ARA Libertad is in the high seas; great reception in Mar del Plata on 9 January
The Argentine Navy flagship ARA Libertad set sail for Mar del Plata on Wednesday four days after a UN court ordered its release from the Tema port in Accra, Ghana, following a 77 day embargo (since 2 October) due to a claim by vulture fund NML Capital.
A group of 98 Argentine sailors arrived earlier in the day in Ghana to complete the crew of 44 who remained under the orders of the captain and will oversee the training frigate’s return. In the midst of the conflict 281 sailors returned to Buenos Aires.
A spokesman of the Ghanaian port authority confirmed that the ARA Libertad was refuelled prior to its voyage. The navy vessel is expected to arrive in Mar del Plata on January 9th, President Cristina Fernández announced on Tuesday. A great reception is planned for the arrival.
On Saturday, the International Court of the Law of the Sea ordered Ghana to release Libertad, which was seized by orders of a court that accepted the claims of hedge fund NML Capital.
The twenty Justices from the Court of the Law of the Sea in Hamburg, including a former Ghana Judge, voted unanimously that war ships are immune to impounds based on the Law of the Sea and the Vienna convention.
A Ghanaian delegation including military personnel was at the port to see the frigate off. Tema Port Authority Lawrence Atumbine said that earlier on Wednesday the country’s Supreme Court had signed a resolution which invalidated the commercial court that supported the injunction.
“Now the frigate Libertad has become the symbol of sovereignty and national dignity against those who want to bully or run over Argentina”, said President Cristina Fernandez.
NML and other investment funds did not accept the restructuring of Argentine defaulted bonds in 2005 or 2010 and are demanding full payment of capital and interest. These funds or ‘vulture funds’ as Argentines call them are part of the 7% that did not accept Argentine restructuring terms, while 93% did accept the new bonds.
In the case of ARA Libertad the funds were demanding payment equivalent to 370 million dollars, capital plus interests.
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She sure knows how to play the victim, anyone got a violin?
Yes, its still a highly embarrassing shit-storm based on bad debt, but you cant critique her for playing it as a win.
Job done! Argentina embarrassed appaulingly now knows its place the hard way,
Although argentina finally secured the release of the ARA “piece of sh*t” and will understandably see this as a mighty victory played to the easily pleased peasants , as argentina past and present has had nothing to celebrate other then failure, one has to ask who actually was the biggest loser ??? :))))
ghana - no
nml - there will be other opportunities.
argentine - worldwide embarrassment shown to be vulnerable, incompetent and diplomatically wreckless, strike one navy chief, oh but they got their little boat back, which they were always going to get, meanwhile other assets stay grounded for the foreseeable future, Priceless!!!:))))
SELF-DETERMINATION.
Thank you for your new provision of words: pannage, estovers, emblements. Very important terms. I can see myself utilizing them figuratively in select ocassions.
Still inhabiting Pseuds Corner I see.
Congrats Arg on your moral victory against the hedge funds.
Seeing your mighty silhouette just chokes me up.
IOU LIBERTAD is on her way home!!!!!!!!!
Funny to watch the la campora terroristas and mullet-strokers trying to spin this one into something positive. That boat isn't going to be leaving a mullet port any time soon, and that's for sure.
Mullet-stroker's gonna stroke.
A true icon for the nation, hope airfix do a model...hopefully with rust marks down the side and overflowing wc's jajajajaj
LOL! Yeah it has become a symbol alright...
On arrival the IOU LIBBERTAD will be greeted by Grand Admiral Maximo. She is to be placed in a dry dock, where future generations can visit the victor of the Battle of the Bailiffs. A brass plaque is to be fixed to the deck, at the very spot where brave sailors repelled the Ghanaian Bailiff boarding party. the 17th of Decmeber will in future be celebrated as Argentine IOU Naval Day. The naval Ratings of the IOU LIBERTAD will have the letters BOB written against their names in their paybooks and will receive a pension for life, their sons, grandsons and great grandsons will qualify for automatic admission to renamed IOU Naval Academy. Campaign medals have been struck and the first 100,000 will be awarded when the IOU LIBERTAD docks.
Now you're giving them ideas!
Its hardly a great victory you got it out of hock eventually.
Sailors with some balls would have sailed home regardless of what the ghanians said.
@20 LOL.
It's fun though, how you use that IOU freely to bash Argentina when all of your own nations owe more money than whole South America together.
Following your logic, USA should be renamed IOUSA and the UK to the obvious IOUK.
Of course you wont see the fun in this, and neither will your pensionists.
The day the Chinese hedge funds comes to collect the debts they'll be buying at reduced prices, you will surely understand my position, and I will still defend (IO)UK against their claws
And of course the medal will feature TMBOA, AG in hand, leading 'her' sailors to 'victory'.
She has changed her tune since when she couldnt' give a damn 'it's only a ship'!
Britain NEVER had victories like this, we alsways WIN our conflicts. LOLs
interesting that you should say that Pro_RG_RG because thats about the only place that she is safe.
ATEOTD your ships are still effectively banned from inumerous countries for fear of seizure, just as are certain other assets such as your “Presidential” jet.
I wouldnt triumph this too loudly lest your own people look behind the curtain.
I am pleased to say my long-time friends there now understand and enjoy the humour. It took a while.
Very true, that's all it is intended to be humour, or as those ex servicemen amongst us would say, taking the piss! another one I recall fondly, “If you can't take it, you shouldn't have joined up!”
“Under no circumstances are you to stop anywhere on the way home.”
so they say ??
now and in the past,
HMS Edinburgh, can sink any rowing boat/destroyer / frigate , you can send against it,
so please keep your envy to yourself..lol.
Gutssy old mate! Slatzzz is an ex matlot, he fires torpedoes out of his ass!!!!!!!!!
Now that she is released, she is no more than a badly assembled, barely floating piece of wreck.
That is a major indication of Argentinas victory over the hedge funds.
The Tribunal Del Mar give to us reason for USE ANY PORT IN ANY PLACE IN THE WORLD - because is a war ship-
Same as UK, USA, same as anyone-
People of Ghana LOSS 7.6 U$ million because corrupt judges-
thruth hurts dont it,
still,
sticks and stones, sticks and stones..ha ha.
Sailed after being refuelled, money up front, no cheques!!!!!
With regard to Rosarino's comment that Ghana has lost US$ 7.6 million, I believe that NML will be footing the bill for all losses incurred over this business. If for some reason NML does not cover Ghana's losses they will NEVER get another favourable descision from any court anywhere!!!!!!!
There is no reason, Rosarino, to say that Ghana's High Court Judge Frimpong is corrupt, from the Supreme Court descision we can only deduct that he was wrong to understand that when we, the Argentine people, said that we waived our sovereign right to immunity, it didn't include our warships, that does not mean he was corrupt, it means he was WRONG!!!
Sorry about that.
The ruling of the Tribunal, was obeyed, it did not have to be so. The Ghanaian Court could have ruled that as this took place in internal and not international waters, the Tribunal had no jurisdiction. Part of me thinks they were hoping for this result.
Either way, they have demonstrated to all and sundry, that the rule of law exists in Ghana and that is not something you can say about all African countries.
Calling them corrupt is nieve and childish in the extreme,
Let us not forget that Argentina is more corrupt than Ghana: cpi.transparency.org/
Doesn't mean the debt is gone and the interest stops accruing though. Singer will be around a lot longer than CFK and the next gov't will have to deal with the mess she has left for them,
@9 Pity you can't spell.
@11 What would you know about law, hepatitis?
@13 You mean it won't ever go anywhere else!
@24 Oh, no. We can see your “little” joke. But that's because we have little difficulty in following the limited mental processes of the lower orders. In the meantime, the UK still has a AAA rating. As has the USA. Argieland has CC, yippee! Bolivia has B+. Brazil has BBB. Chile has A+. Colombia has BBB-. Ecuador has B-. Paraguay has B1. Peru has BBB. Uruguay has BB and Venezuela has B+. So, only one worthwhile country in the whole of South America. And argieland is, quite properly, right at the bottom. C, of course, stands for the generally held view of argieland's leader, although it's not polite. B you can figure out for yourself.
@38 “you insult usurping what belongs to Argentina”. What exactly “belongs” to argieland? Kiddies never understand. When you borrow shed-loads of money, you don't “own” anything you've bought with it until you've paid all your debts back. Got it now?
@40 Goody. Legitimate target!
@45 Like all the uneducated, you get things the wrong way round. It's 0.0001 generations.
Those rating lists are biased to say the least, made up by the wealthy nations to uphold the wealthy nations.
That they rate themselves AAA is not precisely astonishing.
Not because she is the Flagship of the Argentinian navy.
It makes a pleasant change to have a Flagship of a nation's navy with no mounted ordnance, only an auxillary engine, and sails!
It makes it positively pacifist! And carbon-friendly.
What a great message to the nations of the world.
By converting all her naval ships,
To tall sail ships with no military hardware on board,
All with wind sail,
A very good idea.
what a load of jingoistic rubbish,
Argentina 3 - US/UK/EU/China/Brazil/Mexico/IMF/World Bank/Iran 0
Not even the Earth united can defeat us.
And by you I mean you personally.
I guess if you don't lose you win in your world
It is all you can hope for and
it is very sad.
On a brighter note I see all Wheat exports have stopped, is that a win too?
Another storm yesterday, guess no planting Soy, any idea when they'll just give up? Probably soon
On the wheat you need 11 you may get 10 do you think they'll make up the difference with good ol' USA wheat?
I hope so
The guy is off his rocker, Nostrolldamus The TURD is writing from some looney bin having been sectioned under some mental health act. He is the sort who will be planning ways to invade Poland as I write or strutting around with one hand in his Great coat thinking of the time he invaded the Iberian Peninsula.
Why do people respond to someone so clearly demented?
Owing to climate change in the South Atlantic (See story on FI Wind Farm)
the arrival of IUO LIBERTAD at Mar Del Prat, is expected to be delayed by two weeks.
However a spokes person for the Argentine IOU Navy said, “This is ok, as El Presidentes Victory speech will just be finishing as the Pride of The Nation pulls alongside. A further weeks delay could have causes slight problems, as the arrival would interupt Senor Tinmans speech.” Neither person was available for comment, all further communication on this matter should be addressed to their Litigation Lawyers.
He's merely a nationalist, like most of his opposition here.
What N'the TURD is writing in his posting 64 is typical of someone who needs to undergo a long overdue and urgent lobotomy. From what I have been reading, this posting is no different from his others either. He is clearly psychotic. He is fcuking delusional.
With all respect, claiming that someone needs a lobotomy for posting drivel on a thread is, according to me, quite delusional aswell, but I'm no psychiatrist. For that very same reason, I couldn't either agree or disagree on your final statements.
Well, all I can see are jibs, staysails and gaffsail spanker.
But with all of its square sails reefed it can hardly be said to be displaying all its sails. It is, after all, a Square Rigger.
This is just a getting-out-of-port sail setting.
But do the argies sailing her know that? :o)
Dec 21st, 2012 - 12:10 pm
I wonder how many picture editors ar competent sailing masters????
Before she thinks of the next way to bully 3,000 Falkland Islanders.
Is this a re-run of 1982 when Argentine ships headed for port and stayed there?
Still there has been a lot of harbour space freed up by the cruise ships that don't want to endure Argentinas bullying any more, so the Libertard won't be blocking any commercial space.
The Argentine Navy at least will never try invading the Falklands if NML set up an office in Stanley.
And that's the last we'll hear of Aerolinas Argentinas suggesting flights to MPA, in case NML set up an office there too!
Another ship fleeing to Argentina (it's not risking calls at other ports)= victory for Argentina. As good as it gets for them.
Sad aint it?
any 10 year old who has watched Pirates of the Caribbean knows that cannon balls go through 'square' sails. Even picture editors were 10 once ;-)
And those of us who are avid wooden fighting ship fans know that a long 9 will put a ball through 24” of oak at over 2 miles.
I bet the argies would even run away from that sort of armament. :o)
The Manila Galleon was made from Philippine teak.
l think it was only captured once or twice.
l read somewhere that cannonballs used to bounce off its hull.
But what a prize!
The battle was reprised in fiction in Russell Crowe's 'Master and Commander', but the Live Oak was so prized that even in the early 19 century the British scoured the American coastline to win it.
www.gregpalast.com/the-globalizer-who-came-in-from-the-cold/
Argentines around the world love and supprt Chritina, herrrr!!!!!!!
If that's the case, pray tell me Oh! wise one? why the fuck are they living atound the world and not in Argentina????????????????????
You have any idea what a stupid fucking statement that is???
Oh, Christina, we really love and support you, we would come home honest, but we are not feeling to well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What we really fucking mean, is we left for a better life and take your fucking hands off our hard earned dollars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and aparently she beats the brits and get the falklands evey day she plays.
still,
nothing wrong in playing with her toys,, is there.lol.
l'd say that she plays with herself.
The stupid woman.
#87 why would CFK want a British corporate?
#88 you must be talking about your mother because CFK is still a hot woman.
#89 you never being anywhere near CFK Lol it's just the way you yourself stink, go shower pig.
FYI, My mother is still a very good looking woman, a lot better than your stupid, ugly president & that's for sure.
Would you know what to do with nuclear weapons, peanut brain?
Apart from blowing yourself up?
But then that could be a good thing, eh Alex?
MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Must be a lash-up job for Espora because I have seen the photos of the damage to the whole electrical distribution system and even the German builders acknowledged it was a 5 or 6 month job to do it correctly.
But there we have it, don’t we.
The country that ‘walks on water’ mainly because her boats sink, won’t have taken any notice of that and will be limping back because of the politics of the situation NOT the safety of the crew.
As an American sailor, ha, ha, ha, you should know these things: but you don’t do you?
Cristina is just old, and is trying to hold back the ravages of time.
I have the same problem with my waistline, but I draw the line at having the tummy-tuck to get rid of it. I have seen the pain involved, and I am an old coward - or too sensible, depending on your point of view.
two desperados trying to convince the warders they are innocent.
but the asylum is not that silly, lol.
Undoubtably, a declaration of war and conforming to the cecession of war is not the way Argentina does things.
Therefore the UK has a moral position that war reparations can be achieved by restraining and retaining any or all military assets that come her way.
It is not just the bond-holders that are in need of recompense,
and Argentina's 'military' assets on the high seas or in a suitable harbour should be 'fair game' towards payback for the expense incurred in 1982. My guess is that around £6billion (present value) should cover it.
Did the UK ask for and get reparations? If not, why not?
I see to remember a few aircraft and APCs’ as well as the crap PW (mainly FN SLR) but the Unimogs were never paid for by the argies and I think Mercedes had them back from the MoD.
Doubt if the stuff was worth five bob (that will confuse the argies). :o)
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