Tuesday, June 26th 2012 - 06:32 UTC

Argentina/China sign a raft of agreements to boost trade and investment

Argentina signed with China a raft of mostly farm-related agreements at a ceremony on Monday in Buenos Aires attended by Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao and his Argentine president Cristina Fernandez.

Wen Jiabao visit coincided with the fortieth anniversary of the establishment of diplomatic ties

China is Argentina's biggest client of agricultural products and its second largest trade partner. Bilateral trade totalled 14.8 billion dollars in 2011, with 8 billion dollars surplus for China.

Argentina is the world's number one exporter of flour and soy oil, number three soy bean exporter, and number two corn exporter.

The two delegations also signed a nuclear energy cooperation accord and agreed on the terms of a Chinese loan to modernize Argentina's Belgrano Cargas railway network, officials said.

The low-interest loan package at roughly 2 billion dollars should help finance the modernization of a 1.500-km route that stretches into important soy-growing regions in the north of the country, the Economy Ministry said. China is a leading buyer of Argentine soybeans and soy-oil.

Argentina has three nuclear plants the last inaugurated in September 2011, and has plans for a fourth.

Other areas of cooperation include infrastructure, financial services, energy, polar regions research, oceans and environment, aviation and tourism, according to the delegation from Beijing. The two leaders also pledged closer people-to-people exchanges to create a stable, friendly and convenient environment for the development of bilateral ties.

During Wen's two-day visit, Argentina also hoped to draw Chinese investments in its oil industry, after having seized Spanish oil company Repsol's controlling share of YPF, Argentina's largest oil company.

At a ceremony Sunday in a museum opposite the presidential mansion, Wen hailed 40 years of bilateral ties as an “important milestone” and praised the “deepening friendship and trust” between Buenos Aires and Beijing.

“Under the current adverse world economic situation, China and Argentina must keep their markets open, understand each other and strengthen cooperation between relevant government agencies to properly resolve each other's concerns and promote the continuous and balanced growth of bilateral trade”, said the Chinese PM Wen.

Cristina Fernandez said China had played a “paramount” role in fuelling global growth over the past 10 years. She stressed that both countries have a “common vision on defending territorial integrity” and acknowledged China's support for Argentina's claim to the disputed Falkland Islands, which are administered by Britain.

Wen Jiabao has already stopped in Brazil and Uruguay during a four-nation tour of Latin America that concludes in Chile where he arrived late Monday.
 

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1 Self Determination (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 07:04 am Report abuse
Where's the oil deal?
“Deepening friendship”,no investment in oil, the Chinese aren't daft.More imports .
2 Xect (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 07:13 am Report abuse
I'd genuinely be interested to see if a oil deal is struck.

If not then Argentina must be seen as a rouge state given China and Russia are rather famous for raping countries for resources and getting deals that are severely in their favour hence the western worlds reluctance to enter these types of deals with them even if trade is high.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out and purely as devils advocate surely Argentina would be better to seek investment from SA if it doesn't want to work with western companies or they don't want to work with it. Although I guess only the largest countries/companies can put up in excess of 35bn.
3 Frank (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 07:50 am Report abuse
Argentina... the next Sudan.....
4 Eddieposted (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 09:54 am Report abuse
“Bilateral trade totalled 14.8 billion dollars in 2011, with 8 billion dollars surplus for China”.
And argentina has been whining about balancing trade with the US lol
5 Frank (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 10:17 am Report abuse
When China invests in oil it is so they can get the oil...why should they invest in oil production for RG home consumption?
6 Spainexpat (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 10:31 am Report abuse
FOGL have announced that Italian oil company Edison is the unnamed partner in Falklands Oil Investment.

falklandsnews.wordpress.com/

This is what happens when you have a law abiding democratic government - countries and companies want to invest. Argentina should take note......but they won't.
7 Self Determination (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 11:22 am Report abuse
@6
More good news for the Falklands..Argentina will be suing UK,France,Italy and it wont be long before the Americans and the big boys get involved in exploration.
8 cLOHO (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 11:26 am Report abuse
6 - Its owned by Frances EDF company. Good old frogs, thirty years ago they sold you excocets now they are returning to plunder your oil jajajajajaa froggy pirates etc etc
9 Bob Loblaw (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 11:26 am Report abuse
Aaaaaaaand now you belong to China.
10 cLOHO (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 11:30 am Report abuse
Yep the Rg's are teaching the Chinese their techniques in pushing nuns out of airplanes, how to murder ten thousand plus political prisoners and maybe how to murder an indigenous population. Chinas part of the deal ??? they own your @ss (sorry to get all american)
11 LEPRecon (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 11:31 am Report abuse
Hey, China have loaned Argentina money. I'll bet they won't see a return on that. On the other hand, I wonder what Argentina promised to give China as security on the loan?

However, the talk of nuclear energy intrests me. Has Cristina 'lets keep South America nuclear free' Kirchner changed her mind now that oil and gas production is so unpredictible?

As the Chinese say: we live in interesting times.
12 cLOHO (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 11:39 am Report abuse
she is militirsing SA with her nuclear weapons of mass destruction ...english pirates jajajajajaja
wonder how the retro fitting of nuclear reactors in the rusting hulks of the 20 year old subs argentina has is going, tick tick boooooom
13 British_Kirchnerist (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 11:43 am Report abuse
It seems the haters above can't decide whether its disastrous that Argentina has too much or too little to show for Cristina's discussions with China. Well as long as its disastrous, who cares about the little details! Anyway a lovely picture of Cristina, thanks mercopress - I wish she was more powerful than the Chinese but we have to live in the real world and thats what she's doing with this deal =)
14 yankeeboy (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 11:45 am Report abuse
Seems very odd that they would get a loan from the Chinese for road maintenance etc. Usually the Chinese “loan” $ to buy their goods. It speaks to the inability of Arg to find any U$ anywhere else. Venezuela, China, who are they going to borrow from next Iran?
hahaha
15 cLOHO (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 11:49 am Report abuse
13 I would say shes probably sold the family silver for a quick injection of much needed dollar. The longterm benefit will be to chinese who will own you. Any monies Argentina receives will as we know rest in maximos accounts and other corrupt officials.
So good news i say!!
16 briton (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 11:52 am Report abuse
She just couldn’t resist it,
Thank you for supporting us over the Falklands,

Well well well.

You have let your self down , the Falklands are British , and will remain British , and no matter amount of support from china will over turn that fact .

CFK has promised the earth , and come up with the leftovers , that her puppies fight over.

.
17 Room101 (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 12:26 pm Report abuse
Does the “raft” have a rudder.
18 Self Determination (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 12:37 pm Report abuse
@ 13 BK
Its a great deal for China ,$8billion trade surplus .They are throwing scraps at you.
Who is going to invest in YPF ????
Russia?“ Er no”,
China ? “ no fanku, deepening friendship ”
USA ? “Pay back what you owe us buddy”.
Brazil ?“ We would like to help but we are in deep sh with Petrobas for $250 billion
Mexico? Carlos Slim ”This is not an investment“
Spain? ”Repsol and we're broke“
Cuba ? ”We.ve been broke a long time,its socialism“.
IMF ? ” Sort out your 3o% inflation and peso.“
EEC ? ”Your trade barriers mean we have to sue you.”
THIS IS THE REAL WORLD !!
19 Conqueror (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 01:20 pm Report abuse
@13 And so we see the next steps in the creation of the People's Republic of
Ch(argent)ina. Wonder how many Chinese engineers, technicians etc they'll ship in. It will make it soooo much easier when argieland defaults and the Chinese start wandering around saying, “We'll take that....and that....and that. Never mind. We'll take it all and let you know what we'll allow you to use.”
20 rnbgr (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 01:24 pm Report abuse
The Chinese are very smart with the foreign investments they make. When they loan money directly to countries like Argentina that want to avoid “the markets” or the development banks, they usually tie it to a specific infrastructure, or service or commodity that involves chineses companies completing the work sometimes with imported chinese labor.

It will be interesting to see what countries/companies invest in YPF. Like other ocountries have found out its very difficult to “balance trade” once a major trade partner has a huge trade surplus with you.
21 catagom (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 01:31 pm Report abuse
Great comments as usual!

This is a great page exactly for the comments. The articles are just the pretext.

But, I can't believe you guys missed this knee-slapper!

“Argentina signed with China a raft of mostly farm-related agreements at a ceremony on Monday in Buenos Aires attended by Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao and his Argentine president Cristina Fernandez.”

Hahahaha!

I don't think it was deliberate. - just bad English and even worse editing.

But what a clunker! What a telling clunker.

Yes, she and Argentina itself, is already somebody's b*tch.

I spent 10 years in Argentina and have been saying this for years.
Here's the breakdown.

Argentina has lots of what the world needs. Soya, Copper, Water, Location*, and, lots and lots of Empty Space (ya know, Land!).

They also have lots of corrupt politicians willing to sell their soul to even the lowest bidder, an equally corrupt and clueless body politic, and no military to defend either one.

Then, you have China, India, Russia, Western Europe, and North America.
Al of whom need what Argentina has......

Let me ask the Argentinian readers here a qusetion.

Who do you think is gong to win?

(Sung to the melody of Quint's Song youtu.be/GVmeeYwEiQw)
“Farewell and adieu to you dear Argentinians. Farewell and adieu to you Argies in pain! For they all have designs to take over your country. And never more will we see you again.”
22 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 03:01 pm Report abuse
I think the Arabs will destroy your “civilizations” (it hurt to use that word to describe European, American, Chinese/Asian people) from within well before your dreams of Argieland domination are even fathomed in the real circles of power.

You very well know your days as western decadent nations are numbered. Within 30-40 years the muslims will have brought the end of you, and most likely of your lineage (all dead).

London will just be another Damascus.
23 Britninja (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 03:05 pm Report abuse
Lol, a ray of sunshine as always.
24 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 03:12 pm Report abuse
Well, if fanastical flights of fancy are the topic (and catagom's scenario is particulary quixotic), why not put forth one of my own.

Oh, wait, actually that one has plenty of basis in modern day reality.

If I were you brit ninja, I'd be trading the ninja suit for thawbs
25 Britninja (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 03:37 pm Report abuse
They look quite cool! If I have a black one I can pretend I'm in Harry Potter.

Meanwhile, you better start working out Tobi. I imagine pulling a rickshaw is tiring.
26 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 03:41 pm Report abuse
@25

I went skiing last weekend. Which is why I wasn't around for 4-5 days. Don't worry about my physical fitness.
27 Britninja (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 03:53 pm Report abuse
Did it take you the extra 2-3 days to dig yourself free after your little “human snowball” incident? :P
28 Beef (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 04:01 pm Report abuse
Edison (owned by French state energy company EDF) has joined in the FI oil exploration in a deal with FOGL.

Shhhhh, don't tell the Argies, they might cry, call the French insulting names or ban French flagged vessels from Argie ports.

Chuckle.
29 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 04:03 pm Report abuse
It's a mainly cross-country at a resort near the city, with some slow acclivity slopes. No snowballs, but I'm not an expert or avid skier as I readily admit. Its more a good time resort.

Sadly I did miss England's fantastic penalty kicks victory. First one in 100 years if I'm not mistaken. After going up 3-2 on the penalties, no way you could lose...
30 Condorito (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 04:34 pm Report abuse
For once I have to agree with half of what BK says.
This is good for Arg.

The Chinese will up their food imports, hence giving the Argentina the chance to narrow the deficit.

China will also be investing in the RG rail network – more dollars coming in, better infrastructure.

Many seem to forget that China has big problems of its own. They don’t come here (SAmerica) to dictate terms. They need to negotiate these kinds of deals on food to keep their own inflation under control. It is a bilateral win-win.

I wouldn’t be surprised if China invested in YPF or went in to some kind of a venture. China is expert at dealing in “risky” environs, just look at their massive investments in Africa.

I know that TTT won’t like the idea of Chinese investment but you can’t please everyone.
31 slattzzz (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 04:50 pm Report abuse
@30 DON'T ever agree with BK FFS we'll never shut it up and there will be a world tissue shortage
32 hipolyte (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 05:01 pm Report abuse
Thanks Popular Republic of China for being a good friend of Argentina and also to let the world know that your population of 1.600.000.000 is on the side of Argentina regarding the sovereignty of the Malvinas Islands.

I think the british who lives there at the Malvinas and some others in the UK will love to see this post.

Thanks a lot !!!
33 cLOHO (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 05:07 pm Report abuse
32... Don't think they have ever given support to argentine claims...classic rg troll spin. Think your find Rgland has plenty of resources to asset strip. Do some research and see what countries are the major trading partners, Rgland is an asset they have just aqquired, and hey you both have dodgy non democratic dictatorships...snap
34 Self Determination (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 05:07 pm Report abuse
Newsflash Argentina /Greece sign $35billion YPF deal .

Cristina “Im a great admirer of the way the Greeks mismanage their economy,in fact its the model on which ours is based”.
“Their credit rating is better than ours ,very pleased with the oil for ouzo deal”
“ I would like to thank Mr Papadopagotalotoutofus for his support over the Malvinas”“.Deepening friendship with the Greek people”.
35 Beef (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 05:13 pm Report abuse
Hipo - If they love you so much and support you then I suppose they are filling your universities to learn how be the best business people in the world?

That is what they are doing in the UK so I imagine it is the same in Argentina?

I would like to thank the French state and EDF energy for investing in Falkland Island oil exploration.
36 hipolyte (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 05:16 pm Report abuse
33, well, if you suty more, you will stop writing “” Don't think...“” I'm sure mate... I just write about things I'm sure, I do not post BS.

again just for you to read it again and remember it and to study about it. STUDY, DON'T BE JUST ANOTHER MISEDUCATED brit !!

Thanks Popular Republic of China for being a good friend of Argentina and also to let the world know that your population of 1.600.000.000 is on the side of Argentina regarding the sovereignty of the Malvinas Islands.

I think the british who lives there at the Malvinas and some others in the UK will love to see this post.

Thanks a lot !!!
37 slattzzz (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 05:49 pm Report abuse
Well HIppo I'm fookin ecstatic for you and I bet about 10 out of the 1.600.000.000 know were the Falkland Islands are and even less where rgenweener is.
Thanks a lot IDIOT
38 Conqueror (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 05:57 pm Report abuse
@22 Tut tut. Mustn't say anything against your new Chinese masters. They shoot people for that. But then you're used to that!
@26 Looking forward to your days in the paddy fields, are you? Still, up to your waist in sh*te will be quite normal, won't it?
@29 You can't have tv in the paddy fields.
@32 Remember the Korean War? Didn't do too well, did they? Faced by Brits, Americans, Australians, New Zealanders, they did what they do best. They died. Just like argies really.
@36 Since you like to label people MISEDUCATED, no doubt you'll be pleased to learn that the place is called the People's Republic of China. Where birth control is enforced by law, where homos are “enemies of the State”, where “free speech” gets you a prison term, or a tank down your throat. Forced labour is a way of life. Forget cars. The new “in” thing is the bicycle. The cops in their cars, all armed, can knock you over and run you over so much easier if you are on a bike. Enjoy!
39 cLOHO (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 06:28 pm Report abuse
36... If I suty more, what does that mean. You only post facts so the fact that china supports rgs claims on islands is incorrect means you are the uneducated one my troll friend. Ps you don't tell me what to say . I think maybe you did sudy at a state rg school we have all seen the utter bile and false history they teach the young. so please post a link to an official Chinese government statement that they support the lies that are the spurious rg claim....I await your truthful post, do some Suty...jajajajajaja
40 briton (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 06:38 pm Report abuse
Poor CFK
She is running out of ideas
Out of puff puff
Out of time
Out of friends
Out of support
But she did promise her people the Falklands,

Still with the help of china, she can just pretend she has the Malvinas , and hope no one notices .

then very quietly forgett about them .
41 cLOHO (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 06:40 pm Report abuse
Hippo study your junk economy, 30 percent inflation and ban on movement of dollars out of the country, defaulting to numerous countries. Pay your debts and look after your own rotting country.
42 briton (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 06:48 pm Report abuse
And so he says ???

Chinese

像羔羊屠宰,傻女人。
你的睫毛膏的运行,或者是你的塑脸哈哈。

mugs
43 Mrlayback (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 06:57 pm Report abuse
CFK will settle debt with bondholders, Interesting

“If Argentina wishes to pay off its foreign currency debts, it could do it with the use of the Central Bank reserves”, Fernández de Kirchner stated during a televised speech at the Government House.

www.buenosairesherald.com/article/104608/cfk-will-settle-debt-with-bondholders
44 briton (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 06:58 pm Report abuse
but he neant to say it in English
,,,,,,
like lambs to the slaughter , silly woman.
your mascara's running, or it's your plastic face ha ha ha .
....
sgum
45 Think (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 07:27 pm Report abuse
TWIMC

Good oil news for 99,97% of humanity……..:
Oil price down from 110 to 80U$S during the last quarter…….

Good oil news for us Argentineans ……..:
1) The lower oil prices are ruining the prospect of any eventual oil exploitation in Malvinas.
2) BOR is approaching TD and it smells D-U-S-T to me……….
3) FOGL ”farmed out” ~80 million U$S with a little Italian Energy Company, heavily invested in Greece and in a faulty nuclear reactor in California (FOGL shares climbed a whopping 1,15% due to that “Great News :-)

BAD NEWS for the Malvinas squatters, though………………
46 slattzzz (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 07:35 pm Report abuse
@43 ”if it wishes to, which means it won't
@45 News about an hour ago. A unit of France’s state-controlled power company bought a stake in exploration wells planned by Falkland Oil & Gas Ltd. (FOGL), undeterred by Argentina’s claim to sovereignty over the South Atlantic islands.

Edison International (EIX) (EIX) SpA , a unit of EDF, will receive a 25 percent interest in Falkland Oil’s northern licenses and a 12.5 percent interest in southern licenses off the archipelago that Margaret Thatcher went to war to keep British in 1982. Edison will pay drilling costs of about $50 million and make a separate cash payment of $40 million, Falkland Oil said today in a statement. Falkland Oil raised 48.5 million pounds ($76 million) in January and is fully funded for the two wells it plans this year targeting more than 4 billion barrels of reserves. The deal with Edison frees up about $100 million for future investments, Bushell said. SO EAT SHIT AND DO ONE
47 Joe Bloggs (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 07:36 pm Report abuse
36 Hipolyte

How many of the 1,600,000,000 Chinese do you really think have even heard of the islands? Under either name? What a stupid fucking thing to say. Are you sure you're not one of the other deadbeats from here with a reinvented personality?

How long before all the Malvinistas forget that they are from peaceful Argentina and start backing China to lend them the military support that they will never have themselves and that they say they would never want?

Chuckle chuckle.
48 slattzzz (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 07:39 pm Report abuse
Joe evening mate Hyprocryte is another blinkered fool a bit like think. Good news announced an hour ago see my above post mate
49 Joe Bloggs (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 07:45 pm Report abuse
48 Slatzzz

Good evening mate. Yep good news for sure. I was thrilled when I learnt it and I'm happy for my friends at FI Oil.

Actually I wouldn't be surprised if Hypo is Think. How many would that be for you now Think? Probably lost count.

Slatzzz, remind me mate. I can't remember which service you were in. I know you've mentioned lately but I can't remember. Was it RN? You're talking to an old Ginger Beer here anyway. A bit more rum than ginger these days though; strictly an SLR man.
50 Steveu (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 07:49 pm Report abuse
@45 I think you will find that the owners of the “little Italian company” are EDF - one of the biggest energy players in Europe!

Epic fail!
51 slattzzz (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 07:55 pm Report abuse
Joe yeah RN 28 years< perhaps you can expand your property profile with all that money
@50 Fail is thinks middle name
52 Think (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 08:01 pm Report abuse
TWIMC

FOGL “farm outed” with Edison, not with EDF.....

Interesting how the British turnips try to convert failed italian Edison in some Fine French Company….

Maybe because In 2011 Edison reported a net loss of 871 million euros after writedowns.

Birds of a feather flock together ...............

Chuckle chuckle…..
53 Joe Bloggs (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 08:03 pm Report abuse
51 Slatzzz

No, apparently we're not going to make any money out of oil because the price has dropped. LOL, the Malvinistas are really getting desperate now. Even the ones that know how it works and realise that saying there is no money in oil is just bullshit! I guess they put all their eggs into CFK's shitty little nest and kind of believed she'd get them through it. She'll be high and dry and counting her botox appointments while they're dying in the streets without gas.

28 years; good effort. I only did 9 but it set me up nicely and shaped the rest of my life. Some of my mates are generals and brigadiers now but even most of them have come out now. My best man is a brigadier. I never looked back though; life is good.
54 slattzzz (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 08:07 pm Report abuse
@52 Plain enough for you think or do you need it in big letters, read the first line numbnuts now stop whinging and admit your knackered.
You only have to google it and it's there in front of your eyes, unless of course Rgenweeners google will tell you some other propoganda.

The deal sees French utility firm EDF enter the Falklands.

Via Edison International – a company in which it owns a controlling stake – EDF will pay FOGL’s back-costs in the region of US$50 million and it will pay its own share of the costs for the upcoming drill programme. A US$3 million option fee had already been paid to FOGL.

Also Edison will pay FOGL an additional US$40 million in cash – with US$20 million being paid on completion of the farm-out and US$20 million due next year.
55 cLOHO (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 08:11 pm Report abuse
52... edf own them, oil will be flowing and rgs crying chuckle chuckle
Trolls leave this blog your on a looser, this is great news. Shame the rgs walked out on the joint agreement to develop oil field with uk.
56 slattzzz (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 08:21 pm Report abuse
it will be all over mercopress shortly...unless CFK says no
57 Think (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 08:25 pm Report abuse
TWIMC

As I wrote at (45).....:

FOGL shares climbed a whopping 1.15% due to the “Great News” of farming out ~80 million U$S to a little Italian Energy Company, heavily invested in Greece, in a faulty nuclear reactor in California and that reported a net loss of 871 million Euros in 2011:-)

Let's see the marked reaction in the next few days..............

Chuckle chuckle.........
58 slattzzz (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 08:51 pm Report abuse
Lets see your reaction when the oil starts flowing and you get a big fat zero per cent because your president is a self obsessed eglo maniac and bully, but heyhoo she'll be on a beach by then with Tinman serving her drinks and taking Max to the toilet, whilst you try to regain some dignity and dig yourselves out of oblivion. Think if you weren't so funny and up your own arse I'd say take your blinkers off and let the FALKLAND ISLANDERS enjoy thier soon to be wealth, all that fishery income and now oil, no wonder they laugh at you,I might ask Joe Bloggs to put a house aside for me to rent for all the tourists. Or maybe in St Helena when it becomes a huge tourist area due to the airport we are building for them, oh yes thier a BOT as well, surprised you haven't clicked on to that one yet. Well done EDF. If EDf made a loss of 871 million euros in 2011 how come Google says this. EDF Energy's profits trebled in 2011, figures revealed today.

The French utility firm reported a total income after tax of €3.01 billion (£2.5 billion), compared to €1.02 billion (£0.8 billion) in 2010.
So obviously your lazy and can't be bothered to do your homework or your internet is controlled by CFK and she only allows you to see what she wants.

CHUCKLE FUCKIN CHUCKLE
59 Xect (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 09:04 pm Report abuse
It's completely irrelevant what THINK is on about yet again with spurious suggestions of the future.

Argentine posters claim this, that and the other, yet it is still the UK as ever in full control of the situation and with nothing looking like it will ever change, yet our little cute, angry and vitriolic Argentine friends as they have been doing for the last 100 years or so claim otherwise and claim they are winning.

Meanwhile back in reality zero changes, the people of the Falkland Islands go about their lives and Argentine continues with its futile and ridiculous arguments and petty behavior, just business as usual I guess.
60 yankeeboy (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 09:08 pm Report abuse
Think loves to distort facts. It makes him happy.

Care to tell us what is going on in Chubut?Did they run out of nat gas yet in Bariloche? How do you think the country will recover from the lack of o/g being produced? Supply is already pretty tight.
Do you think these riots will spill over to BA tomorrow?
Exciting place you've got there!
brr
61 slattzzz (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 09:17 pm Report abuse
The French utility firm reported a total income after tax of €3.01 billion (£2.5 billion), compared to €1.02 billion (£0.8 billion) in 2010. Read it again Think thats Billions not millions, Not 871 million lose as you are being told I suggest you stop listening to propoganda and wise up
62 yankeeboy (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 09:39 pm Report abuse
Think where is my present for predicting 6/1 by eom June!!
Didn't you disagree with me about that a few months back. Call me crazy and uninformed blah blah blah
Hmm
Want to bet it's 16/1 by eom June next year ( conservatively)

BTW is it hard to find BMW parts with the import restrictions? Just using your horse now? I think that's going to be pretty common even in BA soon enough.

Brr
63 slattzzz (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 09:42 pm Report abuse
hello think where are you
64 Bob Loblaw (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 09:47 pm Report abuse
As many China enthusiasts are so keen to point out China is the 'new-super power' on the block. But hang about CFK and her mates Chavez and Amadine(jihad) hate super powers?

Why is this chinoiserie so different - are they not an empire, do they not aspire to supplant the USA? Do they not oppress Tibet? Are they not militarizing the South China Sea with their aircraft carrier?

CFK must have left her 'principles' at the clinic poor dear.
65 slattzzz (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 09:56 pm Report abuse
@64 but that don't count mate, we're all pirates, there will be a post about diego garcia shortly even though they know jack shit about the history or fook all
66 briton (#) Jun 26th, 2012 - 10:20 pm Report abuse
envy always comes from the losers,
followed by hate and anti british,

followed by greed and theft,

shame then they could not deal with there own problems, insted of condemming others ,
but then being puppies fighting over the scraps that CFK throws at them,
we can expect nothing less .
67 expbrit (#) Jun 27th, 2012 - 02:27 am Report abuse
Just got this link - funny :-) A bit off topic but still about RG.

www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AbAczriUDvU
68 Self Determination (#) Jun 27th, 2012 - 11:00 am Report abuse
Newsflash -
Argentina break trade agreement with Mexico over cars.
Mexico join the queue.....Along with Brazil,USA,EEC ,India,Japan.....etc,etc
Its most unlike Argentina not to keep an agreement,or repay a loan.
People are even questioning their honesty, how unfair.
69 cLOHO (#) Jun 27th, 2012 - 12:03 pm Report abuse
baby it cooooooooooold ooutside brrrrrr
70 briton (#) Jun 27th, 2012 - 12:28 pm Report abuse
The French today are joining others in the exploration of oil, in the Falklands,

As for the threats of legal action,
The French would only say,

If you piss into the wind, then expect to look like a wet drip .lol
71 MurkyThink (#) Jun 27th, 2012 - 01:43 pm Report abuse
Poor Britain is in need of French helpings.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1249531/We-living-broken-Britain-Most-voters-pessimistic-state-country.html
72 cLOHO (#) Jun 27th, 2012 - 03:17 pm Report abuse
71 - Iam sure BP would of jumped at the chance, but that would be a gift to your Reich Propaganda machine. So investment from another european power is quite welcome thanks, to get the black gold pumping.

Its more like poor / broke argentina selling the family silver to China, your new masters jajajajajaja
73 row82 (#) Jun 27th, 2012 - 04:06 pm Report abuse
Please join this new fb page - Falkland Islands Desire The Right - dedicated to Falkland Islands current affairs, keeping the islands free and poking fun at the loonacy of the Argentine government and their various claims and their internet trolls - www.facebook.com/Britain1592
74 briton (#) Jun 27th, 2012 - 06:04 pm Report abuse
71
Poor Britain is in need of French helpings
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Poor Argentina is in need of help from china.
And pissing of everybody else along the way .
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75 Sg.caroprese (#) Jun 27th, 2012 - 06:11 pm Report abuse
I am argentine. I think China is the second economy of the world and they grow so fast because of their tradings. I don't believe CFK is doing well as a president, but is doing better than Obama, who is destroying USA inflating the economy and generating a globe which is going to explote possibly next year. You are watching and economy ilussion right now, the problem wasn't solved, so the problem will be incremented. I guess Romney will make a much better job than Obama (not the best).

About Falkland Islands:
If I was the president of Argentina, I beg for military help to Venezuela, Perú and Brazil and I get back the islands.

Land:
Yeah. We need population. Sadly, we are getting the worst population ever. We were europeans in South America, and now we are transforming in Latin Americans. We must stop that.
76 cLOHO (#) Jun 27th, 2012 - 06:15 pm Report abuse
CFk......five dollar ....five dollar love you long time....selling her country for a bag of cash that unfortunately none of the freezing argy citizens will see.
77 briton (#) Jun 27th, 2012 - 06:35 pm Report abuse
75
the islands are british.
78 cLOHO (#) Jun 27th, 2012 - 08:01 pm Report abuse
Trolls have deserted this one is it bye bye time, or perhaps new orders from la camping de maximo to change topic, it must be exciting being a troll.
79 Sg.caro (#) Jun 27th, 2012 - 09:07 pm Report abuse
The islands are British by the moment. We're going to get them back.
80 briton (#) Jun 27th, 2012 - 09:23 pm Report abuse
no you are not, sorry
81 Alexei (#) Jun 28th, 2012 - 08:35 am Report abuse
“You give us your natural resources, we'll send you lots of mass-produced shiny trinkets”. Ironic this is what the original Spanish settlers said to the indigenous inhabitants. We know what happened next. What goes around...
82 LEPRecon (#) Jun 28th, 2012 - 11:26 am Report abuse
@75 - Sg.caroprese

You sound like a coward. Letting someone do they fighting for you. Pathetic.

Your Dear Leader has already tried begging Brazil, Chile, Venezula and Peru to help her, and it's got her nowhere, just humiliated Argentina on the world stage.

Why should they send their young men to war against the British? Just what is in it for them? If they ever did, and you did somehow invade the Falklands, why should the countries you have mentioned give them to Argentina? After all they would've been the ones to sacrifice their people for them, so they should get the spoils.

None of the countries you mention would risk what amounts to an all out attack on a NATO member. Remember that the UK could invoke article 5 of the NATO charter, and the other members would come to our assistance, as they would see this 'hypothetical' union of South American nations attacking one of their members as unfair and dashed unsporting.

If Argentina wants the islands then man up and try to take them from the British, one country against another. Don't be cowards and hide behind Brazil, Peru and Venezula.

But don't expect a happy ending, just expect even more humiliation like you suffered in 1982.

Next year the legal owners of the Faklands will hold a referendum under the auspices of the UN. Once that result is known, they should then lobby the UN to remove them from the decolonisation list, as they will have met one of the options listed by the UN.

Argentina will then be told by the international community to STFU, and stop trying to steal land that doesn't belong to you. I also foresee that in the not too distant future, the Falkland Islands will become completely independent, and become the newest member of the UN.

And all Argentina can do against international law is stand by impotently and cry.

Here's a hint for Argentina. Stop looking at the past, look to the future, maybe then, one day, the world will start taking you seriously.
83 Sg.caro (#) Jun 28th, 2012 - 12:16 pm Report abuse
The Islands are southamericans, not British. That's the reason why we beg for help to southamerican countries. We are not prepared for a war right now.
The islands are British because you stole them many years ago, and obviously now the habitants are British.
You are a group of Jack Sparrows. I guess that's less respectful.
84 Simon68 (#) Jun 28th, 2012 - 01:29 pm Report abuse
83 Sg.caro (#)

The Falkland Islands are NOT South American, they are in the Western South ATLANTIC.
They are British not because the British took them in 1833, but because the people that live on them VOTED to be British.
There are a large majority of voters who wish to be British because we, during the 150 years of unimpeded immigration to the Islands DID NOT GO THERE.
We lost our opportunity to rig the vote. In other words we f**ked up again as we usually do.
We cannot blame the Brits, the Yanks, the French or anybody else, it is all our own fault, and we have to live with it.
85 LEPRecon (#) Jun 28th, 2012 - 01:58 pm Report abuse
@83

You seem to like being humiliated on the world stage with all that begging. No wonder no one takes your country seriously.

But as I stated before, what's in it for Brazil? What would they gain by pissing off the British, the EU, the UN and the Commonwealth? For what? So Argentina can steal land from people who have lived on the islands for the past 180+ years? Longer than Argentina existed? Since before Argentina annexed Patagonia?

Just what rights do you think you have that can over-rule article 1 of the UN charter?

Argentina shall never gain the Falkland Islands. They will either remain a British Overseas Territory or become completely independent. Argentina burnt all it's bridges when you invaded in 1982, terrorised the population, showed complete disregard for human life by randomly scattering land mines and not marking their position (which is against international law), and when you finally realised you were losing the war your brave soldiers booby-trapped the school desks with explosives.

And don't say it was the 'Junta' because we all remember the cheering crowds in the Plaza de Mayo on 02 April 1982. We also remember the crowds in the Plaza de Mayo on and after the 14 June 1982, calling your soldiers cowards and demanding that they return and fight to the death.

Why should the Islanders ever have ANYTHING to do with a country that has done that to them, and refuses to acknowledge that what it did was wrong?

Argentina can keep on crying and BEGGING but no one if any import is listening to you. But don't worry you still have your friends: Angola, Syria, Iran, Venezula, China; those paragons of human rights and virtues.
86 Forgetit87 (#) Jun 28th, 2012 - 03:47 pm Report abuse
And the UK is a paragon of human rights? Chagossians, Iraqis, Blair, you know the story. I'd much rather be Iranian or Chinese than Britard.
87 Sg.caro (#) Jun 28th, 2012 - 04:36 pm Report abuse
Someday, my country will be respected again.
88 LEPRecon (#) Jun 28th, 2012 - 05:20 pm Report abuse
@86 -

Same old, same old.

The Iraqis have no problem with the British and Americans booting out the murderous regime. They now have democracy, despite some terrorist groups trying to disrupt things.

If the Iraqis have a problem they can always take it to the ICJ.

The Chagossians? An implanted worker population who couldn't survive once the plantations left as there is no naturally occurring water on the islands. They would have all eventually had to leave or die.

However, the British transplanted them and gave them compensation.

Now, let's see: Argentinians massacred native south Americans, committing genocide and ethnic cleansing, and gave these Amerindians what? Oh that's right, nothing.

The Argentine military 'disappeared' 30,000 of its on people, which some Argentinians are still fighting to get to the truth and bring those responsible to justice.

And now your hanging out with the likes of Syria (currently massacring it's own people including women and children), Iran which is currently oppressing its people and 'disappearing them, China which executes up to 20 dissidents per week, and is occupying Tibet and attacking monks and the people alike.

Yes, good role models for Argentina, the world will surely 'respect' you for simpering at the heels of these dictators.

@87 - Sg.caro

When was your country ever respected?

You break international treaties and laws.
You put unilateral trade tariffs in place.
You steal companies by supposedly 'nationalising' them, then change your constitution and apply it retrospectively.
You lie on the international stage by claiming that the British removed an Argentine colony, when we have proof that we didn't, you cry and play the victim.
You defile war memorials.
You try to bully and terrorise 3,000 innocent people and put in place illegal sanctions.
You try to steal their land, when they and their ancestors have lived their longer than Argentina existed.
And now you're reduced to begging on the international stage.
89 briton (#) Jun 28th, 2012 - 06:48 pm Report abuse
87 Sg.caro (#)
Someday, my country will be respected again

[what part of theft lying , abuse , threatening , aggressive , ]
Do you not understand?

Your country has more chance inventing time travel, than you have of getting the British Falklands or any respect , you think you may have .

[respect, has to be earned my friend , not stolen ]

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90 Forgetit87 (#) Jun 29th, 2012 - 01:07 am Report abuse
#88

Why do you need to write such a long response to “same old, same old”? I'm not going to read your claptrap. Learn to be concise.
91 Simon68 (#) Jun 29th, 2012 - 01:54 pm Report abuse
90 Forgetit87 (#)

From the quality of your posts, I don't think you CAN read!!!!
92 Forgetit87 (#) Jun 29th, 2012 - 05:26 pm Report abuse
And you can't write or reason. We should form a band. :-)
93 Rosarino (#) Jun 30th, 2012 - 04:44 am Report abuse
Simon 68: Malvinas is part of our ZEE and is in SOUTH AMERICA. If you need a GPS, I recommend buy new one-

Recalculando...recalculando----

What a joke!...i´m sure you feel those islands more close to Southampton than Argentina...

Drink other kind of liquor my friend...don´t try extract alcohol from algas...you must become a kelper-

By the way guys: MERCOSUR declare today AGAIN ilegal your flag...ILEGAL...and Mr. Piñera himself stay on the meeting.

ILEGAL- SOUTH ATLANTIC_ NO RIGTHS for britishhhhhhh peopleeeee livingggg innnn ourrrrr landddddd---

Regards
94 Simon68 (#) Jun 30th, 2012 - 04:12 pm Report abuse
93 Rosarino (#)

I find it rather hard to understand what you are trying to say, but it seems to be something about the Falklands being in South America.

Wrong. The Falkland Islands are in the South Atlantic, Argentina is in South America.

Mercosur WAS a trading bloque, therefore has no competence over the legality of national flags. I say Mercosur was a trading bloque because as from yesterday it ceased to have any relevance in world trade.
95 briton (#) Jun 30th, 2012 - 07:52 pm Report abuse
93
can you define =Recalculando...recalculando
thanks,

oh as for the flags,
the telly tubbies have requested the return of their flag you argies stole of there show,
thanks

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