Wednesday, December 21st 2011 - 05:34 UTC

Mercosur signs free trade agreement with Palestinian Authority

Mercosur signed a free trade agreement with the Palestinian Authority on Tuesday, the first between the territories and a block of nations outside the Arab world. The ceremony took place during Mercosur presidential summit in Montevideo.

Foreign Affairs Minister Riyad Al Maliki (R) thanked Mercosur member countries

Foreign Affairs Minister Riyad Al Maliki signed on behalf of the Palestinians, and thanked Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay for having recognized the Palestinian territories as a sovereign and independent nation.

In the West Bank town of Beit Jala Monday evening, chief negotiator Saeb Erekat called the agreement very important to Palestinian institution-building, but complained that Israeli controls are stifling his people's economy.

Diplomats have been negotiating the agreement for a year, officials said.

The only Mercosur nation that has any trade with the Palestinians is Argentina, according to the Latin American Integration Association (ALADI), a regional trade association.

”We hope that (the Mercosur countries) can help us end the suffering of the Palestinian people and reach a peace agreement between Palestine and Israel,“ Maliki said at the ceremony. “We are glad to know we have so many friends in the region”.

Besides the Foreign Affairs ministers, the four presidents from Mercosur full members, Cristina Fernandez, Dilma Rousseff, Fernando Lugo and Jose Mujica attended the ceremony.

The Mercosur nations along with Venezuela -- currently in the process of joining the trade bloc -- all recognized the Palestinian state over the past year.

The Palestinians have free trade agreements with the European Union, Turkey, and all Arab nations, while Mercosur has a free trade agreement with Israel also came into effect in March

The business attaché in Israel's embassy in Montevideo, Ron Gerstenfeld, told local news agencies that the accord ”is not the best way to promote peace” in the Middle East, but said Israel respects the Mercosur nation's decision.

According to Palestinian sources Brazilian Foreign Affairs minister Antonio Patriota asked his peers that in paragraph 42 of the Mercosur summit final declaration which refers to Palestinian rights, the demand for a major involvement of Mercosur nations in the Middle East peace process be added.
 

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1 Rufus (#) Dec 21st, 2011 - 10:34 am Report abuse
Showing support to a group of people who have lived in the same place for generations, whose nearest neighbour is blockading their borders and inhibiting trade is laudable.
Shame they can't manage it a little closer to home.
2 stillakelper (#) Dec 21st, 2011 - 11:22 am Report abuse
Strong support to the people of Palestine in their quest for self-determination. Very laudable, and a moral philosophy they should adopt around the world.
3 livin' in argentina (#) Dec 21st, 2011 - 05:31 pm Report abuse
Totally agree. It's laughable. I wonder why they don't say the Israelis should leave and return the land the Palestinians?
Or perhaps they are biding their time. Originally Israel was part of the Territorial integrity of Argentina. Little known fact! Why. because lot's of Arabs left there once and came to Argentina. In a hundred years it will be Argentine Mediterranean territory. Doesn't matter if it overlaps anyone else's claim. Just keep teaching the Children the “facts”.
4 ChrisR (#) Dec 21st, 2011 - 08:25 pm Report abuse
#2 stillakelper
I am amazed at your post.

Do you not understand that every country around Israel has always and still is trying to wipe them off the map, just like Argentina is trying to do with the Falklands (there are no Malvinas)?

The Palestinians are nothing but a bunch of lazy people who want everything given to them and their leaders, due to their intransigence, consign them to many more years in the camps.

They have had plenty of opportunities to make their lives better: they lack the will to do it.

Do your neighbours on the Falklands agree with your comments?
5 Yuleno (#) Dec 21st, 2011 - 09:52 pm Report abuse
#4 You write some real rubbish,it's a pity your family has to live with you.

Nobody wants to wipe Israel of the map,it's the occupiers they want off,if anything.Like the Malvinas,the Brutish put them there,not because they came from there 2,000 years previously,but because they could.And even then,they removed the indigenous people with their customary violence.
And you prattle bigoted rubbish as usual.Perhaps if you really were the creator you could fix it.But you are not and there is a great force than you.
If Israel is a Jewish state how does an atheist justify the palestinian situation other than with the rubbish you write.Ease correct me if I'm wrong.
6 livin' in argentina (#) Dec 22nd, 2011 - 12:22 am Report abuse
Oh come on. Iran has said numerous times it wants to wipe Israel off the map. Surly they haven't censored that information in Argentina as well?
Actually the Jews were already going there long before the British were handed control of Palestine after WW1. We certainly did not put them there. The British were subjected to attacks later on by the Jews whilst engaging in keeping the two sides from killing each other. It sounded like a good idea at the time to allow a Jewish state after the aftermath of WW2. An easy sell. I'm not saying I neccesarily agree with it but I understand their thinking at the time.

The problem now is you have a new generation of Jews born there. Are they colonists? At what point do they not become colonists?
7 xbarilox (#) Dec 22nd, 2011 - 12:44 am Report abuse
@ 6 Do you remember why Israel is there and why Iran is there and how the UK govt is involved in the history of those countries and their tragedies? The world has changed so much, and you people don't get it, get it while it's easy :P

@ 4 lady, you're always amazed :)
8 livin' in argentina (#) Dec 22nd, 2011 - 01:52 am Report abuse
Yes I do know. How can the UK not be involved in some way in every country in the world? The point is what's done is done. different times with a different way of thinking. Now we need to think logically. Just because people long dead made decisions ( good or bad) doesn't mean that the living should carry on regardless, blindly. There are basic human rights and they should take priority.
9 Forgetit87 (#) Dec 22nd, 2011 - 05:51 am Report abuse
”Do you not understand that every country around Israel has always and still is trying to wipe them off the map, just like Argentina is trying to do with the Falklands (there are no Malvinas)?”

And why shouldn't they? Even before Israel's creation, Jews in Palestine have acted as little conquerors, as brutal colonialists, disturbing the regions's local populations - with terrorism, military actions, psychological torture, you name it - until they leave the area so the Jews could claim it as a basis for their state. Israel is an expansionist power who was born out of ethnically cleansing native populations from regions they have occupied for many, many centuries before the first Zionist was born. Clearly, Israel's a threat for the national security of neighboring populations. And understadably - either because they fear Israeli brutality or because of solidarity the the Palestinian brothers - understably, as I was saying, the Israel's Arab neighbors have sought to curb that threat. Everything else is just Israeli propaganda - just hasbara.
10 ChrisR (#) Dec 22nd, 2011 - 12:04 pm Report abuse
5 Yuleno:- see 6 livin' in argentina

BTW can you not see your argument against mine has the following flaws:
”Nobody wants to wipe Israel of the map,(sic) it's the occupiers they want off (just like Argentina and the Falklands (there are no Malvinas)), if anything.(sic) Like the Malvinas,(sic) the Brutish(sic) put them there,(sic) not because they came from there 2,000 years previously,(sic) but because they could.(sic) And even then,(sic) they removed the indigenous people with their customary violence (just like Argentina in the south).

Please note that (sic) indicates where you have made a spelling error or gramatical ommision - in these cases you never put a space after a comma or period (full stop in English) - it makes your posts even more tedious to read and, at times, incomprehensible.

So, in summary, the Palestinians are very like the Argies, in that they want to murder a complete group of people: I think you managed to prove my case better than me, thank you.
11 Yuleno (#) Dec 22nd, 2011 - 01:15 pm Report abuse
#10 I've read the rubbish you have once again posted.Very discouraging of any construction contribution from you.You really need to handle your fears so that you can get yourself adjusted.
1-Israel is an area of land.It is not responsible for any of this.
2-As living#remarks in a later post,the state of Israel,a Jewish state,was imposed on the region because Europe had a problem.
3-Do you not realise that instead of solving it problem,it didn't.It shipped it somewhere else,and now we have an Islamic revival which is portrayed as terroistic in some of it's manifestations.Crucially,I believe,the real terrorists are those who created the state of Israel,the Jewish state.
4-Unfortunately for living# he thinks the situation is accepted as a bad decision in hindsight,but he doesn't as far as to say what can resolve it.I think the removal of israel's statehood and it's return to Palestine in a non-Islamic state might be a proposal.And that my friend is what might resolve the issue of las Malvinas.
5-It is significant that the Brutish a involved in both disputes,and still don't want to prioritise the resolution of either.
89 years left?
12 ChrisR (#) Dec 22nd, 2011 - 04:56 pm Report abuse
11 Yuleno
So I suppose your mates in Iran and Syria are just lovely little boys who play with fireworks, just the the Palestine rocket 'men', aka fucking cowards.

BTW you mention my fears. The only fear I have is that we will not be allowed to deal with the Argentine problem in the manner it should be dealt with.

But perhaps we will, let's wait and see.:o)
13 Forgetit87 (#) Dec 22nd, 2011 - 07:25 pm Report abuse
Who are the fucking cowards? Palestinians who are fighting against a nuclear armed bully, or Israelis, who constantly kill and maim children from their military jets?

Yuleno has it right, and Chrissy, who's unsurprisingly too stupid to give a meaningful reply, instead engages in this cheap demonization of the NATIVE people of Palestine.

In support for Yuleno's contention - that Israel, a country created by means of ethnic cleansing of the original people of Palestine, was indeed established because of Europe's racism problem, a problem for which defenseless Arabs have had to pay later on - here are the words of Israel's very first PM, David Ben Gurion:

“Why should the Arabs make peace? If I were an Arab leader I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural: we have taken their country. Sure, God promised it to us, but what does that matter to them? Our God is not theirs. We come from Israel, it's true, but two thousand years ago, and what is that to them? There has been antisemitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They only see one thing: we have come here and stolen their country. Why should they accept that?”
14 livin' in argentina (#) Dec 23rd, 2011 - 01:45 am Report abuse
11 Yuleno (#)
2-As living#remarks in a later post,the state of Israel,a Jewish state,was imposed on the region because Europe had a problem.
---The Jews had already begun migrating and buying land in “Palestine” long before the wars. Before WW2 (and after) this increased dramatically. Then the majority of that area (jews) wanted to be independant. The British forces stationed there to keep the peace were attacked. Britain set the lines (Balfour declaration/agreement..can't remember). We at least could not do very much about it. The majority by this time were the jews. From now on the jewish areas became Israel and Israel is what Iran and others want to wipe of the map.

-Do you not realise that instead of solving it problem,it didn't.It shipped it somewhere else,and now we have an Islamic revival which is portrayed as terroistic in some of it's manifestations.Crucially,I believe,the real terrorists are those who created the state of Israel,the Jewish state.

---agreed. But It probably sounded like a good idea at the time. Hindsight is better than foresight!

4-Unfortunately for living# he thinks the situation is accepted as a bad decision in hindsight,but he doesn't as far as to say what can resolve it.I think the removal of israel's statehood and it's return to Palestine in a non-Islamic state might be a proposal.And that my friend is what might resolve the issue of las Malvinas.

---To resolve it...my god...thousands have had ideas and tried to implement them and not one has worked. I can not possibly offer an alternative that has not most likely already been tried. But I know that what you suggest cannot work. Remove there statehood? They exist therefore they are a state whether your or I except them or not. Returning it to Palestine. Well that would simply lead to the Jewish territories fighting for independence and we (they) are back to square one.
Ok if you want an opinion i will offer this. There will be no peace AT ALL EVER whilst Religion is so prominent.
15 ChrisR (#) Dec 23rd, 2011 - 01:29 pm Report abuse
To all the Argies moaning and bleating on behalf of the poor, downtrodden Palestine mongrels.

WE ARE WHERE WE ARE with this situation, (much like the Falklands (there are no Malvinas)) and if you think I am for one second going to drop my support of the Israelis’, then you are even more deluded than normal.

All the rag headed ‘states’ tried and failed to bomb Israel out of existence. They are Jews, not Muslimist extremists who are determined to kill all none believers. It is they who need to be ‘removed’, and the sooner the better.
16 Yuleno (#) Dec 23rd, 2011 - 05:27 pm Report abuse
Returning it to Palestine. Well that would simply lead to the Jewish territories fighting for independence and we (they) are back to square one.
So that would be wrong you think.The whole area was drawn up by Europe and it could be drawn up again.But that would be unthinkable I suppose.Just as it should it should have been then.But that also means it was wrong and still is.Religion is not the problem,it's discrimination and it's imposition that's the problem.
Also,I think you are confusing the state of Israel,a political concept,and israel a geographical one.It's the state that Iran and others want to remove.Not the people and not the land.
17 ChrisR (#) Dec 23rd, 2011 - 08:44 pm Report abuse
16 Yuleno
“It's the state that Iran and others want to remove.Not the people and not the land.”
If you really believe this, how are non-believers (the Jews) possibly going to exist in an Arab State which replaces Israel when the destested muslimists are going to murder everyone who is not a muslim? They would do it in a heartbeat, like they want to do it all round the world, even in LATAM when they get round to it.

Or are you just being disengenuous? I will not say lying as you are a Catholic and even though I am an Atheist I respect your rights (unlike Muslim extremists) at this time of the year.
18 Forgetit87 (#) Dec 23rd, 2011 - 09:13 pm Report abuse
No thought, only slogans - Chrissy isn't worth debating with.
19 Yuleno (#) Dec 24th, 2011 - 12:00 am Report abuse
ChrisR-Once again you don't make sense.
It's not the “muslimist” that are making any trouble in the area.In fact it's not even the Jews.Its foreign elements,which are not involved for religious reasons,but have a different reason for supporting a small religious group who could not sustain themselves without support from outside
You being an atheist has no effect on anything other than making you feel superior to others.You can be atheist but it does not affect me in any way,neither does it impress me,or give you any status.If you got some sense it might have an effect.
20 ChrisR (#) Dec 24th, 2011 - 11:07 am Report abuse
19 Yuleno
Thank you for the compliments!

I had thought that you were well read and researched before you posted: have you not seen that there is a muslim fundamentalist push by killing Christians (because they a re non-believers) in your much love Arab countries?

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/8973118/How-can-we-remain-silent-while-Christians-are-being-persecuted.html

How, as Catholic, can you condone this action?

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