Saturday, May 25th 2013 - 05:45 UTC

All ready for the massive ‘decade won’ celebration of ten years of Kirchnerite rule

All is ready for the massive ‘decade won’ celebration that President Cristina Fernández plans to hold on Saturday May 25 to commemorate the ten years since her late husband Nestor Kirchner first took office, but which must also be interpreted as a rally in support of her administration battered by inflation, a slowing economy, political battles and growing claims of rampant corruption.

The huge stage with all the lights and sound to enjoy the ‘decade won’

Cristina Fernandez will be the only speaker, trying to recover public opinion support

That day, May 25 marks the 203rd anniversary of the ‘May Revolution’ which opened the path for Argentina as a country and its independence. It was also a cold day back in 2003 when the virtually unknown governor from deep Patagonia won an emergency presidential election with 22% of ballots cast in a shattered country with melted economy and almost half the population below the poverty line.

“On May 25 we have a double obligation: Celebrate the May Revolution and support with all our strength our Head of State in this decade won,” said Presidential Chief-of-Staff Oscar Parrilli.

“Our President is being slandered, offended and insulted. They even messed with her dogs,” said the Kirchnerite official following a series of remarks regarding the pet photos tweeted days ago by Cristina Fernández. But also allegations in the mainstream media that businessmen laundered tens of millions of Euros skimmed from public work contracts.

“We will have to confirm our love, trust and support for the socio-economic model that began in 2003, in order for it to thrive,” said Parrilli.

However, the head of state is “stronger than ever,” Parrilli underlined during a rally he joined in along with Federal Planning Minister Julio de Vido and Neuquén province Governor Jorge Sapag.

Meanwhile, Kirchnerite provincial Deputy Fernando “Chino” Navarro predicted half a million people would join the government-backed celebration.

“We are going to bring our love together with social organizations,” said Navarro, a leader of the Kirchnerite group Movimiento Evita. Navarro promised to bring 70,000 activists himself.

The celebration is being organized by the Bicentennial Unit, the office responsible for the artistic events surrounding the 200th anniversary of the birth of Argentine nationhood in 2010. More than six million people took part in those celebrations, surprising members of the opposition.

The government team plans to replicate this “party climate” again by putting on a series of cultural and musical numbers, including Cuban folk singer Silvio Rodríguez, Argentine rock star Fito Paez and the National Orchestra from Venezuela.

Cristina Fernandez will be the only speaker on Saturday afternoon at the huge stage set up in front of Government House (Casa Rosada) at the iconic Plaza de Mayo in downtown Buenos Aires.

Those invited and not invited, attending and not attending the special guests section at the stage, (plus the pecking order) will also be a clear picture of how Cristina Fernandez administration stands ahead of the coming mid term legislative elections next October when the control of Congress is at stake.

 

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1 Monkeymagic (#) May 25th, 2013 - 06:16 am Report abuse
Old habits die hard...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Rally
2 Pete Bog (#) May 25th, 2013 - 07:25 am Report abuse
“Cristina Fernandez will be the only speaker on Saturday afternoon”

Why does this not surprise?
3 Redrow (#) May 25th, 2013 - 08:20 am Report abuse
Who is Fito Paez? And why would any self-respecting rock “star” perform at a political rally? If he/she does covers then to “celebrate” 10-years of the Kirchners I'd have to go for “I fought the Law” (The Clash), “Heaven knows I'm miserable now” (The Smiths), “It's the end of the world” (REM) or “Always look on the bright side of life”.
4 Faz (#) May 25th, 2013 - 09:51 am Report abuse
It is a characteristjc of dictatorships that they have to hold so called rallies like this with the dictator giving stirring speeches. Civilised nations eschew this sort of thing wheras nutjobs like Rgland persist with it.

The Nazis
North Korea
Iran
Zimbabwe
Cuba

You never see a modern North American or European nation holding such an event, its the sign of what is fast becoming a pariah, failed dictatorship. Rgs are so thick they can't see it.
5 Anbar (#) May 25th, 2013 - 11:02 am Report abuse
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Rally

QFT

what a joke - celebrating the destruction of your own country
6 yankeeboy (#) May 25th, 2013 - 11:11 am Report abuse
Well it was a very good decade for her and her cronies!! The rest of the retards will be paying for this disaster for at least another generation but they're too stupid to realize it.
Peso back to 9
Google can no longer pay app developers in the country and are pulling the service next month.
Max u$50/mo credit card withdrawals allowed
Petrobras shutting down exploration in country
Yay let's party
Idiots
7 Mendoza Canadian (#) May 25th, 2013 - 11:39 am Report abuse
And the National Orchestra of Venezuela??? Of course. Now its ArgiVeneCuba. The socialist paradises of the south. Time to stock up on toilet paper I guess....
8 andy65 (#) May 25th, 2013 - 11:50 am Report abuse
She obviously likes the sound of her own voice.
9 darragh (#) May 25th, 2013 - 12:19 pm Report abuse
Will there be a torchlight rally and Brownshirts singing the Horstwessellied and Bombersaufengland?
10 Falkland Islands (#) May 25th, 2013 - 12:22 pm Report abuse
looks like she can afford 1 gardener he he.
11 Tobers (#) May 25th, 2013 - 01:25 pm Report abuse
Meanwhile 5 yr olds sell socks in confiterias and everyone expects to get mugged sooner or later...etc etc... Well done Argentina.
12 Baxter (#) May 25th, 2013 - 01:27 pm Report abuse
I hope they have a great day . Destroying the offices of Clarin on the agenda ?
13 Tobers (#) May 25th, 2013 - 01:39 pm Report abuse
How self indulgent and offensive to more than half the population who dont agree to their tax money and government being abused by self satisfied politicians/criminals and their weak followers.
14 Chicureo (#) May 25th, 2013 - 02:05 pm Report abuse
www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/d9d24c32-c463-11e2-9ac0-00144feab7de.html#axzz2UGMiGhhl

The Virgin Mary will decend from the heavens and place the highest honor from God himself as the great angelic heros of Argentina applaud with the angels from the clouds above.

Many nations will be present as spectators to welcome Argentina's great leap forward into social progress, including top delegations from the Workers Party of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, the Belorussian Democratic Congress, the Freedom Progressive Democratic Elections Counsel of Equatorial Guinea,the Zimbabwe Fair Goverment League, Cuba's Free Speech Institute and many others... Hail Cristina!
15 yankeeboy (#) May 25th, 2013 - 02:43 pm Report abuse
How stupid do 40mm people have to be not to see they're right back to where they were 40 years ago or maybe under Perons regime without the Nazi gold.
Its so clear to the rest of the world.
But these idiots go from one thug to the next living in a stupor watching generation after generation get poorer and dumber than the one before.
It is sickening
16 manchesterlad (#) May 25th, 2013 - 02:46 pm Report abuse
CFK is essentially using all the power of the state for a political rally, when the distinction between an elected government & the state becomes minimal i.e. control of the central bank, the judiciary & all aspects of the economy........we essentially have a dictatorship!!!
17 Tobers (#) May 25th, 2013 - 02:58 pm Report abuse
Think of all the money and resources they use to stage these self promotional activities that could have been used on worthy causes..
18 Think (#) May 25th, 2013 - 03:10 pm Report abuse
( 7) Mendoza Canadian
You say...:
“Time to stock up on toilet paper I guess....”
I say...:
Time for you to go back to Canada, I hope....

(14) Chicureo
You say...:
“The Virgin Mary will descend from the heavens and place the highest honor from God himself as the great angelic heros of Argentina applaud with the angels from the clouds above. ”
I say...:
I “Think” the plan is for the Virgin Mary AND her Son to descend from the heavens and place the highest honor from God himself onto Cristina.......
19 bushpilot (#) May 25th, 2013 - 03:18 pm Report abuse
Can't wait to hear the speech!
20 Malvinense 1833 (#) May 25th, 2013 - 03:31 pm Report abuse
Fito Páez: argie rock star
www.youtube.com/watch?v=2agKsVsK_d4
21 Chicureo (#) May 25th, 2013 - 04:55 pm Report abuse
#18
Oh please THINK. Don't give away the show secrets...
There are negotiations as well right now for the temporary release of Juan Peron, Evita and Nestor to attend the event as well, but Lucifer is being difficult as usual on terms....
22 reality check (#) May 25th, 2013 - 05:15 pm Report abuse
He wanted Christina to sell him the souls of the nation as collateral they would return, but then the accounting department sent him a memo telling him she had already done that.
23 andy65 (#) May 25th, 2013 - 05:31 pm Report abuse
@ Think You never did say if Nestor's TART would be joining the party he really was a dirty sly old dog wasn't he
24 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) May 25th, 2013 - 05:40 pm Report abuse
Ausländer raus!!
25 ChrisR (#) May 25th, 2013 - 05:41 pm Report abuse
The only sad thing about being an atheist is that if there is no god there is also no devil.

So even The Chief Carrot aka I Don't Think, won't get to spend eternity being shafted up the arse while his balls are set on fire.

Pity that.
26 Chicureo (#) May 25th, 2013 - 05:53 pm Report abuse
#24
You have no idea what that means as far as your arse goes...
...or you'd realize we plan to interrogate you prior to a one way sightseeing helicopter excursion over the water....
27 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) May 25th, 2013 - 05:54 pm Report abuse
Étrangers dehors!!
28 Think (#) May 25th, 2013 - 06:32 pm Report abuse
(19) Turnip bushpilot at (19) says.....:
“Can't wait to hear the speech!”

I say.....:
Doesn’t this Anglo Turnip know that today is the Meisterschaft Liga Finale in Wembleyburg Stadion between Bayern München und Borussia Dortmund…???
And he wants to hear a Woman talk....???

What a Turnip!
29 slattzzz (#) May 25th, 2013 - 06:33 pm Report abuse
@18 Stink says
Time for you to go back to Canada, I hope....
I say well he might bump into you then, go home to rgenweener you loser, stop hiding
30 bushpilot (#) May 25th, 2013 - 07:04 pm Report abuse
@28 I'd like to watch that game too.

But I'm really looking forward to hearing CFK's speech. I hope Mercopress posts all of it.

Is it going to be a long speech?
31 Joe Bloggs (#) May 25th, 2013 - 07:12 pm Report abuse
Who would dare not to turn up for the shambles if 'invited' by one of the 'social organisations?'
32 ioroman (#) May 25th, 2013 - 07:26 pm Report abuse
Greeting lamenting crowd. The celebration of many is always the sorrow of some. Get your tissue (or toilet paper as you have so much of it) because Cristina, Nicolas, Evo, Jose, Rafael, Dilma, Daniel, etc. are here to stay. Good day.
33 slattzzz (#) May 25th, 2013 - 07:27 pm Report abuse
@28 stink says
Doesn’t this Anglo Turnip know that today is the Meisterschaft Liga Finale in Wembleyburg Stadion between Bayern München und Borussia Dortmund…???
And he wants to hear a Woman talk....???
I say THINK of the millions of pounds the Germans are spending in London
34 andy65 (#) May 25th, 2013 - 07:51 pm Report abuse
@Think Your not one of those so called deprived immigrants that have been rioting in Sweden are you? you sound like the type bitter and twisted
35 slattzzz (#) May 25th, 2013 - 08:04 pm Report abuse
@34 no way mate he's down the legion in Dover with the other numpty doddery over dover
36 Think (#) May 25th, 2013 - 08:14 pm Report abuse
Señores y Señoras.....:

Silvio Rortiguez!

tn.com.ar/envivo/24hs
37 slattzzz (#) May 25th, 2013 - 08:27 pm Report abuse
Stink says
Señores y Señoras.....:
Silvio Rortiguez!
I say so what stop changing the subject loser, go to rgenweener pay some taxes and stop hiding
38 Captain Poppy (#) May 25th, 2013 - 08:57 pm Report abuse
Yankee I think blaming 40mm in Argentina for allowing her to go one is tantamount to blaming everyone, all 317 million in the USA for Obamacare and Obama being in office........just my thought.
How sad this event is....even if she had accomplished good for Argentina, what kind of an individual throws a party for themselves and their so called accomplishment?
Perhaps she can start by celebrating the rift between Argentina and Brazil,
the 60 WTO trade complaints from numerous countries,
the inflation rate of 30%, the real value of the peso,
the capital flight of big business,
the outlawing of owning foreign currency,
the elimination of the freedom of the press,
the taking control of the judiciary,

But not everything was taken away. Government control has prospered and flourished,
Government corruption increased exponentially,
Crime has increased,
The Kirchner youth corps is out in full force,
Imports of fuel has increased,

Yes there is much to celebrate. They really should be partying with Venezuela.....but too many people in one place could create a shitstorm and limited supplies of toilet.....could be disasterous.
39 Marcos Alejandro (#) May 25th, 2013 - 09:20 pm Report abuse
37 slattzzz
So you don't like to watch Silvio Rodriguez nor our May Revolution Day celebrations(May 25 1810)?
You are free to watch the BARBARIC May beheading of a British soldier on a London street in broad daylight 200 yards from the Royal Artillery Barracks.
40 reality check (#) May 25th, 2013 - 09:37 pm Report abuse
Wondered how long it would take this sicko to start on that, probably watched the thing over and over again, getting off on it no doubt.
41 golfcronie (#) May 25th, 2013 - 09:42 pm Report abuse
@39
Marcos, you are one sick person. Do you not have anything intelligent to say?
42 slattzzz (#) May 25th, 2013 - 09:47 pm Report abuse
@39 I wondered how long it would take your sick fooked up mind to bring that up whilst you've just caught up with the news from wherever you are (not rgenweener) as we all know. I have never watched anything to do with Silvio rodriguez or your May day celebrations, why should I you dipstick they interest me not a jot, are they part of MY or my COUNTRIES history NO so fuck off you sick twat if all you've got is to resort to the barbaric murder of a hero you are lower than I thought in fact you are shit on my shoe. And by the way MA why don't you fook of back to rgenweener instead of hiding in Canada you sad prick, by Christ I'd love to meet you mate
43 Marcos Alejandro (#) May 25th, 2013 - 09:50 pm Report abuse
40 RC
I am not English nor I enjoyed watching that video nor I enjoyed the story of a drunk English soldier stabbing of a 10 year old boy in Afghanistan.
Let me remind you also that the MI5 tried to recruit the Woolwich killer not us.
44 slattzzz (#) May 25th, 2013 - 10:09 pm Report abuse
@43 says who the press? no a sympathiser who has since been arrested on anti terrorist charges soon as he walked out of the BBC. I suppose you think the stabbing of a soldier in France by a Muslim is justified as well because they are in Afghan as well, lets face it you watched that video over and over whilst pulling you little penis with a pair of tweezers, good to gob off but short on bollocks to do fook all about it, lets face it you couldn't fight your way out of a paper bag, you are a coward and a shit for even mentioning the events of Woolwich on here if you had a brain you'd be dangerous, but that isn't going to happen, now fook off and celebrate CFK dragging rgenweener down the tubes if that's what you want, even better go there instead of hiding away. COWARD !!!!!
45 reality check (#) May 25th, 2013 - 10:11 pm Report abuse
Let me remind you that's what intelligence agencies do, it's called turning, where do you think they get their information from? Amnesty Ferkin International.
Jesus Christ, some story, an intelligence service trying to turn a radical, whatever next? Bugging their homes, following them, photographing them! How shocking!!!!!
46 slattzzz (#) May 25th, 2013 - 10:15 pm Report abuse
Hey Marcos enjoy your celebrations, oh sorry you won't be there will you?
47 Marcos Alejandro (#) May 25th, 2013 - 10:20 pm Report abuse
42 slattzzz
Canada? I thought that I live in England lol

“by Christ I'd love to meet you mate”
By all means, fly to Ezeiza and then head to Constitución railway station about midnight, take the train south to Provincia de Buenos Aires, you will see many English built station on the way so you will feel right at home.
Keep in mind that the Englishmen loved to meet us in our mainland on several occasions(uninvited of course) in the past(didn't go very well for them), let me know when you are coming.
48 reality check (#) May 25th, 2013 - 10:34 pm Report abuse
Love it how you lot brag on and on about something that happened between us and the Spanish, two centuries ago.

What's the matter, can't you find something a little more contemporary, I'll settle for the last century.

Whoops, nothing there either.

By the way, you had two months notice last time, much good did you though, no where to run.
49 Faz (#) May 25th, 2013 - 10:53 pm Report abuse
Marcos -Rgs know how to retreat, its the Italian part. Enjoy BA Nurenberg and remember what happened to Nazi criminals later. Pot bangers will be in attendance.
50 Malvinense 1833 (#) May 25th, 2013 - 11:11 pm Report abuse
The party continued. Music for friends islanders.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrmsWYcWQdQ
51 British_Kirchnerist (#) May 25th, 2013 - 11:38 pm Report abuse
Wish I was there, sending my solidarity to Cristinita and her comrades in the Plaza from far away Scotland =) Here's to the next 10 years! And hopefully one day Britain may have a “won decade” of our own... Viva Cristina!
52 Captain Poppy (#) May 26th, 2013 - 01:20 am Report abuse
#50 too bad you can only beg and cry the Falklands are your's but can and will never posses them. They are Falklander's through and through aligned with the Brits.
53 Ayayay (#) May 26th, 2013 - 01:46 am Report abuse
@4, @6 @17- good points.
54 Stevie (#) May 26th, 2013 - 04:44 am Report abuse
Using Clarin standard measuring methods, rumours say there were some 2 M people.

In Casa Rosada only...

Who knows how many attended the fiesta popular...
55 Think (#) May 26th, 2013 - 05:09 am Report abuse
TWIMC

I can see that Anglo Turnips at (3), (4), (5), (7), (8), (9), (10), (11), (12), (13), (15), (16), (17) etc, etc, etc…..... are expressing their deep concern about the costs and implications of such a “Massive Celebration”.

I say….:
They shouldn't be so harsh with the old Queen!
3.5 Billion £ for celebrating ones Queen in a time of crisis must surely be well spent money.....
www.gov.uk/government/publications/2012-diamond-jubilee-extra-bank-holiday-impact-assessment
56 RICO (#) May 26th, 2013 - 05:40 am Report abuse
@55 Thik - Average argentine income $11k per year, Average UK income $39k per year.

1.5% of Argentine population live on less than $400 per year. 1% of UK population live on less than $12,000 per year.

Yes let's celebrate Argentinas successful decade and laugh at those foolish Brits wasting money in a time of crisis, at least Argentina knows with the printing presses printing Pesos there is no chance of a shortage of toilet paper.
57 Captain Poppy (#) May 26th, 2013 - 06:28 am Report abuse
stephen....you're a riot.......lol
58 Think (#) May 26th, 2013 - 06:32 am Report abuse
Turnip at (56)

No shit, Sherlock….!!!
Did you really find out that Argentina is poorer than England....????

Maybe that's why the “Massive Celebration” was hold on a sunny Saturday afternoon ?
Maybe that's why the all the artists participating in the “Massive Celebration” did so for free ?
Maybe that’s why the only costs incurred for that “Massive Celebration” were some “choripanes” & refreshments and the diesel for the buses that transported the humble people back and forth….......?

No Bank Holidays, like in England.
No Royal Yachts, like in England.
No River Pageants, like in England.
No Gold Medals for selected subjects, like in England.
No “Additional Provisions for the Royal Household”, like in England.
No Local Councils Celebrations, like in England.
No State Barges Glorianas, like in England.
Not even some Stained Glass, like in England……

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/interactive-graphics/9197527/Queens-Diamond-Jubilee-cost-of-the-celebrations.html

Brainwash anybody?
59 Troy Tempest (#) May 26th, 2013 - 06:39 am Report abuse
58thinkedover

...no gracious and benevolent Monarch for 60 years.
60 Think (#) May 26th, 2013 - 07:15 am Report abuse
TWIMC

Fact is that half of the English turnips in here express their concerned about the costs of a cheap & popular Saturday evening get together in Buenos Aires.....
........Whilst they just burned 3,6 BILLION £ on a London party for Good Ol' Lizzie....

Brainwash anybody?
61 reality check (#) May 26th, 2013 - 07:38 am Report abuse
Envy!!! Anybody?
62 Stevie (#) May 26th, 2013 - 07:40 am Report abuse
It's ok to be envious, reality.
If I were you, I would be envious too...
63 reality check (#) May 26th, 2013 - 07:47 am Report abuse
Thankful maybe, envious definitely not.
64 Redrow (#) May 26th, 2013 - 08:23 am Report abuse
@ Think

The Queen is the head of state and is apolitical.
However, if Cameron or Miliband i.e. the ones facing election, used state funds to hold a “look how great I am” party then yes that would be the precise equivalent. But they don't. For political events they must use the funds of their own party.
65 Monkeymagic (#) May 26th, 2013 - 08:26 am Report abuse
It is good to see that Think can't see the difference between a political rally and a state event. He “thinks” exactly the doctrine that Cretina wants him to.

The actions of the Kirchnerite Government = Argentina
Don't support the Actions of the Kirchnerite Government = Unpatriotic to Argentina
Don't “LOVE” the Kirchnerite socio-economic model = Don't “love” Argentina

poor Thunk.
66 Stevie (#) May 26th, 2013 - 08:33 am Report abuse
Redrow
So your queen is nothing but a valid excuse to waste peoples tax money?

Keep it up!

Hahahaha
67 Think (#) May 26th, 2013 - 08:46 am Report abuse
Turnip at (64)
Nothing is APOLITICAL......
Not Politics
Nor Religion
Not the Media
Nor the Economy
Not the Military
Nor the Sports
Not even Entretainment.......
And certainly not the English German Royal Family...

Besides; assuming, even for a short second, that them German Royals were “Apolitical”.........
Does their “Entretainment Value” justify the burning of 3,6 Billion £ on a weeks party on their honour?

PS:
The funds used for Saturday's political event in Buenos Aires came from the Party coffers and their allied Trade Unions coffers.....
The funds used for Saturday's celebration of the 25'th of May Independence Day came from the State coffers.......

Please inform yourself.....
68 Bryzi (#) May 26th, 2013 - 09:01 am Report abuse
Anyway, who cares where the money comes from. Not our problem really and we often spend silly amounts on questionable events too.

I'd be more interested to see the definition of a “decade lost” if this was a “decade won” :)
69 Redrow (#) May 26th, 2013 - 09:02 am Report abuse
@67

In that case why are you banging on about the Queen? If CDK is paying for her own party then she can do what she likes.

The rest of your post is sub-6th form rant.
Picking your nose is political
Choosing your pants is political
yes whatever.
70 Think (#) May 26th, 2013 - 09:29 am Report abuse
Turnip at (69)

Correct.......
Picking your nose can be quite political, depending of your pick of finger.
Choosing your pants can be distinctly political too…
msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/130312-falklands2-4a.380;380;7;70;0.jpg
71 Xect (#) May 26th, 2013 - 09:39 am Report abuse
Think is showing a very high level of desperation in here trying to muddy the waters with the topic in hand.

Does anyone from Argentina (excluding BK the wannabe Scott) really think its a decade won? And when your country is quite literally on its knees having a rally like this? It's so inappropriate and ridiculous on so many levels you'd have to be unconnected to reality to think its suitable, reasonable or decent.

And before you answer if your only answer is to try to argue something about the UK don't bother. This isn't about the UK, its about the topic in hand. It's extremely weak to keep trying to deflect attention.
72 CaptainSilver (#) May 26th, 2013 - 09:42 am Report abuse
Stink. KFCs party, headline news.....not. Didnt make the papers anywhere....non event. Sad place Rgland, failed states.
73 Xect (#) May 26th, 2013 - 09:46 am Report abuse
The news reported they are trying to make a football match kick off later so more people will watch the 'decade lost' speech.

www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d9d24c32-c463-11e2-9ac0-00144feab7de.html#axzz2UOFr9rKs
74 Faz (#) May 26th, 2013 - 09:53 am Report abuse
Swede. #70. Been having a riot have we? The racist element must make you feel right at home the way you treat those Indians. m.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/25/sweden-europe-news
75 Joe Bloggs (#) May 26th, 2013 - 10:02 am Report abuse
Attention of Malvinista Deadbeats. Have any of you heard, from any of your sources in Argentina, how many people attended the shambles party? Surely you all know. I mean you must at least know people who live in Argentina.

Come on Think. What about you? You must know SOMEBODY who lives in Argentina. The way you carry on about it, I mean. How many people went to your crooked queen's little party?

Or maybe Marcos knows someone in Argentina who can tell HIM.

Chuckle chuckle.
76 Think (#) May 26th, 2013 - 10:26 am Report abuse
(75) Joe Bloggs

You politely ask...:
“Think. What about you? ........I mean..... How many people went to your democratically elected President's party?

I respond....:
Depends of what parameters you use, dear Kelper Joe...........
Using MercoPress's or Clarin's ”Unusual parameters”; at least 45 million people.............

Judging by the TV pictures and usufructing from my own humble experience on Buenos Aires and Plaza de Mayo demostrations, I would say....... some 200 to 250,000 persons were there enjoying their Saturday eveining in peace and civility.
77 Frank (#) May 26th, 2013 - 10:38 am Report abuse
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XJkJHcfB4g hardly looks like much more than a 'gathering'... I think thicko's figure of 200 is close to the mark.....
78 ElaineB (#) May 26th, 2013 - 11:01 am Report abuse
It looked like families out for a bit of free music, not at all a hard-line political rally. I guess that is positive.

That croaky voice makes CFK sound pretty desperate. Maybe they should have cut her speech by an hour or so.
79 darragh (#) May 26th, 2013 - 11:30 am Report abuse
Funny old things Argie trolls

In 1982 250,000 celebrated the invasion of the Falklands in the Plaza de Mayo - now they say that nobody in Argentina supported it.

Today they claim 250,000 celebrated the lost decade in the Plaza de Mayo.

So using their undeniable logic you have to assume that this 250,000 don't support KFC in the same way that they didn't support Argentine imperialism
80 Stevie (#) May 26th, 2013 - 11:30 am Report abuse
Every day you lot have a go at Argentina.
For having a party.
For demonstrations on the streets.
For inflation.
For the way CFK dresses.
For the weather.
For the sake to make your own miserable days meaningful.

Then you call CFK desperate...
81 Xect (#) May 26th, 2013 - 12:15 pm Report abuse
Nice logic there Stevie, so criticizing someone makes you desperate now.

And then you badly attempt to tar everyone with the same brush and claim everyone is miserable.

Not a very cohesive/logical/reasonable (insert pretty much anything here since its so very weak) argument...
82 ElaineB (#) May 26th, 2013 - 12:21 pm Report abuse
Most of the reports seems to refer to thousands rather than hundreds of thousands. But CFK certainly enjoyed herself rocking out to the music. (She really cannot dance).

Did anyone see the pictures of Not-So-Fat Max? He seems to be slimming down. Good for his health.
83 Anglotino (#) May 26th, 2013 - 12:21 pm Report abuse
Has the rally been held?

Not a single news report! The Falkland Islands referendum was more reported than this. If I hadn't seen the YouTube video I wouldn't have believed it. Can anyone point me to a time stamp that shows a nice view of the crowd that isn't a close up?

As CFK always sounded like a man? I've never heard her before.
84 trenchtoast (#) May 26th, 2013 - 12:35 pm Report abuse
Chrissy, you stole my moves !

www.clarin.com/politica/Cristina_Kirchner-acto_25_de_mayo-Plaza_de_Mayo_3_925737435.html
85 Heisenbergcontext (#) May 26th, 2013 - 01:16 pm Report abuse
Oh to be a comedian in the great nation of Argentina, the satirical possibilities are endless. You'd never be short of material.
86 commonsparrow (#) May 26th, 2013 - 01:17 pm Report abuse
I'm very surprised that the Chief of Staff of a sovereign nation would make comments like this, to make the President feel better.... lets party.......
87 bushpilot (#) May 26th, 2013 - 01:32 pm Report abuse
@82

“Did anyone see the pictures of Not-So-Fat Max? He seems to be slimming down. Good for his health.”

He is going to run for president, isn't he?
88 Tobers (#) May 26th, 2013 - 01:47 pm Report abuse
@Think

I agree. I'm not a monarchist. Also the invasion of Iraq was immoral and illegal. Tony Blair is evil. Que mas...? Does that disqualify my statements that this self promotion party was wrong and the money could have been spent on good causes?

@Elaine B - she really does look and sound like a man in drag, no?

She has that whiny, weary tone that she deliberately uses to emphasize 'the struggle but unbroken spirit of the defiant leader heading the revolution'

Then she has the 'just call me Crissy' stage manner where she uses pub language and talks about her dogs.

re her dancing - Was she pouting and doing a variation of the funky chicken with fist pumping?

Interesting to see how many identical flags there were. Take away the Campora and free stuff and how many people would have turned up...?
89 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) May 26th, 2013 - 01:51 pm Report abuse
The important thing here is not the rally or what the loser foreigners believe.

What's important is Argentina keeps sticking the middle finer to the entire planet, even Mercosur and its neighbors. If only to keep pissing them off that Argentina can be so arrogant to believe not one single country on this Earth has any relevance to us. I love it.
90 andy65 (#) May 26th, 2013 - 01:59 pm Report abuse
The bigger party is yet to come when the old botox queen leaves office Argentines will be dancing in the streets ........ NAKED
91 Captain Poppy (#) May 26th, 2013 - 02:05 pm Report abuse
tobi boi go home to that shithole dump called mendoza and suckle on you mommas teat...........this time it is you in need of it. The stupid things that come out of you when you miss your lactose is just unbelievable. It it beyond comical that everything you type here.........your government and the kirchnerites do the entire opposite........you must be a walking and talking moronic joke. His it because of your lack of formal education or because of formal RG education? Perhaps it is becuase to too mush mommas lactose?

Kirchner's new “pledge of Allegiance”

“I swear by God this sacred oath that to the Leader of the Peronist , Asslips Kirchner, supreme commander of all things Argentine, all things contrary to the democratic way of life, I shall render unconditional obedience and that as a brave soldier in the Order of La Campora I shall at all times be prepared to give my life for this oath.”

Yesterday was nothing more than asslip's version of hitler's rally at Nuremberg. Amazing at the parallels of her and hitler.
92 reality check (#) May 26th, 2013 - 02:07 pm Report abuse
Nice analogy the finger.

Last time they gave it too us, we cut it off and inserted it in a dark, wet, hot, smelly, Argentine orifice.

What a cracking day here in East Anglian, just come in from sorting the garden,
Putting in some bedding plants, hope you are all having a nice one too.

Time for a cold beer! Ireland's gift to the world I think.
93 andy65 (#) May 26th, 2013 - 02:10 pm Report abuse
OK lets be honest here Cristina Kirchner is nothing but a ruff old bird just look at her no taste no class nothing,Argentines should send her to The UK so she can take some lessons from The Dutchess Of Cambridge.
94 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) May 26th, 2013 - 02:25 pm Report abuse
@92

Oh please you are getting multiple middle fingers from us by our actions on the debt, the Faklands, and your ships, and all you do is sit and take it. Like the rest of the world.
95 reality check (#) May 26th, 2013 - 02:51 pm Report abuse
Yep, just like we did all those years ago, just sat back and took it, which is obviously why your flag has been flying over Los Islas Malvinas all these years.

How long did it take to get a Fleet to sea? Three days was it? Now that's what I call rolling over and taking it. Damn lucky, to use an American expression, we could have got “pissed” and fought back. Lord alone knows what could have happened then, shit! You might even have been comprehensively and embarrassingly defeated.

You are very good at giving the finger, all ten ten of them, pointed skywards at the end of your arms.
96 Stevie (#) May 26th, 2013 - 02:51 pm Report abuse
93
Oh, she's much more than that.
She's the very reason you lot have a life, even if it's virtual and little productive...
97 ElaineB (#) May 26th, 2013 - 02:54 pm Report abuse
And that is about all you can do. Wiggle your fingers. It does not make the debt go away, or the rampant inflation, or the erosion of your democracy, or the assault on your free press and judiciary. Nor does is stop the fear Argentines have of the growing crime rate. Fear is the prevailing emotion in Buenos Aires.

The rest of the world is sitting back because there is nothing it can do to save Argentina. Even your close neighbours have given up.
98 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) May 26th, 2013 - 02:57 pm Report abuse
The debt IS gone, inflation can be controlled at will, and at least there is democracy here to be eroded (you have none left). There can't be an assault on the free press in the UK since it's never actually had one ( a competent world respected one that is... for rags and tabloids you are #1).

Your melodramatics would suggest you are on the rule, but given your venerable qualities that “rules” it out.

@95

How did Suez go for you? Iraq? Afghanistan? defeat after defeat after defeat.
99 Stevie (#) May 26th, 2013 - 02:58 pm Report abuse
Elaine
Ridiculous debt.
Rampant inflation (does no wages whatsoever count?)
Erosion of democracy.
Assault on free press and judiciary.
Crime rate.

...

I could swear you are talking about Europe..
100 reality check (#) May 26th, 2013 - 03:01 pm Report abuse
Hande hoch Diego!
101 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) May 26th, 2013 - 03:06 pm Report abuse
@100

Allahu Akbar, Nigel, Ian, François, Jean-Paul, Klaus, Andreas, Beppe, Mario...

Do you feel safe in your streets in Europe? They are coming.
102 Captain Poppy (#) May 26th, 2013 - 03:13 pm Report abuse
Elaine I give you lots of credit. You interact with these trolls from a POV with logic and they absolutely lack that attribute. I cannot say positively for sure about stephen, but tobi boi has never experienced freedom so he attempts (feebly I would add) to argue from his perspective of freedom and democracy is.
It really comes down to actions speak louder then these androids. More so is that the actions of their governments are the total opposite of their words. I will believe they are flipping the bird when they stop asking the IMF for money, when they pull out of the WTO, when Argentina pulls out of the G20, they they undoubtedly will be suspended or expelled.
103 reality check (#) May 26th, 2013 - 03:16 pm Report abuse
The Argentines flag is deepest WHITE,
It's shrouded over their martyred dead
And ere their limbs grow stiff and cold,
Their hearts dyed WHITE ever fold.

Then raise the WHITE flag standard high.
Within it's shade they live and die,
Though cowards flee and traitors sneer,
They keep the WHITE flag flag flying there.

Hande Hoch!
104 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) May 26th, 2013 - 03:34 pm Report abuse
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11419878

Fitting intro to this article.
105 Simon68 (#) May 26th, 2013 - 03:36 pm Report abuse
71 Xect (#)
May 26th, 2013 - 09:39 am

You ask:”... Does anyone from Argentina (excluding BK the wannabe Scott) really think its a decade won?“

Absolutely not, it was a ”decade lost”, the kirchnerite plague claim success by comparing today with 2001, but what they don't explain is how we had an economy that grew an average of 9% between 2003 and 2009 and yet we have no foreign reserves, 25% of the population are below the (Argentine) poverty line and the unemployment and under employment rates are climbing fast towards Spanish levels as huge numbers of large AND small companies close their doors!!!!!!!

Not only is it a “lost decade”, we have also raised two generations of lay abouts who do not know the meaning of the work ethic. It is going to take 20 - 30 years to put this country back together again, if we can find a real patriot among the politicians which is a folorne hope!!!!!
106 Xect (#) May 26th, 2013 - 03:39 pm Report abuse
Some of the comments in this thread are truly brilliant, I mean I openly laughed a little about some of them.

Giving the world the middle finger? If you mean your current governments ability to speed up its own economic collapse then yes I agree. It's like a factory owner burning his own factory down and then saying to the tax man 'Ha! Now lets see how much more tax my company pays!'

Argentina, the country that's brilliant at cutting its own nose off to spite its face!
107 Stevie (#) May 26th, 2013 - 03:40 pm Report abuse
Simon
We know you preferred a Latin America that kept the vast majority of its population below the poverty line so the burgoise could live the good life.
Those times are over, son.
Face it.

;)
108 ElaineB (#) May 26th, 2013 - 03:42 pm Report abuse
@102 I kinda like to hear the illogical ramblings. What annoys TTT is that I know he is talking shite and I know the reality in Argentina. But everyone has their place in the world. Even TTT has his place, it just hasn't been dug yet.
109 Pirate Love (#) May 26th, 2013 - 03:45 pm Report abuse
celebration of What exactly? inflation out of control, reserves dwindling, poverty, unemployment,corruption and crime at an all time high, costly daily food basket, democracy fading fast, strikes, protests, power cuts......
......enjoy your party , can you even afford it??
110 Xect (#) May 26th, 2013 - 03:45 pm Report abuse
Thanks for the response Simon, its on par with what any logical person may think after reviewing the country.

Toby, terrible attempt to distract with more unrelated news items.
111 Stevie (#) May 26th, 2013 - 03:46 pm Report abuse
Elaine
Do you know the reality in Europe, or do you just pretend nothing is happening?
And if you do, why do you have a go at Argentina? They are doing much better than any European nation at the moment...
Heck, even Stockholm is rioting, not to mention open executions in the streets of UK...
112 Simon68 (#) May 26th, 2013 - 03:47 pm Report abuse
107 Stevie (#)
May 26th, 2013 - 03:40 pm

I have never “preferred a Latin America that kept the vast majority of its population below the poverty line”, and I'm certainly not your “son” as I'm probably 60 odd years older than you are.

Aside from the utter stupidity of your comment, the only way for the poor to be able to move out of poverty is by having a dignified job which allows them the chance at social mobility. All CFK and her rabble are doing is putting the companies that could provide employment out of business so that the people stay poor and depend on government handouts!!!!!!!
113 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) May 26th, 2013 - 03:51 pm Report abuse
@106

If that is what it takes yes. It's called principle. Sometimes you have to die, or destroy your possessions. That is certainly better than allowing the enemy to get what he wants. Between life and death life is better, but between life losing it all and death destroying it all, the latter is better.
114 Stevie (#) May 26th, 2013 - 03:51 pm Report abuse
Simon
You mean like the previous governments have been doing for the past 180 years?
115 Simon68 (#) May 26th, 2013 - 03:54 pm Report abuse
114 Stevie (#)
May 26th, 2013 - 03:51 pm

Like the governments of Uruguay, Paraguay, Chile, Peru, Colombia and Mexico are doing right now!!!!!!
116 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) May 26th, 2013 - 03:58 pm Report abuse
There has been a study that showed that Chile “masks” their poverty rate, it should be 5-7% higher. Also, it also showed that millions more are one recession away from poverty. The only reason they are not, and I will give credit here, is that Chile has not suffered a violent recession in over a decade. But once it does, it will have poverty jumping at least 10% points very quickly.

This after 40 years of Miltonomics.

Don't bring me Peru, Mexico, and Paraguay, their poverty rates and their “quality” of poverty are far worse anything in Argentina.
117 Stevie (#) May 26th, 2013 - 03:59 pm Report abuse
In Uruguay we have old burgoises stating the same foolishness as you are doing here, that the state is offering “handouts” to get rid of poverty...
Seems it depends on the wind, doesn't it?
118 andy65 (#) May 26th, 2013 - 04:03 pm Report abuse
Are there any links that show footage of kirchner at her party especially dancing I could do with a good laugh-were you there TroLLey_to_Truth by any chance
119 Xect (#) May 26th, 2013 - 04:10 pm Report abuse
Andy, see post 84.
120 ElaineB (#) May 26th, 2013 - 04:17 pm Report abuse
@111 How many times? This discussion thread is about Argentina. It really is not a difficult concept to grasp.

@113 Drama queen. If you died tomorrow only a handful of people would remember you ( and that is including me) because, as you have said many times, you don't date or socialise. Yours death would not be for 'the cause' because no one would know about it and it would not change the decline in Argentina or anyone's opinion.

If you genuinely want to make a difference, get an education, learn some social skills, get elected and do something useful.

@118 Clip at 84.
121 Stevie (#) May 26th, 2013 - 04:22 pm Report abuse
120
Don't criticize Argentina when your own nation(s) are in even deeper shite than those you are criticizing. How difficult is THAT to grasp?
And don't come up with the Falklands, that is merely an extension of Britain, the place that offers public executions on the streets...
122 wangito (#) May 26th, 2013 - 04:23 pm Report abuse
9 darragh (#)
No. More likely, with her new boyfriend, Ahmedinejad she will cry out loud..“Allah-Hu-Akbar”!!!
123 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) May 26th, 2013 - 04:25 pm Report abuse
I was not talking about me, I was talking about society (argentine society) in general. If the country has to be destroyed in order not to fall int your anglo and euro/american/sino thumb, then that is what will happen.
124 ElaineB (#) May 26th, 2013 - 04:25 pm Report abuse
@121 Don't be such a thin-skinned baby. This is a discussion board that primarily features Argentina and I will continue to comment whenever I wish. Man up.
125 Stevie (#) May 26th, 2013 - 04:28 pm Report abuse
124
Good, so will I, whenever I wish and whatever I wish to comment on. Who are you to tell me what to type anyway?
126 Xect (#) May 26th, 2013 - 04:29 pm Report abuse
The truth of it is Toby, when Argentina finishes with its latest collapse it will be right in the hands of those Western countries you love to hate.

Not only will the only way to recovery be by Western companies but Western companies will be the ones investing in your country and have it economically by the scruff of its neck.

All Argentina is doing by reneging on its own agreements is making it easier for the above to happen.
127 reality check (#) May 26th, 2013 - 04:30 pm Report abuse
Andy, she was wearing a nice little black number. Not adverse to a stroll around the dance floor with a lady dressed like that, late at night with a few under my belt of course. Double bag job!

@104TTT
That would be the same American General that said we could not sail 8500 miles and retake the islands, would it?
Americans have more Generals than we have Corporals, mind you Norman “Storming” Schwarzkopf, now. there was a General!
Corporal Jones, now that was a Corporal!
128 Malvinense 1833 (#) May 26th, 2013 - 04:41 pm Report abuse
Know your history.
The first national government considers the Malvinas “as a navigating vessel.”
May 30, 1810.
www.mrecic.gov.ar/userfiles/10-marcelo_luis_vernet.pdf
129 reality check (#) May 26th, 2013 - 05:11 pm Report abuse
Is it right that Christina displayed flag number 6 from 1966 Operation Condor?

Why didn't she display a flag from 1982?

I suppose the reason is, they are all hanging on the walls of Royal Marine and British Army Messes.

Just a thought.
130 andy65 (#) May 26th, 2013 - 05:30 pm Report abuse
TroLLey_to_Truth @Stevie just saw the video of Crissy dancing ARE YOU NOT ASHAMED OR EMBARRASSED?? LOL what a joke and still wearing black does this woman ever change?? it was obvious it was a no expense spared occasion you only have to look at the firework display all 6 of them to see that definitely something no cool about a an old woman trying to create dance moves of a 16 year old,this old bird as no taste no class nothing .
131 reality check (#) May 26th, 2013 - 05:39 pm Report abuse
Did she make a long speech? if so, can anyone give me a tranlated link?

After the C24 speech, this one, using American jargon, must have been a doozy!

Seriously like to hear what she had to say.
132 Clyde15 (#) May 26th, 2013 - 05:40 pm Report abuse
#128
Perhaps you could translate the 25 pages of Spanish into English - this IS supposed to be a site for posting in English.
I can't be bothered sitting with a Spanish grammar and dictionary
for the next week, trying to translate it!
133 bushpilot (#) May 26th, 2013 - 05:56 pm Report abuse
I'd like to see CFK's speech too.

It will be very interesting to see what she has to say about the successes of 10 years of “inclusion” economics & the “revolution”. It will be very entertaining too, I admit.

Does anyone have a link, even in spanish would be olrite.
134 reality check (#) May 26th, 2013 - 06:04 pm Report abuse
True, even google translate could not cock it up.
135 briton (#) May 26th, 2013 - 06:42 pm Report abuse
Only a failed dictatorship celebrates its time in office with a party,

Nothing better to get the plebs in tune ready for the next fixed referendum.

Still
The longer she remains, the quicker argentina becomes a nothing state..

.
136 Stevie (#) May 26th, 2013 - 06:45 pm Report abuse
andy
Imagine Cristina sending Argentine troops to invade a sovereign nation based on a lie in order to steal that countrys resources.
Now THAT would embarrass me lot more than a woman dancing...
And no, the islands are NOT a sovereign nation, but merely a Brit colony, although I do think Galtieri was embarrassing indeed.
137 reality check (#) May 26th, 2013 - 06:58 pm Report abuse
Stevie.

Now that is where we disagree.

Okay, say I give you your point. What would you do with the so called colonists.
Bearing in mind their previous experiences of their liberators and the the well documented behaviour of their liberators abuses.

Tell me? what would you do with the so called colonists? also bearing in mind the majority have lived there for as long as Argentina has existed.

I would be interested to know how they should be treated?
138 Troy Tempest (#) May 26th, 2013 - 07:04 pm Report abuse
@113 Toby Tit Tugger

“If that is what it takes yes. It's called principle. Sometimes you have to die, or destroy your possessions. That is certainly better than allowing the enemy to get what he wants. Between life and death life is better, but between life losing it all and death destroying it all, the latter is better.”

One of your stupidest comments ever.
Your “scorched earth” policy might be viable strategy, like in the USSR, if you had somewhere to retreat to.
However, in economic terms, you don't. Argentina has retreated to the edge of a cliff - therefore you starve.

You don't seem to have any appreciation of the poverty and hardship that the population of Argentina faces on behalf of its corrupt government.

Perhaps you don't think it will impact you.
La Campora will be useful stooges until push comes to shove, and they are discarded.

Maybe you don't think that will happen to someone as clever as you?
Or maybe you don't live in Mendoza afterall, and have no stake in the future of Argentina?

Either way, I don't know how you can be proud of your convictions and (lack of ) values.
139 Chicureo (#) May 26th, 2013 - 07:05 pm Report abuse
#116
TrollArse
So you want to drag Chile into this argument? Ok, fine.

According to international independent statistics, Chile  poverty rate should be at 15% instead of the official 14.4% reported. (15% was the rate under our former and future socialist president.). You can read how the Chilean government calculates the poverty level, and before you start criticizing it, you should know it was designed by the socialist administration of Ricardo Lagos, and seems to reflect reality. (Yes, in progressive Chile, we have a lot of poor.)

...Meanwhile across the Andes, our neighbors use something less than reality to report ridiculously low poverty rates...

SIX Argentine pesos according to the CFK government, is more than sufficient to buy an entire day’s food... Yes, in the land of mysterious inflation and bizarre currency policies, INDEC, the Argentine national statistics agency, says that a family of four should be considered above the poverty line if its monthly food bill exceeds  688 pesos, equal to about six pesos per person per day.

Another stupid asinine statement on you part: “This after 40 years of Miltonomics. ” What do you suggest  instead? After 40 years of Peronist economic policies?  

Finally, despite all their internal problems and serious poverty; Peru, Mexico, and Paraguay have shown in the past decade far better improvement overall in reducing their poverty rates, encouraging tremendous international investment and vastly improving their economic growth.    ¿¿¿Argentina???

#136 (Guzz)
YOUR theiving countrymen tried to steal by force Chilean territory in 1978. Your country has no honor, no integrity and certainly no respect from most of the world.
140 Monkeymagic (#) May 26th, 2013 - 07:07 pm Report abuse
Stevie

Now in your imagination...

If Cristina liberated a foreign country from a dictator who used chemical weapons against his own people, then ensured a peaceful transition to a democratically elected government for that country, who could then award resource licences to whomever they so chose....

Yes, I'd be embarrassed and retract nearly all of my criticism of her...but of course Argentina would invade, use the civilians as a human shield whilst ensuring all resources became the property of Argentina.

There's the difference Stevie...

By the way loved your comment that Argentina was “better off than western Europe”... Fuck your thick!
141 briton (#) May 26th, 2013 - 07:10 pm Report abuse
140
agreed, lol.
142 reality check (#) May 26th, 2013 - 07:24 pm Report abuse
Chicureo.
Ignore his envy mate, every normal person who reads these posts knows full well that the Argentines are jealous of the Chileans, they have failed to achieve what you guys have and miss no opportunity to show their envy.

Hey, who thinks I am pro Chilean, damn right, I remember who our friends and were and believe that their friendship should be returned in kind.

That's what friends do, bet the RG's will not like that! BWGAF.
143 Stevie (#) May 26th, 2013 - 07:26 pm Report abuse
140
You lot left a mess in Iraq, there is NO democracy and NO peaceful transition whatsoever. There are daily bombings and a sad amount of vultures making a profit of the natural resources of that abused nation.
From (re)building contracts to cheap oil contracts and the casual looting of Saddams stolen money. But hey, to steal from a thief is ok, isn't it?

And now when the mission is accomplished (read oil contracts are signed), you lot are trying to find a way out of the mess, leaving the Iraqi people in worse conditions than that bastard Hussein ever managed to, with the exception of the Kurds. Add the fact that you lot bombed them some 200 years back in time.
Saddam was a son of a dog indeed, you lot are bloody worse.
144 ElaineB (#) May 26th, 2013 - 07:41 pm Report abuse
@143 What is your obsession with Iraq? This article is about CFK celebrating 10 years of lining her pockets at the expense of every. single. Argentine. not in her gang. Your answer to that embarrassing situation is to cite Iraq as being worse?

CFK spent a portion of her speech talking about her being 'eternal' (she wishes) and blaming all the problems on anyone but herself. I am sure historians will look at the video of the crazy lady dancing in widow's weeds as a perfect vignette of how she ran the country.
145 reality check (#) May 26th, 2013 - 07:41 pm Report abuse
The man was a threat, now he is dead and his system destroyed. Mission acccomplished.
146 Monkeymagic (#) May 26th, 2013 - 07:41 pm Report abuse
Stevie

Only in your fantasies, 11 million people chose the current government, which is 11 million more than got to chose Saddam.

By any sane measure far more of the nations oil profits are making their way to the Iraqi population and the GDP per capita is rising.

Of course we got out as soon as the mission was accomplished (read, Iraqis were able to maintain rule of law and were trained to do so).

You opinions, which is all they are, are a joke, and bare no relation to the facts, just a load of propaganda fed to you to make you feel better about yourself.

never mind Stevie...saw you gloating about the murder in London. It makes the news because it's rare...not so in the slums of Buenos Aires and Montevideo eh Stevie.
147 Stevie (#) May 26th, 2013 - 07:44 pm Report abuse
144
My response was to Monkeymagic and has little to do with the topic you'd wish to discuss. I told you already, just as you are free to post your stupidities, I'm free to post what I wish to. If you agree, fine. If you disagree, fine as well.
148 reality check (#) May 26th, 2013 - 07:46 pm Report abuse
Elaine.
You have obviously been able to access her speech, are you able to give me a link. I really would be interested in hearing what she said, obviously not for the content, more for the rhetoric and style, be nice to see if it was up to her usual standard.
149 Stevie (#) May 26th, 2013 - 07:53 pm Report abuse
Monkeymagic

You mean like this?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8l0m1_65aU

Or like this, in Afghanistan?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKHPTHx0ScQ
150 reality check (#) May 26th, 2013 - 07:56 pm Report abuse
Fight them here or fight them there.

fight them there, makes sense.
151 Stevie (#) May 26th, 2013 - 07:59 pm Report abuse
And Monkeymagic. loads of Things happens in Uruguay.
Public executions on the streets of Montevideo is not one of them.
Merely a result of your fooked up society, the one you lot wish to introduce in the rest of the World.
Keep it, we want nothing to do with your racism against the muslim nations.
There is a reason all of that mess isn't happening in South America.

And you lot cry out loud when tyres are burnt in Argentina...
152 Troy Tempest (#) May 26th, 2013 - 08:17 pm Report abuse
@151 Stevie

“Keep it, we want nothing to do with your racism against the muslim nations.
There is a reason all of that mess isn't happening in South America”

What kind of Muslim population do you have in Argentina?
Are they more welcome or less welcome than the Jews?
Do Mosques get bombed in BA ??
153 Monkeymagic (#) May 26th, 2013 - 08:18 pm Report abuse
There was no “public execution” on the streets of London, there was a murder. There are murders in every major city in the world, London has one of the lowest.

We have no racism towards Muslim Nationals we are home to over a million of them, and on the whole the societies mix very well, more of your pig ignorant racist propaganda I'm afraid Stevie.

Really you must try harder.

The mess you talk about not happening in South America, is precisely because South America does nothing on the international stage. What UN security council resolutions has Uruguay ever supported? What genocide has Uruguay ever stopped (there is of course the one it perpetrated), where was Uruguay when the world fought Fascism?

Oh yes, under it's bed, shitting itself, and looking to collaborate with whoever looked like winning. A non-entity of a nothing country Stevie...although your footballers make a good impact in the UK...bans for racism and biting (twice)!!!!

Typical South American...too stupid to learn the first time

P.s.

I haven't opened your you tube clips...is its someone's dog shagging a rabbit, or a fat kid pretending to be Darth Vader...perhaps it's Jose Malvineros nucleus attack on Port Stanley...there's all sort of shit on you tube Stevie..and your full of it.
154 reality check (#) May 26th, 2013 - 08:20 pm Report abuse
Lee Rigby.
Rest in Peace.
155 andy65 (#) May 26th, 2013 - 08:27 pm Report abuse
136 Stevie, Now remind us all again who Argentina invaded in 1982 and then ignored resolution 502 telling you to leave leaving it to The British Troops to make the long journey south and show you the door????
156 reality check (#) May 26th, 2013 - 08:34 pm Report abuse
Andy
He was not there mate, he's a Uruguayan, god put them on the eath so they could spend the rest of their lifes being afraid of Argentines, kissing their asses and walking backwards, bowing as they go out of a door!
157 Stevie (#) May 26th, 2013 - 08:36 pm Report abuse
153
You are right, Lucho eats you lot in 5 loaves of bread, and he plays the game better than anyone that Britain can come up with ;)

As for Uruguay hiding during the WW2. Hiding from what?
We were selling you lot meat so you could eat at least, weren't we?

And racism against Muslims is palpable in Europe, just in England you lot have the EDL, don't you?

Of course you haven't opened my youtube vids, running from the truth is a natural reaction for you lot. You much prefer the lies your governments can come up with in order to invade Sovereign nations and steal their resources.
Common thieves is what you lot are.
158 Chicureo (#) May 26th, 2013 - 08:39 pm Report abuse
#151
Guzz
You are NOT from Uruguay.
You have no idea of what you're talking about.
I totally agree that Argentina should mount an invasion force, load up a few freighters filled with freedom fighters from la Campora like yourself and send you to liberate Bouvet Island which clearly belongs to your country.
Who knows? The Norwegians might just let you win as it would be incredibly amusing entertainment letting you all sit out your occupation there.
159 Stevie (#) May 26th, 2013 - 08:44 pm Report abuse
Sure Chicureo, and you are just another expat who happened to settle in Chile, another of our brother nations.
So go out there and use some cash, like you are supposed to do.

These expats still haven't understood the reason why they aren't allowed to vote...
160 reality check (#) May 26th, 2013 - 08:48 pm Report abuse
Here we go again, the old Argie arguement, we fed you.

Sod off, you and your friends across the river sold it to us, sold it to us at inflated prices. We then had to ship it 8500 miles and thousands of sailors gave their lives to bring it here. So get off your higher than though horse, you profited from WW2, you were war profiteers, scum, just like your neighbours across the river.

There was only one of you that came out of it with any honour, Brazil, look at them today! says a lot.
161 Stevie (#) May 26th, 2013 - 08:52 pm Report abuse
160
Inflated prices? Where did you get that from? We sold you the meat at market price, the same market you lot defend and wish to globalize.
You sod off, with your selective arguments.
And you have the guts to call us war profiteers after what you have done in the Middle East. Thieves, common criminals!
162 andy65 (#) May 26th, 2013 - 09:01 pm Report abuse
@Stevie, love seeing you cats getting bitched slapped down but like Nazi Nestor's tart you keep coming back for more
163 reality check (#) May 26th, 2013 - 09:07 pm Report abuse
Rubbish. Stop playing the saviour. You fed us sure, but you SOLD it to us, SOLD it. Know what that means. It means you gave us goods and we gave you MONEY for for it, so please cut the crap about saving us.

Where the hell do you think Argentina got their jet technology from? Meteor Jets, in exchange for money owed to them, for the food they SOLD us. All those German scientists beavering away to for them and the UK gave it to them on a plate. 1st in SA to have the technology and 5th in the world!

Total rubbish, you supplied it and you were paid for it.

Damn you lot love to change history to make yourselves look better than you are,

What is it like, being born with an inferiority complex?
164 andy65 (#) May 26th, 2013 - 09:10 pm Report abuse
@ Stevie if you are from Uruguay tell us why you President looks like a tramp and not had a shower in the past 5 years and why does he slag of the botox queen then hitch a lift in tango1 .
165 Troy Tempest (#) May 26th, 2013 - 09:12 pm Report abuse
@159stevie

“These expats still haven't understood the reason why they aren't allowed to vote...”

What is the reason?

Do they need to become Landed Immigrants or Citizens, first?

Or it because of their ethnicity?
166 Chicureo (#) May 26th, 2013 - 09:18 pm Report abuse
#159
Guzz
My ancestors came over from Europe and thankfully chose Chile to settle in.
“colonists” just like all the Southern Italians that helped colonize indigiounous lands in Argentina.

Please now explain why
”These expats still haven't understood the reason why they aren't allowed to vote...”.
as Chile ALLOWS long residing expats to vote in elections here......
167 reality check (#) May 26th, 2013 - 09:22 pm Report abuse
He's right though, our guys would have been well and truly ferked without the famous tins of “Bully Beef” corned beef to you and me, remember FREY BENTOS.

Uruguays greatest export, delivered in tins with the bottoms stamped, “Produce of Argentina!”
168 Ayayay (#) May 26th, 2013 - 09:23 pm Report abuse
@151 Argentina was bombed by the gov ofIran twice- you think the Middle East challenge escapes you?

Let's hope Kirchner starts subsidizing Muslim immigration.
Just like the Arg gov once offered a ffinancial reward immigration of the least-wealthy in the 30s. The very last time Argentina would be a rich country.
169 reality check (#) May 26th, 2013 - 09:27 pm Report abuse
No chance, Iran are She' ite muslims, a minority.
170 Stevie (#) May 26th, 2013 - 09:34 pm Report abuse
reality check
I never said we saved you lot, and I did say we SOLD you the foodstuff, at market price. Just like you lot SOLD us the railroads just before changing the standards for the trains.

Troy
The reason is because they being attracted to use their pensions in SA, their political views is of little interest. Regardless skin colour.

Chicureo
That made up story sounds great, but you are an expat, not a Chileno.

reality check
It's Fray Bentos.

Ayayay
When you decide to attack civilians with bombs, you ought to be prepared to take on the emmigration it results in.
SA doesn't bomb anybody.
Your little mission of theft, deal with the consequences, including public beheadings in the streets of UK. How insane isn't that?
But hey, lets talk about burnt tyres in Argentina...
171 toooldtodieyoung (#) May 26th, 2013 - 09:36 pm Report abuse
“All ready for the massive ‘decade won’ celebration of ten years of Kirchnerite rule”

I bet none of those mindless idiots at the rally will know why they are cheering or what they are cheering for..............

Think and Jose and BK and Raul will have already bought their tickets all ready of course( all proceeds going straight into KFC's bank account ) and be as close to the front as they can get, w*nking themselves to a stand still in the presence of their “Glorious leader”.

She will be preening and pouting on stage thinking to herself “You f**king retards, keep cheering for me, keep smiling and waving while I rob you all blind, I've got you all right where I want you”
172 reality check (#) May 26th, 2013 - 09:44 pm Report abuse
So it's Fray Bentos, but the cans were still stamped produce of Argentina.

An Argentine explanation would be, the cans were produce of Argentina, we never said the meat was!
173 Stevie (#) May 26th, 2013 - 09:49 pm Report abuse
Well reality check
Today you might buy meat labelled as “Produce of Brazil”, plenty of it being Uruguayan meat, the landowners being Brazilians. They ship the cows to Brazil and sell it as Brazilian meat.
You can't imagine how it can be being in the middle of two giants. We still profit from it of course, but we really need to get those frigorificos going, like in the old days...
174 toooldtodieyoung (#) May 26th, 2013 - 09:50 pm Report abuse
154 reality check

With you all the way on that one brother.

A terrible waste.

A terrible shame.
175 ElaineB (#) May 26th, 2013 - 09:52 pm Report abuse
@148 I read the highlights in a few of the Argentine papers. Buenos Aires Herald is in English. La Nacion and Clarin both have an option to translate to English or you could try one of the government owned publications of which there are many. I tend to move around the publications to get a general opinion. (I am assuming you are not fluent in Spanish but if you are I apologise).
176 Monkeymagic (#) May 26th, 2013 - 09:52 pm Report abuse
Stevie

had it been left to “Uruguay”, Saddam Hussein wouldn't have stopped at Kuwait, he would have rolled into the UAE and kept going.

Why, because Uruguay (Argentina) would have been shitting itself hiding under the bed and doing NOTHING as usual. Probably hoping to give Saddam safe passage at the end of it.

Now, having saved Kuwait, and the stopped the knock on effect, we've made some enemies, but nothing like the number of friends, who now don't live under the tyranny of Saddam...the Kuwaitis are free, the Kurds aren't being gassed, and 11 million Iraqis voted in their last election.

And Uruguay/Argentina hid under the bed shitting themselves hoping the boogie man doesn't come.

Your pride of “never being involved” should be abject shame. You watched the genocide in Bosnia and DID nothing, you watched the invasion of Kuwait and DID nothing, you watched fascism infect huge portions of the Globe and DID nothing....

YOU are a shameful bunch of nothing cowards...

You see, Stevie...because you are so pitifully inadequate, you aren't even involved, nobody would ask you for help....not that you'd give it f you could.

However, you recent attempt to steal territory in 1982 didn't go so well did it. don't tell me you had the Falklanders interests at heart when you held them at gunpoint.

What a fuckwit!!!
177 reality check (#) May 26th, 2013 - 09:55 pm Report abuse
Argentina stole your thunder, the world thought it was them supplying them with corned beef and all the while it was you.
178 Chicureo (#) May 26th, 2013 - 09:58 pm Report abuse
#170
“Stevie” You are not from Uruguay, but from Argentina. (That's ok, because I wouldn't be so proud either if I had a mad perra as president either.)

As far as “SA doesn't bomb anybody” That's not true either, or do you forget your own people killing your own citizens during the bombing of Plaza de Mayo, which was a massacre in Buenos Aires, Argentina, on June 16, 1955. A total of 9.5 tonnes of ordnance were dropped, killing 364 (mostly civilians) and injuring more than 800.“
You also ”accidentally” repeatedly bombed Chile during the Falklands War and we kept it covered up as we wanted no publicity. That will all come out when the Secrets Act in the UK finally releases them.
179 Ayayay (#) May 26th, 2013 - 10:00 pm Report abuse
@170 there we agree!

My side of the United States is relatively peaceful, we have 8x!!!!!!! less violent events than when BsAs stoppped reporting in 2007 :)
180 Stevie (#) May 26th, 2013 - 10:04 pm Report abuse
Monkeymagic
I understand you need to convince yourself that you are doing the world a favour when commiting the atrocities that you do. Only reason you lot fought the Nazi's is because they chose to try to invade your isles. Remember Chamberlain? Nowadays and purely ideologically there is little difference between you and them.

I don't pity you, I sincerely understand your position. Anything else would be a hard one to swallow...
181 andy65 (#) May 26th, 2013 - 10:22 pm Report abuse
Have you ever seen such a strange looking bunch which one is you Stevie

www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=572024119516531&set=a.495477257171218.122684.495471120505165&type=1&theater

And here we have a photo of the next invading force of the great British Falkland Islands we should be very afraid.
PLEASE NOTE
Toni as worn the same clothes for the past 4 weeks obviously a dirty bastard when it comes to personal hygiene.
standing on and burning flags is so 3rd world is that how you see yourself Argentina??? strange how you never see The British behaving like this
www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=570226249696318&set=a.495477257171218.122684.495471120505165&type=1&theater
182 Redrow (#) May 26th, 2013 - 10:24 pm Report abuse
@ Stevie

Chamberlain declared war in Sept 1939. When did the Germans attempt an invasion prior to that?
183 Anglotino (#) May 26th, 2013 - 10:31 pm Report abuse
@117 Stevie

“In Uruguay we have old burgoises stating the same foolishness as you are doing here, that the state is offering “handouts” to get rid of poverty... Seems it depends on the wind, doesn't it?”

YOU DON'T LIVE IN URUGUAY!
YOU ARE NOT URUGUAYAN!
YOU AREN’T EVEN IN LATIN AMERICA
YOU DON’T SPEAK SPANISH

@151 Stevie

“And Monkeymagic. loads of Things happens in Uruguay.
Public executions on the streets of Montevideo is not one of them.
Merely a result of your fooked up society, the one you lot wish to introduce in the rest of the World.
Keep it, we want nothing to do with your racism against the muslim nations.
There is a reason all of that mess isn't happening in South America.

And you lot cry out loud when tyres are burnt in Argentina...”

YOU DON'T LIVE IN URUGUAY!
YOU ARE NOT URUGUAYAN!
YOU AREN’T EVEN IN LATIN AMERICA
YOU DON’T SPEAK SPANISH

@170 Stevie

“Chicureo
That made up story sounds great, but you are an expat, not a Chileno.”

YOU DON'T LIVE IN URUGUAY!
YOU ARE NOT URUGUAYAN!
YOU AREN’T EVEN IN LATIN AMERICA
YOU DON’T SPEAK SPANISH

Perhaps it is you that is the actual expat? Projecting?

@173 Stevie
“You can't imagine how it can be being in the middle of two giants. We still profit from it of course, but we really need to get those frigorificos going, like in the old days...”

YOU DON'T LIVE IN URUGUAY!
YOU ARE NOT URUGUAYAN!
YOU AREN’T EVEN IN LATIN AMERICA
YOU DON’T SPEAK SPANISH
184 Stevie (#) May 26th, 2013 - 10:32 pm Report abuse
Chicureo
And you are a Brit expat.
The amount of you on here having a go at SA is amazing, and still you opted for SA, avoiding the UK...

Ayayay
Nothing like a peaceful school shooting, is there?

andy
You are right, burning flags is so 3rd World...
Public beheadings on the streets is the new way, so 1st World...

Redrow
You are right.

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/special_report/1999/08/99/world_war_ii/430071.stm

Appeasement didn't work, did it?
185 andy65 (#) May 26th, 2013 - 10:39 pm Report abuse
@Stevie, unlike what is probably the norm in Argentina we occasionally get a nutter on the streets of London committing a vile crime though we are yet to resort to the one way pleasure flights once introduced by Argentina
186 Stevie (#) May 26th, 2013 - 10:44 pm Report abuse
andy
Occasional beheadings on the streets.
Occational suicide bombings.
Occasional murder of people like David Kelly...

Seems you lot are occasionally busy...

Anglolatino
Mirá, sietemesino, por qué no te vas a la concha de tu madre por lo menos dos meses mas. Gil.

;)
187 Chicureo (#) May 26th, 2013 - 11:23 pm Report abuse
Stevie Guzz Arsehole,
Did Anglolatino touch a nerve?
We have killings here in Santiago on a regular basis, but nothing like you have in Buenos Aires. What does a crime in London have to do with this thread except to be used as a crutch to avoid reality.
Again, perhaps you'd just better go back under your rock where you belong....
188 andy65 (#) May 26th, 2013 - 11:46 pm Report abuse
@ Chicureo You must excuse Stevie he is an evil bi product of his dear lady queen the botox queen may god bless him.
189 Anglotino (#) May 27th, 2013 - 12:14 am Report abuse
Stevie

First off, I lost my mother when I was 18, so impossible. But thank you a glimpse of your soul.

Second, why did you lie?
Why do you lie?
Why do you lie?
Why did you lie and pretend you couldn't speak or understand Spanish?

You keep highlighting that you lie.

You lie
You lie
You lie

It is you that is highlighting this, not me.

So now you speak Spanish. What did you hope to gain by pretending otherwise? I don't care either way whether you speak it or not, but I am extremely happy to highlight that you keep lying and I keep showing it.

“If you like me have difficulties with the Spanish language, try inserting the link in google translate.”
en.mercopress.com/2012/12/20/uruguay-diversifies-energy-mix-with-530-mw-combined-cycle-gas-power-plant#comment200453

“I just translated Moyano's statements on lanacion.com and even if google translate sometimes comes up with weird translations, the headline is hard to misinterpret.”
en.mercopress.com/2012/12/21/looting-extends-in-argentina-two-people-shot-dead-dozens-injured-in-clashes-with-police#comment200481

“My Spanish might be rusty, and I confess I'm no good at reading or typing the language, but my understanding of the spoken language is enough to make out that he actually says that in the video.”
en.mercopress.com/2012/12/21/looting-extends-in-argentina-two-people-shot-dead-dozens-injured-in-clashes-with-police#comment200489

You don't live in Uruguay. The only way you could be Uruguayan is if you are an expat..... what did you say about expats?

“A country's perception of it's own internal matters will always outweight a critical expat who thinks he knows better. With all respect, if you don't like it, you can do what you've seemingly done before, pack your bags and leave. Where I reside has nothing to do with the subject, I'm not here to discuss my personal life with you.”
en.mercopress.com/2012/12/20/uruguay-diversifies-energy-mix-with-530-mw-combined-cycle-g
190 Chicureo (#) May 27th, 2013 - 12:46 am Report abuse
Andy and Anglotino,

As you both suspect, Stevie/Guzz is a product of several generations of Argentine Gypsy inbreeding. He is NOT from Uruguay.

The best solution is for CFK to mount an invasion force of a few freighters filled with freedom fighters from la Campora like Stevie/Guzz and send them to liberate Bouvet Island which clearly belongs to Argentina. Knowing the state of the Argentine Navy, they'll probably sink before invading or the group will freeze to death after storming the beach.
191 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) May 27th, 2013 - 02:16 am Report abuse
I still don't understand why 190 messages by foreigners trashing Argentina.
192 Chicureo (#) May 27th, 2013 - 02:59 am Report abuse
#191 Troll

It's EASY to understand...

We are just plain disgusted listening to you all yelping and making a scandal because of your own stupidity. You whine about no one wanting to loan you money: how about you honoring your commitments?
You cry because the IMF is sanctioning you: how about you stop telling big whoppers about your inflation and be honest for a change. You bawl because of the WTO rulings against Argentina: how about being fair and complying with the trade agreements you signed? You whimper because international investors are fleeing your country: how about your country stop the practice of raping corporations that have tried to? You wail and spit and cry and act like wounded animals everytime your theiving masters invoke the mythical lost Malvinas: how about accepting the Falklands are, and NEVER will be a part of your excuse of a democratic country? You bitch and quack about not being as wealthy as you were in the 1920s: how about not electing any more Peronist bastards to office that are only good for stealing from you?

I have friends in Mendoza and San Juan who can't answer the questions either...
193 ioroman (#) May 27th, 2013 - 03:18 am Report abuse
191 ToLLey,
It is actually simple. When I joined this blog; It took me a few minutes to realize that most participants hate everything that progressive governments in the region do. It has been a while and I have been proven correct. Many participants are experts on every issue because they read CLARIN.
194 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) May 27th, 2013 - 03:18 am Report abuse
So I guess your answer is we do all that and engage in self-mass starvation. Because doing all that you say would lead exactly to that, as the rest of the world has no interest in being “fair” to Argentina.
195 bushpilot (#) May 27th, 2013 - 03:26 am Report abuse
@193 Ioro

“hate everything that progressive governments do in the region”

There is nothing progressive about La Campora thugs.
196 Troy Tempest (#) May 27th, 2013 - 03:48 am Report abuse
@Toby Teen Troll

“Fair ” to Argentina?

Nobody is responsible for Argentina except Argentina, itself.

Sorry.
197 Ayayay (#) May 27th, 2013 - 03:52 am Report abuse
@184 There's no such thing in my region of the U.S. Like Argentina is not necessarily UNASUR.
Those who hate war will not bring peace. Those who love peace will bring peace.
198 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) May 27th, 2013 - 03:52 am Report abuse
Exactly, thus we will do what is best for us, since no one else will.

I'm glad we agree.
199 bushpilot (#) May 27th, 2013 - 03:57 am Report abuse
Stealing investors money probably isn't what is best for Argentina.
200 Anglotino (#) May 27th, 2013 - 03:58 am Report abuse
@191 Nostrils

Perhaps we need to keep repeating the same thing again and again because some Argentineans are just too plain thick to see shit that is straight in front of them.

But don't worry we'll persevere.

For instance even you are now aware that YOU CAN'T ARGUE.

“I still don't understand why 190 messages by foreigners trashing Argentina”

And yet 10 of those posts are your own!

25 are Stevie. That's 13% by someone who pretends to live in Uruguay but won't actually say which country he DOES live in.

So I count 29 posts by people who identify as living in Argentina. Include Stevie and you have 54 posts.

Nearly 30% of posts are on your side and yet you aren't intelligent enough to realise that. You're too busy feeding your persecution complex like a good little spoon-fed citizen. Don't question. Don't think. Don't challenge. Just radicalise yourself as you are obviously under siege.

So Stevie posts nearly as much as all the Argentineans and yet you have never castigate him as a foreigner commenting.

Because you are a sycophant and you relate to other sycophants. You are clearly xenophobic and that is not something I am going try and convince you is wrong. You will never be happy because you are part of the problem.

The loathing you feel is towards yourself and is the knowledge that you empower your own government to commit so many wrongs against you and your fellow citizens.

You continually highlight individual crimes and actions by others in other countries as evidence of societal failings and problems and yet it is your own individual actions that you detest the most. It is your actions and the same actions by millions of other Argentineans that commit greater damage than two deluded Muslim extremists on the streets of London.

God I'd love to know what you are studying at uni but alas as per most Argentineans you prefer to present a small target on here. A trait that helps you deal with your own government and its persecution industry. .
201 bushpilot (#) May 27th, 2013 - 04:06 am Report abuse
I don't mean to keep harping on this but is Merco Press going to post CFK's speech in its entirety?

If they did that, that would keep everybody busy for a week. An article like that would break all “comment” records with at least a thousand posted comments.

Then Mercopress could go home for the week and no one would even know they were gone. Come on Merco Press post that speech!!
202 toooldtodieyoung (#) May 27th, 2013 - 07:49 am Report abuse
201 bushpilot

Oh, I hope that they do!!! I, for one, am looking forward to it. It promises to be the greatest work of stand up comedy since the Lee Evans “Roadrunner” tour.........

I am actually sitting here beside myself.
203 Monkeymagic (#) May 27th, 2013 - 07:50 am Report abuse
@180

Stevie

You are full of shit, and have no clue about history, so like Nostrils you make it up...not surprising as you confess you get your truth from you-tube...LOL

Britain declared war on Germany when Germany invaded Poland. LIE 1 from Stevie.
Britain won the Battle of Britain in 1940, our islands were secured. lie 2 from Stevie.
Britain continued fighting to irradicate fascism from all of Western Europe. lie 3 from Stevie.

See Stevie, whilst you we shitting yourself hiding under the bed, watching things like Auschwitz and Belsen happen, we were fighting it. It meant bombs went of in London..yes, the Blitz was our fault..we upset the Nazis...

When the genocide was happening in Bosnia..Uruguay/Argentina hid again. Strangely we helped the Muslims that time...odd as according to you, we hate them. Yes, I expect we upset some of Milosovics followers.

When Saddam invaded Kuwait, we helped yet more Muslims, by throwing him out. Where was Uruguay/Argentina...you got it, shitting themselves hiding under the bed.

The atrocities are all in your mind Stevie, because you are as thick as Nostril.

Never mind, continue with your factually incorrect historical bullshit, that's what comes of learning the truth off you-tube. Have you seen the one of Polar Bears on Mars...that's true too....fuckwit,
204 toooldtodieyoung (#) May 27th, 2013 - 07:57 am Report abuse
203 Monkeymagic

me thinks you are, regrettably, bang your head against a brick wall. stevie is, to para phrase the hovis advert “As thick today as he has always been”

Your rant at him, while completely justifiable, will just go from his eyes and out through his ears, without ever encountering his brain.

So sad but true, he is, as someone remarked on this very thread, a product of Argentine brainwashing and there is nothing that we can say that will undo the years and years of mis information that he has been fed.
205 Stevie (#) May 27th, 2013 - 03:09 pm Report abuse
So, all in all, you lot are a bunch of thieving, common criminals.
And your main argument as to why you are nothing but a bunch of thieving, common criminals is that I'm not Uruguayan...

There are problems in Argentina, as there are problems in Uruguay.
Still we don't have public beheadings on the streets.

Sort your own shite before pointing your dirty fingers.
206 Troy Tempest (#) May 27th, 2013 - 06:28 pm Report abuse
@205stevie

“Still we don't have public beheadings on the streets.”

C'mon Stevie,
You know intellectually that is not only a ridiculous statement, but callous and inflammatory as well.

Really, you are pulling yourself down to Toby's level.

Unless of course, you too are a childish frustrated Argentine, instead of a mature idealistic Tupamaro.
207 Monkeymagic (#) May 27th, 2013 - 06:30 pm Report abuse
Nice summary Stevie, but as much bollocks as the rest of your posts.

This thread sums you up well Stevie

In fact pretty much everything you posted from Iraq, Muslims, football, and murder was complete and utter fantasy, and proven to be so.

However, if you get your kicks from making stuff up and posting it on the web, and making yourself look a complete penis....good luck..at least you are successful at something.
208 Clyde15 (#) May 27th, 2013 - 07:55 pm Report abuse
#205
“Still we don't have public beheadings on the streets.”

Your command of English is letting you down again. Public beheadings infers that it was sanctioned by the state, in a ritualised fashion - even with your warped logic you cannot justify that statement.
209 Stevie (#) May 27th, 2013 - 09:31 pm Report abuse
www.businessinsider.com/in-britain-police-arrest-twitter-and-facebook-users-if-they-make-anti-muslim-statements-2013-5

Choose your Words with care, Brits.
Seems your freedom of speech is merely a fancy phrase...
210 Anglotino (#) May 28th, 2013 - 03:06 am Report abuse
Intelligent people can discern the limits to freedom of speech.

But for someone who is so ashamed of their nationality and where they live, it isn't surprising that you have difficulty with this concept.

For instance you are free to say whatever you want but must live with the consequences. Try it! Next time you are on a flight, stand up and tell everyone you have a bomb. Then live with the consequences.

Wow, you've become the eunuch of Mercopress with off topic links like this.

Congrats.
211 Think (#) May 28th, 2013 - 04:22 am Report abuse
(209) Stevie

What about this one !?!....:

www.businessinsider.com/in-britain-police-arrest-twitter-facebook- and-MercoPress-users-if-they-make-anti-Argentinean-statements-2013-6
212 Stevie (#) May 28th, 2013 - 05:50 am Report abuse
Anglolatino, your lots lives are off topic, with Argentina as point of reference. In your case you have me as well...

Think

;)
213 Clyde15 (#) May 28th, 2013 - 10:19 am Report abuse
#209
There are degrees of expressing opinions.
I could be anti-muslim and say so HOWEVER if I tried to incite violence against them, then rightly I should be prosecuted. Do you have the same rules in your world or does your Disneyland allow you to propagate hate without consequences. Your pal trolley would be a good candidate for this.
#211
Trying to call up the reference you have quoted gave the result below...........Direct paste from the web page.
“Whoops...
The page you are trying to reach cannot be found-”

I presume the addition below is your own interpretation of this.
and MercoPress-users-if-they-make-anti-Argentinean-statements-2013-6
However, I am sure in fairness that you and your crew will still expect to be able to make anti-British statements with impunity.
214 Anglotino (#) May 28th, 2013 - 10:19 am Report abuse
One you feted me with a veritable 10 course feast in your replies. I was so excited.

Now I'm left standing here holding a slimy sock and feeling unfulfilled.

I'm sure you have heard this before, but you promised to deliver so much and.... well, it was quite disappointing really.
215 Stevie (#) May 28th, 2013 - 03:24 pm Report abuse
Clyde
When drawings of Mohammed are made all across Europe, fully knowing that you lot are inciting to violence, you defend that act as freedom of expression. Who draws the line? You lot?

Anglolatino
That wasn't me, blame your life...
216 Clyde15 (#) May 28th, 2013 - 05:33 pm Report abuse
#215
Where are these drawings all across Europe ? I have not seen any. As far as I know they have not appeared in any UK publication or on TV.
Be specific if you have a point to make. Likewise “define you lot”
Any incitement to violence is a criminal offence in the UK.
As far as we are concerned, YES we do draw the line concerning freedom of speech in our country. What's it to you if you don't live here ?
217 ChrisR (#) May 28th, 2013 - 07:59 pm Report abuse
215 Stevie

I was unaware you were a practicing Muslim?

I thought, perhaps hoped, that you did not believe this god nonsense being a left winger as you are. When did this happen?

And you have to admit that the rag-heads are VERY much over the top and cause a lot of death, rape, destruction of property and the rest of the rediculous pandering to a 54 YO pervert who raped a 9 YO child who he 'married' when she was 6 YO.

Do you not therefore understand why we should ALWAYS follow the name Muhommad with “piss and shit be upon him”?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfJ6FpabknY
218 Stevie (#) May 28th, 2013 - 08:56 pm Report abuse
Chris
I respect everybodys imaginary friends, what can I say...
219 ChrisR (#) May 28th, 2013 - 09:58 pm Report abuse
218 Stevie

Not a bad answer that.
220 British_Kirchnerist (#) Jun 03rd, 2013 - 11:20 pm Report abuse
#82 ”But CFK certainly enjoyed herself rocking out to the music. (She really cannot dance)”

I've seen a few videos of her dancing, and sure enough she's not got the most technical style, but I think she looks sweet and certainly looks like she's enjoying it, which is the main thing =)

“Did anyone see the pictures of Not-So-Fat Max? He seems to be slimming down. Good for his health”

Credit where its due, kudos for that Elaine =) Keep it up!

#84 As I remembered from other rallies, sweet and cute =)

#88 “She has that whiny, weary tone that she deliberately uses to emphasize 'the struggle but unbroken spirit of the defiant leader heading the revolution'

Then she has the 'just call me Crissy' stage manner where she uses pub language and talks about her dogs”

Every good orator (of which there are few political ones left in the language of Shakespeare) is able to modulate their voice and style of speech. Galloway is excellent at it, I don't know Arabic but have heard Nasser was particularly good at mixing high and low forms of speech, and what you've just said is that Cristina is also good at it, which she definitely is =) As for her “call me Crissy”, “pub language” voice, well I'd definitely call her Crissy if she liked (though I like Cristinita!), and in the best Scottish working class traditions, the first round of beers would be on me =)

#93 “OK lets be honest here Cristina Kirchner is nothing but a ruff old bird just look at her no taste no class nothing,Argentines should send her to The UK so she can take some lessons from The Dutchess Of Cambridge”

Hillarious, I'm confident Cristinita has literally nothing to learn from the insipid inexperienced “Dutchess” (sic)

#127 “Andy, she was wearing a nice little black number. Not adverse to a stroll around the dance floor with a lady dressed like that, late at night with a few under my belt of course. Double bag job!”

Reality check, living up to your name =)

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