Tuesday, May 28th 2013 - 03:07 UTC

Argentina and Brazil ‘fear’ a greater integration with China, says Mujica

Uruguayan president Jose Mujica currently in Beijing on an official visit, underlined the significance of China in trade and investments fro South America, but also admitted there is some ‘fear’ mainly from Argentina and Brazil about a greater integration and dependency from the Asian giant.

The Uruguayan president with Chinese top officials

“China is most important for South America, and not only for Uruguay, but also for Argentina and Brazil but they fear China because of this country’s productivity, the fact it sells cheaply and they are afraid their domestic industrial production lines could be impaired”, said Mujica.

For that “we need to develop complementation of those production lines in manufacturing, if we are to make long term agreements. We need added value to our production of commodities”, insisted Mujica, who arrived in China last Saturday and Tuesday leaves for Spain.

Addressing a business forum at the city of Tianjin, Mujica said that “growth will only come if we manage to increasingly exchange added value. Selling commodities in the long term is not sustainable, not even for China, we must incorporate added valued”.

Mujica and a delegation of ministers and top officials have been in China for a three-day visit where they met the Beijing regime top officials including President Xi Jinping, Prime Minister Li Keqiang and the president of the National Popular Assembly, Zhang Dejiang.

Mujica’s visit main purpose is to interest China in helping develop infrastructure projects in Uruguay such as a deep-water port on the Atlantic; deepening and dredging River Plate access channels; revamping the dilapidated railway system and alternative energy projects.

In the city of Tianjin Mujica and the Uruguayan delegation were hosted by China Railway Materials who are the suppliers of the Chinese system and were later invited to meet with representatives from China Communications Construction Company and China Shipbuilding Industry Corporation, both linked to the construction of major infrastructure projects and port terminals.

The delegation did most of the business talks in Tianjin, which is China’s main northern port because the city has a collaboration agreements signed with Montevideo several years ago.

Mujica also revealed that he had first visited China over fifty years ago and congratulated the Chinese government and people for their achievements making the country a leading trade and economic world power. At the time China was ruled by chairman Mao Tse Tung, and Mujica was an incipient urban guerrilla, great admirer of the Chinese model of the time.

In Spain Mujica is scheduled to meet King Juan Carlos, President Mariano Rajoy and participate in several business forums with leading Spanish corporations and financial institutions. From Spain, Mujica flies to Rome where he is scheduled to have lunch with Pope Francis.

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1 Anglotino (#) May 28th, 2013 - 05:03 am Report abuse
I'm all for trade with China but I don't trust them.
2 Stevie (#) May 28th, 2013 - 06:02 am Report abuse
Railroads - check
Deep sea port - check

Good job Mujica.
3 willowas1 (#) May 28th, 2013 - 08:46 am Report abuse
Free Tibet-from communist china oppressive rule The United Nations General assembly is complicit by their keeping quiet while china rapes and ravages the place There has been over a hundred plus immolations by protesters in Tibet yet the world's media keep quiet because “they do not want to upset china” So they prefer to prostitute themselves before communists for a few pieces of Chinese silver-like Judas Iscariot
4 Captain Poppy (#) May 28th, 2013 - 10:21 am Report abuse
Now......bend over pepe for the tattoo......“PROPERTY OF BEIJING” assuming they give pepe money or lend him Yuan that he can convert into Argentine pesos.
5 manchesterlad (#) May 28th, 2013 - 10:51 am Report abuse
So much for Mercosur solidarity, Uruguay would rather deal with China for it's deep water port because it can't agree with big brother Arg on dredging operations

Also Arg would rather deal with China on it' s massive railway car purchase because it' competing with bigger cousin Brazil on selling out it's natural resources......... Some alliance ehh!!!
6 Conqueror (#) May 28th, 2013 - 11:23 am Report abuse
You're missing the point. “Pepe” hasn't got anything yet. Naturally, China will steer a careful course in order not to jeopardise its long term plans for the takeover of argieland and Brazil. Remember that the ultimate aim of communism was always to take over the world. Russia has renounced communism and replaced it with its own mafia. China hasn't renounced anything. My guess is that they've just made a slight change in their plans. Also remember that, even before communism, China has always taken the “long” view. It doesn't matter when they reach their objective as long as they get there in the end! There's also the possibility that, in order to reach Uruguay's current ports in the River Plate, they would have to dredge their way in. So let's wonder what “Pepe” is offering. Bear in mind that they haven't come to him, he's gone to them. It's traditional to take a gift when you make a visit in the hope of getting something.
7 Baxter (#) May 28th, 2013 - 01:12 pm Report abuse
6 .Conqueror . As always you hit the nail on the head . China has not given up Communism , far from it . It is slowly , but surely , spreading out around the world . First trade , then control .And they are so clever . In 1997 took over Hong Kong . They have kept to their part of deal , freedom of expression and so on , to convince the world they can be trusted . But once they get their way they will crush free speech in Hong Kong !
8 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) May 28th, 2013 - 01:31 pm
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9 rylang23 (#) May 28th, 2013 - 02:20 pm Report abuse
@ #6 & #7..... If you both replaced the word “China” with “US” and the word “communism” with “fascist capitalism”, then I could agree begin with you.

Again I implore you to see beyond the “left vs. right” that seemingly has you guys by the balls. China vs. the West is a sideshow to the main event, which is the “.001% against the rest of humanity”. As long as you hold the left/right mindset, you are seeing the world through a distorted lens. You will NEVER be in the .001% yet you defend them as if they actually care about you. You are cannon fodder for them, and mere “labor units”, and you are disposable, and most of us are just in their way to taking all of the chips on the table.

Open your eyes a bit guys!
10 manchesterlad (#) May 28th, 2013 - 02:20 pm Report abuse
It seems like google translator is working overtime again!!!
11 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) May 28th, 2013 - 02:33 pm Report abuse

hahahaha... your lives are so sad. No wonder your countries are dustbins of their former selves.

When I was writing in German, it was google.

When I was writing in Portuguese, it was google.

When I was writing in French, it was google.

When I was writing in very elevated English, it was the thesaurus.

Now, it's google again.

Forget the fact that my German, French, Portuguese, English, and now Chinese are too proper in grammar and colloquialisms to be cheap google translations (which are notoriously bad, especially with language expressions), it's still google.

All because of the hatred, jaundice, and antipathy my truth telling ways engender in you all. You can't stand the truth, and much less the truth from an argie, and much less the truth from an argie who is way smarter, and much less the truth from an argie who is way smarter and knows your first and ONLY language better than you.

You people are so dumb I can't even feel sorry. Your monolingual dumbness is in fact a threat to the human race. Pray I don't succeed in running the planet in 20 years. But at the rate I'm going, at the very least I will be everyone's boss here.
12 golfcronie (#) May 28th, 2013 - 03:20 pm Report abuse
To coin a phrase in “ morecombe and wise ”
You use all the right words but not necessarily in the right order, no good learning 10 languages and not speaking one correctly.
But heho crack on my beauty, TOODLEPIP
13 Captain Poppy (#) May 28th, 2013 - 03:24 pm Report abuse
The tit meister is back. Did mommy let you off your nipple to come out and play tobi boi? Aren't momma's nipple chaffed yet?
14 yankeeboy (#) May 28th, 2013 - 04:21 pm Report abuse
Toby, In 20 years you'll still be living in a Mendoza slum probably without an internet connection or a computer that works on whatever the current technology is to communicate to the outside world.
15 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) May 28th, 2013 - 04:39 pm Report abuse
No slums in Dorrego, you fool. Nice pretty middle class houses with little flower gardens or aloe vera, and red-brick or marble facades, a one-car garage, and AC/heating.

Brand new mall nearby just opened (I thought you all said I was lying):



Don't worry about me, my future is certain.
16 yankeeboy (#) May 28th, 2013 - 04:55 pm Report abuse
I agree your future is certain, you'll be poorer and dumber than your parent's generation. It is guaranteed.

Oooh Ahh a new mall. Sheesh you have a low low low bar at least there is a McDonalds there so you have somewhere to work. If it ever really opens.
17 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) May 28th, 2013 - 05:06 pm Report abuse
It's better than the modern day American bar:





18 yankeeboy (#) May 28th, 2013 - 05:17 pm Report abuse
Maybe you should go help them bail the water out of Casa Rosada and the Congress!


I told you long ago Argentina will not be able to handle the climate change

and again...

I was right

BTW I know the family who owns the McDonalds if you want a reference. I used to rent her house in PDE.
19 ChrisR (#) May 28th, 2013 - 05:18 pm Report abuse
The picture they are all standing in front of reminds me of a 1960’s Chinese Restaurant I used in my youth.

Pepe just loves to insult his potential benefactors by turning up like a slob.
20 Anbar (#) May 28th, 2013 - 07:27 pm Report abuse
trolley dolley is back on Ye Olde “If i cna find a net link to it, it must be true!” spree again I see.

Along with the classic “IF i keep telling everybody how superior I am to them, somebody will eventually believe me!”

hasnt worked yet mind you... but you never know, perhaps he/she is Chinese.
21 GeoffWard2 (#) May 28th, 2013 - 08:28 pm Report abuse
Jose is aware of the inequalities of the trade bargains; but being aware of it does not stop it happening.
Jose is old but may be a better negotiator than the young business-people.
I wish him success in his primary objectives, and hope he does not have to sell too much of Uruguay to get them.
22 ChrisR (#) May 28th, 2013 - 09:16 pm Report abuse
21 GeoffWard2
“and hope he does not have to sell too much of Uruguay to get them.”

To quote someone else with a massive dilemma:

”To die to sleep,
To sleep, perchance to Dream; Aye, there's the rub,
For in that sleep of death, what dreams may come,”

OR NOT, that’s the real rub!
23 Troy Tempest (#) May 29th, 2013 - 03:24 am Report abuse
Toby Teen!!

A mall !!

How impressive!

You are living in a frickin' UTOPIA !!!

OMG Toby, I am SO sorry !!!

The whole British (and American -USA) world has been sabotaging your success and conspiring to keep you oppressed, but Mendoza needs no foreigners and have proven their moral and inborn superiority with a Super Mall that makes the Anglos and the EU cringe with envy and self-loathing!!

There, feel better?
24 Anglotino (#) May 29th, 2013 - 09:27 am Report abuse
Nostrils says:
“Don't worry about me, my future is certain.”

Nearly everyone here wholeheartedly agrees with you that you are totally unable to escape your future (and your country to boot).

Took a while to sink in but he has finally seen the light that he is about to live through another major Argentine economic crisis.
25 ElaineB (#) May 29th, 2013 - 11:44 am Report abuse
@24 I am not sure why TTT wants to tell us where his parents live. What does that prove exactly?
26 ChrisR (#) May 29th, 2013 - 01:11 pm Report abuse
25 ElaineB

That he actually HAS parents?
27 Troy Tempest (#) May 29th, 2013 - 02:59 pm Report abuse
@15Teen Troll Toby

“No slums in Dorrego, you fool. Nice pretty middle class houses with little flower gardens or aloe vera, and red-brick or marble facades, a one-car garage, and AC/heating. ”

One car garage, only?
Flower gardens?

Is that “upscale” where you come from?
Every little house in East LA can boast those things, as well as cheap RELIABLE electricity and well maintained infrastructure.

I wanted to have a look at your parents neighbourhood, but you are not advanced enough, or considered important enough by Google, for them to have invested in “Streetview” for that part of SA.

Where. Is that new mall?

Is the Governor of Mendoza coming for the Opening Ceremonies??
28 manchesterlad (#) May 29th, 2013 - 03:42 pm Report abuse
He only has one parent....his English father abandoned him as a child because he was so dumb & ugly, hence the hatred of everything English
Poor Baaaaaastard!!!
29 Hepatia (#) May 29th, 2013 - 03:50 pm Report abuse
Mujica may, or may not, know much about Chinese history but I hope he knows his American history.

The irony is that it was the American trade that ultimately brought down the Ming Dynasty and simultaneously improverished Spain. It seems that the leaders of the PRC understand the problem as evidenced by complaints about exchange rate “fixing” of the RMB since the Clinton administration. And, from this article, it seems that the leaders of Argentina and Brazil are also aware of the problem.
30 British_Kirchnerist (#) Jun 06th, 2013 - 07:23 pm Report abuse
#29 “The irony is that it was the American trade that ultimately brought down the Ming Dynasty and simultaneously improverished Spain”

Amazing, wish I'd seen this earlier as I know this thread is about to close, but if you can, in the next few hours or on another thread sometime, give more details and links on that I'd be most interested and grateful...
31 Captain Poppy (#) Jun 06th, 2013 - 09:27 pm Report abuse
Hep C yoo're a real virus.....always mutating. Stay on topic. Though it will matter little soon. Argentina is so far gone even you trolls hardly post anymore and when you do....it's usually anger.
32 ChrisR (#) Jun 06th, 2013 - 09:32 pm Report abuse
30 BSK

This is first year senior school stuff, why don’t you check it for yourself?
33 rylang23 (#) Jun 06th, 2013 - 11:03 pm Report abuse
Snide remark, Chris. Saw one from Captain Poppy above. Let's all try to be helpful here. I've tried to clean up my act..... I hope.

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