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C24 chair says Falklands issue is over sovereignty, not exactly decolonization
The UN Special Committee on Decolonisation launched on Monday a new round of sessions with much attention focused on the Falklands/Malvinas dispute since Argentine president Cristina Fernandez next Thursday will become the first head of state to address the C24. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesIf the chair of the C24 agrees this is not about decolonization then surely the Falklands should be struck off their list as beyond their remit?
Jun 12th, 2012 - 09:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ha good point. I failed to spot that one. Maybe that will come out at the summit. If so that would leave CFK between a rock and a hard place. Lets hope that is the end result of commitee and that it is no longer an agender for decolonization.
Jun 12th, 2012 - 09:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0@1 Agreed. He has said in effect that The Falkland Islands is nothing to do with the C24. It is therefore not up to him to suggest that Argentina and the UK negotiate.
Jun 12th, 2012 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Correct Idlehands.
Jun 12th, 2012 - 09:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0The C24 has no business or authority to discuss such matters, still it doesn't matter anyway since the C24 has no authority to do anything.
If there was any doubt the C24 is a joke organization not attended by world powers then this should remove all doubt.
Good work Browne;
”Well, that is the Argentine narrative. Let me put forward what I think is a much more accurate, contemporary narrative, which is that there is a G20 country, at the top table of world affairs, one would imagine keen to be responsible on the world stage, with a population of about 40 million people, seeking to put an economic blockade in place – in tangible terms the ambition of that is to impoverish an isolated community with about 3,000 people.”
“Morejon-Pazmiño emphasized that the main purpose of C24 is “for both sides to negotiate in a most peaceful way”.”
Jun 12th, 2012 - 10:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0No it's not Pazmino, you need to bone up on your 'we hate the British' crib sheet....sorry, I mean....check your remit. The Falklands is no concern of yours.
Yes, since the Chairman says it is not a “Colonialism” issue I also look forward to our removal from future UN agendas. I assume therefore that on the 15th CFK will instead approach the ICJ.
Jun 12th, 2012 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Perspective - that's what you need :-)
Jun 12th, 2012 - 11:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2012/06/12/decolonization-committee-chair-says-the-falklands-should-not-be-on-their-list/
So let me get this straight, the C24 Decolonisation committee chair is stating the the Falklands is not about decolonising but about sovereignty.
Jun 12th, 2012 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0As the chairman has therefore confirmed that firstly, the committee is not worth the space they take up in the meeting room and second, their discussions about the Falklands are nothing to do with the the C24's whole purpose and therefore renders the whole discussion pointless and the C24 powerless, I recommend a change of name for the group, how about these?
The C24 “Recolonisation” Committee (as they are quite obviously supporting Argentine colonial ambitions).
The C24 “what are we doing again?” Committee (as they have obviously forgotten what they are there for ie. decolonisation talks).
The C24 “Give Argentina what they want cause they're our mates” Committee.
The C24 “Die Brit Pirates, Die!!!” Committee.
The C24 “Give a useless politician something to do and a free lunch” Committee.
Any further suggestions would be appreciated. I'm sure we can come up with some more names for the “Give a redundant UN sub-sub-committee a name” competition.
Morejon-Pazmiño: 'The Falklands issue has nothing to do with our committee, so with this in mind we'll invite President Kirchner who has nothing to do with the committtee, to do a complete days worth of ranting on Falklands liberation day about how much they want to colonise the islands.”
Jun 12th, 2012 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hmm.. absolute nonsense committee then.
“It’s historic, it’s the first time the committee will be receiving a head of state and we are honoured it will be President Cristina Fernandez”
Jun 12th, 2012 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What absolute drivel - pure histrionics .
@ all above
Jun 12th, 2012 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I agree completly if the issue is not decolinization (given that the Falklands are not a colony) then the issue is outside the remit and responsability of the C24 and it has no juristicaion in making a decleration and if it does it cannot be either taken seriously or in anyway legaly binding. The only organsiation in the world with the right to try the case is the international adjudication court which will make a decision on the soveringity of the islands based on the word of law and not patrotic fevour or the evidence of an incressingly desperate world leader whos country is collapsing around her ears mainly due to the fact that she does not have a F**king clue what she is actually doing.
not a decolonization issue. get the Falklands out of the c24 then lol
Jun 12th, 2012 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well said. Things clear. Sovereignty.
Jun 12th, 2012 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Ecuadorian ambassador regretted the “lack of will” from the UK to negotiate!
Jun 12th, 2012 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course,pirates, and criminals,never aknowledge they did something wrong,like crazy people.They think they deserve what they did!
Down with the brits pirates!
The British authorities describe the visit of the Argentine president as “misfortunate” and “strange” according to UN sources since it is an attempt from Argentina “to internationalize” the issue and increase the rhetoric which has dominated Argentina/UK relations for the last 18 months.
AAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH poor deluded,bankrupt ex empire!
Does this mean all the UN rewsolution that the argoes quote parrot fashion dont really apply...
Jun 12th, 2012 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am surprised, and encouraged slightly, by the Ecuadorian chairman's comments.
Jun 12th, 2012 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”Well, that is the Argentine narrative. Let me put forward what I think is a much more accurate, contemporary narrative, which is that there is a G20 country, at the top table of world affairs, one would imagine keen to be responsible on the world stage, with a population of about 40 million people, seeking to put an economic blockade in place – in tangible terms the ambition of that is to impoverish an isolated community with about 3,000 people.”
Seems that the Ecuadorian ambassado has the argies taped. So it seems that he's going to be faced with some imperialist colonialist harpy and knows it. If, as he has said and others have pointed out, this is not a matter of decolonisation but of sovereignty, then it has no place at the C24. Perhaps a British special representative SHOULD attend, on this occasion, simply to demand that the Falkland Islands are removed from the C24 list. After all, it is not a colony. It is not administered directly by Britain. It has its own government. That chooses to depend on Britain for the conduct of its defence and foreign affairs.
Of course that means that there would only be two forums to which CFK could take her “case”. The ICJ and the battlefield!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/9326833/Falkland-Islands-plan-referendum-to-send-a-message-to-Argentina.html
Jun 12th, 2012 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I get the impression that any fight with the Argies would be similar to the Black Knight in Holy Grail “I've beaten you” “no you haven't” “I've got the islands back you looney” “no you haven't, it's just a minor setback” aaand so on.
Jun 12th, 2012 - 01:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why wait until next year to hold a referendum? Does it take that long to organise a couple of thousand people to raise and lower their middle finger in synchronicity?
Jun 12th, 2012 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Does anyone in the FI know, whether Independence will be a voting option?
Jun 12th, 2012 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@13 & 14 are you deluded? If the issue is not decolinization then the C24 has no juristication in the matter. I know the law in Argentina is strange so do you need me to explain the idea of juristication?
Jun 12th, 2012 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#19 :)
Jun 12th, 2012 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Guess its trying to write something pleasant and setting up correctly
The falkland islands have the right of self determination!
Jun 12th, 2012 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The current integration paradigm with which that UN committee seems to understand the issue is that the Falkland Islands are a diseased cyst in the otherwise-healthy flesh of Argentine sovereignty that just keeps festering away, and until these decolonizer-surgeons cut out the oozing cyst that is Britain, this sore just won't “heal”. That is, the sovereignty of Argentina be made whole and complete. Let me guess that something like this paradigm will be voiced by CFK in her speech at the committee.
Jun 12th, 2012 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So of course that Ecuadorian chair will gush over having CFK at their meeting - she is a “super-star” in the firmament of Latin American political theatre. However, the British strategy of not appearing is thus a useful counter-tactic to devalue this tercermundista display diplomatic machismo.
Instead, actually having genuine Falkland Islanders appear is a most suitable rejoinder and although they'll probably be treated with a shabby disdain by both the Ecuadorian chair and committee members, they will be the real stars. These young Falkland Islanders showing up are a pointed reminder to the UN committee that these Islands are not just a British military outpost plus oil exploration operations, but a real community.
Born after 1982 means born not only after the war, but also born into the Falkland Islands as a self--determining community that enjoys their own sovereignty - NOT the “sovereignty” of becoming an Argentine colony.
So far, we know that CFK is showing up on 14 June to do her strut, but what is going to happen on 21 June when the De-Col committee actually devotes the whole meeting to the Falkland Islands, according to the draft agenda?
Reference - draft agenda (see page 5 for Falkland Islands):
http://www.un.org/ga/search/view_doc.asp?symbol=A/AC.109/2012/L.2
I'll say it again Malvi you are a tit
Jun 12th, 2012 - 01:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0seems biased that a person from a fellow South American country chairs the meeting they could have at least chose someone from a neutral respected nation like US.
Jun 12th, 2012 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0all seems a little Faux to me.
A biased chair for the c24
at least Falklands have self determination on there side :)
What an Ecuadorian idiot.
Jun 12th, 2012 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How on earth did a complete fool like Diego Morejon-Pazmiño get into such a position with the UN. He is undermining the UN and all the good work it does around the Globe.
I would love to know how much money the C24 have wasted over the last 20 years?. (As we all know they do shit all)
Jun 12th, 2012 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Guys ultimatly it does not matter. Any ruling is non binding and the UK government will continue to do the right thing and ignore any resolutions because they do not comply with the UN charter and are therefore null and void. The Ecuadorian ambasador can regrett all he wants but the fact is he and UN are absolutly powerless to do anything about it and so is the Argentine government. But they will continue to waste money pushing it, not because they actual want the Islands but because it is the Peronists favourite trick to distract the population of Argentine from the many domestic problems building up. If they actual ever gained the islands they would have to invent another international problem along with a fake history. “Los Islas de Gallapagos son Argentinas”
Jun 12th, 2012 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good stuff. The Chairman admits this is not a matter for their committee but is excited about having a visitor to brighten up an otherwise dull and pointless day.
Jun 12th, 2012 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We already know the outcome of the meeting. The C24 will state that this is a not within their remit but Argentina and the UK should talk.
JB is a master at making CFKC look every bit the lunatic, erratic, drama-queen she is.
“It’s historic, it’s the first time the committee will be receiving a head of state and we are honoured it will be President Cristina Fernandez”
Jun 12th, 2012 - 02:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well said, she really is a global political superstar =)
Just dont turn the lights up too much she might melt.
Jun 12th, 2012 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 031. ummm......... No she isn't, retard pigmy maybe?, botox-star etc (anyone think of anymore?)
Jun 12th, 2012 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As The Independent put it, 'It is like the Queen turning up at a local village fete steering committee.' They are bound to be excited because usually no one takes any notice of them as they are pointless.
Jun 12th, 2012 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0e-petition to stop sending aid to Argentina:
Jun 12th, 2012 - 02:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/34551
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Jun 12th, 2012 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@27 Whassamatter? Don't you like him? Is there any particular reason? Might it be that he seems to have identified some argie imperialist colonialism? Or is that colonialist imperialism?
Jun 12th, 2012 - 04:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@31 Haven't I told you about your spelling? You mean she's a global political super-rat. And to some extent, looks like one as well. Rat, that is!
Stop all funding to this corrupt country called Argentina bring down this corrupt country and all who govern Argentina.
Jun 12th, 2012 - 04:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.StopFundingArgentina.org
Sign the form now
@38 shouldn't it be 'Stop Funding the C25 (C24 + Argentina)' and shouldn't it be sent to Uncle Ban at the UN?
Jun 12th, 2012 - 05:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0sit to discuss the issue which is not exactly over decolonization, but rather over sovereignty” said Morejon-Pazmiño
Jun 12th, 2012 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0then it should be removed from this C24, should it not .
The Ecuadorian ambassador regretted the “lack of will” from the UK to negotiate
Bad British,
But hey its perfectly ok for argentina to break and ignore international law, [that’s ok]
She can abuse, threaten, intimidate , slander ,
That’s ok, but sad the nasty British, wont talk,
[reply, P.O. ]
[basically the government should get of its arse, and back it up]
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@40 It's bad for UK to have no will, but it's quite okay for Argentina to present to a committee that even the chairman says has nothing to do with Argentina, for a whole day on how it wants to steal some land.
Jun 12th, 2012 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0... only in South America does this make sense
only in CFK;S head does fantasy become a reality,
Jun 12th, 2012 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0she will be telling us, she owns the UK next,
37 Whats to like?
Jun 12th, 2012 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jeremy Browne set the record straight about Argentina not their Ecuadorian stooge.
Interesting that UN C-24 press release (link below) lables participating Falkland Islanders as “petitioners” (and that Falklands will be on for 3pm, 14 June). So why isn’t CFK included on that UN press release as a petitioner for Argentina, when we know that she will be speaking, and that Argentina isn’t a member of the C-24? Double standard at work?
Jun 12th, 2012 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No doubt that sovereignty will likely be seen by C-24 as sovereignty of Argentina being jeopardized by UK, and not that the UK is cooperating with the Falkland Islands to develop the Islands’ own sovereignty.
Reference:
SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON DECOLONIZATION APPROVES TEXTS ON HEARINGS REQUESTS FROM NON-SELF-GOVERNING TERRITORIES, DISSEMINATION OF INFORMATION:
http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs//2012/gacol3237.doc.htm
Decolonisation chair telling us this issue has nothing to do with decolonisation. Pretty good stuff, to be honest.
Jun 12th, 2012 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Malvinas is a colony, it is a English colony populated by colonial pirates. The fact is this is true and everyone is knowing it.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 03:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina would like to take over Malvinas again and polute it with Argentines, we would also like South Georgia back and South Sandwich Islands back and these too can be poluted with Argentines, most of Antarctica too can be claimed by Argentina and should be returned!
This would not be colonialism because it would be our land returned to us!
I would'nt take too much notice of what Ecuador thinks.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 07:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0There is a lot of false solidarity in these sorts of disputes as supporting one nearby nation trying to take something from another may win you support in taking territory/defending against someone taking your territory.
They want Argentinas support in their disputes with Peru - a nation they have fought several wars with in the 20th century.
Being as the UK is Several thousand miles away they don't see us as a threat, so they feel safe in backing their “friends” in BA.
If this is about soverignty - then this is now outside the remit of the decolonisation commitee.
Thinking about that- just when does a country or dependent territory get to be defined as such?
Being as Britain maintained an unbroken claim since before the Spanish aquiring the French territory - surely the FI should be seen as a stable and British community.
Unless, of course, the nations of south america are racist and view “anglo saxons” as inferiors who should be denied the right of running an independent community in the area.
Methinks there is an element of this afoot.
46 Filippo (#)
Jun 13th, 2012 - 10:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0That was my favourite post on here for a long time.
You need to look up the difference between populate and pollute - assuming you didn't intend to say what you did??
@46 Filippo “POLUTE” means “CONTAMINAR” in Spanish. As you repeated this I can only assume that is what you mean. Therefore, we supporters of the Falkland Islanders can only agree with you that Argentina will only “contaminate” the islands, South Georgia and South Shetland if it ever obtains sovereignty.
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