Thursday, April 18th 2013 - 22:11 UTC

Falklands’ referendum and self-determination receive support from US Congress

United States Congressman Mario Diaz-Balart released a statement after introducing a House Resolution recognizing the Falkland Islands referendum which was held March 10/11 with an overwhelming turnout and result.

US Congressman Mario Diaz-Balart introduced the resolution

UK Miami Consul General Kevin McGurgan, Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart, Falkland MLA Mike Summers and Falkland Islands journalist Teslyn Barkman (Photo UK and USA blogs)

“I commend the residents of the Falkland Islands for freely expressing their view on the political status of the Islands. As Americans, we have long cherished the principle of self-determination, and stand in solidarity with the Islanders in their choice to retain their status as a British Overseas Territory.

”The resolution I introduced along with my colleagues acknowledges that the referendum results are a clear expression of how the Islanders want to be governed, and urges that future dialogue over the Falkland Islands should include the views and wishes of the Falkland Islanders themselves.

“The small Islands’ community in the South Atlantic seeks to continue living peacefully and further expanding their economy. I urge my colleagues and the international community to respect the overwhelming results of the referendum and honour the right of self-determination for free people.”

Member of the Falkland Islands Legislative Assembly Mike Summers, accompanied by Penguin News journalist Teslyn Barkman, recently met with the congressman during a tour of the US and the Caribbean promoting the results of the recent referendum. Miss Barkman said, “Congressman Diaz-Balart was very sympathetic to the Falklands cause when we met with him in Miami in March.”

Congressmen Bordallo (D-GU), Campbell (R-CA), Faleomavaega (D-AS), Griffith (R-VA), Hall (R-TX), Higgins (D-NY), Holding (R-NC), Marchant (R-TX), McIntyre (D-NC), Petri (R-WI), Roskam (R-IL), Ros-Lehtinen (R-FL), Ryan (D-OH), and Sensenbrenner (R-WI) Poe (R-TX) joined as original co-sponsors.

Mario Diaz-Balart is currently fulfilling his sixth term in the US House of Representatives. At the beginning of the 112th Congress, congressman Diaz-Balart was asked to serve on one of the most prestigious committees: House Committee on Appropriations. As part of the House Committee on Appropriations, he sits on three of its subcommittees: Vice-Chair of Financial Services, State and Foreign Operations, and Military Construction, Veterans Affairs, and Related Agencies. (PN)

 

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1 screenname (#) Apr 18th, 2013 - 10:22 pm Report abuse
Three cheers for the congressmen.

Self determination, ain't it great!
2 andy65 (#) Apr 18th, 2013 - 10:41 pm Report abuse
Mario Diaz-Balart What a very Spanish sounding name also thank god he's not called John Smith
3 GFace (#) Apr 18th, 2013 - 11:07 pm Report abuse
And notice that there is a decent of Ds and Rs in the cosponsor list. This isn't a party roll call resolution or otherwise a move by the GOP to stick it in Obama's eyes (or to be more accurate, State's eye). Odd though that a certain cheesehead (R-WI) who has graced Mercopress news items is only co-sponsor. (This is also very new, the draft of the resolution doesn't yet have a number nor is it on “Thomas” yet)

mariodiaz-balart.house.gov/uploads/DIAZMA_007_xml.pdf
4 Porto Margaret (#) Apr 18th, 2013 - 11:50 pm Report abuse
I so hope that the US Congress demand that Pinocho de la Casa Rosada

“With all humbleness we request the Argentine government to recognize the Falkland Island referendum following free transparent vote” adding “it’s the best way to achieve and ensure peace”.

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“la falsificación de la historia en sí es un rasgo de la cultura nacional”.
5 Troy Tempest (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 12:02 am Report abuse
Well done, USA !!!
6 Devolverislas (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 12:15 am Report abuse
It is recommended that US Congressman Mario Diaz-Balart insert the following paragraphs into his draft resolution recognizing the Falkland Islands referendum:-

Whereas the disputed territory of the Falkland Islands/Malvinas is subject to General Assembly resolution 2065 (XX) Question of the Falkland Islands/Malvinas.

Whereas resolution 2065 (XX) defines the inhabitants of the Falkland Islands/Malvinas as a “population” and not a “people”.

Whereas article 1 (2) of the United Nations Charter reserves the right of self-determination for “peoples”.
7 Troy Tempest (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 12:26 am Report abuse
@6 Devolvedijit

“Resolution 2065... blah blah blah”

Oh, that old chestnut. *rolls eyes*

Sorry, too bad for you. Non-binding 'peaceful' resolution, and you guys blew it when you idiots launched a military invasion of said territory, imprisoning the 'people' and illegally occupying their homes, even when a BINDING UN Resolution ordered you out.

Certainly the USA recognises the population as a 'people'.
Perhaps more importantly, the UK recognises them as a distinct 'people' also.

:-)
8 GFace (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 12:55 am Report abuse
@6 Are those little-P peoples or the big-P Peoples that fascists like you adore who step on the little-p people like you did and proudly cheered on in 1982 in violation of *binding* UN SC Resolution 502.

You are right though, the House resolution is incomplete.

”This House also extends gratitude to the late and former British Prime Minister Margaret Thacher, who despite disagreement on her domestic policy by the undersigned, is fully recognized for her role in defeating the Galtieri Junta, enforcing UNSC 502, liberatng the peoples of the Falklands from genuine threat from the Galtieri Junta and most importantly paving way for a semblance of representative rule in Argentina -- even though at that point the Junta indeed had a public mandate by public aclaimation (as of 03 April 2013) from the masses for more torture, more kidnappings, more forced adoptions, and more people (about 1800 or so) to be thrown from airplanes because ANY price was worth paying in the eyes of the Argentines so long as the fascist boot was on the neck of the Islanders as well.“

And before some Fascist appologist tries it...

”This house also morns the loss of the former USS Phoenix in the same conflict who fought Fascism in WW2, but regrettably in 1982 was destroyed by UK forces while in the service of Fascism, in the ships's CO's own words was actively engaging in warfighting opeations with the express purpose to maintian the illegal occulation and continued threat to the lives and safety of the Falkland Islanders in violation of UNSC 502 and the Island people's fundemental human rights to liberty and self-determination -- which was made only possible in the aftermath of their liberation by the UK forces.”

Admittedly long sentences on my part, but those resolutons typically are a collection of run-on sentences that pay more mind to sentiment than best writing practices, and sometimes even grammar and sometimes embarassing spellcheck errors.
9 Hepatia (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 01:20 am Report abuse
What “future dialog” is the congressman referring to? Is he unaware that the UK has refused all dialog on the issue?
10 Captain Poppy (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 01:24 am Report abuse
Well the Congressman sit on the most important committee in the House. He carries a lot of weight and influence.
11 GFace (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 01:27 am Report abuse
@9 What a pathetic little liar you are, Hepatia. Timerman was offered an opportunity to dialog with all parties that mattered, Hague and two representatives of the FIG, they had a chair and I suspect some nice hors d'oeuvres (hey, free food, a photo op for a political hack and we all know how they crave validation, AND a chance to appear “rational” and diplomatic which for a foreign secretary should have spelled Win, Win Win!). It would have been a PR coup even if he just had said that the only place the Islanders belonged was under Argentina's fascist jackboot. But no. He ran like a coward escaping from reality -- because that's what he was and that's what he and you as a country are running away from.
12 britanico (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 01:31 am Report abuse
Diaz-Balart's aunt Mirta was married to Fidel Castro, but had the good sense to divorce him.
13 brit abroad (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 02:01 am Report abuse
Hepatia, Thats a lie! The UK has not refused all dialogue, it has in fact agreed to dialogue on the very simple (and i would consider intimidating) grounds that members of the Falklands are present and can join the dialogue!!!!!!!!

Why do you guys lie sooooo much??? Why are the RG's so frightened of chatting with a few Falklanders????

Really quite sad!
14 yaghan (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 02:33 am Report abuse
There is a conflict between nations. What is the nation you currently represent? Your community is the result of the removal of the previous population by force and its replacement by settlers sent from the UK. Or will you support that Capt. Onslow convinced Lt. Pinedo to leave by his logical arguments alone?
15 Troy Tempest (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 02:48 am Report abuse
@yaghan

1) Pinedo should never have been there, or the 'garrison' of murderers and rapists.

2) Not everyone left - even Reviero(sp.?) and several others with Spanish names, stayed, and were lived and died there, months and years later.

Your claims are a farce, as we have covered countless times on here, including names and histories.

You know that already, of course.

BTW, the Falklanders represent a people, the Falklanders.
16 brit abroad (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 05:30 am Report abuse
@14 Yaghan,

I think you should consider reading some history on the subject and not just the one sided tripe you get taught in RGland. Try reading several other historians views and then make a judgement based on cross references. Until then you should probably stick to watching footy.

You are as bad as hepatit, (oh BTW i made a typo in my previous post, it should have read: ”(and i wouldnt consider them intimidating) ”
17 Gordo1 (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 05:46 am Report abuse
@9 Hepatia. Again another myth! The UK has NOT REPEAT NOT “refused all dialogue on the issue”. The UK will talk with Argentina at any time as long as the islanders are included in the discussions.
18 Musky (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 07:06 am Report abuse
@9 Hepatia
Argentina refuses, CFK refuses, Timmerman refuses, Alicia Castro refuses. The islanders and Britain have been up front all the time, talks can be held. Argentina knows it will not gain sovereignty from talks, the last thing they want is talks as it will be a failure. It is not in the islanders interests to become part of a country so unfulfilled as Argentina and so contrary to British sentiment.
Thanks United States Congressman Mario Diaz-Balart, you get my vote!
19 Escoses Doido (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 07:38 am Report abuse
@14 yagan,
Ya tube, - Only 4 civilians left in 1833 (four)

The rest were encouraged to stay by Captain Onslow, which they did.

Pull thy head out of thine ar*se, and get the real history installed in said head.

You will be a better human being at the end of the day.
20 J.A. Roberts (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 07:42 am Report abuse
@ Hepatia. You have a very selective memory. Agreement over the Falklands dispute was reached between Argentina and the UK in October 1989 after “dialog” in Madrid. Your idiot President Nestor Kirchner tore that agreement up and threw it away. Your country cannot keep to agreements, that's your problem. Live with it!

@Yaghan
It obviously escaped your notice that the people on the Falklands in 1832 had British permission to be there, that when the illegal Liga Federal (so not Argentine, not even United Provinces) garrison left peacefully only 4 of those civilians went with them - the rest, approximately 30 people remained on the Falklands. Please stop trotting out 1930s myth and educate yourself with the facts.
21 Monkeymagic (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 08:16 am Report abuse
@14

Yaghan

You talk of the removal of the “previous population” by force in 1833.

I ask you the following questions

1) how many people left the islands with Pinedo on Jan 6th 1833?
2) when had all but four of them arrived?
3) who were they, what happened to their captain?
4) given 1-3, where these really the “previous population”?
5) the actual “civilians” on the islands in 1833, did they leave with Pinedo?
6) who was the leader of these civilians on the islands? What was his nationality?

When you can answer these questions...Look in your own “National Archives” you will find the “truth”.

1) 59
2) Three Months earlier
3) a paid militia (not civilians), who mutineed, murdered Mestevier and raped his wife
4) ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!
5) only four, who went to Montevideo
6) Matthew Brisbane, British.
22 LEPRecon (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 08:49 am Report abuse
If Congressman Diaz-Balart manages to get this resolution through Congress it will only be a matter of time before 'official' US policy will have to be altered to recognise this.

You see, my Argentine friends, Congress and the Senate are where the real power lies in the US, not with the President. He is the Chief Executive, but is still answerable to Congress and the Senate, and relies on their support to run the country. If the President loses that support then he might as well resign, as his tenure will be impotent.

It's also good to see that Congressman Diaz-Balart's resolution has cross party support, from both Democrats and Republicans. Now that will make the White House sit up and listen.
23 lsolde (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 09:08 am Report abuse
Many Thanks, USA.
At last someone has seen through Argentina's lies.
24 Britworker (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 09:19 am Report abuse
Well it's not before time, lets see if the two faced behaviour continues before we crack open the Champagne.
25 Conqueror (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 10:42 am Report abuse
@9 Advice: Bang head on wall until hole appears large enough to let this in. The UK refuses dialogue on the “issue” of sovereignty because there is no “issue”. Neither is there any “dispute” as that was “settled” in 1982. WHEN the ISLANDERS choose, they will have dialogue with whoever THEY choose. On THEIR terms.
@14 There is no conflict between “nations”. The UK is a nation. The Falkland Islands are well on their way to becoming a nation. Argieland is just a bunch of murdering, genocidal, corrupt war criminals.
26 British_Kirchnerist (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 12:33 pm Report abuse
Isn't he one of Cuban emigre Congressmen? This probably isn't about the Falklands for him, just part of an anti-Latin America grudge
27 gregorio (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 12:35 pm Report abuse
As an Argentine I agree. If we were governing the Falklands/Malvinas today, the islanders, whether of British stock or Argentine replacements, would be far worse off. Argentina is a cancer-stricken nation with today's youth sporting Che Guevara t-shirts, and the president until recently, hugging and kissing Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro. Many of the current political figures holding seats of power are former Montoneros and ERP communist guerrillas. Argentina needs to grow up and become a serious nation before being taken seriously, but alas Argentina is still a child and a 3rd World nation thanks to the anarchist and bolsheviks that emigrated in large numbers to Argentina in the late 1890s and early 1900s and their sons and grandchildren that took up arms against the state in the name of Che Guevara and Fidel Castro.
28 GFace (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 01:16 pm Report abuse
@26, what a load of crap. The Cuban-exile commuity while moslty (very) Republican leaning are also (very) Latino/a and lean towards trade and positive relations with LATAM. It's one of the reason white liberal college professors channel any anti-latino bigotries they may have into that demographic. While I'll lay beer money on the table to say that he is likely going to be anti-leftist/anti-“bolivarian”, the other signatories, a notably bi-partisan roll call are certaintly not a bunch of Tea-Partiers and “D.I.N.O.'s”, nor are they anti-Latino or racist. What they ARE responding to is a plebicide of a people who were brutally occupied by your favorite fascist neo-colonialists, and long-term frustration with a small clatch of pinheads at State who either still think that the Cold War is going on and we must still pander to Argentina or that we still have a working Montroe Doctrine.
29 yaghan (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 01:26 pm Report abuse
#25: Really, Conqueror? How considerate of you. You simply demonstrate the impossibility of reasoning with stupid people. May I ask you what is it that your nick implies? What is it that you have conquered, other than the logical side of your brain?
30 Conqueror (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 02:29 pm Report abuse
@26 What's the matter? No access to “research”? He was born in Fort Lauderdale.
@29 I agree with you. It's why I rarely try to reason with “latinos” in general and “argies” in particular. They don't have enough brain or “reason” to make it worth my while. For me, I have “conquered” a number of “latinos”, enabling them to spend numbers of years in locked “rooms”. As for my “nick”, it refers to probably the second-favourite vessel in the Royal Navy. HMS Conqueror. The vessel that, at 15:57 Falkland Islands Time on 2 May 1982, fired three 21 inch Mk 8 mod 4 torpedoes at something called the “Belgrano”. One torpedo struck 10 to 15 metres aft of the bow, blowing the ship's bow off. The second torpedo struck about three-quarters of the way along the ship, exploding in the aft machine-room. The third torpedo apparently struck one of the escorting destroyers, Hipolito Bouchard, but, regrettably, failed to detonate. Unfortunately, the maximum speed of the escorting destroyers exceeded that of HMS Conqueror. Clearly, they were running too fast for HMS Conqueror to catch up. Notably, HMS Conqueror returned to Faslane Naval Base, flying a Jolly Roger adorned with torpedoes, a customary act of Royal Navy submarines after a kill. A truly glorious name, you will agree.
31 GFace (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 02:36 pm Report abuse
@28... Sheesh (MONROE Doctrine...). I blame my legislative research council for my typos. Or maybe England.
32 yaghan (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 03:27 pm Report abuse
#30: For a ship already decomissioned, which also crashed and sunk a civilian (ergo unarmed) Yatch, the Dalriada, in July 1988. This might tell something about yourself, as well.

“Showing off is the fool's idea of glory” Bruce Lee
33 British_Kirchnerist (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 04:10 pm Report abuse
#28 If hes really in favour of trade and relations with Latin America, then he's making a big mistake to try and get the US to take a side, for the first time on this issue, against the continent!. I think the Cuban emigre right may have become more against the continent as a whole of late, the more leftist the majority of its governments become. Similar to how the British position has been taken up by the much of the Argentine right out of spite at Cristina, even though Galtieri was one of them!
34 Brit Bob (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 04:20 pm Report abuse
Thank you.
35 Devolverislas (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 04:33 pm Report abuse
re. US House of Representatives resolution recognizing Falkland Islands referendum, submitted by US Congressman Mario Diaz-Balart.

US Govtrack prognosis:- 4% chance of getting past committee

4% chance of being agreed to
36 saphira (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 04:37 pm Report abuse
@32 you are not quite right the Dalriada was in fact an Army Sail Training Association yacht
37 Pete Bog (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 04:53 pm Report abuse
@9
“Is he unaware that the UK has refused all dialog on the issue?”

The UK has not refused dialogue with Argentina.

In fact as Argentina do not recognise Islanders as being from the Islands and part of Britain, I don't understand the problem of Islanders being present in talks if the Argentines recognise them as from the UK and not Falkland Islanders?

Argentina could only logically object to the Islanders being a 'third' party if they accepted them as Falkland Islanders.

But then, Argentinian governments cannot make their mind up on anything, hence they cannot even secure reliable energy supplies for their country.
38 Simon68 (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 05:16 pm Report abuse
33 British_Kirchnerist (#)
Apr 19th, 2013 - 04:10 pm

The Argentine right wing is represented by the kirchnerite rabble. Where on earth did you get the idea that the Santa Cruzeña oligarch was left wing???????
39 Captain Poppy (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 05:50 pm Report abuse
#33

If my memory serves me correctly, Dilma is coming to the USA in October on an official trade mission. I would say SA is looking for better trade.....argentina needs the lemons and beef in the USA.
40 HansNiesund (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 07:10 pm Report abuse
@35
Has anyone tabled a Congressional resolution rejecting self-determination yet? What would the prognosis for that be?
41 briton (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 07:43 pm Report abuse
receive support from US Congress

about time too,

but we all know what happens to little acorns,

and the support will grow,

perhaps when this obarmy obarma is replaced with a real American president,
all will be ok again.

then CFK will have even bigger problems.

justa thought.
42 ChrisR (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 08:55 pm Report abuse
The “problem” is not Congress; it is the incumbent in the White House.

And as the burial service for Baroness Thatcher was ‘private’ and subject to approval by the family as to who was to be invited, do you think the President would make the cut? Not on your Nellie!
43 British_Kirchnerist (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 09:29 pm Report abuse
#41 “perhaps when this obarmy obarma is replaced with a real American president,
all will be ok again”

Like itwas during the Bush administration, that golden age?! And what do you mean a “real” American, a white American I suppose?
44 Captain Poppy (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 10:34 pm Report abuse
People tend to use the REAL when they do not like something. I would assume briton was not referring to race as he was referring to a president that is not so much a socialist and remembers their historical alliances with their brother free countries. We Americans don't assume everyone makes statements about Obama is race based, why would you when you're not even an American?
45 briton (#) Apr 19th, 2013 - 11:42 pm Report abuse
43 as a suposed brit, you would know what i meant,
mr poppy was correct,

i dont like obama, i dont like camaron i dont like cleggy and i dont like the labour leader,
3 whites one black, colour is totaly irrelivent.

its the mans abilty nothing else..
46 Musky (#) Apr 20th, 2013 - 06:24 am Report abuse
The best future US president must surely be Morgan Freeman! :-)
47 British_Kirchnerist (#) Apr 20th, 2013 - 10:59 am Report abuse
#46 Funny, I was just thinking the other day how he could have been a great left version of Reagan =)
48 aussie sunshine (#) Apr 20th, 2013 - 06:19 pm Report abuse
23 A FEW congressmen is NOT THE USA!!
49 briton (#) Apr 20th, 2013 - 06:59 pm Report abuse
It only takes one man to stand up--
others will surley follow.
50 ChrisR (#) Apr 21st, 2013 - 03:55 pm Report abuse
48 aussie raincloud

Crawled from under the dunny again I see.

Oh well, never mind.
51 Troy Tempest (#) Apr 22nd, 2013 - 04:52 am Report abuse
@48 ASS

ahh, CFK's noble lumpkin is back!!!
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53 Brazilian (#) Apr 22nd, 2013 - 04:39 pm Report abuse
The house of Saud recieves support from US congress. I don't think that gives anyone legitimacy.
54 Troy Tempest (#) Apr 22nd, 2013 - 04:48 pm Report abuse
@53“Brazilian”

The house of Kirchner recieves support from Venezuela. I don't think that gives anyone legitimacy.
55 briton (#) Apr 22nd, 2013 - 05:48 pm Report abuse
@53“Brazilian

The house of Kirchner recieves support from cuba . I don't think that gives anyone legitimacy
56 Troy Tempest (#) Apr 22nd, 2013 - 08:16 pm Report abuse
@brazilian

The House of Kirchner received support from Iran, I don't think that gives you legitimacy either!
57 British_Kirchnerist (#) Apr 23rd, 2013 - 12:06 am Report abuse
The “House of Kirchner” has not renamed its country after the family, is not the only “house” from which a head of state may come, allows women to drive, does not chop off heads or hands, never funded al-Qaeda and the Taliban, I could go on and but I think we can all agree its better than the US backed House of Saud...
58 Hepatia (#) Apr 23rd, 2013 - 03:27 am Report abuse
en.mercopress.com/2013/04/18/falklands-referendum-and-self-determination-receive-support-from-us-congress#comment239949: Regardless of the congressman's origin and political point of view Congressman Mario Diaz-Balart is an American and a member of the US Congress!
59 lsolde (#) Apr 23rd, 2013 - 11:26 am Report abuse
@58 Hepatia,
So much the better.
USA has more influence than Argentina.
USA is more stable than Argentina.
At last people are beginning to see through Argentina's lies.
60 Hepatia (#) Apr 23rd, 2013 - 03:56 pm Report abuse
en.mercopress.com/2013/04/18/falklands-referendum-and-self-determination-receive-support-from-us-congress#comment241083: It is a resolution, which is yet to pass. It will make no difference.
61 British_Kirchnerist (#) Apr 23rd, 2013 - 05:00 pm Report abuse
#59 You forgot to add “US has killed more people than Argentina”. Way more in fact! But unlike some on this blog I don't hold individuals responsible for every action of their government or past governments, so I'm not against AMericans as people...
62 briton (#) Apr 23rd, 2013 - 06:10 pm Report abuse
You forgot to add “US has killed more people than Argentina”. Way more in fact!
can we have details of this please,
1, how many has the US killed
2, how many has argentina killed.

thanks
friday will do..
63 Captain Poppy (#) Apr 23rd, 2013 - 06:58 pm Report abuse
The USA kills it's enemy without prejudice. Unlike Argentina that can only cry and whine to it's enemy. If fact it will not call anyone an enemy for fear they may kick their ass and Rg. And also the USA has helped more....way more tha Argentina.
64 lsolde (#) Apr 23rd, 2013 - 08:17 pm Report abuse
@61B_K,
The mudslinging re who killed who & who did what to whoever has already been done to death on other threads.
Why bring it up here?
The article is about the beginning of the US acceptance of our right to exist & at last, the recognition of Argentina's lies.
Muddying the waters will not advance Argentina's ridiculous“claims”one iota.
The reason to bring up Argentina's past crimes is to show the malvinistas that their country too, has a dark past.
They seem to think that they are pure & noble while the rest of us are genocidal maniacs.
malvinistas- a deluded bunch of losers.
65 briton (#) Apr 23rd, 2013 - 08:33 pm Report abuse
But unlike some on this blog I don't hold individuals responsible for every action of their government or past governments,

so thats ok then,
untill the next time you do it..lol.
66 British_Kirchnerist (#) Apr 23rd, 2013 - 11:12 pm Report abuse
When have I ever done it though?!
67 John III (Pope) (#) Apr 24th, 2013 - 07:26 am Report abuse
@50
That's right - you put your colonial subjects in their place!
68 briton (#) Apr 24th, 2013 - 06:30 pm Report abuse
all the time.
69 Captain Poppy (#) Apr 24th, 2013 - 09:27 pm Report abuse
briton he calls me it all the time so now I feed him it own shit he loves to hear so he can say.....“I knew it, he's American, they're all killers”
70 Troy Tempest (#) Apr 24th, 2013 - 10:36 pm Report abuse
@67 john the turd

“That's right - you put your colonial subjects in their place!”

Oh, you ARE a clever, witty, little bugger, aren't you!???

Golly!! Best not to tangle with YOUR massive intellect!!

:-D
71 briton (#) Apr 24th, 2013 - 11:58 pm Report abuse
69
agreed,
sometimes he forgets what he says,
untill someone reminds him.
lol.
72 British_Kirchnerist (#) Apr 25th, 2013 - 01:11 pm Report abuse
#69 Nonsense. I was genuinely shocked and dissapointed at your genocidal ravings on Arabs and the middle east, and I am determined to keep giving you the opportunity to withdraw them...
73 Brazilian (#) Apr 25th, 2013 - 02:55 pm Report abuse
# 54-55-56 - Yep, after countless US interventions and US-backed military coups, Venezuela, Cuba and Iran have more legitimacy here in South America than the US congress that still thinks South America is it's backyard. The Kirchners are not more of a “house” than the Bush family in the US, of which Jeb Bush is likely to run to be the republican candidate in the next US presidential elections. Sounds like you half twits don't understand the difference between a democracy and an absolutist monarchy.
74 Captain Poppy (#) Apr 25th, 2013 - 03:39 pm Report abuse
When you walk amoung them, ask me again.

#73 reads like you have no clue what the republcans are doing. They are in shambles and can't find any candidates. But your extreme left papers need to print something. And I would not rate SA as well as the USA backyard. What the Brits and myself and yankee explain the difference in a monachy and democrary to you? Being you self admittedly do not know?
The husband is president then the wife......and the plan was to go on and on like that, but the devil needed nasty nestor more and ruined the plans. I would call 16 years of kirchners and seeking to make it 20 years a house of kirchner.
75 briton (#) Apr 25th, 2013 - 06:20 pm Report abuse
don't understand the difference between a democracy and an absolutist monarchy.

and of course,,you do.
76 British_Kirchnerist (#) Apr 26th, 2013 - 12:10 am Report abuse
More democratic to have two politicians who are husband and wife (which might mean they have similar politics y'know, so if you like one why not the other!), than to elect the imbecile son of a previous president. Especially when the imbecile wins with less votes than the guy he beats!
77 Captain Poppy (#) Apr 26th, 2013 - 10:36 am Report abuse
of course the man who's never been to argentina runs to the rescue. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA......gotta love it, it's comical
78 briton (#) Apr 26th, 2013 - 05:58 pm Report abuse
76 British_Kirchnerist
than to elect the imbecile son of a previous president

so BK we take it we fully have your 100% backing that
the imbecile son of a previous president
CFK will not get every elected,
and you agree that it should not happen,

we will confer your evidence when it happens..
79 British_Kirchnerist (#) Apr 26th, 2013 - 08:01 pm Report abuse
As far as I know Cristina doesn't have an imbecile son =) But no serious analysts see Maximo as a serious prospect for the Presidency any time soon. My own first choice would be Cristina, after her Timmerman, but then its not my decision - maybe one day I'll get to vote for a President though, of Bitain =)
80 Captain Poppy (#) Apr 26th, 2013 - 08:43 pm Report abuse
Fatsimo the fat fucking kirchner is a druggie with a sexual affliction for the youth of Argentina, not to forget his obesity problem. I seriously doubt that he was an imbicile, or even an idiot, but definitely a moron....rating of 51 to 70.
81 briton (#) Apr 27th, 2013 - 07:17 pm Report abuse
79 British_Kirchnerist
So you long for the day you can vote in a president,
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Well you may not know but your wish may well come true,
Yep true.
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But you won’t be voting for a British president,
As that will never ever happen,
But a European president is a certainty,
Sadly you may not want what you would like to vote for,
mmm
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82 Captain Poppy (#) Apr 27th, 2013 - 09:25 pm Report abuse
Do you mean like a EU president? Damn, I think the countries of Europe ar so diverse and different. Seems like a force fit.
83 ChrisR (#) Apr 27th, 2013 - 10:07 pm Report abuse
81 briton

I suspect that he might be voting for a president much nearer to home if the vote goes to them leaving the Union: the President of Scotland, old salmon chops himself.

LOLs

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