Falklands vessels can re-flag and operate in Mercosur ports, says Hague
Ships from the Falkland Islands that are barred from ports in Argentina and other Mercosur trade bloc countries can re-flag as British ships at any time to avoid the ban, British Foreign Secretary William Hague told reporters in Rio de Janeiro on Thursday.
There is no legal barrier to ships registered in Stanley, Falkland Islands, from sailing under the British flag rather than the flag of the Falklands, a largely self-governing British Overseas Territory in the South Atlantic, Hague said.
Argentina claims sovereignty over the Falkland Islands. A military government invaded the Islands in 1982 only to be expelled after a two-month war with Britain. The defeat was followed by the collapse of the military government helping speed the return of democracy and civilian rule in Argentina.
Last month, Argentina convinced its partners in the Mercosur trade bloc - Brazil, Paraguay, Uruguay, as well as associate member Chile - to ban Falkland Islands-flagged vessels from entering their ports.
“It is clear that ships flying the British flag should have access to ports in South America as they would in any other part of the world” Hague said on a visit to Brazil.
Ships flying the British flag have reciprocal port entry rights under the United Nations Convention of the Law of the Sea that are also granted to Mercosur countries, he said.
The Falkland Islands' ensign has a British Union Jack on a blue field with the Falkland Islands coat of arms.
”Argentina has tried to increase tension (with this ban),“ Hague said. ”All they will get is increased tension.”
When asked if the ability of Falkland Islands ships to re-flag as British ships made the ban meaningless, Hague nodded yes.
Hague discussed the Falklands issue in Brazil's capital of Brasilia on Wednesday but the Brazilian government said it backed Argentina in the sovereignty dispute and would apply the shipping ban.
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So whats your next move Argentina? Stopping the Lan flights will have no effect on the islanders but will simply stop argentines visiting the islands. So banning Lan would be like shooting yourself in the foot. It would appear the only course of action you have is to carry on with nothing but verbal outbursts, or if your really stupid you could attempt another invasion, though we all know the only real reason why you ruled out military action, is simply because you do not have the military assets or equipment to take the islands let alone hang on to them.
Larf?..... I'll say I larfed......and larfed and larfed......
Aww, look at the little boy resorting to petty insults because he has no valid arguments :-))
Please enlighten us. Which are these countries outside of Latin America that do not recognise the FI flag?
It is no different to giving your child a sweet when it is having a major tantrum to stop in embarrassing everyone around it. Even Brazil finds Argentina ' a problem' to be managed. Chile has warned Argentina not to ask for anything more than meaningless gestures as it will not comply.
Long Live the Falklands.
I am tired of this dispute between these two governments. The only way out of this is to forget our differences, live in peace and be friends!!
I may sound utopic or perhaps stup*d, but, what about killing people for a piece of land?? That's worst!!!
That is all the Falklanders want is to live in peace and get on with there Life!!
Your assumption, not mine.
More ignorance from rabid nationalist Argies. The Falklands have had their own ships' register since 1861. So for 150 odd years Argentina has accepted FI flagged vessels as legal, but now all of a sudden they are not... I thought Argies were slow at getting around to things, but that really takes the cake. Oh, and show us which countries other than Mercosur have banned FI flagged vessels? So much for “the whole world”.
You peronistas make me laugh!
Would you Britons kindly explain me (us) what is the difference between a British Overseas Territory and a British Colonial Enclave? Thank you.
That's an easy one. A British Overseas Territory is what we are, and the rest is a bunch of meaningless words that you made up.
Hague is really amazing how that man can lie so blatantly about the status of the islands.....
According to the UN Malvinas Islands is a Non-Self-Governing Territory, ergo a COLONY.
..in the concert of civilized nations.....this statments are simply incredible to believe from Mr Hague, (top officer in FCO)
www.un.org/en/decolonization/nonselfgovterritories.shtml
If he says we are largely self- governing then we are. Not for you (or the UN) to decide old chap.
It exposes public opinions over relationships Uruguay-Argentina
and yes....is important what UN say in this civlized world.......sorry you guys think different...aarrrggggghhh
www.fco.gov.uk/en/about-us/our-ministers/william-hague
I don't see how banning vessels and flights are breaking any law. Its your law and no one else, because for us your laws worth shit.
If other countries want to join, that's good, if not, they can do whatever they please as the claim will continue.
The fact is that the British flag flies over the Falkland Islands and will contininue to do so (whthether you like it or not), as along as this Islanders wish it.
You, on the other hand, have nothing but a few token gestures from your neighbours who just want you to shut up and leave them alone.
The whole flag stunt is meaningless and makes you look stupid to the rest of the world. What is really sad is that you have no idea just how stupid it makes you look.
There is no place for Argentinian neo-colonialism and imperialist expansion in the 21st century.
For instance, why not flying the flag of the “Independent Republic of Miranda,” instead?
Philippe
By the way, how is that fat slug in the Casa Rosada? Doesn't she know that a “president” is supposed to be a man? Not a prostitute/slag/whore? (I'll bet she does some benders for the right people, doesn't she?)
Too bad, they still don't apply here.
www.un.org/en/events/nonselfgoverning/nonselfgoverning.shtml
For the Latin American states, it doesnt matters if those ships use the british flag becouse the union jack is recognized in the UN as a member state, a sovereign state, but not the Malvinas flag. For Uruguayan or Brazilian government it doesnt matters if the ships goes to Malvinas or comes from britain as long as they use a recognized flag.
Conqueror, too many insult you use. It is obvious that you give a damn about the UN becouse it doesnt suits you. But to legitimate a war your government is the first one to go crying there saying that a nation have weapons of mass destruction. In Iraq thats exactly what happened, in Lybia, the UN authorized to protect the civilians and your government made a war with it killing more civilians than ghadafi.
About my president, well you can describe her all you like but we know your polititians and they are not a price either. The corrupt Thatcher and son, the british parliament, the Useless and good for nothing Cameron, etc...
Cheers.
Bennies are, in my view, mesmerised by an English past which is no more (better, I'd however agree, that current Argentine present), and will never be back, save as in the form of cannon and flying princes.
And, by the way, you never answered my question. To this end, you may substitute 'British Colonial Enclave' for the more clear 'British Colony'albeit I'd prefer 'English Colony' (I'm aware that not all British are English. The latter know what cricket is).
Your turn.
Cheers!
Sounds like you support terrorists and oppressors of of the middle east did you serve under Gaddafi or Saddam Hussain???
The Falklands are a British Overseas Territory by choice! something which argentina does not believe in!!!!
Long Live the Falklands.
back to the drawing board then ?
NEXT
Today:
The Governor has NO vote on any affair in the Executive nor legilsative - he still chairs the Executive but the only votes are held by elected Members. He no longer presides of the legislature - we have a “Speaker” - like many Commonwealth Countries and even UK!
Our Elected members have 100% voting control over all Taxation, Laws, etc and Budgets,Immigration etc.
EG if Aerolineas wants to fly here - it will have to apply for permits etc from (and thus recognise the existence of) the Falkland Islands Govt Dept of Civil Aviation- London could not give it anything!
That is wht OUR Plannning Dept was approached and after some changes - gave permission for your Families Assoc to build the memorial you have at Darwin cemetery - UK had Nothing to do with it.
Our Govt controls and Licences all offshore economic activity and all and any future fish or oil revenue will come to the Islands Govt and NOT to UK.
The only areas where the UK has control and liability are Foreign Affairs and Defence.
Should we seek Independence - it would be granted and we would then take over these 2 as well - for about 48hrs until Arg forces landed again
and took over - then of course we would indeed be a COLONY under a COLONIAL POWER!
That is why EUROPE lists us as a an Internal Self Governing British Territory. Because we are!
If Argentina and the UK break diplomatic ties, then yes, Argentina can prohibit Union Jack vessels from it's ports with no legal recourse for the UK. International pressure would be meanliness since it is within the law, national sovereingty and self-determination in terms of self-defense trump “laws of the sea”. And I doubt many would care anyway.
As per Argentina not having a proper Armed Forces...well...anyone knows that it doesn't take very long to go and get the proper equipment if it really was needed. Anyways, this is all nonsense...what we will see sooner or later is Argentina and England finally talking, transfering the islands to the Argies, and putting an end to this unnecessary burden.
If England really wants to start operating in Latin America, Argentina probably is the best country to start with, as they are the most culturally close to the Europeans not to mention the variety of resources that this country owns...Too bad that England can't see the woods because one tree is standing in front of its eyes...
“As per Argentina not having a proper Armed Forces...well...anyone knows that it doesn't take very long to go and get the proper equipment if it really was needed. ” Again wrong. First you need the money, then you need a supplier with amble stocks willing to sell them to you. Argentina has neither in this case and by the time they did get enough the islands would have been reinforced.
It is argentina that can not see the woods because of the trees. The islands were never theirs and never will be, simple as that.
Confidence born of ignorance.
Nobody really cares as nothing will happen,
I no that no one cares because nothing will happen. The Islands will still remain British :')
Not a monkey, but an ignorant chav you might be. :-)
As for the phrase, its perfectly well put, not my problem that you have problem with reading comprehension. Perhaps your government should spend more in education. xD
“Wrong not all south american countries only Mercoser Countries, look at mexcio or French Guiana, which is an overseas region of France, as examples of South American Nations that have not expressed support of argentinas claim nor have they banned ships with falklands flags...”
WRONG...First of all Mexico is NOT a South American country (last time I checked...) , second French Guiana is NOT a country at all...so obviously that territory has no opinion whatsoever about the Malvinas/Falkland issue...Anyways, do you really think that Mexico would not support Argentina and support England insteadd?...mmm, I seriously doubt that, but oh well, I don't know for sure what Mexico's position about this issue is, so...I won't argue too much.
“...In fact the Falklands islands best opition would be do the same as french Guiana and become an overseas region of UK, effectively making the falklands an County that belongs to the UK just like Essex or North Yorkshire is a county of the UK. Off course that would mean the islands name being changed to BRISTISH Falkland islands. Same for south georgia and sandwich islands.”
WRONG AGAIN. England could say and do uniterally whatever it wants, still nothing would change for the rest of the world (namely UN, Latam, US, etc, etc...) who almost uninamously is calling on England to sit down and talk with Argentina about this issue, so go ahead and make the “changes” you think you should.
As per the rest of the non-sense you are saying...well, England left the islands , they became Spanish and later Argentine (i'm running out of space...otherwise I'd refresh your memory a bit more about this).
Argentina doesn't have money to purchase equipment..., I wouldn't be so sure about that, and as per finding a willing supplier...mmm...China, Russia just to name two of them, sure would be more than happy to take the spot.
Just face it buddy, England is running out of excuses and time!
And that one large tree, stolen from its family and roots, was savagely cut up
And altered into a horrific large cabinet dressing table,
And the carrier of this large item
[Argentina of course ]
.
. I like the fact you have resolved to petty insults to argue you point, which is hardly effective.''
-Looks like someone's feelings got hurt. :-)
Its okay to admit that you were wron
-Wrong? I'm correct.
. The phrase did nothing to argue my point, but was rather a mere diversion to actually addressing what i have to say.
-It was perfectly well put. Period.
i wont make fun of you, its not your fault you are like what you are, must be the water down where you are......
-Indeed indeed. Not my fault that you are a poor uneducated prick. Must the weather and the humidity of that place that damage your brain, monkey.
'intellect is invisible to the man who has none'
I fear that this applies to you. Correct ? How, argue my point ? Ignoring it, doesn't make it wrong, or make you correct. Counter the point. I would hardly describe the English weather as humid.....And i don't think that there is any evidence to suggest that humidity affects the human brain, unless you can link me a journal or paper stating so ?
How could senile, retired invaders who desire the wrong tolerate a flag which Desires the Right?
Philippe
The windswept islands you mention were severally discovered, severally claimed for and severally occupied, at least as from the 15th century.
Their first inhabitants were however the penguins, seabirds, gulls and waterfowl, seals and other pinnipeds, and the now extinct Fk foxes.
The current touchstone is of course oil (fishing and tourism though good now largely behind), whose deposits are badly needed by the various world rulers who will somehow set hand on them regardless who the owner may be and despite what reasons are given to defend its ownership by those who say they own it, say, patriotism, first discoverer, first claimer, first ocuppant, ultima ratio regum, local decision, &c.
Residents protection is more needed now that oil had been struck, and not from us neighbours but rather from the resilient capitalist tigers that have been roaming around since.
Cheers!
'intellect is invisible to the man who has none'
Perhaps that applies to you, instead of me.. ^^
That doesn't work here and it has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
As for the water causing damages you don't have any proof neither, dumbass!
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