Monday, June 10th 2013 - 19:17 UTC

Influenza ‘A’ strain hits Argentina: 7 dead in Buenos Aires province, one in Cordoba

Buenos Aires province health authorities confirmed on Monday that seven people have died in the last month from the influenza A virus and 40 people have been reported infected by the H1N1 strain. However the authorities do not consider it an epidemic behaviour similar to that of 2009.

Buenos Aires province director of health primary care Luis Crovetto made the information public

According to the Buenos Aires province director of health primary care Luis Crovetto, four deaths were reported in the localities of San Martín, Tornquist, Hurlingham and Mar del Plata. Other three fatal victims were reported at Cetrángolo Hospital, located in Vicente López, in the Northern area of Buenos Aires province.

“We have 40 cases in the province, 5 or 6 more than in the same period of last year, but we are certainly not before an outbreak” Crovetto said adding one of them is hospitalized in a serious condition in Quilmes locality.

”The disease is not registering an epidemic behaviour like in 2009,” he explained but urged people to get the flu vaccine. “This does not mean concern but rather awareness”, he insisted.

Dr Salvador Pace medical chief of the Cetrangolo Hospital said that they received four patients, three died and the other one is in serious condition. However they were ‘middle age cases with associated weaknesses which made them more vulnerable, and they were not vaccinated”.

Last Thursday the province of Cordoba in Central Argentina reported the first fatal case of the A flu H1N1 strain. Currently there are forty hospitalized patients in Cordoba with the symptoms and long queues waiting to be vaccinated.
 

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1 Briton (#) Jun 10th, 2013 - 07:38 pm Report abuse
As much as we hate to say this,
We did warn you, that the bird flue in its many disguises way heading your way,

Let’s hope the guys at the top finds a cure for you all,
After all, we don’t want this killer spreading to other innocent people..

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2 yankeeboy (#) Jun 10th, 2013 - 08:34 pm Report abuse
My oh my didn't I mention this a week or two ago?
I think I also said THERE IS A VACCINE
but apparently not in Argentina
I guess it is cheaper to let people die.
3 MagnusMaster (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 02:40 am Report abuse
@2 the government is already telling people at risk to take the vaccine.
4 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 03:20 am Report abuse
@2

Apparently, no, not apparently. You are a an imbecile.

@1

How did you guess the various types of FLU would come to Argentina this time of year?

I mean sheesh, it's not like you could have guessed it's turning into WINTER right about now and the flu has a knack of liking that time of year. duh.
5 JamesS (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 03:41 am Report abuse
@4 .... If it was a case of the season change then the government could of prevented these death by giving vaccines before the winter sets in !!
6 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 03:53 am Report abuse
Oh yeah? And in which country are flu vaccines FREELY given?

None.
7 reality check (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 04:48 am Report abuse
Here!!!!!

Smart ass know all.
8 LEPRecon (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 05:48 am Report abuse
@6 Tobias

In the UK the vaccine is given freely to ALL elderly people, children, families with young children, health workers, the police, the fire service, the Armed Forces, people with suppressed immune systems, and other vulnerable people.

If a person doesn't fall within these categories they can buy a vaccine at a local pharmacy, for about US$ 10, and have it injected on site at NO extra cost. In fact many large businesses in the UK pay for all of their workers to get vaccinated, as it reduces sick days, and the knock on effect on productivity and profits, so it's money well spent.

Every year before flu season the Health Department runs a campaign encouraging people to get vaccinated.

Now even so, there will always be people who die of influenza, not matter what.

The question is: What is the Argentine governments Health Department doing about the influenza in Argentina?

Is it running its own health and awareness campaign? Is it giving free vaccines to the most vulnerable in society?

Can you answer these simple questions without resorting to form and being racist and insulting?
9 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 06:47 am
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10 yankeeboy (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 10:50 am Report abuse
6. Same in the USA.
11 agent999 (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 11:47 am Report abuse
@6 dumb trolley

as it is in Argentina for vulnerable groups!

www.clarin.com/salud/grupos-riesgo-vacuna-obligatoria-gratuita_0_935906446.html
12 yankeeboy (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 11:54 am Report abuse
11. Don't believe that the gov't has enough supply, they don't.

Plus to control this they would have already had to vaccinate all the health workers and they haven't.

Watch Venezuela, their health system is on the verge of collapse over the flu.

It's not even cold or winter yet in Arg. This is just the beginning.
13 Troy Tempest (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 12:43 pm Report abuse
6

Same in Canada

Silly Trolley
14 Pete Bog (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 12:47 pm Report abuse
Another good reason for the Falkland Islanders not to become Argentine when their own healthcare is better managed.

Arrogant Argentina just does not have the common sense to run their country like FIG does.

Go on CFK, pay the FIG as consultants, and your economy, healthcare, education etc etc will improve.

You know it makes sense.
15 Clyde15 (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 12:50 pm Report abuse
#6
In the UK. I get mine free from my G.P. annually in October/November. A letter is sent out to phone the surgery for a suitable appointment time.
16 Welsh Wizard (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 01:54 pm Report abuse
@15

I don't. I fcuking man-up and grow a pair and pity the 'flu
17 reality check (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 02:36 pm Report abuse
Same as Clyde, caught a virus in 2000 aged 45, left me asthmatic, now classed as at risk and get my letter for the shot once a year. Not garaunteed to protect from the H1n1. Some people do well to remember the Spanish Influenza Pandemic of early last century, killed millions, more people that died on all sides put together in the Great War!
18 Trunce (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 03:04 pm Report abuse
@16

Viral infections are indiscriminate of ones testicular mass. Indeed Mumps virus will endeavour to increase your blessing - with a possibility of future infertility.

www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Mumps/Pages/Complications.aspx

Recent outbreaks of Coronovirus have caused concern of possible pandemic, with high mortality rates.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-22691699

As has strains of avian flu virus.

health.india.com/news/china-confirms-131-bird-flu-cases-39-deaths/

reality check refers to the 'Spanish Flu' outbreak in 1918, which had an estimated mortality of 50 - 100 million.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_flu_pandemic

On a lighter note, I see that comment @9 has been removed - presumably because it was in Spaniarge.

“Te puedo explicar. Lo que haga el Reino Unido sobre la salud pública le importa un pepino a la Argentina. Acá el que quiere una vacuna de la gripe.... bueno major no entro en detalles. Si fuera gratuita, gritarías “comunismo”! Si no fuese gratuita aullarías “violadores de derechos humanos”. Así son ustedes los anglos, dicen una cosa para momentos despúes decir otra. El dia que poseyeren un poco más de honestidad, podrán discutir conmigo asuntos internos del pais. He participado de estos foros por un año y medio y decididamente no estan mentalmente preparados para eso.”

I ran it through Google translate and-

I can explain. What do the UK public health care a whit to Argentina. Here you want a flu shot .... good best not go into details. If free, yell “communism”! If it was not free aullarías “human rights violators”. So are you Anglos, they say one thing to say moments later date after another. The day of their possession a little more honesty, will discuss internal affairs of the country with me. I have participated in these forums for a year and a half and are definitely not mentally prepared for that.

Does anyone have a translator for the result?
19 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 03:55 pm Report abuse
Is mercopress a cultural supremacist outfit now?

It erased my non-English reponses in THREE articles. PATHETIC.
20 ElaineB (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 04:06 pm Report abuse
@19 It is very simple. The board asks for comments in English because this is an English language board. Nothing more than that. The rules are under every article.
21 agent999 (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 04:12 pm Report abuse
19
A pathetic comment from the troll
22 Clyde15 (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 04:17 pm Report abuse
#16
I don't quite know what you are on about. You cannot “man up ” and avoid a virus. It can kill even the seemingly fittest person. If you wish to play Russian roulette with your health, good luck to you.
#19
I would not know if this is the case however the rules for posting are clearly stated at the top of this page under comments :-
“Comments must be in English. Thank you.”
If you wish to ignore it why are you surprised it has been removed ?
I have also noticed that you have been inserting Chinese characters into some of your posts. This may result in these posts being removed.
23 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 04:18 pm Report abuse
@20, 21

I thought you people were about democracy, freedom, choice, and meritocracy. So why keep the culturally savvy down to make the monolingual hoards feel better about their inadequacies???

Thank you for proving my point.
24 Troy Tempest (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 04:19 pm Report abuse
16toby teen of tedium

“I have participated in these forums for a year and a half and are definitely not mentally prepared for that”

“A year and a half” - And yet, still you cannot comprehend the rules or abide by them if you do.

Nobody is discriminating against you.

Everyone must abide by these rules, however it has not prevented you from abiding several others as well.

Do you think if we posted in English on your Spanish fora that they would be tolerated?

“Not mentally prepared for that”!!!

LOL !
25 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 04:24 pm Report abuse
@24

Actually they allow all Latin alphabet based languages in German, French, Spanish, Italian, and Latin American papers, as well as obviously in Asia.

The only intolerant anti-democracy ones are the Anglo press. I think it's both authoritarianism and cultural supremacism stemming from the insecurity that the world is blowing by now the Anglos and they are wholly unprepared for the world of 10-20 years from now.
26 Troy Tempest (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 04:28 pm Report abuse
25TIT

. I think it's both authoritarianism and cultural supremacism stemming from your own insecurity that the world is blowing by you now, and you and Argentina are wholly unprepared for the world of 10-20 years from now.

There, all corrected now!!
27 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 04:32 pm Report abuse
@26

“There, all corrected now”

It's “fixed” you idiot! Fixed! You read like a damn fool when you type it wrong!
28 yankeeboy (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 04:35 pm Report abuse
25. My guess is in 20-25 years the avg Argentinian will not have the means to communicate with the outside world.
The best they'll have is what is equivalent to a rotary phone now.

I think it is hilarious that they don't remember that from 50-78 they were so isolated and didn't even have color TV! So easy to forget your recent past and so easy to fall back into it.
29 Troy Tempest (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 04:43 pm Report abuse
27TUT TUT

No, “corrected” is correct!

:-D

Poor Toby
30 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 04:47 pm Report abuse
@28

Your country has no bullet trains (Europe, Japan, China do)
Your country had no hi-def tv for 2 decades before Japan
Your country has none of the tallest buildings anymore
Your country needs Russia to send men to space now
Your country is now 32nd behind Slovenia in math

But we have some oil taken from fractures in our most productive agricultural region, thus poisoning the food supply an ensuring in 5-10 no one on Earth will want to buy our crops!

hahahaha.... USA USA USA.
31 ChrisR (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 04:56 pm Report abuse
TTT

If you do not like using English on an English site THEN LEAVE AND LET THAT BE THE END OF IT.

BTW: I have asked for your totally French comment to be removed, if you are wondering who did it.

:o)
32 yankeeboy (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 05:06 pm Report abuse
30. What a very odd list!
Did you know we are working on exploring Mars? We did the close -in manned space thing 40 yrs ago. Nothing to prove there.

Tallest buildings in the world, well they did a little study about that every country that built the then tallest building immediately went into an economic crash...so yeah..no thanks

Bullet trains are not economical with such a large land mass that is why we have so many airports and LOTS AND LOTS OF private jets.

HGTV...er um same reason our landmass is so large it takes us longer to adapt it has nothing to do with the ability to afford it. Not like the problem you have currently and in the next generation.

Schools, I'd rather have most of the top tier research universities in the world and the best pure research facilities in the world. NIH DARPA NSF and we can throw in Google, IBM, HP, APPLE, INTEL...more and more and more. Can't imagine more opportunity anywhere else.
33 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 05:15 pm
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34 Troy Tempest (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 05:16 pm
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35 yankeeboy (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 05:24 pm Report abuse
They say iin less than 10 years the farmland in Argentina will be so poisoned that it won't grow anything.
My guess is sooner since the farmers are buying the bare minimum of fertilizer.
The USA will be happy to sell you flour. I hear you are looking for supplier now since you're going to run out by Oct.
36 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 05:30 pm Report abuse
So let me get this straight: the land will be POISONED by the use of LESS fertilizer.

hahahaha, this desperation to type utter written excrement leads to mental farts like the above. Like I said, what a sucker.
37 yankeeboy (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 05:32 pm Report abuse
Nope poisoned with pesticides and made barren without fertilizer.
Sorry I forgot you're retarded.
38 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 05:38 pm Report abuse
You people are the most brainwashed in the history of life about Argentina. It is amazing all the things that have been said since Kirchner took power 10 years ago, and 98% of the claims have proven to be such total delusions.

Sad sad sad.
39 yankeeboy (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 05:44 pm Report abuse
Funny to the rest of the world it looks like everything that was predicted is or has come to fruition.
But that's just the rest of the world....

You do know that the old hag BCRA Prez, the one that is in jail now, was actually laughed at during a World Bank summit when she talked about a heterodox economy in Argentina. Laughed at, out load and that dumb bunny had no idea why.

Good gracious
40 ElaineB (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 05:44 pm Report abuse
Which claims do you think are true, TTT?
41 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 05:46 pm Report abuse
The claims that they are corrupt and have a paranoid personality. I can believe.
42 Troy Tempest (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 05:55 pm Report abuse
TTT

Toby Tedium

I'm going to let you in on a secret.

You would never have guessed it, and I'm sure you don't know it already,with your limited reasoning skills.

MercoPress is a PRIVATE company that exists to make a profit.

They are not obligated to you in any way, except that they cannot make public your private information that they have collected - unless it says in their Disclaimer that they can SELL that data.

They can create any rules of conduct they wish, especially if it is to protect themselves.
It is far easier for them to police this site if they only need to deal with one language for content and accuracy.
Therefore, NO Spanish.

Merco Press makes money from their advertisers. They, in turn, monitor the activity, popularity, and traffic on the site.

ie. the more posts, the better, and the more valuable MP is for disseminating information to the market.

The valuable MP is as a resource, the more they can charge to advertise here.

Do you see the connection????

Everytime you or one of your multiple identities or Thinks sock puppets posts on here, “ I hate the British”, Merco Press makes money !!

Thanks for contributing to this very successful enterprise !!!

LOL, you doofus!!!
43 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 05:58 pm Report abuse
I think they make far more money with the “I hate argies” harangues you and your side daily spew.
44 Health Alert! (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 06:06 pm
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45 Troy Tempest (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 06:06 pm Report abuse
43 TEENY Troll

“I think they make far more money with the “I hate argies” harangues”

Ahhh, but we thank you!!

“KA-chinng”

BTW,
who do you think would be interested buying the data of Trolls that post hostile remarks against the UK?
46 ElaineB (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 06:21 pm Report abuse
@41 Ah, then we agree on that. It is the fundamental basis of all my complaint about the Argentine government.
47 Troy Tempest (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 06:38 pm Report abuse
43 TIT

the irony is lost on you, isn't it Toby?

Btw, ironic too, that you support a government who is wilfully deficient in a vaccine program for its poorest citizens, and you accuse is of being “Communists” for having one.

*rolls eyes*

I feel sorry for your people.
48 Briton (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 07:07 pm Report abuse
4 TroLLey_to_Truth
How did you guess the various types of FLU would come to Argentina this time of year?
,,,,,,,,,,
Eye did not guess,
It was in the papers that it had reached Argentina with fatalities,

The government must now try to solve the problem becoming widespread for everyone’s sake..

.
49 Captain Poppy (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 07:14 pm Report abuse
“amazing all the things that have been said since Kirchner took power 10 years ago, and 98% of the claims have proven to be such total delusions. ”

Could you please elaborate on what was said and links to p[rove the 98%

thank you
50 Troy Tempest (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 07:20 pm Report abuse
49Poppy

Forget it Captain,

He's singed his paw and run away - we won't see him here again!

Anglos WIN!!!

Yay!!!
51 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 07:30 pm Report abuse
Unlike you unemployment suckers I have to study and a life.

I leave you with this: “Europe sees the USA as new Stasi-state”

news.yahoo.com/germans-accuse-u-stasi-tactics-obama-visit-155231116.html;_ylt=Aq85pqDqEMZDN2sSNS4TvN5S_tx_;_ylu=X3oDMTVxZHRqdDN2BGNjb2RlA2dtcHRvcDEwMDBwb29sd2lraXVwcmVzdARtaXQDQXJ0aWNsZSBNaXhlZCBMaXN0IE5ld3MgZm9yIFlvdSB3aXRoIE1vcmUgTGluawRwa2cDZWY0YTMyODItMmNlZS0zZGQ0LTk1ZTUtNzI4MmNkZDljMDllBHBvcwM3BHNlYwNuZXdzX2Zvcl95b3UEdmVyAzE4MDMzN2IyLWQyYWYtMTFlMi1hZmJmLTMwYmNkNjg3NTI0MQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTFhbjBjN2dqBGxhbmcDZW4tVVMEdGVzdANIUl9Tb2NpYWxfTGlnaHRib3hfQ29udHJvbA--;_ylv=3

The only ones that don't see they are no longer a democracy are the foolish Americans. hahahaha.

USA USA USA ... laters.
52 Captain Poppy (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 09:09 pm Report abuse
He's also a rabid little teenager that knows nothing of the world other than what he lives vicariously trapped in momma's shanty in messy mendoza. Poor kid, if he wasn't such an asshole one could almopst empathize with his sorrow.......not!
53 yankeeboy (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 09:38 pm Report abuse
I see that the Kirchner Companies were the low bidder on the Nestor Dam.
Isn't that sweet
What a lovely place
54 Captain Poppy (#) Jun 11th, 2013 - 10:51 pm Report abuse
Where did you find that Yankee? Apparently Argentina does not require their leader to put their assets into a blind trust to defuse the perception of financial gain in office, like most democratic nations. Not that it would matter in Argentina.
55 Troy Tempest (#) Jun 12th, 2013 - 12:18 am Report abuse
Captain

He has no intention of having a serious discussion, or even a logical argument. As you Americans say, “he is running interference” , no substance just distraction.

How many times has he repeated things that we have refuted at length many times before?

Forget him. It is not even worth disputing his transparent lies.

He'll keep baiting and goading, but Without the attention he seeks he'll go away.

I have to admit though, sometimes the temptation to antagonise Hume is too much.

:-)
56 Captain Poppy (#) Jun 12th, 2013 - 12:37 am Report abuse
Troy he goes through cycles or phases in his posts. His emotions bleed through his words. It is rather humorous to read and see over time. His youth, immaturity and lack of experience betrays his desire, whether real or otherwise. He does not even know when he should be embarrassed.
57 yankeeboy (#) Jun 12th, 2013 - 12:21 pm Report abuse
Rut Ro...Gov't out of flu vaccine already

I wonder if its the vaccine or syringes
My guess it's a little of both
58 Captain Poppy (#) Jun 12th, 2013 - 04:14 pm Report abuse
It's pathetic to see what she does to her people.
59 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) Jun 12th, 2013 - 05:26 pm
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60 Troy Tempest (#) Jun 12th, 2013 - 06:34 pm Report abuse
Yawn, he wants attention again
61 TroLLey_to_Truth (#) Jun 12th, 2013 - 06:45 pm Report abuse
So now they are removing my ENGLISH language comments. Typical Anglo website, no democracy, no freedom. That's the anglo culture.
62 reality check (#) Jun 12th, 2013 - 08:15 pm Report abuse
If they need the vaccine and the means to administer it, then it should be provided to them, otherwise as usual it will be the young, elderly and weak that suffer and I have no argument with them.
63 Captain Poppy (#) Jun 12th, 2013 - 08:23 pm Report abuse
titti boi, you have no idea what democracy, nor argentina, hence they excessive use of the word.

angry little milk boi. When id your 14th birthday? I walk to send you cow milk to save your momma's nipples, they must be awefully chaved by now.
64 yankeeboy (#) Jun 12th, 2013 - 08:46 pm Report abuse
61.How could this message board be democratic?
It is a privately owned business they can do whatever they want.

You are seriously retarded.

I hear the gov't is asking for payment in U$ to get flu shot... hahahha
65 Captain Poppy (#) Jun 12th, 2013 - 09:05 pm Report abuse
Privately owned is the magic phrase they fail to understand Yankee.
66 Conor J (#) Jun 12th, 2013 - 09:11 pm Report abuse
@61
“So now they are removing my ENGLISH language comments. Typical Anglo website, no democracy, no freedom. That's the anglo culture.”

Oh how little you know of the world you silly fool! Modern democracy and freedom were created in the Anglo countries, not the Latin nations like Spain which you are a product of.
67 Anglotino (#) Jun 13th, 2013 - 05:58 am Report abuse
Didn't know Uruguay was an “Anglo” nation.

Oh by the way, free flu vaccines here too for those at risk.
68 Troy Tempest (#) Jun 13th, 2013 - 06:31 am Report abuse
61. TIT

Your deleted post was off-topic and consisted of nothing but insults, provocation, and offensive language - it was against the rules.

I asked them to remove it on that basis.
69 nerosaxo (#) Jun 13th, 2013 - 10:34 am Report abuse
Hold on People! This is about a Potentially Lethal Pandemic. Quit the Petty Squabbling. Lets concentrate on making sure there is an adequate supply of vaccine for all.
PLEASE!
70 Captain Poppy (#) Jun 13th, 2013 - 11:22 am Report abuse
#69 Tell that to asslips kirchner. She is the only one that can allow the vaccine imported or pay for it.
71 yankeeboy (#) Jun 13th, 2013 - 12:08 pm Report abuse
They are probably trying to make it in-country and f'ing it up.

They did this with a Hep C vaccine, tried to replicated ( by that I mean steal) the formula but they did it wrong so it caused severe liver damage and ruined the ability for any other Hep vaccine to be effective.

Not a smart people
72 LEPRecon (#) Jun 13th, 2013 - 03:55 pm Report abuse
@69 nerosaxo

No one is making fun of this, only the Argentine poster who is extremely deluded. In fact, if anything they are concerned about the lack of vaccine available for the Argentine people. This hasn't even reached the epidemic phase yet, let alone looking like it would be a pandemic.

The last 'real' (as in not hyped up by the media and an actual world wide problem) pandemic of influenza was in 1918. It killed over 20,000,000 people.

However, the Argentine medical services are in disarray, so this has a potential to become an epidemic in Argentina. The government needs to spend money on buying, distributing and giving the vaccine immediately, and should do so every year.

It is expensive in the initial outlay, but it saves lives, and money as the healthcare services are not inundated with tens of thousands of infected people.

The real problem though is that the Argentine government and its systems are so corrupt, that everyone wants their slice of the 'pie' which puts costs through the roof, as each layer of government skims off their portion of the money.

The only people who really suffer though are the most vulnerable in society.

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