Company confirms abundant gas condensate in south Falklands and prepares new drilling program
Shares in Borders and Southern soared almost 20% on Thursday as the company revealed positive findings from the analysis of condensate fluids from its Darwin discovery well in the south of the Falkland Islands where it plans to continue appraisal drilling in 2014.
The well 61/17-1 initially disappointed as it discovered gas and gas condensates rather than oil. However, the discovery’s potential commerciality was boosted by the news released on Thursday that the company is estimating Darwin could have between 130 and 250 million barrels of recoverable gas condensate.
“The initial condensate yield from the Darwin gas samples, as measured in a laboratory separator test, varies from 123 to 140 stb/MMscf. The API gravity of the condensate is 46 to 49 degrees. Based on the condensate yield and ongoing reservoir modelling, the Company estimates the recoverable volume of condensate to be 130 to 250 million barrels with a mid case of 190 million barrels” said the release.
Borders and Southern believe the findings have ‘exciting implications’ for its prospect and lead inventory, and it is now planning its next drilling program to further appraisal the discovery.
Discussions with a seismic contractor regarding the acquisition of additional 3D seismic are said to be in progress and the company plan to have a vessel in the Falklands at the start of 2013 to commence the survey.
“This survey will focus on similar prospects to Darwin currently outside our existing 3D area. Whilst the final costs of the 2012 drilling program will not be fully known until after the demobilisation of the rig later in the year, the Company can state that it is fully funded for the 3D seismic acquisition and processing, the reprocessing of the Company's 2007 3D seismic data and all the technical studies that need to be undertaken on the samples collected from the two wells”.
The company says that given the encouraging results from the Darwin well, they will start planning the next drilling program, which is likely to include both exploration and appraisal wells. Borders and Southern said that the timing of drilling will be dependent on rig availability but realistically this will not occur before 2014.
According to Borders and Southern they are currently exploring the best way to fund the next phase of the programme, including the possibility of now bringing in partners.
Borders & Southern Petroleum plc is an oil & gas exploration company listed on the London Stock Exchange AIM (BOR). The Company operates and has a 100% interest in five Production Licences in the South Falkland Basin covering an area of nearly 20.000 square kilometres. The Company has acquired 2.862 km of 2D seismic, 1.492 square kilometres of 3D seismic and drilled two exploration wells with the Leif Eiriksson rig.
The rig is currently drilling for Falkland Oil and Gas Ltd. at the Loligo exploration well 42/07-01, Friday 3 August 2012. The well is located approximately 200 km east of the Falkland Islands. FOGL is the operator of the well, holding a 75% interest, together with its joint venture partner Edison International Spa who hold the remaining 25% interest in licence PL028. It is the first of a two well exploration program using the semi submersible drilling rig.
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But wait, is that the noise of a law suit wending its way from BA? Is it the sound of Argentina and Venezula drilling? Nope, it's just impotent silence. JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA!
Oh the coffin is needed. Eventually the Argentine people will wake up and smell the coffee. Then they'll want to bury CFK, it old be a pity to let a perfectly good coffin go to waste. :0)
All that will happen now is that more and more international oil & gas companies will join the exploration and production of these fields. With oil and gas on offer and the possibility of greater reserves than the North Sea, every major international oil company in the world will be salivating at the prospect of lots of new discoveries.
When they start rationing oil in Argentina, then it will dawn on the Argentine people that their government made a bad, very bad decision.
Note to the Falklanders who read this blog, these aren't good associations to have in the world, especially your part of it
@7 National socialism has some pretty unsavoury worldwide connotations too and is undoubtedly more to be avoided than associations with FIG, UK and capitalism.
Happy days indeed the people of the prosperous Falkland's Island's just got a whole lot more prosperous.
More good news for the people of the Falklands and more bad news for the silly Argentine government.
“...under the agreement, Britain would obtain 66.6 percent of earnings on any oil or gas discovered in waters to the east of the Falklands, and that Argentina would receive 33.3 percent of the remaining earnings.
The newspaper said Argentina and Britain would equally divide any earnings on oil and gas discovered in waters to the west of the Falklands. Licenses to exploit waters to the east would be granted by Britain, the paper said, and licenses to exploit waters to the west would be awarded by a joint commission.”
Looks more and more like it was a real stoke of genius to shred that deal for a few, not so cheap anymore, political points.
Accept the facts, no money, no class, keep the islands in your ARSE
lol
When will you people get it into your heads that the resources in Falkland waters are OWNED by The Falkland Islands Govt.
Exploration is licenced by The Falkland Islancds Govt
Revenues will accrue to The Falkland Islands Govt.
This might seem pedantic but, as a UK resident, citizen, subject and recipient of a Crown pension, I wouldn't want the Falkland Islanders to think that they have sovereignty over the islands. Her Majesty does and she, her heirs and successors might one day need the oil money to pay my or Mrs DoD's pension.
Some of what you say is technically true, but the profits will be the Falklanders to do with as they wish.
The UK government may ask for the FIG to start contributing to the costs of keeping the military on the Islands, but that is about it. Many Falklanders have, in the past, stated that they would happily pay to keep the UK military there, so it wouldn't be a problem.
Is there anyone from the Legislative Assembly who can clarify this, because I believe both dover and I are guessing.
Have fun living in fantasy land!
Yes I think it would be interesting to hear from someone who will certainly have far more knowledge than me on this subject.
Executive authority56.—(1) The executive authority of the Falkland Islands is vested in Her Majesty.
(2) Subject to this Constitution, the executive authority of the Falkland Islands shall be exercised on behalf of Her Majesty by the Governor, either directly or through officers subordinate to him or her.
and:
There is reserved to Her Majesty full power to make laws for the peace, order and good government of the Falkland Islands including, without prejudice to the generality of the foregoing, laws amending this Order or the Schedule.
So, perhaps some of our fellow posters might apply some moderation to their assertions when it comes to who owns what in those places were Crown writ runs.
Hope that helps.
More fantastic news in the “pipeline” so to speak.
This would be hurting his ego badly.
Oh well, he can always go back to turnip farming.
l heard that he's quite good at it. lol♥
I guess it is possible the British Govt may request additional monies for what will likely be an increased defence posture but do you have any specific precedents you would like to share with us.
Are you telling me someone who is Jewish cannot be a National Socialist? How do you explain the Israeli gvt?
You can't have any precedents in the FI for the obvious reason that the revenue isn't flowing in fast enough yet but if you can broaden your geographical and historical focus history is awash with precedent relating to the Empire.
Closer to home and today, take a look at the Manx Common Purse and it's contributions. Also at Jersey and Guernsey. These contributions don't just cover defence and they are influenced by the ability to pay for “services available and provided”. That includes a contribution to fixed costs to. As the oil money flows into FIG expect the pressure for a voluntary contribution to the Crown's providing agencies.
All this once the politics and the funding flow have been secured.
Add to that our own Squadron of Typhoon DEFENCE fighters and we would be pretty safe. We could offer training facilities for fighter pilots at MPA as a contribution.
Catch the recruitment video on You Tube search “Falkland Island Defence Force” latest listing tab.
AHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
It seem the cameron cronies want to make more money out of thin air.They should give them the nobel prize for crookedness....
The piece of the Constitution that matters is section 1(a) which says “all peoples have the right to self-determination and by virtue of that right they freely determine their political status and freely pursue their economic, social and cultural developmentand may, for their own ends, freely dispose of their natural wealth and resources...........”.
It is this clause that confirms that the natural resources of the Falkland Islands belongs to the Government and people of the Falkland Islands. Colonial sequestration is not an option.
If that were the fact I think that is uneccesary unless LibyaAfghanistan, Irag, Sierra Leone and any country the Uk has intervened to help, also reimburse costs.
Let's not forget the money the Falkland Islanders raised for the Uk in the Second World war and the Islanders who served in the UK armed forces and died in two world wars.
I am sure the islanders will contribute more to UK defence costs as they make more money, but the oil money will needed for them to develop more economic ventures to ensure future prosperity.
It is important to note that unlike several South American countries, the Falkland Islands do not recieve aid from the UK and fund their own development. This funding is necessary as the UK neglected the Falkland Islands for many years but 1982 woke the UK government and the 'Foreigners Office' up.
And stating the' bleedin obvious', if Argentina were not belligerent and a trustworthy country, the defence expenditure on the Falklands would be uneccesary.
It is wholly the Argentines fault that the UK military are in/around the Islands.
Their bad.
Good post I agree.
There is no need for the Falkland Islands to cover the costs of the 1982 liberation, as that is the remit of the UK Armed Forces, to protect British Citizens and British interests around the world.
Maybe 1982 was costly in lives and in monetary terms, but I have not yet met one Falklands veteran who didn't believe the whole thing was worth it went they saw the looks of relief and gratitude on the faces of the Islanders who were liberated. Certainly the British taxpayers of the time expected nothing less from the British government and the Armed Forces.
After all, protecting the lives and property of British civilians is the reason the British Armed Forces exist, is it not?
As for any oil revenue. I believe it belongs to the islanders. Whether the FIG want to contribute to the costs of defending the Falklands, is up to them, but as I believe that it is a matter of honour to them, I'm sure they'll willing contribute.
@7 Note to the Falklanders who read this blog: This is called a desperate lie. Have we (Britain) ever let you down? I mean really let you down? When you needed us, we were there. It's the way it will stay! And, as an aside, CFK's “support” is starting to fall away. And the whole of LatAm can't match the UK. Just remember that, in '82, we sent 5% of our forces. Just 5%!
@15 You mean that you don't think!
@27 I am a true Briton “but, as a UK resident, citizen, subject and recipient of a Crown pension” the Falkland Islanders are welcome to it all. You might remember that HM Government is “an agent of the Crown”. I understand the technicalities etc. but what “services”, apart from the military, does “the Crown” provide to the Islanders? Look at it this way. When you, unwillingly, force your hard-earned 50p into the parking meter, what part of it does HM Government get? The Falklanders have said, more than once, that when they have the money they are more than willing to fund the British military presence. That's fine. But we should also remember that our forces conduct training and manoeuvres on their land. Land that they have hung on to, tooth and nail, for over 200 years. If we used such land elsewhere on the globe, we would have to pay for it. So let's have a nice, amicable agreement as between British people. They get the revenues, they pay for the military, less a suitable amount for use of their land, and I'm more than happy.
@33 The FCO are not to be trusted. Their, or perhaps it's, policy has always been: Foreigners first.
@34 Gurkhas - lovely vicious people. But Typhoons are expensive. Might be better to stick with catapults until the argies come up with something worth calling an air “force”.
@36 Accurate description of an argie: Powerful legs, no dick, shaking limbs, drooling mouth and green eyes. Oh, and a white flag that “can” have a red cross!
“Her Majesty does and she, her heirs and successors might one day need the oil money to pay my or Mrs DoD's pension.”
Firstly, Her Majesty does not have any fiscal responsibility to the UK Govt. Secondly, Her Majesty pays taxes TO the govt.
AND, do you really, really think that if any future UK govt. managed to get their hands on the Falklands (there are STILL no Malvinas) oil revenues that they would use it to pay your pensions????
I am a Brit, retired to Uruguay and the one thing I have learnt in my 66 years is this: NEVER, EVER, TRUST ANY UK GOVT.
The cnut Brown did for 48% of my net worth, and that in just six years.
So some indication from the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man but nothing specific and nothing specific to the Falklands Islands.
I note your assessment of the MOD and FO. Just doesn't sound much like the pleasant old duffers who run the British MOD and FO today.
I'm happy just to get the pension wherever the cash comes from. That's just as well because my payment slip doesn't tell me where the money actually comes from each month. Oh and as long as they go on ffunding the NHS as well.
Couldn't agree more, I would love for us to be paying for our own defence rather than England footing the bill.
Hate to be pedantic but England doesn't foot the bill, the United Kingdom foots the bill, that includes the Welsh, Scots and Irish as well as the English.
and thats f...n' islands are our, you like or not you know ilegal okupa!:www.telam.com.ar/nota/35867/ greetings!!!!!!!!
I did very carefully use the word BRITISH!
I agree the “dead cow” is a good prospect.
Bet Repsol are delighted for you.
“The writing indicates Moshiri showed interest in allying with YPF in the draft of a non-conventional gas cluster that the Argentine oil company plans to develop at the site of dead cow.” “Dead cows, eh?
And your second link. Wow! Gaucho Rivero. The murderer. ”In August 1833, under the leadership of Antonio Rivero, a gang of Creole and Indian gauchos ran amok in the settlement. Armed with muskets obtained from American sealers, the gang killed five members of Vernet's settlement including both Dickson and Brisbane.“ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Rivero
Such lovely ”heroes“ you have! Shall I mention that the survivors of Rivero's massacre fled to nearby Peat Island. Rivero was of course captured by Lieutenant Henry Smith of HMS Challenger and sent for trial in London where he should have been hanged. However, legal complexities at the time meant that he had to be released and sent to Rio de Janeiro. I am not surprised that you have a common murderer as a hero. Let's look at another argie ”hero“.
”Julio Argentino Roca, in contrast to Alsina, believed that the only solution against the Indian threat was to extinguish, subdue or expel them.
Our self-respect as a virile people obliges us to put down as soon as possible, by reason or by force, this handful of savages who destroy our wealth and prevent us from definitely occupying, in the name of law, progress and our own security, the richest and most fertile lands of the Republic.
—Julio Argentino Roca,“
And thus to genocide. Lovely history you have. So on the basis that ”he who lives by the sword, dies by the sword“, you won't mind what we do, will you?
Should you consider even looking at our Islands, remember that we are quite happy ”to do unto you as you have done unto others. And you should also remember that the Islands were ours from at least 1765. So you know where you can shove your “claim”, don't you?
Greetings and luck!!
Argentina hasn't got the money to drill on shore let alone off shore. But never mind one of your friends will invest in YPF for you.
China - no
Iran - no
Syria - no
Angola - no
Venezula - yes, but we haven't got any money either.
Hmm, it's going to be difficult to drill for oil with no investors, no equipment and no specialists.
In the meantime, the true owners of the Falkland Islands, are celebrating the numerous investors in their gas and oil companies, and will soon be reaping the profits of the oil and gas revenues.
Argentina will still be crying and broke. Awww.
Maybe you should stamp your foot? Poor impotent gustbury.
”In other OGDs wasn't CT was it?
www.ambito.com/diario/noticia.asp?id=651309
Cristina claimed the Malvinas sovereignty claim over a tribute to Gaucho Rivero
www.ambito.com/diario/noticia.asp?id=651309
The strongest phrases Cristina Kirchner's speech in defense of La Campora
www.lanacion.com.ar/1502138-las-frases-mas-fuertes-del-discurso-de-cristina-kirchner
CFK: “We defend what belongs to everyone”
www.pagina12.com.ar/diario/ultimas/20-201799-2012-08-24.html
I luuuuv the humble, composed and British way in which you explain difficult concepts like truth and reality to the perfidious Albion Turnips….
I would suggest you to reread your books about modern history, specifically those about the doctrinarian bases of National Socialism….
Evidently you remember very little about the subject….
I hope you shorted today on our shared BOR treasure. I can see that the “Excellent News” have reduced our paper loss from 77% (we bought in at ~90P if memory serves me right) to a mere 65% :-)
I think you will find that we in the UK know rather too much about one form of National Socialism (actually I'm not sure that there is any other - it is just a question of degree) - particularly when the Channel Islands were occupied.
You can understand when we get kinda touchy about our islands being illegally occupied.
@56 If I said I had written “national socialism” (i.e. socialism in one very particular nation as opposed to international socialism) not National Socialism would that save me re-reading my history text books? You old blue collar poor as a church mouse international socialist you.
@56 Oh and Stebbing analysis and a Farm Out to come. I'm holding on for both of us.
You say:
If I said I had written “national socialism” ….., not National Socialism would that save me re-reading my history text books?
I say:
No, it wouldn’t………………
The “pretty unsavory worldwide connotations” your choice of the words “National Socialism” causes on lesser intelligent Turnips wouldn’t be diminished by the use of lower case instead of capitals.
A pity that, even you Brutus, succumb to the nihilistic facilism of an Argumentum ad Hitlerum.
Deep inside in all of us, there is a Turnip....
Main thing is how we fight it...
Keep fighting ;-)
What have your comments to do with one of the companies the Falkland Islands have sold licenses to confiming that they have found huge amounts of gas condensate?
Keep to the topic or don't post.
If Meropress report about Prince Harry then fill your boots, but until then keep to the topic.
Isn't it great news for the Falkland Islanders. Soon they'll be richer than Argentina, and one step nearer to becoming completely indepentent from the UK, if they wish to of course.
Tell me Think, just what do you hope to achieve by your pathetic attempts to divert this thread?
FALKLANDS = RICH through good leadership and management of natural resources.
ARGENTINA = POOR due to bad corrupt leadership and mismanagement of natural resources.
Shame that.
Your encouragement to get us back on track gives me a welcome opportunity to restate my personal view that independence is not an option for the Falkland Islands no matter what anyone says about their right to self determination. The only self determination that matters in this case is that of the British People under the Crown. There is too much at stake for the future of this, the first -industrial, country to be giving up its remaining Overseas Territories voluntarily. The success of B&S et al confirm this for me at least.
@66 Thanks for not “dobbing” me (as my sons would have said when they were younger.
Yes it is wonderful news for us and may I say that FIG are doing a great job keeping the reins tight until they are absolutely sure about the new income streams. It is causing frustration in many sectors at present but I for one fully support their strategy. Keep it tight until we are 100% certain and then spend wisely with the future in mind.
As for being independent from the UK. I'm not sure how far off that is. My guess is a long way. I don't wish to be independent in the symbolic sense but I can't wait for the day when we are no longer any sort of financial burden on the UK. In fact I can't wait for the day when we can contribute something back into the UK economy.
What do other Falkland Islanders think? Mind you, I wouldn't be surprised if nobody responded. I can't remember the last time I had a chat with someone in the West Store of Chandlery about Mercopress. It seems hardly anyone takes much notice of it any more. A few months ago it was a pretty common (not huge) topic but not any more.
@52 Strange. I was born in England, the best place in the world. I don't have a sister, so that one passed me by. You really must learn to stop dragging your ass, where you keep your “brain”, along the ground! Still, I guess you faggots do what you have to do!
Article says:
”The Company estimates the recoverable volume of gas condensate to be 130 to 250 million barrels with a mid case of 190 million barrels”
I say:
Has any of you, my worthy adversaries, (by the way, Isolde, I luuuuv your steadfastness on the Assange case) been following the development of the World Gas Scene during the last three years?
The USA is literally swiming in natural gas and the prices have already fallen dramatically.
The People’s Republic of China is, acording to every serious geologist, the second most rich gas area in the world….
And guess what….. The same geologists say that Argentina ranks third.
Then comes Australia……….. and Europe.
Locally available, cheap and abundant gas deposits nearly everywhere.
Malvinas gas production on 5, 10 or 15 years is, therefore, a non starter from day one….
www.economist.com/node/21556249
thebreakthrough.org/blog/Where_the_Shale_Gas_Revolution_Came_From.pdf
And hundreds and hundreds more links I’ll leave for you to find.
Have a nice weekend
El Think.
Ah finally you stick to the subject, even though your desperation to prove your past claims of the Falklands potential being nothing, is blatantly obvious.
The Falkland Islanders will become very rich in the not too distant future, and your frustration and jealousy of that is evident in all your posts, and all your desperate attempts to distract people from the subject.
By the way, why do you Argentinians keep blabbing on about the Maldives? They're not yours, never have been and never will be.
Interesting article.
Yuppppp..................
That's one of the upsides of the “Malvinas Issue” debate.
One can always learn a few new things........
I myself didn't know about this “Shale Gas thingy's” magnitude or the high speed at which it is already running......
A revolution they call it in good ol' backwards Scandinavia......
www.dr.dk/TV/se/horisont/horisont-15#!/
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Irrespective of the how or why a war .came to be fought there, it happened.
Today, those same peoples lives have changed out of all proportion, Ask any Islander who lived through those times, if they thought had the slightest idea that they would be where they would be where they are today.
Whilst you are at it, ask them, if they had been left alone, would they still be happy to live the lives they had before.
Today, those same peoples lives have changed out of all proportion, Ask any Islander who lived through those times, if they thought had the slightest idea that they would be where they would be where they are today.
Too bad that a bankrupt country with 3 million unemployed is footing the bill...
AMlvinas=Artificial...idiots brits,nothing they can do WITHOUT Argentina support...BTW,uk will be EXCLUDED from the huge oil and gas deposits in Argentina...figure it out dummies
I did wonder about the difference between natural gas and gas condensate too.........
But I didn’t procrastinate…………
After a couple of minutes of “intense and meticulous research” some months ago, I learned most of the differences.......................
I can tell you that we are not getting rich on BOR’s Malvinas gas….....
'Not potentially nor otherwise…........
Someone has learned how to use MercoPress’s “Archive” function
My Tica friend.........
Jupp..., I did mention her a couple of times in here.
Please notice that I wrote: ”WE are not getting rich on BOR’s gas”
As you so rightlypoint above, 50% of my asseveration is 100% correct due to insuficient start capital.
The remaining 50% is, Ceteris Paribus, almost certainly correct too due to the market forces.
By the way - What is Cs?
Let's check facts shall we?
UK
Unemployment - 8.6% of the population
Credit rating - AAA+
Argentina
Unemployment - 15.6% of the population
www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=avYHzzmn4lJA&refer=latin_america
Credit rating - B-
That means, Maldives, that the UK is more financially sound than Argentina, and have a smaller percentage of the population out of work.
Not that it really matters, because the gas and oil is being drilled by private firms who are footing the bill.
These company's by the rights to drill in the Falklands EEZ, and then when they strike black gold, or gas condensate, and begin pumping it up, they pay revenue to the Falklands, and get to make huge profits for themselves. So everyone's a winner.
Don't worry, Maldives. The UK spends less than 3% of our overall defence budget defending the Falklands from Argentine aggression, and that seems more than enough to keep your 'brave' navy (who are very good at running away and hiding), your much braver airforce (the only branch of your armed forces that didn't embarrass itself or your country), and you huge unwieldy, poorly equipped army (who are also very good at running away, and were unused to facing people who can fight back) at bay.
In fact your government thinks its so unfair that they embarrassed themselves in front of the UN, and then your defence minister tells the world that if the British forces were not on the Falklands, you 'let's just give peace a chance' Argentinians would just seize them by force.
But never mind, the Falklanders will one day be so rich that they could develop their own Falkland Islands Defence Force into something that would make the Argentinian government cry about it to the UN. “It's so unfair, how can we invade and oppress them when they are better armed than us? Tell them to disarm so we can invade.”
1690: The British claimed the Falklands.
1764: The French built a settlement
1765: The British built a settlement
1815: Argentina came into existance.
There is no argument. When are you lot going to leave this tiny nation alone?
The British, and I hope any other decent nation will always support them.
Give it a rest Argentina and try to attack a big boy like Brazil or Chile instead, and just see how far you get. What is wrong with your government?
They all need a “check-up from the neck-up”.
Your summary “Let's check the facts shall we” was spot on. CFK has not only lost the battle but the war and she knows it.
As for the argument that TIT is trying to have with anyone who actually reads his posts anymore, check this out:
www.playthegame.org/news/detailed/another-year-of-violence-in-argentinean-football-5322.html
Well said. Heartily agree.
I second LEP's excellent post but the posts about you Falklanders just seems to go over their heads and it is so frustrating to read.
I could talk about the history of the Falklands from 1817-33 but again they wont listen. It's like banging your head against a brick-wall. Moreno wasn't an Argentina governor, and is actually in a Spanish book called “The Argentinian Governors that never were”, I kid you not- just try telling these brain-washed idiots about it.
Give me Chile, Brazil, Uruguay or Paraguay, or anyone else for you guys to deal with. This lot really are a bunch of morons.
I hate the fact that you lot have to deal with their attitude every day. If France (sic) was like this to us in the UK we would have finished them eons ago: far too stressful to have to deal with on a daily basis.
3,000 people being bullied daily by a nation of 40 million. They must be so proud of themselves.
Joe Bloggs:
”Spot on” you say about Turnip LEPRecon post (87)…..
I hope, for your own sake, that you are not so gullible on your own business...
The link he providesis from 2002…
Here is a “fresher one” from 2012….:
“The unemployment rate in Argentina fell to 7,2 % on the second quarter of 2012…..”
www.dinero.com/actualidad/noticias/articulo/sigue-bajando-desempleo-argentina/157784
As for Isolde…
Well what can be expected…..
She is just a young, susceptible woman…..
You provided no links about the Falklands nation, except for one about Argentinian unemployment. It's high in Argentina. It's high in Europe. It's high in the USA. We are all suffering. So what........is..........your...........point?
Anything to to say about the tiny nation of the Falklands that you wish to steal?
Ah yes Guzz, the Indec figures which ate always so reliable. It has been exposed that the Argentine government were paying people benefits, but not including them in the overall unemployment numbers.
“The government began counting people who receive state handouts as employed after it set up the largest-ever handout program, reaching about 400,000 people.”
Tut, tut Think that's manipulating figures, isn't it? But then they're politicians, and they tend to do that.
However, all these oil companies flocking to invest in the Falklands, means that the future looks very bright to them.
In YPF headquarters, the tumbleweeds tumble around the empty investment office.
Oh and Think, you attitude to Isolde proves you are a sexist prick.
1) There is no such thing as a “Tiny Nation of the Falklands”.... There is (for the time being) a British Overseas Territorry a.k.a. Colony known in the Anglosphere as the Falkland Islands.......
2) Mr. LEPRcon is an ignorant Turnip that can't even provide an unemployment link that isn't 10 years old.........
I know that someone called Rusty couldn't ever be considered an expert in anything but I found his/her illustrative article {link below ,} thought provoking. The thought it provoked was that perhaps other people wouldn't agree with you that the supply and demand economics of gas condensate are little different from those of natural gas.
www.rbnenergy.com/Neither-Fish-nor-Fowl-Condensates-Muscle-in-on-NGL-and-Crude
Just slagging off their nation achieves nothing. Those that support the destruction of the Falklanders just need to be be laughed at. They really are pathetic.
Someone one this board eons ago said they suspected the Argentinians were just a bunch of racists, his point was that if the Falklanders spoke Spanish the Spanish colonials in Argentina would have had a different attitude. I think he was right.
Argentina: Raped and murdered your way across the southern South America. “The conquest of the Western Desert” as you proudly call it.
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Very true but its all good fun.
Chuckle chuckle.
Did you think it was better for your British call sign to say that?
Still, a bunch of scum though. I am warming to the rest of the people of South America though, they actually seem human, unlike idiots like Think. Talk about an oxymoron.
That is just so bizarre.
Be yourself mate, you'll always be hated or respected anyway (or neither :) )
How weird is that!
That light amber crude is nice valuable stuff - and thus you need less millions barrels of it to make the well viable. Then after taking the oil you can then- as you will have measured it as it comes up, and you pump it back down to force more of the condensate up-pump out gas as well if its viable.
Simple reason why B&S will be back ion 2014 is to drill and determine the quantities- same as RKH did to enable them to make SeaLion a viable commercial investment.
Some desperate “nabos”(spanish for turnips for those who dont speak it) on here eh Think?
1) Rusty seems “all right to me”
www.rbnenergy.com/rusty-braziel
2) I don’t disagree with any of Rusty’s evaluations.
3) What I’m saying is that normal “supply and demand economics” will be the overriding factor against any expensive Malvinas Off-Shore, Deep Sea, End-of-the World conventional production adventure against a much cheaper worldwide On-Shore, locally available, unconventional production of humongous amounts of shale oil, gas and gas condensate…..
I can also see that Kelper Joe Bloggs is insinuating that you and I are the same person…
Maybe you could “put an end to Joe’s paranoid misery” by telling all of us some “savory island gossip” from your time at Mount Pleasant?
You know what I mean…. Nudge Nudge Wink Wink…..
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ona-RhLfRfc
PS:
Too late...... you already confessed !
But.... Couldn't you have picked anyone else but Briton?
A real Toby.
@92 Is that an Indec figure?
@95 “A nation may refer to a community of people who share a common language, culture, ethnicity, descent, or history.” That seems to include the Falkland Islanders but not argies.
@97 Please see above for a definition of “nation”. And argies would be a “nation”...how?
@Doveoverdover
You could probably make your mind up as to whether you support the Falklanders or not rather than talking over them as if they are simply just statistics and a result of british politics.
Yes, a bit like me and Mrs Palmer.
So that relationship revolves around using complicated (pretentious) prose and argument constructions and a quasi respectful adversary - bit like victorian gentlemen dualists?
Please answer Mr. Tobers questions at (111):
Mrs Palmer is your wife?
Neighbour?
Mrs Bloggs is up to speed on this?
(Do you use all of her daugthers?)
Chuckle chuckle©
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I think {not} ,.
@112 We both know (after all we are one and the same person) that Palmer, like Pamela, is a euphemism for self gratification of a sexual kind {palm of your hand}. This is not a pleasant metaphor and is certainly not one worthy of a gentleman, Victorian or Elizabethan.
Not worthy of a gentleman...... But quite typical for a Kelper of convict extraction ...................
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJkO-EKRVd0
(111) Tobers
Pretentious? Moi?
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I think {not} ,.
Grow up.
You're not fooling anyone. The old “gentlemen don't masturbate” one again. I've heard that a few times before and I don't buy it. Not that either of you are gentlemen. You're wither liars or you don't know what you're missing.
Chuckle chuckle.
Ive had a varied and interesting life but Ive never heard that one before. Perhaps its something of the armed forces, prison, or of a bygone era...?
As for supporting the Falkland Islanders, those who live there have no greater supporter than me but it isn't unthinking and unconditional support. It's enlightened self interest; another true facet of a Gentleman. I commend it to you.
Only señor Think & now señor Doveoverdover,
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm!
What to make of it all?
Stop being rude, Think.
Chuckle Chuckle
The 'Palmer' thing is entirely obvious now but my mind wasnt at that level upon reading it.
---As for supporting the Falkland Islanders, those who live there have no greater supporter than me but it isn't unthinking and unconditional support. It's enlightened self interest; another true facet of a Gentleman. I commend it to you.----
Your attitude seems to be yes to self determination BUT... Always a clause.
But... isnt it simple? The simplest and most enlightened most humanitarian standpoint is self determination. Lets not accommodate deceitful, manipulative -governments- to any degree and that doesnt just refer to Argentina's.
Its not important to me if they are Falklanders, Tibetans, East Timorese, Gibraltans, Taiwanese, Mapuche etc etc etc so i dont feel my support for the Falklanders right to self determination is -unthinking-. It is
-unconditional- in the sense that I wont change my viewpoint on self determination and support a well established peaceful populations desire to be left in peace.
Many thanks for your unconditional support through your belief in self-determination for all. It is as simple as that at the end of the day. I'm not sure what conditions Doverthink has in mind but luckily we don't need to worry about them. I wonder what conditions he has to meet to remain Argentine or British or whatever he is.
Please accept my apologies for introducing Mrs Palmer to the discussion. I was merely trying to point out that, if not the same person, Thinkoverdover and Doveroverthink are as inseperable as me and Mrs Palmer or any guy and well, Mrs Palmer. Anyway Thinkover was already well aware of the concept because he added “and her five children” to the mix.
Like others have pointed out, the reason for my doubt over Doveroverdover's true allegiance is that his posts always manage to have a double-edged barb to them and there's never a show without Punch (Think). Also the two of them are way too much of a mutual admiration (perhaps masturbation) society.
Also, I'd just like to close out by saying RIP JB. Very sad news.
Im glad to say that Im not not that sensitive or prudish ; ) I can mix it with any docker.
Doveoverdover seems to want to occupy this uber complex political position with ifs and buts and 'isnt this contradictory' statements when really its not complicated at all. He and Think do seem remarkably similar in the way they comment...
LOL! A docker! I like it. If only I could mix it with some of the dockers I know of. I did try a day of stevadoring once as a kid; bloody hard work.
Thanks for your support.
My attitude is “yes to self determination” so long as it means their staying as British citizens under the Crown which currently they do, of course. I'd extend the same right to the people of the Isle of Wight, of Yorkshire and to my home village with its population of less than 1000 council tax payers. Anything less than conservatism in this situation is rebellion and to advocate it, arguably, treason.
Regarding the Falklands constitution, I understand this to be our national position too (no constitutional changes without the approval of the population is not the same as the population can choose new constitutional arrangements independent of Her Majesty's pleasure). Without British sovereignty of the Falkland Islands, the UK would soon lose sovereignty of SG and SSI and hence the supportability of our claim to a slice of the Antarctic on which it is based would be completely undermined. Who knows what undiscovered resources rash and unconditional self determination would lose the British nation state? This is not in our national interest.
The Falkland Islands, unlike e.g. Montserrat and Bermuda for which I would allow more latitude to be ungrateful, are not populated by descendants of forced migrants. They are truly a colony of Britain in the long established, historical sense of the word. On this I agree with Think. But where he is bitter about it, I rejoice in our good fortune and in the foresight and energy of our forefathers that made it that way.
Unlike in Argentina and the USA, it is unfashionable in post-empire, post-industrial Britain to be pro patria. I chose not to follow the fashion on this one but you are entitled to if you wish; such is the freedom of being British.
This is, in my humble opinion, a well written comment!
By the way......,I'm not bitter.
I may be a bit affronted, aggravated, annoyed, bothered, dissatisfied, discontented, displeased, exasperated, irritated, motivated, provoked, riled, unsatisfied, unhappy or even upset about the Malvinas issue........
But not bitter.
Your caustic derogatory comments certainly come across as bitter. Or is that irony.
@126
---My attitude is “yes to self determination” so long AS LONG AS their staying as British citizens under the Crown---
Then its not really self determination.
---Without British sovereignty of the Falkland Islands, the UK would soon lose sovereignty of SG and SSI and hence the supportability of our claim to a slice of the Antarctic on which it is based would be completely undermined.---
How do you know that? Even India has a research base in the Antartic. Besides if there are great riches found in Antartic then its going to take more than a British military base in the Falklands to stave off the rest of the world.
---This is not in our national interest.---
Who cares about national interest?
To me the word -colony- is like using the word negro for a black person. It has connatations. Whether it was or wasnt a colony in the distant past it certainly isnt that now.
Nationalism maybe considered a celebration of ones heritage but it also by default says -my country is better than yours-.Thats how wars are started. I appreciate and accept aspects of my (learned) culture ,I can hardly deny them, but would do wherever I was born. Ultimately whats more important? - being oneself or belonging to a club that says directly or indirectly -look at us! we're better than you-?
You have 'forgotten' a principal attribute: that of probably the biggest LIAR on MercoPress.
I am happy to assist you in correcting your post.
Watched a tv program on antarctic the other day and they visited the Argentine Antarctic Base and surprise surprise it's a military base! Why? Its another example of argentine colonialism....busted
Careful; Bennies are listening.
Remember: Small Army - Smaller World.
Or a very good memory.....
-Crown Colony- really does sound like something that should have stayed in 18-19th century.
You say:
“Think
Your caustic derogatory comments certainly come across as bitter. Or is that irony.”
I say:
Have you been reading my comments to South-American proponents and apologists of despotism, tyranny and repression like Artillero601 or Sergio Vega?
Those comments certainly come from an angered, disrespected, enraged, furious, incensed, injured, insulted, irated, maddened, upset and yes; even bitter Think.
There, there.
I bet you feel better now you have got the REAL you out in the open.
Confronting your innermost struggles is supposed to work: but somehow I doubt it in your case.
Keep taking the tablets.
Wallowing in self pity....... again?
You'll go blind.
This series of comments has been super-surreal.
As a boy I finally understood the missing link: Mrs Palmer and her 5 fingers (girls to us boys). think I heard it aged 11, now at 49:, At 13-15 I just got on with it.
Is this the most bizazre and surreal thread I've ever witnessed?
How can interesting chat stoop to this level of wanking/sex.
Really. it's just surreal.
Joe: I'm sure that Think was teasing you to find out if you were a normal boy. Just don't bother going down that that road, what a twat.
Really pathetic “Think”, Tobers et al. Is this the best you can do in the “Information” war you enjoy.
Last night I was in a pub with a mate, we got chatting with an Italian at the very end of the night. She said she was studying Law but angling towards International Law. Hey, sometimes you bitch whilst others just get on with our world.
Shares from the company that ”confirmed” abundant gas condensate last Thursday dropped ~17% yesterday.
Shares from the company that ”confirmed” abundant gas condensate last Thursday dropped ~7% today.
www.advfn.com/newspaper/tom-winnifrith/8699/borders-amp-southern-bad-speculation-certainly-not-an-investment
Chuckle chuckle©
So what's your point? Even if it turned out that no oil was found do you think that would change our resolve to stay in the Falklands? I wonder whether you deadbeats would still want the islands so badly.
You ask:
“Even if it turned out that no oil was found do you think that would change our resolve to stay in the Falklands?”
My answer:
Yes, indeed.
You wonder:
”whether you Argentineans would still want the Islands so badly.
I say:
Yes, absolutely.
For as long as the current generation is alive and has any influence the resolve to support the Falklands against Argentinian colonialism would have remained unchanged. That resolve is, as we speak, being passed on to the next generation, fuelled by the peevish actions and policies of the Argentinian Government as well as by the certainty of oil funded wealth.
You are right sorry, I had this argument with and army guy who said we should consider ourselves english as it was the english who saved our arses and foot the bill, I pointed out that it was a British taskforce and Britian foots the bill.
@148
You are right, after the Menem administration a lot of people in the UK were wondering why we were still fighting advances by Argentina. Thanks to the double Kirchner support hasn't been this strong since the war. I'm not going to say that this has absolutley nothing to do with oil but for the most part for the average Joe (ie the voter) this is to do with standing up to a bully. All the Kirchners have managed to do is strengthen support for the Falklands in the UK.
When Argentina starts running out of oil, due to bad management and lack of foreign investment and people in the cold areas are suffering from lack of heating and power, will Argentina go cap in hand to the Falklands.
Will CFK finally admit she and her government were wrong to make illegal blockades on the falkland islanders who are making sound investment and development decisions than her.
Also, would CFK try to purchase oil from the Falklands.
The interesting point here is
1) They must demand cash in advance due to untrustworthy status
2) Allow flagged UK and Falkland vessels, as they would be stupid to allow Argentinian ships to dock
3) opening of airspace
That would really stick in her botox expanded craw
You say:
Oh come on, only 50% right this time.
I say:
1) One of the central points of Squatter Joe Bloggs question is: “Even if it turned out that ”NO OIL” was found ……?”
Nevertheless, one of the main arguments in your response is an imaginary: ”CERTAINTY OF OIL”.
Can you spot the incongruence?
2) Another central point of Squatter Bloggs question is: ”……do you Think that would change OUR RESOLVE to stay in the Falklands?”
Well……. I assume that , when saying “OUR RESOLVE”, Squatter Bloggs is referring to ALL the population of the Islands, including ~700 Saints, ~300 Chileans ~100 Superheads etc. etc. etc.
The above mentioned people will be the first to emigrate if and when “NO OIL” is found and the Argentinean measures to properly regulate the Malvinas fisheries, commerce and tourism begin to bear fruit.
So, all in all my answer is: YES, I THINK THAT WILL CHANGE MANY PEOPLES RESOLVE TO STAY IN MALVINAS.
Do you follow me?
PS:
Bor down 5,37% again today......
Maybe we should invest in T shirts?
Like the rest of the cowardly Malvanista Argies, you bunch of liars and malcontents do not understand even the basic character of the British people.
When confronted by bullies and wanna-be gangsters, like you and the rest of your Malvanista amigos, we don't run away and hide. We kick the shit out them!
Remember 1982? How a little Task Force managed to chuck your lot off our property.
It is called back-bone, resolve, standing up for OUR people, something that your sort has no comprehension of.
Your lot manage to stab and rob your own countrymen at every turn if it suits them.
No matter what TMBOA manages to come up with in her psychotic head it will make no difference at all to the Islanders.
No, I am wrong there, it will. What it WILL DO is to increase their resolve to withstand this nonsense until some idiot in Argentina decides to try an invasion again. I do hope and trust that the mainland will not be let off the next time.
Go and chuckle, chuckle, that off.
I agree with you that your chum completely misunderstood our exchange but I have to disagree with you about our resolve weakening. Firstly let me clarify who I meant by “our” because I didn't mean the Saints, Chileans and Superheads unless they are permanent residents / on the electoral role. Of course the people who are there temporarily for a few months or even a few years will leave if work dries up because that's the reason they're there in the first place. By “our” I mean the roughly 3,200, as figured on the electoral role, Falkland Islanders.
As for your country's attempts to rape the seas so as to cause the extinction of some species, it won't work. It will get screwed up like every other botched attempt to hurt us. It will be like your stupid economic blockade attempts aimed at stopping shipping or stopping our weekly LAN flight.
By the way there are not 100 “supeheads” but I take your point. At least Teflon has gone now so things are getting back to normal.
Chuckle chuckle
1) You are wrong, squatter Joe Bloggs..........
The 3,000 number you mention covers pretty much EVERYBODY* on them islands.
(*Excluding British troops and their families)
2) Look who’s talking about ”Raping the Seas”.........
One of those 3,000 squatters that yearly licenses the extraction of more fish from the South Atlantic than the entire Argentinean fishing fleet catches for feeding our Country of 40,000,000 people.
Besides……….. nobody is trying to ”Cause the Extinction of Any Species” we are just trying to render them un-commercial for certain squatters and pirates.
So… Be so kind and stop playing the ”Drama Queen” here at MercoPress.
Save it for Saturday Night at the Globe.
You DO make me laugh. You don't actually think anyone takes you seriously do you?
You're wrong about the 3,000-odd figure. Sure it includes some Chileans, Saints, Australians, New Zealanders, Russians, Uruguayans, Brazillians, Americans, Canadians, Spanish, South Africans, etc. but only if those people are also naturalised Falkland Islanders. Don't tell me I'm wrong you old man.
As for the Globe on a Saturday night. I doubt it. Maybe VERY briefly on a Friday night if my work goes out for a few together but that would almost always be in the Vic primarily. Later would be the Pot and the Rose. That's IF I go out which is only maybe once a month. I tend to be on the road too much normally (in the UK again right now discussing a very significant little something planned for October but enough on that for now).
Chuckle chuckle
I don't give a FIG about what you take seriously......
But........ the FIG FIGures contradict you....
www.falklands.gov.fk/documents/Census%20Report%202006.pdf
Perhaps JB should have added “in commercial quantity”. So in the spirit of compromise, let me revise my input:
For as long as the current generation of British citizens (resident in the Falkland Islands and elsewhere) is alive and has any influence their resolve to maintain the Falklands as a British Overseas Territory and defend it against Argentinian colonialism would have remained unchanged, commercial hydrocarbons or not. That resolve is, as we speak, being passed on to the next generation, fuelled by the peevish actions and policies of the Argentinian Government.
As for your subsequent post, I think we can all relax. No oil and “effective” foreign control of tourism, commerce and natural resources? Sorry, even I wouldn't put £50 quid on that at the bookies and I can obviously spare it.
Chuckle chuckle. What sort of sad, bitter old man are you to be downloading things such as FIG census reports? But anyway, since you did I had a look. Now I have to admit that I stand by what I said.
We aren't going anywhere wise one.
Chuckle chuckle.
Well.......
Argentina and an increasingly united Latin-America are resolved to make the Brits pay dearly for their “Colonial Resolve”......
Let's see what the boys in the City will say when the lost business opportunities reach the billions instead of millions......
That's it. I thought you were smart and witty but now I see you're actually as mad a hatter. Thanks for the banter over the past months, i have enjoyed it, but now you can add me to the long list of posters you've seen off.
You know, l know, the whole world knows(except for some crazy malvinistas), that the Falklands are not yours, have never been yours & never will be yours.
Haven't you squatters & receivers of stolen goods got enough land?
And you want ours too? Does your greed know no bounds?
You're chasing your own tail & getting no-where fast.
Ah well my dear little Thinkus, have a nice weekend.
lts the first day of Spring tomorrow, time to plant.
You'll be back, increasing Argentine depression, frustration and bitterness will ensure your “services” remain in demand.
You know, l know, the whole world knows(except for some crazy malvinistas), that the Falklands are not yours, have never been yours & never will be yours.
Haven't you squatters & receivers of stolen goods got enough land?
And you want ours too? Does your greed know no bounds?
You're chasing your own tail & getting no-where fast.
Ah well my dear little Thinkus, have a nice weekend.
lts the first day of Spring tomorrow, time to plant.
AHAHHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAA
you are FINISHED like uk isolde!!
Back to ltaly to visit the relations?
Why am l finished, Malvi?
l am in excellent health, l have a loving family, a good standard of living, l've got my rose garden, l can go where l want when l want.
No Malvi, the future looks bright.
The only dark clouds on the horizon are our unstable, loco neighbours to the west.
But we can handle them!
And yourself, dear Malvi, how is life with you?
Please tell all.
l've missed your:-
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
Don't think the UK is finished either.
“Argentina and an increasingly united Latin-America”
That'll be the united Latin America where Argentina argues with Uruguay over the River Plate, the one where Argentina wants to help Bolivia get land from Chile, and the one where Argentina increases trade tarriffs to its neighbours.
Sounds increasingly un-united.
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