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Brazil's secret dealings to contract Cuban physicians to work in the More Doctors program
Folha de Sao Paulo a leading Brazilian daily has revealed the secret negotiations between the administration of ex-president Dilma Rousseff and the Cuban government to contract Cuban doctors to work in Brazil. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rules”Xenophobic tweets end healthcare access for 60 million Brazilians
Nov 22nd, 2018 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse -1Brazil did not have a shortage of doctors at the time. The problem was that, since it is a traditional elite profession dominated by white members of the upper middle class, most doctors preferred to live in the big cities and there was a major shortage of people willing to live in small towns or work in favelas. Due to this historic problem 700 Brazilian counties had no doctors at all in their public health posts
After the More Doctors program was inaugurated, the Federal Government posted all of the job openings for doctors in remote areas, with a just salary of approximately R$13,000/month (around $6500 USD at the time). If the posts were not filled by Brazilians, they would invite Cuban doctors to fill them. Over the past 5 years, 20,000 Cuban doctors came to Brazil and provided treatment for 113 million patients. This program enabled to government to extend public health coverage to 60 million people. It also infuriated a lot of Brazilian doctors, who are a traditional bastion of Brazil’s white upper middle class. The fact that most Cuban doctors who came over were black infuriated a lot of people in this class, and racist incidents proliferated. When they first arrived, some black Cuban doctors were greeted at airports by crowds of white doctors chanting monkey noises and racists slurs. After these uncomfortable incidents subsided, surveys of patients showed that they preferred them over their Brazilian counterparts.
http://www.brasilwire.com/xenophobic-tweets-end-healthcare-access-for-60-million-brazilians/
TO MAKE IT SHORT & SWEET:
Nov 22nd, 2018 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://acton.org/pub/commentary/2018/11/21/intellectual-maverick-behind-brazils-conservative-wave
TH has filled a gaping void left in the above one-sided story that shows how some media manipulates reality to foster some interests while portraying others in a negative light.
Nov 22nd, 2018 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TH shows the real consequences of bringing Cuban doctors to Brazil, that is to improve medical attention in rural and impoverished areas -- areas where Brazilian doctors were reluctant to cover.
As such, the point the story above, which tried to suggest some wrongdoing by the PT government, is never supported.
The intent, of course, is to justify the fully expected Bolsonaro's hostility against the More Doctors program.
Let's see how the elected Brazil president provides medical services in rural areas after the Cuban doctors leave the country.
@EM:
Nov 23rd, 2018 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0REF: “Let's see how the elected Brazil president provides medical services in rural areas after the Cuban doctors leave the country”:
IT'S SO EASY!!!
https://i0.wp.com/www.humorpolitico.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Fundo-Poco.jpg?resize=768%2C959&ssl=1
MEDICC Applauds TIME Magazine’s Person of the Year: the Ebola Fighters-Cuban nurses and doctors among the brave
Nov 23rd, 2018 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0in News
Oakland, Calif. December 12, 2014 —MEDICC applauded Time Magazine’s choice for Person of the Year 2014: the Ebola Fighters on the frontlines of stopping the epidemic in West Africa, including the 256-member Cuban medical team, the largest continent from any one country. The nurses and physicians are working under WHO auspices.
http://medicc.org/ns/medicc-applauds-time-magazines-person-of-the-year-the-ebola-fighters-cuban-nurses-and-doctors-among-the-brave/
@TH
Nov 24th, 2018 - 12:07 am - Link - Report abuse +1REF: “The [Cuban] nurses and physicians are working under WHO auspices”:
Curtsy Cuba - a ordered by Fidel, of course!
https://rolhasuave.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/medico-cubano.jpg
”The latest evidence of what researchers have called the “Cuban paradox” comes in the form of a dramatic announcement from the World Health Organization (WHO) this week: Cuba has become the first nation in the world to eliminate the transmission of HIV and syphilis from pregnant mothers to their children. The organization called it “one of the greatest public health achievements possible” and “an important step towards having an AIDS-free generation.”
Nov 24th, 2018 - 01:26 am - Link - Report abuse -1https://www.fastcompany.com/3048147/cuba-proves-once-again-it-has-one-of-the-best-healthcare-systems-in-the-world
@TH
Nov 24th, 2018 - 11:55 am - Link - Report abuse +1REF: “After these uncomfortable incidents subsided, surveys of patients showed that they preferred them over their Brazilian counterparts”
Are you sure that the Cuban Medics won't be requested to be sent back to Brazil - under one pretext or another; by the same govt which made them return to Cuba?
Are you new to the OFFICIAL CLOWNING?
http://www.opantaneiro.com.br/upload/dn_noticia/2017/02/256607870589da00f0d82e9.70701838.png
EM
Nov 25th, 2018 - 03:45 am - Link - Report abuse -1TH has resorted to a lefty source (Brasilwire)...again .....unfortunately, unreliable, tendentious, and only tells half the story....the other half includes the fact that Cuba decided unilaterally to withdraw it's 8,500 feldshers after Bolsonaro said he would demand that they prove they are qualified, and that they be paid decent salaries.....Now, that was an attempt to improve conditions for patients, as well as the “doctors”...........what is wrong with that ?
When you need a doctor in Canada, do you consult a paramedic ?
C'mon Reekie, be honest for ONCE.....and tell us, when was it exactly that you lived here and travelled extensilvely to all Brazil's impoverished areas ?....you know, those you know so well...or are you embarking on TH's sh*t, again ?
JB
Nov 25th, 2018 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse -1”Has resorted to a lefty source (Brasilwire)“ Plus two other sources, the truth of any of them you're unable to refute.
”He would demand that they prove they are qualified“ Guess Cuba doesn't need Brazil that much. Since their medical competence has earned them ”Time Magazine’s choice for Person of the Year 2014”. A further endorsement endorsement from the UN. ”Cuba trains young physicians worldwide in its Latin American School of Medicine (ELAM).
According to Ban Ki-moon, Secretary General of the UN, ELAM is “the world’s most advanced medical school.”
”Announcement from the World Health Organization (WHO) this week: Cuba has become the first nation in the world to eliminate the transmission of HIV and syphilis from pregnant mothers to their children. The organization called it “one of the greatest public health achievements possible”
So with the ilk of you and Bolsonaro believing you have the situation in hand. You better hope that those coxinha's step up to the plate and offer their medical expertise. Otherwise, Brazil is rapidly going to fall down the ladder ratings of 'public health'.
TH
Nov 25th, 2018 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse -1When will you learn that your sources are unreliable ? and that I don't need to refute any of them.....fact is you need to prove they are right…but you can’t.
“Guess Cuba doesn't need Brazil that much”...understatement of the year.....Brazil has never needed Cuba…Lula and Dilma may have, so besides being the other way round, d'you think Cuba can afford to lose US$ 1,5 billion/year ?
“Otherwise, Brazil is rapidly going to fall down the ladder ratings of 'public health'.”
Is that supposed to be a joke ? 'cause if it isn't, it IS funny...
Public health is already so bad, unchanged by Cuban presence, don't see how it can fall any lower ...in your “ladder ratings”....
Also, instead of hiding behind your unreliable left-wing sources, why don’t you show how knowledgeable you are ‘n answer the 6 questions I asked you under “Orthodox Liberal appointed to Brazil’s Central bank” ? and if you intend to wiggle and squirm your way out of it, just don’t bother replying, don’t waste my time.
JB
Nov 25th, 2018 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse -1“or are you embarking on TH's sh*t, again ?”
You may disagree with me, what you cannot do is libel me without the response of showing your litany of lies.
http://en. mercopress.com/2018/04/04/brazil-s-conundrum-army-chief-twits-good-citizens-repudiate-impunity-and-respect-the-constitution/comments#comment486481
http://en. mercopress.com/2017/07/12/brazil-former-president-lula-da-silva-found-guilty-of-corruption/comments#comment470714
http://en. mercopress.com/2017/07/20/ex-brazilian-president-assets-and-bank-accounts-frozen/comments#comment471145
http://en.mercopress.com/2018/03/20/lula-begins-tour-of-south-brazil-and-meets-mujica-but-it-was-a-bad-day-for-both-leaders/comments#comment485779
When will you learn that your opinion doesn't counter the facts provided by an authoritative source.
“fact is you need to prove...” nothing as the onus is yours to counter such an authority.
“Fallacious shifting of the burden of proof occurs if someone makes a claim that needs justification, then demands that the opponent justify the opposite of the claim. The opponent has no such burden until evidence is presented for the claim.”
http://en.mercopress.com/2018/03/20/lula-begins-tour-of-south-brazil-and-meets-mujica-but-it-was-a-bad-day-for-both-leaders/comments#comment485779
Brazil already requires its young men to perform in the military. Perhaps a condition of newly qualified physicians should be to do a similar service. By compelling them to provide their skills on behalf of the national interest.
@TH
Nov 25th, 2018 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse -2“I cannot libel you” ? are you 'that' sensitive, or just plain stupid ?
You claimed ELAM is amongst the top medical schools in the world, and endorsed an article which stated Cuban doctors are the best in the world....right ?
So, obviously you believe what you post....right ?
Because if you don't, you are seriously demented.
Ok, now that we've settled that, you might do well by doing a bit of research, to find out that the top medical schools in the world, are :
Harvard, Oxford Univ, Cambridge Univ, Stanford, Johns Hopkins, Karolinska (Sweden), UCLA, Yale, MIT, UCL (UK).....the top 10, in that order.
The world's ranking of the first 500 institutions, has several South American ones, however doesn't even mention the Escuela Latino-Americana de Medicina.....so what happened ?
Even Brazil has over ten medical schools in the first 200, and the USP medical school is 51st. Even medical schools in Africa are mentioned, but ELAM ? “nada” !!
“...without the response of showing your litany of lies.” ???
What's the matter with you ? are you so daft that you think that by presenting what you call a 'litany of lies' makes the slightest difference ?
The problem with you is that you classify everything YOU disagree with, as a lie.
Just like before, you never learned the difference between having an opinion and stating a fact, now you are having trouble realizing that what you disagree with is not necessarily a lie.....sad state of affairs, isn't it numb nuts ?
JB
Nov 26th, 2018 - 12:13 am - Link - Report abuse -2“You claimed ELAM...” I cited the opinion of the former Secretary General of the UN, Ban Ki-moon.
In answer to your opinion that Cuban medics were not qualified doctors. Ki-moon should know as such matters were within his little world's certain knowledge. “d'you think Cuba can afford to lose US$ 1,5 billion/year ?” They obviously do as there is plenty of employment for competent physicians in the world at large, Brazil's loss will be someone else's gain. Oh yes, I can hear all those stampeding coxinha's rushing out of the cities to take their place.
Of course you have libelled me if you make untrue statements, which you clearly do, as you can show nowhere what you claim is true.
“You classify everything YOU disagree with...” I show statements you have made, and subsequently deny. Or in the alternative you have claimed facts I presented as untrue, even in the face of supporting evidence. Such as indicated in citations in my last post.
SUPPORTING EVIDENCE [!?!]:
Nov 26th, 2018 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.facebook.com/bloghorah/videos/926182967515066/
@TH
Nov 26th, 2018 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When you cite someone's opinion - in this case Ban Ki-moon's - to back up your's, it is tantamount to endorsing it...which means you believe it's true...
On the other hand, do you really expect a Secretary General of the UN, who has to be diplomatic 'n tries to be as politically correct as possible, to be 100% honest and say things as they are ?
“coxinha”, is that YOUR new favourite term ? so what are you, a “MORTADELA” ?? altho you love to deny it, everything that comes out of your pie-hole proves you are a stinkin'
communist....you defend everything to do with the left-wing, attack everything that isn't.
“untrue” statements ? only in your uninformed opinion...what I write about is common knowledge amongst the better-informed or, those that do not resort to, and limit themselves to, left-wing sites.....like 'averdadedelula', 'brasilwire', 'carta maior' etc, as you do.....
Is it because you're afraid the TRUTH might be different to their, and YOUR VERSION of the facts ?
Terry, I honestly couldn't care less what you try to resuscitate, because if I wrote it, I stand behind it....but please, show me ONE instance in which I have later 'denied' something I wrote...and don't send just the link, write it out in full...after all, we don't want any misunderstandings, (such as your taking things 'out-of-context'), do we ???
If not sad, would be hilarious how you, who : -
1st, does little or no research worth talking of ;
2nd, when you do, it's limited to your favourite leftist sites; and,
3rd, are the champion when it comes down to denying what you have just written, or trying to wiggle out of situations where you've really put your foot in it...(very often..)
Still waiting for you to reply to the 6 questions on your Cuban feldshers, or at least say you don't know how to...C'mon Terry, stop being a rat...
JB
Nov 26th, 2018 - 04:36 pm - Link - Report abuse -1“When you cite someone's opinion...” Absolutely irrelevant, the issue is your claim that the CUBAN DOCTORS ARE UNQUALIFIED. For which you have failed to meet your burden and provide evidence. “untrue” statements ?.. only in your uninformed opinion..“ If what is true why is it can't you show where? Because it isn't.
”don't send just the link” Wrong the links provide all substance that prove my claim to any third party. I have provided in full many times before, so I have met my burden.
So you keep moving those goal-posts, and piffling on. So until you comply with the requirement of argumentative theory, the issue is closed, as a result of your failure to prove your assertion. It's over sayonara.
TH
Nov 26th, 2018 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As a matter of fact, you are quite funny ...way above you wrote:-
“Guess Cuba doesn't need Brazil that much. Since their medical competence has earned them ”Time Magazine’s choice for Person of the Year 2014”........REALLY ??
I presume you stand by that ? or are you going to say someone else wrote it ? perhaps Ban Ki Moon ?
The reason I ask is because Cuba's offer to 'send' its “Doctors” program to Brazil in 2012 (which had to be negotiated in secret....why ? was it a matter of a national security ?) was motivated by Cuba' incapacity to honour its payments for the construction of the Port of Mariel, built by Odebrecht , and financed by the BNDES....there are any amount of telegrams, e-mails etc, you name it, all published in the “Folha de São Paulo”....(if YOU want proof, look it up yourself you lazy prick).
And just to add insult to injury, Cuba has defaulted on the payments...
Right Terry, so we all agree, Cuba's financial situation has never been better....(LOL).
JB
Nov 26th, 2018 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse -1“which had to be negotiated in secret...”, to prevent interference from Brazilians doctors, as I have previously posted
'I presume you stand by that...“, again, as I have previously posted.
”MEDICC Applauds TIME Magazine’s Person of the Year: the Ebola Fighters-Cuban nurses and doctors among the brave
in News
Oakland, Calif. December 12, 2014 —MEDICC applauded Time Magazine’s choice for Person of the Year 2014: the Ebola Fighters on the frontlines of stopping the epidemic in West Africa, including the 256-member Cuban medical team, the largest contingent from any one country. The nurses and physicians are working under WHO auspices.“
http://medicc.org/ns/medicc-applauds-time-magazines-person-of-the-year-the-ebola-fighters-cuban-nurses-and-doctors-among-the-brave/
The issue is your claim that the CUBAN DOCTORS ARE UNQUALIFIED. For which you have failed to meet your burden and provide evidence.
To wit: ”To withdraw it's 8,500 feldshers”
@TH
Nov 27th, 2018 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0REF: “The issue is your claim that the CUBAN DOCTORS ARE UNQUALIFIED”:
I was told that realistically observing, Brazil needs medics - not just to replace the 8'000 & odd Cubans [Qualified or not, competent or not] but many - too many - more;
- judging by the queues of the patients,
- judging by the waiting periods,
- judging by the lack of space,
- judging by the hygiene,
- judging by the lack of medication + lack of dedication of the medics in a majority of the Public-Clinics & Hospitals!
@TH
Nov 27th, 2018 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse -1“The issue is your claim that the CUBAN DOCTORS ARE UNQUALIFIED”......
Oh , so now only THAT is the issue ?
That they are no more than glorified nurses, or paramedics, is a well-known fact here, confirmed by the limited range of services they performed.....why didn't we see them in the OR's, doing serious surgery, saving lives, instead of traipsing around the remote countryside, just counselling, prescribing preventive medical measures 'n handing out pills ? You can't answer that, can you ?
But the unanswered question remains : IF they are the best - as you claimed - why did Cuba prefer to withdraw them than to have them tested ? What is Cuba afraid of ?
Can't wait to hear your explanation.
You also claimed ““Guess Cuba doesn't need Brazil that much.”...........the fact that Cuba can't pay it's bills, is proof enough that Cuba needs any country, including Brazil, not the other way around.
Care to comment ?
You stated - or endorsed opinions, which is the exact same thing - that the Cubans were the best doctors in the world....Yet ELAM (established in 1999) is not even listed in the ranking of the first 500 medical institutions in the world.....
How come ?
You think I'm wrong, so why don't YOU prove YOUR claims, and actually answer the simple questions I asked you ? but which you systematically REFUSE to.
JB
Nov 27th, 2018 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The issue is your claim that the CUBAN DOCTORS ARE UNQUALIFIED”......
So thanks for the confirmation that you absolutely no proof, which means they are exactly who they claim to be. Since its you who bear the burden to prove, not your opponents to disprove. If you fail then you have once again revealed yourself as a proven liar.
”ei incumbit probatio, qui dicit, non qui negat (cum per rerum naturam factum negantis probation nulla sit)-the burden of proof lies upon him who affirms, not on him who denies, (since by the nature of things, he who denies a fact cannot produce any proof).“
Besides, your a little short of credibility in the opining category to wit.
http://en.mercopress.com/2018/11/22/brazil-s-secret-dealings-to-contract-cuban-physicians-to-work-in-the-more-doctors-program/comments#comment495051
”You think I'm wrong” My opinion isn't required but compliance with the accepted norms of argumentative theory is, you've lost, it's over sayonara
@JB
Nov 28th, 2018 - 12:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0You don't see GPs or most doctors doing serious surgery either, because they've specialised in something else. Brazil already has enough surgeons and consultants by the sounds of it, what they lacked was doctors who could do basic healthcare and preventative medicine in isolated regions, and that's what they got. Seems like a good match to me, especially if it was helping Cuba pay their debt to Brazil.
Why is everyone still complaining; now that the problem is solved?
Nov 28th, 2018 - 08:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.chargeonline.com.br/php/DODIA//jbosco.jpg
“Bolsonaro's Son Travels To The US To Strengthen Ties With Washington
Nov 28th, 2018 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Eduardo Bolsonaro also met with Kimberly Breier, the new Assistant Secretary of State for the Western Hemisphere, responsible for US relations with Latin America, the Caribbean, and Canada.
Breier commended the president-elect for his stance toward the Mais Médicos program. Cuba recently withdrew its physicians from the program.”
https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/internacional/en/world/2018/11/bolsonaros-son-travels-to-the-us-to-strengthen-ties-with-washington.shtml
@DT
Nov 28th, 2018 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I never criticized the “work” the Cubans were doing - as I've said before, it was better than nothing - but I think you've missed the point.
What I disliked about it, is the way in which the PMM was negotiated (as a State secret, that even bypassed Congress's authority) and the reason behind the deal (to allow Cuba to pay off it's debt to Brazil), in that it was all negotiated with ulterior motives.
The details of the progam, which surfaced only after the ban on secrecy was lifted, confirm this.
Regarding the possibility that these “doctors” be GP's, which excludes them from serious interventions, characterizes their function in Brazil, as mere medical technicians.....A similar program, IF to be really effective, would require properly trained doctors of ALL specializations, fully equipped hospitals with functioning ER's, because if surgery was required in some remote region, what happened ? either the patient would die, or would have to be flown to some big center to receive treatment, or to be operated on. In that sense, the activities of the Cubans were pretty limited, and by no means a definitive solution to Brazil's public healthcare system.....but the PT (in the same way it did with the BF), implemented the PMM as if it WERE the definitive solution, as if that was all that was needed, and then boast about the 'wonderful' heathcare being received by poor Brazilians ....just a big, expensive farce.
What was done paralelly, to one day, substitute them ? nothing. Do the minimum necry, then sell it as the maximum.
On the other hand, if the PMM had been contracted in a transparent form, with its conditions out in the open, Brazilians knowing what they were paying for, the range of services being offered, and what to expect, it's acceptance would not be in question now.
So the question remains : if the PMM was indeed something good, which would solve most of Brazil's healthcare problems, WHY was everything done under the counter ?
@TH
IDAWI.
JB
Nov 28th, 2018 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”What I disliked about it, is the way in which the PMM was negotiated (as a State secret, that even bypassed Congress's authority) and the reason behind the deal (to allow Cuba to pay off it's debt to Brazil)“ Another of your bullshit stories that you think you can fluff off on someone whom you consider who is stupid enough believe you. When the reason has already been stated in the main stream press.
”THE NEGOTIATIONS WERE KEPT IN SECRECY to avoid negative reactions from the Brazilian medical community.“
https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/internacional/en/brazil/2018/11/cuba-first-offered-physicians-to-brazil-official-documents-show.shtml
”Regarding the possibility that these “doctors” be GP's, which excludes them from serious interventions, characterizes their function in Brazil, as mere medical technicians..” Another lie as General Practitioners world wide are simply that. First line MD's who want to practise front line medicine rather the specialising in another branch. You won't be able to produce any evidence to refute this, which will leave your assertion as completely bogus. No surprise, as it's issued by an inveterate liar.
“secret dealings”:
Nov 29th, 2018 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0MUCH simpler than one can imagine:
https://i2.wp.com/skylandspatriot.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/ending-corruption1.jpg?fit=740%2C400
For the Pan American Health Organization (PAHO) in Brazil Joaquín Molina, the arrival of Cuban physicians in Brazil to work in the Mais Médicos program was an emergency solution to a moment where the country “was in a dire situation” with the lack of doctors in rural Brazil.
Nov 30th, 2018 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0According to Molina, who works in Brazil since 2012 and followed the program since the beginning, “it was obvious that foreign doctors were needed.”
“When Brazil created Mais Médicos, the country was in a dire situation, with thousands of positions available, but either vacant or partially filled.”
Five years later, he says that the high number of foreign doctors in areas where no Brazilian physicians are not interested in going shows that the problem of scarcity and uneven distribution of healthcare professionals persists.
https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/internacional/en/brazil/2018/11/brazil-was-in-dire-situation-before-cuban-doctors-says-paho-representative.shtml
TH
Nov 30th, 2018 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think whatever you want numb nuts.
I don't argue with (commie) idiots.
JB
Nov 30th, 2018 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I don't argue” period especially when it is proved that what you claim is absolutely untrue.
I look forward to the next facist segue waltzing into view.
Be original Numb nuts.....I know you can't , but at least pretend...
Nov 30th, 2018 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0IDAWI.
JB
Nov 30th, 2018 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Must be true as your unable to refute it. But then you've always had a problem with truth.
@TH
Dec 01st, 2018 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0REF: “it was obvious that foreign doctors were needed”:
Foreign Doctors are needed; because the salary offered to a brazilian doctor is not at all attractive which clearly shows that the doctors earn better without leaving their homes. It in turn also shows that the economy actually is booming [or the population is not worried about unemployment] and the Financial Crisis is just a myth.
- The BIGGEST problem of Brazil; is the Overpopulation and the country can be looked after better - can actually prosper - at a faster rate if the population is much smaller.
@TH
Dec 01st, 2018 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Must be true....” If you say so Numb nuts...
JB
Dec 01st, 2018 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Another home-run bozo.
PIMBA
TH
Dec 01st, 2018 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nice to know you are happy with so little....IDAWI.
Uhhhh, PIMBA ? you da man !!!
JB
Dec 01st, 2018 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“so little” my thoughts exactly, blathering on even after you've been revealed for what you really are.
Both, proof less and truth less.
REF: “More Doctors program”: In reality, this is yet another typically USELESS Project.
Dec 01st, 2018 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brazil does not even need more doctors - neither from abroad nor from within the country; as there are enough local doctors already well-spread throughout Brazil:
BRAZIL NEEDS MORE DOCTORS - SAYS WHO?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/brazilian-boy-subjected-to-voodoo-needle-ritual-on-road-to-recovery-1853935.html
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