Cristina Fernandez calls for an end to colonialism and blast UN Security Council
In a strong speech claiming sovereignty over the Falklands/Malvinas issue addressing the UN Decolonization Committee, Argentine president Cristina Fernandez called on the UK “to leave this history of colonialism behind and start building a new history based on dialogue” but at the same time blasted the recent announcement of a referendum in the Islands do decide on their political status.
“We are not asking them to acknowledge that the Malvinas Islands belong to Argentina. We are only asking that we sit down and talk. Can anyone in this time refuse to engage in dialogue?” asked the Argentine leader in a rare appearance before one of many UN committees normally covered by mid ranking diplomats.
The Argentine leader began her speech insisting “it was the dictatorship who decided to unilaterally begin the Malvinas War without asking Argentines for their opinion” and added that she did not stand there alone, since she had the support of most Argentine political parties with congressional representation, some of which “strongly oppose my Government, but even so they believe that colonialism and the defence of sovereignty supersedes that”.
The speech on Thursday June 14 coincided with the thirtieth anniversary of the end of the Malvinas war triggered by the invasion and occupation of the Falklands by Argentine forces in April 1982, which were ousted by a Task Force sent by then PM Margaret Thatcher.
“I’m here to ask for the humanitarian right. Our country is a human rights champion. Few nations have the kind of immigration freedom that we have. Few nations open their doors to citizens from all over the world like we do” she stated.
The president also reminded the committee that she had been joined by “war veterans and mothers war veterans who still haven’t been able to recover the remains of their sons and daughters.”
Cristina Fernandez then condemned the referendum that the Falklands have planned in order to determine whether the population wishes to remain British or become Argentine, and asked “when it comes to conducting a referendum, why don’t we have one in Afghanistan or Iraq and see what the people think about what they are doing there?”
She also blasted the flying of the Falklands flag; “When I saw the waving flag of the so-called ‘Falkland Islands’ I was ashamed, because wars are never cause for celebration or commemoration” she sated.
However her most heavy fire was against the UN Security Council, because the UK as a member can ignore compliance with dozens of UN and C24 resolutions and she underlined there are two categories of UN membership, whether you belong or not to the Security Council.
“The UK is benefiting from its privileged position as a permanent member of the security council of the United Nations,” she said.
Cristina Fernandez said that the UK/Argentina dispute over the Falklands is not a “bilateral issue”, but multilateral and does not only involve Argentina and the region “but has become a global issue” and challenged “how can the UK call the Malvinas British territory when it is 14.000 kilometres away from London?”
In support of Argentina’s claim Cristina Fernandez revealed that in the early seventies there had been secret negotiations with the UK, on London’s initiative, to share the Falklands as a co-dominion with the two flags, Spanish and English as the two official languages and alternate governors named every two years by the Queen and the Argentine president.
“The ‘non paper’ from the Foreign Office had five points for discussion” and was presented to the surprise of then President Juan Peron in May 1974, However “unfortunately President Peron died in July”, negotiations then collapsed and as the “Foreign Office had forecasted this was followed in Argentina by a military coup”.
“This means the UK admitted there was a sovereignty dispute and they were willing to discuss the issue and that is why we are requesting a resumption of the interrupted negotiations”, said the Argentine president.
Before Cristina Fernandez two petitioners, Alejandro Betts (born and bred in the Falklands but who left after the war to marry an Argentine girl) who lives in Cordoba and Marcelo Luis Vernet, a writer and direct descendent from whom Argentina identify as their first Governor of the Malvinas and allegedly was ousted by the British in 1833, made brief statements before the C24.
Contrary to what happened with the Falklands petitioners who spoke for the Falklands, lawmakers Roger Edwards and Mike Summers, the two Argentines received a warm clapping but with Cristina Fernandez it was a several minutes resounding applause and even congratulations from the chair of the C24 committee.
It must be said that Cristina Fernandez showed up for the speech with a numerous delegation of lawmakers, ministers, governors, mayors and Malvinas veterans’ organizations representatives, over 90 delegates, that turned the C24 presentation in a political rally of the clapping kind the president likes to organize back in Argentina.
Before speaking before the Committee, the President met with UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon.
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My favourite bit was her talking about geography and because the birds in the region don't fly over London its obvious the islands belong to Argentina.
As ever strewn by lies, half truths and more nonsense.
And as ever she doesn't recognize the people who have been living there for nearly 200 years which is why we know she was obviously joking about being a leader in human rights. We are a leader in human rights (when it suits us) and it doesn't suit us to recognize the human rights of the people of the Falkland's Island (because thats obviously inconvenient) nor does she recognize the most important right in the UN chapter of self determination.
As ever more selective nonsense and lies from the queen of corruption! Haha!
Rule Britannia.
Typical Mafia tactics ;crowd out the room with lots of 'heavies'.
The Falklanders should have brought some pots and pans to remind the queen bee of her troubles closer to home.
Maybe commerate the end of a truly uneccessary war and the loss of life on both sides:(
But then inconvenient facts
“We are not asking them to acknowledge that the Malvinas Islands belong to Argentina.” – So what is the purpose to sit down and talk?? oh and the falklands were refused, so!!!!!
“it was the dictatorship who decided to unilaterally begin the Malvinas War without asking Argentines for their opinion”
Perhaps True, but bit late now to start making excuses
and added that she did not stand there alone, - Errmmm I remember quite a few Rg academics who disagree
“but even so they believe that colonialism and the defence of sovereignty supersedes that” – I actual don’t believe this to be true. I believe other items of government must be more important……she is basically suggesting RG population take second place to her fight for Falklands
“I’m here to ask for the humanitarian right. Our country is a human rights champion. Few nations have the kind of immigration freedom that we have. Few nations open their doors to citizens from all over the world like we do” - don’t anderstand the point being made…guess trying to make RG’s look all kind and lovely????!!!Again, not relevant to the aguement at hand!
“war veterans and mothers war veterans who still haven’t been able to recover the remains of their sons and daughters.” – no one has ever impeded the recovery, if it is so desired! Again irrelevant, and using other peoples grief to pump herself up!
“when it comes to conducting a referendum, why don’t we have one in Afghanistan or Iraq and see what the people think about what they are doing there?” – (that one was for the Syrian representative) There is no comparison between the falklands and the middle eastern countries she lists.
“When I saw the waving flag of the so-called ‘Falkland Islands’ I was ashamed, because wars are never cause for celebration or commemoration” - ermmm, Monday, April 2nd 2012 - Cristina Fernandez leads main Malvinas war commemoration in Ushuaia
“The UK is benefiting from its privileged position as a permanent member of the security council of the United Nations,” - a bit bitchy, and she does not illustrate how!
Falklands is not a “bilateral issue”, but multilateral - Ok so need to sit down and talk with you then, better get every country in the world involved ….daft comment, and misleading as I cant see a huge amount of countries even running an article on the issues
“how can the UK call the Malvinas British territory when it is 14.000 kilometres away from London?” – Distance has no baring on the argument! If distance has anything to do with it then where do you stop! Does Cuba become American because its close? Greenland is Danish but should be Canadian, blah blah blah…oh French Guinea
“This means the UK admitted there was a sovereignty” – No it doesn’t and she is being a tad selective about her History, anyway that was messed-up by the Coup. Unfortunate, but now everyone is having to live with it! RG’s fault none elses!!
“why we are requesting a resumption of the interrupted negotiations”, so do blockades really help get people to discuss??? Turning down a falklands request to have a chat helps everyone think RG’s are lovely people (humanitarian hehe).
Can't the Argies ever tell the whole truth ??
falklandstimeline.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/falklands-history8.pdf
@12 They were subject to acceptance by the Falkland Islanders then, and they are still now.
You: “Can't the Argies ever tell the whole truth ??”
Me: “No, they're genetically and socially incapable of telling the truth.”
epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/34551
I feel like Colonel Blimp.
Well done those Falkland Islanders for presenting a clear and concise case. They behaved with dignity and courage. As for Kirchner, her rambling and overly emotional speech was badly conceived and littered with errors.
Mr Cameron's response was correct, to the point and sufficiently forceful.
And will pay the price for doing so.
”To develop friendly relations among nations based on respect for the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples, and to take other appropriate measures to strengthen universal peace;
Now FO you stupid woman.
The ceremonial activities to mark the return to self-government under the British Protectorate could have been damaged by such an Argentinian exposition were it not for the DoubleSpeak of both the Argentinian delegation and the C24 itself.
She doesn't realise that 11/11 is celebrated in a lot of countries in the free world, and just because Peron's BFF lost WW2 that somehow it shouldn't be celebrated? Is she not aware that their bank-note celebrates their winning of the Conquest of the Desert? They celebrate their wars of independence against spain?
She's just got no coherent thoughts.
Typical Argentine.
So she should be, she should remember who was responsible for it and that the commemoration is for the end of that war, the defeat of blatant armed aggression and the restoration of liberty.
Seems to have a very selective memory.
@30 I doubt it, on the whole she made herself look a fool, surrounded by a bunch of clapping fools. It was ridiculous by all standards.
Rice had it about right - Oh what a circus.
Mrs CFK sped off to shops to buy several pairs of Jimmy Choos, Burberry Clothing and a new MINI forgetting they are all British.
CFK said import duties apply only to little people and not the members of the inner sanctum and finished by saying everyone should enjoy themselves by Kraft durch Freude
That's before bringing up Security Council Resolution 502, which they completely ignored.
As a country, you can struggle to find somewhere that ignores the UN more than Argentina.
www.facebook.com/Britain1592
@37 Vernet was clearly upset that his forefathers expedition ended in epic fail and in response decided to read out a 70 year old lady's 'mills and boon' novel to the biased-committee. The worst thing was those of us who had to listen to it, and then the committee acting like it was historical fact.
They were just the words of a bitter bitter author who couldn't sell a book.
CFK was right to slag of the UN as being useless,
And this stupid cowardly corrupt UN should back up its own resolutions,
Starting with the removal of Argentina from the UN,
And the rest of these hypercrits,
Reference (page 5 of draft agenda):
www.un.org/ga/search/view_doc.asp?symbol=A/AC.109/2012/L.2
Video clip of 14 June, Hon. Mike Summers OBE of the Falkland Islands Legislative Assembly, Sir Mark Lyall Grant, Permanent Representative of the United Kingdom to the United Nations - Media Stakeout:
goo.gl/BnSRd
From yesterday could you provide a single example to demonstrate an instance of where your Queen spoke with clear rhetorical elegance and another separate example of where she made a true statement - (brilliant or dull. your choice) Don't read the next comment to 42, you'll only get upset again.
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Kirchner should sue the joker who did her neck. Looks like an invitation to play noughts and crosses. What a mess, surely she could wear a polar neck jumper or something.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 12:22 pm
If you want to see the original try: www.lanacion.com.ar/1481980-la-presidenta-ya-esta-en-nueva-york
This is 38.4 minutes of the most excrutiating rubbish ever put on TV, hopefully it will be Kretina's last public humilliation.
Her best bet is to take the money she's already stolen, sell her properties in Santa Cruz and BA and take a one way ticket to Venezuela or Angola or... anywhere but Argentina.
Nestor seemed more intelligent. But I guess a massive ego, lack of scruples and being in the right place at the right time goes a long way. Being highly motivated in the huge, sparsely populated back water of the Patagonia region probably helps too.
@46 No, no, no. We want more of Kretina's public humiliations. For best results, we should, in future, have CFK's bungling ineptitude first, followed by a Falkland Islands or British representative outlining every single “error”.
@47 You're using the wrong words out of context. What you should be saying is “What a decomposing president. When is she going to shuffle of her mortal coil?”
@48 No, I didn't “notice” that. I could listen but I couldn't watch. It was embarrassing that even a useless committee of a major international organisation had to sit there and listen to it.
I would say,if she wants dialogue it has to be through the FIG , I would also say the lies, rhetoric and propaganda are damaging UK trade and relations with the rest of South America.I was disappointed with Chile,considering it was next on the invasion list in 1982.
We just have to sit this out, Argentina has more pressing problems and these will come to a head very shortly.
twitter.com/#!/ArgieCFK
“Can we give you this letter inviting you to talk?
- NO!! ” Self determination doesn't apply to you ,its the new rules,we just made them up.”
And the UN has thus said nothing,
What does that say about the UN and your rights .
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So, a matter of great importance. It was very brave of The Mad Bitch of Argentina to wear that aiming mark above her left tit, wasn't it? :o)
www.un.org/en/documents/charter/chapter1.shtml
And a hero to deluded dictatorships all over the world .
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Just wondered if this was the reason she keep disappearing .
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Oh! if only I could talk to her, I would give her strong words of advice, “Immodium love, try immodium.”
72PB
Now, would that be the African or the European swallow?
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Then Maradona can come and mop up the floor. ;)
@72 I don't think you can take that line. As I read it, only some European and North American species of swallows are migratory. West and South African species are non-migratory. Surely this justifies Europeans and North Americans going to parts of Africa and claiming sovereignty!
@73 Oh good, an unauthorised incursion into UK airspace. Quick Reaction Alert Typhoons are on standby. We could use the AIM-120 AMRAAM missiles so we wouldn't even have to see him.
There was still something vital missing,
Oh yes I know what it was.
A Back bone
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Does the fact that the swallows nest in UK mean that we claim sovereignity over the countries they fly back to or are the fledglings an implanted population?
Life was so much easier with self-determination.
@73 The mental picture of that eggheaded weasel trying to even take off has me lolllliing.
Would the feathers glued on be donated from birds from every member of the C24 and OAS?
And as Argentina can't run a piss up in a pub would the feathers last 8000 miles?
Does this mean that Canada can claim Ptagonia and the Falklands by the Kirchner migratory birds thesis in international law?
—“How can Britain make a 'colonialist' claim over the Falklands when Argentina is so much closer?” —Hello! The history of several nation's colonies, shows plainly that distance is not a factor.
—Britain's stance is not 'colonial, and has nothing to do with its status in the UN, it is defending a UN charter that affords the right of “Self Determination”—which is a 'human right' that she says Argentina is a champion of.
—“Few nations have the kind of immigration freedom that we have.” Yes, because Argentina is short on brainpower for the 21st, century; but when it comes to taking a flight out, even for a holiday' you have to fill in a long form about what the hell you think you're up to. You're sniffed by dogs trained to bark at dollars in your wallet, to maybe buy a summer shirt in Florida, or open an account wherever a citizen, who's human rights are respected, should be able to (OK, not for tax avoidance like government ministers do).
—“...since she had the support of most Argentine political parties with congressional representation.” That's because, for now, Fernandez is acting like a Chaves type 'Democratic Dictator“, using power and threats to get her way.
Almost all Argentinians I speak to say, ”We're not interested in the whole thing, what the hell do we want with rule over three thousand beer totting Brits we can't understand, and three thousand sheep a horny shepherd wouldn't even drop his muddy draws for. Anyway, we've got enough troubles with Fernandez's policies taking our economy into an abyss.”
This incessant idiotic necessity of governments, religious sects etc. to kill, maim and ruin the lives of countless innocents to feed a false sense of 'honor', or in the name of self created Gods, just proves how humanity is hopeless at evolving in pursuit of happiness and harmonious coexistence. Simple only in theory!
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