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Cristina Fernandez opens inter-active Malvinas museum on Tuesday
Argentina's claim campaign over the Falklands/Malvinas Islands will have another milestone this week when President Cristina Fernandez opens the Malvinas Museum, which is located on the grounds of the former Navy's Mechanics School, famous for being a torture and disappearance center during the last Argentine military dictatorship and now a Space for Memory. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesCelebrating 181 years of failure ?
Jun 09th, 2014 - 07:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0181 years of claiming something that never belonged to Argentina?
181 years of unfounded whining ?
I can see it'll be a hit :-)
“The idea is that it's not a museum of 'dead things', but a collection of strong sensory experiences of what the Islands really are: ”
Jun 09th, 2014 - 07:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not Argentina then
Good luck with all those “facts”.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 07:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Will there be authentic excrement in the post office?
And a nice waxwork of Patricio Dowling - and Think of course.
Will be interesting to see who you say Rivera rebelled against.
“Plus a lagoon, as if people were actually in the Malvinas”.
You already are, the Malvinas is the Museum.
I wonder if the the Argentine National Academy of History was consulted for the celebration of Rivero? Or perhaps the Civil Aviation Authority for Dardo Cabo?
Jun 09th, 2014 - 07:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0So this is the latest contribution from Argentina's Ministry of Truth...
Jun 09th, 2014 - 07:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Pity Argentina doesn't drop the rhetoric, normalise relations and deepen contacts with the islands.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 07:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0The fact that this “museum” will present so many historical inaccuracies as facts, even though they can be easily disproven with some simply researching, doesn't reflect well on the Argentinean government.
Many countries and governments have offered historical 'facts' to their citizens before, but the truth ALWAYS wins out.
How pathetic is this. All that money spent and for what? Why not arrange flights to The FALKLANDS and see the real country. Why not invite a member of the FALKLANDS Government to give a lecture. Good Luck with the money spent it will not make an iota of difference to the ISLANDERS progress.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 07:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0The lack of representation of the peoples of the Falklands is truly shocking.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 07:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0I suspect the internationally observed, fair and legal referendum last year will not be mentioned.
“the Malvinas Museum, ...is located on the grounds of the former Navy's Mechanics School, famous for being a torture and disappearance center during the last Argentine military ”
Jun 09th, 2014 - 08:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0An interesting...coincidence, shall we say?...as the museum's exhibits seem to disappear the actual existing inhabitants of the islands.
Are there any museums and memorials to the Argentines tortured and/or disappeared?
Disney have their offices in Olivos (quite nice if you have the chance to visit them) but I didn't know they had opened a Mickey Mouse Museum down town.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 08:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Exhibit no1 is a fossilised turd from the Hero Gaucho Riverio, heroically recovered from the Malvinas by the brave forces of the republic in 1982 and flown out of the Islands, minutes before the surrender and it's recapture by the pirate British.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 08:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Exhibit no2 are the underpants worn by Dardo Cabo during his historic 1966 mission. Visitors may notice how the colouring in the rear of the pants, matches the colouring of Exhibit no1.
Exhibit no3 is one of the thirty thousand Argentine Flags he carried with him on that mission.
LMAO.
Must be their equivelant of Disney World.
This whole thing would be hilarious if it wasn't perpetuating a conflict which cost nearly 1000 lives and ruining relations between two countries which should be on friendly terms. It amazes me that the Argentinian population are willing to accept their government trying to brain wash them with facts which are so demonstrably wrong. I wonder what the museum will have to say about the mythical 1833 population expulsion or will they admit that a small group of mutinous murders and rapists were sent packing by the Royal Navy without a shot being fired.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 09:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0EMSA!!!! Wow, and I wonder if they will have an exhibition on the life and inhumane endeavours of Astiz. Bit of an own goal. Sadly though the nearest the Argies will ever get to “really” showing what the Falkland Islands is all about. They are all caught up in their own sad disbelief and untruths.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 10:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0interactive, I hope they don't start fiddling around with me, I will have to take them to court for assault. ;)
Jun 09th, 2014 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Will there be a real life rape re enactment showing Gaucho Rivero and his cronies raping Mestivier's wife ?
Jun 09th, 2014 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Dowling pointing guns at children's heads ?
Conscripts having to steal sheep to keep themselves alive ?
This is really pathetic .
If I get a chance I will stop in and ask the curator that is you believe the islands are Argentina's, why not take it to the ICJ?
Jun 09th, 2014 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0A makeshift museum is not going to change reality. Only plant the perception in “some” of the public's opinion on the islands disposition.
You have to wonder whether it will try to rival the Evita Museum as the shittest Museum in BA.....
Jun 09th, 2014 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Here's a meuseum like the one n the story.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://creationmuseum.org
You have to wonder whether it will try to rival the Evita Museum as the shittest Museum in BA.....
Jun 09th, 2014 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0@2 Wonder where they got these “strong sensory experiences of what the Islands really are”? The operations of argie special forces? Candid photos of argie invasion, occupation and war crimes? The speed at which argie “soldiers” could run? The Falklands oil industry? Argie ex-“athletes” running up and down a Falklands war memorial? Will there be pictures of the Belgrano sinking? The escort destroyers running for their lives? The argie submarine being abandoned? THE SURRENDER? Argie “soldiers” handing over their weapons to Royal Marines and the Paras? Unwanted argie “soldiers” being returned to argieland by BRITISH ships? Will there be authentic enactments of the murders and rapes perpetrated by Antonio Rivero and his cronies?
Jun 09th, 2014 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0@13 ESMA surely!
@14 Don't be ridiculous. Something that could only be pursued in an argie court. Where it will swiftly be found that you forced yourself on an outstretched argie prick.
@16 Can't you smuggle in some C-4 and blow the place apart? Or, for authenticity, wander around crapping on the “exhibits”?
It's a good idea: could come up to bite Argentina government in the Ass...
Jun 09th, 2014 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Shouldn't this place be a memorial to the 40,000 citizens of this country murdered by the junta? Instead of a memorial to the stupidity of cfk?
Jun 09th, 2014 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0One interactive display not mentioned is where the visitor plays an Argy soldier who starts off being attacked by the Brits on 14th June-1982(except in the museum that will be portrayed as 2nd April). The whole war will then be played in reverse forcing the Brits off Tumbledown Wireless Ridge Longdon etc all the way to Fitzroy, then kicking the Brits out of Goose Green and repelling the Pebble Island raid, forced back into their ships off San Carlos and the interactive display finishes on 2nd April portrayed as 14th June in the museum) showing the victorious soldiers.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They might want to photoshop out the white flags at the start as that's going to look a bit odd...
Presumably the museum will show the life of the people who have lived on the islands for the last 180 years?
Jun 09th, 2014 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why only Argentine combatants....Were the British not there then? I thought he wanted to tell the “Truth”.
The choice of location is bizarre.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The building that was the final destination for so many that opposed the Argentine authorities in the past becomes a museum about those the Argentine authorities would like to disappear today.
Twisted.
Obviously the islanders are to be disappeared.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Unfortunatly they'd have to defeat the secret nuclear armed penguins installed by the evil british pirates
The irony is that there much more to do, and much more modern infrastructure, in the museum than the islands.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ohh FFS
Jun 09th, 2014 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In La Plata a police station almost has to leave a neighborhood due to crime and the station was taken over by squatting criminals wondering the backyard...
All over Metropolitan BsAs the police vehicles don’t have spare tires, no jacks, no fuel, the 911 calls are always late and most of the time they don’t answer, the people are completely defenseless.
http://www.eltrecetv.com.ar/periodismo-para-todos/impactante-informe-sobre-policiasinaccion-audios-que-asustan_069486
Most cops of Chew Butt ©ChrisR 2013 don’t even have a high school degree.
And the money is all out for this useless K crap of a museum
@27
Jun 09th, 2014 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If they were to exhibit all the creative ways they had devised to make you suffer and disappear in that building, they would need even more infrastructure to fit all the exhibits in.
Any average police station, hospital, school or other public facility is falling down to pieces in Argentina. Even with record gov't spending there is in that Lanata report a police station that was inaugurated in 2008 and since then they never had a fixed land phone in the station.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You know the amusing thing would be If the economy of 40 million people where all the money is allocated to K propaganda projects like the ESMA museum (its not that they have just made ESMA into a museum) can’t even out match the infrastructure at least one small museum in an 3000 inhabited island in the middle of nowhere .
Fortunato´s world was falling down, I was shot at in Mendoza by the army a few days before (Mendozazo) at the end of March 1982, so he sent a hoard of starving conscripts to fight a World Power hoping that he would get away with it. It was the wrong idea, a big mistake. Argentina just say so and stop digging yourself in to a whole. The Islands will remain British for the foreseeable future and the only way that will ever change is if the islanders see Argentina as good neighbours fat chance of that for a generation or two.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 031
Jun 09th, 2014 - 02:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Galitieri had made Anaya and the admirals a promise to invade the islands (an old naval project) if they helped him to get rid of Roberto Viola and place him in power, and so he did.
Its not that Galtieri arrived with no plans
Mendoza Canadian : Oh , it's 40,000 citizens killed by the military regime now is it ?
Jun 09th, 2014 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I thought it was closer to 4 Million .
Actually , I personally think the real figure is about 5000 , and most of them were armed , bomb throwing terrorists and thoroughly deserved what they got .
The military regime wasn't all bad .They brought in colour TV and made sure Argentina won the World Cup in 78 .
And the streets were safe in those days .
So if you can’t have the Islands, build a Malvinas Theme Park, replete with rides and special effects, no expense spared.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As close as they will ever get to the real thing.
Simple things please simple minds.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why doesn't the Argentine electorate demand that their government take its sovereignty claims to an international tribunal? (Then the sh*te would hit the fan because they'd find out that their claims are solely based on propaganda and lies).
I have been PMSL at these comments.
Jun 09th, 2014 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just when you think the argies cannot do anything more stupid than the last little stunt: THEY DO!
Ha, ha, ha.
Life and history according to argentine history
Jun 09th, 2014 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A desolate land they rescued and populated,
Until the nasty brit pirates took them,
A land they built with honest toil and graft,
Hospitals schools and houses too
Universities churches roads and more
Then came the pirates who destroyed it to the core,
We sacrificed many to rescue the hostages captured by the brits
The world was against us, and supported the brits,
Our islands we loved and cherished them,
For they will always be las Malvinas
But hey, when did the truth ever bother the uneducated Argies,
Those who are brainwashed, and the indoctrinated,
And their ended another bedtime story by CFK ..
And the truth patrol..
lololol
cough cough..
@37
Jun 09th, 2014 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And in the old days the Argentines had even left CT scanners for the evil pirates to conquer........... Not to mention a fully functioning spaceport.
Sr Penis, what have you to say? No comment? Will it show Arg defete? What about sent home on Englush ships?
Jun 09th, 2014 - 08:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Truth not covenient?
“Cristina Fernandez opens inter-active Malvinas museum on Tuesday”
Jun 09th, 2014 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh you have got to love this!!!!
and what is “inter-active” in this museum pray tell?
Does it have a sound track and encourage the visitors to sing along “The Falklands are ours”...???
Does it have a copy of resolution 502 on display??
Can visitors take a “virtual” trip on the S.S Canberra and pretend that they are repatriated POW's ??
Yeah, and is there a mock up of a school so that they can plant grenades in the desks??
Poor KFC, poor argentina.... and the money could have gone on feeding the homeless......
The fact that it is opening on the anniversary of their defeat says it all.
Another monument to failure, no one celebrates failure like Argentina :-)
Jun 09th, 2014 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wonder if they pipe the sound of the screams and whimpering of the poor souls who had a one way ticket through the place, long before they decided to abuse as a propoganda showpiece?
Jun 10th, 2014 - 05:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Any sane person would have torn the place down and turned it into car park!
Or built a park over ot, there's a precedence for it, it's located in Berlin.
““We are going to tell the true story of the first patriots who lived in Malvinas and with objects, images and historic facts prove the English colonialism usurpation”
Jun 10th, 2014 - 07:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0“historic facts”
“English colonialism usurpation”
Contradiction. According to the facts, it was the Argentines that attempted colonial usurpation from the rightful holders of sovereignty, and were rightly removed.
I'm willing to bet there will be no mention of Resolution 502 which required them to leave the Falklands following their illegal invasion and attempt to subjugate the legitimate inhabitants.
Nor will there be mention of the fact that they refuse ICJ arbitration since they have no real claim to the Falklands.
Simply another attempt to propogate the “Malvinas Lie”. If they were interested in real negotiation, they would begin by agreeing to stop lying.
@42 : The “poor souls” you refer to were mostly bomb throwing kidnappers and terrorists . If the military govt had done its job properly and killed the leaders instead of simply the rank and file , Argentina would not be in the state it's in now .
Jun 10th, 2014 - 07:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0But , as usual, the Navy found an acomodo ( understanding ) with the terrorist leadership , probably in return for some of the millions the terrorists had accumulated in kidnap ransoms and let the leadership go .
The reason for locking up all the military from the period is so none of them spill the beans on what really went on between them and the terrorist leadership .
The Kirchners personally benefitted from an arrangement with army officers whereby they bought the houses of the disappeared in their military district at knock down prices.
Cristina also defended an army officer guilty of indecent assault ( forced oral sex ) on a girl of 13 . He received a massively reduced sentence as a result .
ESMA , like the Malvinas issue , is simply another smokescreen , and these trolling muppets ( and western journalism ) swallow it hook line and sinker .
What a load of “caca de toro”!
Jun 10th, 2014 - 04:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“a collection of strong sensory experiences of what the Islands really are: people will be able to feel the strong wind of the Islands”
Jun 10th, 2014 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0LOL! Well that should cure most Argies suffering from Malvinitis.
Beyond that I suspect this museum will contain even less facts than the infamous Creation museum in the US.
38 Pete Bog
Jun 10th, 2014 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0totally agree, these twits are unbelievable..lol
Open to the public on DIM DAY, 14th June.
Jun 10th, 2014 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0An *interactive* museum of interpretation ...
Jun 11th, 2014 - 09:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0The bus-loads of school-trip children, that will be the bulk of the visitors, should be appraised of what it feels like to step on a landmine ... hear the click .. and consider the ways available of avoiding having their legs blown to pieces.
It could have some value
if every second randomised tile across the entrance hall had pressure sensors and depressors ... with canned screaming every time a child stepped on a wrong tile ... and flash pictures of blood and limbs ..
Such traumatic experiences might affect their attitudes to war and the Islands.
@49 Geoff
Jun 11th, 2014 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And for those not wanting to experience interactive landmines, the kids would be shown by the curator how to make white flags out of their handkerchiefs, attached to any form of stick they could find within 5 seconds whilst being played some big screen footage of charging British soldiers -still with the pant wetting feeling, but with not so much pain...
The Viz solutions : Why doesn't Cristina simply make some replica islands off the mainland , bit like “ the World ” off Dubai ?
Jun 13th, 2014 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All you need is millions of tons of rock , landfill and hard core , some earth to go on top , then some sheep and finally some unexploded land mines .
Simples .
@51 UP
Jun 13th, 2014 - 10:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brilliant idea-then they could put on the Islands all those Argentines desperate to move from sunny BA (FI are sunny but the wind might be a tad too cold for the BAites). And with no yellow helos to frighten them.
So the Argies will settle for a 'virtual reality' theme park instead of the real thing. They give up so easily. No wonder the country is in such a mess.
Jun 14th, 2014 - 01:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No backbone and no fortitude.
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