Tuesday, June 18th 2013 - 02:45 UTC

British tapped phones and computers of G20 summit held in London, claims The Guardian

Foreign politicians could have had their telephones and computers intercepted in G20 summit meetings in London in 2009, a group to which Argentina belongs, according to an exclusive report carried out by British newspaper The Guardian after it gained access to certain documents that could cause problems for the British government.

Argentine president Cristina Fernandez attended the meeting which then PM Gordon Brown wanted a successful outcome of the summit

This controversial news has broken out as Britain prepares to host a G8 summit on Monday in Northern Ireland. All of the G8 countries participated in the 2009 meetings and, according to the report, were “systematically spied on.”

The news raises questions over the roll of the Government Communication Headquarters (GCHQ), believed to have tapped telephone calls, and its US sister organization, the National Security Agency.

One of these meetings is remembered for Barack Obama snubbing Argentina’s Cristina Fernández, when the latter made a special effort to arrive early to greet the US president, but when she held out her hand he strangely walked straight past.

At another meeting attended by the Argentine president the UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown opened proceedings, flanked by Obama.

This was in April of 2009, during the 27-year anniversary of the war breaking out between Britain and Argentina. CFK made her presence felt, paying tribute to the Argentine soldiers killed in the Falklands’ war, a move unexpected by everyone as she was the first president of Argentina to commemorate the conflict on British soil.

The Guardian reports on members’ conversations being monitored at that time. It also claims that fake Internet cafes were set up where they used an email interception programme and key-logging software to spy on delegates’ use of computers.

There have often been rumours of espionage taking place at international conferences of this type, but until now nothing has been confirmed by any conclusive evidence.

The documents suggest that the operation was sanctioned in principle at a senior level in the government of the then prime minister, Gordon Brown, and that intelligence, including briefings for visiting delegates, was passed to British ministers.

A briefing paper dated 20 January 2009 records advice given by GCHQ officials to their director, Sir Iain Lobban, who was planning to meet the then Foreign Secretary, David Miliband. The officials summarized Brown's aims for the meeting of G20 heads of state due to begin on 2 April, which was attempting to deal with the economic aftermath of the 2008 banking crisis.

The briefing paper added: “The GCHQ intent is to ensure that intelligence relevant to HMG's desired outcomes for its presidency of the G20 reaches customers at the right time and in a form which allows them to make full use of it.” Two documents explicitly refer to the intelligence product being passed to “ministers”.

 

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1 Britworker (#) Jun 18th, 2013 - 07:36 am Report abuse
Everyone does it, infact I think it would be more remiss if they hadn't have tapped their conversations, especially that mad bitch in Argentina.
2 Redrow (#) Jun 18th, 2013 - 07:40 am Report abuse
Surely all politicians visiting foreign countries assume their communications to be vulnerable and so don't say anything of import? Is this not just new evidence telling us what everyone already knew?
3 LEPRecon (#) Jun 18th, 2013 - 08:08 am Report abuse
Exactly.

Everyone spies on everyone else be they enemy, neutral or friend. That's how the game is played, and everyone expects it.

It has been going on since the dawn of time. And when people watch their neighbours, or read a newspaper story of the private life of a celebrity, they are also involved in 'spying'.

The only thing that surprises me are all the people who are 'outraged' by this. Are they completely stupid or something. They really need to get a life.
4 Gordo1 (#) Jun 18th, 2013 - 08:29 am Report abuse
Why don't we spy on Timrman and then publish it all on YouTube for the amusement of all and sundry!
5 Conqueror (#) Jun 18th, 2013 - 11:19 am Report abuse
Let's not forget that this is in The Guardian. A newspaper noted for its ability to employ lefty fruitcakes.
6 ChrisR (#) Jun 18th, 2013 - 11:25 am Report abuse
But just look at that picture: the cunt Brown shaking hands with another well known set of female genetalia (if the rumours are true).
7 Anglotino (#) Jun 18th, 2013 - 12:31 pm Report abuse
“until now nothing has been confirmed by any conclusive evidence”

Seems there still isn't conclusive evidence.
8 Yuleno (#) Jun 18th, 2013 - 12:39 pm Report abuse
3# LEP
It was the smelly Brits who where outraged at Russian espionage activities.
They also where outraged at chinese activities
It's only when the Brits/yanks are caught everyone is supposed to expect it.
You are a true Brit aren't you.I mean in their worsed aspects.
9 Vestige (#) Jun 18th, 2013 - 01:00 pm Report abuse
Obama shakes CFKs hand: www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJuigaQDiUY
10mins 12 sec.
(mercopress doing its teenage girl act omg he totally walked by her and then he said hi to Dilma and she was like standing right beside Brown)

Anyway -
In the middle of a conference behind smiles and handshakes, during attempts at resolution and understanding.

Thats the exact reason why we have the perjoritive term
'perfidious albion'.

Inviting neighbors to dinner ... and then secretly going through their handbag/coat.

When this comes out as true the world will see it as a complete lack of etiquette and worthy of Stalin.
10 Welsh Wizard (#) Jun 18th, 2013 - 02:00 pm Report abuse
Getting caught doing this is a piss poor effort
11 Pete Bog (#) Jun 18th, 2013 - 02:04 pm Report abuse
Argentina should have seen what was coming when even Gordon Brown a complete idiot, would not discuss Falklands sovereignty with CFK
@4
“Why don't we spy on Timrman and then publish it all on YouTube for the amusement of all and sundry!”

With this proviso-it must not be shown to the troops on the Falklands, in case they are disabled with uncontrolled laughter, thus allowing the RGs to invade with their ships towed in by tugboats.
12 LEPRecon (#) Jun 18th, 2013 - 03:05 pm Report abuse
@8 Yuleno

No, the majority of us weren't outraged. The is standard operating procedure for every country in the world.

The only thing to get outraged about would be the failings of the security services if these attempts aren't stopped before they can do damage.

Now Yuleno, try and post something that actually makes sense. And see if you can stop resorting to name calling, because it really shows you up for the know nothing that you are.
13 Conqueror (#) Jun 18th, 2013 - 03:15 pm Report abuse
“One of these meetings is remembered for Barack Obama snubbing Argentina’s Cristina Fernández, when the latter made a special effort to arrive early to greet the US president, but when she held out her hand he strangely walked straight past.” Why is it “strangely”. He could probably smell the rot and thought “Not touching THAT!”
@8 You misunderstand. Actually, no-one else could have done it. And it's taken “The Guardian” (spit) 4 years to find out. Bit late, eh? But now, everybody will be wondering who's tapping and hacking whom. This is clever because CFK or her cronies won't be able to “surprise” anyone. And that's the purpose of an “intelligence” service. But I understand your concern. In argieland, isn't “intelligence service” synonymous with “Gestapo”?
@9 No. IF this comes out to be true various world “leaders” will come out with expressions of shock. Meanwhile, their “intelligence services” will be saying “Why didn't we think of doing that?” “Thats the exact reason why we have the perjoritive term 'perfidious albion'. Really? Who's ”we“? The term actually originated with the French. And they know all about perfidy. Perhaps you'd like to draw a comparison with ”viveza criolla“? But I've got a better phrase for you. ”In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king“. And so I expect that we will keep one eye open and watch all you blind idiots stumbling around. You must be blind. Why else would you let an incompetent, thieving bitch run your country?
@11 Don't be daft. Argies don't have ”ships, they have hulks. Here's the detail. For 2013, only 15 of their 42 navy vessels are operational. Those 15 ships can manage less than 11 days at sea each. They can't even manage 6 months between them! Their submarine “force” is even better. There are 3 boats. In 2012, they managed a total of 19 hours submerged for all 3. No doubt with one foot on the bottom!
14 Samuri Sue (#) Jun 18th, 2013 - 04:01 pm Report abuse
Obama's 2009 snub of Ms. Fernandez is one of the few things he has done of which I approve. CFK and her claque are not able to hide their naked greed trying to grab the Falkland's petroleum revenues. Their claim has no basis from history and none in the realpolitik of today. Hopefully, Argentina will vote the “lady” out of office and elect someone who will be able to put a beautiful country right.
15 Bryzi (#) Jun 18th, 2013 - 04:23 pm Report abuse
To be perfectly honest all the countries that claim “outrage” are at it as well. Just better if you dont get caught doing it really :)
16 Vestige (#) Jun 18th, 2013 - 04:39 pm Report abuse
13 - LoL, The shock will be from other diplomats and intelligence agencies saying 'how could they be so stupid'. Im sure G.B isn't the first to think of doing this, it is however the present day first to risk it and get caught.

In the kingdom of the blind the one eyed man just realized that it turns out he made a wrong turn and is in the kingdom of the fully sighted with egg on his face.

“You must be blind?” - eh, a privately held newspaper just infiltrated your governments records and published embarrassing secrets for the world to see .

Whos stumbling mumbling and grumbling now, wriggle wriggle, I expect to see govt spokespeople and committees, closed meetings with ambassadors, maybe some sacrificial lambs as penance.
Dear Vladimir ....

14 Samuri Sue - Hopefully, Argentina will vote the “lady” out of office and elect someone who will be able to put a beautiful country right.

Again, don't go thinking her replacement will have a different policy on the islands. Your personal hatred for CFK is somewhat illogical.
Make your celebration very brief when she finally does step down.
17 Yuleno (#) Jun 18th, 2013 - 05:01 pm Report abuse
Quite obviously getting caught is a major problem and failing to stop what is not identified is a major failing.
What a stupid position to have
Not getting caught means it hasn't be spotted therefore isn't known
Failing to stop means it hasn't been identified and therefore isn't known
No doubt are pinnacle of judgement Lep will not understand and will think it is too obvious to be intelligent,but how would spying that has not been identified not be wrong and when it has been identified be wrong just because it has been identified
Try using a little logic Lep and less stupidity that you aren't even aware of.Politics and logic do have problems with each other but that is because they are not the same.
18 GeoffWard2 (#) Jun 18th, 2013 - 06:02 pm Report abuse
So The Gruniad is publishing information that is prejudical to the stability of the state ...... if this gets any more like Julian Assange the staff of the Gruniad had better seek asylum in the Ecuadorian embassy.

The revealed information is no more interesting or unexpected than the Wikileaks 'revelations' (which largely showed the US in a good light).

The worst part of the article above is the picture. I felt almost physically sick at the sight of the then prime minister; I had forgotten just what revulsion he engendered in me.
19 ChrisR (#) Jun 18th, 2013 - 06:20 pm Report abuse
18 GeoffWard2

So I suspect that you, like me, lost out VERY considerably financially due to this character (better not read 6)?
20 Briton (#) Jun 18th, 2013 - 07:29 pm Report abuse
Oh dear james,
now mi5 know we are having it of,

information, enjoyed by all , read by all ,
unless it happens to be [U ]

lol
21 Pirate Love (#) Jun 18th, 2013 - 08:27 pm Report abuse
hands up those countries who would also like to admit they have tapped phones of foreign big wigs in the history of eaves dropping,
please take a ticket and form an orderly que at the “Nothing New” aisle, Thank you.

good job the article wasn't about overseas assassination it would be chaos!
22 reality check (#) Jun 18th, 2013 - 08:36 pm Report abuse
Where were they before 2nd April 1982? An epic fail that cost the lives of 255 servicemen and 3 Islanders. If intelligence had got wind of it, one submarine or the rumour of one submarine, could have prevented the war.

There! good enough reasoning for why it goes on.
23 Think (#) Jun 18th, 2013 - 08:41 pm Report abuse
(18) GeoffWard2
From Argentina, with love.....
(Open with care)
mms.businesswire.com/bwapps/mediaserver/ViewMedia?mgid=357582&vid=5&download=1
24 Anbar (#) Jun 18th, 2013 - 09:12 pm Report abuse
I find it rather amusing that the Gruniad newspapers outs the Brown Government.

Lefty Spat anyone?
25 GeoffWard2 (#) Jun 19th, 2013 - 09:21 am Report abuse
AAAAAAaaaaarrrrrgggghh !!!

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