Friday, June 15th 2012 - 06:19 UTC

Cristina Fernandez calls for an end to colonialism and blast UN Security Council

In a strong speech claiming sovereignty over the Falklands/Malvinas issue addressing the UN Decolonization Committee, Argentine president Cristina Fernandez called on the UK “to leave this history of colonialism behind and start building a new history based on dialogue” but at the same time blasted the recent announcement of a referendum in the Islands do decide on their political status.

A numerous delegation accompanied the Argentine president at her presentation before the C24 claiming the Falklands

“We are not asking them to acknowledge that the Malvinas Islands belong to Argentina. We are only asking that we sit down and talk. Can anyone in this time refuse to engage in dialogue?” asked the Argentine leader in a rare appearance before one of many UN committees normally covered by mid ranking diplomats.

The Argentine leader began her speech insisting “it was the dictatorship who decided to unilaterally begin the Malvinas War without asking Argentines for their opinion” and added that she did not stand there alone, since she had the support of most Argentine political parties with congressional representation, some of which “strongly oppose my Government, but even so they believe that colonialism and the defence of sovereignty supersedes that”.

The speech on Thursday June 14 coincided with the thirtieth anniversary of the end of the Malvinas war triggered by the invasion and occupation of the Falklands by Argentine forces in April 1982, which were ousted by a Task Force sent by then PM Margaret Thatcher.

“I’m here to ask for the humanitarian right. Our country is a human rights champion. Few nations have the kind of immigration freedom that we have. Few nations open their doors to citizens from all over the world like we do” she stated.

The president also reminded the committee that she had been joined by “war veterans and mothers war veterans who still haven’t been able to recover the remains of their sons and daughters.”

Cristina Fernandez then condemned the referendum that the Falklands have planned in order to determine whether the population wishes to remain British or become Argentine, and asked “when it comes to conducting a referendum, why don’t we have one in Afghanistan or Iraq and see what the people think about what they are doing there?”

She also blasted the flying of the Falklands flag; “When I saw the waving flag of the so-called ‘Falkland Islands’ I was ashamed, because wars are never cause for celebration or commemoration” she sated.

However her most heavy fire was against the UN Security Council, because the UK as a member can ignore compliance with dozens of UN and C24 resolutions and she underlined there are two categories of UN membership, whether you belong or not to the Security Council.

“The UK is benefiting from its privileged position as a permanent member of the security council of the United Nations,” she said.

Cristina Fernandez said that the UK/Argentina dispute over the Falklands is not a “bilateral issue”, but multilateral and does not only involve Argentina and the region “but has become a global issue” and challenged “how can the UK call the Malvinas British territory when it is 14.000 kilometres away from London?”

In support of Argentina’s claim Cristina Fernandez revealed that in the early seventies there had been secret negotiations with the UK, on London’s initiative, to share the Falklands as a co-dominion with the two flags, Spanish and English as the two official languages and alternate governors named every two years by the Queen and the Argentine president.

“The ‘non paper’ from the Foreign Office had five points for discussion” and was presented to the surprise of then President Juan Peron in May 1974, However “unfortunately President Peron died in July”, negotiations then collapsed and as the “Foreign Office had forecasted this was followed in Argentina by a military coup”.

“This means the UK admitted there was a sovereignty dispute and they were willing to discuss the issue and that is why we are requesting a resumption of the interrupted negotiations”, said the Argentine president.

Before Cristina Fernandez two petitioners, Alejandro Betts (born and bred in the Falklands but who left after the war to marry an Argentine girl) who lives in Cordoba and Marcelo Luis Vernet, a writer and direct descendent from whom Argentina identify as their first Governor of the Malvinas and allegedly was ousted by the British in 1833, made brief statements before the C24.

Contrary to what happened with the Falklands petitioners who spoke for the Falklands, lawmakers Roger Edwards and Mike Summers, the two Argentines received a warm clapping but with Cristina Fernandez it was a several minutes resounding applause and even congratulations from the chair of the C24 committee.

It must be said that Cristina Fernandez showed up for the speech with a numerous delegation of lawmakers, ministers, governors, mayors and Malvinas veterans’ organizations representatives, over 90 delegates, that turned the C24 presentation in a political rally of the clapping kind the president likes to organize back in Argentina.

Before speaking before the Committee, the President met with UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon.

 

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1 Xect (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 06:31 am Report abuse
What a speech, incredibly funny.

My favourite bit was her talking about geography and because the birds in the region don't fly over London its obvious the islands belong to Argentina.

As ever strewn by lies, half truths and more nonsense.

And as ever she doesn't recognize the people who have been living there for nearly 200 years which is why we know she was obviously joking about being a leader in human rights. We are a leader in human rights (when it suits us) and it doesn't suit us to recognize the human rights of the people of the Falkland's Island (because thats obviously inconvenient) nor does she recognize the most important right in the UN chapter of self determination.

As ever more selective nonsense and lies from the queen of corruption! Haha!
2 Boovis (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 06:34 am Report abuse
Usually you can tell when a politician lies because their lips move, but thanks to the wonders of Botox...
3 Beef (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 06:38 am Report abuse
If you want to claim soverignty then plant a turnip. How on earth can anyone have kept a straight face wheb she started talking about the growing of vegetables?

Rule Britannia.
4 Boovis (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 06:41 am Report abuse
“allegedly was ousted by the British in 1833” Hurrah, even mercopress is beginning to realise the Argies are lying sacks of horse refuse!
5 STRATEGICUS (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 06:41 am Report abuse
I like the point being made by most of the tv news channels that I have seen this on that the Argentine delegation of 90 people swamped the UN setup and comprised well over a third of the entire number of people in the room.
Typical Mafia tactics ;crowd out the room with lots of 'heavies'.
The Falklanders should have brought some pots and pans to remind the queen bee of her troubles closer to home.
6 Martin Woodhead (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 06:44 am Report abuse
Er cfk actualy celebrated the start of a war ,mind you they could hardly celebrate the end of it.
Maybe commerate the end of a truly uneccessary war and the loss of life on both sides:(
But then inconvenient facts
7 brit abroad (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 06:46 am Report abuse
Part one of my breakdown of her speech:

“We are not asking them to acknowledge that the Malvinas Islands belong to Argentina.” – So what is the purpose to sit down and talk?? oh and the falklands were refused, so!!!!!

“it was the dictatorship who decided to unilaterally begin the Malvinas War without asking Argentines for their opinion”
Perhaps True, but bit late now to start making excuses

and added that she did not stand there alone, - Errmmm I remember quite a few Rg academics who disagree

“but even so they believe that colonialism and the defence of sovereignty supersedes that” – I actual don’t believe this to be true. I believe other items of government must be more important……she is basically suggesting RG population take second place to her fight for Falklands

“I’m here to ask for the humanitarian right. Our country is a human rights champion. Few nations have the kind of immigration freedom that we have. Few nations open their doors to citizens from all over the world like we do” - don’t anderstand the point being made…guess trying to make RG’s look all kind and lovely????!!!Again, not relevant to the aguement at hand!

“war veterans and mothers war veterans who still haven’t been able to recover the remains of their sons and daughters.” – no one has ever impeded the recovery, if it is so desired! Again irrelevant, and using other peoples grief to pump herself up!

“when it comes to conducting a referendum, why don’t we have one in Afghanistan or Iraq and see what the people think about what they are doing there?” – (that one was for the Syrian representative) There is no comparison between the falklands and the middle eastern countries she lists.

“When I saw the waving flag of the so-called ‘Falkland Islands’ I was ashamed, because wars are never cause for celebration or commemoration” - ermmm, Monday, April 2nd 2012 - Cristina Fernandez leads main Malvinas war commemoration in Ushuaia
8 Martin Woodhead (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 06:48 am Report abuse
Thats why the general committee cant have nice things
9 Idlehands (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 06:54 am Report abuse
It's astounding that she can decry commemorating a war when she herself lead one on the date of the Argentine invasion by the junta she also disassociates herself from.
10 brit abroad (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 07:05 am Report abuse
Part twol

“The UK is benefiting from its privileged position as a permanent member of the security council of the United Nations,” - a bit bitchy, and she does not illustrate how!

Falklands is not a “bilateral issue”, but multilateral - Ok so need to sit down and talk with you then, better get every country in the world involved ….daft comment, and misleading as I cant see a huge amount of countries even running an article on the issues

“how can the UK call the Malvinas British territory when it is 14.000 kilometres away from London?” – Distance has no baring on the argument! If distance has anything to do with it then where do you stop! Does Cuba become American because its close? Greenland is Danish but should be Canadian, blah blah blah…oh French Guinea

“This means the UK admitted there was a sovereignty” – No it doesn’t and she is being a tad selective about her History, anyway that was messed-up by the Coup. Unfortunate, but now everyone is having to live with it! RG’s fault none elses!!

“why we are requesting a resumption of the interrupted negotiations”, so do blockades really help get people to discuss??? Turning down a falklands request to have a chat helps everyone think RG’s are lovely people (humanitarian hehe).
11 Boovis (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 07:07 am Report abuse
Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Kirchner. At least Hitler was a good orator, I wanted to see the floor in front of her desk to see how much crap actually made it to the floor.
12 Lord Ton (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 07:21 am Report abuse
The 1974 proposals were subject to acceptance by the Falkland Islanders.

Can't the Argies ever tell the whole truth ??

falklandstimeline.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/falklands-history8.pdf
13 GreekYoghurt (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 07:45 am Report abuse
@11 I know, it's been a while since I've watched someone try to present Hitler's Generalplan Ost to a sub-sub-sub-committee of the UN. I'm surprised that Brazil were on board with this, but then again Brazil seems to not really have much of a clue.

@12 They were subject to acceptance by the Falkland Islanders then, and they are still now.

You: “Can't the Argies ever tell the whole truth ??”
Me: “No, they're genetically and socially incapable of telling the truth.”
14 Jay (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 08:21 am Report abuse
Stop British taxpayers’ money supporting World Bank loans to Argentina:

epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/34551
15 Boovis (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 08:58 am Report abuse
@13: If they can't even play football without faking a dive, how can you trust them on an international political stage? I distinctly get the impression that it's a case of “it's not how you play the game, it's whether you win or lose”.
I feel like Colonel Blimp.
16 Be serious (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 09:03 am Report abuse
This UN Committee should be disbanded. Its expensive, ineffective and horrendously biased. How can a decolonisation committee cheer on a rogue state attempting to colonise a member states territory. Outrageous.

Well done those Falkland Islanders for presenting a clear and concise case. They behaved with dignity and courage. As for Kirchner, her rambling and overly emotional speech was badly conceived and littered with errors.

Mr Cameron's response was correct, to the point and sufficiently forceful.
17 reality check (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 09:29 am Report abuse
Now someone correct me if I am wrong. The UN was created at the end of a catastrophic war. The victorious nations in that war formed the Security Council, the council has the last voice on UN actions. Nations were invited to join the UN knowing the rules of the organisation, Argentina was one of them. Now that things do not go there way or will not go there way, she criticises those rules.
18 Pete Bog (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 09:30 am Report abuse
The Argentines attempts to bully the UN will backfire because at long last the Falkland Islanders have found their voice. It's the beginning of the end for this Argentine voice. When they find they can't stop the wheels spinning in the bog, they'll launch an attack on the oil rigs.
And will pay the price for doing so.
19 Idlehands (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 09:33 am Report abuse
The serious issue which I need to understand is what the hell was going on with her top lip throughout that entire speech? Has Leslie Ash donned a wig, slapped on a tan and taken up a new vocation?
20 Boovis (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 09:33 am Report abuse
@17: the council was set up as a necessary check and balance against each other i.e. they thought that between the ideologies involved the only passed resolutions would be those on which all agreed, hopefully the most moral ones and where no one party had a particularly vested interested other than the good of humanity. The council clearly split in two after about 1949 as China and the then USSR on one side and the Western Allies of France, the USA and the UK on the other. This has meant that basically no decent moral stand has been made on anything since it's formation and nearly every war since then has been with the council split along those exact same lines. Argentina knows this is the case and survives by playing one side off against the other, as it always has done.
21 reality check (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 09:36 am Report abuse
I agree, the Islanders should attend the UN at every opportunity, get in their face, show them that they do exist and this is all about their future, not the colonial ambitions of Argentina. Congratulations to the delegation, job well done, your fellow countrymen and women will be justifiably proud of you.
22 jeffski (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 09:40 am Report abuse
The United Nations Charter, Chapter 1, Purposes of the United Nations. Paragraph 2

”To develop friendly relations among nations based on respect for the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples, and to take other appropriate measures to strengthen universal peace;

Now FO you stupid woman.
23 GeoffWard2 (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 09:49 am Report abuse
Do you think it is a coincidence that the UN.C24 presentation by Argentina 'just happened' to be on the same day as the surrender by the Argentinian armed forces of occupation to the British?

The ceremonial activities to mark the return to self-government under the British Protectorate could have been damaged by such an Argentinian exposition were it not for the DoubleSpeak of both the Argentinian delegation and the C24 itself.
24 Boovis (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 09:52 am Report abuse
@23: not at all, CFK requested that day deliberately. She's a nutjob. It's like Germany asking for East Prussia back on November 11th.
25 GreekYoghurt (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 09:57 am Report abuse
@24 Correct. She's a complete nut job, and not very clever.

She doesn't realise that 11/11 is celebrated in a lot of countries in the free world, and just because Peron's BFF lost WW2 that somehow it shouldn't be celebrated? Is she not aware that their bank-note celebrates their winning of the Conquest of the Desert? They celebrate their wars of independence against spain?

She's just got no coherent thoughts.

Typical Argentine.
26 MichaelLocke (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 10:08 am Report abuse
Hah, that picture of them at the table. All they need is that Castro woman there to round out the A-Team of argie bellends
27 Idlehands (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 10:12 am Report abuse
I notice she is still wearing black too. How long is she going to carry on milking the death of her husband?
28 reality check (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 10:32 am Report abuse
She also blasted the flying of the Falklands flag; “When I saw the waving flag of the so-called ‘Falkland Islands’ I was ashamed, because wars are never cause for celebration or commemoration” she sated.

So she should be, she should remember who was responsible for it and that the commemoration is for the end of that war, the defeat of blatant armed aggression and the restoration of liberty.
29 Idlehands (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 10:34 am Report abuse
She should be even more ashamed that she led the “commemorations” of the start of the war only 70 odd days ago.

Seems to have a very selective memory.
30 PirateLove (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 10:35 am Report abuse
I wonder if her performance yesterday saved her reign after all that is the over-riding factor for her is to stay in power and to hand the throne to number one son.
31 GreekYoghurt (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 10:37 am Report abuse
@29 Very selective and not very clear.

@30 I doubt it, on the whole she made herself look a fool, surrounded by a bunch of clapping fools. It was ridiculous by all standards.
32 Idlehands (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 10:38 am Report abuse
Is she really planning for Maximo to be the next president?

Rice had it about right - Oh what a circus.
33 GreekYoghurt (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 10:53 am Report abuse
@32 yes, she's expecting Maximo to be next president. It is a family dictatorship after all.
34 Redrabs (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 11:06 am Report abuse
In other news CFK tells Bailiffs from the International Court of Justice to “Fu@k off” when asked to pay her country's fines from longstanding judgments.

Mrs CFK sped off to shops to buy several pairs of Jimmy Choos, Burberry Clothing and a new MINI forgetting they are all British.

CFK said import duties apply only to little people and not the members of the inner sanctum and finished by saying everyone should enjoy themselves by Kraft durch Freude
35 GreekYoghurt (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 11:14 am Report abuse
@34 She didn't bring up the fact they completely ignored the ICJ's discussions over sovereignty of South Georgia & co., and then completely ignored the judgement of the ICJ over Argentina polluting a shared river with Uruguay. (www.icj-cij.org/docket/index.php?pr=1891&p1=3&p2=1&case=135&p3=6)

That's before bringing up Security Council Resolution 502, which they completely ignored.

As a country, you can struggle to find somewhere that ignores the UN more than Argentina.
36 Redrabs (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 11:20 am Report abuse
#35 IMF Bank Manager requests a meeting CFK to discuss why her credit cards and overdrafts have not been paid despite numerous letters on the subject.
37 Conqueror (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 11:24 am Report abuse
Leaving CFK aside for the moment, who watched and listened to the Vernet klutz? The luvverly little homely touches like “her daughter couldn't yet walk” and the “planting of the orchard” even though trees are notoriously difficult to grow on the Falklands. And there was the “planting of the flowers”. I like flowers. Most people like flowers. Doesn't exactly give you any rights though, does it?
38 UKOwnsArgentina (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 11:54 am Report abuse
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39 Ramon (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 12:16 pm Report abuse
Why are the Falkland Islands, located in the middle of the South Atlantic an issue when French Guiana, glued to Brasil isn't?
40 British_Kirchnerist (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 12:22 pm Report abuse
What a brilliant speech, and what a contrast between my Queen's rhetorically elegant and brilliantly true statemts and the mediocre sniping of the haters on here, really helpful in reminding me I'm on the right side =) Btw some people said they saw it, is there a recording I can see? The highlights quoted here are good enough but I'm sure the whole thing would be even more edifying =) Viva Cristina! Ti amo mi reina, besos =)
41 GreekYoghurt (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 12:26 pm Report abuse
@40 Really? hmm.. really? [I didn't read your comment]

@37 Vernet was clearly upset that his forefathers expedition ended in epic fail and in response decided to read out a 70 year old lady's 'mills and boon' novel to the biased-committee. The worst thing was those of us who had to listen to it, and then the committee acting like it was historical fact.

They were just the words of a bitter bitter author who couldn't sell a book.
42 cLOHO (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 12:35 pm Report abuse
40 - you like them old and scatty then, must say i do like a mature lady, but not a deranged botox one with son fixations.
43 briton (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 01:03 pm Report abuse
All I can say is
CFK was right to slag of the UN as being useless,
And this stupid cowardly corrupt UN should back up its own resolutions,

Starting with the removal of Argentina from the UN,
And the rest of these hypercrits,
44 JohnN (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 01:32 pm Report abuse
So what happens today, 15 June, as that UN committee talks through the Falklands again - and then next week on 21 June when Falklands is the only theme on their plate for that day?

Reference (page 5 of draft agenda):
www.un.org/ga/search/view_doc.asp?symbol=A/AC.109/2012/L.2

Video clip of 14 June, Hon. Mike Summers OBE of the Falkland Islands Legislative Assembly, Sir Mark Lyall Grant, Permanent Representative of the United Kingdom to the United Nations - Media Stakeout:
goo.gl/BnSRd
45 Be serious (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 02:14 pm Report abuse
40
From yesterday could you provide a single example to demonstrate an instance of where your Queen spoke with clear rhetorical elegance and another separate example of where she made a true statement - (brilliant or dull. your choice) Don't read the next comment to 42, you'll only get upset again.
42
Kirchner should sue the joker who did her neck. Looks like an invitation to play noughts and crosses. What a mess, surely she could wear a polar neck jumper or something.
46 Simon68 (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 02:38 pm Report abuse
40 British_Kirchnerist (#)
Jun 15th, 2012 - 12:22 pm

If you want to see the original try: www.lanacion.com.ar/1481980-la-presidenta-ya-esta-en-nueva-york

This is 38.4 minutes of the most excrutiating rubbish ever put on TV, hopefully it will be Kretina's last public humilliation.

Her best bet is to take the money she's already stolen, sell her properties in Santa Cruz and BA and take a one way ticket to Venezuela or Angola or... anywhere but Argentina.
47 MurkyThink (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 03:01 pm Report abuse
What a discomposedly comments coil .... !!
48 razdaman (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 03:14 pm Report abuse
did anyone notice when she rambled on and on her face started to melt so in the end she spoke mostly out of her ass
49 GreekYoghurt (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 03:16 pm Report abuse
@48 I thought she was doing a handstand on the chair. Are you telling me now that she was sat upright and that was her face?
50 Tobers (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 03:57 pm Report abuse
CFK is clearly not a clever, intelligent nor composed person. How did she end up so rich and in charge of the country? I wonder...

Nestor seemed more intelligent. But I guess a massive ego, lack of scruples and being in the right place at the right time goes a long way. Being highly motivated in the huge, sparsely populated back water of the Patagonia region probably helps too.
51 Conqueror (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 04:00 pm Report abuse
@40 You're hilarious. I used to think you were a political incompetent. But then I realised you're practising to be a comedian. “What a brilliant speech”. Yeah, for five-year old. “I'm on the right side”. Are you old enough to drive yet? And what's this? You didn't see it? You missed your queer? Was it past your bed-time? So how do you know it was a brilliant speech? What a useless numpty! You had little credibility before. Now you have none.
@46 No, no, no. We want more of Kretina's public humiliations. For best results, we should, in future, have CFK's bungling ineptitude first, followed by a Falkland Islands or British representative outlining every single “error”.
@47 You're using the wrong words out of context. What you should be saying is “What a decomposing president. When is she going to shuffle of her mortal coil?”
@48 No, I didn't “notice” that. I could listen but I couldn't watch. It was embarrassing that even a useless committee of a major international organisation had to sit there and listen to it.
52 slattzzz (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 04:02 pm Report abuse
@40did you have loads of tissues whilst you were watching, I did i was crying with laughter bet yours were for another use though eh you winker
53 Pete Bog (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 04:19 pm Report abuse
@51 ref-@46- yes -appropriate if a FI stuck to her like a limpet abroad and challenged every inconsistency-or a persistent journalist acting like the trolley dolly did at that press conference with Hague-only challenging Mrs Botox.
54 Self Determination (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 04:34 pm Report abuse
She only lies when her mouth moves.
I would say,if she wants dialogue it has to be through the FIG , I would also say the lies, rhetoric and propaganda are damaging UK trade and relations with the rest of South America.I was disappointed with Chile,considering it was next on the invasion list in 1982.
We just have to sit this out, Argentina has more pressing problems and these will come to a head very shortly.
55 Tobers (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 04:40 pm Report abuse
It is a sort of war that Argentina is perpetuating. I think whats important is that The FIG counter the harrassment BUT it is far more important that the FI ers continue on with their lives. Argentina is trolling because they are so impotent in any other form. If Argentina sees the Falklanders are badly molested and affected it will consider that it as winning. The FIG have been doing an excellent job. Keep it up.
56 Tim (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 05:13 pm Report abuse
Vernet was not in the Falklands when the British arrived in January 1833; he had left more than a year earlier, on one of the American ships, the Harriet, which he had captured. And the genuine civilians who were still there in January 1833 were not expelled by the British - only the recently arrived garrison was. Vernet and his family left in November 1831 on the Harriet, thus provoking the raid by the USS Lexington a few weeks later. The Americans on that ship persuaded all Vernet's European settlers, and all but three of his black slaves, to leave - about 40 people. But these were not forced to go. The Lexington also took as prisoners seven more men who had been involved in the seizure of the American ships. So it was the Americans that removed most of the “population”, not the British. Neither the Americans nor the British forced the 25 to 30 gauchos to leave. The British were in fact keen that they should stay. Captain Onslow of HMS Clio, which reasserted our sovereignty in January 1833, had orders were not to molest civilians, and he wanted the gauchos to stay and continue hunting the wild cattle so fresh beef would continue to be available for visiting ships.
57 reality check (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 05:19 pm Report abuse
You are all a bunch of jammy b****rs, you seem to have watched the comedy broadcast of the decade. My computor would not play it for some reason, I am definately going to have to buy the DVD.
58 Mrlayback (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 06:04 pm Report abuse
I'm getting reports than an American Bald Eagle has just landed in Buenos Aires... CALL THE @UN. I claim sovereignty over the USA!

twitter.com/#!/ArgieCFK
59 Self Determination (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 06:05 pm Report abuse
“We are champions of human rights.”
“Can we give you this letter inviting you to talk?
- NO!! ” Self determination doesn't apply to you ,its the new rules,we just made them up.”
60 scarfo (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 06:14 pm Report abuse
On a side note any mention of who the top 30 ceo”s that kcf was reportedly going to have lunch with?
61 slattzzz (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 07:01 pm Report abuse
yeah they asked her to pay so she she did a runner blees her. Seriously now its time for William hague to come out and address the UN on this put the Islanders case across big time and actually tell the correct history. I watched a documentry last night called cross fire and two top American Historians battered a poor RGweener with facts leaving him red faced. They addressed the fact that oil is rgweeners driving force behind thier latest beligerence and posturing, left the poor git begging for some of BK's tissues albeit some were a little tainted.
62 briton (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 10:12 pm Report abuse
Considering they were blatantly lying, in front of the UN ,
And the UN has thus said nothing,
What does that say about the UN and your rights .
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63 ChrisR (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 10:27 pm Report abuse
Well, I see you have all covered the points of hilarity.

So, a matter of great importance. It was very brave of The Mad Bitch of Argentina to wear that aiming mark above her left tit, wasn't it? :o)
64 Frank (#) Jun 15th, 2012 - 11:05 pm Report abuse
@61... care to post a link ? Quite night here... need a laugh...
65 St.John (#) Jun 16th, 2012 - 01:50 am Report abuse
Charter of the United Nations
www.un.org/en/documents/charter/chapter1.shtml
66 Yomp to victory (#) Jun 16th, 2012 - 03:26 am Report abuse
Abject failure for Collagen Kirchner as the world's media largely ignore her pathetic whining and then rubs salt in her wounds by almost unanimously reporting on the Falklands by their proper name ... not whatever fairytale Spanish name it is she uses.
67 Conqueror (#) Jun 16th, 2012 - 01:29 pm Report abuse
@57 There's a couple of “snips” on youtube. She actually looks as though she's having an argument with a neighbour over a garden fence.
68 briton (#) Jun 16th, 2012 - 06:40 pm Report abuse
She is a disgrace to freedom and democracy,
And a hero to deluded dictatorships all over the world .
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69 reality check (#) Jun 16th, 2012 - 08:31 pm Report abuse
Yes, but at long last we know why she always runs off in a hurry and does not give any press conferences, man just think of the shit she would come out with?
70 GreekYoghurt (#) Jun 16th, 2012 - 11:19 pm Report abuse
She's the hero of homeless migratory birds everywhere.
71 briton (#) Jun 16th, 2012 - 11:52 pm Report abuse
Is it not true that she has to take her radiated plasticisation, every 12 hours, or she will start to melt?

Just wondered if this was the reason she keep disappearing .

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72 Pete Bog (#) Jun 16th, 2012 - 11:59 pm Report abuse
Do Swallows fly to UK from South Africa any bird watchers? I would just like to know which African country can now claim sovereignity over the UK.
73 Britninja (#) Jun 17th, 2012 - 01:31 am Report abuse
She's probably going to glue feathers to Timerman and command him to flap his way to London.
74 reality check (#) Jun 17th, 2012 - 09:03 am Report abuse
@71britian
Oh! if only I could talk to her, I would give her strong words of advice, “Immodium love, try immodium.”
72PB
Now, would that be the African or the European swallow?
75 Britninja (#) Jun 17th, 2012 - 02:20 pm Report abuse
How about hiding industrial strength laxative inside the Immodium capsules? Drowning in her own crap seems like a very appropriate way for her to go.

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Then Maradona can come and mop up the floor. ;)
76 Conqueror (#) Jun 17th, 2012 - 02:52 pm Report abuse
@68 No, she's not “a disgrace to freedom and democracy”. She doesn't even know what those words mean.
@72 I don't think you can take that line. As I read it, only some European and North American species of swallows are migratory. West and South African species are non-migratory. Surely this justifies Europeans and North Americans going to parts of Africa and claiming sovereignty!
@73 Oh good, an unauthorised incursion into UK airspace. Quick Reaction Alert Typhoons are on standby. We could use the AIM-120 AMRAAM missiles so we wouldn't even have to see him.
77 briton (#) Jun 17th, 2012 - 08:53 pm Report abuse
Despite all the mouth at the C24 ,

There was still something vital missing,
Oh yes I know what it was.
A Back bone
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78 Pete Bog (#) Jun 18th, 2012 - 09:58 am Report abuse
@74 I guess I mean the African one. But as there are European swallows as well, that presents more problems of sovereignity according to the Kirchener migrating bird sovereignity theory (backed up by the C24).
Does the fact that the swallows nest in UK mean that we claim sovereignity over the countries they fly back to or are the fledglings an implanted population?

Life was so much easier with self-determination.

@73 The mental picture of that eggheaded weasel trying to even take off has me lolllliing.
Would the feathers glued on be donated from birds from every member of the C24 and OAS?
And as Argentina can't run a piss up in a pub would the feathers last 8000 miles?
79 Simon68 (#) Jun 18th, 2012 - 03:46 pm Report abuse
To add a somewhat scientific turn to the thread; one of the phalarope familly, I can't remember which it is, migrates from Canada (maybe Saskatchewan) to Patagonia and the Falkland Islands.

Does this mean that Canada can claim Ptagonia and the Falklands by the Kirchner migratory birds thesis in international law?
80 Tim (#) Jun 18th, 2012 - 08:41 pm Report abuse
73 Britninja (#). You've had me pissing with laughter with your comments and I just love the bird migration theories. I still don't understand what these idiots want to debate; they can't debate what's in their Constitution.
81 Rogbahia (#) Jun 18th, 2012 - 09:11 pm Report abuse
I am coming late to the 'debate'; maybe it's already been covered, but Christina Fernandez's arguments seem pretty illogical to me:
—“How can Britain make a 'colonialist' claim over the Falklands when Argentina is so much closer?” —Hello! The history of several nation's colonies, shows plainly that distance is not a factor.
—Britain's stance is not 'colonial, and has nothing to do with its status in the UN, it is defending a UN charter that affords the right of “Self Determination”—which is a 'human right' that she says Argentina is a champion of.
—“Few nations have the kind of immigration freedom that we have.” Yes, because Argentina is short on brainpower for the 21st, century; but when it comes to taking a flight out, even for a holiday' you have to fill in a long form about what the hell you think you're up to. You're sniffed by dogs trained to bark at dollars in your wallet, to maybe buy a summer shirt in Florida, or open an account wherever a citizen, who's human rights are respected, should be able to (OK, not for tax avoidance like government ministers do).
—“...since she had the support of most Argentine political parties with congressional representation.” That's because, for now, Fernandez is acting like a Chaves type 'Democratic Dictator“, using power and threats to get her way.
Almost all Argentinians I speak to say, ”We're not interested in the whole thing, what the hell do we want with rule over three thousand beer totting Brits we can't understand, and three thousand sheep a horny shepherd wouldn't even drop his muddy draws for. Anyway, we've got enough troubles with Fernandez's policies taking our economy into an abyss.”
This incessant idiotic necessity of governments, religious sects etc. to kill, maim and ruin the lives of countless innocents to feed a false sense of 'honor', or in the name of self created Gods, just proves how humanity is hopeless at evolving in pursuit of happiness and harmonious coexistence. Simple only in theory!

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