Tuesday, January 8th 2013 - 20:12 UTC

Cristina at the helm for ARA Libertad grand welcome party in Mar del Plata

The frigate ARA Libertad is already in Argentine waters and is scheduled to arrive Wednesday to the port of Mar del Plata, escorted by dozens of yachts and other vessels, to a huge reception ceremony headed by President Cristina Fernandez, ministers and top officials.

The Argentine president in epic posture leading through the storm

The Argentine navy flagship spent 78 days impounded in Tema, Ghana on request from a New York court ruling which benefited hedge funds claiming payment of Argentine sovereign bonds. The controversy was finally sorted out at the Hamburg based UN Law of the Sea court that ordered the immediate release of the Argentine Navy training vessel.

According to the Argentine ministry of defence the ARA Libertad sailing at 7.5 knots entered jurisdictional waters early dawn Tuesday.

Monday evening she was welcomed and escorted by the Uruguayan navy frigate “Uruguay” while sailing the River Plate. Uruguay’s Minister of Defence Eleuterio Fernandez Huidobro has anticipated his attendance to the reception ceremony in Mar del Plata.

Meanwhile the port is being prepared for the massive ceremony including dredging (fears of sand silting) and maintenance and restoration work of two statues one of them the patron saint of Mar del Plata fishermen.

Just in case ARA Libertad will sail in at high tide Wednesday evening, nothing can spoil the welcome party.

The reception however will have a clear political colour, the vindication of Argentine sovereignty which is under constant threat from hedge funds (or vulture funds).

When the retention of ARA Libertad in Ghana, Foreign Minister Hector Timerman revealed Argentina faced over twenty similar attempted impoundments and President Cristina Fernandez who later this week flies to the Far East on a trade mission will be doing so in a rented aircraft fearing Tango 01 might suffer an injunction.

To further emphasize the political intention of the ceremony, the whole event is organized directly by the Executive, in great secrecy and with no active participation of the Argentine Navy.

A militant group of supporters had already displayed in the port area a huge poster, and distributed flyers, showing Cristina Fernandez in an epic posture at the helm of a vessel in the midst of a storm with her left arm indicating the course and a base line which reads: “We the wind/ Motherland the vessel and in capital letters, CRISTINA CAPTAIN”.

President Cristina Fernandez is expected to board the frigate when she docks, where she will receive full honours by Captain Lucio Pablo Salonio and the crew. The 69 naval cadets that were on their final year training course and had to be flown out of Ghana when the impoundment is not clear if they will be formed at the jetty or will be boarding ARA Libertad previously to comply with the full picture.

Fire works and an artistic show open to the public will follow.

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1 Monkeymagic (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 08:19 pm Report abuse
Look at Cristina...adopting the pose of here ancestors at Nuremburg.

Seig Heil!!
2 GFace (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 08:21 pm Report abuse
Mommy Look! A Nazi Ghost Pirate Lady! EEEEEEK!
3 Optimus_Princeps (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 08:24 pm Report abuse
Dragging her feet doing nothing, letting someone else get it done for her, then take the credit. Very Cristina!
4 KFC de Pollo (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 08:32 pm Report abuse
pure propaganda, Cristina is a fool!
5 falklandlad (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 08:33 pm Report abuse
the stuff of comic books...
6 LEPRecon (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 08:33 pm Report abuse
So the Argentine Navy aren't involved, only the 'faithful' indoctrinated neo- nazi's!

I think the Argentine Navy are too embarrassed to be there.

@3 OP

Too true, she refuses to accept responsibility for anything, but is willing to grasp desperately at any faux victory.

It'd be sad if it wasn't so ridiculously funny.
7 reality check (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 08:49 pm Report abuse
Google translate playing up again, the caption actually reads.
“We take fresh day old cod and fry it in the best batter!”
8 BritishLion (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 09:02 pm Report abuse
Well, once the Royal Yacht Libertad has tied to the wall for a long awaited refit into a musium ship old Christina will be catching her 'British' registered presidential jet just in case her own aircraft will get impounded like the ill fated Libertad. This is so comic, Hollywood could make a fantastic comedy movie with this kind of story.
9 MrFlagpole (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 09:07 pm Report abuse
Yes with pride we celebrate the victorious return of the IOU Libertad.

In the finest naval traditions. I don't even know what you are celebrating. It's a joke.
10 reality check (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 09:10 pm Report abuse
Totally agree, make a cracking animated movie. IOU Libertad being towed all the way home by a big fat green dragon called Pete! and as it arrives Christina floats down under an umbrella carrying a carpet bag (full of medals) whilst the crew dance the horn pipe, dressed as chimney sweeps.
11 redpoll (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 09:25 pm Report abuse
Twas on the good ship Venus,
by Christ you should ave seen us
The figurehead....
Well you can look up the rest of that ribald Rugby rhyme for yourselves. If I quoted it all, proarg will get his desire of banning me from this site!
12 LEPRecon (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 09:38 pm Report abuse
I actually find it amusing.

The rest of the worlds foreign offices (or equivalent) advise their Naval vessels not to visit or be wary in certain places because of terrorist threats, or 'enemy' vessels.

In Argentina they advise their navy not to visit places because the bailiffs and debt collectors will be waiting for them. And they couldn't even get THAT right. LOL
13 ElaineB (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 09:40 pm Report abuse
Why is she dressed up like a pirate?
14 GFace (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 09:40 pm Report abuse
@12, “The life of a Repoman, is ALWAYS intense.”
15 reality check (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 09:50 pm Report abuse
@12 Lep

They have also had to teach them new drills, here's the latest;

16 Anbar (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 09:52 pm Report abuse
funniest thing all year... (ok, so that isnt that long, but even so)
17 Orbit (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 09:52 pm Report abuse
This is just too hilarious.

TTT and co... How badly are you cringing with embarrassment? Are you completely in contortions or have you opted to cover your eyes and ears, and walk around saying “la la la I'm not listening”???

This is what your government thinks of you; it thinks that you will all be impressed with cheap nationalism and personality cults. And what is the basis for such celebrations? You got your trinkets back from the pawn shop on a technicality. Woo Hooooo, get the party balloons out and ignore the bailiffs knocking on every other door of the house.

I really do need a favour though, am trying to wean myself off Mercopress but the entertainment just continually pulls me back in. Please make it stop, I am addicted to this circus :)
18 reality check (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 10:01 pm Report abuse
They are lucky, the SBS (Special Bailiff Service) or the SAS (Seizing Assets Service) have not been set on them yet! they do not want tomess with those boys.
19 surfer (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 10:08 pm Report abuse
Freakin funny if that thing gets stuck in the mud.
20 Anbar (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 10:10 pm Report abuse
its freakin funny if it doesnt
21 Beef (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 10:17 pm Report abuse
Serious Question to Argies. Look at that picture. I travel around many absolute monarchies and blatantly non-democratic countries and rarely do I have ever see such images. I did see such things in Turkmenistan, to some degree in China (but mainly in museums).

Argentina is becoming a personality cult. My question:

Is this the path you wish your country to go down?
22 CJvR (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 10:29 pm Report abuse
Seriously, have she hired the same PR agency that took the infamous picture of the Pinochet junta?
23 Pirate Love (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 10:29 pm Report abuse
striking similarities in her pose to that of adam touching gods finger in michaelangelos artwork, all should bow for we are in the presence of greatness in the goddess Crustina as she is clearly gods chosen pilot to lead argentina to the promise land where 72 virgins are awaiting for each man, oh wait thats the other fruitcake, either way its a miracle i tell you, and all argentines should pay homage to their goddess by changing their dollars into pesos, and never challenge her ruling!

bullsh*t nazi propaganda, if you look closer you can see a swatstika tattoo on her hand
24 Terence Hill (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 10:30 pm Report abuse
They shouldn't need to dredge as they been very adept at digging holes for themselves.
25 Pirate Love (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 10:35 pm Report abuse
:))))) eye eye jimlad,

26 Lou Spoo (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 10:39 pm Report abuse
LOL, pull my finger!
27 Think (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 10:40 pm Report abuse
(21) Beef

Unserious question to Britons....... Look at the picture on the link below. I have travelled around a fair bit and I have repeatedly seen such images all over the world. I did see this in the United Kingdom quite recently (on your most popular newspaper).

Is Britain becoming a personality cult?
My question:
Is this the path you wish your country to go down?
28 Pirate Love (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 10:46 pm Report abuse
ahem.....another distraction attempt from the topic

29 andy65 (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 10:52 pm Report abuse
Sorry who the F... can take this woman seriously anymore.
The bailiffs are still hammering at the door and your have a sovereignty party??
To be honest that old sailing ship should be limping into port under darkness-this woman as NO shame at all
30 Pirat-Hunter (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 10:57 pm Report abuse
#21 we Argentines love CFK she is the best president Argentina had in 40 years, if it was simple to find a none corrupt leader in Argentina I am sure you can name a few,lol prove yourself right and name a few Argentine leaders who you think can be better presidents for Argentina. But let me predict first that you can't even name one, we can't rust a royal corporations to run Islas malvinas, we have our own self determination to take care of and CFK is making sure our rights are being taken care of. It would be great if Argentina could tax import by 50% as the brits do in cayman island.
31 redpoll (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 11:00 pm Report abuse
OMG what has the once proud Argentine Navy come to? Admiral Guillermo Brown must be turning in his grave. No seaworthy ships at all so much so that madam has to board an Uruguayan antiquated frigate to escort her to Mar del Plata
32 reality check (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 11:03 pm Report abuse
No mention of the word British, in the reference to the rented aircraft, I see!
33 andy65 (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 11:08 pm Report abuse
@Pirat-Hunter, the only rights The Botox Queen is looking after are her own and her OBESE son Maximo just like all your past Presidents since you stopped throwing each other from aircraft they have all been BENT
34 jeffski (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 11:08 pm Report abuse
OMFG.....it's like something out of 1930's Nazi Germany. Really Argentine you should be deeply ashamed of this woman and her twisted regime. They are the laughing stock of the whole world, how can any one take them seriously after this cheap stunt. Eeeemmmmbbbbbaaarrrrrraaaaasssssiiiinnnggggg.
35 ProRG_American (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 11:14 pm Report abuse
25 Pirate Love (#)
Won't happen. Mar Del Plata is filled with tourists that just want to get away from it all. No protests.

27 Think (#)
Haaa! I loved it. I did not vote for Obama, but your comparison places Cameron where he belongs.

31 redpoll (#)
Let me help you out of your ignorance. My understanding is that when the Frigate Libertad approaches the Argentine mainland, it usually enters Uruguayan waters. By tradition, a Uruguayan frigate comes out to salute her and escort her to Argentine waters. The same happens whenthe Uruguayan Navy training ship Capitan Miranda enters Argentine waters.

28 Pirate Love (#)

Sorry mate. but in the Malvinas case, this does not apply.
36 redpoll (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 11:29 pm Report abuse
The Miranda has been out of service for many months in dock as she has reached her sell by date unfortunately
37 ProRG_American (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 11:44 pm Report abuse
36 redpoll (#)
Thanks for the update. I did not say tha the Cpt. Miranda escorted the Libertad, nor that the Cpt. Miranda is active or not. I am just commenting on what I know is tradition with both Navies. Read what I said.
38 surfer (#) Jan 08th, 2013 - 11:47 pm Report abuse
These folk have been sabre rattling so much their rusty sabre blade has fallen off, all ships are being returned to port, with a wild looking pirate at the helm apparently.

Pop those corks!
39 Bryzi (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 12:13 am Report abuse
So let me get this straight...

- Argentina has a navy flagship made of wood?
- Is it for training historical reenactments? Sea scouts or what?
- A large celebration is taking place because said museum piece escaped the bailiffs?

40 Britninja (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 12:15 am Report abuse
And so the Scooby Doo gang finally corner the vile Ghost Pirate Witch and try to pull her rubbery mask off to expose her true identity... Oops that's her actual face.
41 Beef (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 12:27 am Report abuse
Think - the difference is that the rag that is The Sun is a worthless tabloid that switches it's political affiliation depending on which direction the wind blows. The image of Captain Cristina is in effect commisioned by herself.

I have seen less self glorification by the Sultan of Brunei.
42 Pirate Love (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 12:36 am Report abuse
@35 “Self-Determination” applies to ALL peoples and discriminates nobody.....

i never get bored of saying that against argentine oriented misinformation, i fully understand you have to fight your corner with rhetoric and lies, in an attempt to convince those who know no better, the democratic transparent referendum in the falklands will go ahead and show the world exactly what they desire, and thats all that matters,“On record”, so any attack whichever form is an attack on democracy itself,
oh by the way the “un charter”, argentina is a signatory, and they should no better, the UK recognizes their rights, because we are Internationally lawful.

Falklands march 2013 , tune in it will be educational and slightly upsetting for hispanic genocidal colonists with expanist ambitions fuelled by their lack of human rights which narrows it down to argentina.

SELF-DETERMINATION, SELF DETERMINATION, so good i now say it twice, mate! :)
43 briton (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 12:46 am Report abuse
typicle pirate, at the helm of her crumbling dream.lol.
44 redpoll (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 01:01 am Report abuse
Pirat ship wot stay in port no win treasure
Pirate crew get restless with pirate captain
Pirate captain made to walk the plank
Pirate captain does but gets stuck in sludge of Mar del Plata harbour
Dredgers say it wasnt our fault
It was the dirty kelpers wot filled the harbour up with mud
45 Pirat-Hunter (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 01:24 am Report abuse
#33 as an Argentine I must defend CFK since she is not giving up Argentina's territorial integrity and defending my right to self determination. If you don't like her move to UK lol if they give you a visa to visit. Good luck you might have better luck traveling illegally.
#34 I am actually enjoying watching the english community waste 12 hrs a day pesting Argentine's, it shows that the tail will wag the dog as often as needed.
#42 self determination is good for UK only because the Mexicans in USA and the Romanians in UK get deported. Why not give british illegal aliens illegaly occupying Islas malvinas Argentina rights to return to UK or let them apply for Argentine citizenship as Canada does to natives, simple pari passu for everyone or for No One.
#43 takes one to know one, I take your word for it. (NOT)
46 Bongo (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 01:31 am Report abuse

Or to put it more simply so ProRG can understand:

In te Falklands case, self-determination IS applying.
47 Raven (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 01:33 am Report abuse
How low can she go. :D

All she needs now is that picture put up everywhere in BsAs etc and she can rank with the rest of the mad loony despot dictatorships history has to offer.
After all, only the best dictatorships have their image shown in every prominent place, The (former) USSR, 1930's Germany, North Korea etc...
48 Anbar (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 01:35 am Report abuse

very lacklustre by the Malvos... really must bite to be faced with that image when you woke up.

49 ProRG_American (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 01:38 am Report abuse
38 surfer (#)
“These folk have been sabre rattling so much their rusty sabre blade has fallen off, all ships are being returned to port, with a wild looking pirate at the helm apparently.
Pop those corks!”
The only saber rattling that we have heard is from Mr. Cameron in the past year as published by the eloquent British Tabloid The Sun.
You bet the Argies will be popping those corks tomorrow.
39 Bryzi (#)
”Argentina has a navy flagship made of wood?
No, it is built of naval steel, imported from my country the USA, held together by steel rivets, the first of which was installed by President Juan Peron on the inauguration day of the Rio Santiago Shipyard in 1953. It is the only sailing ship of its kind built in Latin America. Peru will soon have its own locally built sailing ship for its Navy cadets to be named La Union. It is unfortunate that the US Navy does not have a sail training ship. We do have the historic USS Constitution which is anchored in Boston Harbor as a Museum. She is very old It is only occasionally sailed into the harbor for re-enactments of it’s kicking of Royal Navy Bootie in the War of 1812. It was a great victory for our young nation. The US Coast Guard has a training ship, the USCG Eagle, which is a German built WWII trophy. Her condition limits her to US coastal cities and occasionally the Caribbean.
I recall reading that in 1998, during the Menem Détente years (should have taken him up on his offer), she sailed to the UK. A RN cadet was invited to sail on her and was given command of the ship for 4 hours as she sailed and moored into harbor. The cadet’s eyes were filled with tears of emotion throughout his experience.
I had the chance to visit her numerous times while I was in Buenos Aires. It is a great ship and has a great permanent professional crew for her upkeep.
- Is it for training historical reenactments?
It is only one of its functions if needed. Its purpose is that of a training sh
50 commonsparrow (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 02:14 am Report abuse
Not a flattering picture. Looks a provoker of war.
51 Troy Tempest (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 02:41 am Report abuse
Wagnerian imagery
52 Pirate Love (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 03:14 am Report abuse
@45 and thats the beauty of Self-determination, the Falklanders alone can only choose what they want to do,not you or I,argentina or UK have a say.
If you wish to believe that the falkland population are “illegal aliens” then thats your misinformed perogative, and still does not change the truth.
Myself, see i prefer to live in the real world where i see a large legitimate community of prosperous people continually striving just for a peaceful life for nearly 2 centurys for them and their families futures, something hypocrital despots would wish to strip from them in the name of oil, as they sadly do not see the inhabitants as human but as an obstacle to resource grab, quite appauling indeed!

Just as well really yours and argentinas constant negative views will have completely NO beneficial effect on the outcome of The Falklands future, and from that i take the greatest of pleasure :)

by the way did i mention SELF-DETERMINATION?
just incase i didnt this ones just for you SELF-DETERMINATION!!
53 XAVIERV (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 04:29 am Report abuse
Self-determination? What's that? And they will say after 10 and March 11? They are British? We know that already! They want to remain British? Know that too! So for all this farce? They are British and want to remain British, that for me is perfect! They have my support to remain what they are, because nobody else wants them. We are not interested in the nationality of those who dwell on Argentine soil. The Argentina just want to recover their territory colonizing population. Did Cameron cares in the London suburbs is filling of Pakistanis (that breed like rabbits), Indian or Indonesian? And that in 100 years the population of non-Christian to Christian England overcome? But by that time will be all British, ie the prime minister and maybe the king or queen is the time to be Muslim. Surely Kelpers living within 100 years Weigh down four times a day and pray to Mecca looking .. That gives laughter!
54 Marcos Alejandro (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 05:12 am Report abuse
Should we invite MercoP. and their British crybabies to the party?

31 red poll
That's good that you mention Admiral Guillermo Brown

55 Troy Tempest (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 05:24 am Report abuse
@053 Xavierv

”We are not interested in the nationality of those who dwell on Argentine soil. The Argentina just want to recover their territory colonizing population. Did Cameron cares in the London suburbs is filling of Pakistanis (that breed like rabbits), Indian or Indonesian?”

Nice racist commentary.

Interesting that you see nothing wrong with that. :-)

56 surfer (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 07:29 am Report abuse
This crazy woman is either an abysmally bad president or an excellent foreign agent, you decide.
57 Iron Man (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 07:37 am Report abuse
I hate the way the Argentines are militarising the region, with their celebration of war ships. I'm thinking of writing to the UN about it.
58 Santa Fe (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 08:05 am Report abuse
jajajaja Love the nazi pirate christina best post ever
59 LEPRecon (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 08:37 am Report abuse
@27 Think

It's hilarious that you are trying to link a newspaper article, by a tabloid, who being a part of the 'free' press, with this narcassistic advertisment.

The newspaper, being 'free' from government interference, prints what they like. David Cameron DIDN'T pay for it, or commission it in any way.

Your beloved President has used Argentine taxpayers money to pay for this act of hubris, in the hopes of temporarily diverting attention away from the mess she made of the economy, and the fact that all Argentine assets are restricted to Argentina because they may get impounded by the people you owe lots of money to.

It really is pathetic, just like your attempt to divert the thread.

You must be feeling really humilated right now.
60 Boovis (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 09:02 am Report abuse
Ironic image as, for CFK; the Falklands represents a great white whale.
61 lsolde (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 09:59 am Report abuse
@35 ProRG-whatever,
Only you stupid malvinistas say that Self-Determination doesn't apply to us.
But then, who are you to decide?
On top of that, we really don't care what you think.
To us, you are non-people, whose hopes, thoughts & aspirations, like this mythical place, malvinas, do not exist.
We will prosper, while you go down the gurglehole.
Happy travelling.......................losers.
62 yankeeboy (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 12:46 pm Report abuse
53. For anyone who has ever spent any time in Argentina this statement is boldfaced lie!
“We are not interested in the nationality of those who dwell on Argentine soil.”
If you ask an Argentinian where they are from they will always tell you Italian or Spanish. It is never Argentinian. Never.
They never want to admit they are South Americans.
Plus they are THE MOST PREJUDICED people I have ever been around, they hate anyone who isn't white. I've seen Peruvians, Paraguayans and Bolivians harassed by the Police and pushed off trains, buses, not served in restaurants or not let into malls, theaters, clubs.
It is really awful.
63 JustinKuntz (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 01:11 pm Report abuse

Knew it reminded me of something.
64 Conqueror (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 01:28 pm Report abuse
@30 I think I can help you in your search for a suitable leader. Better than CFK. There's a guy in Villa 31. I don't recall his name, but he's quite easy to find. He spends his days wandering round the streets shovelling up shit so that he can dry it out and use it as fuel. He would make an ideal leader. Fully “in touch” with the country, its population and its future!
@35 Sorry “mate” but according to the Secretary General of the United Nations, it does!
@45 What “right” do self-determination do you have? You are implanted. And probably illegal!
@49 Really? Only see and hear what you want to, of course.
@53 You really must try to get up to date. The Falkland Islanders HAVE self-determination. For themselves, their lives, their homes, their land, their territory and their nation. And no pip-squeak latino will EVER be able to do anything about it. You may be old enough to remember 1982, although I doubt it. So let me clarify. In 1982, a bunch of self-important latinos learned the result of upsetting a real nation. The latinos got their wrists slapped. That's all. Just a little slap. We like to give one chance. There won't be another!
@54 Who will be crying when you have to be taught your place?
65 andy65 (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 02:29 pm Report abuse
@ Pirat-Hunter,let me correct your stupid ignorance
“self determination is good for UK only because the Mexicans in USA and the Romanians in UK get deported”
Now where do you get that Romanians get deported from The UK?? Do you realise you are talking bollocks

This page explains how you can live and work in the UK if you are a Bulgarian or Romanian national.

As a national of a country in the European Economic Area (EEA), you do not need our permission under the Immigration Rules to enter or remain in the UK.

Now if you break the law in any of the 27 European Union Countrys you can on a judges decision be deported back to your country of origin.
May I suggest you get your uneducated facts right before you comment.
Piece of S...
66 redpoll (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 03:00 pm Report abuse
In the poster they forgot the credit to the hair sylists Medusa and Gorgon
67 Troy Tempest (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 03:22 pm Report abuse
@66 redpoll

“In the poster they forgot the credit to the hair sylists Medusa and Gorgon”

LOL, their salon, “Curl Up and Dye”
68 DirtyCrissyKirch (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 03:24 pm Report abuse
I bet shes's grey (maybe even bald) in reality
69 Tobers (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 03:31 pm Report abuse
What a mess Argentina is in. Really sad to see this happening. Huge waste of time and money.
70 reality check (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 03:40 pm Report abuse
Party started yet?
Why can't I tune in to the live broadcast, surely such an historic event is being beamed live by satellite all around the world, like the moon landing!
I'm gonna be pissed off if I have to wait for the DVD to come out!
71 ElaineB (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 03:47 pm Report abuse
There is a rumour that CFKC is to rename the ship tomorrow - this is considered back luck by sailors - and twitter has been alive with suggestions for the new name.

I can understand the need to rebrand to hide the embarrassment attached to the current name.
72 DirtyCrissyKirch (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 03:48 pm Report abuse
Everything must go to plan and on time, MY BRITISH JET is waiting to fly me to see HUGO before my far east jaunt
73 Tobers (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 03:50 pm Report abuse
When I see an image of her I always see beyond the hair, makeup and designer morbid attire.

Incidentally she wont be impressed with the Jonny Depp Pirates of the Caribbean matted locks shes been portrayed with in that 'glorious leader' pose Im sure.
74 reality check (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 03:52 pm Report abuse
How about, ARA Wilkins Micawber, seems to be appropriate.
75 ElaineB (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 03:54 pm Report abuse
Re 71. That should have been today, not tomorrow.

Let's hope the families of the sailors get a look in. The militants being bused in are earmarked for the prime seats.
76 redpoll (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 03:55 pm Report abuse
No. She has sent Timmerman instead. Whats in the cargo hold? A coffin, crutches? Or just love and kisses?
77 DirtyCrissyKirch (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 03:55 pm Report abuse
@Tobers (#) I am sure it's not a pretty site first thing in the morning
78 cornishair (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 03:58 pm Report abuse
49 pro_arg. I don't remember the US winning the War of 1812?.
79 Anbar (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 04:56 pm Report abuse
“”“”“@ Pirat-Hunter,let me correct your stupid ignorance”“””

Why bother?

Seriously, why bother to ever reply to him? He's totally deluded..and I mean that in all seriousness... totally barking woof-woof dippy blonde-as-blonde-can-be, picnic shot of a hamper, lalaland, bonkers.

ignore the fool

(or 'pity the fool' if you're more of a Mr T fan)
80 ProRG_American (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 05:02 pm Report abuse
I continue to answer from above.

- Is it for training historical reenactments?
It is only one of its functions if needed. Its purpose is that of a training ship used to expose 4th year navy cadets from Argentina, and those of invited nations, to the challenges of the sea as experienced by the early navigators. It serves as a sort of initiation that cadets look forward to after 4 years of arduous work and study. Its other role is that of floating Ambassador. It is a piece of sovereign territory as any naval or war ship is for any nation. It is a floating Embassy and, if needed, is equipped to provide all of the services, ceremonies, and obligations as any Argentine Embassy. That is why Argentina has designated it as it’s flag ship. What better and more honorable role for a ship of this type exalting peace and friendship between the nations of the world. .
This is true of all sailing training ships in Navy inventories.
Sea scouts or what?
No, not in the contents that you are putting it. When anchored, it is frequently visited by students at all levels, sea cadets and scouts, local and foreign dignitaries.
- A large celebration is taking place because said museum piece escaped the bailiffs? ”
No, a celebration is taking place because the ship was liberated by the UN court under International Law signaling a defeat against of the plaintiff (NML capital) for an attempt to bypass International Law through its corrupt and criminal associates in Ghana. It is a victory for all seafaring nations.
A contrast to what would have happened to a British ship. The British leadership and population would have opted for an attack against an innocent people instead of seeking UN help.
81 redpoll (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 05:27 pm Report abuse
Anybody got a link to hear Cristinas wofflings in Mar del Plaa
82 cornishair (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 05:36 pm Report abuse
80 ProRG. Dude you said the US won the War of 1812?, i say you wrong...
83 andy65 (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 05:37 pm Report abuse
@ProRG_American, Another poor child talking bollocks do you never get tired?? it's an old sailing rust bucket you are talking about under similar circumstances any other sane person would have sailed this heap of shit back under the cover of darkness with embarrassment.
Let us not forget the bailiffs are still knocking at Argentinas slimy door for which Argentina needs to be lucky all the time while the creditors need to be lucky just once
84 cornishair (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 05:44 pm Report abuse
83 andy65. Don't take it out on the tall-ship!, looks in prefectly good nick. Take it on the scary pirate lady/thing on the bow.

p.s Anyone heard of the ARA Libertad being used during the “dirty war”? (sure i've read somewhere it was).
85 redpoll (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 06:09 pm Report abuse
Yesit is a beaut ship Dont think it was used in the dirty war against thier own cityzens
86 Tobers (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 07:01 pm Report abuse
@80 ProRG_American

Its always a revolution with you Peronistas/Kirchneristas. Always.

People cant just get on with their lives. The system is always meddling, interfering and stoking up the people. Everyone is kept anxious, the system is unstable and its just how the 'government' likes it. Argentines are either dependent on the government for survival or are punished for trying to take responsibility for looking after themselves.

If you didnt vote for the system and disagree with its policies you are treated with utter disdain, an enemy of the state and not simply and correctly as an Argentine with every moral and legal right to hold a different political point of view.

Its a shame that a country with it all (it must be in the global top 10% for most space and resources per head of population) still operates like a backward frontier town after many decades of a system that clearly hasnt worked in unifying, stabilising and developing the country.

I mean how much time does it need to stabilize and establish itself? Germany and Japan started from almost zero after the war and within 30 yrs had transformed themselves into the most wealthy, stable, egalitarian democratic countries in their regions and with far less opportunity than Argentina has. There are many other countries too that have managed to prosper in spite of lack of abundance of natural resources, and pressure of influential external forces. Argentina has no excuse.

Its sad and a huge waste for Argentina living with a failed, outdated early-mid 20c European derived mishmash of fascist and communist political systems. Instead of looking forward Argentina continues looking backwards. It really is in a mess right now and history will confirm this.
87 yankeeboy (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 07:14 pm Report abuse
Moreno hired buses to get the militant K mobs to MDP for this party!
Can you imagine this happening in any legitimate country?

These thugs are shameless
88 Brit Bob (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 07:36 pm Report abuse
Cristina is a hero like Evita - oh I forgot that Evita Peron personally helped 5,000 Nazi War Criminals settle in Argentina after WW2.

And then there's the jet that has been leased (from a Brit Company) to stop Tango One being seized.

You can run but you can't hide: www.atfa.org/
89 reality check (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 07:55 pm Report abuse
No suprises there then! she is busing in the Brown shirts for a party rally.
90 andy65 (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 07:59 pm Report abuse
Are we taking bets on a long winded Anti British Rant?? LOL
91 reality check (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 08:05 pm Report abuse
Yep, then a dash across town to catch her flight straight Chavs bedside, couretsy of a British plane. You really could not make it up.
92 andy65 (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 08:39 pm Report abuse
Are we taking bets on a long winded Anti British Rant?? LOL
93 reality check (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 09:13 pm Report abuse
Nah, she'll save that for the vultures, whip her hand picked followers up in to a frenzy, then POW! hit them with a double whammy, Las Malvinas. Something along the lines of this victory is only the beginning and under my leadership we will regain our beloved lands. Shit, so predictable, any brit on here could write the speech for her.
94 Think (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 09:53 pm Report abuse
(41) Beef
If you take a couple of seconds to look at the ”Image” in question, you will be able to see that, down on the left corner it says...: ”Peronismo Militante”
”Peronismo Militante” is a very small group of young Ultra- Peronists …..
They have drawn that image themselves and used it in their political proselytism…..
Subsequently, the image was reproduced in all opposition papers to make the Turnips believe what they “Think” they believe….
Exactly as the Sun does with you Brits…..

(85) redpoll
You say:
”Dont think it was used in the dirty war against thier own citizens”
I say:
Yes......, She was.
The military policy at the time was to involve everybody, as much as possible, in the ”Defence of the Western and Christian Values”….
And the Fragata Libertad was not excepted from that policy.
95 scarfo (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 10:00 pm Report abuse

good post

argentine goverment reminds me of some 1970 eastern europe regime!
96 redpoll (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 10:07 pm Report abuse
Thanks Think for your correction. Not trying to score points off you but can you give me chapter and verse on that? Such a beautiful ship If what you say is true even the figurehead on her bows must be hanging her head in shame
97 yankeeboy (#) Jan 09th, 2013 - 10:30 pm Report abuse
”Peronismo Militante” is a very small group of young Ultra- Peronists

How ridiculous.

Argentina needs to find a Pinochet to clean up that place.
98 jeffski (#) Jan 10th, 2013 - 09:32 am Report abuse
The FT report is bang on.

From the FT.
Argentine naval frigate the Libertad has been welcomed home with all the pomp and ceremony of a warship returning victorious from battle.

Sums this crazy bitch up totally.

99 reality check (#) Jan 11th, 2013 - 08:39 am Report abuse
The party's over
It's time to call it day
They've burst your pretty balloon
And taken the moon away.

It's time to wind up
The masquerade
Just make your mind up
The piper must be paid.
100 British_Kirchnerist (#) Jan 11th, 2013 - 10:06 am Report abuse
What a brilliant poster, its really got the haters in a lather =) My only, small, critical comment on it would be that an artistic representation of Cristina can never be quite as beautiful as the real lady =) But there's nothing embarrasing or dictatorial about it, all it means is that some people in the country appreciate the stance and successes of their President; if only there was anything to appreciate about our own leaders in the UK!

#94 Well pointed out for the turnips Think =) But when you say the group is “ultra-Peronist”, they must also be (deducing from the poster!) Kirchnerists, so I would imagine left Peronists and would have little sympathy with right Peronist rivals of Cristina like Scioli? Or am I wrong, are they to the right of Cristina's support base? If they are a small group I suppose it doesn't matter much, its just I think the whole idea of “ultr-Peronism” you mentioned seems strange when Peronism is such a multifarious catch-all party, and Cristina's alignment with Chavez and the continental left surely now trumps party loyalty to some of the right wing elements?
101 Think (#) Jan 11th, 2013 - 10:34 pm Report abuse
(100) British_Kirchnerist

Let me try to be more precise....:

”Peronismo Militante” is a very small group of young, left-wing, nationalist Ultra- Peronists …..

In contraposition to Europe, most of the “Nationalistic Groupings” in South-America are in fact Left-Wing Regionalist/ Integrationist Movements with clear social-justice profiles and next to none racist tendencies .....

Sounds a bit complicated, I know......
But this is South-America :-)
102 redpoll (#) Jan 12th, 2013 - 01:23 am Report abuse
As you say abit complicated Think but all South American countries claim to be democracies and as such adhere to the separation of powers between the executive, the legislature and the judiaciary branches of government. The elected legislature makes the laws, the executive executes them and the judicairy interpret them and decide if they are within the national Constitution or not.
Recently your President has often crititicised and tried to bully the judicaciary into doing what she wants.
I would cite for instance the Clarin case and the arbitrary decree evicting by Presidential Decree the SRA (Rural Society of Argentina) from thier legally held premises at Palermo on 30 days notice as well as cancelling the traditional judicial recess in January. I dont think the legal eagles are too happy to see thier constitutional powers being eroded. A sign of this is the reopening of the bribery case over the dredging issue of Matin Garcia channel in involving the binacional Comision Administradora de Rio de La Plata (CARP)which had been “archivado” by the judge. (In other words swept under the carpet)
The tias separation of powers goes back to Roman law andis the basis of any democracy. Interfere with that and you are well on the way to totalitarianism when free elections go by the board
Elections? Isnt that the way the inhabitants of Chubut, Mendoza and the Falkland Islands chosse the legislators who they wish to represent themselves?
103 British_Kirchnerist (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 01:00 am Report abuse
#101 Thats cool, don't worry I'm all for South American nationalism =) I'm just more attracted to Kirchnerist left transversalism than “ultra-Peronism”, especially if it meant loyalty to all the Peronists including conservative rouges like Scioli =)
104 Troy Tempest (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 01:30 am Report abuse
@103 BK

”#101 Thats cool, don't worry I'm all for South American nationalism =) I'm just more attracted to Kirchnerist left transversalism than “ultra-Peronism”, especially if it meant loyalty to all the Peronists including conservative rouges like Scioli =)”

BK - ironically, it sounds like Democracy has become totally lost in all that double-speak and obfuscation.

I'm sure that the thinking Argentinians have a very different view of CFK's administration.
105 ChrisR (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 05:33 pm Report abuse
I just love this comment in Clarin today:

“El cantinero de la Fragata rompe el silencio: “El acto de Cristina fue bochornoso”

The bartender of the Frigate breaks the silence: ”The act of Cristina was embarrassing”

Couldn't put it any better myself.
106 Troy Tempest (#) Jan 13th, 2013 - 11:54 pm Report abuse

And we all know that bartenders are like priests - the person everyone bares their soul to - they know all the Truths!!!

107 British_Kirchnerist (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 03:26 pm Report abuse
#104 Democracy isn't out the window at all, that doesn't mean I can't campaign for my own preference. If Scioli wins fair and square, fine. But I think it would be better for the people if Cristina, Timmerman, Alicia Castro or another candidate of the left won. And from the last vote, it seems a majority agree =)

#105 I wonder how much they paid him to say that?!
108 redpoll (#) Jan 14th, 2013 - 06:33 pm Report abuse
Och ye kilty Galloway BK. How much did he get paid? Probably a lot less than you do for spouting your excressences on these threads. The poor bugger was probably hoyed out of the navy anyway for expressing an opinion. Typical Rg thinking though. How much did he get paid??? So much for the freedom of expression!!!

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