Monday, June 9th 2014 - 06:38 UTC

Cristina Fernandez opens inter-active Malvinas museum on Tuesday

Argentina's claim campaign over the Falklands/Malvinas Islands will have another milestone this week when President Cristina Fernandez opens the Malvinas Museum, which is located on the grounds of the former Navy's Mechanics School, famous for being a torture and disappearance center during the last Argentine military dictatorship and now a Space for Memory.

The museum is located on the grounds of the notorious Argentine Navy Mechanics School where thousands were tortured and disappeared

Dirctor Giles who has been working on the project since 2011 said it will be the first national museum dedicated to the Malvinas in Argentine history.

 “It won't be a war museum but rather will present the life and history of the Malvinas”, said Jorge Giles who is the director of the museum to be inaugurated next Tuesday and will be open to the public starting on Saturday June 14.

“The idea is that it's not a museum of 'dead things', but a collection of strong sensory experiences of what the Islands really are: people will be able to feel the strong wind of the Islands, together with the screeching of war planes. This will interact with a memorial to all those Argentine combatants who lost their lives in the 1982 conflict placed in an open space to which you reach along a long jetty which links the museum and recreates the flora and fauna of the Islands, plus a lagoon, as if people were actually in the Malvinas”, added Giles.

In this framework there will also be references to Argentine historic heroes such as Antonio Rivero, or 'Gaucho Rivero' who allegedly in 1833 started an uprising in the Islands; of Dardo Cabo, a metal industry worker who in 1966 led the Operation Condor in an Aerolineas Argentinas craft which landed in the Islands, and to Raymundo Gleyzer the first cinema director to film in the Malvinas Islands.

Giles added it will be the first national museum dedicated to the Malvinas in the history of Argentina. He has been working on the idea since 2011 and will be heading the museum for the next 180 days, according to decree 809.

“We are going to tell the true story of the first patriots who lived in Malvinas and with objects, images and historic facts prove the English colonialism usurpation: we're not talking of a piece of islands covered in stones, but a true piece of the Argentine Patagonia, with hard working people that were thriving to progress” underlined Giles.

Inauguration on Tuesday with president Cristina Fernandez is also the Day of the Affirmation of Argentine Rights over the Malvinas Islands, the date in which on 10 June 1829 the Political and Military Headquarters Command of the Islands was created, according to Argentine history.

To the ceremony have been invited Malvinas veterans, historians and the diplomatic corps from the region which openly support Argentina's claims over the Falklands/Malvinas Islands.

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1 Lord Ton (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 07:03 am Report abuse
Celebrating 181 years of failure ?

181 years of claiming something that never belonged to Argentina?

181 years of unfounded whining ?

I can see it'll be a hit :-)
2 Rufus (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 07:07 am Report abuse
“The idea is that it's not a museum of 'dead things', but a collection of strong sensory experiences of what the Islands really are: ”

Not Argentina then
3 Redrow (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 07:09 am Report abuse
Good luck with all those “facts”.
Will there be authentic excrement in the post office?
And a nice waxwork of Patricio Dowling - and Think of course.
Will be interesting to see who you say Rivera rebelled against.

“Plus a lagoon, as if people were actually in the Malvinas”.
You already are, the Malvinas is the Museum.
4 HansNiesund (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 07:15 am Report abuse
I wonder if the the Argentine National Academy of History was consulted for the celebration of Rivero? Or perhaps the Civil Aviation Authority for Dardo Cabo?
5 Evil Colonialist Pirate (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 07:21 am Report abuse
So this is the latest contribution from Argentina's Ministry of Truth...
6 Anglotino (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 07:32 am Report abuse
Pity Argentina doesn't drop the rhetoric, normalise relations and deepen contacts with the islands.

The fact that this “museum” will present so many historical inaccuracies as facts, even though they can be easily disproven with some simply researching, doesn't reflect well on the Argentinean government.

Many countries and governments have offered historical 'facts' to their citizens before, but the truth ALWAYS wins out.
7 golfcronie (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 07:36 am Report abuse
How pathetic is this. All that money spent and for what? Why not arrange flights to The FALKLANDS and see the real country. Why not invite a member of the FALKLANDS Government to give a lecture. Good Luck with the money spent it will not make an iota of difference to the ISLANDERS progress.
8 zathras (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 07:57 am Report abuse
The lack of representation of the peoples of the Falklands is truly shocking.
I suspect the internationally observed, fair and legal referendum last year will not be mentioned.
9 Faulconbridge (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 08:02 am Report abuse
“the Malvinas Museum, ...is located on the grounds of the former Navy's Mechanics School, famous for being a torture and disappearance center during the last Argentine military ”
An interesting...coincidence, shall we say?...as the museum's exhibits seem to disappear the actual existing inhabitants of the islands.
Are there any museums and memorials to the Argentines tortured and/or disappeared?
10 La Patria (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 08:10 am Report abuse
Disney have their offices in Olivos (quite nice if you have the chance to visit them) but I didn't know they had opened a Mickey Mouse Museum down town.
11 reality check (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 08:18 am Report abuse
Exhibit no1 is a fossilised turd from the Hero Gaucho Riverio, heroically recovered from the Malvinas by the brave forces of the republic in 1982 and flown out of the Islands, minutes before the surrender and it's recapture by the pirate British.

Exhibit no2 are the underpants worn by Dardo Cabo during his historic 1966 mission. Visitors may notice how the colouring in the rear of the pants, matches the colouring of Exhibit no1.

Exhibit no3 is one of the thirty thousand Argentine Flags he carried with him on that mission.

LMAO.

Must be their equivelant of Disney World.
12 DFM6053 (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 09:52 am Report abuse
This whole thing would be hilarious if it wasn't perpetuating a conflict which cost nearly 1000 lives and ruining relations between two countries which should be on friendly terms. It amazes me that the Argentinian population are willing to accept their government trying to brain wash them with facts which are so demonstrably wrong. I wonder what the museum will have to say about the mythical 1833 population expulsion or will they admit that a small group of mutinous murders and rapists were sent packing by the Royal Navy without a shot being fired.
13 falklandlad (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 10:03 am Report abuse
EMSA!!!! Wow, and I wonder if they will have an exhibition on the life and inhumane endeavours of Astiz. Bit of an own goal. Sadly though the nearest the Argies will ever get to “really” showing what the Falkland Islands is all about. They are all caught up in their own sad disbelief and untruths.
14 Falkland Islands (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 10:20 am Report abuse
interactive, I hope they don't start fiddling around with me, I will have to take them to court for assault. ;)
15 Usurping Pirate (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 10:24 am Report abuse
Will there be a real life rape re enactment showing Gaucho Rivero and his cronies raping Mestivier's wife ?
Dowling pointing guns at children's heads ?
Conscripts having to steal sheep to keep themselves alive ?
This is really pathetic .
16 Captain Poppy (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 10:54 am Report abuse
If I get a chance I will stop in and ask the curator that is you believe the islands are Argentina's, why not take it to the ICJ?

A makeshift museum is not going to change reality. Only plant the perception in “some” of the public's opinion on the islands disposition.
17 Welsh Wizard (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 11:22 am Report abuse
You have to wonder whether it will try to rival the Evita Museum as the shittest Museum in BA.....
18 Escoses Doido (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 11:24 am Report abuse
Here's a meuseum like the one n the story.

creationmuseum.org
19 Welsh Wizard (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 11:37 am Report abuse
You have to wonder whether it will try to rival the Evita Museum as the shittest Museum in BA.....
20 Conqueror (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 11:40 am Report abuse
@2 Wonder where they got these “strong sensory experiences of what the Islands really are”? The operations of argie special forces? Candid photos of argie invasion, occupation and war crimes? The speed at which argie “soldiers” could run? The Falklands oil industry? Argie ex-“athletes” running up and down a Falklands war memorial? Will there be pictures of the Belgrano sinking? The escort destroyers running for their lives? The argie submarine being abandoned? THE SURRENDER? Argie “soldiers” handing over their weapons to Royal Marines and the Paras? Unwanted argie “soldiers” being returned to argieland by BRITISH ships? Will there be authentic enactments of the murders and rapes perpetrated by Antonio Rivero and his cronies?
@13 ESMA surely!
@14 Don't be ridiculous. Something that could only be pursued in an argie court. Where it will swiftly be found that you forced yourself on an outstretched argie prick.
@16 Can't you smuggle in some C-4 and blow the place apart? Or, for authenticity, wander around crapping on the “exhibits”?
21 Room101 (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 11:46 am Report abuse
It's a good idea: could come up to bite Argentina government in the Ass...
22 Mendoza Canadian (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 11:46 am Report abuse
Shouldn't this place be a memorial to the 40,000 citizens of this country murdered by the junta? Instead of a memorial to the stupidity of cfk?
23 Pete Bog (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 12:17 pm Report abuse
One interactive display not mentioned is where the visitor plays an Argy soldier who starts off being attacked by the Brits on 14th June-1982(except in the museum that will be portrayed as 2nd April). The whole war will then be played in reverse forcing the Brits off Tumbledown Wireless Ridge Longdon etc all the way to Fitzroy, then kicking the Brits out of Goose Green and repelling the Pebble Island raid, forced back into their ships off San Carlos and the interactive display finishes on 2nd April portrayed as 14th June in the museum) showing the victorious soldiers.

They might want to photoshop out the white flags at the start as that's going to look a bit odd...
24 4wentways (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 12:23 pm Report abuse
Presumably the museum will show the life of the people who have lived on the islands for the last 180 years?

Why only Argentine combatants....Were the British not there then? I thought he wanted to tell the “Truth”.
25 Condorito (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 12:43 pm Report abuse
The choice of location is bizarre.
The building that was the final destination for so many that opposed the Argentine authorities in the past becomes a museum about those the Argentine authorities would like to disappear today.
Twisted.
26 Martin Woodhead (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 01:19 pm Report abuse
Obviously the islanders are to be disappeared.
Unfortunatly they'd have to defeat the secret nuclear armed penguins installed by the evil british pirates
27 Vestige (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 01:34 pm Report abuse
The irony is that there much more to do, and much more modern infrastructure, in the museum than the islands.
28 CabezaDura2 (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 01:51 pm Report abuse
Ohh FFS
In La Plata a police station almost has to leave a neighborhood due to crime and the station was taken over by squatting criminals wondering the backyard...

All over Metropolitan BsAs the police vehicles don’t have spare tires, no jacks, no fuel, the 911 calls are always late and most of the time they don’t answer, the people are completely defenseless.


www.eltrecetv.com.ar/periodismo-para-todos/impactante-informe-sobre-policiasinaccion-audios-que-asustan_069486

Most cops of Chew Butt ©ChrisR 2013 don’t even have a high school degree.

And the money is all out for this useless K crap of a museum
29 Condorito (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 01:54 pm Report abuse
@27
If they were to exhibit all the creative ways they had devised to make you suffer and disappear in that building, they would need even more infrastructure to fit all the exhibits in.
30 CabezaDura2 (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 02:13 pm Report abuse
Any average police station, hospital, school or other public facility is falling down to pieces in Argentina. Even with record gov't spending there is in that Lanata report a police station that was inaugurated in 2008 and since then they never had a fixed land phone in the station.

You know the amusing thing would be If the economy of 40 million people where all the money is allocated to K propaganda projects like the ESMA museum (its not that they have just made ESMA into a museum) can’t even out match the infrastructure at least one small museum in an 3000 inhabited island in the middle of nowhere .
31 Livepeanuts (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 02:25 pm Report abuse
Fortunato´s world was falling down, I was shot at in Mendoza by the army a few days before (Mendozazo) at the end of March 1982, so he sent a hoard of starving conscripts to fight a World Power hoping that he would get away with it. It was the wrong idea, a big mistake. Argentina just say so and stop digging yourself in to a whole. The Islands will remain British for the foreseeable future and the only way that will ever change is if the islanders see Argentina as good neighbours fat chance of that for a generation or two.
32 CabezaDura2 (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 02:31 pm Report abuse
31
Galitieri had made Anaya and the admirals a promise to invade the islands (an old naval project) if they helped him to get rid of Roberto Viola and place him in power, and so he did.

Its not that Galtieri arrived with no plans
33 Usurping Pirate (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 03:47 pm Report abuse
Mendoza Canadian : Oh , it's 40,000 citizens killed by the military regime now is it ?
I thought it was closer to 4 Million .
Actually , I personally think the real figure is about 5000 , and most of them were armed , bomb throwing terrorists and thoroughly deserved what they got .
The military regime wasn't all bad .They brought in colour TV and made sure Argentina won the World Cup in 78 .
And the streets were safe in those days .
34 Pugol-H (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 03:57 pm Report abuse
So if you can’t have the Islands, build a Malvinas Theme Park, replete with rides and special effects, no expense spared.

As close as they will ever get to the real thing.
35 Brit Bob (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 06:10 pm Report abuse
Simple things please simple minds.

Why doesn't the Argentine electorate demand that their government take its sovereignty claims to an international tribunal? (Then the sh*te would hit the fan because they'd find out that their claims are solely based on propaganda and lies).
36 ChrisR (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 06:34 pm Report abuse
I have been PMSL at these comments.

Just when you think the argies cannot do anything more stupid than the last little stunt: THEY DO!

Ha, ha, ha.
37 Briton (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 07:14 pm Report abuse
Life and history according to argentine history

A desolate land they rescued and populated,
Until the nasty brit pirates took them,

A land they built with honest toil and graft,
Hospitals schools and houses too
Universities churches roads and more
Then came the pirates who destroyed it to the core,
We sacrificed many to rescue the hostages captured by the brits
The world was against us, and supported the brits,
Our islands we loved and cherished them,
For they will always be las Malvinas

But hey, when did the truth ever bother the uneducated Argies,
Those who are brainwashed, and the indoctrinated,
And their ended another bedtime story by CFK ..
And the truth patrol..
lololol
cough cough..
38 Pete Bog (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 08:38 pm Report abuse
@37

And in the old days the Argentines had even left CT scanners for the evil pirates to conquer........... Not to mention a fully functioning spaceport.
39 Dozy Malvista (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 08:57 pm Report abuse
Sr Penis, what have you to say? No comment? Will it show Arg defete? What about sent home on Englush ships?

Truth not covenient?
40 toooldtodieyoung (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 09:52 pm Report abuse
“Cristina Fernandez opens inter-active Malvinas museum on Tuesday”

Oh you have got to love this!!!!

and what is “inter-active” in this museum pray tell?

Does it have a sound track and encourage the visitors to sing along “The Falklands are ours”...???

Does it have a copy of resolution 502 on display??

Can visitors take a “virtual” trip on the S.S Canberra and pretend that they are repatriated POW's ??

Yeah, and is there a mock up of a school so that they can plant grenades in the desks??

Poor KFC, poor argentina.... and the money could have gone on feeding the homeless......

The fact that it is opening on the anniversary of their defeat says it all.
41 Britworker (#) Jun 09th, 2014 - 10:51 pm Report abuse
Another monument to failure, no one celebrates failure like Argentina :-)
42 reality check (#) Jun 10th, 2014 - 05:06 am Report abuse
Wonder if they pipe the sound of the screams and whimpering of the poor souls who had a one way ticket through the place, long before they decided to abuse as a propoganda showpiece?

Any sane person would have torn the place down and turned it into car park!

Or built a park over ot, there's a precedence for it, it's located in Berlin.
43 CKurze30k (#) Jun 10th, 2014 - 07:20 am Report abuse
““We are going to tell the true story of the first patriots who lived in Malvinas and with objects, images and historic facts prove the English colonialism usurpation”

“historic facts”

“English colonialism usurpation”

Contradiction. According to the facts, it was the Argentines that attempted colonial usurpation from the rightful holders of sovereignty, and were rightly removed.

I'm willing to bet there will be no mention of Resolution 502 which required them to leave the Falklands following their illegal invasion and attempt to subjugate the legitimate inhabitants.

Nor will there be mention of the fact that they refuse ICJ arbitration since they have no real claim to the Falklands.

Simply another attempt to propogate the “Malvinas Lie”. If they were interested in real negotiation, they would begin by agreeing to stop lying.
44 Usurping Pirate (#) Jun 10th, 2014 - 07:28 am Report abuse
@42 : The “poor souls” you refer to were mostly bomb throwing kidnappers and terrorists . If the military govt had done its job properly and killed the leaders instead of simply the rank and file , Argentina would not be in the state it's in now .
But , as usual, the Navy found an acomodo ( understanding ) with the terrorist leadership , probably in return for some of the millions the terrorists had accumulated in kidnap ransoms and let the leadership go .
The reason for locking up all the military from the period is so none of them spill the beans on what really went on between them and the terrorist leadership .
The Kirchners personally benefitted from an arrangement with army officers whereby they bought the houses of the disappeared in their military district at knock down prices.
Cristina also defended an army officer guilty of indecent assault ( forced oral sex ) on a girl of 13 . He received a massively reduced sentence as a result .
ESMA , like the Malvinas issue , is simply another smokescreen , and these trolling muppets ( and western journalism ) swallow it hook line and sinker .
45 gordo1 (#) Jun 10th, 2014 - 04:46 pm Report abuse
What a load of “caca de toro”!
46 CJvR (#) Jun 10th, 2014 - 04:51 pm Report abuse
“a collection of strong sensory experiences of what the Islands really are: people will be able to feel the strong wind of the Islands”

LOL! Well that should cure most Argies suffering from Malvinitis.

Beyond that I suspect this museum will contain even less facts than the infamous Creation museum in the US.
47 Briton (#) Jun 10th, 2014 - 06:23 pm Report abuse
38 Pete Bog
totally agree, these twits are unbelievable..lol
48 reality check (#) Jun 10th, 2014 - 09:51 pm Report abuse
Open to the public on DIM DAY, 14th June.
49 GeoffWard2 (#) Jun 11th, 2014 - 09:48 am Report abuse
An *interactive* museum of interpretation ...

The bus-loads of school-trip children, that will be the bulk of the visitors, should be appraised of what it feels like to step on a landmine ... hear the click .. and consider the ways available of avoiding having their legs blown to pieces.

It could have some value
if every second randomised tile across the entrance hall had pressure sensors and depressors ... with canned screaming every time a child stepped on a wrong tile ... and flash pictures of blood and limbs ..

Such traumatic experiences might affect their attitudes to war and the Islands.
50 Pete Bog (#) Jun 11th, 2014 - 09:11 pm Report abuse
@49 Geoff

And for those not wanting to experience interactive landmines, the kids would be shown by the curator how to make white flags out of their handkerchiefs, attached to any form of stick they could find within 5 seconds whilst being played some big screen footage of charging British soldiers -still with the pant wetting feeling, but with not so much pain...
51 Usurping Pirate (#) Jun 13th, 2014 - 01:59 pm Report abuse
The Viz solutions : Why doesn't Cristina simply make some replica islands off the mainland , bit like “ the World ” off Dubai ?
All you need is millions of tons of rock , landfill and hard core , some earth to go on top , then some sheep and finally some unexploded land mines .
Simples .
52 Pete Bog (#) Jun 13th, 2014 - 10:06 pm Report abuse
@51 UP

Brilliant idea-then they could put on the Islands all those Argentines desperate to move from sunny BA (FI are sunny but the wind might be a tad too cold for the BAites). And with no yellow helos to frighten them.
53 ilsen (#) Jun 14th, 2014 - 01:53 pm Report abuse
So the Argies will settle for a 'virtual reality' theme park instead of the real thing. They give up so easily. No wonder the country is in such a mess.

No backbone and no fortitude.

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