Monday, February 11th 2013 - 04:18 UTC

UK expects Uruguay to respect the Falklands’ referendum, which is a three sided event

British ambassador in Uruguay Ben Lyster-Binns said the coming referendum in the Falkland Islands involves the people of the Islands, United Kingdom and Argentina and expects the Uruguayan government to respect the referendum even when Foreign Minister Luis Almagro anticipated that the country will not recognize the results of the ballot.

Ambassador Lyster-Binns

“It will be a very significant event in which the people of the Falklands will make their voice heard worldwide, regarding their political status and future, and we want that decision to be respected”, said Ambassador Lyster-Binns in an interview published in the Sunday edition of Uruguay’s leading newspaper, El Pais.

He added it is an issue that involves three sides, the people of the Falklands, the British government and the Argentine government and “the collective discussion between all sides is the logic way to being understanding the different points of view and interests which is in other words talking to each other”.

The British ambassador explained that is why Foreign Secretary William Hague invited his Argentine counterpart Minister Hector Timerman during his visit to London to also meet with representatives from the Falklands’ government, which “regrettably Timerman did not accept. We are willing to discuss the issue with Argentina at any moment, always with the participation of members from the Falklands elected government since we are talking about the future”.

On March10/11 the people of the Falklands will reply to the following question: Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom? YES or NO”

“The voice of the Falklands’ people deserves to be heard”, said the British ambassador who paraphrasing Foreign Secretary Hague indicated that the Falklands have become a thriving democracy with a growing economy and through nine generations the people of the Falklands have worked tirelessly to establish their position in the world. “This will be a chance for the people of the Falkland Islands to express their views about how they wish to be governed, and in a democratic and incontestable way without other people speaking for them and for this they have the British Government’s full support”.

Lyster-Binns said that the right to self determination is guaranteed by the UN charter and praised Uruguay for its commitment to human rights, acknowledged internationally, for its abidance with the rule of law and International law, keeping to the rules of the game and a country where democracy “is one of the most precious values”.

When asked about Uruguay’s sponsorship at a Mercosur summit to bar all vessels with the Falklands’ flag from entering the group’s ports, the British ambassador said that all vessels heading for the Falklands are welcome in all Uruguayan ports as long as they fly the red ensign. “In fact it was President Jose Mujica who said he did not like to isolate people or interrupt trade”.

Finally Ambassador Lyster-Binns announced that a business delegation from the Falklands’ Development Corporation will be visiting Uruguay to explore alternatives to increase bilateral trade.
 

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1 Nostrolldamus the 10th (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 04:22 am Report abuse
So that puppet state the UK wanted as a 2nd choice outcome in the Brazil-Argentina war (choice 1 being Brazilian victory... but the UK chickened out of entering the fight on Brazil's side against us)... still expecting some dividends from it? lol
2 puerto argentino (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 04:43 am Report abuse
the most stupid question in the referendum, that UN does not consider as valid! The bloody questions !!!! would you like to remain a British pirate in the Malvinas Islands Argentina, The options are: yes or yes

haaa, haaa Piratesss go with the referendum to scotland!!!
3 Anglotino (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 04:49 am Report abuse
What's that I hear?

Gnashing of teeth by the looks of the above comments.
4 LEPRecon (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 05:40 am Report abuse
@2 Argentine port

Some evidence that the UN doesn't consider the questions or the future result of this referendum valid?

Is this like when you Malvinist's claimed the UK had broken UN resolutions? Then the UN General Secretary, Ban Ki-Moon, said we haven't ever broken any.

Is this like when you say the UN doesn't recognise that the Falkland Islanders are people, and therefore have no right to self-determination? Then the UN General Secretary, Ban Ki-Moon, says that they are 'people' and have the right to self-determination. Not only that, but all those defunct UNGA resolutions you like spouting, ALL said the that the wishes of the Islanders (self-determination) have to be taken into account during any sovereignty talks.

Your foreign minister, Mr Timerman, has shown the world the reason Argentina shouldn't get their hands on the Islands. Everything he said was for consumption by gullible people like you. The International Community looked on with a mixture of amusement at his amateurish antics, and horror as he casually disregarded human rights, because they are inconvenient for Argentina's position.

And what did he actually achieve? He can back with a paper signed by 'the undersigned', but no actual signatures on it! His so-called group of 18 REFUSED to actually sign his ridiculous document, and they were 'no-doubt' hand-picked sichophants from a few countries. But NOT one of them was 'anybody' from a foreign government, NOT one of them represented the EU or the UN. So basically you had a group of no-bodies, and even the no-bodies, wouldn't sign Timerman's silly document.

His antics have completely destroyed Argentina's credibility diplomatically and politically. Your government has destroyed Argentina's credibility economically.

And yet despite all their rhetoric, the Falklands remain under the control of the Falklanders, and under the protection of the UK. The March referendum will show the world what the Islanders want.

Argentina's wants are irrelevant.
5 Troy Tempest (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 05:49 am Report abuse
@01Arifu/TTT

What are you doing on here???

You must have been first one in the pool!!!
Just couldn't wait to slag the Brits and 'muddy' the waters, could you??!!

Hey, remember this?
” (dispute I do not support my country pursuing). The islands should remain as they wish to be”

Now here you are!

Just like to hear yourself pontificate, don't you?

That's a rhetorical question only, not really wanting to hear the wriggling, squirming, rationalising, or moralising that I know will piddle forth.
6 Xect (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 07:21 am Report abuse
It's interesting to see Tobias posting on something he said he never would and then to top it all his post is incomprehensible in its complete lack of logic or reality.

Post 2; is a bunch of unsubstantiated nonsense. The UN never said any of those things.

It seems this referendum is hitting hard with its results killing any argument Argentina may have had.

Maybe the hysteria we are seeing around this is reality setting in for those who have been propagating the Malvinas lie.
7 Trunce (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 08:08 am Report abuse
@4

Timermans smoke & mirrors stunt convinced no one, except perhaps some of the home audience.

english.ruvr.ru/2013_02_08/New-outbreak-of-Falkland-Islands-Malvinas-war/
8 Shed-time (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 08:50 am Report abuse
@2 You sir, like most argentines, are a liar and even worse you know you're a liar. So where is the proof that the UN doesn't support referenda within the remits of decolonisation or otherwise? (see [1])

@6 I did wonder. He does seem to have lost it.

[1] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokelauan_self-determination_referendum,_2006
9 HansNiesund (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 10:09 am Report abuse
@1

Your disdain for your neighbours isn't limited to those of British descent, then?
10 Boovis (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 10:12 am Report abuse
Question: if the referendum resulted in the islanders stating “no, we want nothing to do with the UK”, would the Argies wet their pants and say “welcome home” or just refuse to accept the result? “No, no, they don't want to be part of Argentina because it's a fixed poll etc etc...”?
11 reality check (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 10:56 am Report abuse
I did not see the word “expects” used in this article, did I miss it somewhere?
I see the words, “We want that decision to be respected.” The word “ expects” has connations similar the Argentine favourite word “demands.” I do not think that this what the Ambassador said, or indeed meant. Perhaps it is the papers word rather than the Ambassadors.
I might be nit picking, but the Argentine would only jump on it to accuse us of colonial and imperial arrogance.
12 golfcronie (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 11:08 am Report abuse
@10
I bet you do not get a sensible answer to that.
Still only 26 more days and we will find out.
I am sure they will vote yes, they are going to be VERY,VERY RICH in a few years time
13 CaptainSilver (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 11:15 am Report abuse
@1 &2

The important thing is sovereignty. If Argentina believes the Falklands is theirs take your case to the International Court of Justice. You don't dare do it, do you because you have no case whatever? Furthermore, the population of the Falklands, some of whom can trace their ancestry back to before 1833, don't want Argentinean rule.

They don't want to be a pariah nation under warning by the IMF, they don't want the influence of Chavez, Castro and Iran, they don't want corrupt politicians and police, they don't want 30% inflation, they don't want a fast depreciating currency, they dont want to live on $7 a day, they don't want Argentinas Mafia, they want to be able to walk out after dark without the threat of being raped mugged or murdered, they don't want a society where you have to have iron bars on your windows to keep out theives, they don't want any guns like you see as a 'must have' and they don't want Latin Alien Culture. And, in the referendum in March they will vote for what they want to retain, their association with Britain.

They do want to retain the British culture, the quiet village atmosphere of the their towns and villages, they do want their own independent government, they do want the friendship and protection of a powerful friendly nation, they do want no crime fraud or guns on the street, they do want wildlife and fisheries carefully and intelligently managed, they do want controlled tourism, they do want to retain their British heritage, the British education of their children and they also want peaceful and friendly relations with their neighbours. This last desire is constantly frustrated by the aggressive and vocal actions of Argentina who they do not like or trust.
14 golfcronie (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 11:30 am Report abuse
@13
Great article, but unfortunely a waste of time because the Trolls on here do not understand logic.
They understand that in 26 days their little game is up. What on earth are we going to argue about in the future?
15 Captain Poppy (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 11:37 am Report abuse
Once again titti boi nosy the running nostril chimes in with nothing and finds a way to say nothing and contribution ...nothing on one side of the other. Your momma's nipples are affecting your thinking nostril. Go back to school, if you have electricity.

When the UN refers the the Falklands as the malvinas (Falklands) they will support Rgentina . But the UN officially refers to the Falkland Islands as the Falklands (malvinas) because they support the UK and Falklanders. Remember all you malvinista's, malvina's are in parenthesis for PC reasons and nothing else otherwise malvina's would not even be they. One of these days the British are going to get so pissed off at your bullshit and slap you rg's down for all your feet stomping. In fact the world is getting near that point as well, less Syria, Iran and N. Korea.
16 reality check (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 11:58 am Report abuse
@1 Nosey.
You young lady are really something else. Trying to comprehend your inellect, is like pioneering a whole new branch of psychology and proof positive, that education is not necessary a true indicator of intelligence.

Firstly, you put a post on here accusing the British of making war on you in 1805, 1807, 1826 qnd 1854. Invading you four times. I point out you have distorted the truth, a polite way of saying you lied, that in fact the war of 1826 was betwwen you and Brazil.

Then you make the ridiculous connection, that because the British supported, politically, the Brazilians, they have the same have status combatants against you. Ergo the British were at war with you. A fascinating concept, but one which does not seem to have been adopted under international law.

Now and this really is the best bit. Now, because the British did not actually ally themselves in combat with the Brazilians against you, you accuse them of cowardice! I can hardly type for laughing

If you are a true representation of the inelligence of your nation, there is little wonder they produce diplomats of the calibre of Mr Timermann.

What's more, even further evidence why the Falkland Islanders are absolutely correct in not wanting any form of governance by you.
17 DanyBerger (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 12:24 pm Report abuse
More worthless pirate tactics...

The referendum is just for domestic consumption, doesn’t matter if the Islanders desire to become British, Chinese, Bolivians or part of Pakistan.

They are illegal occupants of Argentina territory and sponsored by a pirate corrupt nation like Britain and must be treated like that.

Argentina should sue Britain for 4 trillions of dollars in concept of reparation for economic damages.
And if they don’t pay as always they do Argentina should confiscate British assets & companies until full payment is issue.

UK should learn to respect western civilisation and that cannot be out of law.

Otherwise Unasur should send the Armies to make comply with the law.
18 inthegutter (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 12:49 pm Report abuse
#17 You're absolutely deluded and blinded by your hatred. Tell me, even if Falklands had been taken from Argentina what about the land Argentina stole in Patagonia and from Paraguay.

The British let you off easy in 1982, they should have bombed your military into the ground until you (a) apologised and (b) paid reparations (including paying for the removal of the anti-personell mines you so nicely left).
19 Idlehands (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 12:57 pm Report abuse
17 DanyBerger

Instead of just ranting about it on the web why don't you spend your time encouraging your government to implement your logical well thought out proposals?
20 Anbar (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 01:08 pm Report abuse
“”“”that UN does not consider as valid! “”“”

its amazing how some people will believe anything they are told: the UN has never said anything like this, ever...its just been made-up by Timmidman.

“”“Otherwise Unasur should send the Armies to make comply with the law.”“””

haha... i very much doubt you will ever find Brazil or anybody else in South American to actually go to war for you... particularly not over the Falklands.
21 Clyde15 (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 01:11 pm Report abuse
#17
More Argie bullshit ! Actually it is very good pirate tactics. It's akin to late TV program called call my bluff.

1) Yes it does
2) No they are not
3) Argentina should pay the UK for reparations as a result of their brutal attempt to destroy the lives of the Islanders. Oh, I forgot, Argentina is not too good at repaying its debts Is there not some case being held in the USA about this very subject. Argentina, always the hypocrite ! You have good track record of thieving from foreign companies.
4) The UK 's record compared with Argentina is exemplary and Argentina has not yet qualified to join western civilization.
5) Argentina is so shit scared of Britain that it wants someone else to do the fighting. If Britain was attacked by UNASUR then we would have to go nuclear. Our first target Buenos Aires. But I don't think your chums would want to have anything to do with a nut case nation threatening war over a small island chain over which it has no claim.
They would all take a sharp step back and say it's your problem, deal with it.
22 Redrow (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 01:12 pm Report abuse
@17 DanyBerger

If you want to sue then go to court and sue. If you want to contest sovereignty then go the ICJ and contest it. But why sit here complaining. You might just be one case away from getting what you want. Alternatively you have a few weeks left to convince the Falkland Islanders what great colonial masters you would be. If they believe you then you can get the islands that way instead. And yet here you are.
23 yankeeboy (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 01:14 pm Report abuse
The referendum's timing is perfect. Everything is falling apart in Argentina, I think they are shocked the IMF put them on the road to expulsion, I am very sure NYC courts will rule against them and WTO case is fast-tracked which they will lose.
The Falklands timing couldn't be better and I think CFK and minions have lost all control and are rudderless.
What a lovely site.
24 Captain Poppy (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 01:17 pm Report abuse
#22 they true reason that they have not taken that course of action is that would result in a definitive legal result. It is much easier for rgentina to waive the UN resolution in one have and kirchner shaking timmerman's balls in her other hand.
rggentina need's to wake. The power's that be in the world are not going to continue feeling sorry for rgentina and look the other way because they have no military or national defense. Someone is going to do more than kick sand in little rgentina's face.
25 yankeeboy (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 01:23 pm Report abuse
24. You know 3-4 of us could buy USA/UK surplus military gear on Ebay and probably have a good chance of doing that ourselves!
It is more and better than the Rgs have or could do!
Hahaha
I was watching the movie battleship with my RG friend and he commented that the Mighty Mo was way better than anything they have now! He is really embarrassed of the current state of the country.
26 LEPRecon (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 01:32 pm Report abuse
@17 - Dany

Poor deluded Dany.

It's quite funny reading your rants, that have no place in actual reality.

Tell me, Dany, why should the rest of UNASUR fight for Argentina?

Are you saying that Argentina is SO WEAK that they need someone else to fight your battles for you? Pathetic.

But tell me, just what would you give the rest of UNASUR if they did fight your battles for you? The Falklands? A share in the oil?

Do you think that any of the other UNASUR countries would trust Argentina to keep to your side of the bargain once the fighting was done? I mean why would they believe Argentina? You have NEVER kept to a treaty in your history!

But let's imagine shall we, that UNASUR all join together to invade and steal the Falklands.

The UK, sends troops, and because sovereign British territory is in danger of being invaded, we involke Article 5 of the NATO charter as well as Article 15 of the UN Charter.

So instead of just facing the UK military, you are also facing the rest of NATO's military, and the Commonwealth, and the UNSC.

You see, Dany, by your statements you have confirmed two things:

1. Argentina hasn't got the military capability to fight its way out of a wet paper bag, let alone invade the Falklands.
2. Argentina is a coward because it doesn't have the guts for a one on one fight, like any bully you are only 'brave' when you are surrounded by your mates.

Just like you were 'brave' in 1982 when you sent 10,000 troops to subdue a population of 2,000 unarmed civilians and 70 armed Royal Marines.

Then a significant number of British troops turned up and your 'bravado' evapourated, rather than put up a proper fight.

Your troops surrendered to a smaller force, that on the whole had less advanced weaponry than Argentine troops, and that force had to travel thousands of miles. A battle that every military expert on the planet said the UK couldn't win. Yet somehow we did win.
27 yankeeboy (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 01:43 pm Report abuse
There are a lot of opinion pieces today in the RG press talking about the economics of the 70s returning to the country,
Price Freezes
Hyperinflation
Devaluations
Unemployment
Depression
CFK must be in a panic
a drug addled
panic
28 Trunce (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 01:46 pm Report abuse
@24

“and kirchner shaking timmerman's balls in her other hand.”

Sorry to disagree, but just as Malvinas - they don't exist.
29 Steveu (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 01:55 pm Report abuse
@7 Oh yes, I forgot, she was going to prosecute any oil company with interests in the Falklands

I hear Noble are quaking in their boots!
30 reality check (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 02:02 pm Report abuse
Where will they prosecute them? Ah yes, the Argentine courts, well I think we can all pretty much agree that the verdict is already in on that one. The rulings would carry us much clout as a chocolate sponge.
31 MATTAT694 (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 02:08 pm Report abuse
A few days ago, Argentina's populist female president Cristina Kirchner ordered a price freeze on food products. This price freeze was levied against the largest food retailers in the country, and it is just the latest example of utterly insane economic policies made by populist national leaders who inevitably end up causing massive suffering and economic damage to the nations they claim to lead.

In case you're not familiar with Kirchner, this woman is a mafia-style criminal, a populist political hustler who has, for years, fabricated economic data to claim Argentina has low inflation. (In truth, the inflation rate there is over 25%.) She has been caught using government-created money to pay off political bribes. She has been slapped on the wrist by the IMF for falsifying economic data, and now she is about to thrust her country into nationwide food shortages that may very well be followed by riots.

The people of Argentina deserve better than Kirchner. Argentinians are, by and large, extremely friendly and capable people, yet they have suffered under the most absurd dictatorial rulers for at least a generation, possibly longer. Kirchner is just the latest in a long line of thuggish betrayers of the people who elected her.

“Cristina Kirchner's Argentina illustrates an alarming trend. Her government has expropriated major foreign investors, falsified statistics, destroyed central bank independence , used the nation's currency reserves for political payoffs, and faces default,” writes Paul Roderick Gregory at Forbes.com

Welcome to the land of populist governments led by charismatic people who have no clue whatever how economies work. These national leaders are a disgrace to humanity, and nations like Argentina would be far better served if they through Kirchner in prison rather than listening to any more of her delusional economic demands.

For starters, the price freeze means that food importers will halt most imports because they would lose money by selling their
32 reality check (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 02:13 pm Report abuse
carry on
33 malicious bloke (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 02:20 pm Report abuse
@31, got a link to the original article?

If it's substantiated, it's (again) probably the worst thing a country can do when faced with spiralling inflation.

Once food importers can't import any more, they'll soon find that domestic producers don't want to sell in the rapidly deflating domestic market, preferring to export it.

So naturally CFK will have to pass more laws demanding that farmers satisfy domestic demand first, which will basically destroy argentina's trade surplus and eventually drive farms out of business, fueling further unemployment and adding an extra burden to the state's dwindling capital reserves necessitating even more inflationary measures and the whole sordid cycle begins again.

Welcome to being the new Zimbabwe...
34 Trunce (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 02:22 pm Report abuse
@29

Threats of legal action are an acquired strategy from their new best friend.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2145866/Iran-threatens-sue-Google-omitting-Persian-Gulf-label-map-service.html#axzz2KZtYrbbi

www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/02/02/286842/iran-will-sue-spain-for-ban-on-media/

www.guardian.co.uk/business/2013/jan/29/iran-threatens-sue-bp-pollution-oil

www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/01/31/286578/irgc-to-sue-us-over-spy-drone-flights/

www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/30/iran-bankmellat-eu-idUSL5N0AZEOB20130130

www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/15/iran-murdered-nuclear-scientists

english.ruvr.ru/2012_07_29/Iran-to-sue-US-EU-for-sanctions-damages/
35 yankeeboy (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 02:24 pm Report abuse
33. They already have harsh import/export rules. That is why they didn' produce enough Wheat for export this year which was the 1st im in their history!
The next step is to confiscate stored Soy and Corn based on a hoarding law and then expropriate the farms for being “unproductive”.
It's just a matter of time
wait for it
36 Shed-time (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 02:27 pm Report abuse
”In 2008 and then in 2011, when inflation rose across the globe on the back of high food and fuel prices, many countries allowed the high global prices to pass through to the domestic economy. In some cases the government may directly set prices (as some did in 2008 to prevent high food and fuel prices from passing through). Such administrative price-setting measures usually result in the government accruing large subsidy bills to compensate producers for lost income.” [1]

Hmmm.... subsidy bills... lost income

[1] www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/fandd/basics/inflat.htm
37 yankeeboy (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 02:30 pm Report abuse
26. yeah add in a 40% increase in monetary base w/ a 20% currency depreciation and you have the perfect storm ready and waiting.
38 Conqueror (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 02:37 pm Report abuse
@1 Why would Britain fight a little colony? Just see what we did to you in '82. We travelled 8,000 miles with less than 10% of our armed forces. From first contact, beating you took us 51 days. And you with all your numerical superiority. 12,000 plus troops compared to our less than 10,000. 122 combat aircraft compared to our 42. And you being less than 400 miles from “home”. Much less distance to run away over. eh? Just think what the most powerful navy in the world could have done to you in 1826. And the British Army had beaten the French Army several times between 1807 and 1815. Would have been like stepping on an ant!
@2 Says who?
@17 What a moronic argtard you are. The referendum is for the “international community”. We shall see who respects the will of “the people” and democracy. Argieland won't. But then, it's not a democracy. Kicked your sorry arses before. Want us to do it again? I would recommend that we don't stop until there are at least 60,000 argie dead. What a funny comment from argie(we never pay our debts)land. Let's demand argieland pays its £10 billion reparations for the Falklands War. UK DOES respect western civilisation and law. Trouble is that your cesspit has neither. Oh, come on, unasur. Brazil, Uruguay, venezuela and argieland. Only got 423,000 “army” personnel. Britain has 260,000. No problem. Any British soldier is worth at least 20 latino surrender monkeys!

Getting desperate, argtard slobs? Here's some “future history”. March 2013. Falklands votes to remain UK BOT. June 2020. Falklands votes to discuss independence with UK. 2030. Falkland Islands and UK agree independence in 2035. UK commits to Falklands Defence Treaty “in perpetuity”. 2036. Argieland stamps its feet, whines and leaves UN. 2037. UN Security Council member UK arranges passage of Security Council resolution denying UN membership to argieland for minimum of 100 years. Resolution also requires all argies to submit to psychoanalysis. And then re-education or euthanasia!
39 Shed-time (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 02:54 pm Report abuse
all of this failed commie-economics, sheer size of the figures being passed around and you start understanding why people are shouting at them in the street and on boats.

They can try to blame it on fascist elements (peronism = front for victory = hitlerism = fascism) but they're still the ones responsible to furking everyone.
40 Simon68 (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 02:55 pm Report abuse
33 malicious bloke (#)
Feb 11th, 2013 - 02:20 pm

“@31, got a link to the original article?”

I've found the original, it is at: www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2013/02/04/no-one-ever-learns-the-argentine-price-freeze/
41 jorge_68 (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 03:06 pm
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42 yankeeboy (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 03:44 pm Report abuse
40. That is a devastating article in Forbes.
It looks like the world is finally wising up to the shenanigans of this dictator.
I hope the people at home are too.
43 Terence Hill (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 04:13 pm Report abuse
17 DanyBerger

Yet again, blowing holes through your bullshit. Heres the verdict of international law, so I wish Unasur should send the Armies to make your lying thieving nation comply with the law.

ICJ judge, Dame Rosalyn Higgins, wrote: “Attractive an aphorism though [self-determination] is, it still has to be said that the territorial issue does come first. Until it is determined where territorial sovereignty lies, it is impossible to see if the inhabitants have a right to self- determination” (Dame Rosalyn Higgins, Problems and Process - International Law and How We Use It, Clarendon Press, Oxford, 1994)

The British jurist Rosalyn Higgins arrived at a similar conclusion when she pointed out: “No tribunal could tell her [Argentina] that she has to accept British title because she has acquiesced to it But what the protests do not do is to defeat the British title, which was built up in other ways through Argentinas acquiescence.80” There was therefore little doubt that Britain acquired title to the Falklands by extinctive prescription. In other words, it was in this mode that the strength of the British claims resided.
80. Rosalyn Higgins, ”Falklands and the Law,” Observer, 2 May 1982.
The Falkland War : Britain versus the past...Daniel K, Gibran.

It is therefore not surprising that the General Assembly declared
in 1970 that the modem prohibition against the acquisition of territory by conquest should not be construed as affecting titles to territory created 'prior to the Charter regime and valid under international law'
Akehursts Modern Introduction to International Law By Peter Malanczuk
44 Shed-time (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 04:53 pm Report abuse
@43 Most argentines would be unable to say 'extinctive prescription' let alone understand it as a legal concept, accepted widely within international law.

Can anyone remember the commenter on here who pretended to be a professor of international law who couldn't string together an argument if he tried? Well there was a long drawn out thread about the relevance of 'uti possidetis', 'uti possidetis juris', 'status quo ante bellum' and 'extinctive prescription' as relevant legal concepts under which to define the UK's undeniable legal right to the islands. His response was weak to say the least and pretty much stopped commenting after that. It was clear even in the eyes of the law that the UK's claim was stronger than was made out.

I laughed.
45 gay from London (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 05:16 pm
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46 golfcronie (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 05:43 pm Report abuse
Sorry we did not ask you to give us your expert advice
@ 45 You certainly made a fantastic first impression
47 yankeeboy (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 05:53 pm Report abuse
44. I'm sure that was A toby incarnation.
That same “attorney” is also selling obsidian and jade out of suitcase on Florida ave.
48 toooldtodieyoung (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 05:59 pm Report abuse
45 gay from London

“none of the comments found at Merco-British Crap-Press worth to read!”

and you are posting on here because............................?
49 Brit Bob (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 05:59 pm Report abuse
@1 & 2

Only one man's words on the Falklands referendum are relevant - and those are from the Secretary General of the UN Ban Ki-Moon.

When speaking to a reporter from the Argentine newspaper Tiempo Argentino on 12th November 2012 about the Falklands referendum Ban Ki-Moon said, quote: 'The impression is that people who are living under certain conditions should have access to certain level of capacities SO THAT THEY CAN DECIDE ON THEIR OWN FUTURE.'

Ban Ki-Moon also confirmed that Britain is not in breach of any resolutions on the Falklands.

Argentina is running scared!

falklandsnews.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/ban-ki-moon-united-nations.jpg
50 Leiard (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 06:05 pm Report abuse
@48

It's only Sussie Nostrolldamus the xxxxxx
51 liza (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 06:16 pm
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52 toooldtodieyoung (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 06:16 pm Report abuse
1 Tito The Clown Troll

Oh, well done, very well done Tito!! Always first with the wrong answer!

Now, lets have a comment from someone who is not a complete retard.
53 briton (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 06:17 pm Report abuse
No matter how much those nasty Argies abuse and treat us,
We still want to include them in talks, even through we don’t exist according to CFK government,

No matter how nasty, we still want to be friends,
mmmmmmmm
Wise of foolish ??
////////
Remember, if the boot was on the other foot,
There would only by ONE country in all this,
Argentina full stop,
Friends, mmm what would we do without them lolol.
54 Redrow (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 06:17 pm Report abuse
@45

And when faced with legal terms that sounded very complicated and a bit scary, the claimant resorted to calling London “gay”. Having carefully weighed up this line of argument the judge found against the claimant.
55 Britishbulldog (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 06:23 pm Report abuse
Meanwhile back in the real world of the bitch thats ruining her country.

www.naturalnews.com/039030_Argentina_Cristina_Kirchner_price_freeze.html
56 yankeeboy (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 06:29 pm Report abuse
55. Bravo, good find!

I promise everyone here I am not the author! I think he has been following my posts for a long time though...

Kirchner, like many other dictatorial tyrants throughout history, is an egomaniacal murdering criminal who is best dealt with through the use of a short rope and a tall tree. The best message Kirchner could possibly announce to her countrymen at this point would be the message that is broadcast by having a corrupt, criminal regime ex-tyrant swinging in the breeze without a pulse. Only then will the hard-working people of Argentina get what they truly deserve: SOMEONE ELSE other than Kirchner at the helm.

Let it be known that the day the Kirchner regime is removed from power -- and this evil woman is marched through the streets to face the people whose lives she has ruined -- will be a day of great celebration for liberty and justice around the world. To all those in Argentina who are right now fighting against the criminal regime of Kirchner, let it be known that there are many of us here in the USA who are praying and cheering for your victory against tyranny.

May you achieve victory and rid yourself of the putrid parasite known as Kirchner.

Learn more: www.naturalnews.com/039030_Argentina_Cristina_Kirchner_price_freeze.html#ixzz2KcHfa4gX
57 AB_90 (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 07:01 pm
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58 briton (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 07:04 pm Report abuse
57
R U Russian.
why are you here.
59 Clyde15 (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 07:12 pm Report abuse
#57
No we wont. We will take our teddy bear away and YOU will be sorry. I will then go and tell your Mum, haha
60 briton (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 07:18 pm Report abuse
he will just throw his other toys out of his pram lol.
61 ChrisR (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 07:35 pm Report abuse
Try understanding the argies by reading the comments in Clarin about the price freezes. About 1/3 of them think it's great.

With idiots like that AR has to be fucked for a generation or more.
62 Steve-33-uk (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 07:36 pm Report abuse
'Alicia Castro said it was “unthinkable” to discuss the sovereignty of Falkland Islanders - Argentina's ambassador to the United Kingdom, Alicia Castro, said today a “media maneuver” the referendum to take place in a month the people of the Falkland Islands , and said it was “unthinkable” a trialogue for sovereignty, because the theme is “bilateral” between Buenos Aires and London....'
www.lanacion.com.ar/1553850-alicia-castro-asegura-que-es-impensable-discutir-la-soberania-de-malvinas-con-los-islenos

'MPs criticize suppliers be Uruguayan referendum on Malvinas'
espanol.upi.com/Politica/2013/02/11/Critican-a-parlamentarios-uruguayos-que-ser%C3%A1n-veedores-de-referendo-en-Malvinas/UPI-51971360590850/

'Disseminates UN Latin American position on Falklands'
www.prensa-latina.cu/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&idioma=1&id=1101241&Itemid=1
63 briton (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 07:41 pm Report abuse
And we bet the UN just wish, CFK would just drop dead.
or get lost or disapear,.
64 GeoffWard2 (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 08:15 pm Report abuse
Oh, go on!
Everybody knows it's a One-sided issue with a tesselation of interested parties surrounding the only player in town.
With no venn-overlaps the bit-players can never come to territorial agreements ... except by the explicit consent of the only player in town.

It's a bugger when the Milky Bar Kid holds the hand with all the Aces ;-)
65 green_68 (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 08:20 pm
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66 briton (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 08:30 pm Report abuse
And you are right,
again and again and again.

shame then you still dont have the british falklands.

still
you cant be right all of the time.lol.
67 golfcronie (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 08:41 pm Report abuse
I understand from the official press in Argentina that Argentina are going to the FALKLANDS to clear the thousands of mines that they left there. Apparently they have read the Irish Mine Detection Manual.
1) Stamp 3 times and if silent move one pace forward ( could be a dud )
2) Stamp three times and if noisy you will more than likely be dead( probably live )
68 redpoll (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 09:03 pm Report abuse
Isolde Sussie again in one of its many guises. Argentina should declare war against the Brits. They didnt last time with a sneaky invasion of your islands and the Brits didnt declare war on Argentina
Go ahead Sussie. Declare war and then the gloves are off
But you Sussie will be nice and safe up in Tampa USA plying your profession wont you?
69 liza (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 09:10 pm
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70 brucey-babe (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 09:32 pm Report abuse
All this bickering and no-one has explained to me when I start sending the food parcels and to whom ?
71 Captain Poppy (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 09:42 pm Report abuse
She's in Tampa now? Geez....she should go to Miami with the Cubans.
72 golfcronie (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 09:48 pm Report abuse
Someone stole the Tesco vouchers that were in Richard the Third's hands, prior to them being cut off. Not accusing anyone you understand.
73 redpoll (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 10:10 pm Report abuse
Susssie says she never reads my posts and yet she replies with the scintilating riposte “is better keep your mouth shut” Brilliant, Sussie, quite brilliant ,your unexpected contribution to the debate
74 liza (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 10:37 pm
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75 golfcronie (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 10:55 pm Report abuse
@74 Liza
We didn't invite you Darling, hey fellows help me out here, she keeps hitting on me
76 Shed-time (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 10:56 pm Report abuse
@74 How delicate a lady you are, with a mouth like primroses.
77 redpoll (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 11:05 pm Report abuse
Primroses ?More like fox gloves. Digitalis you know- good for the heart you know. No I think deadly night shade would be her chosen plant. Poisonous to be sure and more in line with her announced profession
78 screenname (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 11:25 pm Report abuse
@62 Steve-33-uk:'Disseminates UN Latin American position on Falklands'
www.prensa-latina.cu/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&idioma=1&id=1101241&Itemid=1

You've just got to feel sorry for Ban Ki-moon. It must be like banging your head against a brick wall. Everytime they drop something on his desk he must get a sinking feeling in his gut.

I see this link now says Argentina has a 'dossier' where they claim there has now only been 100 years of usurpation. At least it must be quite amusing for Ban Ki-moon that Argentina have still not got their fairy tail straight.
79 golfcronie (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 11:33 pm Report abuse
Liza
I love when a girl talks dirty
80 Captain P0ppy (#) Feb 11th, 2013 - 11:55 pm
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81 redpoll (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 12:27 am Report abuse
@80 Where is Urugay? Cant find it on any map
82 Captain Poppy (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 12:27 am Report abuse
It is pretty obvious that #80 is quite riled enough from my posts that it created a name simular to mine to post trash........it will be deleted based on your email and/or IP
83 golfcronie (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 12:32 am Report abuse
@82
Looks like the “ o ” has been changed to “ 0 ” as in Zero
Thought you had changed sides Ha Ha
84 Captain Poppy (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 02:14 am Report abuse
No I will never change. There are Argentines I like and love, I married one, it's the kirchner's I hate with passion.
85 jonas_Bs.As. (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 04:26 am
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86 DanyBerger (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 05:27 am Report abuse
Oh! poor “Captain Poppy” he is bipolar and forgot to take his medication.

Sad very sad
87 Idlehands (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 07:41 am Report abuse
We seem to be overrun with trolls that simply want to turn the forum into a name calling playground. Just ignore them. If you address them it just turns into the above - ie not worth reading.
88 golfcronie (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 09:07 am Report abuse
@84
Exactly the same as myself, I married one, lovely girl, had to go to Argentina to find her.
REFERENDUM in 26 DAYS, not long now to the eagerly awaited decision.
Next step take the decision to the UN to seal the deal. Well the BRITISH
89 agent999 (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 09:11 am Report abuse
87 Idlehands

We have all noticed that when TTT and Think run out of arguments the number of trolls increase.
90 golfcronie (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 09:46 am Report abuse
@89
We won the argument at last. I suppose if you keep repeating the facts, eventually it will sink in. I suppose that must be an Argie trait as practised by the Argie Goevernment, but they keep lying and lying. The world will know in 26 days what the FALKLANDERS think.
91 Captain Poppy (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 11:31 am Report abuse
It's like filler ingredients in food. There is the main stuff....then the shit. La campora takes blogging serious....probably the closest that they ever come to fighting.
92 Shed-time (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 12:05 pm Report abuse
Are they eating tree-bark soup with a slice of shoe yet? That's normally the outcome of fixing the price of your basket of goods in order to manipulate the CPI.

Is Maximo still eating cream buns?
93 agent999 (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 01:21 pm Report abuse
@92 Shed-time

He is to busy playing with his airline

worldairlinenews.com/2012/12/23/aerolineas-argentinas-to-post-its-largest-loss-in-2012/
94 redpoll (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 03:16 pm Report abuse
Wow Estimated losses at U$D2.7 million per day. Aerolineas hasnt presented a balance for four years so this may just be a wild guess anyway
95 golfcronie (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 04:55 pm Report abuse
I wonder where the money is going, any ideas?
96 redpoll (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 05:13 pm Report abuse
@95 Probabably a question of Maximising your losses?
97 Troy Tempest (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 05:28 pm Report abuse
@93,94,95

HEY TROLLS!!

THINK, TTT, DAME DOVER (Think II), DUNG BURGER, and assorted Dopplegangers,

Where is this money going???

All entrusted to Maximo!

Is he giving it to his mom ????

This wouldn't happen in a 'real' Democratic country, with a 'real' Government that serves the people responsibly. Right?

What kind of Government does CFK run??

She can't blame her Ministers, this is her son, pocketing the money!!!
98 golfcronie (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 06:15 pm Report abuse
Many years ago I flew by AEROLINEAS and AUSTRAL and I know which was better. AUSTRAL anytime. The problem is trying to turn a company around and most Argentinians that I know would fly any airline but AEROLINEAS. You need bums on seats.Mind you if the money earmarked is not invested then you have no hope.
99 Captain Poppy (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 09:09 pm Report abuse
Lan is the airlines of choice by most in Argentina. Aerolineas is considered the la capmora airways.
100 Troy Tempest (#) Feb 12th, 2013 - 10:45 pm Report abuse
Trolls quiet now.

Sleeping during the day.

Will come out at night with the other “creepy-crawleys”!
101 Captain Poppy (#) Feb 13th, 2013 - 12:58 am Report abuse
The electricity remaining on has been a real challenge in rgentina......heat. Chances are they are without juice at the moment. Saw it all over when I was there. Finally happened in my wifes family area, but only for a few hours. They were near the courts.
Either that or they are rehearsing their new scripts that Maximo wrote. I can't believe sussie is back. I thought for sure they off'ed her for being ineffectual.
102 golfcronie (#) Feb 13th, 2013 - 01:09 am Report abuse
@101
Can't wait
LOL
103 reality check (#) Feb 13th, 2013 - 07:54 am Report abuse
Cap
Nah mate, I think she just got out of rehab!
104 golfcronie (#) Feb 13th, 2013 - 09:02 am Report abuse
Is the flagship of AEROLINEAS still that SOPWITH CAMEL that I used to love?
105 Captain Poppy (#) Feb 13th, 2013 - 11:07 am Report abuse
She's like a leech. You can pull them off you.....try stomping on one...they never seem to squish.
106 golfcronie (#) Feb 13th, 2013 - 06:36 pm Report abuse
@105
When do trolls arrive? I'm bored at the moment
107 Captain Poppy (#) Feb 13th, 2013 - 09:27 pm Report abuse
Juice will be on soon, it's been going out big time in the city of Buenos Aires business district to provide electricty elsewhere. They are running out of the ability to keep the power plants operating at 100% for lack of oil.
108 golfcronie (#) Feb 13th, 2013 - 11:37 pm Report abuse
@107
The FALKLANDS will sell them oil, I would suggest Brent Crude + 100% sounds fair to me . They would have to collect.
109 Captain Poppy (#) Feb 14th, 2013 - 12:14 am Report abuse
and COD in dollars or Euros
110 golfcronie (#) Feb 14th, 2013 - 01:23 am Report abuse
@109
Oil is dealt on the money markets in U$S, there would have to be some sort of escrow account, wouldn't want them to default, ( they would't do that would they?)
Not known for the Argies to default,at least not this year,yet
111 Malvinero1 (#) Feb 16th, 2013 - 04:18 pm Report abuse
UK expects Uruguay to respect the Falklands’ referendum, which is a three sided event
AHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH who care about the brits pirates! MALVINAS ARGENTINAS!

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