Tuesday, January 5th 2016 - 08:34 UTC

Confirmed: Brazil faces its worst economic plunge in 25 years

Analysts expect Brazil's economy to contract by 2.95% this year after contracting by 3.71% in 2015, marking the biggest drop in economic output in 25 years, the Central Bank said on Monday. The first survey of analysts released this year shows that private sector economists expect the inflation rate to hit 6.87% in 2016.

GDP and inflation forecasts come from Boletin Focus, a Central Bank survey of analysts from about 100 private financial institutions on the state of the economy

Brazil, in a technical recession, has had its sovereign debt lowered to junk status by Standard & Poor's and Fitch Ratings in recent months.

 Last week, analysts said they expected Brazil's economy to contract by 2.81% in 2016, with inflation reaching 6.86%.

The gross domestic product (GDP) and inflation forecasts come from the Boletin Focus, a weekly Central Bank survey of analysts from about 100 private financial institutions on the state of the national economy. The government started using the survey in preparing its own forecasts last year.

Brazil, in a technical recession with GDP contracting for three consecutive quarters, has had its sovereign debt lowered to junk status by Standard & Poor's and Fitch Ratings in recent months.

Those downgrades have occurred even though analysts note that Brazil's foreign currency reserves are far in excess of its international liabilities.

Latin America's largest economy growth has been hampered by spending cuts implemented by President Dilma Rousseff's administration to reduce the budget deficit and control inflation.

Joaquim Levy resigned as Brazil's finance minister on Dec. 18 amid the struggling economy and a push by some in Congress to impeach Rousseff. His replacement - Nelson Barbosa, who had been heading up the Planning Ministry - was critical of some of the austerity measures implemented by his predecessor.

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1 ChrisR (#) Jan 05th, 2016 - 11:10 am Report abuse
It is of no use stating what any economic parameter will be in the future due to DumbAss Dilma appointing the present 'Finance Minister' who is old school anti-austerity.

She has proven that her powers as president are weakening by not supporting Levy who did his best under the most difficult circumstances to plug the waste of money.

Basically, Brazil is fucked while this bunch of crooks are in power.
2 Jack Bauer (#) Jan 05th, 2016 - 09:51 pm Report abuse
“ Last week, analysts said they expected Brazil's economy to contract by 2.81% in 2016, with inflation reaching 6.86%.”...

They sound optimistic.....but let the year start - after Carnival, of course - and we will soon see this optimism transform into the stark reality that confidence will not be regained so soon, or so easily.
3 Terence Hill (#) Jan 06th, 2016 - 10:52 pm Report abuse
Economy catches Canada flat-footed, even though it was under the stewardship of a conservative government for ten years. But there isn't much point in playing Monday morning quarterback. “A decade ago, Canada set out to become an energy superpower. Now, it enters 2016 riding down one of the world’s most battered petro-currencies...In the 45 years since Canada ended its currency peg to its largest trading partner…no dollar depreciation has been this bad for this long
Canada, the envy of the world for weathering the 2008-09 global financial crisis better than almost any other developed country, has suddenly lost it's footing in the global economy. The high oil prices and increased oilsands production that fuelled growth for a decade look unlikely to return soon,…”
business.financialpost.com/news/economy/canada-in-the-middle-of-an-identity-crisis-as-loonies-worst-rout-ever-raises-petro-state-fe
4 yankeeboy (#) Jan 06th, 2016 - 11:36 pm Report abuse
3. Canada's $ should never have been anywhere near parity with the U$. Everyone knew it was way out of whack.
My guess is it will go around the mid $0.60s and stay there for quite awhile until Canada is cheap to mfg again.
It helps that Canadians speak English otherwise we wouldn't need you at all.

Don't worry Austrailia is right behind. Except they're in much worse shape. Their $ is going 2/1 U$.
5 Terence Hill (#) Jan 07th, 2016 - 01:12 am Report abuse
4 yankeeboy
Worked with many Americans over the years. Used to tell all and sundry that everyone should adopt one, as they're usually house-trained and speak a kind of English. Further, they make a nice buffer zone for Canadians from central America, it's the only reason Canadians are so tolerant. The Canadian dollar was at an all-time high of US$1.10 at the end of 200.
6 yankeeboy (#) Jan 07th, 2016 - 01:29 am Report abuse
Canadians are tolerant because that's their only choice.
Good luck at $0.64/1 you can always cross the border to buy food and gas. I hear Buffalo is nice.
7 Terence Hill (#) Jan 07th, 2016 - 01:42 am Report abuse
6 yankeeboy
“…that's their only choice.” Not really if you knew your history, you'd know what happened only time you dicky-lickers tried to invade. You got your asses handed too you on a plate. “I hear Buffalo is nice.” You should know as your one hell of lot closer than I am.
8 yankeeboy (#) Jan 07th, 2016 - 01:49 am Report abuse
The USA never invaded Canada.
That's like the stupid RGs saying The British invaded Argentina.
Canada is a USA protectorate.
And it always will be
It needs us much more than we need it.
9 Terence Hill (#) Jan 07th, 2016 - 02:34 am Report abuse
6 yankeeboy
“The USA never invaded Canada.” Like I said, if you knew your history, which is about as comparable as Argentineans knowledge of their history. Check out the War of 1812; “The Battle of Queenston Heights was the first major battle in the War of 1812 and resulted in a British victory.” en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Queenston_Heights. “…a large-scale US attempt to capture Montreal was repulsed in November 1813. …while the British blockaded the Atlantic coast of the United States and mounted large raids in the later stages of the war. …In September 1814, the British won the Battle of Hampden, allowing them to occupy eastern Maine, and the British victory at the Battle of Bladensburg in August 1814 allowed them to capture and burn Washington, D.C.. ”
You tread lightly, Canadians are the only nationality that goes to bat for you. Take a look around, there isn't any other nation that I know of that does that. But they certainly wouldn't put up with your BS, and would for sure knock you on your ass.
10 georgeneurus (#) Jan 07th, 2016 - 07:57 am Report abuse
CHRIS: check in the tori for corruption , idiot!!
11 yankeeboy (#) Jan 07th, 2016 - 12:30 pm Report abuse
9. I know my history, and as I said that's the same malarky the Rgs say when the British “invaded” Argentina.
BTW when did Canada become its own country?
Psst...that's your clue...
If we wanted Canada we'd take it and there's little anyone in Canada could do about it.
Canada must do what we ask and support us wholeheartedly as they should since we provide most of your income and all of your defence.
It is your duty as our protectorate.

You should worry that Mexico has really stepped up their mfg capabilities as I said other than English you really don't have much else going for you.
12 Terence Hill (#) Jan 07th, 2016 - 02:55 pm Report abuse
11 yankeeboy
Apparently you don't know your history as I have just had to school you, so don't try and bluff you your way out of your profound ignorance. While there are many things both nations agree on there have been many occasions where Canada has not agreed. “…Diefenbaker refused nuclear arms for Canada ..and hesitated to back Kennedy during the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis. …By 1965, however, relations had deteriorated significantly as Prime Minister Lester Pearson and Canadians found it difficult to give the US the support it demanded during the Vietnam War. By 1967 the Canadian government openly expressed its disagreement with American policies in Southeast Asia. A nationalist movement demanded that American influence be significantly reduced. ..Relations ...were strained. It was evident that the government of Pierre Trudeau and the administration of Ronald Reagan perceived international events from a different perspective….When the Americans extended the war to Iraq in 2003, Canada, under Prime Minister Jean Chretien, refused to take part in the new campaign.”
”The War of 1812 ... fought by the United States of America against the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, its North American colonies and its Native American allies. …With the majority of its land and naval forces tied down in Europe fighting the Napoleonic Wars,…In Upper and Lower Canada, British and local Canadian militia victories over invading US armies became iconic and promoted the development of a distinct Canadian identity, which included strong loyalty to Britain. Today, particularly in Ontario, memory of the war retains its significance, because the defeat of the invasions ensured that the Canada would remain part of the British Empire, rather than be annexed by the United States. In Canada, numerous ceremonies took place in 2012 to commemorate the war, offer historical lessons and celebrate 200 years of peace.
13 yankeeboy (#) Jan 07th, 2016 - 03:09 pm Report abuse
12. bahahahaha
Lots has happened in the last 200+ yrs.
You sound like an Rg whether you realize it or not.
Sad really.

As I said if we wanted Canada we could take it and there's little anyone could do about it.
Just accept it.
You'll be happier when you know your place.

When you don't do what the USA wants you pay a great price.
Maybe learn from your own history.
14 Terence Hill (#) Jan 07th, 2016 - 03:34 pm Report abuse
13 yankeeboy
“You sound like an Rg” Since they like you, share a profound ignorance of history, your both identical. I have refuted every historical claim you've made, yet you have been unable to fault any of the proven facts I have presented. “If we wanted Canada we could take it” Is head that far up your ass, as it's a totally moot point. “When you don't do what the USA wants you pay a great price. Maybe learn from your own history.” Another historical 'guess' as you haven't shown one instance of such an occurrence ever happening. The only thing you have presented is your an empty-headed big-mouth, devoid of any meaningful substance.
15 yankeeboy (#) Jan 07th, 2016 - 03:50 pm Report abuse
Are you stupid or crazy?

You've only proved the US invaded British Colony fighting THE BRITISH.
Same nonsense as when the Rgs said Britain invaded Argentina except Argentina didn't exist and they were fighting the Spanish and it was only 1 boat.

Can you refute that if we wanted Canada we could take it?
Nope.
Like saying the sky is blue.
Its a known fact.

It would be impossible to prove the missed opportunities or where the USA has caused you grief over non-support. Everyone knows it happened and happens. We can easily destroy your economy without any blowback.
and don't think your leaders don't know that
16 Terence Hill (#) Jan 07th, 2016 - 08:20 pm Report abuse
15 yankeeboy
It's you who originally alleged “The USA never invaded Canada.” It is I who proved you did, and you lost mainly to the local militia, as Briton was engaged with Napoleon at the time.
While all you have proffered is your opinions “Its a known fact..Everyone knew it was way out of whack…When you don't do what the USA wants you pay a great price... ” There is nothing that you have presented that has any factual support. It's your mere ignorant unsupported speculations. Now after you're shown to be a bullshitter you want “move the goal posts” and to reengage in hypertheticals. I'll just take my victory, stick with facts and leave to your useless guesswork.
17 yankeeboy (#) Jan 07th, 2016 - 09:00 pm Report abuse
July 1, 1867

Anything before that date was British not Canada.

I don't know why I'm wasting my time with a Canadian.
Nobody cares what a Canadian thinks.
Nobody.
18 Terence Hill (#) Jan 07th, 2016 - 09:36 pm Report abuse
17 yankeeboy
So you concede that you took your drumming from British citizens born in Upper and Lower Canada. Who chose to hold on to that definition until 1948, long after the Act of Confederation. “I don't know why I'm wasting my time with a Canadian”. Again your assumption, as I don't know either, as you've had your ass well and truly kicked. You stick with the herd buddy, it's a lot safer, because you don't do too well out on your own.
19 Jack Bauer (#) Jan 07th, 2016 - 09:57 pm Report abuse
@17 YB
Don't waste your time with Terence. He is always right....even when he's wrong ; he loves to put words in your mouth and then break his elbow trying to pat himself on the back. Total waste of time. Just surprised that he hasn't thrown a ton of cliché phrases at you.......
20 Terence Hill (#) Jan 07th, 2016 - 10:15 pm Report abuse
19 Tweedledum
Another one cut from the same cloth, full of your own pronouncements, that you try to slough off as factual. That is until I catch you and take you to task, you then end wearing your bullshit.
21 yankeeboy (#) Jan 07th, 2016 - 10:26 pm Report abuse
19. I see that. Not the brightest bulb on the tree.
22 Terence Hill (#) Jan 07th, 2016 - 10:42 pm Report abuse
21 yankeeboy
But still blinding overwhelms you, and exposes your major limitations. Thats it back to the herd for you, as you can't cut the mustard.
23 yankeeboy (#) Jan 07th, 2016 - 10:48 pm Report abuse
Terrence, You are a retarded and probably a Canadian.

Canada didn't exist we fought the BRITISH.

How in your fcked up logic does that prove your point?
24 Terence Hill (#) Jan 07th, 2016 - 11:44 pm Report abuse
23 yankeeboy
“Canada didn't exist we fought the BRITISH.” ”The War of 1812 ... fought by the United States of America against the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, its North American colonies and its Native American allies.“ The term Canadian, predates 1867. Thats the problem with none-historians attempting to define history, which is why they're usually wrong. Even the US Army acknowledges it fought Canadians in the War of 1812.
THE WAR OF 1812 Extracted from AMERICAN MILITARY HISTORY ARMY HISTORICAL SERIES OFFICE OF THE CHIEF OF MILITARY HISTORY UNITED STATES ARMY
www.history.army.mil/books/amh/amh-06.htm
”In Upper and Lower Canada, British and local Canadian militia victories over invading US armies“
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812
”Although the United States was officially at war with Great Britain, more than half of the British forces were made up of Canadian militia. Additionally, many Native Americans/First Nations fought in the war for reasons of their own.“ www.sheppardsoftware.com/canadaweb/factfile/Unique-facts-Canada5.htm
”Former President Jefferson optimistically referred to the conquest of Canada as “a matter of marching.” However, in the opening stages of the conflict, British military experience (coupled with Canadian militia) prevailed over inexperienced American commanders.
www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/War_of_1812
”Battle of Crysler's Farm (November 11, with mostly English-Canadian soldiers) were significant British victories over considerably larger American armies.”
www3.sympatico.ca/goweezer/canada/can1800.htm
25 yankeeboy (#) Jan 08th, 2016 - 02:51 am Report abuse
I dunno why you keep posting the same crap but it proves my point not yours.

It clearly says British victory.

Are you retarded?
26 Terence Hill (#) Jan 08th, 2016 - 03:20 am Report abuse
25 yankeeboy
“Are you retarded?” No but you apparently are as you deny even US army sources that confirm that the US was engaged in fighting British, Canadian, and their Native American allies. Plus, another five sites that confirm exactly the same thing. Like I stated-correctly you don't even know your own history.
27 yankeeboy (#) Jan 08th, 2016 - 03:26 am Report abuse
There was no Canada in 1812.

You are a retard and a waste of time.
28 Terence Hill (#) Jan 08th, 2016 - 04:54 am Report abuse
27 yankeeboy
Here's the historical record that entirely refutes your spurious claim, do try to keep up.
Canadian units of the War of 1812
The Indian Department,The Provincial Marine
Atlantic Provinces
The Royal Newfoundland Fencibles,The Nova Scotia Fencibles,The New Brunswick Regiment of Fencible Infantry
Lower Canada
The Canadian Fencibles
Upper Canada
The Glengarry Light Infantry,The Michigan Fencibles
Full-time Militia
Lower Canada
The Canadian Voltigeurs,The Frontier Light Infantry,Select Embodied Militia,Canadian Chasseurs,The Quebec Volunteers,Compagnie des Guides
The Canadian Light Dragoons,The Dorchester Provincial Light Dragoons,The Royal Militia Artillery,The Corps of Provincial Royal Artillery Drivers,The Corps of Canadian Voyageurs
Upper Canada,The Incorporated Militia Battalion,Caldwell's Western Rangers,The Loyal Kent Volunteers,The Loyal Essex Volunteers,The Mississippi Volunteers,The Provincial Dragoons,
The Incorporated Artillery Company,The Provincial Artillery Drivers,The Corps of Provincial Artificers,Part-time militia,Lower Canada,Upper Canada,York and Niagara, Western Districts,Leeds, Stormont, Dundas, Glengarry
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_units_of_the_War_of_1812
U.S. and Allies: United States,Choctaw,Cherokee,Creek allies
British Empire and Allies: United Kingdom,The Canada's, Tecumseh's Confederacy (until 1813),Shawnee,Creek Red Sticks, Ojibway,Chickamauga,Fox,Iroquois,Miami,Mingo,Ottawa,
Kickapoo,Delaware(Lenape),Mascouten,Potawatomi,Sauk,Wyandot,Spain(1814)
29 yankeeboy (#) Jan 08th, 2016 - 11:11 am Report abuse
There was no Canada in 1812.

Just like there was no USA in 1760.

Retard, quit wasting your time.
30 Terence Hill (#) Jan 08th, 2016 - 01:32 pm Report abuse
29 yankeeboy
History is certainly not your strong point, just like you also insisted there was no invasion. Canada was the colony along the St Lawrence River, part of present-day Ontario and Quebec. It had two components Upper and Lower Canada. The US was defeated at the Battle of Queenston Heights(Upper Canada) and a attempt to capture Montreal was repulsed in November 1813. (Lower Canada). I just have to keep schooling you through your morass of ignorance, you're the gift that keeps on giving.
31 yankeeboy (#) Jan 08th, 2016 - 01:52 pm Report abuse
There was no Canada in 1812 or 1813

Just like there was no USA in 1760.

Retard, quit wasting your time.
32 Terence Hill (#) Jan 08th, 2016 - 02:26 pm Report abuse
31 yankeeboy
Hate destroy your ignorant assumptions, but I've shown you the supporting references for Upper and Lower Canada. But, first you have pull your head out your ass in order to read.
This is brought to to you by the party that didn't even know there were invasions.
33 Jack Bauer (#) Jan 08th, 2016 - 03:24 pm Report abuse
@31 YB
Terence, a.k.a. as Twinkletoes, has only shown us what a supercilious twat he is.
A few months ago he stated that the PT was a 'minority party' ...Unfortunately for him, totally wrong ;
The fact is that, of the 29 political parties in Brazil the PT is the 2nd largest ; Only second to the PMDB. If one considers the number of Congressmen, of Senators (their leader in the Senate is now in prison due to corruption), governors and mayors affiliated to the PT, plus the fact that they have more constituents under their direct rule, than the PMDB, they hardly qualify as a minority party. Not to mention fatty Dilma, the pseudo-president, whom, along with Lula, Twinkletoes defends tooth and nail.
When confronted with his bs, he became an aggressive little pussy and said something to the effect that what he meant was the PT was a minority party because it (alone, I presume) did not have a majority in Congress, needing the PMDB for this......Reasoning and logic are not his strong points. Not that he has any, other than being a twat.
34 Terence Hill (#) Jan 08th, 2016 - 04:02 pm Report abuse
33 Tweedledum
Hmm, How is the fact that Canada is suffering from a global downturn even though the government of the day was decidedly not left of centre. Definitely knocks your facsist agenda for six. Sore loser, after I revealed your anti-democratic desires.
35 yankeeboy (#) Jan 08th, 2016 - 06:06 pm Report abuse
When a liberal gov't fails somehow the world is always falling right along with it.

PSST...your largest trading partner and your protector is doing just fine.

Terry is a bit slow, So sure in the truth of his own comments he doesn't care about actual facts.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FEW5mh7iAI
36 Terence Hill (#) Jan 08th, 2016 - 09:29 pm Report abuse
35 yankeeboy
Unfortunately the reverse is true, I do not post anything that can't be cited. Whereas you haven't posted anything that shows a verification.
Since the teaching of the War of 1812 is taught in grade 5 in California, and in Maryland grade 8. In New York it is taught in grade 7. 8. How come you missed the boat? Since you're lacking the rudimentary historical elements of your nations history. What makes you think this deficiency qualifies you evaluate your neighbor's history?
37 yankeeboy (#) Jan 08th, 2016 - 10:04 pm Report abuse
July 1, 1867

Anything before that date was British not Canada.

Why don't you understand that simple sentence?
Its my whole argument and invalidates your last 20+ posts.

Nobody in the USA learns anything about Canada other than they're a little stupid and that French Canadians are dirty.
38 Terence Hill (#) Jan 08th, 2016 - 11:11 pm Report abuse
35 yankeeboy
You don't even have US history requisites of a grade 5 student. With that deficit I can understand why it's difficult for you grasp anything.
Nobody claims it wasn't British, what is incorrect is your statement that there was no Canada. When the name was in use before the Europeans had arrived, and was adopted by all the inhabitants and used in the name of two of the colonies that were invaded by the US.
It has been verified from six sources including the US army that there was a Canada, by the use of the word Canada or Canadian. www.history.army.mil/books/amh/amh-06.htm United States Army Center of Military History. “…this mission has meant recording the official history of the army in both peace and war, while advising the army staff on historical matters.” en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Center_of_Military_History
So it's your view that historians advising the US Army are wrong. While you who doesn't have the historical acumen of a fifth grader are right, I guess when you're that dumb. “I doubt you can understand the magnitude of the stupidity in your statement” Robert Jordan, The Gathering Storm
39 Voice (#) Jan 09th, 2016 - 01:23 am Report abuse
What's this I see....Terry quoting facts...?
Well that's a first....

O say can you see, by the dawn's early light,
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming,
Whose broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watched, were so gallantly streaming?
And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there;
O say does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

Rockets red glare...courtesy of HMS Erebus...
Bombs bursting in air...courtesy of HMS Meteor ...
Both Ships of the Canadian Navy...
Nah....The Royal Navy....;-))))
40 georgeneurus (#) Jan 09th, 2016 - 08:07 am Report abuse
yanqui: dumb yanqui, you aren't one , you are an idiot: English ionvasion to bs 1807/06, and 1845.bs was the head of the viceyroyaloty dummy
41 yankeeboy (#) Jan 09th, 2016 - 01:12 pm Report abuse
Poor Terry never went to school:

Also Known as: Circular Reasoning, Reasoning in a Circle, Petitio Principii.

Description of Begging the Question

Begging the Question is a fallacy in which the premises include the claim that the conclusion is true or (directly or indirectly) assume that the conclusion is true. This sort of “reasoning” typically has the following form.

Premises in which the truth of the conclusion is claimed or the truth of the conclusion is assumed (either directly or indirectly).
Claim C (the conclusion) is true.
This sort of “reasoning” is fallacious because simply assuming that the conclusion is true (directly or indirectly) in the premises does not constitute evidence for that conclusion. Obviously, simply assuming a claim is true does not serve as evidence for that claim. This is especially clear in particularly blatant cases: “X is true. The evidence for this claim is that X is true.”

“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” George Carlin.

There was no Canada in 1812.
Once you understand that FACT maybe you'll see the error of your argument.
42 Terence Hill (#) Jan 09th, 2016 - 02:19 pm Report abuse
41 yankeeboy
The Center confirms American historical archives rcognizes the usage of term CANADA so you better convince these American historians their wrong.
U.S. Army Center of Military History
search your own archives: “the war of 1812, Canada”
www.history.army.mil/search/
THE WAR OF 1812 135 The support of Indian tribes gave CANADA one source of manpower that the United States lacked. After the Battle of Tippecanoe;
[PDF] The Canadian Theater, 1814;PDF] Defending a New Nation, 1783-1811,The War of 1812 is perhaps the United States ... such as the conquest of CANADA;
PDF] The Gulf Theater, 1813-1815, ..occurred along the CANADIAN border..; [PDF] THE FORMATIVE EARS 1783–1812... prevent the encroachment of our Neighbors of CANADA…; [PDF] Am e r ci A n milit A ry Hist or y…www.history.army.mil/html/books/030/30-21/CMH_Pub_30-21.pdf …River in CANADA and at the cities of Quebec and Montreal; Listing of the Campaigns of the U.S. Army Displayed on the ...www.history.army.mil/html/reference/campaigns.html ... CANADA 18 June 1812-17 ... ;1st Battalion, 1st Infantry www.history.army.mil/html/forcestruc/lineages/branches/inf/0001in001bn.htm War of 1812: CANADA; Lundy's Lane;
et al.
43 yankeeboy (#) Jan 09th, 2016 - 02:22 pm Report abuse
Canada as a landmass/region because you've got to call it something, Canada as a country no way, no how.

You're an idiot.

All your life you think you've won arguments because most people roll their eyes and walk away.
You beat them with your idiocy.
44 Voice (#) Jan 09th, 2016 - 02:47 pm Report abuse
There was no war against Canada in 1812...
The declaration of war was thus...

“Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That war be and is hereby declared to exist between the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland and the dependencies thereof, and the United States of America and their territories; and that the President of the United States is hereby authorized to use the whole land and naval force of the United States to carry the same into effect, and to issue to private armed vessels of the United States commissions or letters of marque and general reprisal, in such form as he shall think proper, and under the seal of the United States, against the vessels, goods, and effects of the government of the said United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, and the subjects thereof”

No Canadians were present at the peace treaty in Ghent...

Areas of Eastern Northern America were known at the time as Upper and Lower Canada and in some cases there is reference to Canadian Militia...in reality a lot of the combatants were also North Americans that had been enticed from South of the Border with cheap land etc...
Canada did not exist at that time as a separate political entity nor was the whole of the area referred to as Canada...
Though many believe it was a turning point and the beginning of a Canadian identity particularly in the East....it was still British....
45 yankeeboy (#) Jan 09th, 2016 - 03:30 pm Report abuse
No use arguing with an idiot.
He can't see where he's wrong even after 20+ posts showing him.
46 Terence Hill (#) Jan 09th, 2016 - 04:19 pm Report abuse
44 Voice, V0ice, Vestige, Think et al, sock-puppeteer extraordinaire “it was still British….” Nobody has claimed otherwise.
45 yankeeboy “The Declaration of Independence refers to ”[the] unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America“ adopted by the ”Representatives of the united States of America“ on July 4, 1776 … In fact, it was British officials who first called the colonists “Americans”.” en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_(word)#History. So like Canada or Canadian these words are in common parlance, long before any formal declarations. So that is why you can't figure it out. Unlike your own historians, who have been educated to develop “a historical mind”.
47 yankeeboy (#) Jan 09th, 2016 - 04:57 pm Report abuse
You've not been well educated nor have developed a “historical mind”
You argue in circles.
See my post above

I suspect you're mildly retarded.
48 Jack Bauer (#) Jan 09th, 2016 - 04:58 pm Report abuse
@34 Twinkletoes
“Hmm, How is the fact that Canada is suffering from a global downturn even though the government of the day was decidedly not left of centre” ?

I didn't make any reference to Canada, before or after 1867.......so why involve me in your obssessive rant ?

Your futile insistence that I'm a fascist and anti-democratic is becoming boring. What is your expert opinion based on ? that fact I don't agree with the PT's fucked-up policies that have screwed Brazil and set it back 20 years ? You don't live here, nor do you know what's going on ......so why pretend you do ?
Your sources of information are carefully selected articles written by idiots who are socialists, only for convenience's sake, or what we call here, the “esquerda caviar”. Those who claim to defend socialism, yet refuse to give up their ostentatious life-style, or what Capitalism can offer them. They are people who in a truly democratic society would be insignificant and pass by unknown...so, to be in the spotlight they pretend to be crusaders for the “people”...
In a way, similar to you, trying to hide your inferiority complex by pretending you actually know what you are talking about.....a stupid narcissist. Maybe it's time you got your inflatable doll out of the closet and spanked the monkey.
49 Terence Hill (#) Jan 09th, 2016 - 07:17 pm Report abuse
48 Tweedledum:“..that I'm a fascist and anti-democratic… What is your expert opinion based on?” You're condemned out of your own mouth.
12 Jack Bauer; “..'Military dictatorship', . ..that it was good for Brazil
en.mercopress.com/2015/07/17/brazil-s-corruption-scandals-reach-lula-da-silva-probe-into-influence-peddling
14 Jack Bauer; ”.....but there is still one thing that can save Brazil...it has in the past, and might well do again...the Military.......en.mercopress.com/2015/01/26/brazil-supportive-of-mercosur-as-long-as-it-does-not-turn-into-a-burden
Brazil waiting for 50bn dollars of Chinese support to overhaul infrastructure May 15th 2015
50 Jack Bauer; “As to your comments on the Military taking over again, ..the Military , I hope, would be there again to save Brazil...”
en.mercopress.com/2015/05/15/brazil-waiting-for-50bn-dollars-of-chinese-support-to-overhaul-infrastructure
Brazil waiting for 50bn dollars of Chinese support to overhaul infrastructure May 15th 2015
50 Jack Bauer; “As to your comments on the Military taking over again, …the Military , I hope, would be there …to save Brazil from complete chaos.”
en.mercopress.com/2015/05/15/brazil-waiting-for-50bn-dollars-of-chinese-support-to-overhaul-infrastructure
15 Chicureo “Time for another operation Condor...” 16 Jack Bauer “Come to think about it, quite a good idea.”
en.mercopress.com/2015/09/25/brazil-s-real-recovers-ground-after-central-bank-promises-to-use-all-instruments-available
47 yankeeboy: So the guy who didn't even know his country had unsuccessfully invaded it's neighbour, is modestly proposing that his opinion is correct, and conversely US military historians are wrong. Lots of luck with grade 5 history this time round.
50 yankeeboy (#) Jan 09th, 2016 - 07:33 pm Report abuse
49. You are retarded with your circular arguments.
Admit defeat and go see a doctor.
51 Terence Hill (#) Jan 09th, 2016 - 07:41 pm Report abuse
50 yankeeboy
Sorry loser, my assertion supported by American experts, outweighs the opinion of your incomplete grade 5 history.
52 yankeeboy (#) Jan 09th, 2016 - 07:46 pm Report abuse
Not when your initial premise is wrong

you're a blockhead and a sore loser.
53 Terence Hill (#) Jan 09th, 2016 - 08:50 pm Report abuse
2 yankeeboy
You couldn't find your way that far back. Just like you couldn't complete the teaching of the War of 1812, as is taught in grade 5 in California equivalency.
“He had just about enough intelligence to open his mouth when he wanted to eat, but certainly no more.” P.G. Wodehouse
”If your brains were dynamite there wouldn't be enough to blow your hat off.” Kurt Vonnegut, Timequake
54 yankeeboy (#) Jan 09th, 2016 - 08:58 pm Report abuse
You got 3 people telling you you're wrong isn't that enough?

Go see a doctor you need meds.
55 Terence Hill (#) Jan 09th, 2016 - 09:14 pm Report abuse
54 yankeeboy
The opinions that count are those of the American historians that have advised the US Army. “…this mission has meant recording the official history of the army in both peace and war, while advising the army staff on historical matters.” “the war of 1812, Canada” www.history.army.mil/search/ What A bunch of ill informed dingalings have to say is absolutely of no consequence.
“If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.” Thomas Jefferson, January 6, 1816.
”The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. Winston Churchill
56 yankeeboy (#) Jan 10th, 2016 - 12:43 am Report abuse
Except you're the ill-informed dingaling in this scenario.

You've got 3 people telling you you're wrong isn't that enough?

Go see a doctor you need meds.
57 Terence Hill (#) Jan 10th, 2016 - 01:15 am Report abuse
56 yankeeboy
Here you can write to the magazine below and tell them their historians have got it wrong, because you three amigos say so. Chortle, chortle.
Army History Magazine
U.S. Army Center of Military History; Shock and Awe by Musket Fire and Bayonet Charge. Turning Point at Chippewa in 1814 July 1, 2014
On July 5, 1814, U.S. troops of the Army of the Niagara efficiently moved into position opposite the British line at Chippewa, CANADA.
history.army.mil/news/2014/140700b_shockawe.html
Hmm, now you're proffering medical advise and I'm sure with your limited education you don't hold a doctorate of medicine. The closest thing you'd hold is a bed-pan.
58 yankeeboy (#) Jan 10th, 2016 - 01:36 am Report abuse
The landmass know as Lower Canada.
Not the country.

Gads you're an exhausting retard.
59 Terence Hill (#) Jan 10th, 2016 - 01:52 am Report abuse
58 yankeebuoy('cause you're all at sea)
Don't tell me, tell the experts they posted it in their magazine in July '14 that the US army was in CANADA in July 1814. So don't shoot the messenger because you don't like the message.
60 yankeeboy (#) Jan 10th, 2016 - 02:18 am Report abuse
In Canada fighting the British.
Got it.

You're an exhausting retard.
61 Terence Hill (#) Jan 10th, 2016 - 02:44 am Report abuse
60 yankeebuoy('cause you're all at sea)
Sorry history is not defined by your educational deficencies.
British Empire and Allies
United Kingdom, The Canadas, Tecumseh's Confederacy (until 1813), Shawnee, Creek Red Sticks, Ojibway, Chickamauga, Fox,I roquois, Miami, Mingo, Ottawa,
Kickapoo, Delaware(Lenape), Mascouten, Potawatomi, Sauk, Wyandot, Spain(1814) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812
Here is a copy of the US declaration from Yale law school. Don't you wish you'd paid attention at school. Then you wouldn't be here exposed as a complete ignorant bozo.
“An Act Declaring War Between the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland and the DEPENDENCIES Thereof and the United States of America and Their Territories.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,…”
valon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/1812-01.asp
62 yankeeboy (#) Jan 10th, 2016 - 01:43 pm Report abuse
Which Canadian Plenipotentiary signed the Ghent treaty?

Terry, my special little retard should be able to easily answer that....

His Britannic Majesty and the United States of America desirous of terminating the war which has unhappily subsisted between the two Countries, and of restoring upon principles of perfect reciprocity, Peace, Friendship, and good Understanding between them, have for that purpose appointed their respective Plenipotentiaries, that is to say, His Britannic Majesty on His part has appointed the Right Honourable James Lord Gambier, late Admiral of the White now Admiral of the Red Squadron of His Majesty's Fleet; Henry Goulburn Esquire, a Member of the Imperial Parliament and Under Secretary of State; and William Adams Esquire, Doctor of Civil Laws: And the President of the United States, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate thereof, has appointed John Quincy Adams, James A. Bayard, Henry Clay, Jonathan Russell, and Albert Gallatin, Citizens of the United States; who, after a reciprocal communication of their respective Full Powers, have agreed upon the following Articles.
63 Terence Hill (#) Jan 10th, 2016 - 02:11 pm Report abuse
62 yankeebuoy('cause you're all at sea)
“In Canada fighting the British. Got it.” We certainly have, Ollie. “There was no Canada in 1812.” I hate to spoil your party, but get this, these are contradictory statements. So you have finally admitted there was a Canada during The War of 1812. So my racist little hill-billy, your attempt at being obtuse really exposes the shallowness of you're thinking process. So according to your rational
British Dependancies and American Territories would solder on alone continuing a proxy war, give yourself a shake.
64 yankeeboy (#) Jan 10th, 2016 - 02:23 pm Report abuse
Only in your pea brain are those statement contradictory.
They're proving a point.
The landmass didn't magically appear in 1867 you retard.
Yes the landmass was there in 1812

Who represented Canada negotiating the Treaty of Ghent?
Answer it or STFU

Your attempt to appear educated isn't really working
It makes you look retarded.
65 Voice (#) Jan 10th, 2016 - 04:25 pm Report abuse
61
What are you trying to prove ...That Canada existed as a country in 1812...?
It didn't ...the landmass was the British North American territory...
Your mention of the correct term...The Canadas is a clue....

”At the end of the 18th century, the population of the seven colonies of British North America (Lower Canada, Upper Canada, Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, Newfoundland, St. John Island, and Cape Breton Island) totalled approximately 390,000 inhabitants, not including the aboriginal peoples. In addition to the 200,000 inhabitants of French origin who had settled in the St. Lawrence Lowlands (now Lower Canada), there were 140,000 British settlers: 70,000 in the Maritimes, 25,000 in each Canada, and some 20,000 in Newfoundland. In the West, still a largely uncharted region, there were probably about 40,000 inhabitants. The residents of Upper and Lower Canada would now have to cope with the difficult beginnings of linguistic duality.”

Is that simple enough for you to understand...two colonies were known as the Canadas...
You try to give the impression that the British North American colonies were known as Canada....it is perfectly clear that is not the case....

I am also not quite sure why you have capitalised Dependencies are you trying to mislead us into believing this only represented the British North American Territory...?
It doesn't it refers to all British dependencies...
66 Terence Hill (#) Jan 10th, 2016 - 04:28 pm Report abuse
62 yankeebuoy('cause you're all at sea)
As for “Which Canadian Plenipotentiary signed the Ghent treaty?”. What has that got to do with the price of cheese? I haven't seen any claims that they did. Why would they when they were only an inchoate entity recognized as such by no less a luminary than ”Former President Jefferson optimistically referred to the conquest of Canada as “a matter of marching.” www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/War_of_1812
The same as the term Americans was recognized prior to the Declaration of Independence. It was British officials who first called the colonists “Americans”.” en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_(word)#History. So like Canada or Canadian these words were in common parlance, long before any formal declarations. As is substantiated by your own archives. Your attempted fraud by omission is exposed, read it and weep.
Treaty of Ghent; 1814
“There shall be a firm and universal Peace between His Britannic Majesty and the United States, and between their respective Countries, Territories, Cities, Towns, and People of every degree without exception of places or persons.”
avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/ghent.asp
67 yankeeboy (#) Jan 10th, 2016 - 04:35 pm Report abuse
“There shall be a firm and universal Peace between His Britannic Majesty and the United States, and between their respective Countries, Territories, Cities, Towns, and People of every degree without exception of places or persons.”

Exactly prove my point.
There was no Canada.

You continue to prove yourself to be retarded.
Keep going.
68 Terence Hill (#) Jan 10th, 2016 - 05:10 pm Report abuse
67 yankeebuoy('cause you're all at sea)
“There was no Canada.” Stop tripping over your own feet and attempting to manufacture a none-issue and fraudulent attempting to put words in mouth. As I have never claimed that there was a sovereign entity named Canada in 1812. It is you who stated “The USA never invaded Canada.” And “July 1, 1867 Anything before that date was British not Canada.” My response was “So you concede that you took your drumming from British citizens born in Upper and Lower Canada. Who chose to hold on to that definition until 1948, long after the Act of Confederation.” And “The term Canadian, predates 1867. ” Which I have subsequently proved through your own archives and Jefferson's use of the word Canada. So, rube you're getting your knickers in a knot over something that was never claimed period.
69 yankeeboy (#) Jan 10th, 2016 - 05:17 pm Report abuse
There was no Canada in 1812.
The USA never invaded Canada
Canada didn't exist before 1867

I am not sure how many times I must say the same thing.

I didn't concede anything.
I've proved you wrong with every post.

Your posts are facile, juvenile and reek of insecurity.

You obviously are not well educated and have some sort of mental deficiency.
Go to a doctor.
70 Terence Hill (#) Jan 10th, 2016 - 06:23 pm Report abuse
69 yankeebuoy('cause you're all at sea)
“The USA never invaded Canada” Not according to your own military archives or Thomas Jefferson. But, you need to address that issue to them, not me as I'm just the messenger not the issuer. “Canada didn't exist before 1867. I am not sure how many times I must say the same thing.” I don't know either hick since I had agreed with you when you originally posted. Why you exhibit such obsessive behaviour is not my remit. “I've proved you wrong with every post.” How can you have proved me wrong over an issue that never happened? I see you're a hero in your own mind.
So to correctly summarize, you don't deny the facts I have posted, which means you agree. So all you're left with is an argumentum ad hominem
“We must make a personal attack when there is no argumentative basis for our speech.” Cicero, Pro Flacco, c.58. B.C
“Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause.” Hugo, Victor
Don't feel bad. A lot of people have no talent!
Diarrhea of the mouth; constipation of the ideas.
71 Voice (#) Jan 10th, 2016 - 06:28 pm Report abuse
 
  
                                      ...welcome to the Terry Hill experience...
                                   ...Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory...
                                                                        ;-))))
72 Terence Hill (#) Jan 10th, 2016 - 06:43 pm Report abuse
71 Voice, V0ice, Vestige, Think et al, sock-puppeteer extraordinaire
I believe it was other way round but then I have no experience of sophistry.
From my perspective I'm more than satisfied.
73 yankeeboy (#) Jan 10th, 2016 - 06:44 pm Report abuse
Sad thing that retard still thinks he's right.

Like a crazy homeless person arguing with himself after everyone's has walked away.
74 Terence Hill (#) Jan 10th, 2016 - 06:54 pm Report abuse
73 yankeebuoy('cause you're all at sea)
You talk the talk but you don't walk the walk. Where have I ever stated that there was a sovereign entity named Canada in 1812. I didn't, so makes you a liar. Since that is the only issue in contention.
75 yankeeboy (#) Jan 10th, 2016 - 07:05 pm Report abuse
Correct and the whole point of this ridiculousness is The USA never invaded Canada because it didn't exist in 1812.
We fought the British in British territory and made peace with the British.
Canadians were never part of anything.
76 Terence Hill (#) Jan 10th, 2016 - 09:19 pm Report abuse
75 yankeebuoy('cause you're all at sea)
You leave history alone because it really shows your of lack education, being the Dominion of Canada did not exist until 1867. But Thomas Jefferson and your own historians use the term Canada in reference to 1812. You fought the British who consisted of one-third of the force apposing you, while two-thirds were the Canadian Militia. In addition, to thousands of indigenous natives who also fought you. This is irrefutable historical recorded facts not supposition. “The USA never invaded Canada” is because you're trying to cover your sorry-ass as you claimed it didn't happen, because you were unaware that this had occurred. Whereas, the US did invade both Upper and Lower Canada, unsuccessfully period. So this is just an attempt just to bury your revealed ignorance in semantics.
77 yankeeboy (#) Jan 11th, 2016 - 12:11 am Report abuse
OMG you don't stop with your idiocy do you?

You're too stupid or crazy to bother with.

Go see a doctor.
78 Terence Hill (#) Jan 11th, 2016 - 12:40 am Report abuse
77 yankeebuoy('cause you're all at sea)
Thank you confirming the truth of my post, as your failure to refute it is considered acquiescence and therefore an endorsement.
But an Einstein like you would know that wouldn't you. “You're too stupid or crazy to bother with” No! The problem for you is you can't think of a plausible sounding lie, I've got you nailed, dead to rights.
79 Tik Tok (#) Jan 11th, 2016 - 11:01 am Report abuse
Well blow me down and call me dusty, I just read the thread above and Terence you really are a stubborn fellow, and I'd have to say quite wrong in your assertions.
80 Terence Hill (#) Jan 11th, 2016 - 12:24 pm Report abuse
9 Tik Tok
Since I had never claimed “The USA invaded Canada” it was mistaken assertion by my opponent. Which he based solely on my claim “you'd know what happened only time you dicky-lickers tried to invade.”
It was his engaging personality and ignorance that kiboshed him. It was with great relish giving an egotistical racist ignoramus his comeuppance. Of cause you're entitled to your opinion but remember they are like derrières, every ones got one. But, then he is part of your little bunch right wing loons that like to preach here, so your not an entirely disinterested party.
81 yankeeboy (#) Jan 11th, 2016 - 12:39 pm Report abuse
Sad thing that retard still thinks he's right.

Like a crazy homeless person arguing with himself after everyone's has walked away.
Go see a doctor.
82 Voice (#) Jan 11th, 2016 - 12:58 pm Report abuse
He may have originally said they only tried to invade...
,,but the subsequent posts tried to prove that the landmass of British North America was known only as Canada...
Yet we know as a fact it was 7 colonies and only two were the “Canadas”...
Always an opinion merchant...and never a Fact one...
...and the only thing right wing about me is the position I played in football (that would be soccer...I was fast)....
83 yankeeboy (#) Jan 11th, 2016 - 01:02 pm Report abuse
Well he's got 5 people telling him he's wrong.
Let's see if that sinks in....

Pretty sure it won't
I think he's has some sort of ocd/autism...
84 Terence Hill (#) Jan 11th, 2016 - 02:42 pm Report abuse
83 yankeebuoy('cause you're all at sea)
Bit of an oxymoron, since you haven't refuted any of my assertions, nor have you established any variance that supports any particular point of your claims. You're sounding more and more Argentinean as truth is not reliant on vox populi. Especially when all your “cheer-leaders” have well established credentials as “fellow-travellers” as in supporting the usual reactionary piffle. Including a “dyed-in-the-wool” Argentine apologist, so your in good company, and that more than confirms I must be doing something right.
85 yankeeboy (#) Jan 11th, 2016 - 03:29 pm Report abuse
1867
That's the proof you're looking for
All the rest of your idiotic posts are irrelevant

Go see a doctor
86 Terence Hill (#) Jan 11th, 2016 - 03:50 pm Report abuse
85 yankeebuoy('cause you're all at sea)
Which was duly acknowledged so that's an absolutely redundant statement. So what's your point? I see you're bereft of any issues, you like to chunter on for the sake of it.
82 Voice, V0ice, Vestige, Think et al, sock-puppeteer extraordinaire
“..tried to prove that the landmass of British North America was known only as Canada…” Another one who trips over his own feet in a rush to pass the line. One small problem, your argument is faulty, all I have indicated is what American historical archives and Thomas Jefferson called the colonies. Confirming that it was also known as Canada at that time, at least to the Americans. But, there is nowhere I have emphatically stated that a pre-Confederation title was Canada.
87 yankeeboy (#) Jan 11th, 2016 - 07:21 pm Report abuse
Terrence, You clearly have OCD or are autistic.
Go see a doctor and
Up your meds.

Even I would concede defeat when 5 people tell me I'm wrong.
thank goodness that's never happened :)
88 Terence Hill (#) Jan 11th, 2016 - 07:39 pm Report abuse
87 yankeebuoy('cause you're all at sea)
What exactly is it that I'm wrong about? You cannot show any proof that I have misstated any historical fact. Whereas you were completely unaware that your own country had failed in two attempts to invade your neighbour.
89 yankeeboy (#) Jan 11th, 2016 - 07:56 pm Report abuse
You're wrong that Canada existed in 1812.
It didn't
We never invaded Canada.
We never fought Canadians

Seriously, you have a mental problem.
Go see a Doc and have him up your meds.
90 Terence Hill (#) Jan 11th, 2016 - 11:25 pm Report abuse
89 yankeebuoy('cause you're all at sea)
You have serious reading and comprehension problems
1) I have NEVER stated “that Canada existed in 1812.” Go on show where.
2) But you did invade Upper and Lower Canada
3) “We never fought Canadians”. Now you are a proven liar as the following posts describe Canadian participation and/or Canadian military units.

#24; ”In Upper and Lower Canada, British and local Canadian militia victories over invading US armies“ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812
”Although the United States was officially at war with Great Britain, more than half of the British forces were made up of Canadian militia. Additionally, many Native Americans/First Nations fought in the war for reasons of their own.“ www.sheppardsoftware.com/canadaweb/factfile/Unique-facts-Canada5.htm

#28; Canadian units of the War of 1812, The Royal Newfoundland Fencibles,etc , etc, etc, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_units_of_the_War_of_1812
et al.

“or the wretched conceit of a liar, in supposing himself clever enough to invent stories so ingenious that they shall, for any time, impose on people for the truth, and the still grosser folly in imagining, as he must do, that the world will, without investigation and analysis, take for granted anything he chooses to assert that world more shrewd, more cunning, and as prying as himself what a conceited ass must the liar be! How superior over others in cunning must he not believe himself! What fools must he not suppose the rest of mankind!”
CHARLES WILLIAM DAY, The Maxims, Experiences, and Observations of Agogos
91 yankeeboy (#) Jan 11th, 2016 - 11:41 pm Report abuse
Washington had expected the largely American population of Upper Canada to throw off the “British yoke” as soon as its army crossed the border. This did not happen. Lured northwards by free land and low taxes, the settlers wanted to be left alone. Thus the British and Loyalist elite were able to set Canadians on a different course from that of their former enemy. And the growing belief that they, the civilian soldiers, and not the First Nations and British regulars, had won the war - more mythic than real - helped to germinate the seeds of nationalism in the Canadas. Canada owes its present shape to negotiations that grew out of the peace, while the war itself - or the myths created by the war - gave Canadians their first sense of community and laid the foundation for their future nationhood.

Sorry loser.
92 Terence Hill (#) Jan 12th, 2016 - 12:18 am Report abuse
91 yankeebuoy('cause you're all at sea)
1) So you have failed to show that I have ever said “that Canada existed in 1812”. So the first lie dispensed with.
2) But you did invade Upper and Lower Canada. So a second lie disposed of.
3) “We never fought Canadians” So your unable to find any support for this fiction, and so the third and final lie is routed.
So the only thing you have proved is that you're a liar, and not a very good one.
93 yankeeboy (#) Jan 12th, 2016 - 10:00 pm Report abuse
Not at all, I proved you're retarded.
Canada didn't exist in 1812.
That's a fact.
So HOW COULD WE INVADE A COUNTRY THAT DIDN”T EXIST?

fcking retard.
94 Terence Hill (#) Jan 12th, 2016 - 11:01 pm Report abuse
93 yankeebuoy('cause you're all at sea)
Like I said you have serious comprehension problems, I didn't say you invaded the Dominion of Canada. What I clearly stated is that you invaded Upper Canada, and Lower Canada twice, and were defeated three times. So your ignoramus claims of what the States can do, and what Canada must do at her behest. Historically at any rate, leave you, deservedly looking ridicules. It couldn't happen to a nicer person, come back when you've completed your grade 5 history requirements. That's why an intelligent person is a straight shooter and doesn't lead with their ego, especially with an opponent who can beat you each and every which way. Just on the facts of the issue, and unlike you, doesn't have resort to lying because you've lost.
95 Jack Bauer (#) Jan 13th, 2016 - 05:41 pm Report abuse
@ 49 Twinkletoes
Glad to see you kept my posts.....read them a bit more and they might sink into your thick skull. The gist of what I've said all along, is that in 1964, the military option was better than the communist one, but I concede that it might to too difficult for you to comprehend.
As I said before, time for you to pull your doll out of the closet ....and remember : to inflate it, don't suck....well, do whatever you want - as long as you enjoy it, you dimwit...
96 Terence Hill (#) Jan 13th, 2016 - 07:43 pm Report abuse
95 Tweedledum
You asked at #48 Jack Bauer, “Your futile insistence that I'm a fascist and anti-democratic … What is your expert opinion based on ? ” You asked a question and I answered. “..it might to too difficult for you to comprehend.” On the contrary your opinions are crystal clear and capture your political views with abundant clarity. What sinks you is your arrogant infantile egotism that your thoughts are paramount and superior to everybody else's. Whats even more revealing about your character besides being proved a liar, is the cowardly way in which you use anonymity to engage in personal attacks. Knowing full-well that you wouldn't to say it to my face.
97 Jack Bauer (#) Jan 14th, 2016 - 06:19 pm Report abuse
@96 Twinkletoes
No use trying to explain . We all know the what kind of crap you are made of.

“Knowing full-well that you wouldn't to say it to my face”.....
How pretentious of you ....but you are wrong ; why wouldn't I say it to your face ? only problem would be not knowing which one to say it to...
98 Terence Hill (#) Jan 14th, 2016 - 07:21 pm Report abuse
95,97 Tweedledum
“the military option was better than the communist one.” Stuff and nonsense, all that had occurred was a government was elected that rightly or wrongly wanted to be more inclusive. There was absolutely no indication that it was anything other than totally democratic in conduct and outlook. Those self-serving persons, whose interests had previously been disproportionally represented. Refused to except the verdict of the ballot-box. Therefore, they were utterly apposed to the cardinal principle of “Government of the people, by the people, for the people,…” - Abraham Lincoln. Just as you are.
No because you would have a sudden and acute discovery as to exactly why I had earned the sobriquet 'The Legend,' and too the best of my knowledge I'm the only one of my 125,000 colleagues who was so honoured.

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