Sean Penn should return his Malibu estate to the Mexicans
By Dr Tim Stanley - During his recent tour of Argentina and Uruguay as UN ambassador at large for Haiti made some unfortunate statements regarding the Falklands/Malvinas diplomatic dispute arguing that “It would be nothing short of bullying, to not sit down and diplomatically negotiate a fair sharing of any resources discovered between Argentina and the United Kingdom”.
Likewise he described as unthinkable that “the United Kingdom made a conscious decision to deploy a Prince within the military to the Malvinas”.
In Buenos Aires Penn made headlines when he called Britain’s presence in the Falklands “colonialist, ludicrous and archaic”.
His remarks did not go unnoticed and one of those comments is from Dr Tim Stanley, a historian of the United States. His biography of Pat Buchanan is out now. His personal website is www.timothystanclye.co.uk and on Twitter @timothy_stanley
The piece was originally published in The Telegraph.
I would like to make a statement about the growing crisis in the Americas. It’s time for justice. It’s time for liberty. It’s time to end the ludicrous and archaic commitment to colonialist ideology. It’s time Sean Penn handed his Malibu estate back to the Mexicans.
Sean Penn pretends to be a friend of the developing world, but really he is not. To be fair, his recent call for the Falkland Islands to be returned to Argentina was an admirable strike against capitalist imperialism. Moreover, I and the entire North Korean press corps cheered him on when he flew to Iraq to parley with Saddam Hussein, or when he spoke about Hugo Chavez in such glowing terms. But there have always been hints that his sympathy isn’t really with the workers at all. Aside from that time that he spent 32 days in prison for hitting an extra, his net worth of an estimated 150 million dollars is a bit of a giveaway.
His continued occupation of Malibu is an unacceptable mockery of national self-determination. The Mexicans owned that stretch of real estate well into the early 19th century and it was stolen by the Americans in a naked act of imperialist aggression. America’s claim over Malibu is tenuous and rooted in patriarchy. Sean Penn’s house is a mocking reminder of that brute chauvinism, with its high white walls and spacious interiors. Its swimming pool is an insult to the honor of the Mexican people.
Now, I know that some will say that the Mexicans never actually lived on Sean Penn’s estate. But how many of them have worked there? Think of the maids, the cleaners, the butlers, the pool boys, the cooks, the gardeners. Think of the sweat that has dripped pouring Martinis, or the blood that was spilt pruning the roses. Truly, Sean Penn’s estate is part of Aztlan.
If diplomatic discussions break down, who could blame Mexico for resorting to military action to reclaim Mr Penn’s estate? Not I. Some might say that it would be an act without legal sanction or genuine historical cause. But that’s not the point. The people of Mexico want Sean Penn’s estate, so they should have it. Because stealing stuff from the rightful owners is the only way to combat colonialism.
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You really couldn't make it up!
www.expatdailynewslatinamerica.com/2012/02/sean-penn-comes-to-argentina.html#more
I notice the news regarding the potential Falklands oil bonanza has got through to the BA Herald.Should be a few more verbal fireworks tomorrow.
I came across an old series of Teletubbies and I swear that Tinky Winky is the spitting image of old Hector Timerman.
California was purchased from the Mexicans by the USA.
The Falklands/Malvinas issue is totally different issue. There is only on reason the British government is hiding behind that arguement of let the falklanders decide their future. They know damn well the Falklanders needs their security (UK taxpayers) while the UK government is eying the oil (if there is enough oil to make money) plus it's ego..
no differnce just formal anti british,
you can turn it in anyway you choose, but argentina has no claim on them and she knows it,
and she will never get them either, despite all the machoism from argentina,
Your comment shows a complete lack of historical knowledge. Typical of an Argie Bargie.
California and new Mexico were objectives of the Mexico-American War of 1846-1848.
I'm not Argentine. Second, do your homework. As part of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, which ended the Mexico-U.S. war in 1848, the U.S. “bought” much of the western U.S. for $15 million - or a bit more than $200 million in CURRENT US dollars. The dollar was more worth in that time.
Third, this subject has NOTHING to do with the Malvinas/Falklands and is just a desperate blog Dr. Tim Stanley..similar like the tea drinking club figure who used the Alaska -Canada subject.
And that simple process of trolling entire countries has earned him £150 mil and he gets wined and dined by all the usual suspects.
Credit where credit is due, but I still don't listen to a word he says.
and she will never get them either, despite all the machoism from argentina, ”
You have your proganda, your way who to believe who really owns the falklands/malvinas, and they, Argentines have their own propaganda. You both have something in common...using the falklands/malvinas from the real issues at home.
They are still fuming after Sean Penn comments, some Rockhopper investors posted his facebook account to place hates comments on it, loosers.
“The world today is not going to tolerate any kind of ludicrous and archaic commitment to colonialist ideology.”
Rightfully so.
It wasn't made by argentina or spanish tv, it was made by bbc.
But I'm sure the nationalistic british fanatic will still in complete deniel of the true. For them this is a lie and a manipulation of the marxist press.
I'm sure GreekYoghurt will keep remain me of all the atrocities we did to the aboriginal in my country and I have a long list of atrocities commited by the British around the world. But for the moment just watch this documentary.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRyl5b_qLxY
I see the world today won't be tolerating Argentina's ludicrous and archaic commitment to trying to push their colonialist ideology through sovereignty talks then.
No
You wrote: “In 1833 when we arrived, Argentina didn't exist”
Provincias Unidas del Río de la Plata, nowadays Argentina independent since 1816.
Wrong again, you must be English.
The book The last Colonies by Robert Aldrich and John Connell page 200
1833 ' The Brithish commander raise the Union Jack, claimed possession of the islands and expelled the Argentinians.
”The Falklands officially became a Crown colony in 1840, a governor and a few Scotsmen arrived to establish a British pastoral settlement. Argentina hotly disputed the Brithish takeover, and Buenos Aires made continual diplomatic representations over the next 150 years to recover the islands”
And you useless forum brits should do something more useful for the2,7 million unemployed uk's,the 1 trillion pounds public debt and the 9 trillion pounds foreign debt..
What a bunch of loser..My GOd.
uk was selling weapon to the ”brutal junta'days before the recuperation of MAlvinas. and were spending NO MONEY in MAlvinas.The Airport,the 3 wekly fligth,the propane for heating in MAlvinas,the hospital and free university were paid off by Argentina.Now the conservative crooks,they made some money using the people tax payers,they DO NOT SELL WEAPONS to Argentina,tehy spent 3 billion pounds for the MAlvinas campaign,the invested 1 billion pounds in building the airport and the infraestructure in MAlvinas.They spends 300 millions for maintenance/year,and the Malvinenses get 40 million(and comming down revenues,from fish,now that Argentina Catch theI llex Argentinus at the source(the River Plate)..
HOW STUPID SOMEBODY CAN BE..MY GOD!
THE BRITS are IDIOTS to THE CUBE!!
P.S.: Too many pro-kelper editorials. Oh! I forgot, there are some banners on the right side of my monitor which says “Falkland Islands Holidays” and “Malvina House Hotel”, I mean, Media follows money! :-)
Provincias Unidas del Río de la Plata wasn't isn't the same as Argentina. It was a precursor to Argentina with significantly different boundaries, including Uruguay.
The fact is, there was a big placard telling you who owned it, and you definitely read the placard because you subsequently stole it. Face facts, you were squatters.
I follow your posts with great anticpation. The are either factual, funny or intersting. There are a few people on here that make random silly comments ( sadly myself included) I wish I had the depth of knowledge and volcabulary you have to voice a reasonable argument. However; while you are on here I don't think I need to. It makes me feel a little sad at times as you write in a way what I am thinking.
Keep up the good work.
You, as much as I, deserve a pat on the back.
If they then wish to remain british then so be it. What ever comes from the recent spat it should always be about what is best for the people stuck in the middle, the Falkland islanders. Even though I know the big bad world does not work like that it is only my opinion which probably means little to anyone.
I do believe that Britain is better for the islands. I don't like the way the current Argentinian government works, its lie's, and the way it protrays itself to international community. At least with Britain there seems to be more security (no talking about military security here) with regards to the best interests of the islanders both politically and economically.
I know that there is going to be some one who disagrees with what I have written above and I ask one thing. If you disagree please enlighten me with your arguement sensibly. If you can prove me wrong please do it. I am open to debates to learn other view points and then to furthur consiladate my own.
The same also applies to what I belive of Gibraltar and Spain. The last two referendums in Gibraltar showed that 98%+ wanted to be part of the UK and not Spain. If one day, the people of Gibraltar chose Spain, then I respect that, but at the moment they don't.
When somebody tries to say that the UK is in a worse economic position than Argetina, somebody has to and explain that they obviously have their figures wrong. I wasn't trying to say who was the better country and apologise if it appeared like that, I was just trying to state that the UK is financially stronger than @Malvinero1 was trying to make out.
The UK et al. is basically a big family party. Nothing is constant in this world, and if someone (Scotland) doesn't want to be a part of the family or party, then it'll be a bit sad, but no one would stop them from leaving. It's better that they go somewhere else than sit there moaning about how sh!t it is (Scotland), ruining all the fun. Ireland chose to leave the party and now they're at Germany's fetish party as a gimp and having a pretty terrible time. I'm not terribly upset about that either.
Would be more than happy for Scotland to go if they wish, just like anyone else. What I don't like is other countries and their bullying tactics interfering.
You are competely wrong yet again.
The USA went to war with Mexico & conquered California, as well as Arizona etc.
They may have paid them, idiot, but the Mexicans had no say in the deal.
Get your facts right before you mouth off you clogg-hopping fool.
@19Marcos,
The trespassing Argentine garrison was ejected(with their flag)& rightly so.
They were trying to steal our land.
@23GreekYoghurt,
They still are Squatters & descendants of murderers, especially in Patagonia.
It will be just like watching a truly scottish car crash.
Mercopress is a source of pure gold. If you don't like pure gold, then I guess you can go elsewhere and look for unpure gold.
@21 Malvinero1 - Argentina's indignation about the Falklands is not based on reality but a political tool to distract the gullible populace from home issues that they cannot resolve. 22% inflation! Really? And you say we have problems! People in glass houses...
Hopefully one day the Falklands will be able to fend off Argentina for themselves and they will be an independant nation but they will remember how us Brits helped them fight off the aggressors!
#34 Lame
Stop it Oscar I am bereft of ribs
news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16171689
Learn!
www.hellomagazine.com/imagenes/news-in-pics/2007/05/30/tony-blair-gaddafi-pic.jpg
2.bp.blogspot.com/_7JheMiUWj_k/TUkkM_mwDSI/AAAAAAAAAGY/HQXfGbGQiGA/s1600/pinochet-thatcher-09.jpg
p.s. I don't watch fox news, before any of you start.
@13 Erm, no. Argies have propaganda, we have history. Documented history.
@15 And what is the argie approach? Britain had been on the Islands since 1690. In 1828, the United Provinces rebel government granted one Luis Vernet East Falkland provided he could set up a COLONY within 3 years. Unfortunately, Vernet had to obtain British permission before he could go to the Islands to set up his (ostensible) commercial venture. When Britain found out about the UP action, they protested the action on sovereign British territory. Seems argieland has a long history of sneaky underhand actions. Vernet was, of course, arrested by the United States for piracy and taken to Montevideo for trial. The next sneaky underhand action by argies was the commissioning of Major Esteban Mestivier to set up a penal COLONY in November 1832. Mestivier was murdered by his own men. Lieutenant Colonel José María Pinedo had just about restored order when Britain returned on 20 December 1832. So argieland's only actions have been aimed at colonisation. Now who's “ludicrous and archaic commitment to colonialist ideology.” are we talking about? Besides, in 1850, Britain and Argentina sign the “Convention between Great Britain and the Argentine Confederation, for the Settlement of existing Differences and the re-establishment of Friendship”. The Falkland Islands are not mentioned. So it couldn't have been an outstanding difference. Argieland says nothing else until 1884. Leaving aside 1982, argieland's last ”official” presence on the Islands was colonial. And so it is argieland with a ludicrous and archaic commitment to colonialism.
So you can imagine that it's quite easy for these resolutions to be ignored, especially in the Committees and Talks. If you just look at the countries engaged with the Special Committee on Decolonisation, it's basically a bunch of greedy third world countries that are willing to colonise anything near them in a heartbeat. The Religious Tolerance Committee is sponsored by the home of religious tolerance, Saudi 'Kill the Kaffir' Arabia.
Bearing all this in mind, the UN is about as useful as a chocolate shoe. However the ICJ exists in order to legally resolve conflicts between states. Countries signed up to the ICJ are partially bound to follow it's rulings, especially if they are sat on its benches (UK, USA). The last thing the Argentinians want an objective legal ruling on this situation, based upon historical facts, because most of what they teach in their schools is party to historical revisionism.
Basically, a final judgement binding Argentina to respect the self determination of the Falkland Islanders would rob the Argentinian Ministry of Truth of an important nationalistic propaganda tool that they can use to align the masses to their political will. Joining Kerchnerism with Malvinarism, allows them to unify the people behind Kerchnerism and call anyone who disagrees a national traitor or anti-malvinasist.
It's just textbook orwellian-goebellian methodology, based on fallacious logic used by authoritarian governments to control the unthinking masses. Logically, [you don't like FCK] but [FCK likes Malvinas] hence [you don't like Malvinas] (i.e. traitor).
Hitler used it with the Jews.
Security Council resolutions are legally binding and ignoring them can lead to anything from sanctions to a cruise missile bouncing off your head.
The article at #5 is all over the place, for one thing its not Cristina but the Haitian government that wants Haiti to have an army; if the Argentines can be part of that process with their own history of overcoming human rights abusers then thats a good thing and maybe why Penn turned to them.
Finally Sean Penn only went to North Korea IN A FICTIONAL PUPPET MOVIE, you do know that guys. And the only thing I can find about wife beating on google is some consensual spanking with Madonna, of the kind I suppose #32 was imagining my own Alex Salmond getting from the Germans =)
I wonder what it is about Kirchnerism that draws you towards it so.
(And btw, I myself think it was very noble of him to visit Iraq and declare his support for the country at the moment that he did that -- at least, more noble than invading Iraq, punishing its population, for what turned out to be false excuses. But please, don't let silly things such as truth and morality stand on your way, Dr. Stanley -- keep bad-mouthing Mr. Penn in this virile, mature fashion of yours.)
He has in the past upset many Americans with his opinions,
You either take it with a pinch of salt, or not,
He wont be the first or last, so don’t let it worry you .
Why do Argies always harp on abt dates,
How much time can one go back and forth?
Surely the only fact irrelevant today in a court of law, would be possession, and occupation,
The Falklands have now been inhabited for over 150 years by the British , they have been administered and run for over 150 years, and what the British choose to do with them,
And what the islanders do for them selves is entirely up to them, and has nothing to do with any other country in the world,
No court would hand over the islands to another, in this day and age,
Democracy has been fought for and now widely accepted; Argentina as with most countries signed these charters of rights,
And thus must comply with them, the people today have the freedom to choose who governs them,
Thus Argentina should remove the offending article from her constitution, and get on with there own country, and leave the Falklands alone, then we can all have peace,,
For peace cannot rein forever, just a thought.
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And a very good thought, too, briton.
That sounds like you Forgetit
Oh I forgot argentina does!
What a LOOSER!!!!!!
Long Live the Falklands.
“Later in the marriage, Penn was charged with felony domestic assault, a charge for which he pleaded to a misdemeanor.” Understanding the U.S. judicial system, this is like being charged with murder but agreeing to plead guilty to grievous bodily harm.
@50 “Noble”? Penn wouldn't understand “noble”. If he did he wouldn't be supporting 40 million cowardly argies against 3,000 Falkland Islanders. He might be able to do “noble” if it was in the script and someone explained to him what expression he was supposed to adopt. Oh yes, Mr Penn is a very “noble” man. He has founded a “tent camp” in Haiti. But there are still over a million people without shelter and 3,333 have died since the hurricane. And how long has he been an “ambassador” for Haiti? 18 days. I see he also “nobly” went to get physically involved in rescuing people after Hurricane Katrina. And employed a photographer so no-one would miss his “noble” efforts. I can just imagine it, “No, Sean, the light wasn't quite right. Shove her back under the building and then drag her out again. If I position myself right, I can get a good picture of her screaming from the pain of her broken ribs and an even better one as you catch her broken legs against the foundations. Try not to take too long, I'm running out of film.”
@54 It's “LOSER”, not looser. If you let your belt out a couple of notches, that's “looser”.
Well I support all the progressive governments of Latin America, all of which have come to power through great struggles from below for democracy and social justice. I support Kirchnerism as the political consequence of the great struggles against the greedy elites who wrecked the country in 2001. And because it has worked so well, leading to record growth and inclusive policies, proving that countries don't have to obey the IMF (and suffer) when they can defy it (and prosper). A very relevant message for Europe at the moment =)
And lets face it, if she was on your side you wouldn't be clutching at straws to pretend that Cristina is ugly or an evil bitch or whatever; she's really the most compelling world leader going at the moment, beautiful, eloquent, strong and progressive on the side of the people. Happy birthday Queen Cristina, wishing you many happy returns and many re-elections =)
By greedy elites do you mean Kirchner and her cabal? Do you mean the cult of celebrity surrounding Everlasting Leader Nestor and his Mao-esque Mausoleum (www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2011/10/29/2003516985)? Do you mean how she won't disclose her income?
Given that you get offended by the fact you're a Nazi, you'll be pleased to know his Hitler Youth group, La Campora, still sing songs about his greatness and his authoritarian practices.
You're 100% right though. Countries like Argentina and North Korea don't have to obey the IMF and suffer. They just ignore the IMF, print money like it's news and then suffer.
North Korea and Argentina are very similar. They both espouse economic isolationism and expansionism.
To be honest, I don't know which is worse, the fact you're too weak to live under Kirchnerism or the fact that you support it and don't understand what it means.
CFK is your leader not ours,
Cameron is our leader, and not yours,
You all love CFK we don’t all like Cameron,
Simple really,
But it still does not alter the fact, that what Argentina is doing, is illegal and wrong, and immoral
Devious and underhanded, [are they not ]
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I wonder why! =)
Anyway Cristina is more my spiritual leader than Cameron...
Some are more equal than others there, I guess.
All I'm saying is that, socialist revolutions where the political class line their own pockets, like in China, North Korea, Venezuela and Argentina are funny. I find it particularly funny when the Kirchners get rich through politicized deals and I find it funny when Hugo's daughter is waving money in front of her fact. It just makes the widespread poverty bite that little bit harder.
All argie bloggers have to answer, is just one question to them selves,
Do they believe that people have the right to decide who governs them?
Yes or know, it’s that simple.
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Anyone regarding a mere mortal - a member of the rich elite - as a spiritual leader should visit the country, see the poverty, meet the people and see the reality of CFKC's policies. It is not at all the same as her frothy, rambling speeches telling everyone what they want to hear. “Do we all love kittens in a basket? Then vote for me, the widow woman, because I will give you kittens in a basket”. Maybe an actor or popstar would be more appropriate for fan worship?
There is something else very relevent to be considered. Most Argentines know she lies continually and has mental health problems. But being a liar and bi-polar is no impediment to leadership in Argentina. There are a lot of Argentines who have no hope of a better life but she tells them it is better with her and they want to believe her. The rest seem to believe there is no real oppostion or that all Argentine politicians are corrupt, so what is the difference.
@67 in 1982 you invaded the Falkland Islands, the UN Security Council Ruling 502 enacted Article 51 of the UN Charter allowing a nation to act in SELF DEFENCE. You cannot self defend someone else's. But rest assured, do it again, and we will self defend again. ... and remember, it's hard to watch Kirchner-TV with no power stations.
I like many such people - Sean Penn is one of them =) - but as a political activist myself none compare to Cristina as an inspiration that politics doesn't have to be so dire as it currently is in my own country. And I can't think of a prettier popstar or actress either =)
“her frothy, rambling speeches telling everyone what they want to hear. “Do we all love kittens in a basket? Then vote for me, the widow woman, because I will give you kittens in a basket”.”
Is this the kind of speech you mean: ”Inclusión es que te acostás en tu casa y sabés que aunque llueva no te vas a inundar; inclusión es tener una nueva escuela; inclusión es tener televisión; inclusión es tener el polideportivo; inclusión es tener trabajo.
(Inclusion is that you acostás in your House and know that even if it rains you will not flood; inclusion is to have a new school; inclusion is to have TV; inclusion is to have the Sports Centre; inclusion is to have working.)”? You see these things might not matter so much to you as a rich British expat, but to the poor masses they're actually quite important!
Finally I myself know some bipolar people and know that they couldn't run a country. Not that they couldn't be elected here but in weirdo argieland thats different for some reason, just that they couldn't cope, couldn't even do as competently as Cameron let alone the bravura performance of CFK in running a state and leading a people. Then again they say Cromwell was bipolar and he was one of the best leaders Britain has had, so maybe its doesn't matter if she is =)
But more seriously this “mental health problems” canard was just another lie by the oligarchy, stoke by Mrs Clinton (who of course has reason to envy Mrs Kirchner's success), one disgracefully hyped when Cristina had every reason to be mentally fragile after her sudden shocking bereavement, and one resoundingly answered by the people at the last election
You've lost me with your reasoning.
Who are you today?
California was given to US by Mexico by a treaty, as Hong Kong back to China , DIego Garcia Is,.... but in HK , UK has asked to their people about self-determination???? no... that is hypocrisy when try to impose the self-det in our Malvinas, where don´t apply and all the World dont support.......
And she will lead you up the garden path and leave you .
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