C24 chair says Falklands issue is over sovereignty, not exactly decolonization
The UN Special Committee on Decolonisation launched on Monday a new round of sessions with much attention focused on the Falklands/Malvinas dispute since Argentine president Cristina Fernandez next Thursday will become the first head of state to address the C24.
“It’s historic, it’s the first time the committee will be receiving a head of state and we are honoured it will be President Cristina Fernandez” said the Ecuadorian ambassador Diego Morejon-Pazmiño who chairs the special committee.
Cristina Fernandez is scheduled to address the C24 next Thursday claiming Argentine sovereignty over the Falklands, thus becoming the first head of state to do so, since normally C24 sessions are addressed by the ambassadors before the UN, visiting diplomats and at the most a Foreign minister.
The day is full of significance since on 14 June 1982 ended the war triggered by the Argentine military invasion of the Falklands which were recovered 74 days later by a British Task Force leaving 255 British and 649 Argentine combatants dead and three Falkland Islanders killed by accidental bombing.
“Both countries as requested by over 40 UN resolutions should sit to discuss the issue which is not exactly over decolonization, but rather over sovereignty” said Morejon-Pazmiño who emphasized that the main purpose of the committee is “for both sides to negotiate in a most peaceful way”.
The Ecuadorian ambassador regretted the “lack of will” from the UK to negotiate, (there will be no British special representative at the session), but there will be members from the Falkland Islands elected Legislative Assembly, and a delegation of young Islanders born after the conflict, who argue “there is not much debate, since the Falklands are British”.
The British authorities describe the visit of the Argentine president as “misfortunate” and “strange” according to UN sources since it is an attempt from Argentina “to internationalize” the issue and increase the rhetoric which has dominated Argentina/UK relations for the last 18 months.
Speaking from Stanley, Foreign Office minister, Jeremy Browne who is currently in the Falklands as part of the 30-year celebrations accused Buenos Aires of deliberately trying to undermine the economic growth of the islands.
He said: “Sometimes there is a narrative from Argentina – and the decolonization committee is prompted by that narrative – that here is Britain, this big, global power, and poor Argentina, that is going to the decolonization committee at the UN to try and have their voice heard.
”Well, that is the Argentine narrative. Let me put forward what I think is a much more accurate, contemporary narrative, which is that there is a G20 country, at the top table of world affairs, one would imagine keen to be responsible on the world stage, with a population of about 40 million people, seeking to put an economic blockade in place – in tangible terms the ambition of that is to impoverish an isolated community with about 3,000 people.”
The C24 will also focus on another British Overseas Territory but on Friday 15, Gibraltar to discuss the three centuries dispute. Gibraltar will be represented by Chief Minister Fabian Picardo while Spain will appeal to its permanent staff before the UN in New York.
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The C24 has no business or authority to discuss such matters, still it doesn't matter anyway since the C24 has no authority to do anything.
If there was any doubt the C24 is a joke organization not attended by world powers then this should remove all doubt.
Good work Browne;
”Well, that is the Argentine narrative. Let me put forward what I think is a much more accurate, contemporary narrative, which is that there is a G20 country, at the top table of world affairs, one would imagine keen to be responsible on the world stage, with a population of about 40 million people, seeking to put an economic blockade in place – in tangible terms the ambition of that is to impoverish an isolated community with about 3,000 people.”
No it's not Pazmino, you need to bone up on your 'we hate the British' crib sheet....sorry, I mean....check your remit. The Falklands is no concern of yours.
falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2012/06/12/decolonization-committee-chair-says-the-falklands-should-not-be-on-their-list/
As the chairman has therefore confirmed that firstly, the committee is not worth the space they take up in the meeting room and second, their discussions about the Falklands are nothing to do with the the C24's whole purpose and therefore renders the whole discussion pointless and the C24 powerless, I recommend a change of name for the group, how about these?
The C24 “Recolonisation” Committee (as they are quite obviously supporting Argentine colonial ambitions).
The C24 “what are we doing again?” Committee (as they have obviously forgotten what they are there for ie. decolonisation talks).
The C24 “Give Argentina what they want cause they're our mates” Committee.
The C24 “Die Brit Pirates, Die!!!” Committee.
The C24 “Give a useless politician something to do and a free lunch” Committee.
Any further suggestions would be appreciated. I'm sure we can come up with some more names for the “Give a redundant UN sub-sub-committee a name” competition.
Hmm.. absolute nonsense committee then.
What absolute drivel - pure histrionics .
I agree completly if the issue is not decolinization (given that the Falklands are not a colony) then the issue is outside the remit and responsability of the C24 and it has no juristicaion in making a decleration and if it does it cannot be either taken seriously or in anyway legaly binding. The only organsiation in the world with the right to try the case is the international adjudication court which will make a decision on the soveringity of the islands based on the word of law and not patrotic fevour or the evidence of an incressingly desperate world leader whos country is collapsing around her ears mainly due to the fact that she does not have a F**king clue what she is actually doing.
Of course,pirates, and criminals,never aknowledge they did something wrong,like crazy people.They think they deserve what they did!
Down with the brits pirates!
The British authorities describe the visit of the Argentine president as “misfortunate” and “strange” according to UN sources since it is an attempt from Argentina “to internationalize” the issue and increase the rhetoric which has dominated Argentina/UK relations for the last 18 months.
AAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH poor deluded,bankrupt ex empire!
”Well, that is the Argentine narrative. Let me put forward what I think is a much more accurate, contemporary narrative, which is that there is a G20 country, at the top table of world affairs, one would imagine keen to be responsible on the world stage, with a population of about 40 million people, seeking to put an economic blockade in place – in tangible terms the ambition of that is to impoverish an isolated community with about 3,000 people.”
Seems that the Ecuadorian ambassado has the argies taped. So it seems that he's going to be faced with some imperialist colonialist harpy and knows it. If, as he has said and others have pointed out, this is not a matter of decolonisation but of sovereignty, then it has no place at the C24. Perhaps a British special representative SHOULD attend, on this occasion, simply to demand that the Falkland Islands are removed from the C24 list. After all, it is not a colony. It is not administered directly by Britain. It has its own government. That chooses to depend on Britain for the conduct of its defence and foreign affairs.
Of course that means that there would only be two forums to which CFK could take her “case”. The ICJ and the battlefield!
Guess its trying to write something pleasant and setting up correctly
So of course that Ecuadorian chair will gush over having CFK at their meeting - she is a “super-star” in the firmament of Latin American political theatre. However, the British strategy of not appearing is thus a useful counter-tactic to devalue this tercermundista display diplomatic machismo.
Instead, actually having genuine Falkland Islanders appear is a most suitable rejoinder and although they'll probably be treated with a shabby disdain by both the Ecuadorian chair and committee members, they will be the real stars. These young Falkland Islanders showing up are a pointed reminder to the UN committee that these Islands are not just a British military outpost plus oil exploration operations, but a real community.
Born after 1982 means born not only after the war, but also born into the Falkland Islands as a self--determining community that enjoys their own sovereignty - NOT the “sovereignty” of becoming an Argentine colony.
So far, we know that CFK is showing up on 14 June to do her strut, but what is going to happen on 21 June when the De-Col committee actually devotes the whole meeting to the Falkland Islands, according to the draft agenda?
Reference - draft agenda (see page 5 for Falkland Islands):
www.un.org/ga/search/view_doc.asp?symbol=A/AC.109/2012/L.2
all seems a little Faux to me.
A biased chair for the c24
at least Falklands have self determination on there side :)
How on earth did a complete fool like Diego Morejon-Pazmiño get into such a position with the UN. He is undermining the UN and all the good work it does around the Globe.
We already know the outcome of the meeting. The C24 will state that this is a not within their remit but Argentina and the UK should talk.
JB is a master at making CFKC look every bit the lunatic, erratic, drama-queen she is.
Well said, she really is a global political superstar =)
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@31 Haven't I told you about your spelling? You mean she's a global political super-rat. And to some extent, looks like one as well. Rat, that is!
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then it should be removed from this C24, should it not .
The Ecuadorian ambassador regretted the “lack of will” from the UK to negotiate
Bad British,
But hey its perfectly ok for argentina to break and ignore international law, [that’s ok]
She can abuse, threaten, intimidate , slander ,
That’s ok, but sad the nasty British, wont talk,
[reply, P.O. ]
[basically the government should get of its arse, and back it up]
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... only in South America does this make sense
she will be telling us, she owns the UK next,
Jeremy Browne set the record straight about Argentina not their Ecuadorian stooge.
No doubt that sovereignty will likely be seen by C-24 as sovereignty of Argentina being jeopardized by UK, and not that the UK is cooperating with the Falkland Islands to develop the Islands’ own sovereignty.
Reference:
SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON DECOLONIZATION APPROVES TEXTS ON HEARINGS REQUESTS FROM NON-SELF-GOVERNING TERRITORIES, DISSEMINATION OF INFORMATION:
www.un.org/News/Press/docs//2012/gacol3237.doc.htm
Argentina would like to take over Malvinas again and polute it with Argentines, we would also like South Georgia back and South Sandwich Islands back and these too can be poluted with Argentines, most of Antarctica too can be claimed by Argentina and should be returned!
This would not be colonialism because it would be our land returned to us!
There is a lot of false solidarity in these sorts of disputes as supporting one nearby nation trying to take something from another may win you support in taking territory/defending against someone taking your territory.
They want Argentinas support in their disputes with Peru - a nation they have fought several wars with in the 20th century.
Being as the UK is Several thousand miles away they don't see us as a threat, so they feel safe in backing their “friends” in BA.
If this is about soverignty - then this is now outside the remit of the decolonisation commitee.
Thinking about that- just when does a country or dependent territory get to be defined as such?
Being as Britain maintained an unbroken claim since before the Spanish aquiring the French territory - surely the FI should be seen as a stable and British community.
Unless, of course, the nations of south america are racist and view “anglo saxons” as inferiors who should be denied the right of running an independent community in the area.
Methinks there is an element of this afoot.
That was my favourite post on here for a long time.
You need to look up the difference between populate and pollute - assuming you didn't intend to say what you did??
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