Saturday, March 23rd 2013 - 10:51 UTC

Falkland Islands becomes an issue of controversy for Argentina’s federal tax revenue office

Argentina’s federal tax revenue office, AFIP said that trips to the Malvinas Islands, as well as expenses are included in the new 20% levy imposed on credit and debit card purchases in foreign countries, despite the fact the Falklands are considered Argentine territory, because of geopolitical reasons.

Opposition lawmakers called for AFIP head Echegaray resignation’s saying he is ‘either stupid or a traitor’

AFIP was strongly criticized by Argentine opposition sectors for treating the Malvinas as a foreign territory from a fiscal point of view particularly the 20% levy on foreign travel and expenses.

The issue surfaced in the Buenos Aires media following the recent referendum in the Falklands which received ample coverage from the Argentine media that travelled to the Islands.

AFIP head Ricardo Echegaray ratified the decision supported by a release from the agency stating that it can not “oblige lenders installed in the Malvinas Islands to carry out their operations in Pesos” and that the use of Argentina’s currency in the disputed territories will be accomplished “once the UK abides by the United Nations resolutions and, in a peaceful way, acknowledges the sovereignty” of Argentina “over the Malvinas Islands.”

According to AFIP, “geopolitical matters” are not controlled by the organism run by Echegaray and must be settled by “international law”, responding also to media versions that flared up the controversy over Echegaray’s statements that new AFIP resolutions span trips and purchases to the Falkland Islands.

Opposition leaders actually questioned the official with Radical Party for the province of Jujuy Miguel Giubergia calling on his resignation.

“Echegaray must leave the AFIP today for stupid or traitor,” Giubergia said and added that the head of the tax agency “admitted” that “the Malvinas Islands are not Argentinean for the AFIP, regardless of all the diplomatic efforts” carried out by Argentina over the past years.

And raising even more the tone of his criticism, the opposition MP accused Echegaray of “recognizing the British sovereignty over Malvinas”.
 

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1 malicious bloke (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 10:58 am Report abuse
Funny.

I think what should follow next is AFIP sending a demand to the FIG that they immediately begin carrying out all their financial transactions in pesos.

That should cause a few giggles.
2 Monty69 (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 11:12 am Report abuse
This is hilarious.
All the poor man has said is that from a tax point of view, the Falklands have a different system and a different currency, which is unarguable. And the pathetic brainwashed fools are calling him a traitor.
This is what you get if you keep on training children from an early age to parrot 'the Falklands are Argentinas'. A percentage of them will believe they live in a parallel universe in which this is actually true.
3 CaptainSilver (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 11:27 am Report abuse
Reminds one of the politics of Trumpton! Hahahahaha......

Hey Mr Fawlty, I lost my hrat! Que?
4 LEPRecon (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 11:28 am Report abuse
Well, I think we can take this as read that an official body of the Argentine government accepts that the Falklands aren't Argentine.

It reminds me a little of Miracle on 34th Street (original), when the court ruled that Kris Kringle was Santa Claus because the US Post Office offically recognised him as such.

We should take this immediatley to the ICJ and watch Argentina squirm. Then again they wouldn't turn up as they know that they would be laughed out of court.
5 WestisBest (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 11:38 am Report abuse
An Argentine official talks realistically about a practical issue and he's accused of being 'stupid or a traitor'....

You couldn't make this stuff up. If it's stupidity you Malvinista's are looking for you need to take a look in a mirror.
6 Beef (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 11:45 am Report abuse
Can any Argie tell where and when the UN requires the UK to “in a peaceful way, acknowledge the sovereignty” of Argentina “over the Malvinas Islands”?

If your political verbal ejaculations are not simply for domestic consumption then please direct me to a UN resolution that requires the UK to recognise Argentine sovereignty.
7 Escoses Doido (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 12:08 pm Report abuse
Priceless, this one. PML!!!
8 yankeeboy (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 12:10 pm Report abuse
This thug makes over 1.2MM pesos a year.

30X more than a teacher

What a f'ed up country
9 Britworker (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 12:22 pm Report abuse
I truly wonder how much mental illness there must be in Argentine politics, accusing someone of being a traitor because he had momentary lapse into lucidity. You have got to feel sorry for their people, they are literally being governed by muppets.
10 bushpilot (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 12:23 pm Report abuse
“will be accomplished “once the UK abides by the United Nations resolutions and, in a peaceful way, acknowledges the sovereignty” of Argentina “over the Malvinas Islands.””

Oh, that's what “negotiate” & “peaceful resolution” means to them. (Give us the Falklands in a “peaceful” way)

I couldn't figure out what they actually wanted when using these terms and no one from that side would explain it to me.
11 toooldtodieyoung (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 12:27 pm Report abuse
“Falkland Islands becomes an issue of controversy for Argentina’s federal tax revenue office”

This is priceless!! When they are not flling out with the UK over the Falklands, they are falling out with themselves over the Falklands!!!

This lot are seriously, SERIOUSLY f'ed up...........
12 falklandlad (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 12:33 pm Report abuse
No change here in 16 years... that's how the AFIP treated Argentine commercial folks when considering opportunities for Argentine involvment in Falklands offshore drilling in 1998 - it became much cheaper for the oil operators to purchase drill casings and pipe from Mexico and ship it in from there, when Argentina gave notice it would levy IVA (VAT) - the operators enjoyed cost savings by purchasing and shipping in from Mexico!
13 RICO (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 12:55 pm Report abuse
Firstly the exchange controls Argentina are developing are just storing up a huge problem for the further and damaging Argentinians now.

But if you are going to have them why leave a massive hole allowing the FI to profit hugely by being the only way Argentinians can access the international forex markets.

The the thought police fly in and call him a traitor. Do they not realise if he hasn't done what he did it would lead to a huge financial advantage for the Falkland Islanders. Argentina would be buying everything they wanted to import via the Islands.

It just shows that Argentinian politicians are morons as well as insane.
14 Anglotino (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 02:10 pm Report abuse
These people are ACTUALLY running a country!
15 John Troll the 3rd (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 02:23 pm Report abuse
Argentines just do this because they want to eliminate all possibility of friendly relations with baleful nations, such as the UK. They desire to keep them as a far away as possible. As well as others in Europe and North America.

Why be upset at their wishes? They do not like you, they must have their reasons. I will troll for them and for you.
16 commonsparrow (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 02:29 pm Report abuse
new 20% levy imposed on credit and debit card purchases in foreign countries,
Wow, that is a HEAVY!!!!!!!!!!! Why so mean????????????
17 Anglotino (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 02:29 pm Report abuse
That's not true Nostrils. These actions don't make us unfriendly.

That just destroy your economy.
PS: Why won't you reply to me on the other thread? You put so much effort into your initial post:
en.mercopress.com/2013/03/20/before-his-coronation-mass-francis-talked-to-the-catholics-gathered-in-plaza-de-mayo

Considering I am chasing you all over looking for a reply then it is I and not you that “will troll for you”.

OWNED!
18 John Troll the 3rd (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 02:35 pm Report abuse
My child,

Your response did not merit a reply. It was not an admission of guilt of being confronted with the facts... and the only reason I posted such was to remind you that your homilectic posture in these forums of judging Argentina's history is indeed undue and arrogated.

Should I remind you of John 4:1-25,26-27?
19 Idlehands (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 02:38 pm Report abuse
RICO has made the most pertinent comment in post 13. Falklanders should pray that CFK forces the tax authorities to treat the islands as part of mainland Argentina. It would be a bonanza on a massive scale. “Las Malvinas son Argentinas” - but money talks louder.
20 John Troll the 3rd (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 02:40 pm Report abuse
@19

My child, no one in Argentina is interested in putting money in the discredited UK economic/banking systems. In fact, who in the world even does? No, everyone goes to other countries to park their money.
21 agent999 (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 02:43 pm Report abuse
@20 troll

My child, no one in the World is interested in putting money in the discredited Argentinian economic/banking systems. In fact, who in the world even does? No, everyone goes to other countries to park their money
22 John Troll the 3rd (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 02:46 pm Report abuse
@21

The difference is my child we haven't built our entire economy (or sense of national pride) around the banking lobby of a minuscule sector of your capital city. A 'city' now completely discredited and in fact ostracized by almost the entire world's GDP, and to be further eschewed with new legislations worldwide on banks, CEO pay, transfers, and global finance reforms that will render it de facto shunned and useless.
23 Simon68 (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 03:00 pm Report abuse
Dear All,

Please forgive me, I've wanted to do this ever since I found MercoPress.

Etchegaray cipayo, traidor, vendepatria, gorila, HDP!!!!!!!!

There that's better, nothing like letting it all out at a kirchnerista to calm the soul!!!!!!!
24 agent999 (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 03:02 pm Report abuse
@2 troll
What a load of rubbish you you make up!
25 darragh (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 03:33 pm Report abuse
#20

Which presumably is why according to the Global Financial Centres Index London is Number 1 and Buenos Aires is 65.

Even Dublin is higher than BA
26 John Troll the 3rd (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 03:36 pm Report abuse
@25

Argentines do not want to be part of that system. What does it take for you my children to accept that? Open your hearts, argentines find your system repugnant.

You as a people worship “rankings”, and live and die by them, it is quite quite distressing my child and an indeed a very empty life.
27 Xect (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 03:38 pm Report abuse
I see Argentina is busy shooting itself in the foot with a shotgun for the hundredth time!

Not just with the silliness of complaining about a country it doesn't and has never owned but another economic policy that is going to cause severe problems. Really can they not just hire some foreigners that actually understand economic matters?
28 Conqueror (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 03:57 pm Report abuse
@15,18,20,22,26 I have to explain something to you. I know you won't believe me but at least I will have done the honourable thing and informed you. In your “country”, much of the “food” is contaminated by glyphosate herbicides and by rBGH (recombinant bovine growth hormone). Even in trace amounts, these substances produce disorders. Some disorders are physical, e.g. deformities, and some disorders are mental. It has to be borne in mind that the supplier, Monsanto, is into genetics. The effects are cumulative. And are passed on through heredity. Notably, argieland has more psychiatrists per person than any other state in the world. In 2011, argieland began the process of closing down its psychiatric hospitals and releasing mentally-ill people into society. These days, the mentally-ill are left free. Even those with delusions. Until confinement is the only available option. It will get worse over the years. You can expect to see such things as outbreaks of mindless violence, anti-social behaviour, criminality, listlessness. Anything that involves effort or distinguishing between right and wrong will be lost in those affected.
29 Viva Las Falklands (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 04:46 pm Report abuse
No invasion by the impotent Argie Army but looks like it will be their Tax Ofgice special forces pen pushers.
30 Clyde15 (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 04:54 pm Report abuse
#28
The symptoms are already prevalent among the political classes in B.A.
31 John Troll the 3rd (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 05:12 pm Report abuse
@28

Interesting.

With that description in mind... Has Monsanto then been delivering seeds to the Island of Great Britain for 400 years now, my child?
32 CaptainSilver (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 05:40 pm Report abuse
#31 What caused your dementia, was it Rgland or being exiled to Canada?
33 John Troll the 3rd (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 05:50 pm Report abuse
My child, why can you not limit yourself to bragging about the conquest of the Falklands in 16____, and confine yourself to it. Why do you wish to impose your way of thinking on others? Argentines vomit it the sight of being like Europe, or the USA, with its immoral economic system and twisted moral values of self-determination for some but not for others.

No one is perfect my child. Argentines may not be perfect economic sheep , just as you are not not moral guardians of anything whatsoever.

I will troll for you.
34 agent999 (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 06:28 pm Report abuse
@33
poor little troll, still nothing of any substance in your postings!
35 Ayayay (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 06:51 pm Report abuse
Does TTT know that the U.S. does not tax food for the poor? Does Argentina?
Many states don't tax groceries for EVERYONE.
36 agent999 (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 06:55 pm Report abuse
hey little troll

Another policeman to dies in a shooting in BA this week.

www.clarin.com/policiales/Asesinan-tiros-policia-asalto-conurbano_0_887911395.html
37 WestisBest (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 06:58 pm Report abuse
@26

“Argentines do not want to be part of that system. What does it take for you my children to accept that? Open your hearts, argentines find your system repugnant.”

Great! you won't be wanting any more money from 'that system' then will you?
Enjoy your imploding economy, Fool.
38 malicious bloke (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 07:55 pm Report abuse
“we find your system repugnant, so we invented a system where the rich and connected still rob the poor AND we get to bankrupt our whole country once a decade”.

Insomuch as Argentine ineptitude at managing their own affairs provides the rest of us with much entertainment, you go girl :D
39 CaptainSilver (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 08:01 pm Report abuse
Nostril, last time I was in Rgland no-one could wait to be just like Europeans. Down by the docks in BA the restaurants were all trying to be a new Canary Wharf, the dishes on the menu were a dead ringer for British restaurants. The shops contained all the latest European fashions, the flash cars were all European, Burbury was everywhere. Have you ever actually been to Argentina or have you only been to shitholes like Mendoza or Rosario?
Have you ever read Grimms Fairy Tales, do you realise what trolls look like. I think you are actually a sad little prick with no life and a big chip on your shoulder, no-one of the opposite sex in your life, and a billy no mates.... Sad!
40 John Troll the 3rd (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 08:08 pm Report abuse
@39

Why do so many English choose to live in shitholes like Tupungato, my Child?
41 briton (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 08:16 pm Report abuse
Cough cough..
and that the use of Argentina’s currency in the disputed territories will be accomplished “once the UK abides by the United Nations resolutions and, in a peaceful way, acknowledges the sovereignty” of Argentina “over the Malvinas Islands.”

Show us this exact resolution that categorically states,
Great Britain must recognise argentine sovereignty over the Falklands,

And does Falklands residence have argentine loans and mortgages,
As it implies,
////////////////
The opposition MP accused Echegaray of “recognizing the British sovereignty over the Falklands,
And what is wrong with that assumption,
Does it not then suggest that he is correct?
And Argentinean government is wrong..

.
42 WestisBest (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 08:33 pm Report abuse
@40

What's with all this 'my child' shit? you're not the bloody Pope are you?
43 Clyde15 (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 09:54 pm Report abuse
#43
He is going through one of his regular personality shifts. He obviously dislikes himself as he is, so he has to take on another personality at regular intervals. His next one may well be Atahualpa, Pissaro, Long John Silver or Minnie Mouse.
44 nigelpwsmith (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 09:59 pm Report abuse
This is hilarious.

A loyal member of Kretina's gang decides to tax any transactions in the Falklands as a foreign purchase - to raise tax & because they cannot force the Falklands to use Pesos and he is branded a traitor.

Does that mean they will brand Kretina a traitor for using a British jet every time she travels abroad?

Does that mean that Tinman is also a traitor for recognising at the UN that the Falkland Islands is under British control?

They must be, because if it is OK to call one idiot a traitor, then all other government staff must be idiots & traitors too.

You really cannot make this stuff up....

As I've mentioned many times before, the Argentines are under a mass delusion that the talks requested (not ordered) by the United Nations are only about how the sovereignty is to be handed over, when in fact these talks are merely to discuss the Islands and not to impose any specific solution, except that which suits the inhabitants.

As Ban Ki-moon mentioned in November, trying to politely point out to the Argies in no uncertain terms, that any peoples (such as the islanders) have the right to decide their own future. They've now exercised that right & they want to be British. Time for Argentina to wake up and realise that they cannot force any transfer in sovereignty & the more they act aggressively to the Islanders & Britain, the more they drive the Islanders to choose to remain with Britain.

Conqueror is right, Argentina suffers from serious psychological problems, the first and foremost of which is mass denial & delusion. We should be shipping in bulk quantities of Lithium Carbonate. Kretina's already taking hers...... or not!
45 Shed-time (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 11:12 pm Report abuse
“the use of Argentina’s currency in the disputed territories will be accomplished 'once the UK abides by the United Nations resolutions and, in a peaceful way, acknowledges the sovereignty' of Argentina 'over the Malvinas Islands.'”

Seriously, do argentinians really believe the sh!t that comes out of their mouths?
46 Lord Ton (#) Mar 23rd, 2013 - 11:57 pm Report abuse
falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2013/03/23/timerman-to-complain-to-the-un-again/

;-)
47 briton (#) Mar 24th, 2013 - 12:15 am Report abuse
aparently
CFK has ordered her lawyers to sue the british goverment for hurt feelings over the falklands,
500billion may be asked for,
helps to pay of her debts.lol.
48 brit abroad (#) Mar 24th, 2013 - 01:59 am Report abuse
RG governement = monkey tea time, every second of the day
49 MagnusMaster (#) Mar 24th, 2013 - 02:06 am Report abuse
@45 in this case, yes.
50 nigelpwsmith (#) Mar 24th, 2013 - 02:14 am Report abuse
Maybe she'll be found dead in the bath tomorrow?!
51 toxictaxitrader2 (#) Mar 24th, 2013 - 02:55 am Report abuse
The Argentina Constitution says the islands are part of Argentina,take it to the High Court,set up a Bureau de change in Port Stanley,make a fortune.
52 Celina Arraya (#) Mar 24th, 2013 - 03:47 am
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53 Troy Tempest (#) Mar 24th, 2013 - 05:53 am Report abuse
@52sussie

“in my town Phoenix Arizona USA there is a 2% food sale tax since 2010 in addition to the previous 9% beause of the continious weak economy!
The food prices in this state are as high as in Tokyo.”

Sorry, Sussie, I call BS on that!
Besides, you claim to be from Tempe AZ, or was it Vegas, last time you told us??

Non-food items face 'Sales Tax' of 8.3% and 2% goes to Pheonix.
Food items face a 2% tax which will be removed in 2014.

www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/02/03/20100203foodtax0203.html?nclick_check=1

“Food prices as high as Tokyo” - OMG, what bullshit!!!

“Sussie”, try buying your Spanish food at Costco. “Cheetos” and “Doritos” are cheap in the big bags.

Boludo.
54 Mendoza Canadian (#) Mar 24th, 2013 - 11:43 am Report abuse
I suggest a class action suit against the banks and the government. If you did not sign your cc statement with 20 per cent added at the time...well...thats robbery.
55 War Monkey (#) Mar 24th, 2013 - 12:37 pm Report abuse
@9 Britworker (#)
Mar 23rd, 2013 - 12:22 pm

Take a peek:

www.nytimes.com/2012/08/19/world/americas/do-argentines-need-therapy-pull-up-a-couch.html?pagewanted=all
56 Captain Poppy (#) Mar 24th, 2013 - 02:48 pm Report abuse
Is sussie capable of speaking without ever getting deported?
57 Troy Tempest (#) Mar 24th, 2013 - 05:36 pm Report abuse
@55 war monkey

Am I surprised? No.

Why do they go???

How much is melancholia, and how much is narcissism???

:-)

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