Scandal extends to Europe: horsemeat in frozen lasagne and spaghetti Bolognese
British Environment secretary is to meet representatives from the Food Standards Agency and meat retailers and suppliers to discuss the horsemeat scandal. Owen Paterson said investigations into how beef products had been contaminated with horsemeat were ongoing but “the evidence so far suggests... it is either criminal activity or gross negligence”.
Tesco, Aldi and Findus have all had to withdraw food products. But the Metropolitan Police says it is not investigating any alleged criminality.
A statement from New Scotland Yard said: “Although we have met with the FSA we have not started an investigation and will not do so unless it becomes clear there has been any criminality under the jurisdiction of the Metropolitan Police service.”
Food minister David Heath said frozen food should not be discarded, and advised consumers to carry on eating meat unless told otherwise.
The FSA has asked UK firms to test all processed beef foods, but said it did not “suspect there is any health issue with frozen food”. And Mr Heath said the government's advice was “exactly that” of the FSA.
However shadow environment secretary Mary Creagh has expressed fears that other contaminated foods may be found.
Mr Paterson said: “I completely understand why people are so concerned about this issue. It's totally unacceptable that people have been sold something that is not what they think it is.
”We believe that the two particular cases of the frozen burgers from Tesco and the lasagne from Findus are linked to suppliers in Ireland and France respectively.
“The French authorities are saying they are viewing the issue as a case of fraud rather than food safety. Anyone who has these products in their freezer should return them to retailers as a precaution.”
Supermarket chain Aldi said tests on its Today's Special Frozen Beef Lasagne and Today's Special Frozen Spaghetti Bolognese showed they contained between 30% and 100% horsemeat. These had already been withdrawn after a warning from French supplier Comigel, which has told both Findus and Aldi that its products did not “conform to specification”. Comigel also said it had withdrawn all products related to its own supplier.
Findus UK became caught up in the row this week after horsemeat was found in its lasagne. The FSA said Findus had tested the meat in 18 of its beef lasagne products and found 11 meals in which it contained between 60% and 100% horsemeat. The meals have been withdrawn by Findus.
The FSA also said it was “highly likely” criminal activity was to blame for the contamination.
There is also a wider issue for the European authorities. The rules on labelling for meat products are fairly straightforward. But the rules are less clear on the provenance of meat when it comes to the ingredients of processed products. And food analysts are now calling for a review.
Since Comigel also supplies the Benelux, Scandinavian and Eastern Bloc supermarket chains, this is fast becoming a European problem.
Horsemeat may not pose a significant risk to humans but the health of European food processing is very much open to question.
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British Environment secretary says...:
“ Investigations into how beef products had been contaminated with horsemeat were ongoing...”
I say....:
Nice example of British “Stiff Upper Lip” or, as we mortals call it, “Lies”...
“Beef products **”contaminated“** with horsemeat”, he says......
“100% contaminated with horsemeat”, the laboratories say....
Brainwash anybody?
It is far more complex than you seem to be able to comprehend.
You mean like...: The London Interbank Offered Rate (LIBOR) scandal....
A scandal far, far more complex than you seem able to comprehend....
You better keep commenting on ladies shoes and nerve medicines....
You seem to feel quite at home about those topics....
Yes, it is bad BUT at least we do something about it whereas Argentina denies any possible irregularities in its financial dealings.
YOU are doing something about it?
YOU?
The London Interbank Offered Rate (LIBOR) scam has been going on for, at least, thirty (30) years.
If it wasn't for some AMERICAN bankers trying to save their own skin from going to prision, it would have continued for another 30......
And what does LONDON do?
Say to the rest of the world...:
”We are sorry, old Chaps....
W'ont happen again ;-)
Precisely the kind of British “Stiff Upper Lip” aka “lies” your British Environment secretary shows when calling it..:
**“Beef products contaminated with horsemeat”**
When reality is..:
**“100% pure, unadultered horsemeat”**
Brainwash anybody?
Why is it so difficult to keep your mind focused on one topic? You are rambling about unrelated subjects like shoes and medication.
You like to portrait yourself as a person with some knowedlege about Economics....
Yet, your mayor contribution on these pages has been commenting about purchase of ladies shoes and use of nerve medicine........
.........Or lifting your little, acusing finger, telling us how your “many friends in Argentina” tell you how bad things are in Argentina....
However, when confronted with your own challenges, your turnipy arguments are...:
”( 2 ) ElaineB .... It is far more complex than you seem to be able to comprehend.“
Or....:
”(6) ElaineB ....“If you were able to watch the news reports here you would see that this has been fully reported and discussed.”
Brainwash anybody?
So, as much as 40% contamination ; )
www.dailysquib.co.uk/health/3789-traces-of-cow-meat-found-in-british-burgers.html
Yupppppp.....
The “All New” British Burger...
50% pantomime horse...
50% mad cow... ;-)
BBEQ
British pantomime horses....
And mad cows
I told you British safety standards are only on paper, none controls anything in UK.
And the next time suppliers will use rat meat and they will eat anyway because they are so dumbass.
What will happen in UK? Nothing as always because UK is a falling country.
Never eat meat or something contain meat in UK could be dangerous trust me.
Talking to me or to the turnip at (12)?
I “Think” your humour is good.....
Is it the concept of self deprecating humour that evades Argies?
Lets try some standard humour.
www.dailysquib.co.uk/world/3804-bankrupt-argentina-wants-to-move-whole-country-to-falklands-for-uk-benefits-culture.html
Hold your horses Trunce.... (and eat them :-)
I just said at (15) that the humour at your comment (10) was “GOOD”
I even included a smiley ” ;-) ”at my comment (11)
Is it the concept of reading what's written that evades Brits?
“Is it the concept of reading what's written that evades Brits?”
Not usually for me, but on this forum, I sometimes have difficulty with direct Google translation of articles Spanish/English which have to be re-read to grasp and sometimes guess at the intended meaning.
Interesting that he seems to honing in on the British part of the story when it is Britain that is blowing the whole thing into the open.
Especially considering one if the main culprits is Findus-a SWEDISH company.
And the source of the meat may be from FRANCE and/or ROMANIA!!!!!!
Though the EU consumes 80,000 tonnes of horse meat a year, about a third of which is imported from countries including ARGENTINA.
Now that would be funny. God forbid Argentina lose another source of export income. Perhaps Findus could repackage it for export to Argentina.
Lasagne with 100% Argentinean Horsemeat.
THIS is not:
www.ncjrs.gov/App/publications/Abstract.aspx?id=122656
“The 1981 discovery that horsemeat and kangaroo meat were being substituted for beef in meat exported by Australia to the United States and other countries produced widespread changes in Australian law and administration related to commodity exports.”
Now we know what they mean by “down under”.... hahahahahahaha! yummm
British beef is amongst the safest in the world, that is a fact. This news story concerns PROCESSED food using meat from other countries and processed, for the most part, in other countries. There is nothing wrong with eating horse meat and Argentina exports horse meat for consumption in countries that enjoy eating it.
This is likely to be a criminal investigation because the processors, retailers and consumers were lied to by the suppliers of the meat. Where the meat came from has been reported as Romania, Ireland, even Argentina but it will take time for the facts to be confirmed. A thorough investigation will determine the source.
I agree that I wouldn't eat processed food but it is for sale in supermarkets in the UK and in Argentina (I know, I shopped in them when I lived there for months at a time). So, some Argentines do eat processed food, even if you don't.
I prefer to cook from scratch when I am at home but I have no control over what I am served in restaurants on my travels, other than to choose a good establishment or take a recommendation. It works most of the time though I did get salmonella poisoning from a restaurant in Mar del Plata and once had the worst meal I can ever recall in a restaurant in Chiloé; I swear everything came out of a tin and was inedible. But that is not bad considering how much I travel.
Don't be too quick to crow.
“HSI said ex-racehorses and other animals were routinely given veterinary drugs banned in the EU, where consumers eat about 80,000 tonnes of horse meat a year, a third imported from outside the union, much of it from Argentina, Canada and Mexico.”
www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2013/jan/17/horse-dna-burger-additives
Let's make one thing perfectly clear....
Horse meat is excellent meat....
Donkey meat is even better.....
Problem is those bloody lying, cheating Poms selling it as “Veal” or “Beef”.
PS:
A Tucker Tip for our young but ignorant Ozzie mates….
Best lasagna in the world is made with chicken giblets, veal sweetbreads andpigs brains….
www.classic.com.au/wizard/Vincisgrassi.htm
Canada and Mexico are in North America, veterinary drug capital of the world. Argentina does not use them... we are too poor anyway, remember?
No tainted horsemeat like the UK, no kangoroo meat like Australia, no mad cow like Brazil, no BGH cows... that's why there hasn't been a mad cow case on a human in Argentina in 247 years unlike Europe, and no rampant “premature sexual maturity” in girls, unlike in the USA, Mexico, etc, where girls are getting their periods at age 8.
”Problem is those bloody lying, cheating Poms selling it as “Veal” or “Beef”
Apparently not. The lying and cheating seems to have been on the part of foreign suppliers.
One thing I learned about European Nations....
When things go well... it's the Individual State's merit.
When things go wrong... it's the other European States's fault.
They honestly can't see that Think, I've been trying to tell them for months how pathetically sad they appear when they engage in such behavior, but they still do it.
It's an incorrigible European trait I suppose. They do that all the time with their history too.
For example, when they want to insult Argentina about not having as many “contributions” they proudly vaunt: “Europe... acqueducts, printing press, telescope, cars, the ”www“... our history is so much richer than yours too”.
But then when I naturally (and predictably) mention all the wars, the tortures, the genocides, the disease, the crusades, etc... they immediately jump “oh, but you can't blame US modern Europeans for that!”
They want all the appurtenances of long history but disown all the baggage. Same as you said, with taking all the credit when their nations do something well today, but then blame the UN or EU if something just doesn't go well.
It's puerile, it's vacuous, it's sad.
“No tainted horsemeat like the UK, no kangoroo meat like Australia”
As Think said - nothing wrong with horsemeat. There is nothing wrong with kangeroo, croc, or anything else, providing it is safe and you are indeed eating the animal you think you are eating.
@28
Whatever your perception - still to early to draw your conclusion.
Anyway, I'm off to Pizza Express, they have a new horsemeat Pizza - Pony Express.
Your humour is still good...
Almost as good as Argentinean humour...
Hope you get better at reading what's written.....
Regards
El Think, Chubut, Argentina.
For your information, horse meat to far leaner and more healthy than beef. You are right that chickens in Argentina are awful. One of my much travelled Argentine friends pointed it out to me. She said. “Our chicken is awful, scrawny and tough, nothing like the chicken in Europe”. So maybe you should consider that.
Thank you for your non-denial denial.
ps - I have no problem with horse meat. I woudn't eat it, I could eat duck or jabali so who am I to judge. I do have a problem if they try to sell me horse meat as “beef”, or I go eat a hamburger and it has kangoroo in it. I guess you Europeans have lower standards.
Don't worry too much about it Elaine. Tito The Clown Troll, given enough rope will always, always hang himself, poor blind fool.
“I guess you Europeans have lower standards” you see what I mean? he tries to understand, but it's all a bit beyond him.
@34 Exactly! As I said in my post @ 22 it is the fact that someone in the food process is lying that makes this criminal. It seems to be the meat suppliers and who that is has yet to be confirmed.
Wake up, Rumplestilskin, he Arg pres is a woman. Say the magic words with me: Merkel.. Lagard.. Dilma!!!!
•The Australian government has experienced 60 quarters of growth!! -their minimum wage is $16!!. Their leader-Julia.
•Sweden & Finland have more females than males (Finland 60%) ministers in governance.
•New Hampshire, the WASPy U.S. state near the top of the U.S. quality of life index-100% female everything.
•Canada's major governors are 80% female-& they've 'best run economy in the world'.
Lol.
I wonder if Prince William was fed with Tesco burgers.
“Among the substances being tested for are ”bute“, a painkiller used on horses which makes them unfit for human consumption”
Mad cow and now this?
What the hell this people eat or feed their animals.
@14 Shit on argieland. No-one will be able to tell the difference!
@15 Who's a faggot? A cowardly, argie faggot. Existing in Scandinavia. On “benefits” are you, slug? Or do you just bend over?
@17 Why don't you bacteria understand that we find you funny? Watch out, Domestos on the way!
@18 No, you eat what you are TOLD is beef. It's actually reconstituted argie shit. Doesn't it come over as a little glutinous and “smooth”? Probably from your “neighbours”. Enjoy!
@23 Why would argies want to stop eating shit? Feeds the psychosis. Lovely argie shit. How do you advertise it? Pre-digested?
@25 Thanks for your support. So much for argie lies!
@26 No truth like argieland! Before I retired, I am proud of the amount of argie “meat” I had destroyed.
@29 But then, why would anyone civilised have a conversation with a genocidal murderer? Or a murdering genocide? Have you ever thought that you don't deserve to be alive? We can come to the question of whether a brainless animate should survive later?
@34 You may be right. We haven't killed you, have we? Yet!
@38 We're considering feeding them argie corpses. Fresh, of course. are you volunteering?
“Especially considering one if the main culprits is Findus-a SWEDISH company”
Not sure about that - a little Googling indicates that owners may be Lion Capital,
a UK private equity company.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion_Capital_LLP
@38
”Ahh that's the reason why so many English have a horse-face! :-))”
Hmmm - not sure how high that ranks on the humour score - a little inspiration perhaps ; )
www.dailysquib.co.uk/world/3279-new-christina-kirchner-portrait-shows-troubled-soul.html
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/findus-fights-back-blame-game-spreads-across-europe-as-minister-warns-of-horsemeat-in-other-meals-8488229.html
Once again The Great British bring to light wrong doings in the world.
before malvistas get on their high horse heres a little something to chew over.
Argentine government Imposes Ad Ban to force non-governement dependent newspapers of out business. “smells like dictatorship” :)
online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324906004578292433748498360.html
Shooting murder of key witness Eleven train Tragedy, convenient for argentine governement
www.clarin.com/policiales/Leonardo_Andrada-asesinato-cuatro_disparos_0_862713945.html
Jewish leadership claims to be “shaken” by the advance of the dubious agreement with Iran and argentina
www.timesofisrael.com/argentine-jews-suspicious-of-bombing-probe-deal/
Bright spots in Latin America despite argentina and venezuela poor performance
businessmirror.com.ph/index.php/features/global-eye/8975-bright-spots-in-latin-america-despite-global-economic-uncertainty
as for horse it can be quite tasty, but if you have paid for beef you should have beef, however it is a shame all that great very cheap food being wasted at well stocked UK shops when we could easily send it to a 3rd world country like argentina to help out all those poverty stricken people not having enough peso for their daily basket along with food shortages it just all seems a terrible waste, when we could give it to the very neediest of the world.
SELF-DETERMINATION.
Hint: 4% unemployment, no real.poverty and everyone has a crazy high standard of living.
Switzerland has had a female president.since 2000, and a majoroty female cabinet since 2010. Good job, Eveline!!
You probably were fed with dog food for years and you don't have a clue.
Your government tells you that the beef that you eat comes from healthy cows and Malvinas belong to UK....the reality is not.
“Horse meat could be found in even more British foods within days, ministers warned on Saturday”
www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/foodanddrinknews/9859946/Horse-meat-scandal-More-contaminated-food-likely-to-be-found.html#disqus_thread
still i would get yourself checked out for mad cow disease, you are showing worring symptoms and we wouldnt want you contaminating my corned beef!
SELF-DETERMINATION.....Its contagious!
They tell their people that your food is made with cow beef but instead is horse meat or God knows what else.
all is for sale.
The personal wealth of the Kirchners, their relatives and key business and political associates rose dramatically: in her recent sworn statement of personal assets, Cristina Kirchner admitted having a net worth of over $ 70 million.
”When asked how she had managed to amass such a huge fortune with her modest salary as congresswoman and then President, she explained this was the result of her “successful career as a lawyer”. However, she has never been able to produce evidence that she even graduated from Law School, nor evidence of any lawsuit in which she collected substantial lawyer’s fees.
LOL Crissy as your money Crissy and Maximo get rich while Marcos Alejandro
lives on less than $7 per day.
You should go now and camp outside the supermarket so you can be first in line for the horse burgers
The brits are just mad because the horse meat, being a little tougher than cow, is hard to chew with those rotten teeth. :-)))
They sale food but have no clue what are they selling.
British FSA is not controlling these unscrupulous business are selling to the defenceless British consumers.
Companies as always in corrupted Britain will not get any sanction (like the banks) and in 3 months the same companies will be selling hamburgers with meat rat on it and if something happen they can always use the “Wasn’t me” trick ask Romanians...
Then you wonder why Britain is a dysfunctional falling nation?
Wasn't the capitalist system supposed to prevent all that crap by ensuring that competition brought out the best in people and products? It sure seem to fail CONSTANTLY on that one!
Thanks very much for that link. Quite interesting really that you want to judge modern day Australia by something that happened 32 years ago in 1981. Nothing more recent?
Why do I find this so interesting? Well you are the first to jump up and down when modern day Argentina is tarred with the brush of 1981. You know, a year in which Argentina wasn't a democracy. Was run as a military dictatorship. Not sure if they were still throwing people out of planes in that actual year. And the economic problems were mounting. The Falkland Islands seemed like such a convenient scapegoat.
You continually harp on about how disingenuous all the non-Argentineans are when they bring up examples from the past to attack the present. Mind you I'm not surprised you are such a hypocrite.
But I'm glad you once again highlighted how well Australia does things. 32 years ago Australia had a food standards problem and it tackled that problem. It hasn't been repeated. Indeed we now try to regulate foreign countries through our live trade exports-not something I'm not in total agreement with.
32 years ago Argentina had a problem. I think it was called 'La última junta militar'! Interesting that it is just the LAST one. Have to differentiate from the others I suppose. Didn't learn after the LAST one before? Or the one before?
Did Argentina learn? By the increasingly autocratic tendencies of the current Argentinean government, the answer would seem to be no. By the mounting economic problems, the answer would seem to be no. By the increased Falkland Islands rhetoric, the answer would seem to be no.
Indeed considering the current state of the Argentine economy, it appears as if mistakes from less than 30 years ago are starting to be repeated.
32 years ago Australia had a problem and fixed it.
32 years ago Argentina had a problem and is now repeating them.
So tell me, which country did you paint in a bad light with you comment?
Australia learns.
Argentina doesn't.
Argentina: never sold kangoroo meat as beef.
Argentina: never sold horse meat as beef.
Argentina: no cases of mad cow in its history
No need to learn anything.
“No need to learn anything.”
The usual arrogant statement we have come to expect from you.
Every country needs to learn either from its own mistakes or the mistakes of others.
The trouble with Argentina is that it does not seem to have grasped this principle.
Your problem, as a self confessed isolationist, you think that your Country“mendoza” can live in a bubble of perfection requiring nothing from outside your boundaries. Good luck to you if this is what you believe.
North Korea thinks like that but its neighbour South Korea does not,
In which country would you rather live ?
“You can't learn from mistakes when you are perfect.”
Oh I've never claimed that Australia is perfect. That would be false and conceited.
But it is a hell of a lot better off than Argentina especially considering we have such similar histories..... well we were lucky enough to have the British Empire found us and not the Spanish Empire.
“Argentina: never sold kangoroo meat as beef.”
I'd hope not! Have you ever seen a kangaroo for real? From the DFAT website:
'The Australian kangaroo industry estimates that it exports kangaroo meat to more than 55 countries. Kangaroo meat is increasingly popular and export markets are expected to increase since kangaroo is considered one of the finest game meats. Its growing appeal stems from its well-flavoured, slightly gamey taste. Kangaroo meat contains very little saturated fat relative to other meats and is high in protein, zinc and iron.'
Worth about US$250 million a year. Nowhere near our US$5 billion exports of beef.
And I don't shy away from your claim. We did wrong and fixed the problem. Has there been a repeat of this since 1981?
Argentina: never sold horse meat as beef.
Correct I am guessing. I'll take your word. Australia has. Back in 1981!
“Argentina: no cases of mad cow in its history”
Neither has Australia.
Let's try some more:
Australia: never had a case of foot and mouth
Australia: never had a military government.
Australia: never defaulted on debt.
Australia: never had inflation above 30%
Australia: never re-denominated a worthless currency.
Australia: never invaded a neighbour
Argentina has had all these things SINCE 1981.
“No need to learn anything.”
Really? Australia learns from countries like Argentina all the time.
And when it comes to learning from our mistakes, we don't keep repeating them like Argentina.
It only the EU had learnt from our mistake.
Now the idiots were exporting meat from Britain to the continent infected with dangerous hormones for humans.
“Animals slaughtered in Britain for consumption in EU contaminated with drug harmful to humans”
www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/news/exclusive-fsa-accused-over-tainted-horsemeat-sent-to-europe-8488550.html
I reckon the idiots here living in deny that were talking about the high standards on food that exist in UK that they have to start to get in touch with reality...
Who the hell is running your country you fool???
A MAD COW
You really need to get to grips with reality my friend
The story says that 23 samples in the past “TEN” years were detected as being contaminated. Think that shows that the system works. Hows that for reality?
By the way, hows your beef exports doing, still banned from the states?
I know how desperate you anti-Brits are trying to make this entirely a British issue but you fail miserably. British meat is safe. Horse meat was illegally sold by Romanians for process in France and sold to the UK as beef. This scam has been uncovered in the UK and the government are dealing with it.
Think on this.... how do you know your processed meat is 100% beef in Argentina? Can you really trust your government that lies to you every single day?
You know there is a price freeze but your government says not.
You know inflation is out of control but your government says not.
You know crime is at an all time high but your government says not.
How can you trust anything CFKC and her goons tell you?
And hey if we were filthy, why would Scotland be one of the highest rated countries in the world for earnings per person, press freedom, living standards and education? It's a whole lot better than whatt Argentina has...
SELF-DETERMINATON...
even in bolognesa beef meat isnt so processed, you can cut the beef with knive in big pieces, why do you eat all so processed???
Very simple Malen, not only British food is horrible they don't know how to cook...que rico mi asadito hoy(beef)
63 ElaineB
Selling a product as beef, and including horse in it is fraud isn't?
Britain at is best.
The British expert Argentine Ex pat, giving us the benefit of the knowledge he has gleaned from living here all these years and at the same time stabbing us in the back. Typical Argentine, can not understand why? if he dislikes it here so much, he does not go back home. He surely can not be in any danger anymore, the juntas been long gone. Could it be that he prefers living life here in the UK, to living there. Would certainly appear to be so.
Doesn't he realise the meat is imported mislabelled from the EU. Truth be, he knows full well it is, but in typical Argentine fashion, he lies anyway.
The retailers in the UK have been the victim of fraud.
I don't know if you have ever been to the UK but to say the food is horrible is stupid in the extreme. Some food is shit and some is excellent. The same as in Argentina. Interestingly, the number of people, particularly in BsAs, that complain about the food there is high. Menus are pretty similar in so many establishments and the people there complain endlessly about it. Pasta, pasta, pasta. No decent chicken anywhere and cheap cuts of meat unless you eat in expensive restaurants. (These have more tourists than locals).
@67 I agree. But Argentina sells processed meat also in supermarket meals. Personally, I wouldn't eat ready meals but people do in the UK and in Argentina.
Stop trying to grapple for a straw to clutch at. Just feel lucky you have food to eat because it will soon be beyond your meagre income.
He knows the UK. He should do, he lives here! he's an ex pat!
Never bothered me personally, except to the extent that horse (no control on the product) is sold as high-cost beef (massive controls), making under-the-counter big profits to those who sell one product masquerading as another.
Have regularly and happily eaten goat, rabbit, hare, pigeon, horse, crocodile, ostrich, deer, .. even agouti rodents (tepizcuinte, paca, gibnot) etc., but have veered away from monkey and other 'bushmeats' in order to conserve wild species.
For me the only issue is of 'profit from misrepresentation'.
@74 I agree completely.
Have you tried Kudu? Delicious.
OMG, how many times that I have to say that I don't have a single drop of British blood on me? I know my English is horrible and I can easily be confused with one of you.
I visited your country for a few days long ago, I had a good time and most of the people I met were real nice(not like the MercoPenguin News crowd)
71 ElaineB
You have to know where to go eat well in Argentina, not necessarily you need to go to an expensive restaurant, my humble parrilla will do it.
About British food
Haggis (probably just something used to scare children)
Shepherds' Pie at its best, it is pretty bad.
Baked beans as a breakfast food.
Well, you tell me what did I miss.
About the horse meat fraud. blaming the French(so British) and anybody else is not really the point here, no FSA tests for horse(rat/snake..)-meat in a decade is the real problem.
All the meat I could see was sourced from Scottish farms.
Beef all Scottish sourced.
Lamb was either Scottish or New Zealand, (if frozen)
Pork was from various UK or Danish sources.
Venison Scottish or New Zealand .
Milk sourced from local Scottish dairies - I can see the cows from my back window.
Poultry is sourced from our local Agricultural college - no hormones or anti-biotics permitted.
So. it appears we are fairly lucky here as we do not buy any processed meats other than salamis or cold ham.
#68
Where does Argentina appear in the top restaurant guides ? They are not quoted in the top 50 ! An Argentinian chef is quoted at no.99 for his restaurant in LONDON !
Remember, food is a personal taste. You prefer Argentinian cooking, I may not . It does not mean that either of us is right. It only shows our preferences.
If you prefer eating beef regularly, with the increased risk of bowel cancer, good luck to you.
No no no, why I would do that? :-))
Three days and all that knowledge about the British, not English, diet.
Impressed by your knowledge of the Greta British Fry up Breakfast, the Baked Beans, very clever.
FSA, nice use of the correct acronym there by the way.
you do not live here, pull the other one?
But are these brain dead Argies interested,
Its always the fault of the British,
Talk about desperation and obsession.
A very poor effort at criticising British food. Seriously. And this from an Argentine. I have been to asados where they eat EVERY PART of the animal. Parts I would only give to a dog. So quit trying to make out Argentine food is world renowned; it isn't. Your beef is considered good but you know very well that the best Argentine meat goes for export and not the domestic market.
Something I enjoy about travel is trying the local cuisine and it is hit and miss. Some is great and some is puzzlingly bad.
Mortadela tastes looks different than other meats, and its processed, its easy to distinguish.
And Marcos, those scones that are so british, have you ate them??? Pure dry, and no taste at all.
And Elaine, you can ask the butcher, to process (picar) in front of you the meat, and you can choose what meat in Arg.
@79 You have to be forgiven. How would you recognise “intelligence”? It's not as though you or the majority of the rest of your herd has any!
Stinks of an organised fraud to me.
“Stinks of an organised fraud to me”
About time you start using your brain Brit :-)
I am beginning to consider your offer to move to England after reading what this lazy Somali got from your great government.
Horse meat for you, nice home for this “hard working people” :-)
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2155726/Somali-family-benefits-handed-keys--2million-luxury-council-home-Londons-affluent-streets.html#axzz2KWqjtwy7
No I haven't but I can imagine :-)
91 Save that house for me.
Britain has been a soft touch for dishing out well intentioned benefits, to such an extent that some cannot match job income against the benefits. Benefits are regardless of origin, a new EU arrival gets as much as british national. New limits have been introduced so limits benefits to £25,000 pa, the average household income. Prior to this limit, benefits were effectively unlimited. This particular type of case is becoming rarer and rarer. It's a fantastic house in fantastic location, jammy buggers.
Stop talking BS please. Will you?
Any dog in Argentina even from the streets eats far, far, far better meat that what you can eat in a expensive restaurant in UK.
The meat ate in Argentina has an average of 2 days after the animals was sacrificed that makes a substantial difference with a similar cut in UK that at least got 6 months frozen.
Chicken, chicken, chicken, bla, bla your chickens comes mostly from Brazil and they are all over Europe.
All “commercial” chickens are processed using an industry standard that was taken from Netherlands called Chille or something like that. People in Argentina complain about chickens because they want chicken from “Granjas” that means the chicken was raised naturally like 50 years ago and without any industrialisation stuff.
So in short UK has the worst food I have ever seen, don’t trust Argies ask any French and he will tell how bad is the food in UK compared with France, Italy or Argentina.
The problem with you seems to be that you got accustomed to eat British crap food and when you do that it is quite difficult to know what is good or bad.
@Clyde15
Why always Britons talk about having restaurants in a list as Synonymous of good cuisine?
No arguments perhaps?
If you want seduction go to the love parade in Berlin sure someone will indicated your new role in the relationship.
And do you know what?
Will not cost you a penny...
but will hurts for sure...Ouch!
well what do you expect for something that is free?.
Sorry mate strictly hetro, but don't let me put you off, what you do with your own orifices, is your own business. But don't forget, safe sex, rubber up, you know it makes sense.
No, no I know it just because a former Royal navy marine told me while he was confessing with tears in his eyes his love for his superior officer.
More sensitive he became when he started to ask to other fellow about how the life under the deck as if he was missing something...
Well you know another sad love story that you can find in British forums.
Wow, do tell. I am enthralled. Was that before or after? he ripped you a new orifice, to replace the one you wore out.
Very obliging the RM even former RM's. He probably remembered the procedure from the last time he had a nocturnal liaison with an Rg conscript, on some romantic windswept South Atlantic mountain.
A little rude of him really, could have waited till the lad finished working on his menu.
Now show your appreciation to the nice RM treat this one with more care.
and what he says to the mans face,
is entirly two different things.
They are importing enough horses from Argentina
www.meattradenewsdaily.co.uk/news/050511/argentina___horse_meat_sales__tons_from__horses_.aspx
My point is that I have lived in BsAs for months at a time and when I had an apartment there I used the supermarkets. You have packaged meat and meals just the same as the UK.
But back to the main point. This appears to be a part of a serious fraud originating in Romania. None of the meat passed off as beef has been tested as harmful, (though it is early days in the investigation) and the issue is one of fraud.
You keep saying how crap food is in Britain and how wonderful it is in Argentina.
I was just quoting from a top restaurant survey which did not have 1 Argentinian restaurant in the world's top 100.
If what you said was true then there should have at least been 1. Brazil had 3 I think !!
As to your laughable rant about the quality of food in the UK, it just shows your supreme ignorance on the matter, unless, of course, you have a degree in veterinary science or food hygiene - which I doubt.
It is pretty obvious that you know very little about food in the UK . If you want crap food, you can certainly get it - mostly imported at a low price. Locally produced food, beef, lamb pork and venison is exported at a premium price because of its quality and is available here - at a price..
You say British food is crap and inedible, I have heard the same about food in Argentina. Generalities are not necessarily true.
Anyway, no one could take any of your posts as unbiased or having anything other than a small basis of fact extrapolated to a ridiculous extent.
I have been to both the UK and Argentina many times. IMO the quality of food in the average Argentinian restaurant is far higher than the quality of food in the average UK restaurant. I do not have a degree in Veterinary Science or related field. My judgement on the quality of the food in both countries is based simply upon eating it.
So, what is the food like where you live?
we just want fish & chips, not to complicated is it .lol.
Don’t be stupid please everyone in the world knows what kind of crap is the food in Britain.
Now the news about the horse stuff and the contaminated food is being displayed all over the world.
CNN
cnnespanol.cnn.com/2013/01/16/descubren-hamburguesas-contaminadas-con-carne-de-caballo-en-gran-bretana-e-irlanda/
America noticias Perú
www.americatv.com.pe/portal/noticias/internacionales/encuentran-hamburguesas-contaminadas-con-carne-de-caballo-en-irlanda-y-gran-breta-2013
Bad Food Britain by Joanna Blythman
“Award-winning investigative food journalist, Joanne Blythman turns her attention to the current hot topic - the state of British food. What is it about the British and food? We just don't get it, do we? Britain is notorious worldwide for its bad food and increasingly corpulent population, but it's a habit we just can't seem to kick. Welcome to the country where recipe and diet books feature constantly in top 10 bestseller lists, but where the average meal takes only eight minutes to prepare and people spend more time watching celebrity chefs cooking on TV than doing any cooking themselves, the country where a dining room table is increasingly becoming an optional item of furniture. Welcome to the nation that is almost pathologically obsessed with the safety and provenance of food but which relies on factory-prepared ready meals for sustenance, eating four times more of them than any other country in Europe, the country that never has its greasy fingers out of a packet of crisps, consuming more than the rest of Europe put together. Welcome to the affluent land where children eat food that is more nutritionally impoverished than their counterparts in South African townships, the country where hospitals can sell fast-food burgers, but not home-baked cake, the G8 state where even the Prime Minister refuses to eat broccoli. Award-winning investigative food journalist...
www.goodreads.com/book/show/840614.Bad_Food_Britain
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