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Cristina Fernandez meets Piñera next week: Falklands air link in the agenda

Wednesday, March 7th 2012 - 17:23 UTC
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Argentine president Cristina Fernandez is scheduled to travel to Chile next week to meet with her peer Sebastian Piñera and the Falklands issue expected to outstand in the bilateral agenda, particularly air links with the Islands. Read full article

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  • GreekYoghurt

    Hi Mr South African Airlines,

    Can we have an airlink to you instead? It's probably going to be just about as expensive and it takes about 1/3 of the time, all in all.

    Thanks,

    R. Mcdonald, Falklands.

    P.S. Do you think watching Argentina sodomising it's neighbours into supporting it's nonsense is quite fun to watch too?

    Mar 07th, 2012 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    This stupid bitch is getting completely out of control and it is going to lead to another confrontation and another defeat of Argentina.

    Mar 07th, 2012 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ynsere

    Falkland Islanders: Don't be taken in by Argentine promises or handouts. They are just trying to make you dependent on Argentina, and will renege on them at any time. They've done it to Uruguay many times.

    Mar 07th, 2012 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    It does seem strange that she believes she can just demand flights from Argentina rather than Chile to a BOT. Is Dauntless powerful enough to tow the islands closer to South Africa?

    Mar 07th, 2012 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • googer62

    Been there, seen it, done it and have got the T shirt (but not the white card as I never availed myself of their “wondrous service” last time) to prove it. It wont be happening again. End of.

    Mar 07th, 2012 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    Does anyone else think this is just like the 1978 version of Battlestar Galactica with Face out of the A-team? Galactica is clearly the Falklands, just trying to get on it's way without anyone destroying it. The Cylons are Argentina, with their warmongering and trying to destroy all the humans in the Falklands. KFC is clearly the lizard-like Imperious Leader of the Cylons (http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Imperious_Leader) and Baltar is that James Peck.

    The only problem is that the Argentinians are run by their pseudo-italiano mafia and the cylons don't talk about fishing rights all the time.

    Mar 07th, 2012 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mrlayback

    Ok ! a question If the president of Chile decides to speak honest to Cristina and refuse to take up her demands, What will be the outcome of his refusal to comply?

    Mar 07th, 2012 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Falklands are British

    7 She'll probably employ one of several ways she could force LAN to stop and then the Falklands will go through 3 to 6 months of slightly difficult disruption whilst awaiting for the alternative to LAN to start up. Once it starts, with more frequency than LAN, we will not have to put up with a stop in Argentina ever again and our commerce will grow at a more rapid pace than it already does. Bring it on! We can manage without everything one of our 3.5 weekly flights brings.

    Mar 07th, 2012 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    Anybody got any idea what CFK is going to use to twist Pinera's arm? She must think she's got something. Apart from a STD that is.

    Mar 07th, 2012 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Falklands are British

    9

    She could use any number of things. LAN do a shitload of business in Argentina. Do I need to go any further?

    Mar 07th, 2012 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @9,10 Yeh, I concur that she'll threaten them by saying LAN cannot land in Argentina. End of LAN flight... Hello, Charter flights to Africa. Then the Mafia-Ghoul will have to find some empty undelivered solidarity with African states.

    Mar 07th, 2012 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @10 They do but already she has cut some of their flights to the domestic airport. LAN is an amazingly successful airline and very profitable; they could and should expand elsewhere.

    Mar 07th, 2012 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    “This is a clear expression that the interest of Argentina is not to harm any community, but to defend our rights”, said President Cristina Fernandez.”

    Hmm, Mafiosa Ghoul insincerity shining through there.

    Mar 07th, 2012 - 08:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Cestrian

    @9

    She will relax the import restrictions on chilean goods in return for a cancellation of the LAN flight. That will probably be the leverage with all of the South American countries now complaining about it.

    The problem is that she still has the issue of having no money to contend with, which wont go away and will get worse if the import restrictions are lifted.

    She'll do a deal with them all and then backslide on it in some way.

    The problem for the chileans is that they egt on ok with the UK and of coruse there are 250 Chileans on the FI who wont be able to get home. Also no Argentine family will be able to go to the islands to see their war dead, so she is basically fucking absolutely everybody over and everyone seems to be letting her.

    there is no doubt that if the RG's ever got the FI they would use La Campora to physically intimidate the islanders into leaving “of their own free will”. This must be obvious to everyone now. The FI would be ethnically cleansed.

    all this “we'd respect the rights of the FI” is of course pure horseshit, they would be got rid of immediately to create a pure Argentine enclave. This really is like a Nazi regime.

    someone has to bring it down.

    Mar 07th, 2012 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    She's going to keep rocking the boat until it sinks.

    Confucious said, “The superior man [lady] is modest in his speech, but exceeds in his actions”. The Mafiosa Ghoul is clearly not a superior lady.

    Mar 07th, 2012 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • STRATEGICUS

    @ 14
    Look at the article in the current Buenos Aires Herald by Robert Fox 'Put the Islanders First'. It gives details of THE PLAN from the mid1960's. I am sure the current one is very similar.The Argies are capable of anything.

    India’s operation had taken place without condemnation from other countries leading some Argentines, especially naval officer Jorge Anaya, to believe a similar act, based on territorial integrity, could be carried out in the Falklands. This plan was originally conceived by then Captain Jorge Anaya, who, at the time of the Argentine invasion in 1982, had risen to the rank of admiral and was the ranking officer of the Argentine Navy and a member of the ruling junta.

    “The plan was simple. It included in sequential order a surprise landing on the islands, the removal of all of the inhabitants, their transport to Montevideo and their replacement with Argentine settlers. In a naive comparison with the 19th Century, the Argentines reasoned the British had taken similar actions in 1833!

    “There is speculation that the ruling Argentine junta, plagued by internal unrest, economic woes including inflation and a threatened labour strike, had planned to activate the plan sometime between July and October 1982. The unexpected sequence of events in March supposedly caused them to take advantage of this opportunity and launch their operation ahead of schedule.

    “This idea is denied by General Galtieri, the leader of the junta. He refused to admit any plan for invasion existed and rejected any idea that public discontent with his military regime prompted the invasion as a diversionary tactic.”

    I don’t know whether it is widely known on the islands that the invasion plan included “the removal of all of the inhabitants, their transport to Montevideo and their replacement with Argentine settlers,” but I do know that if the people who have a right, by birth, to the land they love are put first, there can be an end to the conflict over the islands that I will n

    Mar 07th, 2012 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin Woodhead

    lets think Argentina lasted 100 days on the island uk has defended them for 30 years and since argentina invaded the Islands have a similar place in the British mind as the mythical malvinas except we can and will defend them.
    after iraq and afgan a stand up fight is just what the doctor ordered.

    Mar 07th, 2012 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Cestrian

    @17

    I cant wait too see these tossers put in their place. They are a set of corrupt thugs and terrorists. Democracy my fucking arse.

    Its a vile regime.

    Mar 07th, 2012 - 10:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @19 Confucious said silence is the truest of friends that never betrays you. So it's better that we just stay silent in face of such a political travesty. She'll burn out soon enough.

    Mar 07th, 2012 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jerry

    This reminds me very much of the advice “Better to remain silent and thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.” She should have followed this advice.

    Mar 07th, 2012 - 11:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Nothing will be achieved by her on this trip ??
    But interestingly the British turn up after CFK, so whatever he agrees to, he will have to face mr Cameron, will he not,
    For if an embargo is inevitable, then Argentina, will suffer, and those who support her,
    And as Chile is on the list of future argentine acquisitions, he is faced with a 50/50. Choice
    Agree to her demands, and end up as a future colony of Argentina, [if she ever gets own little empire,]
    Or tell to shove off, and he will take his chances with the British,
    [p/s]
    I wonder if she is aware that RAF Euro fighters, have been going to chi lie every so often???
    Just a flying thought.
    .

    Mar 08th, 2012 - 12:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ernie4001

    Nothing else it´s gonna happen. CFK has no leverage over chilean govermment and also the nationals won´t let it happen. Actual argentine govermments are not able to twist the chilean one, since chilean economy grows faster also independent from Argentina (unlike Uruguay and Paraguay) and trade is favouring argentines (by 3 to 1 rate), so at the end they can loose more than they can win, besides the conection with the Pacific what makes account on many argentinian jobs (truckers, traders, etc.), so I guess CFK is not fool. And after all Piñera will defend his people in the FI despite who cares.

    Mar 08th, 2012 - 01:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Alfox

    CFK is probably taking measures against LAN. The LAN regional flights were banned from Aeroparque to benefit Aerolíneas and Austral. Cut the LAN service Rosario - Lima and has denied the airline a new frequency Buenos Aires - Miami. Obviously she doesn't like LAN flying domestic routes.
    Perhaps she will use the Punta Arenas - FAlklands flight to threaten the existence of LAN Argentina.

    Mar 08th, 2012 - 02:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    Erni4001
    Who told you that the Lan fly is in the CFK agenda? wow can be than sure she has the intentiond to stop that fly?, plus Argwntina has the right to do it, if you like it or not is your problem.
    Ehen you ralk about growing economy of Chile, yes is growin but Chilean people suffer and the government doesn t care, in Chile there are a lot people poor too like in Argentina and most of Suth America states.
    But Chile is not the best wxample as a great country. People is on the streets every day to ask for benefits like education, healt care and much more, may br the government has the money but the people suffer or most of the people.
    I don t say tthat CFK is right about the subsidios to the people, to me is and was a very bad idea and I don t like how the peronista party runs the country, that is way I leaved Argentina 17 years ago, but you can t put Chile as an good example of the perfect country, come on.

    Mar 08th, 2012 - 03:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stefan

    Look at the scary way KFC seems to be clawing at Pinera like a desperate hooker about to get beaten by her pimp. This woman really is a despicable politician. Maybe she'll threaten to call her cancer-infested friend, Chavez down to 'deal' with Chile, or maybe just shake her fist and force him to listen to Morrissey while she takes a dump on his shoe.
    This will be a true test of Chile's resolve and commitment to either freedom and prosperity, or tyranny and corruption. I hope Pinera tells KFC to find a long, hard tool to gag herself with. Anyone notice that Argentina is a lot like the fictional country of Val Verde from Commando and Die Hard 2? South American banana state with poverty and corruption right up to the palace steps.

    Mar 08th, 2012 - 06:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    Don't you have British Airways?

    Mar 08th, 2012 - 08:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    Sebastian Piñera: “If you think I'm going to bend over like Paraguay and Uruguay then you've got another thing coming. And keep your grubby hands off of LAN.”
    Mafia-Ghoul KFC: “I'm going to get you for that” *flicks forked tongue*

    Mar 08th, 2012 - 10:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Vindictive little minx, isn't she?

    Mar 08th, 2012 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcelo Kohen

    MercoPress is wrong: 1999 is not a three side agreement. The parties are the United Kingdom and the Argentine Republic. The latter has always welcomed Islanders participation in the British delegation.

    Mar 08th, 2012 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    You guys are coockoo, this thread is a perfect example of the irrational hating I just mentioned over on the “kind gesture” thread. So I suppose to counter it, let me just say she's looking very nice in the picture, unlike that Pinochetite stiff she's meeting for necessary reasons of state but as a person is far too good for =)

    Mar 08th, 2012 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @29 Kohen, we know you're incapable of holding any thought that doesn't align with current Kirchner policy, so let's make it very simple for your weak mind.

    A) Thin Kirchner Sr. didn't like negotiating, contrary to the UN resolutions saying they should negotiate, and walked out of negotiations.
    B) Thin Kirchner Sr. didn't like negotiating, contrary to the UN resolutions saying they should negotiate, and walked out of negotiations.
    C) Thin Kirchner Sr. didn't like negotiating, contrary to the UN resolutions saying they should negotiate, and walked out of negotiations.
    D) Thin Kirchner Sr. didn't like negotiating, contrary to the UN resolutions saying they should negotiate, and walked out of negotiations.
    E) Thin Kirchner Sr. didn't like negotiating, contrary to the UN resolutions saying they should negotiate, and walked out of negotiations.

    I'm guessing that even someone of your intellect would be able to understand these 5 very very important points, before making another imbecilic statement.

    Mar 08th, 2012 - 12:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    Greekyoghurt

    You are a wasting of time, you think you are right but are not.
    Have a happy life if you can

    Mar 08th, 2012 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @32 sorry pepegalleta, I didn't realise you couldn't read that Thin Kirchner Sr. went against the UN resolutions that you continuously talk about and walked out of negotiations with the UK et al.

    Sorry about that, him going against the UN resolutions and all that.

    *pat's him on the head*

    Mar 08th, 2012 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    greekyoughurt, apologise if I miss undertand you, lets start again and be friends, actually I have nothing against island people, but I don t agree with UK , if the UN asked to sit down and fiscuss about it I think every country need to honor Un,
    don t you think?
    U am jewish and I don t even share how Israel act with Palestina

    Salute greekyoughurt

    Mar 08th, 2012 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    if the UN asked to sit down and fiscuss
    they cant, as your goverment either walks out, or demands the result before they talk,
    no go im afriad,, if you want the brits to talk, you must remove the offending article from your constitution, as a first . logic dont you think think .

    Mar 08th, 2012 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    briton is correct, pepe. but l'll go further.
    1) remove the Falklands sovereignty clause from your constitution,
    2) stop teaching your children lies at school about the Falklands,
    3) drop your ridiculous “claims”
    4) appologise for all the trouble Argentina has caused.
    Then we will/can talk.

    Mar 08th, 2012 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    I don t really think is gonna happen, but I don t want a new war, the problem is that you or me are not rouling the world,

    Mar 08th, 2012 - 11:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JORGE1982

    “bitch”, “hooker”, etc. A lot of insults to CFK and the moderator (JoJo) don't do anything, but don't you dare to insult the ugly queen of the british because he/she (JoJo) will ban you.

    Mar 09th, 2012 - 02:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    38 you are right but I think the moderator is pro british that is way, but don t worry after all british people pay for all the real parasitos, we are in the XXI and this british are still paying to have a lot of paraditos doing nothing more than live for free, plus every body watch the prince playing with Bolt. Regular people in Uk needs to work to feed the family and pay for everything.
    to me all the royal family are parasitos that doesn t know how work.
    Everybody in Uk pay taxes just to support the parasitos, becouse is what this people are, the old quern is a hooker and the family is a waste of money.
    how british people still wants to support those parasitos?, and then talk about corruption in Argentina, who the hell the reyal family think they are, may be think that the blue blood is truth, come on

    Mar 09th, 2012 - 03:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @34 If we honoured the UN as much as the Argentinians honour the UN when they completely ignored binding UNSCR 502 then what's that?

    Regardless of the lies you've been taught in school, the UK has spent a lot of time and effort negotiating and discussing the Falklands with the Argentinians, and look at the outcome. In the case of Thin Nestor Jr. he just ups sticks and walks out simply because he's not getting what he demands, and all the other negotiated agreements the Mafia-ghoul and her dead husband have reneged upon. In terms of objective truth the Argentinians are untrustworthy.

    So what do you suggest, the UK sits down again to have the same thing happen? What is that?

    Mar 09th, 2012 - 08:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Alfox

    24 Pepegalleta
    You are wrong. Argentina can’t deny the overfligth of her territory to civil or commercial aircraft. The so called “Right to Innocent Passage” was established by the International Civil Aviation Agreement, signed by Argentina in 1946, so LAN doesn’t have any permision to ask for to maintain the Punta Arenas Falklands schedule, unless of course, Argentina decides to stop honouring her international obligations one more time.

    Mar 09th, 2012 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    41 Thete are more than 100 excuses to stop and deny any previous agreement, you know that don t be naive, pollution in the area, Argentina can obliglate Lan to stop in Argentina the flight for inspection, a lot of arguments.
    But fon t worry I don t think CFK will stop the flight, But Argentina can do it.

    Mar 09th, 2012 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    42 pepegalleta

    ”Thete(sic) are more than 100 excuses to stop and deny any previous agreement”

    Well you might think there are but then you are Argentine (so you claim).

    The UK honours its agreements and UN SCR Resolutions, but we do not listen to C24 ramblings from a bunch of no-hopers. Do you know that Argentina is not even a member of C24?

    Just a troublemaker as usual.

    Mar 09th, 2012 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    38 JORGE1982
    39 pepegalleta
    The only parasite on here is you two, you moan about people insulting you, and then go on to insult our queen,
    She has nothing to do with this,
    And two wrongs do not make a right,
    Ditto argie boy,,ditto .

    .

    Mar 09th, 2012 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    Briton you don t have the right to say that and if your porpois is insult us don t talk to us
    To me you are a parasite

    Mar 09th, 2012 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    piss of prick
    i have a right to defend agains pricks like you who seem to think, you can insult, but we cant, your stupid reply puts it just as that, you idiot .

    Mar 09th, 2012 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    briton you arw a waist of time
    Idiot , try to don t talk to me, keep your noise in you business mother F ,,,,

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 12:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jeffski

    Why bother engaging with these miss informed idoits, It all boils down to one thing and one thing alone. The islanders gained full British citizenship with the British Nationality (Falkland Islands) Act 1983, after the Falklands War. Self-determination is the principle in international law that nations have the right to freely choose their sovereignty and international political status with no external compulsion or external interference. “UNDER UN CHARTER”

    So up yours.

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 10:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Alfox

    42 Pepegalleta
    What kind of agreement about the FI do you want to discuss with UK if you have more than 100 excuses to stop and deny it later? Being naive is to trust CFK.

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    49 ALFOX
    Hi, nice to meet you, Ism open mind about it, I don t really think this issue can be solve with politicians like Cameron and CFK, I think Philosofos can solve thos problem.
    My idea and is only my idea is to share the islands, some kind a merge with an agreement to share the islands, 50 and 50.
    Tome is yhe best way to go, may be the islands belong to Argentina or to UK, but politicians are Fu,,, up everething.
    If we can agree in 50/ 50 we will stop a pissible future war, share the gosh, shate the land, share the oil snd much more. I think at the en of the day it is ehat is gonna happen, I personally don t like wars, I sm jewish, I lost falily members in second war world, the 6 days war and I still have some family in the Israel army, that is way I know what it is lose family in a war.
    I don t think the 50/50 is gonna happen with this 2 presidents Cameron snd CFK, hope the next ones can fo it. If not ghis issue will never be solve and we ll face a new war in the future.
    What do you think sbout the 50/50 idea?

    Salute, cheers, shalom

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    pepegalleta
    dont talk to me stupid wanker, you turd, you think you get falklands, you shit head, you mother fuckers and your turds wont get nothing, we dont want or need wankers like you on these blogges, so dont insult us you turd stit head.

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    briton, I wish you and your family including son and doughter if uou have it blow up in a war, fucking ass

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 08:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    woof a child who wished for Christmas,
    oooooooooooooo,
    It has come to my attention from the British secret service that pilgrim
    Has death in his mind, ah death, blood guts all that entrailed fried on a spit and served cold, with chilly sauce,
    Like all Argies he wants war, but then runs away,, ooopppsss,
    Apparently pilgrim can blow up a rubber doll with one finger up his nose,

    To wish a bad thing on others will happen to you,
    Epegallet if you can blow up a doll then you are truly a wise man to avoid,and as you know what a fxcking arsy argie is, then good luck, arrrg
    Skitso,

    Mar 10th, 2012 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    Briton again, as you never tired to insult argentinians, I hope you and uour family blow up, may be I don t wish you dead, I wish you and your family suffer as handicap and pass your life in bed with out legs and arms but not only you, your family too, a nice argentinian bomb blowing up your family.
    You morher fucker wish argentina blow up, you start wishing I wish the worst to you and your family, cancer is a very good option for your son or doughter too, a slow dead, I wish you suffer forever. You and your family are not even turds.
    Zorete

    Mar 11th, 2012 - 12:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @53briton,
    l think he might have burst a blood vessel!
    Snaky little man isn't he?
    l had a parting shot at him on another thread but l'm going to ignore him from now on.

    Mar 11th, 2012 - 07:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @pepegalleta & briton

    Calm down boys and control your temper please. can you?

    Mar 11th, 2012 - 08:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    People on this site are correct, as a free born English man, it is unworthy of me to lower myself into the gutter to talk to a nobody like Pepegalleta

    So I will say this to him, and then no more will I either reply or listen to him,, and he will have to live with the guilt,
    Pepegalleta,,,
    Any man who wishes the deaths or innocent men women and children,
    Are not only antichrists, but a devil worshiper, doing his work,
    You are then a potential murderer and a child killer,
    And from this day I want nothing to do with you,
    You will have to live with the words of a potential child killer and a coward
    The rest of your life,
    Everyone on these bloggs will look Upon you as a devil worshiper doing the devils work, a coward and a killer and a murderer,
    You know longer exist, and these who associate with you,
    You know longer exist Pepegalleta,,,
    You know longer
    You know
    You
    Gone ?/
    Now fuck off .

    .

    Mar 11th, 2012 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Mar 11th, 2012 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chatcat

    ..so anyway @ 34 pepegalleta...how is this for a deal..you think share the islands...how about Argentina has West Falkland because it's closer to Argentina, UK keeps East Falkland, toss a coin for the other 700 islets, UK gets to keep South Georgia and Argentina gets every third South Sandwich Island. Hang on a moment...you seem to be doing pretty well out of this deal so we claim that southern most part of Argentina because it's on our continental shelf... what do you say?

    Mar 11th, 2012 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    Hi 59, the Argentinian land is out of the picture, I am talking about only the Islands, What I am talking about is only the islands and the good fait to create a merge in 100% of the island territory.
    We need to find a way to prevent any future war.
    I don t think any human want a new Palestina , a lot of people can be dead, don t think as a politsian think as a human.
    do you really think a war is the best answer ?, as an Argentinian I think Malvinas belong to Argentina but I think a human life has more value than land

    Mar 11th, 2012 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ynsere

    60 Pepegalleta - As far as I can recall, only Argentina has resorted to war so far, in 1982. Future Argentine attacks will clearly be averted with solid defense.
    Your comparison with Palestine is ridiculous. To start with the Islanders are not lobbing home-made (or donated) rockets into Argentina, nor are they considered terrorists by any civilised nation or international body.
    You can't expect the Falkland Islanders (or anyone else) to believe in Argentina until the war generation has passed on. I suggest Argentina plays dead until at least 2050.

    Mar 11th, 2012 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    61 I know diplomatic via takes time, but ower world change every day. Natural resourses are now the priority for different states, If you read the history that could give you some kind of idea about the future.
    I think something is gonna happen before. South America is progressing as a Region, every body knows that the reason of future was are gonna be for N resourses.
    When I mentioned Palestina is becouse there is not end till now.
    Not for the aggressives acts.
    But again, to me something is gonna happen before 2050.
    noce to meet you

    Mar 12th, 2012 - 12:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    62 pepegalleta

    Yes, I agree that something will happen before 2050.

    The Argentine economy will tank well before that and this time leave you lot destitute without anybody to help you.

    Even your fabled 'supporters' will take over your customers while you lick your wounds and cry and whine. So situation normal!

    Mar 12th, 2012 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ynsere

    63 - Chris - The Argentine economy goes tits up every five to ten years. So far it has always recovered by means of the confiscation of private savings (several different mechanisms have been used), flogging state- owned concerns or simply not paying back foreign or international bodies.
    Is there any reason to think it might be different this time?

    Mar 12th, 2012 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    63 that is what you eish, Argentina will change, As I tols you several tomes, Argentina produce mostly food, it is a product that every country wants.Mercosur is one of the most food producers on this world.
    In 10 more years, Mercosur will be the larger food supplier of the world, tody US is biggest food producer and is trating to negociate with Metcosur to have some control of the food.
    You are completly wrong if you think that Argentina will sink. Argentina is in this crapy condition one of the most important country in south America, actually the second most important market, why do you think UK is pushing to do more business with Argentina, ehy UK is buying beef from Argentina?,
    Argentina will change government in 3 more years, to me CFK and her party is over, new blood will be in charge of the country. And after all the issues a lot of countrys still wants to buy and be in touch with Argentina, including UK.
    Mercosur is and will be a powerfull region that every country in this world will want to be parteners, food, energy and water are the future, sorry if that bodets you cos UK doesen t have it, that s way is pushing Argentina with trades, doesen t want to lose the opportunity to negociate with Mercosur. The good thing whfn your country main products are food is that dvery country want and need ypur product, sorry if UK doesen t have it. But to me will be s pleasure to sell food to feed UK people, just ve careful, China is buying almost everething and could leave UK with out Mercosur food, that mean, Uk will need to pay more for ower food.

    Have fun
    Have fun

    Mar 12th, 2012 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    64 ynsere

    Is there any reason to think it might be different this time?

    Only the same as a snowflake in hell! :o)

    Mar 12th, 2012 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    this problem is not going away over night! and I don´t think Argentina is going to stop reclaiming these islands,meanwhile the islanders are caught in the middle of a worsening situation and if the air link is cut from Chile it is just going to get uglier for these people in the islands.The rest of the South American nations are growing is strength and are taking less sh*** from the bullies that have bullied this continent for years (no need to name it as it is obvious who it is). So for the moment the normal English citizen will continue paying a huge cost through taxes to finance this military build up in the islands while back home youth unemployment reaches 23 percent unemployment and the pensioners have less buying power from their pensions, and university students have to pay high enrolment fees to enter university and libraries have to close because there is no state funding and the average battler gets poorer everyday. And let us not forget the other English colony in Europe! yes folks! colony in Europe, a colony imposed on another EU and Nato member, Spain. This colony folks is called Gibraltar.But or the moment the Spanish are not making it tough on the Gibraltans/llanitos. Uff what a mess the UK is in.

    Mar 15th, 2012 - 01:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ynsere

    65 - Pepegalleta - Do you really believe Mercosur will still exist in ten years' time?

    Mar 15th, 2012 - 03:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    I am more than sure, actually will be stronger, regions are more important than states, the question is wich countries are going to be included, the present members plus may be Chile that is pushing to be a perment member now is only an associate, Peru wants to be part too who knows wich one more. It is very important for S America to create a strong block, there is a very sttractive market for every country and asociation in south america, it is a market that doesen t have factories to develop technology, it is something that S America needs and in other hand S America is the richiest region in this world regarding natural resources. There are countries in S America that needs Mercosur to be competitives and to seduce investors, Uruguay by himself is a very small country, Chile too, Bolivia too but if we ad all the S A countries poppulation there is almost a 400.0000.0000 market.
    Europeans sice 2002 start coming to Argentina to run business it is just an example , Brasil will be the 5 biggest economy in the world, Mercosur needs to mature and then will be a very strong region.

    Mar 15th, 2012 - 04:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #67
    Have you ever heard of Ceuta and Melilla, both Spanish colonies in Morroco
    The Morrocans would like them back but Spain says no. What's the difference between this situation and Gib. ? If the population in Gib. want to join with Spain, they are welcome to do so. Maybe they have a race memory of Franco and his benevolent regime. They feel safer under the British flag.
    You could draw a comparison with the FI and the Argentine. - another quasi fascist regime.
    Right enough, life is hell in the UK. Things are so bad that we all want to emigrate to the paradise that is Argentina

    Mar 15th, 2012 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    Don t be a fool, I am not saying that Argentina is paradise, but the facts are the facts, since 2002 a lot europeand moves to Argentina
    Every body blame Argentina but still a lot if people from America and Europa are living in Argentina, there has to be a reason fir that.
    Don t you think.?
    another question, why Us and Europeans are buying properties and land in Argentina?, becouse a lot people here said that Argegentina is one if the worst places to be, there has to be a reason, do you know why?

    cheers

    Mar 15th, 2012 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chatcat

    @ 60 pepegalleta.. so you don't want to give up any land, just take it. That's a bad deal so, sorry no deal then!

    I'm pleased to hear that you don't want any wars though. I have to say, with great regret, that I foresee a time ahead where states will be competing for ever decreasing resources. There will be 'Darwinian' natural laws applying not just to individuals but to countries also. I believe that part of the fuss that the Argentinian government is making presently results from a sense that the UK is having to deal with economic problems and perhaps is militarily stretched. Weakness is perceived. This unfortunately just confirms me that states will resort to behaviour that is straight out of the school playground. There are plenty of countries in the world that are currently increasing their military spending, China, Russia, presumably also Iran and all for 'peaceful purposes' . I think the likelihood of future bullying and intimidation occurring between states is set to increase. Britain and Argentina could have co-operated to mutual benefit with regard to the oil resources around the Falklands but Argentina pulled out of this. I believe Britain should now be strong with regard to the bullying tactics of CFK towards the Falkland Islands. We should be strong as other countries no doubt would be in this situation and claim much needed resources for ourselves....after all it is our territory, claimed perfectly legitimately, settled at the same time as the lands in South America were but by different peoples. This truth may be painful to Argentina but it's still the truth.

    @ 67 aussie sunshine .. don't be such a pessimist in all of your posts..
    I thought I was a pessimist until I read what you have to say!

    Mar 15th, 2012 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @72Chatcat,
    Couldn't agree more.
    They want the Falklands because its the springboard to Antarctica.
    They perceived Britain as being weak, so thought they could just take what they wanted & we could do nothing about it.
    Look at the year they made their Antarctic “claim”-1942.
    We were on the defensive in North Africa & the Far East.
    They thought that we were about to go under so wanted like an aasvogel, to get in on the kill, while we were down!
    Actually, when the Antarctic wars over resources begin, l think that neither Argentina or the UK are going to get anything.
    China,Russia,lndia,Brazil,USA will get it all.
    @67 argentine sunshine, sorry, aussie sunshine.
    Welcome back.
    Being a person who wants to do the right thing,
    Don't you think that Spain may have a better case if they “returned” Ceuta & Melilla to Morrocco, as Clyde15 pointed out?

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 09:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pepegalleta

    72 yes I don t want any war , but if everething continue in this way will be one in the future.
    Hope Argentina and UK could sit dawn and make a some kind of merge about ot.
    Ig is not gonna happen with Cameron and CFK but eill see the next ones.
    Argentina started buying weapons that is not a good sign .
    Will see

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chatcat

    @74 why could Argentina not get along with Britain and the islanders? Could you not envisage a healthy friendship with mutually beneficial relations without pre-conditions and demands?

    @73 Isolde...yes, very astute observations. It just doesn't pay to be weak! With regard to the Falklands resources, I think the Chinese probably have their eyes on these and the Argentinians would just love to sell these to them and would probably be ripped off in the process..

    Mar 16th, 2012 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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