Saturday, February 15th 2014 - 06:08 UTC

Chilean president-elect Bachelet blasts Venezuelan repression and Maduro

Following the bloody events of last Wednesday, while countries such as Argentina, Cuba, Bolivia, Ecuador, Nicaragua expressed their full support for the Venezuelan government of President Nicolas Maduro, others were more cautious such as Washington and the Europe Union calling for restraint and dialogue, but Chilean president-elect Michelle Bachelet openly twitted her rejection to repression, to President Maduro and called for a plebiscite.

”...My greatest rejection of (President) Nicolas Maduro. You do not attack the people”, said Bachelet

 ”I repudiate repression in all its forms. Venezuela must hold a plebiscite. My greatest rejection of (President) Nicolas Maduro. You do not attack the people“, said president-elect Bachelet in several twits condemning the iron hand of riot police and the attacks by armed gangs against the students' massive demonstration, which left at least three people killed and over sixty injured.

Bachelet's vehement position is understandable since when she takes office next month her priority task will be precisely the issue of education: fiscal reform to collect sufficient tax-funds to make it more universal, less expensive and eventually free, as was promised to students' leaders during the Chilean presidential campaign.

The massive protests and demonstrations of students for months almost brought down the conservative government of Sebastian Piñera who insisted in keeping the higher education system mostly private, expensive and in real terms mostly accessible for the children of the rich.

Socialist Bachelet campaigned to reverse the situation and managed the support of the students' organizations, but now she might have an additional problem since her coalition allies, who will be holding some posts in the cabinet, the Communist party has officially condemned the massive protests against the government of President Maduro and accused the opposition of conspiring to promote a coup.

”Maduro is doing the right thing on appealing to all the institutional force which has been built by the democratic sovereignty of Bolivarian Venezuela“, said Lautaro Carmona, chairman of the Chilean communist party and elected member of Congress.

”As far as the interests of the working class, and the people in general, there's nothing to be concerned about since the Bolivarian revolution has changed their lives for good“,
Carmona was quoted by Venezuelan financed Telesur. He added the opposition was only 'interested in conspiring to overthrow Maduro and his government with a coup'.

Meanwhile from Brussels Catherine Ashton, EU High representative for foreign policy expressed concern with events in Venezuela and called for a 'peaceful dialogue' among all sides. She insisted that ”freedom of expression and the right to assemble and participate in peaceful demonstrations are essential“ to a democratic system.

However the UN Commissioner for Human Rights, Rupert Colville speaking from Geneva also called on the Venezuela government but demanded that those responsible for attacks on anti-government demonstrators, be detained and sent to court.

”We are particularly concerned with information of attacks against demonstrators by armed groups, acting in impunity, and we are also concerned that the situation could lead to further violence“, said Colville

”We have also received disturbing information about intimidation of journalists, some of which had their equipments confiscated, as well as local and international journalists who were attacked when they were covering the protests“.

Finally Colville claimed that ”some of the arrested demonstrators will be sent to court on charges of terrorism, while others including minors, have been denied contact with their families and lawyers”.

60 comments Feed

Note: Comments do not reflect MercoPress’ opinions. They are the personal view of our users. We wish to keep this as open and unregulated as possible. However, rude or foul language, discriminative comments (based on ethnicity, religion, gender, nationality, sexual orientation or the sort), spamming or any other offensive or inappropriate behaviour will not be tolerated. Please report any inadequate posts to the editor. Comments must be in English. Comments should refer to article. Thank you.

1 CabezaDura2 (#) Feb 15th, 2014 - 06:19 am Report abuse
Wow that was un expected…!!! Not even the US and the EU have the 00 to say that.

You go girl !!

Are we going to see a much more assertive Chile and a positive regional leadership to counter the Brazilian and Venezuelan axis under a new Bachellet gov’t?? I do hope so and look forward to more of these statements and Chile championing principles like human rights and freedom of speech against the likes of Dilma, Cristina, Maduro and Evo
2 Think (#) Feb 15th, 2014 - 07:04 am Report abuse
TWIMC...
Wooooooow...
Good work MercoPress...

But…….; just ONE MINOR detail…

The account…: ”twitter.com/BACHELET2014_” where you got this ”News” from is.... F A L S E.

The ONLY Twitter account Mme. President ”Mami” Bachelet has is the following…: twitter.com/PrensaMichelle

You could have verified the above through Mme. President ”Mami” Bachelet official website…:
michellebachelet.cl/

But I guess you are too busy finding & spreading so many other ”Porkies”…

PS…:
CabezaDura, pebete iluso y malteado….
Chequeá tus fuentes antes de hacer el ridículo….
Saludos a la vieja…;-)
3 Heisenbergcontext (#) Feb 15th, 2014 - 07:08 am Report abuse
Yes, good for Ms Bachelet. In the context of regional politics this is a significant statement and contrasts with CFK's recent comments on the same situation.

Carmona,on the other hand, on the evidence of HIS statement, is a deluded idiot.
4 Think (#) Feb 15th, 2014 - 07:23 am Report abuse
(3) Heisenbergcontext

“And you too, Brutus?”
As I said above to Argie poster Mr. CabezaDura2, please check your sources before embarrassing yourself....
5 Heisenbergcontext (#) Feb 15th, 2014 - 08:25 am Report abuse
@4 Think

”Brutus'? Have you cast yourself in the role of Julius Caesar? Or is it simply that your back is feeling a bit vulnerable right...
6 Britworker (#) Feb 15th, 2014 - 08:33 am Report abuse
Looks like we may be on verge of a 'Latam Spring', hopefully the Argies next when they have finished looting.
7 Think (#) Feb 15th, 2014 - 08:38 am Report abuse
(5) Heisenbergcontext

My back is fine, thanks.....

How is your Anglo penchant for “disinformation”, by the way...?

Did you care to check if I “misinformed” anyone in my post no. (2)...?

Or are you just happy to swallowany hoax story served to you in the Engrish press...?
8 Britworker (#) Feb 15th, 2014 - 08:50 am Report abuse
@7
There seems to be civil unrest all over Bolivarian South America. Why do you 'think' this is?
9 Heisenbergcontext (#) Feb 15th, 2014 - 08:57 am Report abuse
@7 Think

No, the account doesn't seem to exist. Thank you for your diligence in pointing that out. If indeed the story is incorrect, I hope MercoPress will offer a retraction.

Btw, your penchant for grandiosity remains undimmed. Julius...
10 Think (#) Feb 15th, 2014 - 09:16 am Report abuse
(5) Heisenbergcontext
Excuse me to keep mauling you but.....

Most of your previous posts in here have convinced me that you are a quite intelligent and social engaged youngish Australian*....
(*One of my “transparent” Sock-Puppets, if we believe Ozzie poster Mr. Anglolatino)

I'm just flabbergasted by the fact that, in the lord's year of 2014, such an individual can be so easily manipulated by an evident lie from the “Disinformation Machine”....

Mme. President ”Mami” Bachelet has lost her father to that “Machine”...

Mme. President ”Mami” Bachelet had her mother tortured by that “Machine”...

Mme. President ”Mami” Bachelet had live electrodes from that “Machine” introduced in her private parts...

Mme. President ”Mami” Bachelet wouldn't hesitate one millisecond to express her criticism against President Maduro... If necessary...
11 Heisenbergcontext (#) Feb 15th, 2014 - 10:03 am Report abuse
@10 Think

Sadly my intelligence & 'social engagement' chops are not infallible in the face of 'manipulation' from the 'disinformation machine'. I still don't know whether the fact that the twitter account used as the basis for this report ( the one YOU provided ) doesn't now exist, means that the story is neccessarily false.

It seems pretty crude to me, as far as disinformation goes, to produce a story that can so easily be disproved. More like something that might appear in an election for Mayor of Back-of-Beyond rather than an attempt to destabilise Venezuela. You see my point?

Regarding the rest of your post: what are you suggesting? Do you mean “disinformation machine” in the general Orwellian sense or something more specific? A retired Chilean army officer? A cashiered DINA agent? The Dark Side? The C.I.A.?
12 Think (#) Feb 15th, 2014 - 10:22 am Report abuse
(11) Heisenbergcontext

1) The false Bachelet Twitter account does exist. (Something went wrong with my previous link)...: twitter.com/BACHELET2014_

2) One of the beauties of the “Disinformation Machine” is that human proclivity of “Thinking” that the fact that a story is “Utterly, Completely & Evidently” false, doesn't mean that the story is “Neccessarily” false.

3) A retired Chilean army officer? A cashiered DINA agent? The Dark Side? The C.I.A.?, you say......
All working, on the “revolving-door” basis, for the same bosses....
13 Heisenbergcontext (#) Feb 15th, 2014 - 10:55 am Report abuse
@12 Think

Sorry Think, I'm still not convinced.
14 Think (#) Feb 15th, 2014 - 11:08 am Report abuse
(13) Heisenbergcontext
“Still not convinced”, you say...?

What about a Google string-search...?

What about checking the inexisting Chilean Press reports about that inexisting “ Chilean Presidential Tweet”...?

What about checking the many “thinking” Chileans twitters comments on that inexisting “Presidential Tweet”...?
twitter.com/BACHELET2014_/status/433843069944078336
15 Heisenbergcontext (#) Feb 15th, 2014 - 11:43 am Report abuse
@14 Think

a) Lol, mate my 10yr old nephew's computer skills far surpass my own. A 'google string-search' is beyond my ken.

b) Yes, I have checked.

c) Yes, that is much more convincing.

Thing is the only party that I think might benefit from such an easily disputed story is the Venezuelan govt.
16 Think (#) Feb 15th, 2014 - 12:00 pm Report abuse
(15) Heisenbergcontext
“Easily disputed story” you say....

It has taken me some 5 hours to make an intelligent Anglo to admit that there is “maybe” something wrong about this Anglo MercoPress blatant lie....

Imagine how long it would take with the brainwased Anglo Turnips...

Not to mention the brainwashed Argie turnips as Mr. CabezaDura at (1)...
17 Heisenbergcontext (#) Feb 15th, 2014 - 12:59 pm Report abuse
@16 Think

Sheesh...talk about hyperbole, rush to judgement etc...

You do appreciate, I am sure, that the subtlety's of both Chilean political and other culture are unknown to me. Had something similar happened in my own backyard the false notes most likely would have been apparent to me straight away.

And whilst it certainly makes MercoPress look, at best, amateurish, it wasn't THEIR lie was it? And, for all you know an 'Anglo Turnip', with a greater familiarity with the Chilean landscape than I might well have figured out that this story had no substance without any prompting from you.

Thanks to your Woodward & Bernstein cameo we'll never know now will we?
18 Think (#) Feb 15th, 2014 - 02:55 pm Report abuse
Sorry :-(
19 CabezaDura2 (#) Feb 15th, 2014 - 03:19 pm Report abuse
There is a point to why i opened my post like “ Wow ….that was un expected!!”
Of course you heart must of shrunk at the possibility that Left wing president like Bachelet should even consider reprising The great leader of the Bolivarian Revolution of Venezuela which prompted you to go un digging the whereabouts of these sources. Obviously at that late of the night I prefer not inquire much longer and go to bed…

Anyway

Thank got it turned out to be a false alarm didn’t it Think??

Think is happy

Think is right for the first time

Think lost is virginity
20 Kirk Nelson (#) Feb 15th, 2014 - 03:25 pm Report abuse
The government and its oppositions should peacefully work out their differences. Venezuelan's authorities are unable to control and manage properly such cross fire chaos from the economic stand point to the social point.
The government's fundamentally lack of economic understanding in allocating and distributing equitably its resources and profits to its citizens is the core contributor to the present turmoil, otherwise current inflation rate of over 35% would never should happen. In addition currency devaluation and the reduction of the national currency reserves to 25 Billion US would never happens, adding to it continue food and medication scarcities are all indicators of public miss management and Venezuelans cannot benefit from it much worse feel joy, considering that their country is the 5th Oil producer on earth.

Where is the money allocated? Political affiliation is not the answer, but correctly taking care of social issues to its people is the proper answer.

Incorrectly the Government thinks by imprisonment mainly students and journalist and opposition leaders really will stop their claims when indeed it is inflaming higher the existing fire.

Kirk Nelson,
New York, USA
21 ilsen (#) Feb 15th, 2014 - 04:53 pm Report abuse
The truth about recent events in Venezuela

yrj8usi8t5zbg6zcefy4.r.worldssl.net/video/que-el-mundo-sepa-whats-going-on-in-venezuela-en-ingles/
22 Brasileiro (#) Feb 15th, 2014 - 05:23 pm Report abuse
Venezuela is my brother. Brother of total South America. Venezuela is a little brother. Family. Love. Hope. Venezuela is South America. Argentina!
Chile! Peru! Brasil!

We are One!
23 Leiard (#) Feb 15th, 2014 - 05:30 pm Report abuse
@21 ilsen

But Ilsen this cannot be true,
we are assured by all the South American posters here that this is not happening.
we are assured that it is just an evil plot by the US and the west.
we are assured by all their political leaders that there is nothing wrong.
24 CabezaDura2 (#) Feb 15th, 2014 - 05:46 pm Report abuse
22
Im not your brother. Your gov't supports the regimes that destroy Venezuela and Argentina.
25 ilsen (#) Feb 15th, 2014 - 06:12 pm Report abuse
panampost.com/panam-staff/2014/02/14/nobel-laureate-venezuela-an-insult-to-democracy/

PLEASE READ THIS LINK

He speaks for me.
26 yankeeboy (#) Feb 15th, 2014 - 06:47 pm Report abuse
We are all Chavez?
Who?
Where oh where is Stevie?
Hiding under a rock I imagine
What a rube.
27 screenname (#) Feb 15th, 2014 - 07:32 pm Report abuse
does it matter where stevie is?

what are the chances it isn't just another plastic account like Brasileiro (that forgets how bad his English is meant to be every so often) and Heisenbergcontext (that el Thinko seems to have forget was sussed straight away as with a_voice and we all 'ken' it's him).
28 Troy Tempest (#) Feb 15th, 2014 - 08:59 pm Report abuse
We've already exposed the childish simplistic idealism of sock puppet “Anarchist” Stevie.

He backed down on that one after he was ridiculed about how naive he was.

Just like he backed down from being a SUPA TUPA, when he forgot to consistently portray himself as a man in his mid 70's to mid 80's.
“Stevie” even tried to deny he claimed to be a Tupamaro contemporary of Pepe's, but conceded that lie too, when confronted.

Honestly, they'll try anything on.
29 pgerman (#) Feb 16th, 2014 - 02:10 am Report abuse
“Herr Think” agrees with Maduro policies towards demonstrations....“if you do not agree with the Government you are a terrorist”..but in Argentina CFK call those who don't agree with her just “Oligarcas”.

I hope “Chavez little bird” would fly to Argentina to suggest the “Dead Walking Lady” to stop doing stupd things.....

Think.. have you read The Economist last magazine?...I bought one..for myself and for my kids...you should read it..but don't worry it is just imperialist trash
30 Troy Tempest (#) Feb 16th, 2014 - 03:11 am Report abuse
29 pgerman

What was the article, pgerman?

Sounds intriguing - I think I'll have to find it.

Have you noticed that the mainstream Vancouver radio stations are making comments about Venezuela's economy and unrest?
Even Argentina's economy was mentioned.
31 Heisenbergcontext (#) Feb 16th, 2014 - 04:17 am Report abuse
@27

All that rumour mongering and gossip I was subjected to and you still have neither the courtesy or the balls to confront me with anything. I have zero respect for you.
32 Think (#) Feb 16th, 2014 - 09:05 am Report abuse
(31) Heisenbergcontext
MercoPress is a hard place to be an Aussie Tanganykan Pom...
Or a desperate basic houswife Niugini Pomette...
Or a humble Argie geezer from Chubut...
33 ilsen (#) Feb 16th, 2014 - 10:31 am Report abuse
Click on the link below to see recent footage of:
1) Venezuealan National Guard shooting at unarmed student protesters.
2) Venezuealan National Guard throwing rocks at unarmed student protesters. (yes, really! Military throwing rocks at students!!)
3) Venezuealan National Guard overwhelm and chased off by unarmed student protesters.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Buk59e6oYjc

Ok, and now for something quite distressing (you have been warned!). This is the non-arrest of a non-criminal, just some casual police brutality for those who enjoy this sort of thing...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_YgWxCsH3M&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dd_YgWxCsH3M&app=desktop

Reality on the ground, no matter what Chilean president-elect Bachelet did or did not say, is that Venezuela is ruled by a scumbag dictatorial regime that is rapidly losing the plot...
34 yankeeboy (#) Feb 16th, 2014 - 11:42 am Report abuse
33. It is going to be very hard to cut the Chavez cancer out of Venezuela. My guess is CFK is watching and worrying since she has been following the Chavez playbook.
Argentina is not too far behind
Although I don't' think the Military would stand for these kind Gov't atrocities in Argentina.
35 ilsen (#) Feb 16th, 2014 - 11:53 am Report abuse
Toyota and Ford ceased production in Venezuela last week.
Fool Ma-Burro demanded 'someone senior' from Japan should come to him to explain why. Even though Toyota had published a clear press release.

I don't have the sources to hand right now but it is on Bloomburg site. If anyone wants I'll find the links.
36 pgerman (#) Feb 16th, 2014 - 02:19 pm Report abuse
@30

www.economist.com/news/leaders/21596515-there-are-lessons-many-governments-one-countrys-100-years-decline-parable?
37 Philippe (#) Feb 16th, 2014 - 02:21 pm Report abuse
Good news from Chile. Although Michelle is a socialist, she is a no-nonsense
woman.

Philippe
38 ilsen (#) Feb 16th, 2014 - 03:18 pm Report abuse
@37
Yup, I think she will keep Chile on a strong, sensible course.
39 St.John (#) Feb 16th, 2014 - 03:23 pm Report abuse
The message from the Argentine government i clear:

Way to go! Venezuela - we'll join you ASAP. Also thanks a lot for blocking Twitter pictures to avoid of pictures of police and goons shooting students. You can help us do the same, when we start the old sport of dropping people into the ocean from Hercules planes.
40 Troy Tempest (#) Feb 16th, 2014 - 06:02 pm Report abuse
38 ilsen

Thanks very much for your links.
Very frightening organised government violence against unarmed peaceful protestors!!

Your Caracas Chronicles link is an eye-opener

caracaschronicles.com
41 ilsen (#) Feb 16th, 2014 - 08:09 pm Report abuse
@36 pgerman. Thank you for the link. Excellent article. Highly recommend!

@ 40 Thanks TT, I do what I can with the limited time I have, yet the great love I have for Venezuela.... (& my family both in Vnzla & UK)
I'm also quite fond of Chile, having spent some time there back in the '90s. Fantastic to see it emerging from the dark days... I see Chile as the great hope, (& hopefully future leader), of Lat America.
Anyway, enough nostalgia (even though nostalgia ain't quite as good as it once was... heeheee...)
Anyway, for those interested I suggest:
dolartoday.com/
caracaschronicles.com/
daniel-venezuela.blogspot.co.uk/
panampost.com/
devilsexcrement.com/
transitions.foreignpolicy.com/
venezuela-europa.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/if-you-want-to-know-who-supports.html
Fact: The current, note ‘current’, regime in VNZLA is constantly trying to block some/all of these legitimate websites by threatening the ISPs, has attempted to block Twitter during recent protests and ordered Colombian TV News (NTN24, carried in Vnzla)) channel off the air also.
www.ntn24.com/videos/venezuelas-maduro-calls-ntn24-censorship-decision-state-121709
www.ntn24.com/videos/young-venezuelan-protester-severely-beaten-police-aragua-state-121841
Welcome to the ‘Counter - Revolution’ people…… It might not be televised, but it will be on YouTube!
42 pgerman (#) Feb 16th, 2014 - 09:38 pm Report abuse
@34

No, I disagree with you. Argentina is very far from this situation basically because people are different. I'm not saying better, just different.

CFK was more astute with the “cacerolazos”..she simply ingored them. The best attitude was Dilmas' one who, after some riots, told the press “Brazil people's has talked and I have listened to then”...I would never asked CFK to have such attitude, I know that she, only, can listen her ideas, thoughts and poket...lately just her poket
43 ilsen (#) Feb 16th, 2014 - 11:49 pm Report abuse
The United Nations’ High Commission for Human Rights expressed concern Friday over the recent violence in Venezuela and asked the government there to open an “immediate, exhaustive and impartial” investigation into the protester deaths on Wednesday.

The Commission also called on the government to free all those detained during the violent demonstrations and bring to justice those who have ordered their detentions in flagrant violation of the law.

Where Vnzla goes Kirchner will follow
see
www.ntn24.com/noticias/un-calls-venezuela-free-detained-students-open-investigation-protester-deaths-121775
44 cornelius (#) Feb 17th, 2014 - 01:45 am Report abuse
Are they going to suspend Venezuela from Unasur and Mercosur just like they did to Paraguay?
What about human rights? Arresting the opposition! Killing people! And blaming Uncle Sam and Colombia?
Argentina your next.
Well when the ex-convict Tupamaro from Uruguay and the ex-terrorist communist from Brazil plus the Corrupted idiot from Argentina the Montonera what are they going to do now?
There have never been in history in one decade so many idiots in power in one continent at the same time, what a bunch of losers feel sorry for the productive people in Latin America, but they deserve these idiots.
45 ilsen (#) Feb 17th, 2014 - 02:43 am Report abuse
No one can blame this on Uncle Sam.

Coming soon to a town near you... if you live in an ALBA country...

caracaschronicles.com/2014/02/16/torture-rape-and-ransom/

Please read.
If you wish please share on any social media that you can.
I won't comment any further, just read the damn thing and make up your own minds.
46 Heisenbergcontext (#) Feb 17th, 2014 - 03:42 am Report abuse
The Chilean Ministry of Foreign Affairs has issued a statement:

“The Chilean Govt. fosters a broad and constructive dialogue among all Venezuelan political forces in a framework of adherence to the laws and freedoms of expression...”

In other words as bland and non-committal as the U.S. State Depts recently issued statement.

Not even a statement from the outgoing ( conservative ) President Pinera, and I can't find anything on this MP story anywhere else. I hereby conclude the story is indeed a fake, which makes me feel pretty dumb for believing it.

I also conclude that no-one is going to intervene ( unless you include Cuba ) in Venezuela until the situation gets much worse.

And the bus driver, who probably got his license in a Wheeties packet, has been invited to Ms Bachelet's inaugeration next month. Assuming he hasn't been assassinated by then.
47 ilsen (#) Feb 17th, 2014 - 04:13 am Report abuse
Cuba has more than 'intervened' it is running the show!
Cuba/Venezuela - The bilateral relation includes development aid, joint business ventures, large financial transactions, exchange of energy resources and information technology, and cooperation in the fields of intelligence service and military. A characteristic of Cuba-Venezuela ties is that both nations are exchanging assets among each other which are inexpensive for the sending country but of high significance for the receiving country.
Cuba is an economic wreck after 54 years of Castro leadership and only survives thanks to oil subsidies from Venezuela. In exchange Cuba controls all the levers of state security and intelligence that help chavismo keep a lid on dissent.
There are currently approx. 50,000 Cuban advisors (!) and other Cuban ‘professionals and workers’ in Venezuela...
Is that enough 'intervention' for you?
The wheels on the bus go round and round.... Ma-Burro does not have a clue.
The real power lies in
a) The Boli-bourgeiosie (just google it, I don't have time for these people)
b) The Castro Clan, who are turning VZ into a WILLING client state.
Ma-Burro is no more than the sock-puppets we see on the Argentine/Malvinista/Falkland threads!
48 Troy Tempest (#) Feb 17th, 2014 - 05:28 am Report abuse
47 ilsen

Thanks for your post.
thats a good concise accounting of the situation.
49 Heisenbergcontext (#) Feb 17th, 2014 - 06:17 am Report abuse
@47 Ilsen

I don't need any convincing of the size and nature of Cuba's presence in Venezuela. Cuba has a long history of intervention in other country's affairs. Angola, Nicaragua, Grenada, Ethiopia...did I miss any? Apart from Angola perhaps, where they stayed for a long time, if memory serves, they have never been so entrenched.

In '83 the U.S. intervened in Grenada. That is not going to happen this time. I wish there a neighbour with both the power and the moral authority to resist Venezuela's Cuban and Chavista fueled descent into dystopia, but there are no white knights on the horizon. If a civil war does eventuate I imagine Columbia might provide some assistance, but for the time being things look very bleak for most Venezuelans. I sympathise.

@32 Think

The Bleacher Report's UFC articles and comments provide excellent 'cross-training'.
50 Think (#) Feb 17th, 2014 - 06:37 pm Report abuse
(46) Heisenbergcontext
Don't be so harsh on yourself....
Disinformation work wonders on people....
Do you remember this sweet little pretty girl?
Ain't she gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmfVs3WaE9Y
51 Heisenbergcontext (#) Feb 18th, 2014 - 02:07 am Report abuse
@50 Think

Actually I don't remember that incidence which surprises me. But you shouldn't get too smug - you are a disseminator of disinformation yourself.
52 Think (#) Feb 18th, 2014 - 06:19 pm Report abuse
(51) Heisenbergcontext

Would you please point me to the place were I disseminate disinformation?

AFAIK...., I just express my sincere opinions and my complete opposition to a Colonial power that tries to appropiate some 12.000.000 km2 of Argentinean Territory....

Maybe you know better?
53 Troy Tempest (#) Feb 18th, 2014 - 10:28 pm Report abuse
(51) Heisenbergcontext

Think @52 says,
“Would you please point me to the place were I disseminate disinformation?”

It would be more challenging to find where he spoke the truth
54 Heisenbergcontext (#) Feb 19th, 2014 - 01:48 am Report abuse
@52 Think

Every time you choose a separate identity to express yourself you are disseminating disinformation. I can't prove it of course - as you well know. But your intelligence and sense of humour are your achilles heel. A sense of humour is as singular as a fingerprint and like most smart and funny people you simply can't resist displaying it. All of your seperate identity's display exactly the same free-wheeling, mischieveous, sense of humour, The exception would be El Capitano the Canadian redneck. That's where your anger came through.

Remember you the last line of The Devil's Advocate? Vanity,Think. Vanity.

I acknowledge your agenda is indeed sincere, but the way you express that agenda matters and it undermines your credibility IMO. You have to know that don't you?
55 cornelius (#) Feb 19th, 2014 - 05:34 am Report abuse
Yes the opinion in chile is divided over Venezuela situation, but remember Bachelet was put there by the communist and the left coalition.
56 Think (#) Feb 19th, 2014 - 07:52 pm Report abuse
(54) Heisenbergcontext

You say...:
“Every time you choose a separate identity to express yourself you are disseminating disinformation.”
I say...:
That's never then...

You say...:
“I can't prove it of course - as you well know.”
I say...:
And I can't prove the contrary of course - as you well know.

You say...:
“All of your separate identity's display exactly the same free-wheeling, mischieveous, sense of humour”
I say...:
It is indeed a bonus when, once in a while, one meets another poster with a similar “free-wheeling, mischieveous, sense of humour” as you so nicely put it...
I do also enjoy my exchanges with some of the other “not so mischieveous non Turnips” in here, you included....

Always under the same name though...:
El Think, only El Think and nothing but El Think....
57 ilsen (#) Feb 19th, 2014 - 09:26 pm Report abuse
El think says nothing of value, again. Yawn. ..
58 Heisenbergcontext (#) Feb 20th, 2014 - 12:41 am Report abuse
In 2005 I lost a friend whom I'd known for many years. Even though he lived in another city - Sydney - we stayed in touch for all that time, phone calls and E-Mails, and occasionally he would visit wherever I was living on business.

I found out he was dead through the N.S.W. police assisting the coroners office. It turned out that my friend, whom I'd known as Mick, a recovering heroin addict, was in fact a Federal Court Judge. This is the second highest court in Australia behind the High Court. At the time of his death he was the preeminent expert on tax-law in the nation and had advised both the Thailand and Chinese govt on their own laws.

The manner of his death was open to interpretation - although death by misadventure seemed the most likely cause. However, given his importance to the nation, the Coroner wanted to make sure everything was covered so she sent a detective all the way from Sydney to interview me. Five hours in the local cop shop.

All this was shocking and confusing to yours truly and I still don't understand why a person of such stature decided I was going to be his best friend.

Suffice to say I have a particular interest in people who have alternative identities.
59 Think (#) Feb 20th, 2014 - 07:20 pm Report abuse
(58) Heisenbergcontext
Interesting story...
Now; back to the “alternative identities” issue...

I was once married to a person with an “alternative identity”...
Suffice to say that the shock and confusion the realization of that fact caused on yours truly has efectively viped out any interest in any kind of “alternative identity”.
60 Heisenbergcontext (#) Feb 22nd, 2014 - 09:38 am Report abuse
@60 Think

Sorry Think, I did reply to your last post but for some reason it didn't appear. That is also a very interesting story...

Commenting for this story is now closed.
If you have a Facebook account, become a fan and comment on our Facebook Page!

Advertisement

Get Email News Reports!

Get our news right on your inbox.
Subscribe Now!

Advertisement