Saturday, May 11th 2013 - 03:25 UTC

“Malvinas Argentinas” and “One China” policies ratified by Beijing and Buenos Aires

Visiting Chinese Vice-president Li Yuanchao expressed on Friday “full support for Argentina’s sovereign claims over the Malvinas Islands” while his Argentine peer, Amado Boudou matched his words ratifying the ‘one China’ policy.

Vice-presidents Boudou and Li exchanged smiles and supports

The Chinese top official, on his first overseas visit since the new administration of President Xi Jinping was inaugurated this year in Beijing, was received by President Cristina Fernandez, and later visited the Argentine Congress before heading for the Palacio San Martin, seat of the Foreign ministry to sign a raft on agreements that make to the ‘strategic association’ of China with Argentina.

Foreign minister Hector Timerman and the head of the Lower House Julian Dominguez, who has been to China several times both as a lawmaker and former Agriculture minister, were also present at the event.

“The commitment of the relation with China that covers economic, financial, productive and international affairs will continue to strengthen with time” said Boudou in his speech before thanking the visiting Vice-president Li for Beijing’s ongoing support for “Argentine sovereignty over the Malvinas Islands”.

“We have always been clear about the concept of a ‘one China’; we have always been next to you in support of ‘one China’; this has been so during the more than four decades of full bilateral relations”, said Boudou.

On his turn Li said that “China renews its support for Argentine sovereignty claims over the Malvinas Islands and is grateful for Argentina’s stance on the ‘one China’ principle, and the question of Taiwan and Tibet”.

Boudou underlined the strength with which both countries have been working in multilateral organizations and G20 to advance with the new world financial and economic architecture “with greater emphasis on the real economy and life quality of the peoples instead of concentrating only in the financial system as has been happening so far”.

Following the speeches several cooperation agreements were signed including technical assistance at university level with Chinese corporations and others referred to trade and investments. China is the second most important trade partner of Argentina, behind Brazil.

From Argentina, the Chinese delegation flies to Venezuela for another round of talks on trade, energy, defence and finance.
 

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1 Frank (#) May 11th, 2013 - 04:12 am Report abuse
SFA about the mythical malvinas in the chinese press release www.china.org.cn/world/2013-05/11/content_28793251.htm?

Booboo and the mad bitch telling porkies again methinks.....
2 El capitano (#) May 11th, 2013 - 04:33 am Report abuse
“Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz”....ohh did I miss some thing?...Ohh right, right Argentina supports China etc etc....ahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ROFLMAO..!
3 Think (#) May 11th, 2013 - 05:14 am Report abuse
TWIMC

Yet another nail in the English Diplomatic Coffin in the South-Atlantic....

Poms go home!
4 Marcos Alejandro (#) May 11th, 2013 - 05:27 am Report abuse
“full support for Argentina’s sovereign claims over the Malvinas Islands”

謝謝 shie shie (thank you) China.
5 reality check (#) May 11th, 2013 - 05:42 am Report abuse
Dah dah!!!!!

and here it is.

No surprises there then.
6 inthegutter (#) May 11th, 2013 - 06:28 am Report abuse
Oh Maros and Think, it must be such a horrible feeling to know you're never going to get what you want. There is no scenario, other than with the support of the islanders, that you're going to get the Falklands.
7 Chicureo (#) May 11th, 2013 - 06:31 am Report abuse
China is
8 reality check (#) May 11th, 2013 - 06:36 am Report abuse
Typo?
9 Escoses Doido (#) May 11th, 2013 - 07:06 am Report abuse
@2;
Aye, aye Captain, - How old are ye noo?
And yet here ye are posting on Mercopress?
10 Xect (#) May 11th, 2013 - 07:15 am Report abuse
Heh @ Stinks 'Another nail in the English diplomatic coffin'

Yes Think because China always supports Western countries.... Doh!

China doesn't care and the UK doesn't care what China thinks, nothing changes and nobody cares.
11 reality check (#) May 11th, 2013 - 07:27 am Report abuse
@3/4

You want to impress us?

Get the Dalai Lama to support your land grab.

Now that would be ferkin impressive!!!!
12 mastershakejb (#) May 11th, 2013 - 07:46 am Report abuse
@3/4
To add to #11
You want to impress us? Grab the land instead of talking about it for decade after decade.....oh wait, you tried that, and failed, lol, weaklings.
Argentina reminds me of Jamaica/African “Americans”: talk about peace all day/every day.....have the highest homicide rate in the world/be the most homicidal race.
13 Boovis (#) May 11th, 2013 - 07:49 am Report abuse
What's Argentina's view on Tibet?
14 reality check (#) May 11th, 2013 - 08:02 am Report abuse
It was usurped by the British Empire from the Chinese and a population of Gurkha mercenaries were implanted there. That is why they do not have the right to self determination, because they do not exist as defined by the numerous binding UN resolutions, a people. A view supported by the Ecuadorian head of the C24. Tibet is part of the Chinese motherland. Li Yuancho stated a petition of 100 Billion people was being collected to be presented at the UN to prove it.
15 Monkeymagic (#) May 11th, 2013 - 08:03 am Report abuse
@13

Argentinas view on Tibet, Taiwan, Paracel, Shikoku, Spratley Islands are that they are part of Chinese Territory.

Unless they are talking to Japan, when Shikoku is clearly Japanese, or they are talking to Vietnam, when the Paracel Islands are Vietnamese, or the Philipines when the Spratleys are clearly Philipino.

Generally, in Argentina, Tibet is always Chinese as the Tibetans can offer them nothing, and Taiwan is part of China for the same reason.

However, this article is interesting. When are China going to “do anything” to support Argentina...or is like the Brazilian or Uruguaian support, where they say it and then act the opposite?

Will China be offering military support?
Will China be putting in place trade sanctions?
Will China be joining fat Toni outside the Lan offices?

Or will they be doing fuck all, and the islands remain with their rightful owners the islanders ad infinitum?

My guess is the latter...but I bet Argentina has been raped for the “vocal support” and the dollar reserves are down again as Mr Li flies home with a briefcase full!!

LOL.
16 Musky (#) May 11th, 2013 - 08:07 am Report abuse
Tiawan will be very pleased with Argentina.
Hong Kong with its democratic LEGCO will be very pleased with Argentina.
The Dali Lama must be very happy with Argentina.

Not. Not. Not!

Argentina again shows its contempt for self determination and freedom of expression.
17 HansNiesund (#) May 11th, 2013 - 08:18 am Report abuse
It seems rather obvious that China isn't supporting Argentina because they are upset that Argentina's murderers and rapists were sent home two centuries ago, but rather because they themselves are terrified of the principle of self-determination, given that they occupy or covet vast swathes of territory against the wishes of the inhabitants.
18 Redrow (#) May 11th, 2013 - 08:51 am Report abuse
Whatever one's view on Tibet, the PRC have administered it continuously for over 60 years and despite UN resolutions they are not going to leave and will not face being ostracised internationally to any practical extent for being there.

In contrast, Argentina don't occupy the Falklands and have only ever administered the Islands for two 2-month periods in history, neither of which went well and on both occasions they were quickly removed. On the latter occasion a binding UN resolution told them to leave.

It's tricky to see where the comparison lies.
19 lsolde (#) May 11th, 2013 - 08:59 am Report abuse
lf Argentina ever accepts a military alliance with China, or allows them to site a base in Argentina, then it will be goodbye, Argentina.
l don't think the rest of South America would be happy either.
But if you sleep with the Tiger, you're sure to get BIG love bites.! lol!
20 reality check (#) May 11th, 2013 - 09:14 am Report abuse
Love to hear what body language expert would make of him from this photo?Inclined in his chair towards the Chinese guy, hands down in front of his vulnerable bits.

Not hard to see who the alpha male is, is it?
21 Boovis (#) May 11th, 2013 - 09:16 am Report abuse
Good responses :)

...and, yes, if African nations were smart enough to realise China's game and tell them to get lost, then I should be surprised that Argentina haven't spotted them trying to play the same game with them...but I'm not.
22 Frank (#) May 11th, 2013 - 09:25 am Report abuse
Still no mention of the 'malvinas myth' in the chinese press.. www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2013-05/11/content_16492495.htm?

Booboo tells fibs
23 andy65 (#) May 11th, 2013 - 10:02 am Report abuse
Only Argentines and dick heads like THINK and that LONDON squatter Marcos Alejandro would celebrate getting cosy with a country like China who would drop Argentina like a bag of shit once they have got what they wan,. but I suppose they do have a lot in common though where freedom of speech and treating your own people like shit are concerned so yes Argentina your on the right road there.
24 Room101 (#) May 11th, 2013 - 10:08 am Report abuse
This too shall pass.
25 andy65 (#) May 11th, 2013 - 10:20 am Report abuse
Perhaps vice president Li and The botox Queen should make a new baby can you imagine how fooooking ugly it would look
26 Falkland Islands (#) May 11th, 2013 - 10:29 am Report abuse
Argentina are thick, China will have a hold on them for there own purposes, use them and leave them in a bigger mess ha ha.
27 Falklands are British (#) May 11th, 2013 - 10:33 am Report abuse
Argentina is like a dirty little whore. Willing to accept any perversion and give up on any normal morally accepted decent behaviour for a few pesos or some kind of open acknowledgement however shallow, that their seedy version of the world is right.

The trouble is that the sane world knows that they all collectively suffer from some nasty venereal disease and avoid them like the plague. They are therefore left to prostitute themselves to wacko jacko individuals or nations. The 'pesos' or 'words' received are therefore meaningless or worthless.

No sooner said then forgotten.

The Empire is returning to Britain. Cool.
28 Steve-33-uk (#) May 11th, 2013 - 10:56 am Report abuse
'Tory MEPs demand action after Spanish politician breaks ranks on Falklands dispute - Tory MEPs are demanding authorities rein in a Spanish politician after he told Argentinean officials the European parliament did not recognise British sovereignty over the Falklands...'
www.politics.co.uk/news/2013/05/10/tory-meps-demand-action-after-spanish-politician-breaks-rank

'David Cameron should stop grovelling to Barack Obama and stand up for Britain over the Falklands - The prime minister jets into Washington this weekend, for a meeting with President Obama at the White House on Monday. As I noted in a piece earlier this week, this is an opportunity for David Cameron to look like a statesman, not a cheerleader. His last visit to Washington was an embarrassment, with the British leader fawning all over the most left-wing and anti-British president of modern times, even de facto endorsing Obama for a second term as president....'
blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100216163/david-cameron-should-stop-grovelling-to-barack-obama-and-stand-up-for-britain-over-the-falklands/
29 Falklands are British (#) May 11th, 2013 - 12:10 pm Report abuse
Obama is a lowlife however America is changing. We have had a black African president. It won't be long before we have a president whose ancestors came over with the conquistadors rather than the pilgrim fathers. Lowlife's policies reflect the rise of the poor dagos and their growing influence on all American politics not withstanding his hatred of us.

We should fuck America and move closer to Europe or all emigrate to Australia.
30 Pirate Love (#) May 11th, 2013 - 12:15 pm Report abuse
lookout Taiwan....The Nazis of argentina are on your case!

yet again...Self-determination...Match that!
31 Falklands are British (#) May 11th, 2013 - 12:21 pm Report abuse
Whores
32 alan (#) May 11th, 2013 - 12:22 pm Report abuse
The official Chinese view of the Tiananmen Square massacre in 1989 - “No students were killed in the Square itself”. China and Argentina made for each other.
33 Falklands are British (#) May 11th, 2013 - 12:38 pm Report abuse
And the other basket case nations they continue to get into bed with. As in every aspect of life, like cream, some political leaders rise to the top whilst others, like shit, sink to the bottom.
34 andy65 (#) May 11th, 2013 - 12:45 pm Report abuse
@Marcos Alejandro, I heard you are thinking about leaving London and re locating to China be warned the benefits aren't as good
35 manchesterlad (#) May 11th, 2013 - 12:48 pm Report abuse
Well if you believe Bobos version of events then you believe that inflation in Arg is 10%, the economy is growing by 1 to 2% a year, the blue dollar is really 6.5/1, YPF is boosting production, the judiciary is being 'democratized', the media law guarantees freedom of the press, crime & insecurity doesn't exist, the trains run on time...................

Oh yeah, & that there is no government corruption & all the bags of laundered money leaving the country are legitimate gains from honest land deals made by the kirchners!!!

I think everything that comes out of Bobos mouth is treated with the contempt it deserves since he is one of the most corrupt politicians in Arg!!!
36 Fedaykin (#) May 11th, 2013 - 02:18 pm Report abuse
Great! Now Argentina and China have that sorted out the UK can get on building those Diesel Submarines that the Taiwanese navy desperately need!

A Diesel submarine based on Astute technology protecting jobs at Barrow and Taiwan gets the submarines that America has failed to provide over the last decade! Win Win!
37 Baxter (#) May 11th, 2013 - 03:05 pm Report abuse
Surely no surprise , China is moving in and will support anything to get access to raw materials a la Africana ! If he visits Colombia and Venezuela he will say that Martinique , Curaçao , Aruba and others belong to them . Or that half Guyana belongs to Venezuela .Or that Surinam and French Guiana belong to Frsnce !
38 Marcos Alejandro (#) May 11th, 2013 - 03:12 pm Report abuse
Frankie
A few weeks ago
“Beijing: China on Monday backed Argentina's claim over the disputed Falkland islands, rejecting the validity of the referendum being held in the British-ruled territory”

“China supports Argentina's claim to the islands and expects both sides to resolve the issue through dialogue in accordance with the law,”

zeenews.india.com/news/world/china-backs-argentina-s-claim-over-falklands_834601.html

A few hours ago
Xinhuanet

”He expressed appreciation for China's support to Argentina's claim for the sovereignty of the Malvinas Islands (called the Falkland Islands in Britain)”

news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2013-05/11/c_132374947.htm

More nice pictures from Xinhuanet

news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2013-05/11/c_132374596.htm
39 Conqueror (#) May 11th, 2013 - 03:50 pm Report abuse
Might be worth China reading some history. In 1931, Japan invaded and established the puppet state of Manchukuo. A state that existed until the Western Allies defeated Japan. Now China wants to get into bed with the nazi clones. And this is a good idea.......how? So the nazi argies get into China. Then the old allies get together. Remind us. Who did we beat the shit out of? Germans, Italians, Japs, Hungarians, Romanians, Bulgarians, Croatians, Slovakians. Would it be reasonable to turn anything we don't find acceptable into ash? Mind you, we should approach things reasonably in terms of culpability. So, argieland first. Then Iran. North Korea. Genocidal arabs. Who needs them? And, finally, China and Russia. Make them abandon their unreasoning xenophobia. UN intervention.
@38 What a shame.
“China supports Argentina's claim to the islands and expects both sides to resolve the issue through dialogue in accordance with the law,”
Not a problem. “Uti possidetis”. The law!
And the rest is garbage. Propaganda so that China can take what it wants.
Still, who cares? Argieland is so full of shit that it is shit. Nobody will miss it.
40 Falkland Islands (#) May 11th, 2013 - 03:59 pm Report abuse
@38 ”He expressed appreciation for China's support to Argentina's claim for the sovereignty of the Malvinas Islands (called the Falkland Islands in Britain)”

I would like to point out you idiot, That the Falkland Islands were called the FALKLAND ISLANDS before the disgusting country of Argentina existed. You are such a nob Marcos.
41 screenname (#) May 11th, 2013 - 04:05 pm Report abuse
So hypocrites with no morals stick together...

and some posters on here actually think this is good news for an Argentinean claim? Argentina's stance on 'one China' blows holes in there own 'planted population' stance over the Falklands (even though that weak stance was fake anyway).

Argentina signing this is great news for the Falklanders.
42 reality check (#) May 11th, 2013 - 04:11 pm Report abuse
So when do they take over from Vale then?

Thought they would jump at the chance to invest in their dynamic monster of an economy?

Nah, talking like a and behaving like a dickhead, are two completely different things.
43 Islander1 (#) May 11th, 2013 - 04:28 pm Report abuse
marcos- you are so typical of Argentines! China will say what it wants to get what it actually wants from Argentina - China knows it - and we and UK know it so we are not bothered over a few meaningless words(both Chile and Uruguay tell you words you like to hear - then carry on doing direct business with the Falkland Islands)- UK-China trade and relations are of more value in the real world and both know it.
If I were an Argentine though I would be getting worried about what my Govt has sold out to China
44 ChrisR (#) May 11th, 2013 - 04:32 pm Report abuse
China still think they are the Chin of the Middle Kingdom.

Nothing changes, they will fcuk anybody once and drop them like a brick afterwards.

Enjoy the experience Argentina.
45 Faz (#) May 11th, 2013 - 04:47 pm Report abuse
Visited China recently for the first time since 1984. It hasn't changed much. Still a grim poluted place. A police state where people have no freedom to live where they like or as they like. They are building grim prison type tower blocks everywhere to bring the peasants into the towns so they can work in sweatshops for very low wages. The air stinks, the vistas are grim, police everywhere. Lovely place!

Great place for Rgs to copy. Great place for them to emulate. They are colonising Africa by stealth and SA's mineral resources are attractive to them.

They can't teach Britain and the Falkland Islands about freedom and democracy because they don't know diddley squat about what it actually is. KFC, Tinman and Putrid Jelly are welcome....
46 slattzzz (#) May 11th, 2013 - 05:53 pm Report abuse
@38 ah poor Marcos, do you THINK that China actually cares about the Falklands? No thought not, they will say whatever they THINK you want to hear and then laugh at you as they strip you of everything, and you will fall for it, that's why you are, and forever will be losers. Then they'll visit London and say they back Britain's claim and we will say, we don't care what you THINK trot on.
47 Ayayay (#) May 11th, 2013 - 06:17 pm Report abuse
Free Tibet!!!!!!!
48 andy65 (#) May 11th, 2013 - 07:03 pm Report abuse
Kirchner and Argentina will prostitute itself to any one and any country willing to listen to it's lies and fairy tales I hope China stiffs then good and proper I am also sick of looking at photos of The Botox queen Crissy Kirchner looking dirty she needs to scrape that brown mud shit of her face and take a good wash
49 Anbar (#) May 11th, 2013 - 08:07 pm Report abuse
””He expressed appreciation for China's support to Argentina's claim for the sovereignty of the Malvinas Islands (called the Falkland Islands in Britain)”“

Erm... hate to point out the obvious but your quote is about an Argentine politician saying ”thanks for the support“... I still havent see a chinese politician actually expressing that support.

In addition the furthest they would go remains tacit support for the call for talks - unfortuantley many Argentines ahve been indoctrinated into believing that ”talks“ = surrender of sovereignty to Argentina.

Hate to be the bearer of bads news but ”talks” means that the UK and Argentina sit down around a table, are joined by FIG representatives and the Uk and FIG tell Argentine to frak off.

Congratulations Argentina, Chinas support is fulfilled.

whoopydefrikkindoo
50 M_of_FI (#) May 11th, 2013 - 09:51 pm Report abuse
@3 Thunk

I really wish I had the foresight to count every time you used the nail analogy. Keep those nails coming.
51 John III (Pope) (#) May 12th, 2013 - 05:54 am Report abuse
@1
How dare you suggest that MercoPress is nothing more than a Brit propaganda site!
52 Troy Tempest (#) May 12th, 2013 - 06:36 am Report abuse
@51teeny troll Toby

weak diversion troll boy.

just drop it.
The Falklands are not Argentina's, never will be, and the Chinese could not care less.
Once they have options on your raw materials, they'll ignore any concerns you have.
53 Frank (#) May 12th, 2013 - 08:31 am Report abuse
RGland has a truly 'first world' relationship with China.... they sell them soy and China sells them infrastructure and cheap manufactured shit .... not unlike their relationship with Britain 100+ years ago.... that was beef for infrastructure and cheap manufactured shit... deja vu all over again.... not much progress in over a century....
54 britanico (#) May 12th, 2013 - 10:44 am Report abuse
Well, the Brazilians have had their egos inflated as a result of China wanting their soya, now it's the Argentines' turn to be China's bitches.

China claims Taiwan as a province, but doesn't impose restrictions on it as Argentina does with the Falklands. Argentina has an Embassy in Beijing, but has a Trade and Cultural Office in Taipei - www.argentina.org.tw/ - but China doesn't throw a wobbly over that.

Personally, I think Britain should only have a Trade and Cultural Office in Buenos Aires, and regard Argentina as just a rebel colony of the Spanish Empire.
55 Wefukyoo (#) May 12th, 2013 - 11:49 am Report abuse
Okinawa is ours too.

www.businessinsider.com/china-okinawa-too-2013-5

And we think Farkrands also ours!
56 Pete Bog (#) May 12th, 2013 - 12:09 pm Report abuse
I am not sure why Argentina thinks that if they did have dialogue between themselves and the UK, even without Falkland Islanders being present, that this would be a one way route to Argentine sovereignty?

Surely Argentina's claims without the exact examination of historical documents which refute those claims, and not taking into account the provisions of the UN charter (as per 2065 et al since insist ), would collapse anyway.

China might refuse to exercise self determination, but this part of the UN charter cannot be airbrushed away whetehr China likes it or not.

It says something that even when Argentina and UK were having dialogue and the UK wanted rid of the Falklands, Argentina still did not get them, except when their pirates invaded, as the UK could not go against the UN charter it had signed up to.

Everyone supports dialogue on the issue, but as several posters have pointed out:
Argentina: We want the Falklands because you usurped them in 1833.
UK: Bollocks-we claimed them since 1690, and when we occupied Port Egmont in 1765 you weren't there(and neither were the Spanish). We exercised our previous claim in 1833.
Argentina :( Fingers stuck in ears) You threw off our civilian settlers in 1833.
(Dialogue on history with UK diplomats examining historical documents and Argentines producing cartoons and emotive outbursts as evidence for about 5 days).
UK: And in addition to that we are sticking to the UN charter which says the Islanders born on the Islands must have a say (according to international law)-so we have bought in some MLA's to discuss this with you.
Talks end. Argentina makes false claims for the next few 100 years.
57 Martin Woodhead (#) May 12th, 2013 - 12:23 pm Report abuse
Argentina and china both need to relax how about some high quality opium?
very relaxing we know some chaps in helmund who can deliver sea freight or by air.
what we have previous :).
58 DanyBerger (#) May 12th, 2013 - 12:26 pm Report abuse
Let’s see...

Obama side with Argentina over the FI issue, China also side with Argentina over the FI issue, SA side with Argentina over the FI issue and EU also sent a sign to the world that they also side with Argentina.

So what all this shows?

The irrelevant that Great Britain had become to the world...

Oh! poor Britons...

No economy, no money, no jobs, no AAA, no Carriers, no planes, no Royal Navy, no Royal Mail, no support from USA, no support from China, no support from EU, no hopes and, no influence in the world, no respect from Spain and no sense of the ridiculous and humiliation anymore...

It is not sad?
59 Falklands are British (#) May 12th, 2013 - 12:35 pm Report abuse
Go on Argentina and recognise China's sovereignty over Okinawa before they formally claim it. You whores.

I gratitude, they might, as well as acknowledging your claim to British territory for your earlier whoring, stop regarding you as something on the bottom of their shoes that they have had the misfortune to stand on. A new first for you.
60 Gordo1 (#) May 12th, 2013 - 01:15 pm Report abuse
I think it's time the Dalai Lama, the peacemaker par excellence, should advise Argentina not to trust the Chinese too much. After all, in an empire building gesture they took over his country, Tibet, and he was exiled from his own land.
61 Anbar (#) May 12th, 2013 - 01:19 pm Report abuse
Dream on Dany.... Obama may hate the British but even then he hasn't backed Argentina...he knows the US population wouldnt support it (even if he would love to)

Similarly China hasnt sided with Argentina, one of your politiicians, as they often do, has just altered HIS language to suggest they do...as far as they've ever gone is to support the UN which supports talks..and those talks do not confer ANY rights to Argentina.

Certainly NONE of those cancel out the FIs right to self-determination.

Its like the supposed “all Africa supports us” claim - its spurious and deliberately worded by the Argentina Government to appear more than it actually is.

You're just making things up... as usual.

And the fact that you need to make things up just tells everybody with a brain just how weak your position is.

et prosim vince malum bono
62 Gordo1 (#) May 12th, 2013 - 01:26 pm Report abuse
@58 DanyVerga

You say “No economy, no money, no jobs, no AAA, no Carriers, no planes, no Royal Navy, no Royal Mail, no support from USA, no support from China, no support from EU, no hopes and, no influence in the world, no respect from Spain and no sense of the ridiculous and humiliation anymore...”

Where do you get all this exclusive information from? I would be delighted to peruse your sources of information!
63 Captain Poppy (#) May 12th, 2013 - 01:54 pm Report abuse
Hey dumburger....please just this once, provide me a lick where Obama states that.....“he supports Argentina over the UK” in Argentina's ridiculous claim of the Falkland Islands. Don't confuse politics and support. You make one hell of a huge leap with the claim.
64 Troy Tempest (#) May 12th, 2013 - 02:25 pm Report abuse
Dany is not here to debate anything.

He has just rolled up in a ball, a bunch of unsubstantiated Argie lies and half-truths.

Hardly an intellect, he has no full understanding of the issues he lists, nor is he interested in discussing anything.

He is simply one of the “low level Trolls” sent on here to harrassing and demoralise.

It is not worth engaging him.
65 Brit Bob (#) May 12th, 2013 - 02:53 pm Report abuse
@58

Argentina is irrelevant.

So sad.
66 Gordo1 (#) May 12th, 2013 - 02:55 pm Report abuse
DanyVerga - you are clearly an Argentine troll yet you refer to the Falklands archipelago as FI not as “Malvinas” - do your masters at La Cámpora know of your disobedience of ordersÇ
67 redp0ll (#) May 12th, 2013 - 02:58 pm Report abuse
China and Argentina To paraphrase Mandy Rice-Davis answer in court at the Profumo trial “Well they would say that,wouldnt they?”
68 Captain Poppy (#) May 12th, 2013 - 03:35 pm Report abuse
I think Max“the fat Fucking” Kirchner will blow a fuse when he soon realizes one of his creations used FI and not Las Malvinas........lol

Poor dumburger.......you forgot the cheese.
69 Islander1 (#) May 12th, 2013 - 04:38 pm Report abuse
DannyB
Please show me the lst of nations that supprt Argentina in practical and meaningful ways over the dispute?
We trade with Uruguay and ships go back and forth.
We trade with chile and ships go bcak and forth - as does an airline.
There is no barrier we know of to trade and links with any other country in S America - ther than the simple distance/cost issue - which is why we workk with neighbours.
EU - show me the official statement that says this - not just a remark from a spaniish MEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I would gave hardly expected a Spansih MEP to say anyhting else actually!
70 Conqueror (#) May 12th, 2013 - 04:50 pm Report abuse
@51 How dare youu suggest that you're a “person”. You “know” you're not. Bacteria, amoeba, insect, blob, robot. Which is it? I favour “bacteria”.
@55 You seem to have an “identity crisis”. Listen carefully. Your name is “Wefukus”. Repeat that one hundred times. Go for it. “Wefukus”, “wefukus”, “wefukus”, “wefukus”, “wefukus”!
@58 Off in la-la land again! Obama hasn't sided with the arse-lovers. Not that UK would care. China hasn't publicly stated any support. Perhaps they are concerned about British nuclear ICBMs. SA “says” it sides with argieland. But then there's Chile still enabling flights, Chile still co-operating with the Royal Navy, Chile still co-operating with FI. And the rest of SA? How many nukes? Strangely, our “no economy” is hundreds of times better than that of argieshitland. Loads of money, thanks. Don't need “jobs”. I'm retired. More carriers than argieshitland has. And they float! Loads of planes, thanks. Recognise the “new” argie navy? It doesn't “sail”. It turns over. Support? why would we need “support”? If I piss, argieshitland drowns. Spain? Shitlickers. A place full of maids, waiters and other servants. Spain isn't much different to argieland. All mouth.
71 briton (#) May 12th, 2013 - 06:05 pm Report abuse
Again CFK sees gold where only tin plated gold was offered,
CHINA stated,

We support you [yes]
But send troops [no]
Send ships [no]
Send planes [no]
Put pressure on the brits [no]
Piss of the brits [no]
Stop talking to them [no]
China/argentina navy exercises [no]
China /argentine war games [ no]
But we do fully support you..
lolololol

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72 Falklands are British (#) May 12th, 2013 - 07:09 pm Report abuse
Just don't start me up Dany

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilbd43AZCnY
73 Captain Poppy (#) May 12th, 2013 - 07:15 pm Report abuse
China has not publicly stated support because they are fence sitting and walking a political tightrope. In one case....they need to usurp all the natural resources they can from Argentina, so they essentially and quietly say yeah....we support you, but never publicly making a statement. This would be the equivalent to waking after a night at the bar and waking with the fat ugly chick...........and bragging about it!!
On the other hand they still need the UK market to export to because there is not enough consumer purchasing power in Argentina to offset the loss if they were to get into a political riff with the UK. Trade with the UK is equally as important as usurping the natural resources in Argentina. Remember...China cannot feed nor fuel itself so they need weaker nations to suck off of. Here is a thought......will the misquito (china) stop sucking the arm (argentina) when it has enough, or will it explode from greed?
74 Pete Bog (#) May 12th, 2013 - 07:25 pm Report abuse
@58
“No economy,”

Well, it's better than yours will ever be.

“No money”

More than Argentina can lay it's hands on.

“ No jobs”

More than Argentina has (or will ever get under Queen Botox).

“ No AAA.”

Ever heard of Rapier? The missile with 4 miles range that Argentina claims threatens SA?

“ No Carriers,no planes”

UK has got a brilliant carrier-it's called MPA-and we only need a
handful of planes to keep your antique airforce at bay. Though you can inspect some well maintained Argentine military aircraft if you wish-they are housed in museums around the UK.

“No Royal Navy.”

That's why you sh1t yourself anytime you think a British submarine is within 1000 miles of Argentina?

“No Royal Mail.”
Well we do actually have communication within the UK

“No support from USA.”

Argentina definately hasn't.

“No support from China.”

Our trade is more important to China than yours.

“ No support from EU.”

Wait till the Spanish MEP gets an Alex Ferguson from the EU.

“No hopes.”

We will have Skylon, whereas you can't even manufacture aircraft (apart from the out of date jet named after a babies diapers).

“No influence in the world.”

Our influence doesn't come in the form of shouting our mouths off like Argentina with zero results (and having to retract all the time).

“No respect from Spain.”

Is that important?
75 Falklands are British (#) May 12th, 2013 - 07:26 pm Report abuse
A little ditty for you Dany. On the basis of people who are worth more than $30 million London is the richest city in the world. More than 4500 people. Shit isn't. I'm skint.
76 Steve-33-uk (#) May 12th, 2013 - 07:48 pm Report abuse
'Fury as EU sneers at Falklanders over right to stay British - A SENIOR Tory MP last night attacked “outrageous” claims that Europe does not recognise British sovereignty over the Falkland Islands...'
www.express.co.uk/news/uk/399025/Fury-as-EU-sneers-at-Falklanders-over-right-to-stay-British
77 Captain Poppy (#) May 12th, 2013 - 07:54 pm Report abuse
as of 2010, the USA had over 11 million with over one million in investible assets and 40,000 with a net worth of more than 30,000,000. The one stat I find disturbing is there are 6 family members of Walmart that are worth more than the combined worth of the lower 30% of Americans. That's like 105,000,000.
78 HansNiesund (#) May 12th, 2013 - 09:36 pm Report abuse
@58 Dany

The countries that support you are :
- fellow implanted Italo-Iberian populations of South America
- nutters (Iran, N Korea)
- dictators (Syria, Belarus ...)
- thieves (Equatorial Guinea, Zimbabwe .....)
- others who occupy or covet territories against the wishes of the inhabitants (Russia, China ...)

It's fine company to find yourselves in, and indeed you must be very comfortable there, given that Argentina ticks all the boxes. But it's not the whole world and it's not even enough to constitute a majority of the General Assembly.
79 Chicureo (#) May 12th, 2013 - 11:50 pm Report abuse
#78 Hans,
Sadly, my nation is on the list of supporters, along with the thugs in North Korea and Venezuela, but the truth is it's hollow... With no real substance. Most of my generation still vividly remember Operation Soberanía.
80 Tobers (#) May 13th, 2013 - 12:17 am Report abuse
Its all about diplomacy not morals. Those countries that support Argentina do so because they expect something in return.

I wouldn't be suprised if Chile etc speak to the UK behind the scenes and say 'Look we dont a fuck about Las Malvinas but you understand we live next door to The Hystericals and we do some trade with them so we hope you dont mind if we just throw a few cheap words of support their way to give us a bit of peace and keep business flowing. And re. Pinochet's assistance during the Falklands War - you're welcome'
81 Chicureo (#) May 13th, 2013 - 02:50 am Report abuse
#80 Tobers,
It's exactly: “...you understand we live next door to The Hystericals and we do some trade with them so we hope you dont mind if we just throw a few cheap words of support their way to give us a bit of peace and keep business flowing...”

It certainly has all the map and globe makers have their panties all twisted up.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2323514/Malvinas-globe-John-Lewis-Department-store-sells-95-product-Argentine-Falklands.html
Yes, THINK, you'll relish reading this, but TOBERS is absolutely right about “...you're welcome...”
www.spyflight.co.uk/chile.htm is very close to what actually happened...
Someday the rest of the story will be told...
82 Ayayay (#) May 13th, 2013 - 02:51 am Report abuse
@77
Me too, Pop pop.
I acknowledge that the Wally World money comes from a global dynamic& that the money-lite thirty percent may have a family history of anti-wealth habits.

That said, I dedicate my energy to fair-trade & living wages. Costco rocks.

Good news!!!: many U.S. cities now have less unemployment than the 6.9% Argentina has officially :D
www.forbes.com/pictures/ffik45ffi/no-1-bismark-nd-3/
83 Chicureo (#) May 13th, 2013 - 03:02 am Report abuse
#80 Tobers,
It's exactly: “...you understand we live next door to The Hystericals and we do some trade with them so we hope you dont mind if we just throw a few cheap words of support their way to give us a bit of peace and keep business flowing...”

It certainly has all the map and globe makers have their panties all twisted up.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2323514/Malvinas-globe-John-Lewis-Department-store-sells-95-product-Argentine-Falklands.html
Yes, THINK, you'll relish reading this, but TOBERS is absolutely right about “...you're welcome...”
www.spyflight.co.uk/chile.htm is very close to what actually happened...
Someday the rest of the story will be told... G

#82
Costco does indeed rock as does Whole Foods. I too believe in free and fair trade. We need to focus on the FAIR part, including living wages, safe working conditions and social responsibility.
84 John III (Pope) (#) May 13th, 2013 - 06:14 am Report abuse
@53
Except for that England is cut out of the trade.
85 Falklands are British (#) May 13th, 2013 - 07:58 am Report abuse
We have enough problems with the crap that comes from Eastern European. We certainly don't want any shit from you. I had a rib eye steak from Tesco once which actually came from Uruguay. One bite and it went in the bin. Fucking awful. SA is the real bottom end of the market but nobody now seems to sell their meat. We even get chicken from Thailand in prepared foods. More shit. I would touch none of it. I can't believe that we buy anything from Argentina now even Malbec is fucking putrid.
86 britanico (#) May 13th, 2013 - 10:00 am Report abuse
After Beijing, the Vice-President will travel to Pyongyang for a visit to the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, where he will receive lessons on economic management and the cult of personality.

“Except for that England is cut out of the trade.”

Don't worry, we can get it via Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, though doubt they'd want it either.
87 Falklands are British (#) May 13th, 2013 - 10:42 am Report abuse
Yes. He has now been trained on corruption, fraud and money laundering Argentine style. Well it was an exchange of thoughts really and no doubt discussions for reciprocal arrangements to increase their respective efficiency. Big shopping bags full of US dollars is a bit crude.
88 Smiley-Face (#) May 13th, 2013 - 02:29 pm Report abuse
A sensible country, supporting a “DEMOCRATIC” country's claim to an Island and all the people whom live there, even though that country (Argentina) is only after the oil, and doesn't give a damn about the people living there?
It truly is the end of all genius.
89 Falklands are British (#) May 13th, 2013 - 03:21 pm Report abuse
It is good that it will never, never, NEVER happen then.
90 Baxter (#) May 13th, 2013 - 09:21 pm Report abuse
58 Dany Burger . Nice comments ! But I must point out that the Royal Navy does exist . Five class 45 destroyers with a very powerful radar which can detect the breakfast an enemy ships captain is eating . Plus some cute little missiles . Now producing a submarine which can remain underwater for days on end . And I nearly forgot four powerful submarines , with eighty nuclear rockets each , prowling around looking for a target .
91 Falklands are British (#) May 13th, 2013 - 09:37 pm Report abuse
BOOM
92 hipolyte (#) May 14th, 2013 - 03:22 am
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93 DanyBerger (#) May 14th, 2013 - 06:19 am Report abuse
@Falklands are British

Well if you are skint, that it is easy to change you just have to ask those 4500’s 30M rich to give you just only U$s 6.666,66 each.

That would be nothing for someone having 30m, what do ya think mate?

@HansNiesund

Let me see some who support Argenlatina... Brazil, Uruguay, Bolivia, Paraguay, Chile, Perú, Colombia, Venezuela, Ecuador, Mexico, Cuba, Guatemala, Jamaica, Russia, China, Italy, Germany, Spain, US perhaps?, etc

Do you want the list of countries that support UK mate?

????? Oops

@ Baxter

But that looks like “Royal Funny” you know, now serious do you have any proper army on these days?

@Falklands are British

ah! BOOM, BOOM where idiot and then what?

You will see a big crater where once was Mount Pleasent I guess.
94 John III (Pope) (#) May 14th, 2013 - 06:58 am Report abuse
@58
Sorry to hear about your steak. Still the transaction was not a complete loss. The Uruguayan rancher from whom you bought your steak took your dollars and put them in the bank.

If you go from Chile to Argentina you will find that the quality of the meat improves immeasurably. But the livestock is the same in both countries. The difference is that the Argentinians know how to raise, slaughter and butcher their meat. The Chileans, bless their cotton socks, do not.

Chilean beef is regarded as the worst in southern America. However, it is orders of magnitude better than any that can be bought in England. You see the beef that you bought had been butchered in England. And England is a country that can take high quality raw materials and convert then into crap. It reminds me of what used to be said about Soviet manufacturing; the value of the manufactured product was worth less than the value of the raw materials.
95 Falklands are British (#) May 14th, 2013 - 08:52 am Report abuse
John the turd. Why do you link yourself to the Pope? Are you religious or the complete opposite (a heathen) and just taking the piss?

Don't apologise. It was really cheap. My wife bought in error. I nearly gave it to the dog but I didn't want it to be sick. Good luck to the rancher.

In the UK we have some massive grocery store groups competing with each other. The bottom end; Tesco and Asda (a Walmart company I think) are constantly price cutting each other and therefore they try and source food from all over the world. Anywhere where it is cheap. South America is really cheap for them but they have to be able to sell the food when they bring it over and there lies the problem. Putrid. Nobody will touch. British, Irish and Scottish, real quality, is relatively expensive. You have clearly never tried it. A typical good sized steak would cost the equivalent of an average Argentine's weekly living allowance.

Mercopress has shown a pictures of a grocery stores in Argentina. There is nothing on the shelf. Do you not have anything to eat over there? Are you ll starving? It is good that we have stopped taking your meat. If you are starving, even putrid food will keep you alive although personally I would rather starve.

A little bit of sour grapes in your last sentence?

Britain was know as the shopkeeper to the world. Cost, quality, the lot. Log on to the London Stock Exchange website. See the list of British companies. A lot will be household names in SA. A lot have a history longer than Argentina has been a country. If your soviet comment was true they would not exist any longer. Don't you think?
96 DanyBerger (#) May 14th, 2013 - 12:16 pm Report abuse
The day you eat half of the quality and amount the Argies eat call me idiot.

The food in UK is just disgusting expensive and low quality like the Lasagne with donkey.

The meat it is like a piece or rubber and to a void MCD better buy meat from Africa its is more healthy than the British meat produced.

And also it is the worse place to live even Spain surpass UK, you have to be really a shitty hole to be surpassed by Spain indeed...
metro.co.uk/2010/09/22/great-britain-is-worst-place-to-live-in-europe-in-uswitch-quality-of-life-survey-520003/

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1219743/Britain-worst-place-live-Europe-despite-big-pay-packets.html

www.guardian.co.uk/money/2011/sep/29/uk-worst-quality-of-life-europe

Sad but true...
97 Simon68 (#) May 14th, 2013 - 02:11 pm Report abuse
96 DanyBerger (#)
May 14th, 2013 - 12:16 pm

Dany, we are no longer the top exporters of beef. That is Brasil, Paraguay and Uruguay, and we export a lot less than Paraguay. We are now producing beef only in feedlots, so the quality of our beef is declining as well as the numbers of animals.

We used to be the world's #1 provider of top quality beef, but that was in the days of Frigoríficos Anglo, Swift, etc. Now we have lost our best bet when the Brasilians left!!!!
98 Pete Bog (#) May 14th, 2013 - 02:11 pm Report abuse
@94
“If you go from Chile to Argentina you will find that the quality of the meat improves immeasurably”

You seem to have forgotten that it was the British who set up the Argentine meat industry in the early 20th century.

Funny that, when Britain was involved in Argentina it was successful-after the fascist Peron it has been on a downward slide ever since.
99 Falklands are British (#) May 14th, 2013 - 02:23 pm Report abuse
Danny

Idiot.
100 LEPRecon (#) May 14th, 2013 - 08:40 pm Report abuse
Ah, here are the La Campora trolls trying desperately to do their job. Dany, Think, Tobias.

DEFLECT! DEFLECT! DEFLECT! From the fact that Argentina is FINISHED!!!

Only, you are all really crap at your jobs. Yet the desperation you exude when trying to post some sort of 'negative' story about other countries is quite amusing. DEFLECT! DEFLECT! DEFLECT!

But...every deal with China will have it's price. Pray that these 'negotiations' fall through, because if the deal is signed, China will own Argentina lock, stock and barrel.

Remember, China only cares about China. There's nothing wrong with that, however, but don't say we didn't warn you when they are taking all of your oil and gas, and soy crop, and anything else of value, whilst Argentina gets nothing in return.

China believes in honour. They will honour their side of the deal (which will of course be in their favour, and CFK is so desperate now she'll sign just about anything), and they will expect Argentina to honour its side of the deal.

But if you renege on the agreement, then China will show you how unforgiving they can be to those that dishonour them.
101 Troy Tempest (#) May 14th, 2013 - 09:26 pm Report abuse
@100LEPRecon

“Remember, China only cares about China. There's nothing wrong with that, however, but don't say we didn't warn you when they are taking all of your oil and gas, and soy crop, and anything else of value, whilst Argentina gets nothing in return.”

How true, LEP.

The locusts will strip the country bare - the husk will be worthless.

Meanwhile, the retired CFK and ministers will live a comfortable life in luxury, elsewhere.

They won't even pause to reflect on their betrayal of those they left behind.

How many of them will be the uneducated La Campora indoctrinees, zealots, and malcontents, with no job skills and less work ethic.

They'll be reduced to picking at the carcass of Argentina, countryside poisoned, resources gone.

buena suerte Argentina
102 HansNiesund (#) May 14th, 2013 - 10:18 pm Report abuse
@93

Dany, mate, in 2008 the UN voted on an Argentine/Spanish motion to limit the right of self-determination in cases where a territorial dispute exists. The UK proposed a counter amendment restating the principle of self-determination.

The results were as follows :

Voted with UK: 61
Voted with Argentina: 40
Abstained: 47
Didn't turn up: 44

So Argentina got 40 votes out of a possible 192, or about 20%.

This is a bit different from “the whole world supports Argentina”, as we are so often told. Quite onbviously, most of the world couldn't care less about Argentina's claim, and of the remainder more support the right of self-determination than Argentina's denial of it.

Of those countries that did support Argentina, the breakdown is as I stated it in @78, i.e the majority are your fellow implanted populations of South America, with a sprinkling of nutters, dictatorships, and other would-be or actual usurpers of somebody else's territory. And as Chicureo points out in @79, you shouldn't be betting the farm on your fellow implanted populations, the more so since you are dumb and self-obsessed enough to keep pissing them off while simultaneously demanding their support.

Looks like another failed strategy to me.

Voting figures from www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2008/gaspd406.doc.htm
103 Gordo1 (#) May 14th, 2013 - 10:30 pm Report abuse
@96 DanyVerga

There are lies, there are damn lies and, even worse, there are statistics.

Your posting is one of a very immature child but then you are, of course, a troll in the thrall of la Cámpora.
104 Chicureo (#) May 15th, 2013 - 02:32 am Report abuse
Interesting the comments about the quality of beef in Chile.
On about any day you can find special offers on imported beef from Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay, the USA and Austrailia. (free market here you know) and of course Chile. Typically, the most expensive, cut for cut is Chile, with the Waygu being the highest. Argentian grass fed red Angus used to be the best, but now I personally think its the lomo vetado from New South Wales. As far as the asado its self can be found at the Mercado del Puerto in Montevedo.
By the way, the best cuisine in South America is in Lima, the best seafood is in Chile, the best wine typically is from both Chile and Argentina, the most attentive waiters in Argentina, the best overall BBQ dining experience is Brazil and Paraguay has the best beef value for price/quality.
Where the Campora fool gets the idea that Chilean beef is poor, and has never had an authentic Aberdeen Angus Steak is as ignorant as they come...
And yes, anything with ground meat in Europe is off my list, but that's been AA general rule her in all of South America since colonization...
105 Troy Tempest (#) May 15th, 2013 - 05:11 am Report abuse
@Chico

Interesting post.

Please continue to keep the Campora children honest.
106 John III (Pope) (#) May 15th, 2013 - 06:20 am Report abuse
@96
How often do you go to England? The reason I ask is because I go across about once every year. I have noticed that food in the se of the country has been improving over the last years. Its still quite bad but nowhere as near as foul as it used to be.

The distance to London and BA are about the same for me but going to BA I know that I can get a good meal when I arrive.
107 DanyBerger (#) May 15th, 2013 - 09:20 am Report abuse
@Simon68

Don’t be silly will you Simon?

Have you ever eat what normal Brits eat in England?

Those meat factories you talk about went broke long time ago during Alfonsin’s and Menem times and Swift only exported Canned corned beef

img.weiku.com/waterpicture/2011/10/30/2/Swift_Corned_Beef_634620812365899316.jpg

This is pure shit now made in Philippines
img.weiku.com/waterpicture/2011/10/30/2/Swift_Corned_Beef_634620812365899316.jpg

During Alfonsin presidency most of the 300 meat exporter factories were destroyed by Alfonsin economy policies and Menen gave them the final shot.

How do I know this?

From first hand, family members that have a company that supplied the 300 exporter factories in Argentina and the family company went also burst together with many of those factories.

Meat factories like Frigorifico Monte Grande SA, Yaguane SA, PENTA SA, La Morocha SA, FabricarneSA, Meatex sa, Finescor Sa, CEPA SA, Pontevedra SA, Ramallo sa, etc some with approved Hilton quotas went burst or under bankruptcy protection.

From those dark days “An Alfonsin’s relative and fellow friends wanted to acquire some of those factories for free and one engineer partner of them that acquired a factory called Yaguane SA. handled to get a Hilton quota (Are just partial cuts of the cow) to export from fellow govt. but the idiot didn’t know how the industry works and forgot to find clients for the rest of the cow.

Until the imminent collapse of the business he called fellow “correligionarios” friends better knows as “corrupt radicals politicians” and they provided him an Ad Hoc solution called “Mercados comunales” for neighbourhoods so he could avoid bankruptcy.

The factory went burst anyway and then come Julio Mera Figueroa and Samid (to the rescue).

But this is another story that if you want I can tell you about how Samid from poor become millionaire by renting, buying, creating debt and burst meat factories from the ‘80.
108 LEPRecon (#) May 15th, 2013 - 04:13 pm Report abuse
@106 Tobias

Lying is bad for the soul. You haven't been outside your own house, let alone outside your own village.

But never mind, when China brings it communist utopia to Argentina, you can live safe in the knowledge that your country will at least be run better than it currently is, and you will have a nice job, working all hours for a pittance. And feel free to complain about it. The Chinese really know how to deal with dissenters.
109 Chicureo (#) May 15th, 2013 - 10:29 pm Report abuse
#106
Gosh, golly gee...
You seem to travel a lot. You mentioned in another article that you also travelled to Chile about every 6 weeks during the peaceful transition of presidential power in 1973. If I knew you had been visiting at the time, we could have invited you and your friend Hepatia to visit our national football stadium... What by chance was the purpose of your regular visits? Bringing in supplies of AK47s?
But, gosh that's off the current subject of meat and good meals...
...so you say that BA has better food than London? ...how very well traveled and observant you are...
110 agent999 (#) May 16th, 2013 - 01:58 pm Report abuse
@106
It is a shame the Argentina cannot get even one restaurant in the World's 50 Best Restaurants 2013

www.theworlds50best.com/list/1-50-winners/
111 Troy Tempest (#) May 16th, 2013 - 03:15 pm Report abuse
@106 Teen Troll Toby

“How often do you go to England? The reason I ask is because I go across about once every year. I have noticed that food in the se of the country has been improving over the last years. Its still quite bad but nowhere as near as foul as it used to be.

The distance to London and BA are about the same for me but going to BA I know that I can get a good meal when I arrive.”

Ha ha, Toby, simply laughable!!!

Havanna and McDonald's are the extent of the world cuisine you have sampled.

You really know nothing!!

BTW, in 1981, in Miraflores, just outside Lima, I had a fabulous steak of Argentinian Beef.
I wouldn't waste my money on the second rate stuff they produce today.

I can get an excellent steak from my neighbouring province, Alberta.
Truly 'world class'!
112 rule_britannia (#) May 16th, 2013 - 05:47 pm Report abuse
Amado Boudou forgot to say that Mrs. K. supports China's 'scramble for Africa' even though there is little or no long-term benefit to Africa as exports to China comprise mostly primary commodities, such as oil and agricultural produce (just like Argentina's, eh?). China's no strings-attached aid policy and support for African dictators belies all Mrs. K's posturing on human rights and the welfare of the masses.

exports to China comprise mostly primary commodities such as oil and agricultural produce. They also assert that the no strings-attached aid policy pursued by the Chinese leads to a reduction in the pressure on governments to improve on issues such as human rights. Chinese support to dictators is seen as being counterproductive to the welfare of the masses and as benefitting Africa’s elite.
113 John III (Pope) (#) May 17th, 2013 - 07:04 am Report abuse
@111
Maybe but can you get a good meal in the UK? In London with great difficulty and outside not at all.
114 Simon68 (#) May 17th, 2013 - 01:01 pm Report abuse
110 agent999 (#)
May 16th, 2013 - 01:58 pm

It seems that we don't figure in the top 100!!!!!

And for Tobias' information it seems that a considerable number of British restaurants appear in the top 100 world wide!!!!!
115 Troy Tempest (#) May 17th, 2013 - 03:19 pm Report abuse
@113 Teen Toby of Tiny Town

“Maybe but can you get a good meal in the UK? In London with great difficulty and outside not at all.”

Toby, you really do not know what you are talking about.

Did you READ something from some cynic, an article from 20 years ago??

YOU wouldn't know anything about food anywhere.
YOU have never left Mendoza. I'm sure you are just slavishly repeating what you think you should say.

Foreign cuisine for you is limited to cakes at Havanna's ( not really Cuban, you know - and Cubans could not afford it), and McDonald's, a real treat for you!

With the exception of Wimpy's in London, I've had no problem getting great food in the UK.
Pub food is often very good and satisfying. My favourite is the Shepherd &Dog pub in the South Downs of Sussex.
Not only does London have great pubs and traditional food, but some fantastic BBQ'd lamb Kebab stands.
Mayfair is home to wonderful restaurants - again, great lamb and traditional food, as well as high-end foreign restaurants - the Bombay Palace being one of my favourites.

Too bad you will never experience any of this - you'll be stuck with your local spicy sausages of mystery meat for some time now!
116 Ayayay (#) May 17th, 2013 - 06:30 pm Report abuse
@112 good insight.
117 Tobers (#) May 17th, 2013 - 07:03 pm Report abuse
Toby, Berger etc

You can criticize Britain for many things but absolutely don't bother when it comes to food.

variety
quality
cost and value for money

There is simply no competition.
118 Troy Tempest (#) May 17th, 2013 - 11:02 pm Report abuse
@117tobers

Food is not the issue.

Food is not the subject of the article, either.

The issue is Teen Troll Toby is LYING.
Despite his posing,
-he has never traveled to London once, let alone “once a year”.
- He has no idea about food in Britain.

Toby has no credibility - total BS.

Back to discussion around the article,

Argentina has little to offer us. Their products are raw commodities - China will take those, leaving nothing and no related industry or expertise. They produce no “Value-Added” products!!

Unlike Britain.
119 John III (Pope) (#) May 18th, 2013 - 06:05 am Report abuse
@112
As opposed to the long term benefit to Africa of the last scramble for Africa.
120 DanyBerger (#) May 18th, 2013 - 06:30 am Report abuse
@Troy Tempest

Britain has the worse food in Europe and everybody knows that but you.

“Argentina has little to offer us”

Well Argentina has a surplus with UK in trade so your assertion about Argentina has little to offer to you seem to work in reverse.

en.mercopress.com/2012/02/21/argentina-uk-2011-bilateral-trade-totalled-1.4bn-dollars-could-suffer-malvinas-dispute-impact

As you have cited Mendoza in your earlier post, Petrochemical Cuyo SA has one plant located there that produces plastic resins like Polypropylene by using German Technology : )

PP HOMO
PP COPO
PP Random
And different blends etc.
www.cuyonet.com/english/quienessomos.html

Mendoza is an international heavy player in the wine industry and also have Oil productioon, mining of Uranium, Iron, magnesium, Silver, Lead, Zinc, Talc, Bentonite, etc.

Now what do you have to offer from little Sussex?

Debt and food that none want to eat?
121 Tobers (#) May 18th, 2013 - 01:42 pm Report abuse
Youve never been to Britain or you are simply trolling. If you believe what you say then you are relying on a 50 yr old stereotype. A county capital in Britain has more variety of food in the supermarket or dining than in the whole of BA. Ive been to BA and its remarkably uncosmopolitan for a city of its size.
122 Troy Tempest (#) May 18th, 2013 - 02:46 pm Report abuse
@120dany

Frankly, Dany, you are full of it.

Cheap ( not so much anymore ) second-rate wine? Chilean is far better.

A plastics factory??

A collection of raw commodities??

Improperly-regulated food production??

All of those products are readily available elsewhere, from friends - without all the attitude and drama one gets from Argentina :-)

Even with your plummeting Peso, you cannot make your products more competitive because of the policies of “Kiss-off”, your economic genius.

Peso back to 10/1 USD any day now.

MERCOSUR is shattering. Only Argentina and Venezuela want to keep its limitations.

When you piss everyone else off, and you can't sell your commodities elsewhere, China will gladly relieve you of all your resources.

CHINA IS LAUGHING AT YOU

CFK and Kiss-off are growing rich off dupes like you.

Dany,
The food in Britain is far better than the bitter-tasting propaganda that La Campora feeds you.

Do you really believe all that they tell you, and all that you slavishly repeat??

Read what is really happening in Argentina.
You and your children will be slaves for decades

www.strategycenter.net/docLib/20130513_LaC%E1mporaFINAL.pdf
123 ChrisR (#) May 18th, 2013 - 06:36 pm Report abuse
Desperate reading for any sensible Argentine.

No doubt BK will agree with it.
124 DanyBerger (#) May 19th, 2013 - 05:53 am Report abuse
@Tobers

Tell me Mr. Cosmopolitan why cosmopolitan British are monolingual?

You sure didn’t find your Lasagne with donkey meat by Findus and Comigel. Right?
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2275565/Horse-meat-lasagne-Online-jokers-make-fun-Findus-scandal-hilarious-images.html

@Troy Tempest

My question was what do you have from Sussex still British to offer. Ah! you couldn’t find anything. Right?
125 Troy Tempest (#) May 19th, 2013 - 06:21 am Report abuse
@124 Dany

“Dany”

I think we've just seen you 'out' yourself as really being A “TOBY” SOCK PUPPET!!!

Both you and Toby seem to post in the same immature manner.

Some of us have noticed this before.

Toby posts @119 and then you, out of the blue, post @120, picking up a previous trolling subject about food and Mendoza!!
126 britanico (#) May 19th, 2013 - 01:29 pm Report abuse
@124 Tell me Mr. Cosmopolitan why cosmopolitan British are monolingual?

Cosmopolitan people aren't, multiculturalists are, because they think multiculturalism absolves them of the need to know anything. In any event, there are more people in Britain studying the languages of Asia and Africa than there are in Argentina, which is a Third World country, and as such, ignores the other regions of the developing world.

The University of London has this www.soas.ac.uk - what does Argentina have?

This is the closest you'll ever get to seeing an Argentine speaking an Asian language - www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkZSVQeYRXs
127 DanyBerger (#) May 20th, 2013 - 02:53 am Report abuse
@Troy Tempest

In can be immature, but you didn’t answer what little Sussex has still English to offer...

Harder to find out. isn’t it?

@britanico

No can you write you post again but this time in plain understandable English please?
128 Troy Tempest (#) May 20th, 2013 - 05:39 am Report abuse
Dany

The subject of the article is trade between China and Argentina, and what you have to offer them, on what terms.

Since @106, You have been doing your best to divert the discussion to UK food, UK debt, UK trade.

Sorry, we're doing well, thankyou.

Don't forget, “little Sussex”is part of ”little UK.
Lots of money here. Next time I see Paul McCartney and his pals at the Shepherd and Dog, I'll ask them how they came by it.

Meanwhile, it's a safe beautiful place to live. Still fresh salmon in the streams, very idyllic.

And of course, they can always travel to the Continent to their Spanish, French, or Italian seasonal homes where it's warm and the locals are grateful for the extra Euros. :-)

Maybe we can interest you in some International investments? Money up front, please.

Ta ta, deadbeat.
129 redp0ll (#) May 20th, 2013 - 08:50 am Report abuse
@127 Oh Dunny squatter
You write in reply to britanicus “please post inplain understandable English ” and in the same post produce this gramtic gem “ you didnt answer what little Sussex has still English to offer” Whats that supposed to mean?
Tu quoque , o Dunny gramaticus, tu quoque
You say you are multilingual (or monoglotal?)
No matter; you are certainly monotonous
130 DanyBerger (#) May 20th, 2013 - 07:55 pm Report abuse
@Troy Tempest

You as always are wrong who started to talk about food was “Falklands are British” in post #85

“I had a rib eye steak from Tesco once which actually came from Uruguay. One bite and it went in the bin. Fucking awful. SA is the real bottom end of the market but nobody now seems to sell their meat. We even get chicken from Thailand in prepared foods. More shit. I would touch none of it. I can't believe that we buy anything from Argentina now even Malbec is fucking putrid.”

Can you see? Who can I have a serious debate with you guys if you are always confused and still talks about Paul McCartney? Is he still alive?

Don’t worry we can see “El Diego” (hand of god) around town. Ha ha

“Maybe we can interest you in some International investments? Money up front, please.”

What kind of business you can offer me? I’m just curios you know?

@redpoll

You are the master of English here. How can we write well when you are not able to write properly your own language?

Do ya know wha’ I mean?

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