population are impoverished living on just a few $ a day
It is alienating country after country including its own colonial roots - Italy and Spain
It is making itself look stupid by perpetually spouting hyperbole
It is internally disunited with provinces about to disconnect from a lunatic government
It's richest citizens cannot afford to go abroad because their peso wealth is being fast eroded.
Ambitious people are leaving in droves
Foreign policy is highlighting the plight of the indiginous Indians
Murders and crime are escalating wildly
Corruption is rife
The armed forces are starved of equipment with low morale
The Mafia are growing in power and usurping the government
The government is meanwhile topping up their bank accounts in Leichtenstien ready to desert the sinking ship

It will self destruct and collapse into chaos within 5 years. After that UN forces from other SA nations will step in to restore order

The UN will have to intervene soon to prevent another tragedy
13 The Cestrian (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 08:22 pm
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14 briton (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 08:28 pm Report abuse
valentines day approaches,
will someone put him up against the wall, and do a doggy side swipe on him..
15 slattzzz (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 08:29 pm Report abuse
Fook em lets have a joint UK/US/SPAIN/CHILE and Brazil Naval exercise in the South Atlantic. Really though this man is a complete and utter buffoon and worse a complete and utter coward. Hope the Isrealies are paying attention to his comments ;)
16 briton (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 08:30 pm Report abuse
B A should make him walk back.
17 Artillero 601 (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 08:31 pm Report abuse
When The Going Gets Tough, The Tough Get Going !!! :-)
18 Furry-Fat-Feck (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 08:32 pm Report abuse
@13 The Cestrian (#)
Feb 05th, 2013 - 08:22 pm

Eloquent to the last. I commend you sir to the house.
19 Steve-33-uk (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 08:33 pm Report abuse
'“Argentina has more chances of having a flag on the moon in the Falklands” - A group of islanders, who defend the principle of “self-determination”, was crossing Timerman Chancellor, who is in London for the debate over the sovereignty of the islands'
20 The Cestrian (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 08:35 pm Report abuse
They should shoot the twat as he leaves Heathrow.
21 Artillero 601 (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 08:35 pm Report abuse

Do us the favor and give him political asylum !
22 briton (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 08:36 pm Report abuse
they humiliate themselves,
the brave 3,000 defending themselves again an agressive 40 million

and still the argies lose.
never learn do they. knumskulls.
23 sacharin (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 08:38 pm Report abuse
@12 captain silver aka Conqueror aka Captain Piss
24 briton (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 08:41 pm Report abuse
Im surprise he has not tried to join up with Assange
And do a double act .lol.
25 nigelpwsmith (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 08:41 pm Report abuse
Timerman is a fool and most Argentine people know this. He's even managed to upstage his own president & knowing how psychotic she can be, that's a very dangerous mistake to make.

Every time he opens his mouth to refuse talks, he makes the Falkland Islanders stronger.

Next time Argentina goes to the United Nations & claims that Britain is refusing talks, the Islanders & the foreign office can point out that Argentina was offered talks, but refused them.

Argentina is trying to have their cake and eat it.

How can Argentina get anywhere if they refuse to discuss anything with the Islanders?!

The simple truth is that Argentina knows that recognising the Islanders means recognising their rights. Which includes the right to Self Determination.

Ban Ki-moon is well aware that the Islanders must decide their own future. He and the other UN members will soon tire of Argentina's behaviour if they refuse to have discussions with the people who live on the Islands.

Lets face it, this behaviour will not change, because if it did, then CFK would lose face (it would melt!) and everyone outside Argentina would ask why they changed their position.

What will happen is that the oil & gas will start to be extracted, the Islanders will get increasingly rich. The Argentines will look on with envy and growing frustration, but be unable to do anything about it.

They might try to sell fishing licenses for the Falklands EEZ because they depleted their own fish stocks & the illegal boats will be arrested and confiscated.

I doubt that Argentina or Venezuela will try to site oil rigs in the Falklands EEZ though, because if they did, they could lose a very expensive exploration rig, which would only make the Falkland Islands capable of doing their own drilling.

Timerman will continue lying to the UN & claiming that Britain refuses to talk. Every word he utters turns people against Argentina. They will lose the diplomatic battle by acting like truculent children. They are fools.
26 Artillero 601 (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 08:46 pm Report abuse
@24 :-)
27 briton (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 08:46 pm Report abuse
who changed the picture.
tin man lol.
28 Artillero 601 (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 08:47 pm Report abuse
as long as you don't put the bitch, everything is fine ...
29 briton (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 08:48 pm Report abuse
CFK is very quiet.
30 Artillero 601 (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 08:49 pm Report abuse
let's keep it that way .... change is coming ! :-)
31 briton (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 08:54 pm Report abuse
lets hope its to get rid of them.
32 XAVIERV (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 08:54 pm Report abuse
Argentina only going to talk to the owner of the circus, with clowns not ..
33 briton (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 08:56 pm Report abuse
yes but its
CFK that OWNS the bloody circus lol.
34 Artillero 601 (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 08:57 pm Report abuse

the path is unsustainable ! People are tired already
35 Steve-33-uk (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 09:00 pm Report abuse
Next week Hector Timerman will present Argentina's claim at the UN for the moon, according to Timerman the history books as we know them are false propaganda written by imperialists. It was Argentina that landed on the moon first, with its astronauts being forcibly removed in 1969, Timerman is set to argue that the moon reflects onto Argentina's continental shelf thus forming an integral part of Argentina.
36 Anbar (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 09:01 pm Report abuse
“Argentina only has clowns from the circus to talk to others.”

Fixed that sentence for ya Xav :-)
37 briton (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 09:02 pm Report abuse

liars and more liars .
38 BritishLion (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 09:04 pm Report abuse
Poor old Tinman, left to make a complete twat of himself while CFK dreams up yet more distractions for her deluded population while she skims the last of the nations fat off to her private vault in Switzerland. In twenty years time Argentina will still be recovering from civil war, CFK will be in excile while Tinman will have been shot dead by his own bodyguards. So says the oracle, the same one that told him what to say in London.
39 briton (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 09:05 pm Report abuse
sorry it should be

Even the Italians call them liars.
Italian newspaper has published a very critical piece on Argentina
And the world doesn’t trust en either.
40 Artillero 601 (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 09:06 pm Report abuse
Hear ! Hear !
41 reality check (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 09:07 pm Report abuse
Argentina does not talk to anyone and frankly, if your man keeps on treating western politicians as if he is addressing some Venezualian or Cuban revolutionary party from 4 decades ago, they are not going to want to talk to him. He's embarrassing you, come and take him home and for christ sake send someone better next time.
42 briton (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 09:08 pm Report abuse
poor tin man,
he will be glad to get back home after this little trip.
43 HansNiesund (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 09:11 pm Report abuse

I don't think it's fair to be calling Hector “Tinman”. He's much more like the one without a brain.
44 Artillero 601 (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 09:13 pm Report abuse
Hear ! Hear ! at @ 38 not you Briton ! lol

@39 sure, coming from the Italians ... that's a compliment. Did Berlusconi said that Mussolini did good things ?
45 Shed-time (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 09:16 pm Report abuse
I sometimes think that the curse of the 'Malvinas Myth' would burst if he actually spoke to a member of the FIG.

It would be like sleeping beauty waking up.
46 j_j (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 09:17 pm Report abuse
argentinians don't care what about the italian and british shit!
47 briton (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 09:21 pm Report abuse
Mr Timerman denied the Argentine's were 'fanatical' about the Falklands
[The UK] are using the people living in the islands for political [reasons]
he claimed “not one” other nation supported UK sovereignty of the Falklands.

BUT could not name one.
we vill control the world,
Argentina rules the universe
Totally mad , totally stupid..
44 Artillero 601 = thats ok....

46, 46 46 46 46 46 46 , guess what ..lol
48 Artillero 601 (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 09:24 pm Report abuse
@47 :-)
49 XAVIERV (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 09:25 pm Report abuse
I suggest talking to the islanders.

The agenda may be:
1) When you recognize the sovereignty Argentina. Maximum 20 years
2) How will the way the islanders asked apologies on behalf of the crown, having usurped Argentine territory in imperial times.
3) As the islanders make a collection, to return to Argentina's natural resources are stolen and taken to UK.
4) What will be the way back to the motherland.

This one will be a list of interesting topics ..
50 briton (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 09:28 pm Report abuse
your topics perhaps.

but the only topics the world is interested in, is that you stop bullying the falklands and leave them alone.
51 XAVIERV (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 09:35 pm Report abuse
We will honor your request, after March 11.
As follows:
1) No vessel flying the Argentine Sea may write to the islands and not the contrary.
2) No plane that addresses the islands can use the airspace of Argentina, nor the contrary.
Under these conditions leave them alone accept .. That's what they want, right?
52 reality check (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 09:35 pm Report abuse
Ah, you favour ethnic cleansing I see. Better make sure you do not get the opportunity then hey. Twenty years, don't make me laugh, thirty years have lapsed since you lost your last war, thirty years will soon lapse after you have lost this phoney war.
You will still be sitting on your asses in BA wringing your hands and whinging on about how unfair the British imperialists are to everyone in the world, when in fact what you mean is how unfair they are to you!
Three decades I predict and no change! the Islands will still be in the hands of their rightful occupants.
53 Falkland Islands (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 09:41 pm Report abuse
@46 j_j if I were you I would care a lot! :)
54 XAVIERV (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 09:42 pm Report abuse
We can make a referendun now.
Accept or not accept, I am proposing in my post @ 51
You just have to answer yes or no?
55 Falkland Islands (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 09:44 pm Report abuse
for one there is no such thing as the Argentine sea, it is the Atlantic!
56 briton (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 09:46 pm Report abuse
your post made no sense,
but concidering your goverment is flying british airways.

your argument falls rather flat, does it not..
57 Shed-time (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 09:46 pm Report abuse
@56 according to Google there is. It's all over the south Atlantic.
58 Britworker (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 09:48 pm Report abuse
By far the biggest joke, is when he says that he “rules out any future military action”, seriously, what military does he have to take any action, they can't afford to put a ship to sea and when they do it either gets impounded or breaks down.
Can you imagine what would come raining down on them if they even attempted military action.
59 briton (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 09:48 pm Report abuse
but if they aquire their long awaited Empire,
would not the argentine seas be all over the planet.
60 Falkland Islands (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 09:48 pm Report abuse
51 XAVIERV What an idiot you are!
61 screenname (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 09:49 pm Report abuse
@46 j_j: This argentinian cares what about the italian.

62 XAVIERV (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 09:50 pm Report abuse
They can fly on our airline wanting space, including a Briton. But on one condition, the islands can not .. Accepted or not?
63 briton (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 09:50 pm Report abuse
46 in not the brightest tool in the box.lol.
64 Falkland Islands (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 09:51 pm Report abuse
how much did Argentina pay google smother the Atlantic with Argentine Pee.
65 José Malvinero (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 09:52 pm Report abuse
That melodrama we saw and already criticized:


With serious literature there for so long about the Malvinas and they presents that poor liar “brochure”. What is is folded into a single page libel?
“peaceful coexistence” tells the ant to the elephant! or that it was U.S. vs U.R.S.S. at 70s.
“Our desire for normal neighborly relations.” What, we have diplomatic relations with the okupas?“ The limit!
”There are many important issues that we both can usefully address together.“
The Sovereignty? For that we have to discuss with London precisely.
”Falkland Islanders can trace back through heritage Their nine generations“. And give him that! You cant not deceive anyone with that, especially this man born in England. We also have one of those ”from 9 generations“ that is 100% Argentina: Betts.
”I am enclosing a new publication That our Government has just produced“. No need, no used! I I've said.
This english agent who also could have signed the note as ”The English fisherman off Argentine Sea“ could have saved so many words and have simply said: ”Do not touch my fishing company!”
66 Shed-time (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 09:53 pm Report abuse
@63 Dude, your airline is a complete mess full of old planes that can barely get off the ground and regularly drive into other planes on the tarmac because your pilots are all uneducated La Campora fascist brown shirts.

The fact Fat 'Crack' Maximo was given $2.3 billion dollars to buy a new fleet of planes and then consequently 'lost' the money just makes the whole thing even more ridiculous.

So don't pretend people want to fly on Aerolingus 'Plummet' Argentinas, as we'd probably get drugged and thrown out the back like you did with those french nuns.
67 XAVIERV (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 09:53 pm Report abuse
Whenever you can not refute my ideas insult me ​​.. Typical attitude of English! Dear @ 61 Falkland Islands,
I do not know you I can not comment about you and I have not, you do not ask about me.
68 briton (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 09:54 pm Report abuse
They can fly on our airline wanting space, including a Briton. But on one condition, the islands can not .. Accepted or not

[Hang on a minute]
They can fly on our airline wanting space [][its our airlines ]]
, including a Briton, ,, I am but one genius of abt 60 odd million.
Don’t you mean british….lol.
But on one condition, the islands can not ..
The islands cannot fly,
But if they could they would fly our way, not the highway lol.
Accepted or not
To be or not to be, that is the question.

British or argentine,
That is the answer.??

69 XAVIERV (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 09:58 pm Report abuse
YES or NO?
My post @ 51
70 ChrisR (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 09:58 pm Report abuse
Read and laugh at the anti-argie comments:
71 Falkland Islands (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 09:59 pm Report abuse
Alec Betts is not 9th generation, my family were here before him, I would not trust him he is a traitor, If I ever saw him, Terminal!
72 reality check (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 10:01 pm Report abuse
Is this plonker now suggesting that they ban Britsh Airliners from their country and airspace?
73 Shed-time (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 10:02 pm Report abuse
@73 Do you mean Alessandro Betts, the guy who turned his back on his family and people in return for the coin of a ruling military junta? That guy is hilarious. He turns up to the C24, who actually allow him to present, and just rants on like any man would who has discovered that he's abandoned his family and got the passport of one of the worst countries in the world.

Watching him with all his loneliness and his treachery stained face is quite amusing for people.
74 Falkland Islands (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 10:03 pm Report abuse
they are alienating themselves from the world, Hermit argies!
75 briton (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 10:07 pm Report abuse
perhaps a well placed cruise missile aimed at the goverment building when the argentina goverment are all there,

and hey presto,
a new goverment,
what you say..
76 malen (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 10:10 pm Report abuse
so according to this, 2 british are persecuting the foreign office minister of Arg!!!!!!....you should have left the letter in the embassy, its not the way........
and you have the“ right”(according to you) version of the isles history, while the Arg is “uncompromising”!!!!!
77 briton (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 10:11 pm Report abuse
78 reality check (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 10:11 pm Report abuse
That's right they got $800.000 from your president for her last jaunt, right? why, cos you have none of your own capable of fucking flying anywhere out of your own continent, you dipshit!
79 XAVIERV (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 10:15 pm Report abuse
Only thing, after March 11 ..
No more flights to the Americas ..
If they want, they can leave for africa ..
Bye ..
80 briton (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 10:16 pm Report abuse
81 reality check (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 10:21 pm Report abuse
Just watched sky news. apparently skipped scheduled press conference outside the hous eof commons. What was that, did I hear you say, “PREDICTABLE!!!!!!”
82 Anbar (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 10:22 pm Report abuse
Xavier is going?

83 briton (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 10:23 pm Report abuse
he is feeling the pressure.
we dont want him here,

he should dothe decent thing and go home,
but he wont.
84 Pete Bog (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 10:29 pm Report abuse
I have criticised the MLAs in the past for not knowing their history and taking the fight to the Argentines when they spout their usual unchallenged crap.

Looks like the MLAs are now chasing the Argies like a heat seeking missile and now the tide of misguided information against them has turned.


Timmerman, rounded on by the British MPs he stupidly thought would believe his colonial crap, will be seen by the world as a desperate man.

They wanted dialogue and they've refused it.

Timmerman a so called powerful foreign minister, sh1t his pants just because an islander handed him a letter. Argentina's true national flag displayed clearly by this hollow man, scared to death by people he is trying to bully- not Blue and white but the real national flag of Argentina A BIG WHITE SURRENDER MONKEY FLAG.

Timmerman surrenders to two Falkland Islanders. That's what bullies deserve, to be hounded by those they try to bully, OK to hide under the skirts of Venuezuela, Syria Iran and all their fascist chums, but when the resistence shows up, Timmerman runs like the surrender monkey he is.

Pathetic, unstatesman like clown.

The d1ckhead also does not realise that if no country in the world recognised the Falkland Islands Government, then no one would buy fishing licences , oil propsecting licences or trade with the Islands.

Timmerman next at the UN will have an answer from the world when he asks for talks that he has turned down, and why he does not recognise the UN Charter.

Argentina, you have been made to look stupid by your foreign minister.
85 Nostrolldamus the 10th (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 10:34 pm Report abuse
I'm sorry but the caption for the picture is just too much...

“Cheek and Dick outside Westminster”.

l o l

As for the rest, I support the Falklanders on SD (except the letter thing and talks with Argentina, just silly).
86 Malvinero1 (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 10:45 pm Report abuse
#12In less than 20 years Argentina will be under UN control. It will be just like Cyprus or Korea. Once again Argentina is sinking:-

It is run by loonies.
It is financially out of control
Large swathes of the population are impoverished living on just a few $ a day
It is alienating country after country including its own colonial roots - Italy and Spain
It is making itself look stupid by perpetually spouting hyperbole
It is internally disunited with provinces about to disconnect from a lunatic government
It's richest citizens cannot afford to go abroad because their peso wealth is being fast eroded.

The MAlvinenses are desperate...NOOO body supports them in South America....AHAHAHAHAHA poor deluded ex empire...
87 CaptainSilver (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 10:58 pm Report abuse
#88 Another loonie, all fur coat and no knickers! You, my friend are just one of the reasons that Argentina is sinking into chaos. You can't even walk the streets after dark for fear of being murdered and robbed. The Mafia run your country. You are morally and economically bankrupt. Spain and Italy hate you for lying cheating stealing and reneging on your debts. Moreover, you are blind, deaf, thick morons who can't knock the skin off a rice pudding.
Don't worry about the UK, the whole world saw how nice, friendly and generous we are at the Olympics. UK 29 golds, Argentina 1 ! I am surprised you never got more medals for running, you seem very good at it, especially when you invade a peaceful island with 6500 useless troops.

You are just like that ship, you will sink quite soon, and no-one will miss you. You contribute nothing to the world except thesounds of a baby wailing.
You are just like your sinking ship, you are next!
88 Falkland Islands (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 11:04 pm Report abuse
@88 you keep putting your silly little blue and white head in the sand, one day you will take it out and find your country ruined. I cannot see the point in you agreeing with what your country is doing when you know it's wrong, wake up idiot, Argentina will be terminated.
89 Pugol-H (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 11:37 pm Report abuse
@ 21 Artillero 601
Saludos Amigo

Sorry compadre, but he is definitely going back. He is far too valuable an asset to the cause doing what he is doing.

I’m sure you understand :)
90 andy65 (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 11:40 pm Report abuse
I think this 20 year senario is a good cop out for Crissy and Hector lets face it they won't be in power and Kirchner promised she would get The Islands during her presidency
91 Xect (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 11:42 pm Report abuse
Ah CaptainSilver, the UK make a habit out of winning and Argentina makes a habit out of being the loser victim.

It's a cycle that is imprinted into both cultures which is the same reason why we continue to be a major player in the world as small as we are and Argentina continues to be a laughing stock of the world.

The only thing Argentina excels at is failure and dishonesty.
92 redpoll (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 11:42 pm Report abuse
I think La Campora should get some better trolls With thier unintelligible English and repeat of the same thing time and time again, Argentina isnt getting the best results for the few pesos they pay them. Laughable really
Do they work to union rules? In which case which union? The Riachuelo branch of the Buenos Aires Shit Shovelers Union?
93 Shed-time (#) Feb 05th, 2013 - 11:56 pm Report abuse
@94 You'd better arrange that with Maximo, I think he's currently having a cream bun.

Or you could speak to his deputy Comrade GoldKillicoffberg who is currently having thief shouted at him by everyone on a boat.
94 War Monkey (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 12:03 am Report abuse
@55 XAVIERV (#)
Feb 05th, 2013 - 09:42 pm

Seeing as I for one do not understand shitese I have no idea what I would be agreeing/not agreeing to. And even if I did what would be the point? You are a Malvinista and wouldn't abide by the terms of any agreement we ever made with you.

The Falkland Islands are not ours to give and they are not yours to take. Do your worst and stop bitching.
95 Falkland Islands (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 12:13 am Report abuse
Well said @96 the sooner Argentina acknowledge we Falkland Islanders exist the better, one minute they say we are argentine citizens and then in the next we are squatters and then we simply don't exsist? mmmm.
96 Troy Tempest (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 12:52 am Report abuse
@61 Falkland Islands

“51 XAVIERV What an idiot you are!”

Any one notice that XAVIERV never posts when Timerman is making a Malvinista speech???

97 andy65 (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 12:55 am Report abuse
@Troy Tempest

He's dashed out to the supermarket LOL

98 Islander1 (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 01:04 am Report abuse
XAV - What and how are you going to deny shipping coming to the Islands? You had a tray at blackimailing cruise liners into dropping the Falklands from their list and calling just at Arg ports this summer-
Has it worked?
Care to list the number of port calls the Falklands has lost due to political pressure? - it was a mere 3 in the end.

Care to list the number of Argentine port calls so far cancelled by cruise lines who refuse to be threatened by a bunch of nutters? About 10 already that I know of.
Oh- and 2 lines have formally warned Buenos Aires that if the fuss continues- then in 2013-14 summer they will operate out of Montevideo or Brazil instead - those 2 lines will amount to over45 port calls lost between them if it goes ahead.

Who is winning so far?

And if you refuse the Lan overflight- then do tell me how will your veterans and next of Kin families get to the Islands to visit graves and battlefields to lay their mental ghosts and seek closure to their trouble minds?
99 Falkland Islands (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 01:19 am Report abuse
@ 100 Spotty Dog !
100 Pete Bog (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 01:20 am Report abuse
”1) No vessel flying the Argentine Sea may write to the islands and not the contrary.”

Your aggression toward passengers on cruise ships has caused 10 to cancel Argentine ports and 3 to cancel Stanley, with the prospect of more ships chosing Uruguay or Chile over Argentina and continuing to call in on the FI. Congratulations for all the money that has lost you!!! Celebrate defeat as Argentina is good at doing!!

2) No plane that addresses the islands can use the airspace of Argentina, nor the contrary.
Then your veterans won't be able to visit the war graves of their relativesand the FI will arrange flights from St Helena Africa or across the Antarctic from another country, and Chile will loose £millions (note that was millions of £s not worthless pesos).

Argentina has lost £millions in its stupid Deal or No deal losing out from not providing services to the FI oil industry which other countries have been only too happy to provide to their financial betterment.
101 simona68 (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 02:04 am Report abuse
@89 CaptainShit aka Conqueror aka Captain Piss
You are most likely to drop dead like Simon68Zhivago!
102 XAVIERV (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 04:12 am Report abuse
@100 ; @ 102

The economic contribution is negligible Cruises for Argentina, they go to their ports if you need it. We do not need us! These other, they do not touch a drop of the Argentine Sea and if they break not fuck ..
Regarding Veterans and families of the fallen. We have cried enough, Argentina's return to the bodies of the fallen and ready. (No wonder UK refuses to negotiate with Argentina, the repatriation of the bodies)
103 Marcos Alejandro (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 04:29 am Report abuse
”Dick Sawle approached Mr. Timerman, introduced himself and offered a letter and a copy of the newly published booklet “Our Islands, Our History”

Mr Dick

We are not interested nor care about the history of Britain nor your hometown Sheffield.

Good job Timerman!


104 XAVIERV (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 04:35 am Report abuse
A tsunami hit the Solomon Islands in the South Pacific.
Timerman and earthquake hits the Falkland Islands in the South Atlantic ..
105 Lord Ton (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 04:38 am Report abuse

Delusional ?? Yup :-)
106 Marcos Alejandro (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 04:42 am Report abuse
107 Lorton
Nile Gardiner? Hahahahaha

Delusional ?? Yup :-)
107 HansNiesund (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 06:26 am Report abuse

@104 Xavier

You are a fool. It is Argentina that refuses the repatriation of the bodies, on the spurious grounds that they are in the patria already. And thus the relatives of the victims are further made to suffer for your witless Malvinista obsession.

I believe that's your mines there too. If you're taking the bodies now, i'd suggest you take them too.
108 reality check (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 08:37 am Report abuse
Ask him nicely, whilst he's here he can visit you in yor home town!
109 HansNiesund (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 09:52 am Report abuse

Timerman has been doing a fine job reinforcing British support for the islanders. It's just a shame not more people have noticed.
110 reality check (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 10:27 am Report abuse
@109 HansN
Given the current economic situation in countries throughout the world, it is probably more the case of they do not care, rather than they have not noticed.
They have more important things to resolve and become involved in, besides a dispute on the sidelines, designed to divert attention from domestic Argentine problems.
111 ElaineB (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 11:36 am Report abuse
@105 Gosh! That is a gruesome photo they selected!

It is interesting how excited Argentines get when Timerman says something that will not true and will never happen. How easily pleased they are with their politicians.

@66 Do you remember when one of the Aerolineas flights was abandoned because the pilots were flighting in the cockpit? There followed yet another strike
112 Shed-time (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 12:05 pm Report abuse
@11 I remember when an Aeroplummetous plane drove into an Air France plane because the pilots were incompetent, and La Campora.
113 Idlehands (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 12:31 pm Report abuse
When you look through the comments section in articles in the UK press - especially the Guardian - it is apparent that Hector's latest pronouncements have done nothing but galvanise UK opinion against him. There used to be far more diverse views expressed on Falklands stories than there have been in the last few weeks.

Timerman must know this so one must assume it is solely for domestic consumption rather than an effort to attain sovereignty.
114 ElaineB (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 01:39 pm Report abuse
@113 I noticed that too.

And, to be honest, his outrageous claims have made him less plausible to the domestic audience. To say he is unpopular is an understatement.
115 Conqueror (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 01:54 pm Report abuse
@51 This may come as a surprise but vessels can neither fly nor write. Your second point? We'll stay out of argieland's airspace after we've told you where it is. And argie planes can't leave it. OK?
@62 Nobody in their right mind would gat on an argie plane. And islands can't fly. They are fixed!
@65 We understand. Monkeys only like peanuts. Then peanuts is all you'll get. Thank you for proving that you aren't homo sapiens. Are you homo?
@67 Your “ideas” have just been refuted. Back to the nuts, monkey!
@69 You don't have enough brain.
@76 Is there something wrong with that soup between your ears? Assuming you have ears.
@86 Did you notice that the Chilean navy, when necessary, refuels Royal Navy warships? Did you notice that “British” cruise liners call at Uruguay and Chile? Did you notice that you're talking out of your arse?
@102 Thought you'd gone, shiteface? Anyway, your comment. Fine. We sail where international law says we can. Stay out of the way or we'll run your rowing boat down. It was you lot that didn't want your corpses back. But, if you like, we could pour what's left into the “Argentine” Sea.
@104 Don't be silly. Timerman is a puff. No, sorry, that's “pouf”.
116 row82 (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 02:42 pm Report abuse
Please support this page - Falklands Forever British - dedicated to Falkland Islands current affairs, keeping the islands free and poking fun at the lunacy of the Argentine government and their various claims and winding up their Internet trolls - www.facebook.com/truthfk
117 reality check (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 03:12 pm Report abuse
Nice site.
118 José Malvinero (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 03:20 pm Report abuse
115 Conqueror

The only guys in the world who claim that they are descended from APES, are the English with their silly Darwin's evolutionary theory.
But this point it not discussed. The English are monkeys.
119 reality check (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 03:29 pm Report abuse
Says a lot about you then, when you can not even get one over on a bunch of monkeys!
120 Shed-time (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 04:28 pm Report abuse
@118 Better than being descended from something in a 1930's nazi petri dish like most of you guys. That's why you're so angry.
121 reality check (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 04:39 pm Report abuse
Nah, they are angry because we hurt their pride and humiliated them, by defeating them in 82 and there's nothing they can do about it. Getting the islands back would go some way to wipe out that humiliation, erase the stain on their national honour, but that is not going to happen.
122 Shed-time (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 04:45 pm Report abuse
@121 watching this guy march around london shouting like the village idiot is a stain on their national honour. However, it is also hilarious, so I'll leave them to it.

Come on Timmershylock, give us something else to laugh at.
123 GFace (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 04:47 pm Report abuse
@118-120. The Stupid! It BURNS!

When I joked about Malvanistas and SlapHappyCamporas indulging in an odd variant of New World Special Creationism to erase their colonialist, implanted and genocidal past, I had no idea that I was that deep in Poe's Law territory.

Historically illiteracy should be an indicator of scientific illiteracy. Shouldaknown!
124 CaptainSilver (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 05:06 pm Report abuse
Manuel was not Italian and not from Barcelona he came from Rosario! (strong similarities with Tinman and Jose)

How is Basil? Did he emigrate to S Georgia?

Don't mention the war, I did, and I think I got away with it!
125 Shed-time (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 05:20 pm Report abuse
@124 Isn't timmershylock of Lithuanian extraction?

Pieces of 8?
126 José Malvinero (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 05:22 pm Report abuse
Ja ja ja aj! Englishmen proud of their descent from the apes! and they themselves say and do stupid theories about!
We never, we are HUMAN.
127 simona_69 (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 05:40 pm Report abuse
@115 Conqueror aka Captain Poppy/Silver
Did you pay the $800 pesos restaurant bill, yes or no?
128 reality check (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 05:46 pm Report abuse
As long as you think that people exist who are inferior to you, there will always be one thing that you are most certainly not be and that is human!
129 Bombadier Spoon (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 05:48 pm Report abuse
Though I dislike people posting youtube videos on the forum I just cannot resist to post this. This is a funny video fo CFK at the UN trying to persuade the UN to give her the Falklands.


130 ChrisR (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 06:44 pm Report abuse
126 José Malvinero

I do realise that for anybody allied to La Camping-it-up the concept of the 'Origin of Species' must be difficult to comprehend.

However, that does not alter the fact in any way that ALL humans on the planet did originate as Darwin suggested.

So, if you and the other Malvanistas did not fall within ‘Origin of Species’, and it would not surprise me in any way that this was the case, just where did you originate from?

Perhaps you are a delusional Catholic and believe the fantasy of Genesis. It that is the case I suspect all Malvanistas originated from the SNAKE.

Ha, ha.
131 José Malvinero (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 07:05 pm Report abuse

What!!!!!! You do not believe in the Genesis (The Bible) but you believe in the fanciful theory of Darwin!? I thought. The british they believe Gods and of course, its inventor, had to be English. MONKEYS, JA, JA, JA!
132 GFace (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 07:07 pm Report abuse
@130, you'd think according to some of them who deny any association with the Old World that they popped up from the ground in their current demographics in their current (and coveted) territories. No Spanish Conquest. Not even a Berengia. Never colonial. Never implanted. Never succeeding any other group. Oh, the license that fantasy seems to give them!
133 briton (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 07:20 pm Report abuse
harassment is illegal,
This argie politician should have been arrested.

Full stop,
Down with argie dictatorship,
134 GFace (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 07:31 pm Report abuse
@133. To harass someone, the harasser actually has to treat the harassee like he/she actually exists (let alone being “pervasive”, “unwelcome” and “inhibits a reasonable person access to resources required for ones education/employment effectively”)...
135 Brit Bob (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 08:28 pm Report abuse
Timerman wouldn't accept the booklet on the history of the Falklands because he doesn't want to know the truth. If he knew the truth he'd book himself in to the nearest psychiatric clinic.
136 Idlehands (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 08:37 pm Report abuse
118 José Malvinero

You are misunderstanding Darwin. Humans did not descend from apes. Humans and apes descended from a common ancestor. There is a multitude of evidence to support Darwin's theory and absolutely no evidence whatsoever for the story of Genesis.
137 Musky (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 09:22 pm Report abuse
@136 Too right.
Of course George W Bush was a proponent of the theory of 'Intelligent Design', the joke being that he is evidence to the contrary!

Timmerman visits the Mother of All Parliaments, the parliamentarians give him this opportunity to talk to parliamentary groups, to peddle his wares and in return he refuses to respond in kind. Disgraceful.
138 briton (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 10:16 pm Report abuse
they are descent from the MAGOGS.

The Magog are human-sized predators covered in a loose, shaggy pelt. They feed on sapient beings..
139 José Malvinero (#) Feb 06th, 2013 - 11:31 pm Report abuse

“There is a multitude of evidence to support Darwin's theory”

Mr. atheist, although it is not the sovereignty of the Malvinas Argentinas Islands, here's a fun working on the “indisputable evidence” so riddled with falsehoods Darwinian theory. I hope you enjoy it as much as me.

140 Troy Tempest (#) Feb 07th, 2013 - 03:50 am Report abuse
@139 José

Mr. Papist, how much money did you give to the Vatican this year??

Now who's the dummy???
141 DanyBerger (#) Feb 07th, 2013 - 06:23 am Report abuse
And meanwhile in the real world...

More bad news from UK, the idiots will have to borrow more than expected for this year around 64bn Pounds or 86bn USD.

No enough with that the UK CaMoron OM plans to introduce more cuts...

142 ChrisR (#) Feb 07th, 2013 - 10:53 am Report abuse
139 José Malvinero

Were it not for the fact that you are not even up to being a complete idiot I would recommend that you read Origin of Species for yourself.

The problem is of course, even written in Espanol it would be way over your comprehension level, being, as you are, at the level of a MONKEY.

My apologies to all the monkeys.
143 José Malvinero (#) Feb 07th, 2013 - 11:19 am Report abuse

Chau, MONKEYS! The Argentines we are HUMAN!
144 redpoll (#) Feb 07th, 2013 - 12:38 pm Report abuse
145 ChrisR (#) Feb 07th, 2013 - 03:28 pm Report abuse
143 José Malvinero

I rest my case!
146 briton (#) Feb 07th, 2013 - 07:01 pm Report abuse
they cant get any worse surley lol.
147 redpoll (#) Feb 07th, 2013 - 07:28 pm Report abuse
Well Chris monkeys is the word usually used by arrogant Argentines for thier Brazilian nieghbours Makakos I believe is thier expression
148 briton (#) Feb 07th, 2013 - 07:33 pm Report abuse
Brazil should throw nuts at them lol.
149 Pugol-H (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 12:10 am Report abuse
The Germans call the Brits “Island Monkeys”.

I always told them, no, we are Rock Apes, far more dangerous
150 DanyBerger (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 03:52 am Report abuse
Insel der Affen

Lets play with them
151 Karl101 (#) Feb 08th, 2013 - 04:35 pm Report abuse
Please support this page honouring all those who helped liberate the Falklands in 1982 and dedicated to keeping the islands liberated and free of Argentine colonialism.

152 lsolde (#) Feb 10th, 2013 - 05:57 am Report abuse
@143 José M,
Do you really think that you are human? l wonder sometimes.
But are you humane?
Killing 30,000 of your OWN people, makes me doubt this.
And if you read the Bible(do you?, l do)you will realise that especially the Old Testament is a very bloodthirsty book.
An example:-
“And Joshua and his men took the city, and put everyone in it to the sword. Men, women & children, & even the animals”.
“Then they destroyed & burnt the city & there remains not one stone upon the other to this day.”
Hardly a book of Peace. The Bible was written by men, not God.
l do not know whether we descended from an apelike creature or not.
But if we did, then that include you Argentines as well.
You are not something special, even though many of you think you are!
Just ask your neighbours what they think of you! lol.
@150 DanyBerger,
That also includes you katoffelkopf!

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