Cristina at the helm for ARA Libertad grand welcome party in Mar del Plata
The frigate ARA Libertad is already in Argentine waters and is scheduled to arrive Wednesday to the port of Mar del Plata, escorted by dozens of yachts and other vessels, to a huge reception ceremony headed by President Cristina Fernandez, ministers and top officials.
The Argentine navy flagship spent 78 days impounded in Tema, Ghana on request from a New York court ruling which benefited hedge funds claiming payment of Argentine sovereign bonds. The controversy was finally sorted out at the Hamburg based UN Law of the Sea court that ordered the immediate release of the Argentine Navy training vessel.
According to the Argentine ministry of defence the ARA Libertad sailing at 7.5 knots entered jurisdictional waters early dawn Tuesday.
Monday evening she was welcomed and escorted by the Uruguayan navy frigate “Uruguay” while sailing the River Plate. Uruguay’s Minister of Defence Eleuterio Fernandez Huidobro has anticipated his attendance to the reception ceremony in Mar del Plata.
Meanwhile the port is being prepared for the massive ceremony including dredging (fears of sand silting) and maintenance and restoration work of two statues one of them the patron saint of Mar del Plata fishermen.
Just in case ARA Libertad will sail in at high tide Wednesday evening, nothing can spoil the welcome party.
The reception however will have a clear political colour, the vindication of Argentine sovereignty which is under constant threat from hedge funds (or vulture funds).
When the retention of ARA Libertad in Ghana, Foreign Minister Hector Timerman revealed Argentina faced over twenty similar attempted impoundments and President Cristina Fernandez who later this week flies to the Far East on a trade mission will be doing so in a rented aircraft fearing Tango 01 might suffer an injunction.
To further emphasize the political intention of the ceremony, the whole event is organized directly by the Executive, in great secrecy and with no active participation of the Argentine Navy.
A militant group of supporters had already displayed in the port area a huge poster, and distributed flyers, showing Cristina Fernandez in an epic posture at the helm of a vessel in the midst of a storm with her left arm indicating the course and a base line which reads: “We the wind/ Motherland the vessel and in capital letters, CRISTINA CAPTAIN”.
President Cristina Fernandez is expected to board the frigate when she docks, where she will receive full honours by Captain Lucio Pablo Salonio and the crew. The 69 naval cadets that were on their final year training course and had to be flown out of Ghana when the impoundment is not clear if they will be formed at the jetty or will be boarding ARA Libertad previously to comply with the full picture.
Fire works and an artistic show open to the public will follow.
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Seig Heil!!
I think the Argentine Navy are too embarrassed to be there.
@3 OP
Too true, she refuses to accept responsibility for anything, but is willing to grasp desperately at any faux victory.
It'd be sad if it wasn't so ridiculously funny.
“We take fresh day old cod and fry it in the best batter!”
In the finest naval traditions. I don't even know what you are celebrating. It's a joke.
by Christ you should ave seen us
The figurehead....
Well you can look up the rest of that ribald Rugby rhyme for yourselves. If I quoted it all, proarg will get his desire of banning me from this site!
The rest of the worlds foreign offices (or equivalent) advise their Naval vessels not to visit or be wary in certain places because of terrorist threats, or 'enemy' vessels.
In Argentina they advise their navy not to visit places because the bailiffs and debt collectors will be waiting for them. And they couldn't even get THAT right. LOL
They have also had to teach them new drills, here's the latest;
RED! RED! RED! BAILIFF ATTACK RED!
TTT and co... How badly are you cringing with embarrassment? Are you completely in contortions or have you opted to cover your eyes and ears, and walk around saying “la la la I'm not listening”???
This is what your government thinks of you; it thinks that you will all be impressed with cheap nationalism and personality cults. And what is the basis for such celebrations? You got your trinkets back from the pawn shop on a technicality. Woo Hooooo, get the party balloons out and ignore the bailiffs knocking on every other door of the house.
I really do need a favour though, am trying to wean myself off Mercopress but the entertainment just continually pulls me back in. Please make it stop, I am addicted to this circus :)
Argentina is becoming a personality cult. My question:
Is this the path you wish your country to go down?
bullsh*t nazi propaganda, if you look closer you can see a swatstika tattoo on her hand
www.urgente24.com/209362-vuelve-la-fragata-y-se-arma-el-primer-cacerolazo-del-ano-a-cristina
Unserious question to Britons....... Look at the picture on the link below. I have travelled around a fair bit and I have repeatedly seen such images all over the world. I did see this in the United Kingdom quite recently (on your most popular newspaper).
Is Britain becoming a personality cult?
My question:
Is this the path you wish your country to go down?
i41.tinypic.com/2eeztye.jpg
SELF-DETERMINATION!
The bailiffs are still hammering at the door and your have a sovereignty party??
To be honest that old sailing ship should be limping into port under darkness-this woman as NO shame at all
axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_64333.shtml
Won't happen. Mar Del Plata is filled with tourists that just want to get away from it all. No protests.
27 Think (#)
Haaa! I loved it. I did not vote for Obama, but your comparison places Cameron where he belongs.
31 redpoll (#)
Let me help you out of your ignorance. My understanding is that when the Frigate Libertad approaches the Argentine mainland, it usually enters Uruguayan waters. By tradition, a Uruguayan frigate comes out to salute her and escort her to Argentine waters. The same happens whenthe Uruguayan Navy training ship Capitan Miranda enters Argentine waters.
28 Pirate Love (#)
“SELF-DETERMINATION!”
Sorry mate. but in the Malvinas case, this does not apply.
Thanks for the update. I did not say tha the Cpt. Miranda escorted the Libertad, nor that the Cpt. Miranda is active or not. I am just commenting on what I know is tradition with both Navies. Read what I said.
Pop those corks!
- Argentina has a navy flagship made of wood?
- Is it for training historical reenactments? Sea scouts or what?
- A large celebration is taking place because said museum piece escaped the bailiffs?
Nice!
I have seen less self glorification by the Sultan of Brunei.
i never get bored of saying that against argentine oriented misinformation, i fully understand you have to fight your corner with rhetoric and lies, in an attempt to convince those who know no better, the democratic transparent referendum in the falklands will go ahead and show the world exactly what they desire, and thats all that matters,“On record”, so any attack whichever form is an attack on democracy itself,
oh by the way the “un charter”, argentina is a signatory, and they should no better, the UK recognizes their rights, because we are Internationally lawful.
Falklands march 2013 , tune in it will be educational and slightly upsetting for hispanic genocidal colonists with expanist ambitions fuelled by their lack of human rights which narrows it down to argentina.
SELF-DETERMINATION, SELF DETERMINATION, so good i now say it twice, mate! :)
Pirate crew get restless with pirate captain
Pirate captain made to walk the plank
Pirate captain does but gets stuck in sludge of Mar del Plata harbour
Dredgers say it wasnt our fault
It was the dirty kelpers wot filled the harbour up with mud
#34 I am actually enjoying watching the english community waste 12 hrs a day pesting Argentine's, it shows that the tail will wag the dog as often as needed.
#42 self determination is good for UK only because the Mexicans in USA and the Romanians in UK get deported. Why not give british illegal aliens illegaly occupying Islas malvinas Argentina rights to return to UK or let them apply for Argentine citizenship as Canada does to natives, simple pari passu for everyone or for No One.
#43 takes one to know one, I take your word for it. (NOT)
axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_64333.shtml
Or to put it more simply so ProRG can understand:
In te Falklands case, self-determination IS applying.
All she needs now is that picture put up everywhere in BsAs etc and she can rank with the rest of the mad loony despot dictatorships history has to offer.
After all, only the best dictatorships have their image shown in every prominent place, The (former) USSR, 1930's Germany, North Korea etc...
very lacklustre by the Malvos... really must bite to be faced with that image when you woke up.
teehee
“These folk have been sabre rattling so much their rusty sabre blade has fallen off, all ships are being returned to port, with a wild looking pirate at the helm apparently.
Pop those corks!”
The only saber rattling that we have heard is from Mr. Cameron in the past year as published by the eloquent British Tabloid The Sun.
You bet the Argies will be popping those corks tomorrow.
39 Bryzi (#)
”Argentina has a navy flagship made of wood?
No, it is built of naval steel, imported from my country the USA, held together by steel rivets, the first of which was installed by President Juan Peron on the inauguration day of the Rio Santiago Shipyard in 1953. It is the only sailing ship of its kind built in Latin America. Peru will soon have its own locally built sailing ship for its Navy cadets to be named La Union. It is unfortunate that the US Navy does not have a sail training ship. We do have the historic USS Constitution which is anchored in Boston Harbor as a Museum. She is very old It is only occasionally sailed into the harbor for re-enactments of it’s kicking of Royal Navy Bootie in the War of 1812. It was a great victory for our young nation. The US Coast Guard has a training ship, the USCG Eagle, which is a German built WWII trophy. Her condition limits her to US coastal cities and occasionally the Caribbean.
I recall reading that in 1998, during the Menem Détente years (should have taken him up on his offer), she sailed to the UK. A RN cadet was invited to sail on her and was given command of the ship for 4 hours as she sailed and moored into harbor. The cadet’s eyes were filled with tears of emotion throughout his experience.
I had the chance to visit her numerous times while I was in Buenos Aires. It is a great ship and has a great permanent professional crew for her upkeep.
es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buque_escuela
- Is it for training historical reenactments?
It is only one of its functions if needed. Its purpose is that of a training sh
If you wish to believe that the falkland population are “illegal aliens” then thats your misinformed perogative, and still does not change the truth.
Myself, see i prefer to live in the real world where i see a large legitimate community of prosperous people continually striving just for a peaceful life for nearly 2 centurys for them and their families futures, something hypocrital despots would wish to strip from them in the name of oil, as they sadly do not see the inhabitants as human but as an obstacle to resource grab, quite appauling indeed!
Just as well really yours and argentinas constant negative views will have completely NO beneficial effect on the outcome of The Falklands future, and from that i take the greatest of pleasure :)
by the way did i mention SELF-DETERMINATION?
just incase i didnt this ones just for you SELF-DETERMINATION!!
31 red poll
That's good that you mention Admiral Guillermo Brown
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lowCuD8OYE
”We are not interested in the nationality of those who dwell on Argentine soil. The Argentina just want to recover their territory colonizing population. Did Cameron cares in the London suburbs is filling of Pakistanis (that breed like rabbits), Indian or Indonesian?”
Nice racist commentary.
Interesting that you see nothing wrong with that. :-)
Pigs
It's hilarious that you are trying to link a newspaper article, by a tabloid, who being a part of the 'free' press, with this narcassistic advertisment.
The newspaper, being 'free' from government interference, prints what they like. David Cameron DIDN'T pay for it, or commission it in any way.
Your beloved President has used Argentine taxpayers money to pay for this act of hubris, in the hopes of temporarily diverting attention away from the mess she made of the economy, and the fact that all Argentine assets are restricted to Argentina because they may get impounded by the people you owe lots of money to.
It really is pathetic, just like your attempt to divert the thread.
You must be feeling really humilated right now.
Only you stupid malvinistas say that Self-Determination doesn't apply to us.
But then, who are you to decide?
On top of that, we really don't care what you think.
To us, you are non-people, whose hopes, thoughts & aspirations, like this mythical place, malvinas, do not exist.
We will prosper, while you go down the gurglehole.
Happy travelling.......................losers.
“We are not interested in the nationality of those who dwell on Argentine soil.”
If you ask an Argentinian where they are from they will always tell you Italian or Spanish. It is never Argentinian. Never.
They never want to admit they are South Americans.
Plus they are THE MOST PREJUDICED people I have ever been around, they hate anyone who isn't white. I've seen Peruvians, Paraguayans and Bolivians harassed by the Police and pushed off trains, buses, not served in restaurants or not let into malls, theaters, clubs.
It is really awful.
Knew it reminded me of something.
@35 Sorry “mate” but according to the Secretary General of the United Nations, it does!
@45 What “right” do self-determination do you have? You are implanted. And probably illegal!
@49 Really? Only see and hear what you want to, of course.
@53 You really must try to get up to date. The Falkland Islanders HAVE self-determination. For themselves, their lives, their homes, their land, their territory and their nation. And no pip-squeak latino will EVER be able to do anything about it. You may be old enough to remember 1982, although I doubt it. So let me clarify. In 1982, a bunch of self-important latinos learned the result of upsetting a real nation. The latinos got their wrists slapped. That's all. Just a little slap. We like to give one chance. There won't be another!
@54 Who will be crying when you have to be taught your place?
“self determination is good for UK only because the Mexicans in USA and the Romanians in UK get deported”
Now where do you get that Romanians get deported from The UK?? Do you realise you are talking bollocks
This page explains how you can live and work in the UK if you are a Bulgarian or Romanian national.
As a national of a country in the European Economic Area (EEA), you do not need our permission under the Immigration Rules to enter or remain in the UK.
Now if you break the law in any of the 27 European Union Countrys you can on a judges decision be deported back to your country of origin.
May I suggest you get your uneducated facts right before you comment.
Piece of S...
“In the poster they forgot the credit to the hair sylists Medusa and Gorgon”
LOL, their salon, “Curl Up and Dye”
Why can't I tune in to the live broadcast, surely such an historic event is being beamed live by satellite all around the world, like the moon landing!
I'm gonna be pissed off if I have to wait for the DVD to come out!
I can understand the need to rebrand to hide the embarrassment attached to the current name.
Incidentally she wont be impressed with the Jonny Depp Pirates of the Caribbean matted locks shes been portrayed with in that 'glorious leader' pose Im sure.
How about, ARA Wilkins Micawber, seems to be appropriate.
Let's hope the families of the sailors get a look in. The militants being bused in are earmarked for the prime seats.
Why bother?
Seriously, why bother to ever reply to him? He's totally deluded..and I mean that in all seriousness... totally barking woof-woof dippy blonde-as-blonde-can-be, picnic shot of a hamper, lalaland, bonkers.
ignore the fool
(or 'pity the fool' if you're more of a Mr T fan)
- Is it for training historical reenactments?
It is only one of its functions if needed. Its purpose is that of a training ship used to expose 4th year navy cadets from Argentina, and those of invited nations, to the challenges of the sea as experienced by the early navigators. It serves as a sort of initiation that cadets look forward to after 4 years of arduous work and study. Its other role is that of floating Ambassador. It is a piece of sovereign territory as any naval or war ship is for any nation. It is a floating Embassy and, if needed, is equipped to provide all of the services, ceremonies, and obligations as any Argentine Embassy. That is why Argentina has designated it as it’s flag ship. What better and more honorable role for a ship of this type exalting peace and friendship between the nations of the world. .
This is true of all sailing training ships in Navy inventories.
Sea scouts or what?
No, not in the contents that you are putting it. When anchored, it is frequently visited by students at all levels, sea cadets and scouts, local and foreign dignitaries.
- A large celebration is taking place because said museum piece escaped the bailiffs? ”
No, a celebration is taking place because the ship was liberated by the UN court under International Law signaling a defeat against of the plaintiff (NML capital) for an attempt to bypass International Law through its corrupt and criminal associates in Ghana. It is a victory for all seafaring nations.
A contrast to what would have happened to a British ship. The British leadership and population would have opted for an attack against an innocent people instead of seeking UN help.
Let us not forget the bailiffs are still knocking at Argentinas slimy door for which Argentina needs to be lucky all the time while the creditors need to be lucky just once
p.s Anyone heard of the ARA Libertad being used during the “dirty war”? (sure i've read somewhere it was).
Its always a revolution with you Peronistas/Kirchneristas. Always.
People cant just get on with their lives. The system is always meddling, interfering and stoking up the people. Everyone is kept anxious, the system is unstable and its just how the 'government' likes it. Argentines are either dependent on the government for survival or are punished for trying to take responsibility for looking after themselves.
If you didnt vote for the system and disagree with its policies you are treated with utter disdain, an enemy of the state and not simply and correctly as an Argentine with every moral and legal right to hold a different political point of view.
Its a shame that a country with it all (it must be in the global top 10% for most space and resources per head of population) still operates like a backward frontier town after many decades of a system that clearly hasnt worked in unifying, stabilising and developing the country.
I mean how much time does it need to stabilize and establish itself? Germany and Japan started from almost zero after the war and within 30 yrs had transformed themselves into the most wealthy, stable, egalitarian democratic countries in their regions and with far less opportunity than Argentina has. There are many other countries too that have managed to prosper in spite of lack of abundance of natural resources, and pressure of influential external forces. Argentina has no excuse.
Its sad and a huge waste for Argentina living with a failed, outdated early-mid 20c European derived mishmash of fascist and communist political systems. Instead of looking forward Argentina continues looking backwards. It really is in a mess right now and history will confirm this.
Can you imagine this happening in any legitimate country?
www.clarin.com/politica/Moreno-megaoperativo-militantes-Mar-Plata_0_844115773.html
These thugs are shameless
And then there's the jet that has been leased (from a Brit Company) to stop Tango One being seized.
You can run but you can't hide: www.atfa.org/
No suprises there then! she is busing in the Brown shirts for a party rally.
If you take a couple of seconds to look at the ”Image” in question, you will be able to see that, down on the left corner it says...: ”Peronismo Militante”
”Peronismo Militante” is a very small group of young Ultra- Peronists …..
They have drawn that image themselves and used it in their political proselytism…..
Subsequently, the image was reproduced in all opposition papers to make the Turnips believe what they “Think” they believe….
Exactly as the Sun does with you Brits…..
(85) redpoll
You say:
”Dont think it was used in the dirty war against thier own citizens”
I say:
Yes......, She was.
The military policy at the time was to involve everybody, as much as possible, in the ”Defence of the Western and Christian Values”….
And the Fragata Libertad was not excepted from that policy.
good post
argentine goverment reminds me of some 1970 eastern europe regime!
How ridiculous.
Argentina needs to find a Pinochet to clean up that place.
From the FT.
Argentine naval frigate the Libertad has been welcomed home with all the pomp and ceremony of a warship returning victorious from battle.
Sums this crazy bitch up totally.
www.ft.com/cms/s/0/a6dfae3a-5abb-11e2-b60e-00144feab49a.html#axzz2HZ06jHmi
It's time to call it day
They've burst your pretty balloon
And taken the moon away.
It's time to wind up
The masquerade
Just make your mind up
The piper must be paid.
#94 Well pointed out for the turnips Think =) But when you say the group is “ultra-Peronist”, they must also be (deducing from the poster!) Kirchnerists, so I would imagine left Peronists and would have little sympathy with right Peronist rivals of Cristina like Scioli? Or am I wrong, are they to the right of Cristina's support base? If they are a small group I suppose it doesn't matter much, its just I think the whole idea of “ultr-Peronism” you mentioned seems strange when Peronism is such a multifarious catch-all party, and Cristina's alignment with Chavez and the continental left surely now trumps party loyalty to some of the right wing elements?
Let me try to be more precise....:
”Peronismo Militante” is a very small group of young, left-wing, nationalist Ultra- Peronists …..
In contraposition to Europe, most of the “Nationalistic Groupings” in South-America are in fact Left-Wing Regionalist/ Integrationist Movements with clear social-justice profiles and next to none racist tendencies .....
Sounds a bit complicated, I know......
But this is South-America :-)
Recently your President has often crititicised and tried to bully the judicaciary into doing what she wants.
I would cite for instance the Clarin case and the arbitrary decree evicting by Presidential Decree the SRA (Rural Society of Argentina) from thier legally held premises at Palermo on 30 days notice as well as cancelling the traditional judicial recess in January. I dont think the legal eagles are too happy to see thier constitutional powers being eroded. A sign of this is the reopening of the bribery case over the dredging issue of Matin Garcia channel in involving the binacional Comision Administradora de Rio de La Plata (CARP)which had been “archivado” by the judge. (In other words swept under the carpet)
The tias separation of powers goes back to Roman law andis the basis of any democracy. Interfere with that and you are well on the way to totalitarianism when free elections go by the board
Elections? Isnt that the way the inhabitants of Chubut, Mendoza and the Falkland Islands chosse the legislators who they wish to represent themselves?
”#101 Thats cool, don't worry I'm all for South American nationalism =) I'm just more attracted to Kirchnerist left transversalism than “ultra-Peronism”, especially if it meant loyalty to all the Peronists including conservative rouges like Scioli =)”
BK - ironically, it sounds like Democracy has become totally lost in all that double-speak and obfuscation.
I'm sure that the thinking Argentinians have a very different view of CFK's administration.
“El cantinero de la Fragata rompe el silencio: “El acto de Cristina fue bochornoso”
The bartender of the Frigate breaks the silence: ”The act of Cristina was embarrassing”
Couldn't put it any better myself.
And we all know that bartenders are like priests - the person everyone bares their soul to - they know all the Truths!!!
:-)
#105 I wonder how much they paid him to say that?!
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